Great video mate. I've just ordered my first scooter even tho I Feel a bit self conscious at 61! On the fun side I'm as excited as a 10 year old! Greetings from the UK
Comments like yours are rare, and sincerely wish you great time with the scooter! Pretty sure you will like it a lot, and quite easy to ride too. Also - be careful where you ride it in the UK - there are plenty of restrictions.
Hi Tim, can confirm that uk restrictions would mean that if you use it on the road/paths then the police will confiscate it. They sell similar models at Halfords and that's what I saw on their website. Tried one in America though and it was bloody fantastic. Enjoy yourself safely!
The Rozzers have much more important crimes to solve/deal with, than to concentrate all their efforts on catching people riding scooters. They've got to catch you first🙂anyway. Great review btw, almost made up my mind about buying one and I'm a male of 55.
Hi Tim, I understand the feeling. I'm 62 and bought an M365 last April, purely for the 3 mile commute to work. Was a bit concerned about how I would be viewed, by workmates, family, friends. An old fart out of his comfort zone trying desperately to be cool, or an innovator willing to try new and upcoming stuff. Workmates...loved it. Apart from one manager who told me to stop joyriding around the carpark (I was only riding from the smoking shed to the cycle lock up place, honest). Family....bit concerned, they know I'm daft, but supportive. Friends...same. What we, at our age, have to be aware of is...We're older now and do NOT mend as well as we did, we're not made out of rubber and springs anymore! I've been knocked off by a car, who just do NOT seem to see you even though you're a big guy in a massive hi viz jacket. Broke, BROKE not cracked, 5 ribs, 2 weeks off and £1k lost wages. Hit by a thrown rock to my head, hosp for 6 days, bleed inside skull, broken elbow, massive hip injury, still off work 5 weeks later. Not rubber and springs anymore. Helmet and elbow pads, minimum. But shit, this thing (Now got a etwow gt) is so much FUN!!! Can I ask...what scooter did you get?
Lol I got mine 4 days ago and speed unlocked it to go 30kph/18.6mph and people at red lights are always trying to race me for some reason, it is fking hilarious.
@@Agent-lw3fh Its working fine. But I’ve had to change flat tires two times, and one of the battery cells are flat. So the range is half what it used to be
I have around 710 km on mine, no flats... just city traffic - 80 kilograms loaded, gets up to 27 km/h (like really) - gets up to 18 km in ice-cold weather... (without ice, but sub-zero - in celsius)
@@TechMishka some things I know from some scooter communities. - solid tires (also the ones with holes) aren't good, not because of suspension - but because of vibration damaging battery solder points. - rear light has to be secured against water almost immediately after purchase. Lots of hot glue and a way of reinforcing the blug at the back. - tighten your screws every week if you're a 3-4 day rider of longer routes. - folding lock change every 1000 km... and that's the basic thing next to extensive care of the ball bearings...
@@PriestBonner unscrew the fender, undo the clipped plug under there, hot glue the whole area the cable is in, do shrinking tube under the cable which comes from the battery, rescrew the fender with plugging the rear light back in.
This was a great video, concise, key points, and resources to replace parts. Thanks so much. I think I'm going to buy one. Can't wait to see the PRO version video
Because of this review and his recommendation, I will be ordering any/all parts through curiousjoe.se for my son's new scooter... Thank You for the quality review! (From Prescott Valley, AZ. USA)
The dashboard mod looks nice for the price, I think I'm getting that. I'm not gonna mount my phone on the handlebar, had a Nokia Lumia mounted to my bike few years ago with QuadLock mechanism(best there is) and it just failed due the vibration.
This was such a good video. I myself have bought one partly bacause of your video:) BTW. I have probebly watched this video like 5 times now because its so good.
Hey Herman - this of these comments that make me smile and the feeling is great. Thank you so much. I sincerely hope you will like the scooter and will make a lot of problem-free kilometers.
- Herman - does it work? I really want an electric scooter bc it would make the commute to school way easier but I don’t want to spend too much money if it’s not very effective
I have a steel one, in red color which looks awesome and is tight as fuck! I got it from a shop in my city specialized on these scooters! I wish I could post a picture
I used to have the M365, had a punctured tire then had the folding ancre broken... replaced it for stronger one but it didnt really fit well and then I had lot of issues with the soldering point of the battery,. at the end it completely broke down so i bought a bike :p BUT after your video on the Kugoo S1...i am thinking about it :)
The Kugoo S1 in no way feels of better quality than the M365. The problem is that batteries are still too expensive. A friend of mine is going to release a chopper-like scooter - which is extremely durable (three units are being tested on a daily basis on the roads of Sofia, and the quality of roads here is not good at all). The price is however twice the M365. When he showed me all the details of his work, the origin of parts and so on - well - at the end of the day it looks like "you get what you pay for" is sort of right. Still - the M365 is so far unbeaten in terms of bang for the buck. p.s - so sorry about the experience you got. Bikes rock!
Are they inflatable 😇? If there are any 10-inch solids, I will give it a try; Will never ever run air-filled tires on our roads here. If we had nicer alleys and roads - would have been a different story.
I just rode mine in the rain yesterday from work to my truck. Me and my scooter were soaked but it never missed a beat. but as far as traction... it gets iffy and I have air tires front and rear.
Michael..Great video ... I've had my M365 coming on to two years now and yes there have been punctures, but i get less now because i cut an old inner tube to fit around a new inner tube , also i dont use my phone for info now, i have fitted an M365 OLED dashboard th-cam.com/video/5V0O234T_bE/w-d-xo.html definitely the best mod to the scooter . One thing i did do right at the start of ownership was to insert foam between the inside battery cover and batteries to prevent any movement at all , i have had no problems whatsoever . Lastly for the total removal of stem movement at the joint i cut out plastic from a old loyalty card.. cost - zero , effectiveness - 100% .. i don't fold my scooter anymore so i used a large cable grip and threaded it into the hinge handle , rock solid .... after almost 2 years ownership .... extremely happy with my scooter :) .
I've nearly hit 1000km and have yet to experience a puncture. I've heard that a lot of people have had punctures, but despite accidentally rolling over broken glass on a few occasions, and using it on less than perfect cycle tracks, I've had no issues.
You have just been lucky so far but you will get a flat one day. I had 2 flats on my ghost and i only had it 6 months so i have a solid tire coming now.
