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Mr. Beat tells the story of the Vietnam War, the most controversial war in American history. Here is a less censored version: • The Vietnam War, Expla...
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0:00 Introduction
3:00 War in Vietnam (1945-1946)
4:27 First Indochina War (1946-1954)
10:27 Increasing American Involvement
15:26 The War Expands
35:29 Legacy of the Vietnam War
The Vietnam War was the longest war in American history up to that point, only surpassed by the War in Afghanistan in 2021 lasting six months longer. The war dramatically hurt the reputation of the United States. It hurt…uh…the UNITED STATES quite a bit, too.
Today, the Vietnam War is seen as pointless. A big freaking mistake, based on lies, that led to millions of innocent people dying. It was a civil war that many say the United States had no business being a part of. Unlike the Korean War, the United Nations wanted nothing to do with it.
This video is demonetized and might be age-restricted, but the heck with it.
I released it, anyway. I have censored it so much already.
The less censored version can be found here: th-cam.com/video/GLB6qbJ4jb0/w-d-xo.html
I think I'm done covering wars for awhile.
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Would you say that it could be interesting if a "Presidents, and how many people died because of the president's actions and (miss)handlings" comes someday?
PS: Congratulations to 1M!
Thank you Mr. Beat. I'm 19 and when I see a vet I thank them, but I really thank them if they were in Vietnam sometimes you can tell they want to tear up, some ask not to be thanked. It was so hard for them, so psychologically taxing. My neighbor is a Vietnam vet and since I love history I've always wanted to ask him about it, but I know he was sent home on injuries, and to this day he has bad PTSD. This was one of the toughest and most controversial wars that our country has been into (that really didn't need to happen).
Congrats on 1M Mr. Beat!!
i understand how frustrating this must be and i havent watched the vietnam one yet (cant wait), but know that the iraq war one was amazing and so important. thank you for your work. i hope that youll continue doing long form videos like this in the future. all the best from germany
You’re a real trooper Mr. Beat, excellent work
I really don’t understand why YT censors history channels but not channels that actually spread disinformation. Smh
“It’s kind of like the government telling you that there’s no war crimes, and then you get on TikTok and see the war crimes. And then the government bans TikTok.”
So much respect for saying this, Mr. Beat. Thank you.
But CHINA, your supposed to be afraid of CHINA and other buzzwords.
Tiktok should still be banned because it corrupts the minds of the youth. Of course certain horrific crimes are happening, but the app still ought to be banned.
Wat war crimes is he referencing I seriously don’t know can someone enlighten me?
@@bobfind9151 99% sure he’s referring to Palestine
@@bobfind9151 it’s implied he’s talking about Israel and Palestine. Mitt Romney recently admitted that a major reason for the TikTok ban happening now is the prevalence of TikToks that are pro-Palestine or criticize Israel.
"The one thing they don't prepare you for in war is the incessant use of Fortunate Son"
"I'd hear that song whenever i was in a helicopter."
some folks r born made to wave the flag they r red white and blue
Just wait until they get you with ‘The End’ and T.S. Eliot.
This may be the first Vietnam War video to not feature that song...
“The one thing they don’t prepare you for with Vietnam content is the incessant use of this same joke”
1-2-3-4, What are we fighting for? Don't ask me, I don't give a damn. Next stop is Vietnam.
“Hey hey LBJ how many kids did you kill today?”
Next stop is Ukraine.
Land of the free, amirite?
@@lukejolley8354 At least that wouldn't be the silly containment policy
Country Joe and the Fish…..love it!
Nothing screams "fight for freedom" more than not having the freedom to choose if you want to fight
Freedom ain’t free
@@klonicke9911yeah cause some can pay to not fight
Former Vietnam war protester who enlisted in the USAF because WWII vets said I didn’t know what I was talking about saying the government was covering up what was actually going on. Good to see your video. Thanks!
How was it back then? I recently interacted with a viet war vet and he said the protestors were "cowards" it was honesty shocking..
What we’re they saying if you don’t mind me asking? Usually you don’t hear that perspective from WWII vets, it’s interesting. My grandfather served in WWII and my uncle in Vietnam, but by my grandpa never spoke about it and my uncle passed away during the fighting. I keep researching and listening to veteran’s stories trying to learn and understand what they went through.
Lots of people were dying and I guess young people didn’t want to lose their lives for a cause they couldn’t get behind. To this day, I feel it was a needless war, but many of my peers don’t agree with me and would consider protesters, cowards. I think the protests helped show the coverage of the war and shape public opinion against it…so, a win there.
