Yess! I was so mad at Harry for being jealous that Ron got Head boy. Like bro, that's your best friend. You have everything you could ever ask for so just let Ron have this!!
@@Chloe_Raine I agree Harry needed to get over the prefect thing, but he definitely did not have everything he could ever ask for. Harry was always low key jealous of Ron because Ron had what Harry didn't - family. And that makes sense considering Harry's upbringing.
@@tbird2249 I absolutely love how layered this is. The boys loved each other first and foremost, but always felt insecure about the things they didn't have that the other did. For Harry, it was family and a loving home life, parents who were alive and actually cared what happened to him. For Ron, it was feeling valued and respected, to not have to worry about money and affording things, to be recognized for his own merits and being good at something that was his. Both boys longed to be "normal" and found that normality they craved in their friendship with each other. Beautiful 🥲
@@Chloe_Raineit’s was also about disreguakted emotions after fresh Trama with a capital T! And his being triggered by dumbledore choice, dumbledore was closest father figure and he chose someone else.
Ron still has my heart from book one where he was explaining duels to Harry and Harry asked what to do if he didnt know a spell or lost his wand and Ron straight up answered "deck 'em"
That was the first indication there was more to Sirius than meets the eye - "Kid, please sit down, you're making your leg worse and I'm legit worried about you but super impressed by your loyalty"
It kinda pissed me off. In they second book, Hermione didn't even know what mudblood was, whilst in the movie she makes a whole drama about it. Ron is the one who understands the damage in those words.
My favorite Ron moment was when Percy sent him that bs long letter that warned him to stay away from Harry and Ron was ready to disown his own brother for him.
@@heirofthestarsno because they are all insanely brave one of the main traits of Gryffindors. They also have the loyalty trait it’s just more known as a hufflepuff one. I’m pretty sure the reason Harry is not in slytherin is literally because he didn’t wanna be a bad wizard and he doesn’t do stuff for his own benefit like ever. Which is one of slytherin main traits. Hermione could be in ravenclaw except for how brave she is which, again, would make her more of a Gryffindor
Ron Weasley's first instinct upon his friends coming to rescue him isn't "oh thank gods you're here," it's "you guys need to leave me here, this is a trap, please go before Sirius Black gets you"
Movie Ron “He’s got a point you know.” Book Ron “You asked us a question and she knows the answer! Why ask if you don't want to be told?" Always makes me mad!
True, the way Movie's Ron passively antagonizes Hermione (which, granted, was actually an insufferable Ms Know-It-All due to the fact the scenarists wouldn't let her be humble for a breath) was pretty tiring and made the transition to lovers all that more chaotic...
once i saw a funny reddit comment that just went "hermione: you asked a question and i know the answer! why ask if you don't want to be told? the class cheered and snape evaporated"
My favorite Ron moment is from book 3 when Snape calls Hermione an insufferable know it all. The whole class gets mad, despite having called Hermione a know it all at least once, and Ron, who called her a know it all about twice a week stands up and says, “You asked a question and she answered it, why ask if you don’t want to be told” straight to Snape’s face. Ron is one of the reasons I can’t go back to the movies after reading the books.
The only time i didn't like Snape despite him being the most relatable character to me is when he said this to Hermione or any other instance of him insulting like, she's a kid bro grow up besides she's not one bit wrong, so.
Snape was such a pathetic man. He bullied children because he never got over his own childhood trauma. What happened to him wasn’t fair, but how he treated the kids he taught wasn’t fair either.
Correction: *Dumbledore* took Ron as Harry’s “most precious thing”. Ron and Hermione were both summoned by Dumbledore the night before the Lake challenge.
What makes me sad is that not only do the movies make Ron seem like the third wheel, they also take away his charm, smarts, and his loyalty. Part of what makes that fight with Harry in the 7th book so devastating is that it is so out of character for him. And that makes the fact that he came back that much more powerful. One of my favorite lines in DH is when Ron says: "He must have known I'd run out on you." To which Harry replies: "No, he always knew you'd want to come back." Like, his FUNDAMENTAL character trait is his loyalty and bravery, and the movies totally ruined that. They make him seem like a tag-along who is forced to do things "just because," when that couldn't be further from the truth. Sorry for the Essay, but Ron is my favorite character and the way he was treated in the movies breaks my heart.
Their is a video about the director talking about the movies and how his favorite character was Hermione and that's why she is portrayed the way she is in the movies because he wanted her to be more of a main character than Ron
the fight in the 7th book made me cry so much. i was devastated, i never thought they would fight and i tried reading the book much faster to the part where they make up.
@@masonguthrie1257 He was a little stubborn and butted heads with Harry a lot because of certain things, which caused him to walk out on the group. But I think the primary reason it’s so important is because he ALWAYS came back, there was not one single time that he didn’t.
Yeah!! They gave Hermione all of his best moments. He was my favourite character and they just turned him into a cowardly oaf. Same sort of thing happened to Ginny. She was a feisty badass in the books, in the movies she like a walking vegetable.
@@maizymusix Regardless of whether she accidentally stole lines, it's on the director to correct it and have the right final cut. But the director's bias (as stated in behind the scenes clips) for Hermione is ultimately the reason why that was left in, even if it was originally a mistake.
@@maizymusix Part of making him even dumber was that Steve Kloves just flat-out decided to give _all_ of the exposition to either Dumbledore (because he had seen it all) or Hermione (because she read it somewhere). Her finding out about James being a Seeker first in the movie was a bit creepy, and given her character's history (and that the first three books had been released before writing had begun), sadly ironic that she would say "it's in your blood" given how she is treated for hers.
Ron Weasley in the books: a brave and loyal friend who is human and makes mistakes. He experiences jealousy and he sometimes says things he doesn't mean, but he's there for Harry. Ron Weasley in the movies: I have red hair and Hermione says all my lines
YYEEEES! No one talks about that enough when they say how mischaracterized Hermione, Harry, and Ron (and Ginny) are. Especially Ron! Every time o reread books I’m like gahh!! They gave that line to Hermione and that one to Harry amd that one tonH again!!
@@CM-pf1xc My favorite part in the books was when Harry said to make a light, Hermione had a muggle-born moment saying there was no wood for a fire, and Ron reminded her she's a doggone witch. It will forever be a peak trio moment, and the recognition in the comments made me happy.
@@jonquilgemstone I mean, that's the kind of scenes that humbles Hermione down and show that if, yes, she is extremely educated for even a wizard of her age, she doesn't quite _live_ in this world as much as Ron does.
Not to mention the man went through the first two books with a wand that was canonically almost purpose built to be terrible as a hand me down, which he was given as a hand me down, and was still doing functional magic (if not the highest quality) until the thing got snapped in half and broke completely. And then he finally got a wand that actually *worked* for him, and showed instant improvement, showing that yeah, he was a good wizard, but he was the equivalent of a great repair guy given a bunch of broken tools and no ways to repair the tool quality. In essence, he had a genuine reason to blame his tools.
@@theendersmirk5851 same thing with Neville if I remember right. His broke in book 5 and was a hand me down. Once he got his own personal wand he did a lot better.
One of my fav moments in the series is when Ron brings Harry to the burrow for the first time, and he feels slightly embarrassed because it is chaotic and messy and not like most houses. And Harry just says, "I think it's brilliant."
Yesss and I love that he’s not even trying to be nice he’s genuine because he’s so impressed with the magic and it’s the opposite of the dursleys house
One of the times they did him dirty was in poa when Snape tells Hermione she is an insufferable know it all and in the books he goes off and says “why did you ask if you didn’t want to be told” but in the films they literally just make him say “he has a point you know”
in the first movie they let Hermione solve the Devil Snare trap completely by herself while Ron is just freaking out but in the books it's Hermione who figures out they need fire but says they don't have any wood and Ron says "Have you gone mad?! Are you a witch or not?!" It's Ron who reminds her she can do magic which saves them. They do him kinda dirty in the movies
Ron wasn't even calm about it, either. The text was literally all caps because he "bellowed" (exact word from the book) as in he yelled his lungs out at her simply for forgetting that she could use magic.
To be fair, that change was a bit more understandable because Hermione's potions trial was cut from the movie. So they needed to find somewhere else to let Hermione shine at the finale. Devil Snare trial was more of a group effort, so they changed that to be Hermione's trial instead. Meanwhile, Ron still got his own wizard chess trial later where he could show off his awesomeness. But I do agree that they should've made Ron act less panicky in the Devil Snare trial. That wasn't cool.
