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He got a product for free in exchange for giving us info about it. It’s pretty obvious he didn’t purchase this and review out of the goodness of his heart. No shame there. Many reviewers do review purchased items and also critique items they’ve been sent free of charge. Silver Cymbal, Fentertainment, and Stumpy Nubs are perfect examples. Give ‘em a look.
Thogh the product is good, i think it is an expensive option considering we have power outages only 1-2 times an year. A normal generator has a better ROI
@@AXXXXA no, if I was able to get one, a battery generator along side a inverter generator would allow more time to hold you over during a worst case disaster power outtage, like Harvey. My question is can you use a traditional gas generator to charge the Ecoflow Delta Pro 3. Would it be safe to use a traditional "westinghouse generator with a typical THD of around 23%? If so then I would be on the market for this tech. I would definitely have to plan my power usage using an interlock and a delta pro 3.
Yeah for whole house, unless you can get a good TOU rate or have solar generation, the ROI period is going to be VERY long. I have a smaller battery I just use for my fridge, a few lights, and a fan during outages. My small load requirements made a battery cheaper than a traditional generator. But my outages are rarely longer than 12 hours and I haven't seen more than 36hrs.
@eatttherich4653 yup, high up front cost, then almost free to run with an infinite renewable source. When power is out for, you its probably the ame for the store. Cant pump gas without power
Not sure why a lot of people are obsessed with powering the entire house during disasters. All you really need are the essentials. To me, powering the entire house is not essential.
Some people want or live off grid, others want the whole house operational with no interruption during blackouts or storms. There are multiple reasons why someone would want this unit. Not sure why you care so much? Just get your essentials and let people have the option to go all out if they want.
I frequently see media reports about how the price of lithium ion batteries is approaching $100 / kWh. And then I see the actual products that sell them for around $1000 / kWh. I get that there are other components to the system and also some markup, but the pricing of such batteries remains outrageous. I'll continue to wait until prices come down.
Prices won't come down because at the same time the government is increasing tariffs on import solar and lithium. Anything bigger than 3k inverter and 5kwh batteries, you are better off diy. Anything at 1kwh battery and 2kw inverter, the portable is better priced.
@@Wegetsignal Sure, you can get some quality LiFEPO4 batteries from China which utilize Grade A cells. Unfortunately there is also a lot of junk coming out of China which uses Grade B cells.
It’s much more than just the cost of batteries. You need to factor in the battery management systems onboard along with all the components to piece it together. Also, let’s not forget profit. Companies are in business to make profit, not save the world. Markup is necessary and it’s how companies have enough money to stay afloat, pay employees, and still have enough left over for R&D for further improvement of the product - improvements mentioned: higher capacity, reduced noise, better cable management, external ICE generator for constant power. All this before the government (aside from inflation). We are still early adopters with this technology so if you’re waiting for a significant price drop it won’t come until this technology is commodity - which always requires many early adopters willing to spend.
I wish all these things used standardized replaceable modules for when inevitability the batteries are worn-out. Ability to self repair and easily swap components should be the norm.
Power outages aren’t frequent in my area. When they do occur, they don’t last that long, so I couldn’t justify the cost. My ideal system for an outage would be to run a generator during the day, and then use a power station at night. The big advantage to power stations is that they can be kept indoors. No worries about carbon monoxide, nor do have to worry about them being stolen. Solar panels would be a nice addition, but clouds and trees can restrict the power output. It all comes down to your location.
For my money the Generac is a better buy if you might be gone for more than a few hours. My house is not situated to benefit from solar and if the power goes out for a day or two, which is has several times, I have no way to charge the EcoFlow if I’m away on vacation or out of town for work. The EcoFlow is nice and quiet but has a limited run time without somebody home to tend to it. If I have to use a stand-by generator why not get a natural gas generator, if you have natural gas, and not worry about a power outage during a winter storm while away from home?
I posted this on the EcoFlow Facebook site and was told by a few that I can burn up my equipment and risk a house fire. I would like your option. I have an 11,000W whole house Solar PV system on my home. My particular system has 2 (2000W - AC) receptacles connected to my PV inverters that can be used in a power outage as long as the sun is out. (I even produce power on a cloudy day). This power is converted to AC by my inverters. I also have a Delta 2 + battery and a manual transfer switch. In the event of a power outage, while my D2 is connected to my transfer switch I like to run another extension cord from my solar to my D2 during the day that would feed AC power in to. I know any AC input would pass through my D2 and consumed first before any battery power was used.
I have a 22kw propane genset. I just bought battery backup w/solar panel. The issue is long term power outage due to national emergency and shortages of fossil fuels. The battery backup would be the only way I could generate heat in the house with an outdoor wood boiler during the winter if out of propane. It will also run my well pump for fresh water. Because it is portable, I can also take it RV'ing to provide power that way also.
I live in Phoenix, lots of sun. Solar panels are great, but unless you have a way to save extra power, you never really see a major reduction in your electric bill, justifying the initial expense. you need something to save the extra power for when you have higher usage instead of it getting pushed back into the network. This kind of setup would get it done.
I don’t have solar or any experience, but one solar homeowner told me in California when power is pushed back into the network, the meter reverses and that’s how he gets credits. ??
@@tonymanero5544lol no no that’s not how it works. When you get solar you are still connected to the grid and you still use the grid power. Your solar panels create energy that does get put back into the grid and is tracked by its own meter so the power company sees how much energy your panels produced, then credit you which basically off sets your electric bill. Keep in mind, if the panels start to fail and don’t produce the same energy you use from the grid you will receive a bill from the power company.
@tonymanero5544 they have a way of measuring how much electricity gets pushed back into the system. However, they don't pay you on a one for one basis. If it costs you a dollar, they're paying two cents for it. It's far more cost-effective to hold on to that power until you need it.
@@LordHolley Totally depends on where you are, In Florida, we have 1 to 1 net metering so any extra energy you get a credit for at the same rate they charge you. If you don't have 1 to 1 net metering and depending on your cost of electricity, that's where something like a Tesla Powerwall makes sense and a lot of people in California are installing them now that they no longer have 1 to 1 net metering. Their cost of electricity is very high as well so its payback period is pretty decent. In FL, it's tough to justify the cost given we have 1 to 1 net metering and electricity rates that are not too high.