@anon2427 he was father of my history teacher and was around 60 but pretty much he said "I did not do anything I would regret and I tried to help" responding to the mai lae massacre questions as he condemned the unit that did it. He also admitted that the reason for the beginning of the war "may have been a lie" I don't remember much of everything else as he started talking about recent events defending the U.S involvement in other nation affairs and politics of today
Thanks for sharing that. You were right. You were bloody right.
When I was in 9th grade, I chose to write an essay about the Vietnam War, as I didn’t know much about it and wanted to know more. The further I got into my research the more appalled and disgusted I was. The things people experienced were truly horrific. Thank you Mr. Beat for educating people about this very important subject. I feel that not enough people understand the horrors that happened during the war.
Thanks for watching and sharing that!
Sure hope you're talking about the terrorism the north did and how the north started the war and surrendered to America and failed their objective of conquering south vietnam.
@@Robert-hy3vv Cope
The North Vietnamese must have been much worse, because South Vietnamese still love everything and anything American - despite all the terrible things that happened during the war.
I’m in a relationship with a Hmong woman and she taught me the whole reason why that ethnic group is now here in America. During the Vietnam War, there was also the Secret War in which the CIA used the Hmong people to fight against the Viet Cong. In payment of fighting against them, the CIA helped the Hmong people immigrate to America. I’d love to see you make a video on this proxy war within the whole Vietnam War. Or how other groups were paid into fighting.
The CIA doing illegal secret wars? No way, they would never.😂
@@thebeermaster34 Do you think they're in charge?
Can confirm this story being near Castle AFB in the late 80s and my Neighbors being Hmong…. I was very little but remember all of these stories first hand.
There's a whole rabbit hole regarding the hmong involvement in the Vietnam War. If you just look up Vietnam War and add hmong to the search, you'll find a lot of things about them. Every single hmong household has a story regarding the Vietnam War and is truly amazing to learn about. An video example would be Hmong Story 40: Documentary on Galen Beery
My pop-pop was a soldier in the Army during Vietnam, he never fought in the war itself because he was honorably discharged due to an injury. He died three years ago at 72. Rip, 9/11/49-1/9/21.
Respect to your pop-pop
@@iammrbeat Thank you
R.I.P for your grandpa🙏
Crazy to think that some baby boomers are dying...respect to your pops but wow. Man...72 is too young.
My dad said his uncle fought the only reason he knows is because of the “trophy’s” he has from the war aka EARS
My FIL fought in Vietnam and we talk about every now and then. He definitely has suffered with PTSD. He still can't handle being in crowds, especially airports. He's almost 80 now. It's crazy how long reaching the effects of trauma can go. He's done well for himself at least considering all that. He's one tough dude. Thanks for making this Mr Beats.
I'm glad he's done well considering all of the trauma. Thanks for sharing that and thanks for watching!
How many children did he kill
@@eamonnkeenan3771 very insightful comment
@@eamonnkeenan3771I bet he didn't went there on his own will. Blame the ones who sent them there.
@@josecipriano3048 Heard a lot of that at Nuremberg
My neighbor in Spanaway, WA asked me to help him find some of his war records. Being in the Army I said sure. Turns out he didn’t have US war records. I found out this man was a Commando during the war. He lost his jaw when he was hit in the face with a rocket, and spent 3 years in a reeducation camp after Saigon fell. He was awarded a US Bronze Star, and the National Archives have his records. I’ve fought in 2 wars on 4 different occasions over my 20 years of service. I’ve never felt more inadequate than I did when I found out the caliber of man who was asking me for help.
His experience wasn't unusual. During the Nixon Administration the V.A. decided to save money by refusing to acknowledge that several groups of men who had fought with (or in) the U.S. military were not "veterans" within the meaning of U.S. veteran benefit laws.
Thanks for sharing that and thanks for your service to our country.
3 days before my exam on the Vietnam War and this comes out, all hope is not lost
YASSS
And unfortunately, oversimplified doesn't have a video on the Vietnam war, so it's good Mr. Beat uploaded this
@@noodle5283 We are still waiting for that Oversimplified Vietnam video. He has us waiting more than One Piece fans.
My mom's side of the family was a big army and military family. I have ancestors that have fought in every war from 1812 up until Vietnam. Vietnam changed everything.
My mom's oldest brother fought in Korea and in Vietnam. After his second tour, he told my grandparents everything that happened. My grandparents did everything possible to make sure their two younger sons didn't get drafted. One spent a long time in medical school, the other lucked out that Saigon fell a few days before his 18th birthday.
Your family history is very important. Thank you for sharing.
25:00 good timing with this video. So many americans are ignorant to the fact that we are seeing a repeat of the vietnam war protests on college campuses and create a laundry list of reasons why their money must be spent on suffering.