@@Lady_de_Lis They did him dirty in general in the movies, and Hermione got given plenty of Ron's moments from the books. In the movies he serves as little more than comic relief whereas in the books he is brave, protecting, and is the main anchor of Harry and Hermione to the magic world, do remember that they are both muggle raised.
@@smsebas Yes, I know. I'm just speaking specifically about the Devil Snare scene. I understand that Ron was done very dirty later in the series, but I don't think the Devil Snare scene is quite as bad as other examples. The only thing they really did wrong was make him act overly panicked during the scene.
They wasted Ginny too. She was shy in the first two books , bur after chamber of secrets she became quite confident , badass and very pretty. She was not the one luring around Harry tieing his shoe laces and putting cookies in his mouth. Harry was the one to initiate the relationship and then she started going out with him.
@@amritanair8519 I mean Hermione figured put how to beat the Potions obstacle in the Philsopher/Sorcerers stone figured out the monster was a Basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets she figured out Lupin was a werewolf in the Prisoner of Azkaban (I'm re-reading the books so I have nothing for Goblet of Fire as of rn but I will have some soon) she put the x's on the doors when they didn't know which direction they came from in the Department of Mysteries in the Order of the Pheonix. And there are many more examples in the last two books but I don't have time. But I'm sure there are many more examples in the books. WHAT THE FLIP HOW DID THIS GET 100 LIKES THX SO MUCH
That is due to the Screenwriter of all the movies, except Order of the Phoenix. Steve kloves giving all of Rons good lines to Hermione because Hermione was his favorite character in the series
@@geministargazer9830 he could have left both with their own lines from the books making both look good but he gave all of Ron's good lines to Hermione in order to make her look even better and Ron like a lazy no good attention seeking slacker.
Ron was also smart in his own way in the books, its why i was so happy that he became a prefect. He literally knew so much about the wizarding world and helped harry whenever he can
In one of the conversation between slytherine .pansy told that ginny is liked by boys and very good looking. She is really confident in books .(half blood prince)
They gave Hermione a lot of Ron's lines too to make her look smarter, but all of the lines about History was originally Ron's. She was supposed to be naturally gifted at school things, but Ron was supposed to be the one that new about all the wizard History because of his wizard family, not Hermione. They really destroyed Ron in the movies and made him a stupid, scared, angry boy when he was actually so loyal, brave, and proud.
And for that I somehow feel bad for Rupert Grint, he's made to play a worse version of character many ppl hate. When HP ends, ppl just forget who Rupert Grint is
The moment that added more to how close Ron and Harry were had to be the moment in Goblet of Fire when Ron got super pissed at Karakaroff for giving Harry a damn 4 for the first task when all the others gave him close to 10 and Harry didn't care if Karakarofd even if Karakaroff had decided to give him 0 because he now had Ron by his side to look down at the bullies in indignation. And Hermione breaking down after the two made up telling how much she missed their stupidity and banters... I broke down too 🥹
@@oceanussolis1137 Well yes, perhaps, but Harry literally had no clue what that spell did, and also Malfoy was trying to hit him with the Cruciatus curse at the time. In Sirius's case, he knew what Lupin was capable of as a werewolf; and this wasn't an in-the-moment thing, he planned it.
Theres a reason the Ron Weasley Bashing tag on ao3 exists… a lot of people, after spending a lot of time in the fandom filled with ppl who only watched the movie, lost sight of who Ron was in the books… a great friend, and one who made mistakes as every human being does, but always tried to fix them ❤
I really want to like this comment but it’s at 100 and I don’t want to change that Edit: I came back because of a reply notification and it was at 151 so I liked it but I’m not the one who ruined the 100
English is not my fist language (the houses have “translated” names here) so for 1 tiny second I thought I had the name gryffindor memorized wrong in English.
They really gave Hermione all of Ron’s like cool best friend traits and then looked at Ron and said “you’re now the stupid pig sidekick! No one will question what you bring to the table by Book 7 when you leave! It’s the Harry and Hermione show!”
Omg, I hated that the movies did Ron so dirty! Like, seriously, he was waaaaaaaaaaaay more intelligent than the movies gave him credit for, and I'm just gonna point out one of my favorite book 1 lines: “There's no wood?” Ron bellowed. “Are you a witch or not?”
Same with Ginny. For Ron and her, they stole all their shine, that's why people who only watched the movies end up shipping Hermione with Harry, it's absurd when you've read the books because it's like shipping siblings...
So true. It wasn’t just loyalty. Ron understood Harry didn’t grow up in the magic world like he did so he could easily see himself as the better wizard. He thought he had to protect Harry
“Let’s not start a fight with the serial killer PLEASE… Ron what are you doing?” Idk why this is hilarious to me Edit: How on planet earth did this get 7k likes?!
I just love how book Hermione would panic, it was realistic. You can't be the best at absolutely everything. The trio would always balance each other out in the books.
Ron in the books was the street smart one in the trio. He knows current events, he knew how to navigate the wizarding world at a level that Harry and Hermione couldn't.
This is so true. I can’t even explain it. In the movies, Hermione knew all about the wizarding world, but she wasn’t supposed to. Yeah, she was really book smart, but RON was the one who knew all about the wizarding world. He saved the trio so many times in the books.
Let's not forget the dulcet tones of "DID YE PUT YA NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIYAAAA?" Dumbledore screamed calmly as he shoved the 14 year old boy so hard into the nearby brickwall they both saw stars.
"DID YE PUT YAR NAME IN THAT COBLET OF FIYAR!!!" Dumblore screamed casually as he did a double, triple twist backflip as he roundhouse kicked Harry's head off his shoulders and ate his corpse.
@@threedogsinatrenchcoat6336 "NUM NUM NUM" He casually screeched into McGonagall bloodstained, pale face. The minister for magic shrugged, another day teaching kids. He was surprised they had kept the death toll so low this year, 'perhaps I should show Filch those pop up spikes I got for the Condo in Norway' he wondered to himself, 'those would be great for putting in front of rooms at night, especially those pesky first years, get 'em young and they'll conform no problem'.
One of my favorite Ron moment in the book was in book 4 when Ron and Harry talked for the first time after the long cold shoulder. It was amazing because all Ron did was swearing at the professor about the terrible point he gave Harry and how everyone was fighting the dragon.
@@frogilox9788 as ⬆️ said, yes, EXACTLY! He knew they’d stop him cause they love him, which made it even more impactful, but in the movie, Ron knew but did nothing 😭
I still remember reading "a horrible crack cut the air like a gunshot",totally changed how I perceived that scene, so much more painful to imagine while reading the books than when I watched the movie😰
Is it still from Sirius biting him? Because that also really changes the whole amputation part. Im not even sure if that is in the books, but in the movies with something like a little scratch from playfighting your dog its a joke. But if some dog actually but down hard enough to snap through bone...shit, im surprised the amputation isnt finished already.
@Jannik Sohn Sirius as an Animagus was a really big black dog,I used to think he was a wolf but later reading the books I realised he was a dog,a big one. He was trying to attack Peter Pettigrew who was in the form of a rat which Ron thought was Scabbers amd had put him in his pocket. The whole thing was much more eventful in the books than in the movies...ig they wanted to soften things up a bit for the younger viewers.
@@rupankitamukherjee2639 That dog broke his leg while trying to attack his pocket?! How does that even happen? That had to be many really fucked up bites...
@@rupankitamukherjee2639 Tv and movies are often toned down from the book versions. Same with anime adaptations of manga. It’s probably cause it’s one thing to read it or look at single panels, but seeing it animated or in real life is way different
@DeathnoteBB That's true, but I think the more primary cause is that a whole book,with all its events etc just can't be fit into a 2 to 2.30 hour movie...it's understandable, but that doesn't mean we have to show one character cowardly and foolish and change viewer's perceptions about them,Ron's character arc was more inaccurate than incomplete.Reading this book I understand how much more there is to his character than just being a comic relief.
EDIT: READ THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD BEFORE YOU POST 'bUt GoBlEt Of FiRe'. The movies did Ron dirty in several ways. They portrayed his as stupid, disloyal, and cowardly. Book Ron was Harry's ride or die the whole time. The ONLY time he wasn't at Harry's side was when he was literally being mentally tormented by the soul of freaking Voldemort every time he wore the Horcrux. Did he make mistakes? Sure. He was a teenager in the middle of a war. He had insecurities and hangups and was a teenage boy (and let's face it, all of us are damn stupid during those years), but he was loyal to his friends, brave and honourable, and was always ready to throw hands in Harry or Hermione's defense. Once you were Ron Weasely's friend, you were his friend for life.