Is the guy in the background at @12:26 breaking for a 2nd lol. As to the scooter.. 1st gen is really lacking power and we should be straight about it, if you are 90kg+warm clothes in cold weather+rucksack with your lunch and laptop for work any hill is a nightmare. It should be 500W nominal power motor with some decent peak power allowing 120kg load just in case you get fat not walking anymore ;)))
Someone else noticed that guy a day ago, and I can't stop laughing, as the movements are exactly right for ... you know. But the guy was a photographer. He was making photos of a bottle of whiskey.
I bought a M365 exactly one year ago and I really like it. Here in Los Angeles several companies used this model originally for their rental fleet. For awhile I was a Mechanic for Bird so I was able to completely take apart everything many times which helped me learn how to fix my own. All the rental companies have cut off the foldable hinge mechanism and have replaced it with a rigid collar (but it makes the pole a few inches shorter). I also bought some merchandise from Curious Joe and his products are top notch. His cover for the little hook on the rear fender is fantastic. Last week I upgraded the firmware to version 1.5.1 and it also upgraded the bluetooth modules firmware which now blocks all third party apps including M365DownG so I can't flash/downgrade the bluetooth back to ver 072. I believe you mentioned that their is a way to downgrade back which I'd love to hear about.
I have seen a tutorial about that in the M365 facebook group - and it didn't look that beautiful. www.spzshop.com/blogs/best-practices-and-tutorials-for-m365/update-xiaomi-m365-1-5-1-and-ble-0-81-be-careful-there-is-the-solution?fbclid=IwAR3S7t9Do24lJYeZQwEufjYm49DjhteGhuOwtErZMKoED_nUw6vDtHn9L2w
Thanks but the St-Link looks too risky and complicated for me. I'm just going to wait until someone decrypts the new bluetooth code (hopefully its Camilo Ruiz).
ALWAYS ALWAYS LOOK FOR SCOOTER WHOSE BATTERIES WILL CUT ITS CHARGE WHEN ITS FULL. Like seriously take this advice. Overcharging batteries are extremely deadly. Battery fire is no joke.
@@TechMishka According to Segway, the Ninebot Kick Scooter MAX resolves most of the m365 flaws, and the best thing about it is the range, 40 miles = 64km! Looking forward to upgrading my existing m365 for it hehe! 😁👍
@@TechMishka You thinking of pre-ordering it for a review? I'm still waiting for someone to review it whether it is the true successor to the m365 & the ES4.
@@gtone339 It is too expensive for my current budget possibilities, so I am in touch with Segway to see my options to get a test unit for a while. But overall it is in the priority list :-)
I'm way over 1000 km and never blew a tire. I do ride rough terrain all the time, but rear bumper felt off due to that ... so installed reinforcements. With proper technique of jumping and lifting your weight from scooter when jumping on curb or any uneven surface, you can protect the tires from the stress.
I really really really like the electric scooter m365 made by xiaomi, which makes me love to go out by riding. So far, I've been working on better accessories for it, like these solid tires, link: amzn.to/2u98XwF. With the solid tires, you don't have to worry about the tires getting a puncture on the gravel road anymore, lol. Although safety comes first, I prefer the smooth ride.
Big advantage of the Xiaomi M365 is the wide availability of replacement parts. Also the motor is actually capable of 500 W output but only limited to 250W by the software. Heavier riders can tweak it to optimize acceleration and speed. I'm using full solid tires without the small holes and the soft rubber material is a good compromise for ride quality and durability. For harsher riding conditions it is a very good idea to place a vibration dampening between the battery cover and the heavy battery or the soldered battery contacts are going to break for sure.I purchased the scooter in 2017 and used it for 3200km so far.
@@TechMishka yes but i'm a bit ashamed of having said that :) typical cliché of the extreme consumer who as no regard for waste and ecology :) so no, I should also learn to repair/upgrade my stuff. thanks for the video ;)
Hi, I live in China and was thinking to get these Xiaomi scooter bikes from the store in person ? .but..........my weight is 223lb ad I am a bodybuilder. Does it say on the box or manual what the max weight it can take ? Before I had bought a low end bike similar to the xiaomi but it doesn't use lithium battery but I forget something else and the bike battery lasted me 3 months from using it 2 miles a day x 6 days a week.
Your weight is fine for that, just at the maximum supported. The Scooter can handle even more, but not that recommended. |As for batteries - I have mine for more than an year and still works fine; Furthermore - it is very easy to find replacement batteries.
I've had one of these for about 1 month now. I got rid of my car about a year ago and have solely relied on public transportation since then. This scooter has totally changed my freedom for the better! I bring it on buses, trains and can do 'the last mile' so much easier now.. I even buy groceries with it which is a total of 16 kms back and forth. Absolutely love it so far. I think I'm getting that sticker kit for mine as well.
I live in Stockholm sweden. There are bike lanes and separate bike trails all across the city, the network is great for getting around by bike. Out where I live though I need to scoot on the side of the main road but it works just fine!
I agree with ya. This scooter was one of the best options. I already drove 850km :D As i got a flat on my rear wheel i tried the enhanced solid tire version. People say it harmes the battery tho due to vibrations... Nethertheless, I also installed a parallel battery for range extension. Thats a great info regarding the fender holder! So, I will do another two experiments: First i will install some heatingpads for the battery so they dont loss that much capacity, Secondly, I will change my dashboard to the obviously compatible m365 pro display. :)
Great video! I wanted to ask you how much steps you did before you get the scooter and now? Did it affect your health? Thanks in advance for the answer
I guess Russian speaking since you can see in the video when he showed the firmware customization site, you see he already clicked on Russian language, and see he mentioned he is based in Bulgaria so my guess is he either Bulgarian or Russian
Good review. I wondered how scooters held up over time. Where I live the roads are too fast so a scooter is not practical but I have visited cities that have rental scooters all over. They are both fun and practical. It would be great for the environment to have them in all cities, replacing most cars.