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Just paid 2k euros for the delta pro. I can understand the benefits for US market on that 230V, but here in EU, I don't think there will be that much reason to pay double of what I've paid for 400W extra battery, 400W more of inverter power, and be more silent. About the noise of the original delta pro I already have a plan to replace the fans to noctua redux fans. Only thing for us in Europe that I honestly really liked on the new DP3 are the new extra batteries. Their size is half the size of the original delta pro extra batteries, and they stack on top of the new DP3. What I REALLY would like to see in an upgraded version of the DP are 2 built-in XT150 connectors to power their Wave 2, and also to enable charging using their alternator charger without the need of using an adapter.
The generator integration is a really great idea/system. I ordered the DP3 - It's my first ecoflow purchase. Really excited to have a 240v all in one system.
Nice to know he found a sucker … his fake ass review is. Really a sales pitch. But he did not bother to mention it in the video. Closet he came was 00:58. Saying “sent over”. When should have said in all honesty this was a free unit eco flow gave me to create this add for them
@@KE5ZZO Sounds like a whole lot of envy on your part. If he said something that was flat out false, then maybe you'd have a point, otherwise it just sounds like envy.
The problem with the portable battery industry, and especially EcoFlow, is that all the products are TOO EXPENSIVE!! The delta pro 3 needs to be $1,000 *at most* and all the other products scaled down in price similarly.
That price would be way below cost. Not to say that there isn’t a hefty profit margin on these types of things (after all, how could Anker have had their recent 40% off prime day sales if they didn’t have at least that much margin) but the batteries in the delta 3 pro alone are worth around that much, not to mention the cost of the split-phase inverters or charge controllers. If the counter-argument is “then have less battery capacity to hit the lower price point” then… they do make those products too.
Good improvements in version 3 of this product. For me the generator leaves a lot to be desired. Minimally Id like to see dual fuel, tri-fuel would be even better. I'd like to be able to attach it (or leave it permanently attached) to a large propane tank that I can keep full or to a natuaral gas line so as not to worry about searching for gasoline during a blackout (or multi day blackout when fuel gets scarce).
It seems all these EcoFlow videos come out on the same day. TH-camrs touting how fantastic these are. Of course they are fantastic when you are given $5000+ worth of equipment. The real problem I have with these is the short life span. Just look how EcoFlow has changed in the past few years. The chumps that bought previous models are probably really kicking themselves. 12 months later and there's a new model with more power. Meanwhile, if I purchase a 8000W generator today, that generator will still be cranking out 8000W 20 years from now if maintained properly. The technology in these battery inverters is still too new to be investing $5000-$8000 in a backup system.
@@randallsmith3073such a scenario is incredibly unlikely compared to local or regional outages measured in days or weeks, caused by weather events typically. Ideally you want it all, battery backed by solar to keep low to medium power output long-term, and a propane generator for higher power output short to medium term.
Both are viable solutions. Batteries allow for continuous usage though, solar panels can charge batteries, which means it can go indefinitely. generators are good because they are cheap and work better if you just have a couple outages a year
@@robertchristianson1187 Thank you for your comment. As I live in hurricane alley of south east NC, I have had to endure power outages a dozen of times over the last 30 years. One time the power was out for over 2 weeks. In my opinion, & this is going to sound overkill, but I would also have a 500 gallon propane tank just in case, since their are no natural gas lines any where close to my house. I have also found most propane gas dealers are usually able to start delivery's within 5 days or so. And you never know what will happen the next time we get hit by a CAT4 or 5 hurricane.
@@robertchristianson1187 I mean natural gas generators exist... Propane generators exist. Heck they make tri fuel and quad fuel generators, they burn propane, natural gas, diesel, and gasoline. Im not arguing for batteries, but for people with medical equipment or people who work from home or mission critical computers/servers are in the house, batteries make more sense because they are paired with a automatic transfer switch and allows seamless transition.
@@abrahammc2125 Until 4 years ago I was living off grid in a 2000 sq ft home for 15 years. We had solar,wind, and a propane 12 kw generator with agm batteries. If I were considering an off grid or emergency set up I would have batteries and at least a gen set. A few solar panels for back up just in case.
The new EcoFlow Delta Pro 3 is a Boss but again, it's a never ending hunt for bigger, better, more power. You're always chasing the ultimate and can never catch it, while it costs you a ton of money in the chase.
Exactly... you dump $6000 into this only to have Delto Pro 4 come out next spring with twice the power. Meanwhile, your unit has depreciated to diddly.
Thanks for the video, do you know if the old delta pro w/ extra battery would charge the delta pro 3 while its connected to the house inlet generator plug during a power outage?
I use a combination of Ecoflow and 11k gennie on LPG. I have dual inlets through a 3 pole double throw switch. I run the generator during the day and batteries at night. That way, I don't t have to worry about noise letting people know what I have. Here, recently, we were down 2 days due to storms. I ran gen 10 hrs during the day and after dinner went quiet with batteries. If this was a grid down situation, opsec, especially at night is essential. I bought my DPUs piece by piece.
All of these comments about the cost but ignoring the fuel. Everyone acts like generators are better until you’re waiting 3hrs in line just for fuel because you can’t use the free sunlight hitting your house
Wrong! u can have a natural gas generator connected to the main service panel (w/ inter-lock)...instant whole-house power in case of outage...& no need to stand in line @ gas station!
That’s a cool system, I get it…. More efficient battery and gas management. I’d rather use solar and try and lower my home needs, but wouldn’t work for everyone…
I have solar panels in my house connected to the grid with no battery wall unit. I was wondering if it is possible to connect those panels to a Delta Flow ultra so I can power the house in a case of a black out and then connect it back to the grid once it is operational again.