Man I hate the movies especially the first ones since that where the problem started. The first director was a hard fan of Hermione and didn't like Ron hence why Ron is like that on the movies
Bro the movies changed so much. When I was younger I tried picking out the little details they changed by reading the book in a week and then watching the movie in tv. Like movie, coward weird characters. Book sassy, bad ass, and attitude
I disagree. We are quite lucky with what we got. Yes, we're not happy about Ron and Ginny and that they left out some stuff and lines. But overall we have a great casting, great music, great locations, great plot. They stuck to the books quite well. You want to redo the movies? You want someone else to play Snape? Hagrid? Vernon? Ollivander? Or all the other roles. Maybe they would give Ron justice. But they would ruin everything else. I can't imagine a better cast for all the teachers, a better soundtrack, a better Hogwarts....
@@LadyArete Draco was much worse in the books and that deleted scene from the movies never happened in the books. The last time we saw him in the books is running towards death eater shouting he is on their side
The whole reason all the weaslys are in gryffindor is BECAUSE they are so extremely loyal amd protective of their own. Harry was practically raised by them so of course that extends to him.
And the fact that in the books professor lupin was explaining half of his childhood as a werewolf and ron was just casually chilling with broken leg was awsome
Yes! Thank you for the reminder of how badass Ron is, it's been so long since I've read the books that I started thinking of movie Ron as canon, and wondering why he was my favorite character. You just re-ignited my love for this character.
I love how in the movie you had Hermione’s hair pulled back, but it the book one it was more similar to how it’s actually described, kinda like how the movies had her hair as described for one movie and then just forgot about it. Idk if that was on purpose but either way it’s kind of funny
I've always kinda felt a bit upset at the fact that she also never had long front teeth. I know little Emma found it difficult to speak with the fake teeth but that plot sort of was important for Hermione's development and her duck to swan metamorphose. Instead we have beautiful Emma come down the stairs princess-like when she was already gorgeous and put together.
@Dreamie Queen Naaah. You can't say 'she never had long teeth' since she had them in one scene (Hogwarts Express) But yeah I agree. But from all appearance changes Harry's not-messy hair bothered me the most. And the fact that he hadn't Lily's eyes. Okay, Dan couldn't wear contact lenses. But they could've at least made sure that Lily's actress had the same eye color. That was SO important.
@@jollyquinn430 the fact that they actively made his hair neat for the ministry of magic annoyed me so much! One of his most described features was his hair always being messy! You even have the really sweet moment between him and Mrs Weasley where she is trying to neaten his hair up but it's not working
THANK YOU!! I've been saying this for years, it always infuriated me when people say they didn't like Ron. It was always so clear to me that they hadn't read the books because if they had Ron would be one of their favourite characters.
They can still say they don't like Ron in the movies. Btw Ron isn't everyone's favorite even if they read the books. I like him. But he's definitely not one of my favorites.
@@jollyquinn430 I can understand that. As you can tell he is one of my favourites but mainly in the books. In my experience and most of the people I have spoken to about Harry Potter that have a sore opinion of Ron base it all off of characteristics he was given in the movies. Which I feel is an unfair assumption. I don't understand the people who don't like him but have only seen the movies because they only have the perspective of a director who very much preffered hermione and made that clear in his retelling of the original series. You don't have to love him and I love people who have read the books who can come at me with reasons they don't like Ron (or any other character) that align with the books more than the movies because the movies did ruin his character massively. But most people I've met that have read the books, even if he isn't their favourite character, they still like him because he's a full person and is generally a more positive and likable person. Unlike the movies where he is whiny to the point of being annoying (which I know he cam be in the books) without having the good qualities to offset that side of him because they were all given to hermione instead.
I don't like ron very much (I've read the books I promise you) he just really gets on my nerves with his constant moaning and how quickly he abandons harry (I also don't like Harry but ignore that for now) in the goblet of fire book. I wouldn't say I hate him but he is definitely not that great of a charecter in the books. He gets jealous so easily and takes that out on the people around him and I don't like the way he tries to control Ginny's relationships. Luna is my favourite character LOL
@@leobeboop4944 The only reason I dislike characters is when they're poorly written. Ron is a brilliantly written character exactly for those character flaws you pointed out. He seems so much more human when we see him do dumb stuff that makes us mad. And then when he overcomes it, we feel satisfied because we saw who he was and who he becomes. All this to say: you can absolutely dislike a character for whatever reasons you want, but if all our characters are perfect from the get-go (never give in to jealousy, hatred, moments of weakness) then the story would be boring.
Books Ron was the friend that you have to take responsibility for when you tell him that your partner cheated and he's already heading out the door with a baseball bat.
Book Ron: "I am a multilayered character, a brave and loyal friend, contributor of street smarts and valuable knowledge on the wizarding world, and the glue that holds the golden trio together" Steve Kloves: "Nah, you're the dumb comic relief tag-along"
It's easy to forget that he's Harry's best friend and Hermione's boy friend. Harry and Hermione get along, but it's almost more like they tolerate each other for Ron's sake
@@gryffindorftw6198 it was an intentional miswrite because he didn’t like Ron. he made ron stupid and cowardly to make hermione smarter and cooler, because she was his favourite character.
“I dreamed I was buying new shoes last night," said Ron. "What d'ya think that's gonna mean?" "Probably that you're going to be eaten by a giant marshmallow or something," said Harry.” These two are gold
More proof that Team Starkid understood the characters better than the moviemakers. At the end of A Very Potter Musical, Voldemort says "who are you going to use as a human shield this time Potter?" and Ron immediately starts to walk forward. Hermione has to pull him back.
I've always seen it like Ron is the James to Harry's Sirius, seeing James welcomed Sirius to his family, just like Ron did to Harry. (Also James fell in love with a smart muggleborn, the parallels!)
@@justaperson6224 Yeah you totally got it, Harry abused childhood has more in comun with Sirius than with james, and James gave Sirius his family as Ron did to Harry.
The scene that PISSED ME OFF was when Harry went to Voldemort to die in Deathly Hallows 2 and Ron doesn’t look remotely upset about it. My man just stood there.
No ron just have lost his brother and he and harry both knew if he have hugged him ron wouldn't let him goo that's why harry nooded his head when he was coming towards him cause he knew what it meant to him
Honestly when I read POA that scene made me burst into tears. I was miffed when Hermione had his lines. Hermione has her own strengths different from Ron’s.
Ron is my favourite character. He is just the most realistic. From being overshadowed and then painted a stupid but actually really smart. Ron is amazing. They painted hermione as a smart intelligent wise goddess and Ron was kicked to the curb
I hated that. Not just because Ron was genuinely a great character, but also because it felt like Hermione wasn't allowed to be the flawed teenager she WAS. Like yes, she was smart and always had a backup plan, but she also got in her own head a lot and was sometimes needlessly cruel over her own morals
The books Harry: *gets in trouble* Hermione: *trys to solve it in the most mature, logical, and safest way possible* Ron: *yeets himself into trouble to try save Harry. Usually a not very smart move.*
The level of your performance is what makes me watch all your shorts when they pop up in on my list ^^ And your take on all characters you play is always so funny and cute
Or that Hermione knew what a “mudblood” was when she literally had no context for that since she’s Muggleborn, and Ron had to explain it. Ooh or even how just before this in the movies Hermione dodges the whomping willow like an action hero, but in the books she’s screaming for help while Harry figures things out.
In the first book, she panics when they come across the Devil's Snare - she knows what to do but doesn't know how to do it until Ron reminds her that she's a witch, damnit, which, in my opinion, makes perfect sense. That does not happen in the movie. Like at all. Don't get me wrong, Rupert Grint played the goofy sidekick well but I wish they let him portray the character a little closer to the book version. Also, remember that one time in the third book where Ron _talked back at Snape_ when he insulted Hermione which, in the movies, was changed to Ron _siding_ with Snape instead? I will seethe about that forever and always.
@April Michel The crazy thing about the devil's snare is that Hermione actually didn't know what to do. She remembered it liked the dark and damp, and it was Harry who told her to light a fire. Hermione was like yeah but there's no wood LMAO! Hermione is my favorite character in the books but jeez the movies did far too much making her near perfect. She has almost no growth.
@@RiseeReeyes such a perfect t example of them WORKING TOGETHER. Hermione with knowledge Harry with ideas and Ron with the encouragement/reality check! And they butchered it 😭😭😭
I think the way they portray the characters different between Book/Movie is the reason my mom told me I should read all the books first and I’m glad I did.