The problem with folding mechanism is a big one and I believe that you should talk more about it and explain how to correct it. Thanks again for the nice video
Thank you for the note, Αγγελος Μπεληγιάννης. I was thinking of adding more around the mechanism, but since I didn't do that myself, I've decided to keep it away from the review. SO far my unit is rock-solid, although I ride it in Sofia, Bulgaria, where roads and bike lanes are ... special 😎
I've done over 330 miles on mine and I have made no modifications to the folding mechanism. It was "loose" out the box. I think that it is on purpose. Also I once accidentally rode mine without locking the folding mechanism and it never collapsed on me. I think that says a lot about how strong the mechanism is and that the concerns may be overblown. @@TechMishka
Really nice review! I wish it was about the Ninebot ES :) coz I own one. I think it would be more perfect if you talk about something to put it on the description, here I mean the replacement Tyre, custom firmware and so. Keep up the good work ;)
I hate seeing people scratching wheels while fitting tyres. I guess if you're not also a cyclist then you probably don't know you can buy plastic levers with metal inside - so they are strong, but damage the wheel :)
Trust me, I hate that too... But didn't have the right tools to prevent it at that moment. And also, I will re-paint that part of the wheel, so it will soon look like brand new.
So, is the reason that the battery cover from curious joe is really good is only because it is easy to clean? Other reviewers mentioned things about the batteries not getting rattled and connections breaking.
Yes, I have seen such comments and was concerned about mine as well. But I had no issues for more than an year, and the battery seemed to be very well fitted, with no possibility to jump inside. Also - the Curious Joe plate has a bit thicker foam which seems to help too.
Have one with already 1000km on it since April. Running as smooth as first day. No draining issues, still holding the same range speed and acceleration. 👍 Also fun to go around cities. With 70Kg it runs at 26,6km/h on flat
Excellent feedback, and very useful, thank you very much for that! May you ride many more problem-free kilometers with the same degree of enjoyment! 😉😇
I had mine for whole 2 weeks, problem was I weigh over 100kg and I guess it was engineered with intent that it would be used by little Chinese schoolgirls. it literally wont go up any hill, top speed is low, acceleration is lackluster, range is more like 10 km, every bump is spine shattering. Still, I had fun, its a weird sensation to stand up and ride without any effort, and I liked how you can fit it into cars trunk, would have one again if they made one for grown ass men, definitely more of a weekend toy not a reliable daily transportation but that's fine, just gotta know what you're getting into
It will get better in time. Acceleration is indeed limited and feels like it if you are around 100, but you will get used to extracting more out of it. Supporting with kick-movements will help too.
Great video. I see how the folding piece is a concern, how about a 6inch long pipe, split long and hinged, that fits around the folding mechanism and locks in place for running...
Sounds like a good fix. I have rencently been to Barcelona and there have been a lot of scooters for renting - all of them had the folding mechanism disabled.
The solid rubber tires are slightly easier to change , you say? But if they’re solid rubber , then no puncture is possible, right? Why would you need to change them? Wearing them out? Confused
I just bought The folding mechanism joint delux version from curius joe is awesome. I bough the first option like brand new, my xiaomi have more than 200km and it fits perfectly but i take care a lot. There is different wear size. Its totally smooth and a silent ride, i love it. Is kinda rubber piece, not just a hard plastic cover. Thanks for that adress !
since you already had 200km or more maybe as of today, can you comment on the longevity of youroriginal battery? How many battery have you gone through for 200km already?
Hi what’s up with your scooter today? Thanks for your great video, done with real facts and for your tips about Escooter products, so thank you, Greetings from Geneva, Switzerland, Pascal
I have an ebike with regenerative braking. The charge it generates is negligible, and it slows you down when you stop pedaling, forcing you to keep pedaling wasting energy at places where you would normally coast such as going down a bridge. The net result is negative.
The stock firmware is not 500W max. If you download the app M365 tool you can see or record data of your ride. Mine has peak over 600W with stock 1.4.2 firmware. Today I plan to try 800W with custom firmware. This scooter is awesome looking forward to the PRO :).
@@TechMishka Sure with stock 1.4.2. I had slightly over 600W with full charged battery. Now I tried firmware created with botox and peak is 800W. The acceleration and hill climbing is awesome now :-).
Hi. I bought for three days ago and mine is updated with the 1.4.2. firmware. I live in Italy and if you believe me, at my second charge, I did it twice 40 km. But my weight is 59 kg. I drive in a big town making many stops, at night with the light on too. The only problem I had was on the brake ...it had a small imperfection, but I have solved it bending the disc to the opposite direction a little. Now to say I am happy is reductive!!! I would never buy the pro version because it weights 2 kg more than mine. I put also a belt so now is very comfortably portable. Fantastic!!!
Tech4All No problem, I have the solution to increase your battery autonomy and to gain more kilometres: Join a Muay thai gym and start training hard at least two hours a day....ahahahaha joke! Thanks a lot for your videos!
I was lacking the battery range and the power, so I added a second battery and wrote a guide on how to do it. Now the scooter really has the kick and lasts twice as much. You can check the guide here: medium.com/@andriiliakh/installing-additional-battery-on-xiaomi-mijia-m365-a8782f3b75b0
I am a freshman, i need a mode of transportation inside the city thats faster than walking a lot of my freinds have a electric scooter, thanks for this vid😊
Those tires, particularly the lack of any crown are incorrect for an electric vehicle. You want to have as little contact with the road surface as possible.
Yup, I came to realize this. Not too easy for a normal built tall guy to get lighter, cut my hair and nails maybe. I'm not fat. Anyways. bought a xiaomi 360, just tested it a short distance, was rainy. felt like the same speed a public Lime scooter had, maybe slightly slower.
@@MindGem if you're just slightly over 100 everything is okay with most scooters which are taken care of. But if you're more into the 110-120s, it's becoming harder. Just that you always have to help with hills. Even me at light 75 kg...
Sometimes it is hard to get lighter, unfortunately. The M365 will be fine with weight arounf 100KG. It will be fine even with more, however not that much when you are uphill, especially with battery level below 60%. The more you ride, the better you will get used to acceleration and getting the most out of its power.
I dont understand how people puncture tires on these so easily. I have mine for around 350 km and have no puncture and i also ride on terrain, a few times i have accidentally went through glass etc and nothing. Its a great scooter in my opinion its much more stable than other ones and much much better that my previous one.
I can tell you! 😎👍 Bad roads + bad maintenance. I believe three out of my four flat tires are because I was not keeping them at the right pressure. The first days after I released the video I got a few comments criticizing a lot the solid tires. And started to analyze "why". And figured that out quite easily - it is mostly due to the roads - if you have proper streets - it is unlikely the tires to wear off soon. However if they are continuously stressed by bumps - the situation changes. I will certainly not go back to the inflatables... But am considering tubeless + slime for my next round.