:)
Today's American college students shouldn't have to worry about being drafted into a war in Gaza. A lot of people aren't protesting for their life, they are just protesting misguidedly for an Islamic theocratic deathcult that has killed as much Palestinians or Arabs as they did Israelis.
The timing is not a coincidence. Mr. Beat rocks!!
The suffering started way before US involvement
Genuinely what do those protests help with besides just angering people?
I am a 20 man from Texas. And most of my later academic journey was ruined due to covid 19 and other aspects in life. I appreciate your video essays and lovely style of teaching. Thank you @mrbeat
I wish all 20 of you the best of luck
I'm glad the videos help you learn some history. Thanks for the kind words!
Ah, tienes 20 anos? Impressive ...
@@NonTwinBrothers what?
My Grandpa fought in it. I wish I could still talk about it with him.
My grand uncle Roger served in Vietnam, all I know is he smoked weed, survived an explosion, and got herpes. Pretty badass. Sorry for your loss.
Forever greatful my grandpa let me pick his brain and ask questions even though they were very painful experiences. One thing to read about it, another thing to talk to someone who was there. I love him dearly for sharing those experiences wifh me.
Respect to your Grandpa
Same scenario here; I feel you.
I've got a few Australian mates who fought in Vietnam and they very rarely talk about their experiences there. Only recently has my friend Gordon opened up about his two tours of duty. It has shaped and informed his life. Veterans deserve our respect and compassion 🙏.
My dad and his cousin were both drafted. His cousin was killed and my dad came back messed up mentally and physically. Thank you for bringing up how the rich got out of going.
They made your family ruin to enrich the rich.
This afternoon, I took the AP US History exam. To relax, I went on TH-cam and despite not really having an appetite for anything history at the moment, I put on this video because why not. I'm glad I did, Mr. Beat never fails to present multiple perspectives on every issue he discusses. Thanks for all you do, Mr. Beat!
Heh! I was worried I would literally get no APUSH kids watching this, especially I expected y'all to be sick of learning about American history at this point. Thanks for sharing this. It meant a lot.
@@iammrbeat as an apush kid i feel like a lot of us just want to learn about america more!! all my classmates are saying they’ve never felt so patriotic 🫡🇺🇸🦅
@@iammrbeat i am about to take my apush exam next week and this video really helped me reinforce a lot of what i learned in my class (key phrases emphasized, broader ideas contextualized, overall attitudes of the era etc.) i feel like these types of videos are a lot more beneficial and engaging to students, as compared to having to pore over textbooks and pages of dense notes, so thank you.
It is honestly insane to me the frequency with which I still run into people in real life and online that say "America was the good guys!" or "America won the Vietnam War!" when like pretty much any reading that doesn't come directly from the government will tell you otherwise in both cases. I enjoyed this video.
Good guys is a matter of opinion but "won" seems pretty ignorant.
North Vietnam had to wait for the US to end their involvement.
Even the North’s biggest military action the Tet Offensive was a huge blunder resulting is massive casualties. The difference is that the North did not have to answer to the people they govern. They could throw bodies away aimlessly without repercussions. You don’t hear about the atrocities committed by the Northern government compared to My Lai which was a rare unique and horrifying incident. You hear the constant propaganda that Uncle Ho wasn’t really a communist and wanted to be like American revolutionaries. So compared to the northern communist government I’d say yes, the US was way better. And I’d say the US didn’t lose the way so much as it lost interest.
@@PLandericus What the US did to Laos is 50x worse than anything that the North Vietnamese did to anyone. I will never understand why Americans just see the word "communism" and immediately lose their minds and all reason goes out the window.
@@PLandericus they lost interest because they weren’t winning easily. So I guess it’s just a way for the US to save face by saying they lost interest.
As a Vietnamese who subscribed to your chanel for a long time, thank you for making this video
Us Vietnamese, we don't care about communism or capitalism, America, China or Russia, we just wanted freedom. Even today, we might be a " communism " country, but we are different compare with China and Russia
As an American I hope Vietnam has long lasting freedom. And I apologize for what my country did. ❤️🇺🇸🇻🇳
@@PremierCCGuyMMXVI No need for that mate. War happened. We fought so many nations before to protect our country. We can't held a grudge on everyone haha. Right now Vietnam and America relationship is pretty good, which is nice to see
@@datbui6009 Greetings from the United States of America to Vietnam! 🇺🇸❤️🇻🇳
Đúng vậy 💯
I’m an American history teacher and something that’s always fascinated me about Vietnam was how much influence our founding fathers had on Ho Chi Minh. My uncle served in Vietnam and he said that was the biggest waste of time ever. Several of my relatives have suffered from the side effects from agent orange exposure.
I went to Afghanistan. You didnt miss much. I came away jaded, angry and with a nasty case of PTSD, which took me years to stabilize.