I personally think its the opposite way. If you read the books first, you get angry at the movies for getting it so wrong. If you watch the movies first, you can enjoy the books more when the story turns out even better than you knew.
@@dalehammers4425 That’s one way to look at it and it’s more positive as well but in the end I’d much rather have the proper complete story first than have bits and pieces with something new added in just so I don’t twist up the real thing yk?
Book Ron is not only more loyal but more brave and above all so much more knowledgeable. In the books Ron gives them key Wizarding info many times because he grew up around all the Wizarding world. In the movies it feels like Ron was muggle born too.
One of the many sins against Ron that the movies committed but that really stood out to me was when Snape calls Hermione an insufferable knowitall in POA. Li. The book Ron stands up for Hermione, in the move he says “he’s kind of right you know”; he literally agrees with his and Harry’s worst enemy - which isn’t even in character for the full version. It’s like they had. A vendetta against the character.
Pretty sure at least one screenwriter admitted later that he hated Ron and purposefully gave some of Ron’s best moments to Hermione just to screw Ron over
Hermione and Ron must have meant THE WORLD to Harry. Growing up I didn’t have the best childhood (not as worse as Harry even remotely tho). I had couple of friends in my class and going to school was the only thing I was looking forward to bcz that was my break from reality. Back then I didn’t think much but I would fight for them. Now when I look back I feel so grateful for my friends, they helped me a lot unknowingly and made my childhood better❤
Ron was actually really brave and selfless treated his friends like family in movies he was portrayed more like harry's sidekick that's why i prefer books over movies . In fact A lot of characters were better in books
Also in one of scenes where Snape berates Hermione for answering questions he asked, Ron loudly stands up for her. In the movies, in the same scene they have him agree with Snape.
some days ago, I saw an edit which says Ron will be the one to never leave Harry's grave and the comments were disagreeing, saying "No, it's Hermione" and even "It would actually be Draco" (probably the shippers) and those nonsensical comments had SO MANY likes! I was so mad lol
Hermione is practical and logic driven. Sure she would be sad but she's not going to be the one who will not leave Harry's grave. And as for Draco... Well, they are acquaintances at best. Yeah, it's Ron for sure
That part in the book added so much to Ron’s character
At the time he had a broken leg but despite his pain he stood up for harry
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Literally
Broken leg from when padfoot bit and dragged him to get to wormtail
@@Iris_echos 👍
broken leg
lost mice
terrified by the black dog😻
still stand for Harry😍😍😍
One thing I’ve noticed is that in the books Harry never truly understands Ron’s fear of being last because he was always first in Harry’s life.
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Yess! I was so mad at Harry for being jealous that Ron got Head boy. Like bro, that's your best friend. You have everything you could ever ask for so just let Ron have this!!
@@Chloe_Raine I agree Harry needed to get over the prefect thing, but he definitely did not have everything he could ever ask for. Harry was always low key jealous of Ron because Ron had what Harry didn't - family. And that makes sense considering Harry's upbringing.
@@tbird2249 I absolutely love how layered this is. The boys loved each other first and foremost, but always felt insecure about the things they didn't have that the other did. For Harry, it was family and a loving home life, parents who were alive and actually cared what happened to him. For Ron, it was feeling valued and respected, to not have to worry about money and affording things, to be recognized for his own merits and being good at something that was his. Both boys longed to be "normal" and found that normality they craved in their friendship with each other. Beautiful 🥲
@@Chloe_Raineit’s was also about disreguakted emotions after fresh Trama with a capital T! And his being triggered by dumbledore choice, dumbledore was closest father figure and he chose someone else.
Ron still has my heart from book one where he was explaining duels to Harry and Harry asked what to do if he didnt know a spell or lost his wand and Ron straight up answered "deck 'em"
In all fairness, you need no incantation for a right hook.
@@ikmwrime29sorryaira60 LOLL
that made me laugh lol@@ikmwrime29sorryaira60
Ah yes my favorite spell, catch these hands
I loved that. "What if I wave my wand around and nothing happens?"
"Then throw it away and punch him in the nose"
I like how Ron's leg miraculously started working through the power of inspirational monologues.
It be like that (sorta lol)
Bro turned into a main anime character 💀
Who taught Ron Bardic Inspiration?
And that’s on adrenaline lol
@@The_Weird_One1 Must've been Beetle.
People really forgot how ready Ron Weasley was to straight up throw hands every time someone even looked in Harry's direction in a way he didnt like.
Both for Harry and Hermione
Ron was the true ride or die
he was ready to throw hands for harry and at harry lol
@@-brookebugz- especially at Harry. No one hurts my best friend including my best friend 😂
Ron the ginger guard dog 😭
Even Sirius in that scene was like “Ron bro sit down I’m actually worrying about your leg ANd yourself”
That was the first indication there was more to Sirius than meets the eye - "Kid, please sit down, you're making your leg worse and I'm legit worried about you but super impressed by your loyalty"
Sirius & Ron, the loyal best friend we all wished we had
@@lilyrose0116
Who are dating your other bestie making you a
✨third wheel✨
I just realised all the Potters are 3rd wheels😂😂
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@@normpe2851 who did Sirius date ?
Ron was so much better in the books because he was like a wizarding world encyclopedia, whilst harry and hermione didn't know the ins and outs
But they wanted to simplify the character so they made hermiony the smart dork so ron needed to be something else it seems
Hermione had the book smarts, but Ron had the street smarts.
@@TheIrrelevantYTand Harry had the money smarts
Makes him more intelligent
Exactly! Book Hermione started out more cautious, Ron was the one more willing to risk danger or embarrassment for his friends
It kinda pissed me off. In they second book, Hermione didn't even know what mudblood was, whilst in the movie she makes a whole drama about it. Ron is the one who understands the damage in those words.
My favorite Ron moment was when Percy sent him that bs long letter that warned him to stay away from Harry and Ron was ready to disown his own brother for him.
That’s… the most loyal f*cking thing a friend can do.
@@anonymouscausewhynot Further reason to why if they weren't gryffindors ron would've been a Hufflepuff, hermione a ravenclaw, and harry a slytherin
@@heirofthestarsno because they are all insanely brave one of the main traits of Gryffindors. They also have the loyalty trait it’s just more known as a hufflepuff one. I’m pretty sure the reason Harry is not in slytherin is literally because he didn’t wanna be a bad wizard and he doesn’t do stuff for his own benefit like ever. Which is one of slytherin main traits. Hermione could be in ravenclaw except for how brave she is which, again, would make her more of a Gryffindor
@@Gamamations I totally agree! But I'm saying IF they weren't Gryffidors, each one of the trio represents one of the other houses.
@@heirofthestars I see, I also agree with that
Ron Weasley's first instinct upon his friends coming to rescue him isn't "oh thank gods you're here," it's "you guys need to leave me here, this is a trap, please go before Sirius Black gets you"
i just realized this omg this made my heart melt
Movie Ron “He’s got a point you know.”
Book Ron “You asked us a question and she knows the answer! Why ask if you don't want to be told?"
Always makes me mad!
IKR, book ron was always so defensive and caring for harry and hermione
literally. :(
True, the way Movie's Ron passively antagonizes Hermione (which, granted, was actually an insufferable Ms Know-It-All due to the fact the scenarists wouldn't let her be humble for a breath) was pretty tiring and made the transition to lovers all that more chaotic...
once i saw a funny reddit comment that just went
"hermione: you asked a question and i know the answer! why ask if you don't want to be told?
the class cheered and snape evaporated"
Damn, now it made sens that hermione fell in love with him.
My favorite Ron moment is from book 3 when Snape calls Hermione an insufferable know it all. The whole class gets mad, despite having called Hermione a know it all at least once, and Ron, who called her a know it all about twice a week stands up and says, “You asked a question and she answered it, why ask if you don’t want to be told” straight to Snape’s face. Ron is one of the reasons I can’t go back to the movies after reading the books.
it's so sad how the line they gave him in the film is "he's right you know" (or smt like that).
Fr
The only time i didn't like Snape despite him being the most relatable character to me is when he said this to Hermione or any other instance of him insulting like, she's a kid bro grow up besides she's not one bit wrong, so.
Snape was such a pathetic man. He bullied children because he never got over his own childhood trauma. What happened to him wasn’t fair, but how he treated the kids he taught wasn’t fair either.
@@honinakecheta601 exactly thats why i think he sucks so bad
And the fact that ...... Mermans took Ron as Harry's most precious thing will be always fascinating to me.
I mean, that was his very first friend. He treasured nothing more than that special relationship.
@@KitsunenoHibicouldn't agree more
Heck I would consider my best friend a precious thing too.