@@TechMishka Weird, because i live in Slovakia 🇸🇰 where roads are terrible af. Theres sometimes glass, metal pieces etc on the roads and sidewalks and they are bumpy af. Maybe im just lucky. Thanks for the video im really considerung the vibration pads for the folding mechanism because i feel like i will fall apart when going through our roads :D
Great video mate. I've just ordered my first scooter even tho I Feel a bit self conscious at 61! On the fun side I'm as excited as a 10 year old! Greetings from the UK
Comments like yours are rare, and sincerely wish you great time with the scooter! Pretty sure you will like it a lot, and quite easy to ride too.
Also - be careful where you ride it in the UK - there are plenty of restrictions.
Hi Tim, can confirm that uk restrictions would mean that if you use it on the road/paths then the police will confiscate it. They sell similar models at Halfords and that's what I saw on their website.
Tried one in America though and it was bloody fantastic. Enjoy yourself safely!
The Rozzers have much more important crimes to solve/deal with, than to concentrate all their efforts on catching people riding scooters. They've got to catch you first🙂anyway. Great review btw, almost made up my mind about buying one and I'm a male of 55.
Hi Tim, I understand the feeling. I'm 62 and bought an M365 last April, purely for the 3 mile commute to work. Was a bit concerned about how I would be viewed, by workmates, family, friends. An old fart out of his comfort zone trying desperately to be cool, or an innovator willing to try new and upcoming stuff.
Workmates...loved it. Apart from one manager who told me to stop joyriding around the carpark (I was only riding from the smoking shed to the cycle lock up place, honest).
Family....bit concerned, they know I'm daft, but supportive.
Friends...same.
What we, at our age, have to be aware of is...We're older now and do NOT mend as well as we did, we're not made out of rubber and springs anymore!
I've been knocked off by a car, who just do NOT seem to see you even though you're a big guy in a massive hi viz jacket. Broke, BROKE not cracked, 5 ribs, 2 weeks off and £1k lost wages.
Hit by a thrown rock to my head, hosp for 6 days, bleed inside skull, broken elbow, massive hip injury, still off work 5 weeks later.
Not rubber and springs anymore.
Helmet and elbow pads, minimum.
But shit, this thing (Now got a etwow gt) is so much FUN!!!
Can I ask...what scooter did you get?
StevieSpain D who cares what anyone thinks!
Got mine 4 days after ordering. Been using it for a week, every day. I've not had this much fun in YEARS
That just made me go out for a ride 😉👍 Cheers to that!
10 month past could you tell us the current state of the scooter?:p
Lol I got mine 4 days ago and speed unlocked it to go 30kph/18.6mph and people at red lights are always trying to race me for some reason, it is fking hilarious.
@@Agent-lw3fh Its working fine. But I’ve had to change flat tires two times, and one of the battery cells are flat. So the range is half what it used to be
@@michaelespeland 15km range? And one gone?
I have around 710 km on mine, no flats... just city traffic - 80 kilograms loaded, gets up to 27 km/h (like really) - gets up to 18 km in ice-cold weather... (without ice, but sub-zero - in celsius)
Awesome achievements.
I recently saw a post by a spanish girl that weighs 60kg and she managed to reach 39 kilometers in her second ride.
@@TechMishka some things I know from some scooter communities.
- solid tires (also the ones with holes) aren't good, not because of suspension - but because of vibration damaging battery solder points.
- rear light has to be secured against water almost immediately after purchase. Lots of hot glue and a way of reinforcing the blug at the back.
- tighten your screws every week if you're a 3-4 day rider of longer routes.
- folding lock change every 1000 km...
and that's the basic thing next to extensive care of the ball bearings...
@@paradonym thanks for the tips!
DerParadonym how did you secure your rear light against rain?
@@PriestBonner unscrew the fender, undo the clipped plug under there, hot glue the whole area the cable is in, do shrinking tube under the cable which comes from the battery, rescrew the fender with plugging the rear light back in.
Honestly, this was the best review I've ever seen for this scooter. Very helpful. I've also ordered accessories from the site you provided. Thanks!!
I am so glad to see your comment! 😎👍 Thank you very much! A lot of passion and energy there, and it is totally worth.
I'm about to buy this! Any recommendations for a beginner? Thanks.
This was a great video, concise, key points, and resources to replace parts. Thanks so much. I think I'm going to buy one. Can't wait to see the PRO version video
Thanks Alex - very positive words, much appreciated!
Nice video. Greetings from Romania :)
Thank you Cmo3003 . Warmest regards to Romania!
thanks bro! I love your english! we dont even speak that well here! this is the scooter our city has and it's good to see this.
I'm glad it is understandable. Not sure I got this right - you say that you also live here, in Sofia?
You are awesome! So professional. Thanks for contribute with good reviews!!
Wow, look who's here! Great that you've noticed the video - we seem to be forming a small fan-club. Keep it up, Joe! 😎👍
Because of this review and his recommendation, I will be ordering any/all parts through curiousjoe.se for my son's new scooter... Thank You for the quality review! (From Prescott Valley, AZ. USA)
The dashboard mod looks nice for the price, I think I'm getting that. I'm not gonna mount my phone on the handlebar, had a Nokia Lumia mounted to my bike few years ago with QuadLock mechanism(best there is) and it just failed due the vibration.
In a similar way the good old Lenovo K910 broke. Big time 👍😎
Putting the dashboard mod uses battery
Awesome detailed honest review Mihail!
“ _Affordable and Reliable_ “
Well said for a xiaomi product😌👍🏻
Guess this is how we can describe most of them.
Although I use a lot of Xiaomi devices, I still have some trust issues 😎😇
sounds like you sell them?
This was such a good video. I myself have bought one partly bacause of your video:)
BTW. I have probebly watched this video like 5 times now because its so good.
Hey Herman - this of these comments that make me smile and the feeling is great. Thank you so much. I sincerely hope you will like the scooter and will make a lot of problem-free kilometers.
- Herman - does it work? I really want an electric scooter bc it would make the commute to school way easier but I don’t want to spend too much money if it’s not very effective
Among all others, this review was the only one I downloaded, complete and very easy to understand, although English isn't my native language.
Jean-Pierre Gagnon , hat down - thank you so much for that comment! It is a huge energy- and inspiration booster.😎😇👍
I really wish somebody would make a steel hook for the folding bit. I would feel much more confident that it won't come apart while I'm at full speed.