Great content could you use an ecoflow new smart generator and the new delta pro 3 and extra battery to charge an electric car , onne the delta pro 3 reaches 30% you could have the smart generator start charging at 2900 watts and also have solar coming in also could that work?
Better yet, build your own using prismatic lithium batteries, bms, inverter and solar charger/panels (if you want to use solar). For the over $10K spent you can build a system large enough to last without using a generator or even solar for days at the 1200 watts used in this video. Plus, too, you can add, replace, repair as necessary, yourself without sending the entire unit off for repair.
That's okay if you have a lot of diesel fuel, but for long-term outages, you're going to want a way to replenish your energy needs if you're unable to obtain more fuel.
I don't think that is the case, I think the DPU integrates with the SHP2 and the Generator input side to charge. The biggest shortcoming would be the lack of the "Smart" part of the DPU and SHP2 setup where the generator will not start when the DPU reaches your lower limit.
I will stay with my natural gas 10KW generator that will allow me to run everything in my house including my A/C in the summer and gas hot water heat in the winter.
I might get that when my family moves into a house because we get power outages and some gas stations be closing early. Because of a new law in INDIANA. The code is not working.
The problem with these battery generators is that the batteries don't last. Combine that with a chinese company and you are spending a lot of money for something that you are going to be throwing away in a short time. I was looking into buying one of these kinds of units and there were so many reviews of people buying it and it being DOA, or failing to work in a short time and getting no help from the company that I gave up. You just can't beat a gas generator for reliability and dependability.
Fair point, I have been wanting to pull the trigger on this beast for some time now www.harborfreight.com/generators-engines/generators/inverter-generators/9500-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-co-secure-technology-59188.html
@@EverydayHomeRepairsI have this generator. It’s a beast and can run my whole hours without breaking a sweat. I’m hoping HF will be upgrading this to dual or triple fuel like they are their small models. I’ll be upgrading when that happens. It’s a bit of a bear to move into place to run though….. fine for me but if I’m working nights my wife will be stuck…..that’s why I’m contemplating something like the eco flow to just get through something like that until I get home
Such a shame that ecoflow made the decision to abandon all of their Delta Pro (not Extra Battery) customers along with the early "Smart Home Panel v1" adopters. They are all basically boat anchors now...... yep, the same things that made ecoflow wildly successful they have abandoned. Oh and the DP3 still has the 150v limitation --- why is that? They've proven they can do 400-500V (ultra?) so why the limitation on this DP3 model?
Would something like that be worth it in places that have much higher cost for electricity at peek times of the day? Charge it when its cheaper then use it during those peek hours.
It would definitely help with the return of you investment. Checkout the Smart Home Panel 2 with the DP3 or DPU. Kind of a cool setup to reduce your dependency on the grid and you can set to drain the batteries during high price times.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs There are tons of $2200 Predator 9500W inverter units in use. Even if you go top of the line and spring for a Honda EU7000is for $4500, if properly maintained that generator will still be providing reliable power 20 years from now. These battery units will never last that long. Besides, you can draw 9000W from a generator all day long. If you draw 9000W from the EcoFlow with external battery it will be dead in less than an hour.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs I prefer Duromax portables because of their quality, so for 9kW running watts I would say the DuroMax XP11000iH. However I always tell people to buy a tri fuel generator so the y can run it on natural gas if available. The DuroMax XP13000HXT is not an inverter generator, but will give you 8500 watts continuous on natural gas. I admit I don't know a lot about Westinghouse, but I have not heard any negatives. Westinghouse has remote start if that is attractive, and they have their ST Switch accessory for automatic starts. For a 9kW inverter model you would want Westinghouse iGen11000DFc. Westinghouse also has several non-inverter tri-fuel models. The Champion Model #201176 is the only tri-fuel inverter generator close to the size you want. It is 9kW surge, 7.2 kW continuous on gasoline, 5.9kW natural gas. Champion also has some models with remote start, and has some with the advantage of quiet mufflers, always look at how many DB your generator makes in the specs. Honda of course makes fantastic stuff, but it's all gasoline only, and pretty small. They only make one model big enough to meet your needs. One final note, Generac portables have had two major recalls in the last two years, bot items presenting high danger to the owner., nuff said.
Question. My breaker panel is full. I have a 30amp 240 gen with the 4 prong box and a delta pro with 4 to 3 prong 30amp adapter. So my breaker is full but i need a switch to use the current 30amp breaker from the dryer, in an outage and flip the switch over to the generator connector box which at that point the dryer would be off when switched to gen and vise versa. Can someone link something on amazon that would work. Its just to use for couple months until i install my larger breaker box that sitting here. Im in florida. I just need cheap aternative right now. Ty for any help. Im looking for something around 20 to 40 dollars.
@@eosjoe565and anyone else who missed it 00:58 is only mention. “Sent over”. He never says gave him for free. So video needs reported. That not clearly said free. It an add
I like the set up theory. 100% of the generator power is used in changing. The battery bank is static waiting for demand. Most generator only systems over produce, waiting for demand that may never come.
For losing power in Florida with the hurricanes I’ll stick with a gas generator that can power my whole house for 1/6 of the price. Just not worth it for me
Solar! hah! Ironically, we just had a huge storm blow through here and 103,000 are without power. Estimated restore time is 29 hrs from now. The Sun is just setting. How do you think the solar recharge would work for me? Fortunately, I have the generator up and running which will easily handle the outage during. I'm pulling an average of 1500 watts from the generator. That means the Delt Pro 3 with extra battery would be dead in a little over 5 hrs. It's dark out now so no solar.
@@eosjoe565yea I got a delta pro and 2 extra batteries and to be honest it last a while it’s 10.2 kw but I have a duromax 13000 watt and an old Honda eu2000i…. Most of the time I’ll bust out the Honda if I’m just eating up all my power… it’s not bad but not great either and it’s cool they can take 1000watt extra but the 12kw max one the dp3 and 2 batteries is a major set back and the price is ridiculous…. I got my whole set for $4000 and the dp3 alone is about $3400 thats insane
Way too expensive for most folks. I have natural gas lines to my house, so would be much cheaper and last I think a lot longer(many years)...to purchase a quality brand natural gas generator and then hire an electrician to do the wiring based on the few critical electrical items I need to run for emergency outages....ie AC/gas heat furnace , refrigerator, and several 110 wall outlets. Battery technology is not getting cheaper only more expensive and EcoFlo has about 25 YTers that it sends it products to every couple months to advertise their products....so Ill wager most YTers who are touting their 'new and greatest(most expensive) products.....are getting their stuff free I suspect or at heavily discounted prices.