Watching the widraw from Afghanistan on TV was heartbreaking, to say the least since i knew we should have been out of there at least a decade prior.
Im an 02 grad btw but didnt commission until 07, through ROTC.
I'm sorry you had to go through all that. I appreciate your service.
It's now happening with Ukraine and Russia.
People appreciate your sacrifice, even though that random TH-cam comment means nothing of course. Yeah, we should have never been there in the first place, but the withdrawal should have happened in 2009. It’s a shame that it didn’t happen. Us finally pulling out was the most alpha, total BOSS move that a president has taken in foreign policy in decades, and my life time. Uncle Joe totally defeated the military industrial complex, and the mainstream media, even the so-called “liberal media” (that doesn’t actually exist) freaking out and criticizing him because he pulled out and ended the war like an absolute fucking legendary boss was hilarious to watch. They were totally disappointed.
The total collapse of Afghanistan was the most predictable thing in the entire world. We could have stayed in Afghanistan for literally another 7 decades and the exact same outcome would have happened regardless in the exact same way. Ripping the band aid off was worth it both short and long term. Like I said, it was the biggest and most impressive foreign policy move a president has made in at least 50 years, if not longer. Uncle Joe deserves an ice cream for not allowing the mainstream media faux pearl clutching and pro-war propaganda to get him to reverse his decision. It was legendary, honestly.
Thank you for your service sir 🫡 hope the best for you
I believe that if the Iraq War never happened, the US mission in Afghanistan would have been more successful and the war would have ended earlier than in our timeline.
My grandfather fought in the war as a radio operator. Luckily I still have him around, he is 75. He cares about our country a huge deal but is not shy to talk about all the areas we have messed up in this war.
Thank you Mr Beat for your continued service in education for everyone. I truly believe you try and stick to the facts of everything and not get to much into personal opinion
I am an American currently living my best life in vietnam since 2016. Beautiful country, beautiful people and delicious food.
3:27 FDR was very anti-colonialism, definitely ashame he died in 1945 and didn’t live out his term because US forgein policy would have been so different.
Yeah he would have let Kremlin Joe have the whole world
FDR being good is a presentist trap my friend
@@daltongalloway Maybe not that much, but he was very naive with regards to the Soviets. Truman was the man we needed at the right time.
@@daltongalloway there is no reason to believe he would. You may say “Roosevelt gave half of Europe to Stalin” not really. The USSR had millions of troops all the way up to Berlin. The west can’t just say to the USSR to leave, they defy us. FDR had no choice too.
@@jimmym3352 Roosevelt really wasn’t, he began to take a stand against Stalin a few weeks before his death
That’s why my present responsibilities have me where I belong in the rear with the gear
Our grandfather just passed away last weekend after 28 years of fighting cancer and exposure to Agent Orange. He was the whistle blower of the NZ Army upon seeing transcripts being thrown out and realizing that our government was actively going to hide the affects of the exposure to not only soldiers and medics, but the generations that would follow too. You can receive funding, medical care and all sorts of support through the V.A thanks to Doc Mountain ❤ he also said it was not the war itself that caused PTSD, but witnessing the assault on children by American soldiers, so that's...interesting.
My uncle was sent to Vietnam in 1968, being called up as a result of dropping out of UCLA. He briefly served outside Saigon, where he was shot in the ass and almost immediately got a transfer to Berlin, where he spent the remainder of his service and which he apparently loved. He didn't tell anyone in the family that he'd ever been in Vietnam to begin with until 2000.
Thanks for sharing that, Sam. I had an uncle (on my wife's side actually but I call him an uncle) who served during the Vietnam War but out at sea.
Congrats on 1 mil!
Thank you!
I actually went to the Vietnam memorial recently on a school trip to D.C. By far one of the best memorials ive ever been to and nearly cried seeing all the notes from parents and children alike to remember their family members lost in the war. Its awful to see so many young people drafted and dying when they had their whole life ahead of them. Amazing video as always! (These are better than my school at explaining things most of the time lol)
My history EOC was yesterday, impeccable timing.
I wanted to release this last Friday actually!
@@iammrbeat nah you good passed with flying colors
I'm sorry your videos are getting demonetized, I find your content easy to watch and incredibly informative. I always come away knowing that I've learned something new. We support you fully
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Getting demonetized is how you know you're making good educational content these days, sadly.
My grandfather served in the Navy and fought in the Vietnam War. Afterwards, he struggled greatly with PTSD and substance abuse. He was a great man and I wonder what he would be like now. He passed away yesterday, May 9 of 2006, when I was 2yo.