I have a steel one, in red color which looks awesome and is tight as fuck! I got it from a shop in my city specialized on these scooters! I wish I could post a picture
Nice scooter.
Put the tires in hot water, if you want them to be softer during replacement.
The hot water makes them more flexible to handle.
Thanks epSos - will be trying this next time, thanks!
+1 for curiuousjoe and their upgrade pack !
Yup, outstanding quality indeed.
Mine's a year old as well. Tires should be solid from the ground up.
Agreed! Two reasons less to worry about. 😎
I agree
Any issues with battery soldering and overall build with the “quality” of the ride with solids?
I used to have the M365, had a punctured tire then had the folding ancre broken... replaced it for stronger one but it didnt really fit well and then I had lot of issues with the soldering point of the battery,. at the end it completely broke down so i bought a bike :p BUT after your video on the Kugoo S1...i am thinking about it :)
The Kugoo S1 in no way feels of better quality than the M365.
The problem is that batteries are still too expensive. A friend of mine is going to release a chopper-like scooter - which is extremely durable (three units are being tested on a daily basis on the roads of Sofia, and the quality of roads here is not good at all). The price is however twice the M365. When he showed me all the details of his work, the origin of parts and so on - well - at the end of the day it looks like "you get what you pay for" is sort of right. Still - the M365 is so far unbeaten in terms of bang for the buck.
p.s - so sorry about the experience you got. Bikes rock!
You should try the 10 inches tires, my 365 is sooo much confortable now !
Are they inflatable 😇? If there are any 10-inch solids, I will give it a try; Will never ever run air-filled tires on our roads here. If we had nicer alleys and roads - would have been a different story.
where do u get them from?
Can you the ride the m365 in the rain? Would it damage the battery compartment or seep through?
you can, but it i wouldn't recommend it. it doesn't damage the battery but the traction loss is definitely scary. plus you'd be soaking wet haha
I just rode mine in the rain yesterday from work to my truck. Me and my scooter were soaked but it never missed a beat. but as far as traction... it gets iffy and I have air tires front and rear.
Michael..Great video ... I've had my M365 coming on to two years now and yes there have been punctures, but i get less now because i cut an old inner tube to fit around a new inner tube , also i dont use my phone for info now, i have fitted an M365 OLED dashboard th-cam.com/video/5V0O234T_bE/w-d-xo.html definitely the best mod to the scooter . One thing i did do right at the start of ownership was to insert foam between the inside battery cover and batteries to prevent any movement at all , i have had no problems whatsoever . Lastly for the total removal of stem movement at the joint i cut out plastic from a old loyalty card.. cost - zero , effectiveness - 100% .. i don't fold my scooter anymore so i used a large cable grip and threaded it into the hinge handle , rock solid .... after almost 2 years ownership .... extremely happy with my scooter :) .
Awesome and precious info, thanks a lot skeelo69 . Two years is quite some time - do you already notice some battery performance decrease?
@@TechMishka no degradation in battery performance...rock solid.
How did you guys fix the puncture issue? I have puncture and its super hard to replace a tire
@@kh5322 Patience. And get someone to help you.
Slime could be used for prevention next time.
What is the average lifespan of a scooter? Can it last for a year with 12KM run per day?
Where do you put your scooter when you go to public places?
I carry it with me. Haven't found a decent lock so far.
Good question. I wanna get one for my school yet no idea where to put it.
I either push it next to me or fold it. It's a conversation starter.
If I can't take it inside, can use a dlock thru the back wheel to a pole.
I've nearly hit 1000km and have yet to experience a puncture. I've heard that a lot of people have had punctures, but despite accidentally rolling over broken glass on a few occasions, and using it on less than perfect cycle tracks, I've had no issues.
You have just been lucky so far but you will get a flat one day. I had 2 flats on my ghost and i only had it 6 months so i have a solid tire coming now.
@@demonocusmetalocus3558 2,800km on my M365 and no puncture. Must have got good tyres and tubes I guess
Welcome from Bulgaria!
Is the guy in the background at @12:26 breaking for a 2nd lol.
As to the scooter.. 1st gen is really lacking power and we should be straight about it, if you are 90kg+warm clothes in cold weather+rucksack with your lunch and laptop for work any hill is a nightmare. It should be 500W nominal power motor with some decent peak power allowing 120kg load just in case you get fat not walking anymore ;)))
Someone else noticed that guy a day ago, and I can't stop laughing, as the movements are exactly right for ... you know. But the guy was a photographer. He was making photos of a bottle of whiskey.
Give those tires a review on amazon. To help others. Nice vid.
I didn't order them from Amazon, so I probably cannot leave any feedback. I bought them from a local retailer here.
Duuude sick mods. Now my electic tape rainbow isnt looking half as cool lol
I bought a M365 exactly one year ago and I really like it. Here in Los Angeles several companies used this model originally for their rental fleet. For awhile I was a Mechanic for Bird so I was able to completely take apart everything many times which helped me learn how to fix my own. All the rental companies have cut off the foldable hinge mechanism and have replaced it with a rigid collar (but it makes the pole a few inches shorter). I also bought some merchandise from Curious Joe and his products are top notch. His cover for the little hook on the rear fender is fantastic.
Last week I upgraded the firmware to version 1.5.1 and it also upgraded the bluetooth modules firmware which now blocks all third party apps including M365DownG so I can't flash/downgrade the bluetooth back to ver 072. I believe you mentioned that their is a way to downgrade back which I'd love to hear about.
I have seen a tutorial about that in the M365 facebook group - and it didn't look that beautiful.
www.spzshop.com/blogs/best-practices-and-tutorials-for-m365/update-xiaomi-m365-1-5-1-and-ble-0-81-be-careful-there-is-the-solution?fbclid=IwAR3S7t9Do24lJYeZQwEufjYm49DjhteGhuOwtErZMKoED_nUw6vDtHn9L2w
Thanks but the St-Link looks too risky and complicated for me. I'm just going to wait until someone decrypts the new bluetooth code (hopefully its Camilo Ruiz).
Did anybody else lose the little gummy part for folding the scooter?
I did lol
I often do, but keep a few spares. 🙃
Very happy with mine. nearly 200km, few modes, very concensius and take care of the tire bars, screw few time in the folding mecanism and thats it
That will certainly turn into 2000. Enjoy! 👍
Really helpful for someone who is going to buy
Using oil near tires and breakes is crazy, for that silicon spray exists!!!
Thanks Klaus.