No not really. You could bring 2 x DP units into a Smart Home Panel 2 (SHP2) with a dual voltage hub and also plug a DP3 into the SHP2 with both of them providing power.
Would love to know if an automatic transfer switch, like the ones the whole home generators use, would work in this scenario to kick power over to the Ecoflow as well as the generator. That scenario could be a tipping point for using this. You just make sure the generator has stabil or sea foam in the gas and you'd maybe have to swap the gas out once a year.
If I remember my sound training correctly, for every 7 decibels increase, it is twice as loud to your ear. So, 40 to 47 is twice as loud and 47 to 54 is twice as loud again. Hope that helps for the sound nerds.
I purchased the Bluetti AC300 with (2) 3072 WH batteries. I followed your video on installing a transfer station and wiring and it has already paid dividends. Anytime we lose power I wheel the cart out of the closet, plug the pre-charged generator to the transfer station and flip the breakers. We run Wi-Fi, TV's, refrigerators, freezers, lights, coffee pots etc. I'm at the point of do I buy another duplicate AC300 with (2) 3072 batteries and generate 240V or should I be happy with 120V only?
I get really disappointed when I see folks talk about these things but I have yet to see any of them talk about the regular maintenance that is required for these units. I bought one and was extremely disappointed when I read that to maintain the warranty for these things you have to drain them to 30% and then take them back up to 80% at regular intervals for long term storage. So this means when you need it you will only have 80% of its capacity at best.
This is the most expensive and most convoluted way for a home back-up. This is abuse. You cannot do this just because you have 1M subscribers. Sponsors need to be careful there may be backlash
What a waste of money. Just use the gas generator and quit playing your games. Still, it is your money and fun to do I'm sure. But, the more components in the process, the more efficiency losses you get.
This guy knows nothing of what he talks about. That thing cannot replace a generator. Batteries run down , what are you going to do? Plug it in? The powers out probably because of a storm so you can use solar panels either, which cant charge the system as fast as you use it. Dont waste your money.
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Everyone I follow got these free and are obviously saying how great they are to the ones who didn’t get something for free
Bingo!
Notice he did not bother to say this was a paid advertisement that eco flow gave him it for free!
That’s the thing about these folks I take everything with a grain of salt knowing they can’t say anything bad because then the free bees stop
He got a product for free in exchange for giving us info about it. It’s pretty obvious he didn’t purchase this and review out of the goodness of his heart. No shame there. Many reviewers do review purchased items and also critique items they’ve been sent free of charge. Silver Cymbal, Fentertainment, and Stumpy Nubs are perfect examples. Give ‘em a look.
@@Sorrento_Ben and we are sure the "free" product did not "change his opinion / review
This is really good. I've seen a number of videos on the DP3 and the older Duel Fuel but, this one actually is simple and to the point. Great work!
Thogh the product is good, i think it is an expensive option considering we have power outages only 1-2 times an year.
A normal generator has a better ROI
Would this be equivalent to getting like a generac generator?
@@AXXXXA no, if I was able to get one, a battery generator along side a inverter generator would allow more time to hold you over during a worst case disaster power outtage, like Harvey. My question is can you use a traditional gas generator to charge the Ecoflow Delta Pro 3. Would it be safe to use a traditional "westinghouse generator with a typical THD of around 23%? If so then I would be on the market for this tech. I would definitely have to plan my power usage using an interlock and a delta pro 3.
Yeah for whole house, unless you can get a good TOU rate or have solar generation, the ROI period is going to be VERY long.
I have a smaller battery I just use for my fridge, a few lights, and a fan during outages. My small load requirements made a battery cheaper than a traditional generator. But my outages are rarely longer than 12 hours and I haven't seen more than 36hrs.
Solar has a much better ROI compared to fossil fuels. When you add in the human component
@eatttherich4653 yup, high up front cost, then almost free to run with an infinite renewable source. When power is out for, you its probably the ame for the store. Cant pump gas without power
Not sure why a lot of people are obsessed with powering the entire house during disasters. All you really need are the essentials. To me, powering the entire house is not essential.
I'm thinking of the Eco flow products as an alternative to "going solar" the conventional way.
Some people want or live off grid, others want the whole house operational with no interruption during blackouts or storms. There are multiple reasons why someone would want this unit. Not sure why you care so much? Just get your essentials and let people have the option to go all out if they want.
I frequently see media reports about how the price of lithium ion batteries is approaching $100 / kWh. And then I see the actual products that sell them for around $1000 / kWh. I get that there are other components to the system and also some markup, but the pricing of such batteries remains outrageous. I'll continue to wait until prices come down.
Prices won't come down because at the same time the government is increasing tariffs on import solar and lithium. Anything bigger than 3k inverter and 5kwh batteries, you are better off diy. Anything at 1kwh battery and 2kw inverter, the portable is better priced.
Yeah sucks that US is dead set against low cost chinese imports. When they do quality they make some really good stuff sometimes.
@@Wegetsignal Sure, you can get some quality LiFEPO4 batteries from China which utilize Grade A cells. Unfortunately there is also a lot of junk coming out of China which uses Grade B cells.
My thinking is when world war 3 starts he will have a refrigerator for him and others.
It’s much more than just the cost of batteries. You need to factor in the battery management systems onboard along with all the components to piece it together. Also, let’s not forget profit. Companies are in business to make profit, not save the world. Markup is necessary and it’s how companies have enough money to stay afloat, pay employees, and still have enough left over for R&D for further improvement of the product - improvements mentioned: higher capacity, reduced noise, better cable management, external ICE generator for constant power. All this before the government (aside from inflation). We are still early adopters with this technology so if you’re waiting for a significant price drop it won’t come until this technology is commodity - which always requires many early adopters willing to spend.