Thank you for the great video Mr. Beat
I work at a steel plant in PA an hour outside Philly. 75% of the old timers fought in Vietnam , most are retired now but they are exactly what you expect, biker/rocker dudes with tattoos and huge beards . The draft was not evenly applied , fortunate son is a great song from that era calling that out. I believe the largest group of draftees actually came from PA, near Quakertown and Lehigh valley.
Drafts have never been equal. Wealthy families can buy their way out
Despite Vietnam's current corrupt government, the country is flourishing. I was just in Saigon on December 2019, visited beautiful mangrove forests in the Mekong delta river system. The country is rebounding from that disastrous war quite nicely.
When I was 18 and thinking about enlisting or going to college, I had a conversation with my Uncle (mom's brother) about it. He was a Vietnam vet and he told me "every man in your family on both sides has fought in every war since the founding of this country and somehow returned home. I'm not sure how much luck is left in our blood." That simple statement helped me make the decision to go to college.
Later on, in doing my own genealogical research and talking with my Aunt (dad's sister), I came to understand that he was at least partially correct, at least for my dad's side of the family. The men on my dad's side had fought in the Revolutionary War (US), The Civil War (North), and both World Wars. This is further corroborated by the fact that the men on my dad's side all had children in their 40's or older, so I would not have been born if any of them had died in combat.
Additionally, my dad told me he had almost been drafted to Vietnam but the war ended before that happened. However, my dad was born in July 1956 which would make him 16 when the final draft of the Vietnam War occurred in June of 1973, so I wonder about the veracity of his claim (he's dead now so I can't ask him).
My generation of siblings and cousins on both sides was the first in many generations to have no males join the military. I think this is probably due to Vietnam Syndrome spurred on by the access to information which became so widespread in our youth. In fact, to my knowledge, we are all decidedly anti-war. Sorry grandpa!
I’m sure your grandpa would be glad you’re alive.
I sure your grandpa is glad you weren’t sent to war to fight for oil or “speed democracy”
@@KarenHayes-fi5fu For sure. He was not a fan of war after returning from what I understand. I've seen pictures of him before and after the war and it most definitely took a physical toll on him. He was a mechanic for B17's in England but according to my Aunt, he was also part of a "reclamation squad" that would glide into enemy territory when a downed but salvageable bomber had been identified. My dad told me he refused to do anything in the snow and would say he spent "too many cold nights in France."
My mom's dad was part of a mortar team and was in Bastogne, France during the Battle of the Bulge. I never really knew him because my mom kept us away from him (for reasons outside the scope of this conversation). But I have heard that he said he could go from foxhole to foxhole on the front line and find nothing but frozen corpses. Apparently he had a mental breakdown and started shooting his sidearm wildly on the frontline so the Germans would shoot him but they never did, ostensibly to save ammunition and let the freezing temperatures kill the Americans. He was taken to a psychiatric facility and that's the last thing I know about his time in the war.
I was very young when I started hearing these stories so I imagine that also colored my view of military service and war.
My papa got a direct spray from agent Orange in Vietnam.
My uncle has lung damage from it.
what did it taste like
@@dg-ov4cf my papa passed in 2018 and never talked about his time in Vietnam and I was to young to understand at the time
Agent Orange exposure can cause genetic mutations that can potentially make descendants more susceptible to cancer. Your parent and/or you may be eligible for specific benefits from the US government, which you may already be aware. Contact your local Veteran’s Affairs offices.
Disappointed you didn't mention the millions of Vietnamese refugees who fled, many of whom settled in the USA.
Millions fleeing 50+ years of straight war should be obvious
Well the US left them at the end of the war anyways, so it's not worth mentioning
There's other stuff he didn't mention. For example, the role of Australia, New Zealand and other US/Sout Vietnamese allies. It mostly just focuses on an overview of the US involvement in the war itself.
Millions ?
@@leaveme3559 look up “boat people.”
I had a teacher, Col. Robert Guy. Awesome dude did two tours. He gave a really good Vietnam presentation for the whole 8th grade. He said he did in fact get spit on at the airport coming back and he almost killed the guy who did it. Like most soldiers he didn’t return with his platoon. So the random other soldiers that didn’t know him luckily saw what happened and cooled him off in time.
My grandfather ended up passing
way before his years after suffering for almost his entire adult life because of agent orange. The VA refused him benefits even though he was nearly physically incapable of working and he never had a time in his life where he wasn’t sick or in the hospital. I hold a lot of animosity on his behalf.
Miss ya Dad
My Grandpa was a Vietcong troop, he is always proud of protecting his nation from foreign invaders
Thanks for sharing that
Your grandpa was a hero!
His services will never be forgotten!
Hell yeah man.
His service will not go forgotten.