ALWAYS ALWAYS LOOK FOR SCOOTER WHOSE BATTERIES WILL CUT ITS CHARGE WHEN ITS FULL. Like seriously take this advice. Overcharging batteries are extremely deadly. Battery fire is no joke.
Абе брат ако не беше казал че си тукашен нямаше да се сетя много добър английски
Еми :-) Малък свят! 😊
Беше ми доста полезен благодаря
Видеото е супер - обаче бях убеден, че е правено в UK - акцента е трепач направо - поздравления!
@@svetlinsimeonov6485 Благодаря за подкрепата! 🙃 Ще има и още
Time to upgrade to the Ninebot Kickscooter MAX: www.indiegogo.com/projects/ninebot-max-ultimate-electric-scooter-by-segway#/
Yeah, saw it the other day and it is ... wooooowww!
@@TechMishka According to Segway, the Ninebot Kick Scooter MAX resolves most of the m365 flaws, and the best thing about it is the range, 40 miles = 64km! Looking forward to upgrading my existing m365 for it hehe! 😁👍
@@TechMishka You thinking of pre-ordering it for a review? I'm still waiting for someone to review it whether it is the true successor to the m365 & the ES4.
@@gtone339 It is too expensive for my current budget possibilities, so I am in touch with Segway to see my options to get a test unit for a while.
But overall it is in the priority list :-)
@@TechMishka Great! Looking forward to it. 👍🛴👌
I'm way over 1000 km and never blew a tire. I do ride rough terrain all the time, but rear bumper felt off due to that ... so installed reinforcements. With proper technique of jumping and lifting your weight from scooter when jumping on curb or any uneven surface, you can protect the tires from the stress.
Very good advises, thank you for that! And wishing you many more problem-free kilometers.
I really really really like the electric scooter m365 made by xiaomi, which makes me love to go out by riding. So far, I've been working on better accessories for it, like these solid tires, link: amzn.to/2u98XwF. With the solid tires, you don't have to worry about the tires getting a puncture on the gravel road anymore, lol. Although safety comes first, I prefer the smooth ride.
Big advantage of the Xiaomi M365 is the wide availability of replacement parts. Also the motor is actually capable of 500 W output but only limited to 250W by the software. Heavier riders can tweak it to optimize acceleration and speed. I'm using full solid tires without the small holes and the soft rubber material is a good compromise for ride quality and durability. For harsher riding conditions it is a very good idea to place a vibration dampening between the battery cover and the heavy battery or the soldered battery contacts are going to break for sure.I purchased the scooter in 2017 and used it for 3200km so far.
3200! Respect! 👍😎
Any ideas how to bypass the software block?
@@homursumpsen8748 not quite easy with the 1.5.1...
so much trouble for 400 euros. i just bought one, when it breaks i'll just fucking buy another one
Sounds fair! 😇👍
@@TechMishka yes but i'm a bit ashamed of having said that :) typical cliché of the extreme consumer who as no regard for waste and ecology :) so no, I should also learn to repair/upgrade my stuff. thanks for the video ;)
I got this scooter for my Birthday
Happy birthday! And enjoy a lot riding it 🙃
Hi, I live in China and was thinking to get these Xiaomi scooter bikes from the store in person ? .but..........my weight is 223lb ad I am a bodybuilder. Does it say on the box or manual what the max weight it can take ? Before I had bought a low end bike similar to the xiaomi but it doesn't use lithium battery but I forget something else and the bike battery lasted me 3 months from using it 2 miles a day x 6 days a week.
Your weight is fine for that, just at the maximum supported. The Scooter can handle even more, but not that recommended.
|As for batteries - I have mine for more than an year and still works fine; Furthermore - it is very easy to find replacement batteries.
I didn't know you are Bulgarian. Поздрави от Софето
Благодаря! :-) Да се връщат поздравите!
I've had one of these for about 1 month now. I got rid of my car about a year ago and have solely relied on public transportation since then. This scooter has totally changed my freedom for the better! I bring it on buses, trains and can do 'the last mile' so much easier now.. I even buy groceries with it which is a total of 16 kms back and forth.
Absolutely love it so far. I think I'm getting that sticker kit for mine as well.
Well said! It does change habits. Happened the same to me.
In which part of the world do you live? Are there enough bike lanes?
I live in Stockholm sweden. There are bike lanes and separate bike trails all across the city, the network is great for getting around by bike.
Out where I live though I need to scoot on the side of the main road but it works just fine!
@@simonolofsson7488 Og, that's a terrific city for people that like bikes. Enjoy a lot riding your Mijia! :)
Yes!!! Can't wait for more videos about it!
Hahaha anche tu qui caro?
Uh guarda un po'
Hover-1 is the Xiaomi killer..
Yeah, might be!
Thanks for the video. These are gold tricks! Greetings from Turkey!
Warmest regards back to Turkey! 😎👍
Are you taking a shit in the woods at 12:30?
Eeerrrrr 🤭😇
I agree with ya. This scooter was one of the best options. I already drove 850km :D As i got a flat on my rear wheel i tried the enhanced solid tire version. People say it harmes the battery tho due to vibrations... Nethertheless, I also installed a parallel battery for range extension.
Thats a great info regarding the fender holder! So, I will do another two experiments: First i will install some heatingpads for the battery so they dont loss that much capacity, Secondly, I will change my dashboard to the obviously compatible m365 pro display. :)
Firestar have a link for the battery? :)
Great video!
I wanted to ask you how much steps you did before you get the scooter and now?
Did it affect your health?
Thanks in advance for the answer
It affects that, yeah. But I try to use the scooter more instead of driving the car. It is mostly up to you.
Got one the other day. Only took me 12KM in 12C weather. I weigh in at 102kg
Not happy about the reach at all.
I get double. I weigh 65.
It gets better in time - the more you get used to the way it works, the better range you will get.
Great video, just picked up the ninebot es4 for the wife and love it, check out our review and ride videos. Thanks!
Thanks Kevin, great idea, let me check that right away.
Are you dutch?
You kinda have a dutch accent, but your english is really good!
Thanks Yannis! Always looking to improve.