I wish all these things used standardized replaceable modules for when inevitability the batteries are worn-out. Ability to self repair and easily swap components should be the norm.
I love this channel. That said, this has got to be the most complicated, expensive gas generator backup system ever created.
If I wanted to see adds I would look at a green sheet! How about real diy videos instead of adds
Power outages aren’t frequent in my area. When they do occur, they don’t last that long, so I couldn’t justify the cost.
My ideal system for an outage would be to run a generator during the day, and then use a power station at night. The big advantage to power stations is that they can be kept indoors. No worries about carbon monoxide, nor do have to worry about them being stolen. Solar panels would be a nice addition, but clouds and trees can restrict the power output.
It all comes down to your location.
What’s a power station?
I swear this is the best video on the delta 3… most practical use case
For my money the Generac is a better buy if you might be gone for more than a few hours. My house is not situated to benefit from solar and if the power goes out for a day or two, which is has several times, I have no way to charge the EcoFlow if I’m away on vacation or out of town for work. The EcoFlow is nice and quiet but has a limited run time without somebody home to tend to it. If I have to use a stand-by generator why not get a natural gas generator, if you have natural gas, and not worry about a power outage during a winter storm while away from home?
Battery as a back up system is still way too expensive. I shall wait till technology has improved and price comes down.
I posted this on the EcoFlow Facebook site and was told by a few that I can burn up my equipment and risk a house fire. I would like your option.
I have an 11,000W whole house Solar
PV system on my home. My particular system
has 2 (2000W - AC) receptacles connected to my PV inverters that can be used in a power outage as long as the sun is out. (I even produce power on a cloudy day). This power is converted to AC by my inverters.
I also have a Delta 2 + battery and a manual transfer switch. In the event of a power outage, while my D2 is connected to my transfer switch I like to run another extension cord from my solar to my D2 during the day that would feed AC power in to. I know any AC input would pass through my D2 and consumed first before any battery power was used.
I have a 22kw propane genset. I just bought battery backup w/solar panel. The issue is long term power outage due to national emergency and shortages of fossil fuels. The battery backup would be the only way I could generate heat in the house with an outdoor wood boiler during the winter if out of propane. It will also run my well pump for fresh water. Because it is portable, I can also take it RV'ing to provide power that way also.
I live in Phoenix, lots of sun. Solar panels are great, but unless you have a way to save extra power, you never really see a major reduction in your electric bill, justifying the initial expense. you need something to save the extra power for when you have higher usage instead of it getting pushed back into the network. This kind of setup would get it done.
I don’t have solar or any experience, but one solar homeowner told me in California when power is pushed back into the network, the meter reverses and that’s how he gets credits. ??
@@tonymanero5544lol no no that’s not how it works. When you get solar you are still connected to the grid and you still use the grid power. Your solar panels create energy that does get put back into the grid and is tracked by its own meter so the power company sees how much energy your panels produced, then credit you which basically off sets your electric bill. Keep in mind, if the panels start to fail and don’t produce the same energy you use from the grid you will receive a bill from the power company.
@tonymanero5544 they have a way of measuring how much electricity gets pushed back into the system. However, they don't pay you on a one for one basis. If it costs you a dollar, they're paying two cents for it. It's far more cost-effective to hold on to that power until you need it.
@@LordHolley Totally depends on where you are, In Florida, we have 1 to 1 net metering so any extra energy you get a credit for at the same rate they charge you. If you don't have 1 to 1 net metering and depending on your cost of electricity, that's where something like a Tesla Powerwall makes sense and a lot of people in California are installing them now that they no longer have 1 to 1 net metering. Their cost of electricity is very high as well so its payback period is pretty decent. In FL, it's tough to justify the cost given we have 1 to 1 net metering and electricity rates that are not too high.
Just paid 2k euros for the delta pro. I can understand the benefits for US market on that 230V, but here in EU, I don't think there will be that much reason to pay double of what I've paid for 400W extra battery, 400W more of inverter power, and be more silent.
About the noise of the original delta pro I already have a plan to replace the fans to noctua redux fans.
Only thing for us in Europe that I honestly really liked on the new DP3 are the new extra batteries. Their size is half the size of the original delta pro extra batteries, and they stack on top of the new DP3.
What I REALLY would like to see in an upgraded version of the DP are 2 built-in XT150 connectors to power their Wave 2, and also to enable charging using their alternator charger without the need of using an adapter.
The generator integration is a really great idea/system. I ordered the DP3 - It's my first ecoflow purchase. Really excited to have a 240v all in one system.
Nice to know he found a sucker … his fake ass review is. Really a sales pitch. But he did not bother to mention it in the video. Closet he came was 00:58. Saying “sent over”. When should have said in all honesty this was a free unit eco flow gave me to create this add for them
@@KE5ZZO I'm a sucker because I like a product?
@@KE5ZZO Sounds like a whole lot of envy on your part. If he said something that was flat out false, then maybe you'd have a point, otherwise it just sounds like envy.
The problem with the portable battery industry, and especially EcoFlow, is that all the products are TOO EXPENSIVE!! The delta pro 3 needs to be $1,000 *at most* and all the other products scaled down in price similarly.
That price would be way below cost. Not to say that there isn’t a hefty profit margin on these types of things (after all, how could Anker have had their recent 40% off prime day sales if they didn’t have at least that much margin) but the batteries in the delta 3 pro alone are worth around that much, not to mention the cost of the split-phase inverters or charge controllers.
If the counter-argument is “then have less battery capacity to hit the lower price point” then… they do make those products too.
lol you’re kidding right?
Stop claiming, it’s Bidenomics and Harris said it’s working
Do you frequently stand in the car lot of the local Mercedes dealer and demand that they drop all their prices immediately to 25k or less?
i bought the delta pro 3 , once its paid off i'll get the spare battery then the smart gen - Thank you
Good improvements in version 3 of this product. For me the generator leaves a lot to be desired. Minimally Id like to see dual fuel, tri-fuel would be even better. I'd like to be able to attach it (or leave it permanently attached) to a large propane tank that I can keep full or to a natuaral gas line so as not to worry about searching for gasoline during a blackout (or multi day blackout when fuel gets scarce).