My dad and uncle were in during Vietnam. They have very different views on it. My uncle feels like we lost a war we shouldn't have been fighting. My dad is the type to tell you that we never lost an actual battle so we didnt lose the war (he's not technically wrong, but there weren't many of those to begin with). My uncle saw combat, but my dad never did. Its an interesting dichotomy.
I'm British and know the reasons for it, but do any American viewers know why British and Japanese troops fought in Vietnam in 1945, on the same side?
Also I find it ironic that the man probably most responsible for the Vietnam war, Charles de Gaulle, advised Kennedy to keep away after the French withdrew. De Gaulle, despite being out of government during the Indo China war, was so influential that he was able to bring down French governments that were unwilling to maintain the colony. In 1945 the British advised de Gaulle to prepare Indo China for independence in cooperation with the Viet Mihn, but he wasn't our greatest fan and ignored our rather sensible advice.
It was only for a brief part of 1945. Japan was there first during the war, Britain came in afterward after the Japanese defeat. So really they weren't on the "same side." I should have made this more clear.
I did. I know Mark Felton did a video on it.
Funny to see how the British can make good policies regarding imperialist matters. I guess it's easier when the colonies are yours.
My 12th grade project was on this war. Would've loved to have this video back then
Go back and do the project again. :)
@@iammrbeat actually my project and presentation was so bad 😞, the teacher told me to do it again and I had to a reenactment of an interview with Bruce Lee. But thanks anyway Mr. Beat!
Thank you so much. I always was curious about this war and you did an excellent job explaining it!!! Love your videos!
I know this story of one Vietnam vet who went back to the states only to find out that his old buddy died of cancer related to agent orange. He eventually got harassed by a small-town sheriff and had a mental breakdown. He wreaked havoc on that town before his old commanding officer managed to console him. Truly harrowing stuff. Someone should make a movie about it.
He got into a high speed chase on a motorcycle and took out a helicopter with rocks too.
Pls cover the Korean war next!! It’s rarely ever covered and a video this comprehensive would be a godsend
Congrats on one million subs, Mr. Beat! Please keep the great videos coming!
my grandpa was in the army during vietnam as well but didnt fight…. I have been waiting for a video like this for a while W mr Beat
Massive fan of your channel, your satire is awesome, found you with the watergate scandal vid. Keep it up!!!
The Viet Minh (Namely Ho Chi Minh himself) were not "straight up communists" which provoked the US into fighting them, they wanted help from the US, Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist who wanted independence, he was not a communist. But the US was staunchly against liberating them from the French so he turned to China for aid, which thus brought about communist rule and sentiment after-the-fact. The US pushed them into communism by fighting against them out of their own fear that they might fall to communism. Ironically the US could have more effectively fought against communism if it had been them who sided with the Viet Cong to help take over South Vietnam instead of China. If that were so, Vietnam today would likely be much more like modern Philippines in being an independent western ally on the South China Sea. Or South Korea and Japan to a lesser extent.
Very glad this channel has reached 1 million. Has always been my favorite channel. ❤️✌️
I appreciate you!
This is great we were just talking about the Vietnam War in my US History class today. I will make sure to come back this time next year when doing APUSH!
The thing I like about Mr. Beat is that even though there is a level of sarcasm and jokes about the subject, you can still tell he deeply cares about the situations at hand.
That tik tok ban comment really hits the nail on the head. Everything infront of our eyes yet our government is gaslighting us into thinking none of it’s true
fr, crazy its always been this way
I'm all for a ban on tik Tok itself but that bill gives the government some suspicious amount of power...
@@Baconcatboyexactly only the American company’s should be stealing our data not the Chinese company’s
@@BaconcatboyPatriot Act 2.0
Tiktok should still be banned regardless
I really respect you for sharing the the truth of history despite it being an unpopular topic it’s why I have watched so many of these for a while now
My final history exam in October-November will be on the Vietnam war. Currently learning about the Cuban missle Crisis, great video.
you are sincerely doing the lord's work with this content. despite it being demonetized and not pushed into recommendation pages, you still create factual and unbiased reports of oft suppressed and murky historical events. thank you for all you do
Thank you so much for covering this war. This war isn’t really explained much in school well since it’s hard to talk about such heavy losses but you did a great job and explain this objectively and fairly. And know its history that happened. If only George W. Bush knew this history…to learn from.
Congratulations on 1 million subscribers! One of the best history TH-cam channels. Thanks for being fair and telling difference of opinion and bias and objection and bringing clarity to subjects. I know people of many different political views that enjoy this channel for it’s objectivity :)
Congratulations 🎊 it’s helped me get into many new things 🙌
Hi Mr Beat, I’d just like to thank you for making such amazing content. Your videos are incredibly informative and i love your personality. Keep making great content !
I appreciate the kind words!