I guess Russian speaking since you can see in the video when he showed the firmware customization site, you see he already clicked on Russian language, and see he mentioned he is based in Bulgaria so my guess is he either Bulgarian or Russian
@@mateuszkowieski4557 I am Bulgarian; ALthough Russian is not too different, I can't speak it. I can see a lot of slavic people around :-)
I’m from Bulgaria too and you and me the are only Bulgarians I’ve seen with such a good English accent so far 😭
😎
Good review. I wondered how scooters held up over time. Where I live the roads are too fast so a scooter is not practical but I have visited cities that have rental scooters all over. They are both fun and practical. It would be great for the environment to have them in all cities, replacing most cars.
@IWillBeRichSomeday What country is yours?
@IWillBeRichSomeday Surprising. I wouldn't have guessed.
ha! i install those tires with only two screw drivers. no oven tricks, no cable ties
You are a powerful man 👍😎😻
The problem with folding mechanism is a big one and I believe that you should talk more about it and explain how to correct it. Thanks again for the nice video
Thank you for the note, Αγγελος Μπεληγιάννης. I was thinking of adding more around the mechanism, but since I didn't do that myself, I've decided to keep it away from the review. SO far my unit is rock-solid, although I ride it in Sofia, Bulgaria, where roads and bike lanes are ... special 😎
I've done over 330 miles on mine and I have made no modifications to the folding mechanism. It was "loose" out the box. I think that it is on purpose. Also I once accidentally rode mine without locking the folding mechanism and it never collapsed on me. I think that says a lot about how strong the mechanism is and that the concerns may be overblown. @@TechMishka
Great coverage compared to other similar videos.
Really nice review! I wish it was about the Ninebot ES :) coz I own one. I think it would be more perfect if you talk about something to put it on the description, here I mean the replacement Tyre, custom firmware and so. Keep up the good work ;)
I hate seeing people scratching wheels while fitting tyres. I guess if you're not also a cyclist then you probably don't know you can buy plastic levers with metal inside - so they are strong, but damage the wheel :)
Trust me, I hate that too... But didn't have the right tools to prevent it at that moment. And also, I will re-paint that part of the wheel, so it will soon look like brand new.
So, is the reason that the battery cover from curious joe is really good is only because it is easy to clean? Other reviewers mentioned things about the batteries not getting rattled and connections breaking.
Yes, I have seen such comments and was concerned about mine as well. But I had no issues for more than an year, and the battery seemed to be very well fitted, with no possibility to jump inside.
Also - the Curious Joe plate has a bit thicker foam which seems to help too.
Tech4All Thanks for the reply! I ordered mine just yesterday.
Which electric scooter is the best to 700$?
Have one with already 1000km on it since April. Running as smooth as first day. No draining issues, still holding the same range speed and acceleration. 👍 Also fun to go around cities. With 70Kg it runs at 26,6km/h on flat
Excellent feedback, and very useful, thank you very much for that! May you ride many more problem-free kilometers with the same degree of enjoyment! 😉😇
@@TechMishka Hi! May I ask what is the average lifespan of a scooter with 12KM run per day?
@@jamesbenedict9750 Hard to say. Depends on multiple factors. These batteries are supposed to last for at least 500 cycles.
@@TechMishka Thank you for your response. 🙂
@@jamesbenedict9750
You should get at least 10,000km before needing to change batteries
Segway Ninebot is the best! That's why I'm ambassador for it in the Netherlands! :)
Even if its illegal, LOL
Illegal in the Netherlands? OMG! Why?
Добро видео! Благодаря за информацията :))
Yes mate
I had mine for whole 2 weeks, problem was I weigh over 100kg and I guess it was engineered with intent that it would be used by little Chinese schoolgirls. it literally wont go up any hill, top speed is low, acceleration is lackluster, range is more like 10 km, every bump is spine shattering. Still, I had fun, its a weird sensation to stand up and ride without any effort, and I liked how you can fit it into cars trunk, would have one again if they made one for grown ass men, definitely more of a weekend toy not a reliable daily transportation but that's fine, just gotta know what you're getting into
It will get better in time. Acceleration is indeed limited and feels like it if you are around 100, but you will get used to extracting more out of it. Supporting with kick-movements will help too.
Excellent honest review
Saif ali
Great video. I see how the folding piece is a concern, how about a 6inch long pipe, split long and hinged, that fits around the folding mechanism and locks in place for running...
Sounds like a good fix. I have rencently been to Barcelona and there have been a lot of scooters for renting - all of them had the folding mechanism disabled.
Very informative and well done review, Thank you
Thanks Steve! 👍😎😻
The solid rubber tires are slightly easier to change , you say? But if they’re solid rubber , then no puncture is possible, right? Why would you need to change them? Wearing them out? Confused
I was getting a lot of punctures and decided to replace them. ALternatively you can use slime.
I just bought The folding mechanism joint delux version from curius joe is awesome. I bough the first option like brand new, my xiaomi have more than 200km and it fits perfectly but i take care a lot. There is different wear size. Its totally smooth and a silent ride, i love it. Is kinda rubber piece, not just a hard plastic cover. Thanks for that adress !
Great to hear it is of help. I didn't know Joe already has a mechanism "cure". Will order one for myself too 👍
since you already had 200km or more maybe as of today, can you comment on the longevity of youroriginal battery? How many battery have you gone through for 200km already?
For your reference, the trolley wheels, use M365 vertically.
th-cam.com/video/co3fruJVrH8/w-d-xo.html
This is crazy! 😎😇👍
Wow, great video! There is a lot of info. Really helpful, Thanks!!!
Glad it helps, Raymond. Thank you for your kind words! 👍😎
In 2019 I am hesitating if buying this one is worth.
Great video man.
It still is, of course, especially at these good prices; There now is the "Pro"-version too 😎
me 110 kilo 22 km/h 21 KM have now around 960 km in one year
Great achievement, Lukas. and great range.
@@TechMishka yes and this on the bad german way´s XD
Hey Lukas. Are You enjoying it? I wonder if it will be ok for me too to use it going to work etc.
Поздрави за канала! Доста неочаквано, че е български канал, ама изненадата беше доста приятна! :) Успех!
Хубаво е, когато изненадите са приятни. И аз много се радвам като видя коментари от България. Сърдечни благодарности! 🙃
Solid long term review, very pertinent, cheerw
Explained very well , think I'll buy the pro version also
The Pro is indeed great!
You're a hell of a good reviewer
Thanks Mohamad! Always doing my best, and hope to be getting better and better 🙃
Dirty mohammed
Do you think it’s worth spending €280 on a scooter if your a 15 year old and just want it for fun and not transport?