Great 👍 😊3 eco flow delta pro 3 and eco flow delta pro 3 extra 4 battery system
Can you charge the battery using a regular gas generator while in use?
It seems all these EcoFlow videos come out on the same day. TH-camrs touting how fantastic these are. Of course they are fantastic when you are given $5000+ worth of equipment. The real problem I have with these is the short life span. Just look how EcoFlow has changed in the past few years. The chumps that bought previous models are probably really kicking themselves. 12 months later and there's a new model with more power. Meanwhile, if I purchase a 8000W generator today, that generator will still be cranking out 8000W 20 years from now if maintained properly. The technology in these battery inverters is still too new to be investing $5000-$8000 in a backup system.
That is literally how review embargos work.
In the event of a national grid failure 8000w fossil fuel generator would end up a boat anchor
@@randallsmith3073such a scenario is incredibly unlikely compared to local or regional outages measured in days or weeks, caused by weather events typically. Ideally you want it all, battery backed by solar to keep low to medium power output long-term, and a propane generator for higher power output short to medium term.
@@guspaz Makes sense
Over Priced!
I prefer a 15KW or 20KW whole house backup generator.
Both are viable solutions. Batteries allow for continuous usage though, solar panels can charge batteries, which means it can go indefinitely. generators are good because they are cheap and work better if you just have a couple outages a year
I agree with you in regards to bang for buck but what happens in a really huge emergency when no fuel is available
@@robertchristianson1187 Thank you for your comment. As I live in hurricane alley of south east NC, I have had to endure power outages a dozen of times over the last 30 years. One time the power was out for over 2 weeks. In my opinion, & this is going to sound overkill, but I would also have a 500 gallon propane tank just in case, since their are no natural gas lines any where close to my house. I have also found most propane gas dealers are usually able to start delivery's within 5 days or so. And you never know what will happen the next time we get hit by a CAT4 or 5 hurricane.
@@robertchristianson1187 I mean natural gas generators exist... Propane generators exist. Heck they make tri fuel and quad fuel generators, they burn propane, natural gas, diesel, and gasoline.
Im not arguing for batteries, but for people with medical equipment or people who work from home or mission critical computers/servers are in the house, batteries make more sense because they are paired with a automatic transfer switch and allows seamless transition.
@@abrahammc2125 Until 4 years ago I was living off grid in a 2000 sq ft home for 15 years.
We had solar,wind, and a propane 12 kw generator with agm batteries.
If I were considering an off grid or emergency set up I would have batteries and at least a gen set.
A few solar panels for back up just in case.
The new EcoFlow Delta Pro 3 is a Boss but again, it's a never ending hunt for bigger, better, more power. You're always chasing the ultimate and can never catch it, while it costs you a ton of money in the chase.
Exactly... you dump $6000 into this only to have Delto Pro 4 come out next spring with twice the power. Meanwhile, your unit has depreciated to diddly.
@@eosjoe565if you trade in they give you like 1/8 the credit lol
2 Delta pros =7200w.
Delta pro 3 + battery = 8000w
how is one = to hours and the other = to days?
Thanks for the video, do you know if the old delta pro w/ extra battery would charge the delta pro 3 while its connected to the house inlet generator plug during a power outage?
I use a combination of Ecoflow and 11k gennie on LPG. I have dual inlets through a 3 pole double throw switch. I run the generator during the day and batteries at night. That way, I don't t have to worry about noise letting people know what I have. Here, recently, we were down 2 days due to storms. I ran gen 10 hrs during the day and after dinner went quiet with batteries. If this was a grid down situation, opsec, especially at night is essential. I bought my DPUs piece by piece.
Did you place your genie next to your LPG tank? What’s guesstimate on LPG use per day when power is out?
Hi, if you need backup power for stormy weather, do you think the battery needs to be waterproof?
Would it have been cheaper to just get a generac?
Another ecoflow INFOMERCIAL courtesy of free equipment provided by Ecoflow.
I wish you could use your Telsa as a Batterybackup for the house.
All of these comments about the cost but ignoring the fuel. Everyone acts like generators are better until you’re waiting 3hrs in line just for fuel because you can’t use the free sunlight hitting your house
Wrong! u can have a natural gas generator connected to the main service panel (w/ inter-lock)...instant whole-house power in case of outage...& no need to stand in line @ gas station!
Hello you said that the 240v outlet on pro 3 is 30 Amp, but ecoflow saying it is 16.7 Amps, can you explain I don’t understand
That’s a cool system, I get it…. More efficient battery and gas management. I’d rather use solar and try and lower my home needs, but wouldn’t work for everyone…
Cool. I love the generator option.
Hey Ray, yeah I think the Smart Generator 2 will be a crowd pleaser 👍
I have solar panels in my house connected to the grid with no battery wall unit. I was wondering if it is possible to connect those panels to a Delta Flow ultra so I can power the house in a case of a black out and then connect it back to the grid once it is operational again.
Yes!
Great content could you use an ecoflow new smart generator and the new delta pro 3 and extra battery to charge an electric car , onne the delta pro 3 reaches 30% you could have the smart generator start charging at 2900 watts and also have solar coming in also could that work?
Whats your thoughts for summer usage for 2 freezers and a fridge and central ac 2 ton, winter use with the furnace and the same on the first part
Better yet, build your own using prismatic lithium batteries, bms, inverter and solar charger/panels (if you want to use solar). For the over $10K spent you can build a system large enough to last without using a generator or even solar for days at the 1200 watts used in this video. Plus, too, you can add, replace, repair as necessary, yourself without sending the entire unit off for repair.
Did they do away with lithium batters and go to a step up.
Maybe I missed it: do these units contain Lithium Ion or Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries?
LFP 👍
they should have upgrade the generator so you can use natural gas hookup for fuel.