Haven’t even started the video, but I already know it’s a classic. Thank you, Mr. Beat! 🙏🏽
My former father-in-law just passed last month from COPD. Likely from exposure to Agent Orange. He was drafted for Vietnam and served as the person who dumped agent orange on the unsuspecting Vietnamese people. He also served as a helicopter gunner. When he wasnt in the helicopter he would be stirring burning barrels of human waste. He did what he was made to do. It was *never* something he wanted to do. Ever. It took decades for him to even speak of what he went through and even then it was basically a Cliff Notes version of it. His wife forced him into getting VA benefits, so when he did he barely spoke of what he was made to do and got very little compensation from the VA. Over the decades since, he downright refused to ask for a higher percentage of VA benefits because he knew it would mean talking about what he had to do and would mean drudging up all the things he never would talk about...whether it was recorded on paper or not, he didnt know. He passed last month from end stage COPD. He suffered immensely for years.
He was the kindest, quietest and most gentle man I've ever met in my life.
Rest in peace, Stan. ❤❤❤
A mostly American perspective on the vietnam war, disappointed it didnt go more into a inner politics of South Vietnam and North Vietnam leading up to the vietnam war and amidst the Vietnam war.
My Grandpa was an ARVN captain who fought the Binh Xuyen in 1955 and later owned a farm Xuan Loc before moving to america after the suspicious death of his eldest son who at this point had joined the new Communist government’s armt
It's a tragedy that your content gets demonetized. Thank you for uploading both versions.
I can relate to what Mr. Beat said at the end. Coming from a family where my dad served in the military from the 2000s to now and my granddad going to Vietnam, I really could not be convinced to join the cause in current day. I see the mental and economic issues it put on my granddad and his community, and his warning to my dad over and over again not to join heavily convinced me not to consider the military at all. Thank you Mr. Beat for this video, and salute to the decision you made.
The amount of time I hoped for this video to come out
holy crap mr beat you are on a roll lately, i love the longer documentary format
Right on...I shall keep making more videos like this, then. :)
Mr. Beat, thanks for a great video. As the grand-niece of a Vietnam vet who is unable to speak about his time there due to trauma, I have respect for your balanced, factual approach to the war. I know how I personally feel about the war after seeing an excellent exhibit covering the war at the WWI museum in KC, but ultimately, your approach is one that makes clear the issues of the American government and the killing of innocent Vietnamese/soldiers without being an insulting video. There's a ton of controversy surrounding war in general and plenty to condemn. It's a reflection on our current world situation and how we want our world to be today. But by reporting the facts, you leave the opinions to be formed by viewer. As a fellow history nerd (and former Kansan--Rock Chalk!), I really enjoy your videos.
Doing exactly what TH-cam and the internet needs with videos like this Mr. Beat
My granddaddy served for 3 years in the army during Vietnam. He sadly passed this April at 76. Feb 2 1948- April 29 2024 RIP Grandad and ty for your service.
RIP
I’m a Vietnamese-American i always try to avoid this conflict especially with all of the bloodshed of my people I always thought it was stupid that people would fight over different types of flawed governments/ religions that can coexist
It's more like normal people fighting for the rich to make a profit. Religions and political systems are just used for PR.
The rich rulers of the US know that if communism gets popular, they lose all of their power. They’re willing to kill millions of people just to maintain their wealth and power.
My dad was a marine in Vietnam, only a teenager. His experience there caused him to pretty much forbid me and my brothers from joining the military.
Great video mate. If you could do Laos and the secret war that would be amazing. I spent about a year in Laos and the effect that America had on that place is still being felt today with millions of tons of unexploded ordinances still in the ground.
No mention of Kissinger?
Thank you for releasing this at such a important time. History is so important but so neglected, the past few months (and years) have once again proven this to be the case.
Thank you so much for this. My father was a veteran of Omaha beach where he received a bronze star for valor. He retired a full colonel and turned white as a sheet when I told him I was enlisting in the Marine Corps. He begged me not to go and explained that this was some half-cocked CIA war that made no sense. If I had any critique about this production, I would say you erred on the side of kid-gloving it. The video and stills of these conflicts should be seen by all citizens before they agree to sending soldiers into these pointless conflicts. Thanks again. Great work.
Your father was completely right, he knew when a war was worth fighting for and the true story of the Vietnam war has always been concealed from the public despite the fact that is there open for everyone to see:
The last thing Ho wanted was to have a war with the U.S. He had worked as an asset for US intelligence, for the OSS in ww2 and that he expected that as payback for his service Washington would back him in obtaining Independence from the French and that he had even offered to open an independent Vietnam wide for the U.S. to install as many military bases and they wished BECAUSE HIS MAIN CONCERN AFTER HE DROVE OFF THE FRENCH WERE THE CHINESE...? Ho HAD OFFERED DA NANG TO THE US MILITARY FOR FREE...!