Bros before firebolts
Correction: *Dumbledore* took Ron as Harry’s “most precious thing”.
Ron and Hermione were both summoned by Dumbledore the night before the Lake challenge.
What makes me sad is that not only do the movies make Ron seem like the third wheel, they also take away his charm, smarts, and his loyalty. Part of what makes that fight with Harry in the 7th book so devastating is that it is so out of character for him. And that makes the fact that he came back that much more powerful. One of my favorite lines in DH is when Ron says:
"He must have known I'd run out on you."
To which Harry replies:
"No, he always knew you'd want to come back."
Like, his FUNDAMENTAL character trait is his loyalty and bravery, and the movies totally ruined that. They make him seem like a tag-along who is forced to do things "just because," when that couldn't be further from the truth.
Sorry for the Essay, but Ron is my favorite character and the way he was treated in the movies breaks my heart.
I could write this to my English teacher and she’d give me an A+
SAME
Watching movies after reading books is hard for me cus my fav characters arent same
Their is a video about the director talking about the movies and how his favorite character was Hermione and that's why she is portrayed the way she is in the movies because he wanted her to be more of a main character than Ron
the fight in the 7th book made me cry so much. i was devastated, i never thought they would fight and i tried reading the book much faster to the part where they make up.
@@masonguthrie1257 He was a little stubborn and butted heads with Harry a lot because of certain things, which caused him to walk out on the group. But I think the primary reason it’s so important is because he ALWAYS came back, there was not one single time that he didn’t.
Yeah!! They gave Hermione all of his best moments. He was my favourite character and they just turned him into a cowardly oaf.
Same sort of thing happened to Ginny. She was a feisty badass in the books, in the movies she like a walking vegetable.
It was said that Emma Watson accidentally stole Rupert’s lines sometimes, so that could also be why
@@maizymusix Regardless of whether she accidentally stole lines, it's on the director to correct it and have the right final cut. But the director's bias (as stated in behind the scenes clips) for Hermione is ultimately the reason why that was left in, even if it was originally a mistake.
@@maizymusix Part of making him even dumber was that Steve Kloves just flat-out decided to give _all_ of the exposition to either Dumbledore (because he had seen it all) or Hermione (because she read it somewhere). Her finding out about James being a Seeker first in the movie was a bit creepy, and given her character's history (and that the first three books had been released before writing had begun), sadly ironic that she would say "it's in your blood" given how she is treated for hers.
@@wvu05 oooof, that's actually a painful realization for me
We wanted a Jalapeño pepper, but got a bell pepper instead.
Sirius:*Stares at Ron* Is that what I sounded like when I defended James?
Remus:You had some…*questionable* moments…
lmao
THIS IS SO TRUEEA I'M SURE SIRIUS SAW RON AS HIM YOUNGER SELF
Nonono. Sirius asks, "Is this how James defended me in front of Reggie?" Remus is like, "He was just defending his brother from another mother"
Ron Weasley in the books: a brave and loyal friend who is human and makes mistakes. He experiences jealousy and he sometimes says things he doesn't mean, but he's there for Harry.
Ron Weasley in the movies: I have red hair and Hermione says all my lines
YYEEEES! No one talks about that enough when they say how mischaracterized Hermione, Harry, and Ron (and Ginny) are. Especially Ron! Every time o reread books I’m like gahh!! They gave that line to Hermione and that one to Harry amd that one tonH again!!
@@CM-pf1xc My favorite part in the books was when Harry said to make a light, Hermione had a muggle-born moment saying there was no wood for a fire, and Ron reminded her she's a doggone witch. It will forever be a peak trio moment, and the recognition in the comments made me happy.
@@jonquilgemstone I mean, that's the kind of scenes that humbles Hermione down and show that if, yes, she is extremely educated for even a wizard of her age, she doesn't quite _live_ in this world as much as Ron does.
They made him pure comic relief, just goofy faces and dumb mistakes for Hermione to roll her eyes at.
Kill me ☠😭🤧🙈
What makes this even better is in the book Ron had a broken leg, no wand, and was on the verge of passing out and was still ready to throw hands
Not to mention the man went through the first two books with a wand that was canonically almost purpose built to be terrible as a hand me down, which he was given as a hand me down, and was still doing functional magic (if not the highest quality) until the thing got snapped in half and broke completely. And then he finally got a wand that actually *worked* for him, and showed instant improvement, showing that yeah, he was a good wizard, but he was the equivalent of a great repair guy given a bunch of broken tools and no ways to repair the tool quality. In essence, he had a genuine reason to blame his tools.
@@theendersmirk5851 same thing with Neville if I remember right. His broke in book 5 and was a hand me down. Once he got his own personal wand he did a lot better.
One of my fav moments in the series is when Ron brings Harry to the burrow for the first time, and he feels slightly embarrassed because it is chaotic and messy and not like most houses. And Harry just says, "I think it's brilliant."
Yesss and I love that he’s not even trying to be nice he’s genuine because he’s so impressed with the magic and it’s the opposite of the dursleys house
One of the times they did him dirty was in poa when Snape tells Hermione she is an insufferable know it all and in the books he goes off and says “why did you ask if you didn’t want to be told” but in the films they literally just make him say “he has a point you know”
Really?? I haven’t watched the movies many times so I don’t remember. Who the heck made that creative decision and why?!
@@july_juli a question every book fan asks whenever we watch the movie
Why??
@@zoro_is_awesome6905 so true
What did Snape ask and Hermione answers?
@@Freezient snape asks about the difference brtween warewolves and animagus. he was trying to give hints about lupin and sirius.
in the first movie they let Hermione solve the Devil Snare trap completely by herself while Ron is just freaking out but in the books it's Hermione who figures out they need fire but says they don't have any wood and Ron says "Have you gone mad?! Are you a witch or not?!" It's Ron who reminds her she can do magic which saves them. They do him kinda dirty in the movies
Ron wasn't even calm about it, either. The text was literally all caps because he "bellowed" (exact word from the book) as in he yelled his lungs out at her simply for forgetting that she could use magic.
bro i only watched the movies and when i read ron screaming at hermione i could finally better appreciate the fact that they got together in the end
To be fair, that change was a bit more understandable because Hermione's potions trial was cut from the movie. So they needed to find somewhere else to let Hermione shine at the finale.
Devil Snare trial was more of a group effort, so they changed that to be Hermione's trial instead.
Meanwhile, Ron still got his own wizard chess trial later where he could show off his awesomeness.
But I do agree that they should've made Ron act less panicky in the Devil Snare trial. That wasn't cool.
@@Lady_de_Lis They did him dirty in general in the movies, and Hermione got given plenty of Ron's moments from the books.
In the movies he serves as little more than comic relief whereas in the books he is brave, protecting, and is the main anchor of Harry and Hermione to the magic world, do remember that they are both muggle raised.
@@smsebas
Yes, I know. I'm just speaking specifically about the Devil Snare scene. I understand that Ron was done very dirty later in the series, but I don't think the Devil Snare scene is quite as bad as other examples. The only thing they really did wrong was make him act overly panicked during the scene.
They wasted Ginny too. She was shy in the first two books , bur after chamber of secrets she became quite confident , badass and very pretty. She was not the one luring around Harry tieing his shoe laces and putting cookies in his mouth. Harry was the one to initiate the relationship and then she started going out with him.
When does movie Ginny put a cookie in Harry's mouth??
@@ticketyboo2456it was some kind of pie during Christmas at the burrow in Half Blood Prince
This is so true. The movies did Ron dirty.
Btw, thanks so much for doing my request
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The books did Hermione dirty 😶🥲
@@amritanair8519 I mean Hermione figured put how to beat the Potions obstacle in the Philsopher/Sorcerers stone figured out the monster was a Basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets she figured out Lupin was a werewolf in the Prisoner of Azkaban (I'm re-reading the books so I have nothing for Goblet of Fire as of rn but I will have some soon) she put the x's on the doors when they didn't know which direction they came from in the Department of Mysteries in the Order of the Pheonix. And there are many more examples in the last two books but I don't have time. But I'm sure there are many more examples in the books.
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The movies did most of them dirty lol
On a scale of 1-10 how sick would you be if I commented "Master Skywalker what should we do?"
I get that they can't fully flesh out Ron's character in the movies but the fact that they straight up give his coolest moments to Hermione is a crime
That is due to the Screenwriter of all the movies, except Order of the Phoenix. Steve kloves giving all of Rons good lines to Hermione because Hermione was his favorite character in the series
@@StormKingOTHRoadif she’s that good of a character he should be able to make her look cool without giving her another character’s best moments
@@geministargazer9830 he could have left both with their own lines from the books making both look good but he gave all of Ron's good lines to Hermione in order to make her look even better and Ron like a lazy no good attention seeking slacker.