No, I don't think it is worth doing that. But - if you have no other choice, this one is among the best at that price. 🙃
Hi what’s up with your scooter today?
Thanks for your great video, done with real facts and for your tips about Escooter products, so thank you,
Greetings from Geneva, Switzerland, Pascal
Hey Pascal, warmest regards to Geneva - one of the loveliest areas in the world! 🌞
The scooter hasn't been out this week due to the rainy weather.
@Wanted Marshmallow It affects me - I want to be smiley and not to be cold under rain :D
I made my full options in a first week i have my pro2 , solid tires, suspensions Memorim
Maybe you mean Monorim? Nice mods!
Looking forward to your review of m365 PRO :)
How is it that electric scooters can have Regen brakes but barely any e-bikes have it?
This here is mostly marketing - it is not as effective as we wish. But yeah - pretty cool 😎
I have an ebike with regenerative braking. The charge it generates is negligible, and it slows you down when you stop pedaling, forcing you to keep pedaling wasting energy at places where you would normally coast such as going down a bridge. The net result is negative.
@@MrSegmentfault which bike is it?
@@ubacow7109 Sparta Ion GL plus. Regen can be enabled via the menu.
idubbbz really nailed that European accent in this video
The stock firmware is not 500W max. If you download the app M365 tool you can see or record data of your ride. Mine has peak over 600W with stock 1.4.2 firmware. Today I plan to try 800W with custom firmware. This scooter is awesome looking forward to the PRO :).
Wow, that sounds a lot! Is the 600W possible with the stock firmware too?
@@TechMishka Sure with stock 1.4.2. I had slightly over 600W with full charged battery. Now I tried firmware created with botox and peak is 800W. The acceleration and hill climbing is awesome now :-).
@@TechMishka You can create your own FW here m365.botox.bz
@@TheDownloader86 SOunds like a great option for a heavier person like me 😎👍 Thanks a lot!
@@TechMishka watch this tutorial ;) th-cam.com/video/UvhUkQHst1g/w-d-xo.html
Hi. I bought for three days ago and mine is updated with the 1.4.2. firmware. I live in Italy and if you believe me, at my second charge, I did it twice 40 km. But my weight is 59 kg. I drive in a big town making many stops, at night with the light on too. The only problem I had was on the brake ...it had a small imperfection, but I have solved it bending the disc to the opposite direction a little. Now to say I am happy is reductive!!! I would never buy the pro version because it weights 2 kg more than mine. I put also a belt so now is very comfortably portable. Fantastic!!!
Awesome 👍😎😇 Wow, 40 kilometers! I believe you - your weight is fantastic for that scooter. Must feel awesome.
Tech4All No problem, I have the solution to increase your battery autonomy and to gain more kilometres: Join a Muay thai gym and start training hard at least two hours a day....ahahahaha joke! Thanks a lot for your videos!
So well presented Michael. Looked at a few of these vids and your is so good, good information. Loved the accessories bit too.
Glad you enjoyed that, and thanks a lot for your kind comment. 😇Hope to see you around more often! 👍
I was lacking the battery range and the power, so I added a second battery and wrote a guide on how to do it. Now the scooter really has the kick and lasts twice as much. You can check the guide here: medium.com/@andriiliakh/installing-additional-battery-on-xiaomi-mijia-m365-a8782f3b75b0
Thanks Andrew - very useful and detailed.
One introduction is good. Two introductions wastes my time
Point taken, thanks for the note.
I am a freshman, i need a mode of transportation inside the city thats faster than walking a lot of my freinds have a electric scooter, thanks for this vid😊
Right about time to get one of these - summer is coming! 😎
Those tires, particularly the lack of any crown are incorrect for an electric vehicle. You want to have as little contact with the road surface as possible.
Yes, you will then have a whooping 0.2% additional autonomy
your Video is nice to bad you don't put and share all the links to what you talk about in the description.
Hey Eran - if you are looking for something specific - please let me know. It is hard to keep all links up to date on all videos all the time.
Great video. Your thoughts on the Ninebot ES4?
It is awesome!
I need to know which scooter is recommended for a 100kg guy cus all public scooter company bikes I've tried can't push me over the smallest hill.
Sorry to say: get lighter.... Almost every scooter is set to sub-100s...
Yup, I came to realize this. Not too easy for a normal built tall guy to get lighter, cut my hair and nails maybe. I'm not fat. Anyways. bought a xiaomi 360, just tested it a short distance, was rainy. felt like the same speed a public Lime scooter had, maybe slightly slower.
@@MindGem if you're just slightly over 100 everything is okay with most scooters which are taken care of. But if you're more into the 110-120s, it's becoming harder. Just that you always have to help with hills. Even me at light 75 kg...
Sometimes it is hard to get lighter, unfortunately.
The M365 will be fine with weight arounf 100KG. It will be fine even with more, however not that much when you are uphill, especially with battery level below 60%.
The more you ride, the better you will get used to acceleration and getting the most out of its power.
30km =18.6 miles ?
Yes, something like that.
Is your Google broken?
It's 30 km why worry about that old illogical system?
Thanks
Perfect review!
Thanks👍
Most welcome GKHN GKR
I have a Question is 350€ a good price for this one or did you get it Cheaper?🤔
It is a pretty good price! Used to be a lot more expensive some time ago...
Tech4All Okey thank you for the tip😊👍🏼
thank you
I dont understand how people puncture tires on these so easily. I have mine for around 350 km and have no puncture and i also ride on terrain, a few times i have accidentally went through glass etc and nothing. Its a great scooter in my opinion its much more stable than other ones and much much better that my previous one.
I can tell you! 😎👍 Bad roads + bad maintenance. I believe three out of my four flat tires are because I was not keeping them at the right pressure.
The first days after I released the video I got a few comments criticizing a lot the solid tires. And started to analyze "why". And figured that out quite easily - it is mostly due to the roads - if you have proper streets - it is unlikely the tires to wear off soon. However if they are continuously stressed by bumps - the situation changes.
I will certainly not go back to the inflatables... But am considering tubeless + slime for my next round.
@@TechMishka Weird, because i live in Slovakia 🇸🇰 where roads are terrible af. Theres sometimes glass, metal pieces etc on the roads and sidewalks and they are bumpy af. Maybe im just lucky. Thanks for the video im really considerung the vibration pads for the folding mechanism because i feel like i will fall apart when going through our roads :D
Nice rewiew. I love the green woodpecker laughter at 1:27