Cool alternative, but would still go diesel generator over battery backup.
Thanks for the feedback
That's okay if you have a lot of diesel fuel, but for long-term outages, you're going to want a way to replenish your energy needs if you're unable to obtain more fuel.
Good luck getting diesel when you really need it
Are there stack ons for the newer unit like the 2
What cost is one looking at with the generator and stack ons
Does the new smart generator interact with the delta pro ultra in the same way?
I don't think that is the case, I think the DPU integrates with the SHP2 and the Generator input side to charge. The biggest shortcoming would be the lack of the "Smart" part of the DPU and SHP2 setup where the generator will not start when the DPU reaches your lower limit.
Hi. Greeting from Ukraine. Now we are using this stuff a lot here. What is a length of a cable from delta pro to generator ?
I will stay with my natural gas 10KW generator that will allow me to run everything in my house including my A/C in the summer and gas hot water heat in the winter.
Fair, with this setup and even a soft start for the AC I would be limited to running for maybe an hour or 2 per day. Thanks for the feedback.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs I need to use my soft start as my inrush amps are around 60 and my generator won't start my A/C without my soft start connected.
You are Pro man thank you so-much from Morocco
You bet 👊
Is that garage detached from your house for that genarator.
I might get that when my family moves into a house because we get power outages and some gas stations be closing early. Because of a new law in INDIANA. The code is not working.
Was there a Delta Pro 2? I thought it was just the two versions in the thumbnail...
I'll still buy two Delta pros over the Delta pro 3. I personally don't like the price
Thanks for the feedback!
The problem with these battery generators is that the batteries don't last. Combine that with a chinese company and you are spending a lot of money for something that you are going to be throwing away in a short time. I was looking into buying one of these kinds of units and there were so many reviews of people buying it and it being DOA, or failing to work in a short time and getting no help from the company that I gave up. You just can't beat a gas generator for reliability and dependability.
Fair point, I have been wanting to pull the trigger on this beast for some time now www.harborfreight.com/generators-engines/generators/inverter-generators/9500-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-co-secure-technology-59188.html
What above comment if you read between the lines “pull trigger”. Con them into giving it to me free for a fake review
@@EverydayHomeRepairsI have this generator. It’s a beast and can run my whole hours without breaking a sweat. I’m hoping HF will be upgrading this to dual or triple fuel like they are their small models. I’ll be upgrading when that happens. It’s a bit of a bear to move into place to run though….. fine for me but if I’m working nights my wife will be stuck…..that’s why I’m contemplating something like the eco flow to just get through something like that until I get home
You are SO jealous that this guy gets stuff you want for free!
@@KE5ZZO You are persistent with your envy. Making your point more than once is just getting ridiculous.
Can you add expansion battery to delta pro?
Such a shame that ecoflow made the decision to abandon all of their Delta Pro (not Extra Battery) customers along with the early "Smart Home Panel v1" adopters. They are all basically boat anchors now...... yep, the same things that made ecoflow wildly successful they have abandoned. Oh and the DP3 still has the 150v limitation --- why is that? They've proven they can do 400-500V (ultra?) so why the limitation on this DP3 model?
Would something like that be worth it in places that have much higher cost for electricity at peek times of the day? Charge it when its cheaper then use it during those peek hours.
It would definitely help with the return of you investment. Checkout the Smart Home Panel 2 with the DP3 or DPU. Kind of a cool setup to reduce your dependency on the grid and you can set to drain the batteries during high price times.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs Just a general question. Where i used to live, rates where 25% higher at peak times.
The cost here is the same 24/7
14.895c/kwh
It would be nice to see a comparison between these EcoFlow 'generators' and competitive makers.
The competition is not generously providing free products in return for doing the evaluation...
@@LynyrdSkynyrd.4Ever this company carpet bombs the youtube creators with these units thus saturating the review space. But, hey, it is a free market.
But that comparison will never happen sine he got it free
Scott I am a hard believer in engine generators, and I know a lot about them. I would never do a battery unless I was forced.
What is your favorite inverter generator in the 9,000 W range with a 240V outlet?
@@EverydayHomeRepairs There are tons of $2200 Predator 9500W inverter units in use. Even if you go top of the line and spring for a Honda EU7000is for $4500, if properly maintained that generator will still be providing reliable power 20 years from now. These battery units will never last that long. Besides, you can draw 9000W from a generator all day long. If you draw 9000W from the EcoFlow with external battery it will be dead in less than an hour.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs I prefer Duromax portables because of their quality, so for 9kW running watts I would say the DuroMax XP11000iH. However I always tell people to buy a tri fuel generator so the y can run it on natural gas if available. The DuroMax XP13000HXT is not an inverter generator, but will give you 8500 watts continuous on natural gas. I admit I don't know a lot about Westinghouse, but I have not heard any negatives. Westinghouse has remote start if that is attractive, and they have their ST Switch accessory for automatic starts. For a 9kW inverter model you would want Westinghouse iGen11000DFc. Westinghouse also has several non-inverter tri-fuel models. The Champion Model #201176 is the only tri-fuel inverter generator close to the size you want. It is 9kW surge, 7.2 kW continuous on gasoline, 5.9kW natural gas. Champion also has some models with remote start, and has some with the advantage of quiet mufflers, always look at how many DB your generator makes in the specs. Honda of course makes fantastic stuff, but it's all gasoline only, and pretty small. They only make one model big enough to meet your needs. One final note, Generac portables have had two major recalls in the last two years, bot items presenting high danger to the owner., nuff said.
@@EverydayHomeRepairs PS personally I own a 17kW Cummins C17N Home Standby with an automatic transfer switch. It is permanently installed.
Looks like my original reply didn't post 😢
Question. My breaker panel is full. I have a 30amp 240 gen with the 4 prong box and a delta pro with 4 to 3 prong 30amp adapter. So my breaker is full but i need a switch to use the current 30amp breaker from the dryer, in an outage and flip the switch over to the generator connector box which at that point the dryer would be off when switched to gen and vise versa. Can someone link something on amazon that would work. Its just to use for couple months until i install my larger breaker box that sitting here. Im in florida. I just need cheap aternative right now. Ty for any help. Im looking for something around 20 to 40 dollars.