Did the same to Harry to. All his cool moments or intelligence went straight to Hermione.
Ron was also smart in his own way in the books, its why i was so happy that he became a prefect. He literally knew so much about the wizarding world and helped harry whenever he can
No one talks about this enough!! Just like Ginny hercharacter was def better in the books
Oh, Ginny was done SO dirty.
no fr ron and ginny were sooooo much better in the books
*ShOeLAceS*
In one of the conversation between slytherine .pansy told that ginny is liked by boys and very good looking. She is really confident in books .(half blood prince)
Yea
They gave Hermione a lot of Ron's lines too to make her look smarter, but all of the lines about History was originally Ron's. She was supposed to be naturally gifted at school things, but Ron was supposed to be the one that new about all the wizard History because of his wizard family, not Hermione. They really destroyed Ron in the movies and made him a stupid, scared, angry boy when he was actually so loyal, brave, and proud.
He was fr the most Gryffindor of the three.
And for that I somehow feel bad for Rupert Grint, he's made to play a worse version of character many ppl hate. When HP ends, ppl just forget who Rupert Grint is
@@nisa3612 Grint was probably the best actor out of the three and they reduced him to voice cracks and funny faces...
I don't like Hermione for taking Ron Lines 😭
@@mayraaguiar5983 Blame the people who wrote the script
The moment that added more to how close Ron and Harry were had to be the moment in Goblet of Fire when Ron got super pissed at Karakaroff for giving Harry a damn 4 for the first task when all the others gave him close to 10 and Harry didn't care if Karakarofd even if Karakaroff had decided to give him 0 because he now had Ron by his side to look down at the bullies in indignation. And Hermione breaking down after the two made up telling how much she missed their stupidity and banters... I broke down too 🥹
And Sirius was prolly left thinking, "James, if u can hear me up there, your son's in the right hands." Reminded him of James and himself.
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I'm not sure of being like Sirius in school is a good thing.
Sure, he was loyal, but he also nearly killed Snape.
@@IamGrimalkin Harry almost nearly killed Malloy XD
@@oceanussolis1137
Well yes, perhaps, but Harry literally had no clue what that spell did, and also Malfoy was trying to hit him with the Cruciatus curse at the time.
In Sirius's case, he knew what Lupin was capable of as a werewolf; and this wasn't an in-the-moment thing, he planned it.
@@IamGrimalkin ikik. I was just joking ehe~
Movie Ginny: sHoElAcEs
Book Ginny: HeX fIrSt tAlk aFtEr
Yes book ginny is a force of nature
LOL
Yes book Ginny is so strong and with hex anyone who's choses her path
Book ginny is the girl version of Fred and George. She even says that they are her role models
@@Missielou66 she's a savage
Theres a reason the Ron Weasley Bashing tag on ao3 exists… a lot of people, after spending a lot of time in the fandom filled with ppl who only watched the movie, lost sight of who Ron was in the books… a great friend, and one who made mistakes as every human being does, but always tried to fix them ❤
On tv tropes, for fanfic authors there's a similar one "Ron the Death Eater"
Ron was loyal as fuck, that’s why he was a Grifflepuff. Just like Harry was a Grifferin and Hermione was a Griffinclaw
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Love the house mashups so much I read this comment out to my girlfriend /pos
English is not my fist language (the houses have “translated” names here) so for 1 tiny second I thought I had the name gryffindor memorized wrong in English.
Honestly yeah
They really gave Hermione all of Ron’s like cool best friend traits and then looked at Ron and said “you’re now the stupid pig sidekick! No one will question what you bring to the table by Book 7 when you leave! It’s the Harry and Hermione show!”
Omg, I hated that the movies did Ron so dirty! Like, seriously, he was waaaaaaaaaaaay more intelligent than the movies gave him credit for, and I'm just gonna point out one of my favorite book 1 lines:
“There's no wood?” Ron bellowed. “Are you a witch or not?”
Same with Ginny. For Ron and her, they stole all their shine, that's why people who only watched the movies end up shipping Hermione with Harry, it's absurd when you've read the books because it's like shipping siblings...
so truee they even gave a lot ron's line to hermione.
So true. It wasn’t just loyalty. Ron understood Harry didn’t grow up in the magic world like he did so he could easily see himself as the better wizard. He thought he had to protect Harry
“Let’s not start a fight with the serial killer PLEASE… Ron what are you doing?”
Idk why this is hilarious to me
Edit: How on planet earth did this get 7k likes?!
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Lol
I just love how book Hermione would panic, it was realistic. You can't be the best at absolutely everything. The trio would always balance each other out in the books.
Movie Hermione: It’s levioosa not leviosaa.
Book Hermione: I trapped Rita Skeeter in a jar. (Proceeds to violently shake said jar)
omg I'm dead💀😭
LMFAOAOOA
This channel made a different short about that 😂😅
Of course the pronunciation thing was actually in the books too though.
@@IamGrimalkin yeah but it wasn't her entire character like they made it out to be in the movies
Ron in the books was the street smart one in the trio. He knows current events, he knew how to navigate the wizarding world at a level that Harry and Hermione couldn't.
This is so true. I can’t even explain it. In the movies, Hermione knew all about the wizarding world, but she wasn’t supposed to. Yeah, she was really book smart, but RON was the one who knew all about the wizarding world. He saved the trio so many times in the books.
One of my favorite moments is when Ron pushes Lockhart down the chamber of secrets and was like "better him than us" 😂
Let's not forget the dulcet tones of "DID YE PUT YA NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIYAAAA?" Dumbledore screamed calmly as he shoved the 14 year old boy so hard into the nearby brickwall they both saw stars.
"DID YE PUT YAR NAME IN THAT COBLET OF FIYAR!!!" Dumblore screamed casually as he did a double, triple twist backflip as he roundhouse kicked Harry's head off his shoulders and ate his corpse.
@@threedogsinatrenchcoat6336 "NUM NUM NUM" He casually screeched into McGonagall bloodstained, pale face.
The minister for magic shrugged, another day teaching kids. He was surprised they had kept the death toll so low this year, 'perhaps I should show Filch those pop up spikes I got for the Condo in Norway' he wondered to himself, 'those would be great for putting in front of rooms at night, especially those pesky first years, get 'em young and they'll conform no problem'.
You all need to write a book together
@@fernandod4046 Harry pots and the Headmaster of Horrors
I see the AIs are posting their stories to TH-cam for themselves now XD
One of my favorite Ron moment in the book was in book 4 when Ron and Harry talked for the first time after the long cold shoulder. It was amazing because all Ron did was swearing at the professor about the terrible point he gave Harry and how everyone was fighting the dragon.
They gave most of Ron’s best moments to Hermoine.
Gee, it's almost like they went out of their way to make Ron look like a fool and make Hermione look like a girlboss™
I was really upset over the fact that Ron didn’t even hug or get emotional with Harry when he revealed he was giving himself up to Voldy
Omg, i though i was the only one 😭 😂
Well in the books harry doesn’t even tell them he’s going he just leaves because book Ron and hermione would never let him leave
@@frogilox9788 exactly
@@frogilox9788 as ⬆️ said, yes, EXACTLY! He knew they’d stop him cause they love him, which made it even more impactful, but in the movie, Ron knew but did nothing 😭
No fr I was so upset him and Hermione just let him go like in the book they would NEVER
All the Weasleys are completely overlooked in the movies but in the books we see they are ALL very powerful
I still remember reading "a horrible crack cut the air like a gunshot",totally changed how I perceived that scene, so much more painful to imagine while reading the books than when I watched the movie😰
Is it still from Sirius biting him? Because that also really changes the whole amputation part. Im not even sure if that is in the books, but in the movies with something like a little scratch from playfighting your dog its a joke.
But if some dog actually but down hard enough to snap through bone...shit, im surprised the amputation isnt finished already.
@Jannik Sohn Sirius as an Animagus was a really big black dog,I used to think he was a wolf but later reading the books I realised he was a dog,a big one. He was trying to attack Peter Pettigrew who was in the form of a rat which Ron thought was Scabbers amd had put him in his pocket. The whole thing was much more eventful in the books than in the movies...ig they wanted to soften things up a bit for the younger viewers.
@@rupankitamukherjee2639 That dog broke his leg while trying to attack his pocket?! How does that even happen? That had to be many really fucked up bites...