Despite being a Communist Ho thought that his best friend could be the U.S. and expected a deal like the West had with the Communist leader of Yugoslavia, Tito, but the U.S. didn't want any of it. Racism...? In any case, the Chinese had been for many centuries the main enemy of Vietnam, they still are, and Ho wanted the protection of the U.S. military to prevent them from invading his country, but instead Washington preferred wage war against him. A big Amerrican war at a cost of 58.000 dead for absolutely nothing. Nowadays Vietnam is still Communist and still willing to become a U.S,. ally as protection from the Chinese.
By the way, I learnt about all this during a Larry King interview of a man who he presented as the most decorated U.S. veteran in Vietnam who had done his research after the war and even wrote a book on the subject.
Thank you for sharing this information despite money. You are a wealth of knowledge. I appreciate you!
Congrats on a million subs brother 🙏 Well deserved.
Thank you!
Congrats on 1 Million Subscribers!!!!!
Well thank you so much!
My Uncle was in Vietnam. When we were reading The Joy Luck Club by Amy Tan in English my sophomore year in high scjool my teacher assigned us a family interview project. I did my mine on my uncle in Vietnam. It was something very interesting to hear about cuz I never really heard him talk about it before. It was nice too cuz he had old photos that I could use. Also I remember when the Ken Burns documentary came out on PBS around the same time.
Very in depth, I was not expecting you to go into the full context with the first indochina war. As a Buddhist I was glad to see you talk about the persecution Vietnamese Buddhists experienced and their sacrifices through self immolation. It always evokes emotion from me when I see Buddhists use self immolation as political/religious protest, and knowing their reason is almost always just the freedom to exist.
I’m not yet finished with the video, but I wonder if you’ll bring up how today Vietnamese call Ho Chi Minh ‘Uncle Ho’ and how revered he is for Vietnamese liberation in the North and South. My ex and their family are Vietnamese Buddhists, and I have Vietnamese friends today. I can confidently say there are scars on their communities from these wars an inter-generational trauma, and I can confidently say many Vietnamese are open-minded and enthusiastic today about making international friendships and connections.
If you’re in the US and interested in Vietnamese food and culture but don’t have the money to go to Vietnam, there is a Little Vietnam plaza in Falls Church Virginia. The Vietnamese restaurants nearby in Falls Church are great too. ❤
Hi Mr. Beat!!
I was gonna angrily comment that this wouldve been helpful before the apush exam but there was literally nothing aside from like 2 mcq questions on stuff past the 1900s
That’s disturbing. Do you think the test has been diluted due to current war protests going on?
thank you mr beat for making a video about the vietnam war bc i didnt pay attention in high school
Thank you for teaching me everything I know about the Vietnam War.
You should be in Nebula by the way. I dont know how the process works but you should definitely be there
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Congrats on 1mil🎉
I want to shout out my grandfather, who was drafted into the Vietnam War. Not only was he a fighter in the jungles, but he was also a mechanic at base. Came back home scarred, but had a few stories.
He is 78 y/o and is still going strong! Thank you for serving, gramps.
Love that you put that to perspective of what is happening to this day
Thank you Mr. Beast, never disappoints!
1 million incredible great work
Thank you!
Congrats on 1 Million subscribers!🎉🎉
It’s crazy how this channel is still underrated even after surpassing a million subs.
Absolute banger video as usual
Thank you!
can you do a video on the korean war?
Yes! Make this top
He did say in the description that he wouldn't be making anymore war videos for a while sadly
Mr. Beat, once again a terrific review. Coming from a family of veterans [dating back to the Civil War] I enlisted in 1965, although I did not serve any time in Viet Nam, my younger (also enlisted) brother did... plus we lost 5 high school classmates in the jungle. Many of us volunteers soon realized that American involvement in Viet Nam was a mistake and a No-Win situation.
Amount of troops in Vietnam during Kennedy’s presidency: 3,000
Amount of troops during Johnson’s presidency: 300,000
Congrats on a million subs buddy
Thank you so much!
Have needed an in-depth Vietnam War video for a decade now!
There's one by a channel called 'WarsoftheWorld' that's even more in depth than this one.
I live in VN and now is 21h36, I have to say we dont have hatred toward to US, most of us viewed the war with the logic "Its just 20 years, not so long, so we should care about our business and bowl of rice rather than something happened from the past". I think this logic very weird right ? But a lot of people living here actually think like this.
Fascinating video Mr. Beat. Let’s hope another Vietnam style war doesn’t happen again.
every conflict we’ve gotten involved with post WWII has been this same sort of lie. they happen all the time.