Don’t understand shit,but I love it😂
anybody else catch "swnt me free" so remember that when watching - this is a sales pitch not an honest review
I don't think I've ever watched a TH-cam EcoFlow presentation where the presenter PURCHASED the unit. That should tell you something.
@@eosjoe565and anyone else who missed it 00:58 is only mention. “Sent over”. He never says gave him for free. So video needs reported. That not clearly said free. It an add
Thats pretty cool.
I looked at the price, heck and no!
I like the set up theory. 100% of the generator power is used in changing. The battery bank is static waiting for demand. Most generator only systems over produce, waiting for demand that may never come.
Two Delta Pros will give you 7.2kWh not 7.2Wh the Delta Pro 3 with one extra battery would be 8kWh not a huge difference! 🙄
$5 GRAND!!!? Think I'll stick with a tri-fuel ICE generator for just over $1Grand!
dude love the channel
Thanks for the support!
This option doesn't make sense to me for home use. For the same price you can get more than twice the power from a diesel generator.
A fan running in the background, that I can hear, does not bother me. Am I standing alone on an island with that sentiment?
For losing power in Florida with the hurricanes I’ll stick with a gas generator that can power my whole house for 1/6 of the price. Just not worth it for me
How much Solar do you need to recharge this?
Solar! hah! Ironically, we just had a huge storm blow through here and 103,000 are without power. Estimated restore time is 29 hrs from now. The Sun is just setting. How do you think the solar recharge would work for me? Fortunately, I have the generator up and running which will easily handle the outage during. I'm pulling an average of 1500 watts from the generator. That means the Delt Pro 3 with extra battery would be dead in a little over 5 hrs. It's dark out now so no solar.
@@eosjoe565yea I got a delta pro and 2 extra batteries and to be honest it last a while it’s 10.2 kw but I have a duromax 13000 watt and an old Honda eu2000i…. Most of the time I’ll bust out the Honda if I’m just eating up all my power… it’s not bad but not great either and it’s cool they can take 1000watt extra but the 12kw max one the dp3 and 2 batteries is a major set back and the price is ridiculous…. I got my whole set for $4000 and the dp3 alone is about $3400 thats insane
It's all great until you turn on your A/C then all that power goes completely out in a couple hours
Yeah, AC is a whole different level of power draw.
Way too expensive for most folks. I have natural gas lines to my house, so would be much cheaper and last I think a lot longer(many years)...to purchase a quality brand natural gas generator and then hire an electrician to do the wiring based on the few critical electrical items I need to run for emergency outages....ie AC/gas heat furnace , refrigerator, and several 110 wall outlets.
Battery technology is not getting cheaper only more expensive and EcoFlo has about 25 YTers that it sends it products to every couple months to advertise their products....so Ill wager most YTers who are touting their 'new and greatest(most expensive) products.....are getting their stuff free I suspect or at heavily discounted prices.
Very good video. Can you connect the delta pro to the delta pro 3?
No not really. You could bring 2 x DP units into a Smart Home Panel 2 (SHP2) with a dual voltage hub and also plug a DP3 into the SHP2 with both of them providing power.
What about cost?
$3200 plus tax plus shipping. Right now.
@@brucey5585 But it's $5500 with the extra battery
Wondering if a second battery is possible or only one. Thanks
I like your Tremor 😊
Would love to know if an automatic transfer switch, like the ones the whole home generators use, would work in this scenario to kick power over to the Ecoflow as well as the generator. That scenario could be a tipping point for using this. You just make sure the generator has stabil or sea foam in the gas and you'd maybe have to swap the gas out once a year.
If I remember my sound training correctly, for every 7 decibels increase, it is twice as loud to your ear. So, 40 to 47 is twice as loud and 47 to 54 is twice as loud again. Hope that helps for the sound nerds.
Actually, twice as loud is a 3db increase
U are talking 1.5 galon of petrol to fill up 8kwh? That's is not the main goal to save electricity.
EG4 = Better
Great 👍 Eco flow delta pro 3 system
Discount codes don't work.
$6300?! Pfft, I don't think so.
That’s not too bad when you compare that price to generac, kohler, or Briggs and Stratton at $17,000 depending on your needs
I purchased the Bluetti AC300 with (2) 3072 WH batteries. I followed your video on installing a transfer station and wiring and it has already paid dividends. Anytime we lose power I wheel the cart out of the closet, plug the pre-charged generator to the transfer station and flip the breakers. We run Wi-Fi, TV's, refrigerators, freezers, lights, coffee pots etc. I'm at the point of do I buy another duplicate AC300 with (2) 3072 batteries and generate 240V or should I be happy with 120V only?
NOT AT ALL Happy with EcoFlow’s customer service AT ALL
hello will the new smart generator 2 work with the delta ultra unit as well ?
I get really disappointed when I see folks talk about these things but I have yet to see any of them talk about the regular maintenance that is required for these units. I bought one and was extremely disappointed when I read that to maintain the warranty for these things you have to drain them to 30% and then take them back up to 80% at regular intervals for long term storage. So this means when you need it you will only have 80% of its capacity at best.
One could have 20k in these
So many jealous people who want free things.
Include total prices in these paid reviews!
This is the most expensive and most convoluted way for a home back-up. This is abuse. You cannot do this just because you have 1M subscribers. Sponsors need to be careful there may be backlash
What a waste of money. Just use the gas generator and quit playing your games. Still, it is your money and fun to do I'm sure. But, the more components in the process, the more efficiency losses you get.
This guy knows nothing of what he talks about. That thing cannot replace a generator. Batteries run down , what are you going to do? Plug it in? The powers out probably because of a storm so you can use solar panels either, which cant charge the system as fast as you use it. Dont waste your money.
Way over priced and way way over hyped. If i received these echo anything free i would brag and hype these things as well
These things are overpriced junk. Just buy a generator.