@@rupankitamukherjee2639 Tv and movies are often toned down from the book versions. Same with anime adaptations of manga. It’s probably cause it’s one thing to read it or look at single panels, but seeing it animated or in real life is way different
@DeathnoteBB That's true, but I think the more primary cause is that a whole book,with all its events etc just can't be fit into a 2 to 2.30 hour movie...it's understandable, but that doesn't mean we have to show one character cowardly and foolish and change viewer's perceptions about them,Ron's character arc was more inaccurate than incomplete.Reading this book I understand how much more there is to his character than just being a comic relief.
EDIT: READ THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD BEFORE YOU POST 'bUt GoBlEt Of FiRe'.
The movies did Ron dirty in several ways. They portrayed his as stupid, disloyal, and cowardly. Book Ron was Harry's ride or die the whole time. The ONLY time he wasn't at Harry's side was when he was literally being mentally tormented by the soul of freaking Voldemort every time he wore the Horcrux.
Did he make mistakes? Sure. He was a teenager in the middle of a war. He had insecurities and hangups and was a teenage boy (and let's face it, all of us are damn stupid during those years), but he was loyal to his friends, brave and honourable, and was always ready to throw hands in Harry or Hermione's defense. Once you were Ron Weasely's friend, you were his friend for life.
Man I hate the movies especially the first ones since that where the problem started. The first director was a hard fan of Hermione and didn't like Ron hence why Ron is like that on the movies
@@proximitive3872 Hey, not a director! It was a screenwriter.
Bro the movies changed so much. When I was younger I tried picking out the little details they changed by reading the book in a week and then watching the movie in tv. Like movie, coward weird characters. Book sassy, bad ass, and attitude
The movies took a lot of Ron’s pets and gave them to other characters because the writers and directors thought it would make the story better.
Frrr
“I have nothing to live for, and EVERYTHING TO DIE FOR! FOR SCABBERS, AHHHHHHHHH”
-Ron Weasley
This is why we need a redo of the Harry Potter movies to bring justice for Ron and Ginny
@AreteBott Why? You want that cheesy wand scene that wasn't even in the books?
I disagree. We are quite lucky with what we got. Yes, we're not happy about Ron and Ginny and that they left out some stuff and lines.
But overall we have a great casting, great music, great locations, great plot. They stuck to the books quite well.
You want to redo the movies? You want someone else to play Snape? Hagrid? Vernon? Ollivander?
Or all the other roles.
Maybe they would give Ron justice. But they would ruin everything else. I can't imagine a better cast for all the teachers, a better soundtrack, a better Hogwarts....
Sadly that would just make more money for rowling and that's not ideal
@@LadyArete Draco was much worse in the books and that deleted scene from the movies never happened in the books. The last time we saw him in the books is running towards death eater shouting he is on their side
And Hermione! She deserves to be her flawed self!
Exactly. He was SO freaking gung-ho about that that even SIRIUS was trying to get him to calm down and stay off his injured leg.
That thing when Ron runs his hands over Harry's hairs just like his brothers did to him to show affection🥺❤️
The whole reason all the weaslys are in gryffindor is BECAUSE they are so extremely loyal amd protective of their own. Harry was practically raised by them so of course that extends to him.
Isn't loyalty one of the Hufflepuff traits?
The book show how REAL besties should work:
And the fact that in the books professor lupin was explaining half of his childhood as a werewolf and ron was just casually chilling with broken leg was awsome
Yes! Thank you for the reminder of how badass Ron is, it's been so long since I've read the books that I started thinking of movie Ron as canon, and wondering why he was my favorite character. You just re-ignited my love for this character.
I love how in the movie you had Hermione’s hair pulled back, but it the book one it was more similar to how it’s actually described, kinda like how the movies had her hair as described for one movie and then just forgot about it. Idk if that was on purpose but either way it’s kind of funny
I've always kinda felt a bit upset at the fact that she also never had long front teeth. I know little Emma found it difficult to speak with the fake teeth but that plot sort of was important for Hermione's development and her duck to swan metamorphose. Instead we have beautiful Emma come down the stairs princess-like when she was already gorgeous and put together.
@Dreamie Queen
Naaah. You can't say 'she never had long teeth' since she had them in one scene (Hogwarts Express)
But yeah I agree.
But from all appearance changes Harry's not-messy hair bothered me the most. And the fact that he hadn't Lily's eyes. Okay, Dan couldn't wear contact lenses. But they could've at least made sure that Lily's actress had the same eye color. That was SO important.
@@jollyquinn430 the fact that they actively made his hair neat for the ministry of magic annoyed me so much! One of his most described features was his hair always being messy! You even have the really sweet moment between him and Mrs Weasley where she is trying to neaten his hair up but it's not working
Bet you sirius saw himself protecting James like Ron did for harry in that moment
THANK YOU!! I've been saying this for years, it always infuriated me when people say they didn't like Ron. It was always so clear to me that they hadn't read the books because if they had Ron would be one of their favourite characters.
They can still say they don't like Ron in the movies.
Btw Ron isn't everyone's favorite even if they read the books. I like him. But he's definitely not one of my favorites.
@@jollyquinn430 I can understand that. As you can tell he is one of my favourites but mainly in the books. In my experience and most of the people I have spoken to about Harry Potter that have a sore opinion of Ron base it all off of characteristics he was given in the movies. Which I feel is an unfair assumption. I don't understand the people who don't like him but have only seen the movies because they only have the perspective of a director who very much preffered hermione and made that clear in his retelling of the original series. You don't have to love him and I love people who have read the books who can come at me with reasons they don't like Ron (or any other character) that align with the books more than the movies because the movies did ruin his character massively.
But most people I've met that have read the books, even if he isn't their favourite character, they still like him because he's a full person and is generally a more positive and likable person. Unlike the movies where he is whiny to the point of being annoying (which I know he cam be in the books) without having the good qualities to offset that side of him because they were all given to hermione instead.
I don't like ron very much (I've read the books I promise you) he just really gets on my nerves with his constant moaning and how quickly he abandons harry (I also don't like Harry but ignore that for now) in the goblet of fire book. I wouldn't say I hate him but he is definitely not that great of a charecter in the books. He gets jealous so easily and takes that out on the people around him and I don't like the way he tries to control Ginny's relationships. Luna is my favourite character LOL
@@leobeboop4944 The only reason I dislike characters is when they're poorly written. Ron is a brilliantly written character exactly for those character flaws you pointed out. He seems so much more human when we see him do dumb stuff that makes us mad. And then when he overcomes it, we feel satisfied because we saw who he was and who he becomes. All this to say: you can absolutely dislike a character for whatever reasons you want, but if all our characters are perfect from the get-go (never give in to jealousy, hatred, moments of weakness) then the story would be boring.
Ron was really funny and witty in the books!
Books Ron was the friend that you have to take responsibility for when you tell him that your partner cheated and he's already heading out the door with a baseball bat.
Well, I may want to read the books now
@@voidtectonic you should! Every character is so much better in the books and so much funnier.
It was at this point I knew I could never forgive the movies, but that I would still go see them and watch them like this 😤
Book Ron: "I am a multilayered character, a brave and loyal friend, contributor of street smarts and valuable knowledge on the wizarding world, and the glue that holds the golden trio together"
Steve Kloves: "Nah, you're the dumb comic relief tag-along"
Really goes to show how some filmmakers just see characters as tropes and not three-dimensional people.
It's easy to forget that he's Harry's best friend and Hermione's boy friend. Harry and Hermione get along, but it's almost more like they tolerate each other for Ron's sake
@@BouncingTribbles For me it felt more that Harry and Hermione had the Chemistry Together and she tolerated Ron just for Harrys sake.
@@gryffindorftw6198 it was an intentional miswrite because he didn’t like Ron. he made ron stupid and cowardly to make hermione smarter and cooler, because she was his favourite character.
@@critter5349 A stupid and childish thing to do honestly.
Also the fact that Ron is supposed to be tall & lanky & sassy. A tall, lanky, sassy ginger is my dream guy.
james acaster?
The whole thing about the Weasleys is they will fuck you up and ask questions later on behalf of their squad.
I also love that in the movies, they made Ron out to be the dumb friend, but in the book Ron and Harry both shared maybe one braincell
😂 lmao so true
they shared 2
sorry had to do that joke.
i have to read them again. the last time was at least 5 years ago. longer... maybe 10
True. They wouldn't be alive without Hermione hahaha
“I dreamed I was buying new shoes last night," said Ron. "What d'ya think that's gonna mean?"
"Probably that you're going to be eaten by a giant marshmallow or something," said Harry.”
These two are gold
TRUE
Book Ron: Loyal af, a REAL gryffindor
Movie Ron: Bish tf you in Gryffindor for???
I love Ron in the books when he tries to call Harry but end up shouting at his uncle 🤣❤️✨
I like to think that Ron's relationship with Harry runs parallel with Sirius's relationship with James
More proof that Team Starkid understood the characters better than the moviemakers.
At the end of A Very Potter Musical, Voldemort says "who are you going to use as a human shield this time Potter?" and Ron immediately starts to walk forward.
Hermione has to pull him back.
You nailed it, I've always said that AVPM captured the feel of the books way better than any of the movies did
The entirety of I'm Just a Sidekick in AVPSY encapsulates Ron's character PERFECTLY, in a way the films never ever did
Yeah, some of the moviemakers had a clear (and honestly creepy) obsession with child actress Emma Watson…
The very potter musicals are phenomenal
People don’t understand how alike the golden trio era and the marauder era are… like I am OBSESSED with both so much and I see SO many similarities….
The moment most people realise that Ron is the Sirius to Harry's James.
I've always seen it like Ron is the James to Harry's Sirius, seeing James welcomed Sirius to his family, just like Ron did to Harry. (Also James fell in love with a smart muggleborn, the parallels!)
@@justaperson6224 Yeah you totally got it, Harry abused childhood has more in comun with Sirius than with james, and James gave Sirius his family as Ron did to Harry.
@@justaperson6224 and in the 7th book, Harry thinks he’s a reckless Godfather to Teddy Lupin, like Sirius was to him
I loved that scene in the books. His leg was mangled and he was in so much pain but he still stood up to defend Harry, wandless
wandless 😭‼️
Ron’s spirit animal is definitely a terrier. He is so loyal. The loyal dog.
The scene that PISSED ME OFF was when Harry went to Voldemort to die in Deathly Hallows 2 and Ron doesn’t look remotely upset about it. My man just stood there.
Sameee
No ron just have lost his brother and he and harry both knew if he have hugged him ron wouldn't let him goo that's why harry nooded his head when he was coming towards him cause he knew what it meant to him
Same!!😢😢😢😢
Also with Ginny. She had like no personality at all in the movies, whilst she was a very strong character with actual personality traits in the books
In the movies she was very please come rescue me 🥺 and in the books she was throwing hexes at people that spoke to her or her friends the wrong way
And Sirius is like "Dude...sit down ur hurting yourself"
Honestly when I read POA that scene made me burst into tears. I was miffed when Hermione had his lines. Hermione has her own strengths different from Ron’s.
Ron is the kind of friend we would all be blessed to have.
Ron is my favourite character. He is just the most realistic. From being overshadowed and then painted a stupid but actually really smart. Ron is amazing. They painted hermione as a smart intelligent wise goddess and Ron was kicked to the curb
I hated that. Not just because Ron was genuinely a great character, but also because it felt like Hermione wasn't allowed to be the flawed teenager she WAS. Like yes, she was smart and always had a backup plan, but she also got in her own head a lot and was sometimes needlessly cruel over her own morals
Nothing infuriates me more than Hermione explaining what Mudblood means.
I thought I was the only one! I just fast forward that part
Ron was such a bro-mate in the books, like he was ready to do absolutely anything with and for Harry.
Hermione is just like: “Kill me, fine, just dont let me get expelled.”
The books
Harry: *gets in trouble*
Hermione: *trys to solve it in the most mature, logical, and safest way possible*
Ron: *yeets himself into trouble to try save Harry. Usually a not very smart move.*
The level of your performance is what makes me watch all your shorts when they pop up in on my list ^^ And your take on all characters you play is always so funny and cute
Or that Hermione knew what a “mudblood” was when she literally had no context for that since she’s Muggleborn, and Ron had to explain it.
Ooh or even how just before this in the movies Hermione dodges the whomping willow like an action hero, but in the books she’s screaming for help while Harry figures things out.
In the first book, she panics when they come across the Devil's Snare - she knows what to do but doesn't know how to do it until Ron reminds her that she's a witch, damnit, which, in my opinion, makes perfect sense.
That does not happen in the movie. Like at all. Don't get me wrong, Rupert Grint played the goofy sidekick well but I wish they let him portray the character a little closer to the book version.
Also, remember that one time in the third book where Ron _talked back at Snape_ when he insulted Hermione which, in the movies, was changed to Ron _siding_ with Snape instead? I will seethe about that forever and always.
@April Michel The crazy thing about the devil's snare is that Hermione actually didn't know what to do. She remembered it liked the dark and damp, and it was Harry who told her to light a fire. Hermione was like yeah but there's no wood LMAO!
Hermione is my favorite character in the books but jeez the movies did far too much making her near perfect. She has almost no growth.
@@RiseeReeyes such a perfect t example of them WORKING TOGETHER. Hermione with knowledge Harry with ideas and Ron with the encouragement/reality check! And they butchered it 😭😭😭
@@CM-pf1xc Yes! And that team dynamic made Hermione X Ron make at least a little more sense than in the movies.
@@aprilmichel7816 Yeah Rupert Grint was good casting but he can do more than goofy faces so please let him.
The only moment in the movies we actually got of Ron trying to stand up for himself was the “eat slugs” moment. 😭✋🏽
Can you imagine how proud Sirius was of Ron in that moment when he thought back on it later? ❤
I think the way they portray the characters different between Book/Movie is the reason my mom told me I should read all the books first and I’m glad I did.
I personally think its the opposite way. If you read the books first, you get angry at the movies for getting it so wrong. If you watch the movies first, you can enjoy the books more when the story turns out even better than you knew.
@@dalehammers4425 That’s one way to look at it and it’s more positive as well but in the end I’d much rather have the proper complete story first than have bits and pieces with something new added in just so I don’t twist up the real thing yk?
Book Ron is not only more loyal but more brave and above all so much more knowledgeable. In the books Ron gives them key Wizarding info many times because he grew up around all the Wizarding world. In the movies it feels like Ron was muggle born too.
Ron was ferral. That's why we loved him.
One of the many sins against Ron that the movies committed but that really stood out to me was when Snape calls Hermione an insufferable knowitall in POA. Li. The book Ron stands up for Hermione, in the move he says “he’s kind of right you know”; he literally agrees with his and Harry’s worst enemy - which isn’t even in character for the full version. It’s like they had. A vendetta against the character.
Yea I totally agree.
Pretty sure at least one screenwriter admitted later that he hated Ron and purposefully gave some of Ron’s best moments to Hermione just to screw Ron over
@@jasonhenry8067 that's just sad wtf. Smh hope their dumbass ain't working again
You are the only person reminding me of the actual personalities of these characters.
Book Ron: definition of “FO DA BOIZ”
I adore Hermione of course but it’s so frustrating that they gave SO MANY of Ron’s great character moments to her in the movies.
Ron is a really good friend to happy it's so sweet
Hermione and Ron must have meant THE WORLD to Harry. Growing up I didn’t have the best childhood (not as worse as Harry even remotely tho). I had couple of friends in my class and going to school was the only thing I was looking forward to bcz that was my break from reality. Back then I didn’t think much but I would fight for them. Now when I look back I feel so grateful for my friends, they helped me a lot unknowingly and made my childhood better❤
Ron was actually really brave and selfless treated his friends like family in movies he was portrayed more like harry's sidekick that's why i prefer books over movies . In fact A lot of characters were better in books
The part in the book added so much to Ron’s character
Also in one of scenes where Snape berates Hermione for answering questions he asked, Ron loudly stands up for her. In the movies, in the same scene they have him agree with Snape.
I hate what the movies did to Ron. They dumbed him down too.
Everybody needs a friend like ron
Movie Hermione: gets all of Ron's good lines and traits
Harry and Ron (and the whole fandom): Thanks, Hermione 🙄
avpm reference?
Quintessential Ron moment and it was given to someone else
some days ago, I saw an edit which says Ron will be the one to never leave Harry's grave and the comments were disagreeing, saying "No, it's Hermione" and even "It would actually be Draco" (probably the shippers) and those nonsensical comments had SO MANY likes! I was so mad lol
Hermione is practical and logic driven. Sure she would be sad but she's not going to be the one who will not leave Harry's grave. And as for Draco... Well, they are acquaintances at best.
Yeah, it's Ron for sure
I think both Ron and Hermione would always visit Harry's grave 😢 The golden trio...
Hermione would be planning logical revenge on the cause here let's be honest