All your videos from the beginning what you do I am highly impressed with and I pray that one day my wife and I can be as lucky unfortunately right now it's about her stage 4 cancer fight
As a survivor of fairly advanced bowel cancer I can certainly sympathise with your wife. The good news is that after all the chemo and radiotherapy I'm still all clear after 10+ years. I think I was lucky because I tolerated all the treatments very well but I send you both all my thoughts and best wishes for the future ❤.
I can understand completely! March 2015 my wife was diagnosed with beast cancer. Declared treatment complete & cancer free in Feb 2016. Unfortunately side effects of the chemotherapy and rheumatoid arthritis left her permanently disabled. It's about the fight and living during and through, and afterwards. I hope the best for your wife and you.
Wow, this really turned into a major overhaul of a once great F-27 that needed a lot of TLC. Nice to see you bringing her back to her former glory and although the labor has been intense, you will have generated a lot of sweat equity once completed. Cheers!
Good to see that you're done with your fiberglass repairs, but shocked to hear about your trailer, which looked fine, but must be something major that we can't see. Can't wait to hear where you're moving to
Jordan, I seem to remember that you didn't get off to the best of starts with this boat, getting a rude shock when you discovered all of the structural damage. I congratulate you on making such a successful recovery from what looked like being a serious problem. Well done 👏! I have a thought that you could probably sell with a small profit if you were so inclined. Just a thought.
If he hadn't done the work himself, the cost of a professional repair would have been crazy. If you can do your own work and enjoy it with both cars and boats, you can dig out value.
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove yes, I've done plenty of that myself over the years. Not so easy these days with vehicle maintenance and terms of warranties etc!
I'm excited to hear what the news is all about. been following you for some time now and I am impressed with your drive and ambition. you've chosen a path that ain't easy but you are sticking to it. love the videos.
I've been curious about your progress on this boat just as I'm sure the rest of your subscribers have been. It's nice to see you are following through & confidently handling the tasks at hand. It's a big, time & money consuming job. Nicely done thus far. You are facing what might be a mild nightmare replacing all that carpet, especially the overhead portion but I think you are correct in taking it on. You will be far more satisfied with a thorough job in the end & from experience I have felt from the beginning that the old most likely moldy carpet needs to go. It's going to be a pain but well worth it. Best to you & yours throughout the upcoming projects.
Looking for an F-27, that needs work, this is a great project to follow, if your other projects take up too much of your time let me know. About to retire, so i'll have the time. Keep up the great work, can't wait for more.
If you plan to keep this boat, I would have flow-coated the bilge and left large access panels for all sections. A boat that small really needs some more storage space. That is a perfect boat to do The Great Loop in!
I thought this boat went away 6 months ago. You remind me of my son in your ability to drag projects out forever! Haha! Hopefully, one day you can actually use it.
I'd say he has demonstrated the tenacity to persist where others would have long given up. I'm sure he will get much more enjoyment out of this little pocket rocket than any off the shelf boat could ever give.
Anxious to hear about your future plans. You hinted about a better climate for working on the boat, so I suspect you kids are moving North or West! With a new baby on the way, moving before Randi gets too far along will definitely be a smart thing. BTW, hoping to see Morgan and Randi in your upcoming postings!
I have done similar work on a couple of farrier trimarans. Get rid of the rollers on the trailer and replace with bunks. On the F25s o worked on, the damage was in the same are as the two front rollers, bouncing on the trailer was likely the cause. Now with bunks they have much more support. If you really feel you need a roller for getting on th trailer (the 27 is def heavier) then get just one (double for more support) roller at the front not another one 3’ back, just bunk as far forward as possible with the one roller just to get the very front on the trailer. The f boat lists should have that in there somewhere, but it’s pretty simple.
When you take out the mousefur it's very hard to clean up the contact cement that held it in place. And ton of work. You should consider putting new mouse fur in at least in portions. Corsair dealer may find it. Or you might get new mouse fur from fablock,think is in Ohio. The mousefur Corsair used was front runner brand
I seem to remember that that it was a leaking companionway hatch that caused all the damage. Did you shoot any footage of that repair? Maybe a recap of work to date at some point. Nice to see the all the structural stuff completed.
All I've done so far about that is cut a new hatch board out of 1/4" epoxy coated ply and duck taped the suspected leaking fixtures in the pop top. Nothing really repaired yet, but I did stop the leaking until I can actually repair it.
@@LearningtheLines I have noticed that some owners have replaced the companionway drop-in boards with thick perspex ones, giving the advantage of being able to see the cockpit from down below and letting in heaps more light! Uma have done it with their boat.
Skimming thru the vids in this series, it appears that a fundamental construction problem may have contributed to the failure of the keel area. That might be present in all copies of this boat made by that particular builder of it, at that particular time. As shown early on in the series, only a thin glass layer on the interior surface appears to be present at some points on the sandwich core. If the design intent was to use structural foam core laminate sandwich construction to resist loads, that would be a fail from the get-go. If OTOH the foam was only there as insulation over a thicker and more robust structural fiberglass shell then it wouldn't matter nearly as much. Considering the desired light weight for a craft of this type however, it is probable that a structural sandwich throughout the hull was intended, including below the water line. Heavy displacement cruising monohulls built of steel rely on bulkheads and stringers with steel plate diaphragms welded to those to resist point and other loads. Similar principle with single-shell fiberglass hulls, which can get quite thick. The price paid for that strength of course is the sheer weight of it all, which is untenable in a fast trimaran. A sandwich core laminate construction needs a sufficiently thick/strong inside structural e-glass shell, cemented (epoxied) to the foam or balsa core. But that shell of course is still much thinner than single-shell construction. The outside of that core also needs to be cemented to an outside structural e-glass shell. Each shell consists of several layers of fiberglass, with the whole sandwich either laid up 'cold' or vacuum-infused in modern boats. The whole laminate structure of f/g + foam + f/g epoxied together works on the steel 'I-beam' principle, but radially in 2 dimensions. It is orders of magnitude stronger than each component separately. Point loads or general load forces applied to the outside shell are immediately transmitted to the core which resists compression loads. Those forces are in turn transmitted to the inside shell which resist distortion through tension in the e-glass fibers in the inside shell. Both shells have to be sufficiently strong (layers of weave or weave material) to transmit and resist compression and tension loads, and thoroughly attached (epoxied) to the core on both sides to geometrically transmit forces through it from one shell to the other. And the core itself has to be strong enough to resist compressive and other forces sent through it. (End-grain balsa is quite good at this, which is why it is used sometimes.) This all goes way beyond just keeping water out of the sandwich laminate, or visually hiding cosmetics under the sole. So the main original problem might be that the inside thin layer of fiberglass (Kevlar strip running fore/aft notwithstanding) is just not strong enough in tension or stiff enough at every point for the complete sandwich to work correctly. The attachment interface (cement/epoxy layer) between either shell and foam or balsa core is also suspect, regardless how dry the core is now or how intact the fiberglass layer itself appears. With the weak or defective inside shell it would have been easy for damage to occur either from bouncing on a trailer or running aground. Things just get worse from there with the obvious pooled-water induced de-lamination and widespread bad repair of a major impact. Now after repair, not only does each f/g shell need to be sufficiently continuous and strong, but the core everywhere has to end up being intact and epoxied properly to both shells. A final thing to consider are the square corners you cut in your sole and into the sandwich at a couple of points. Concentrated-force cracks can grow from those corners possibly leading to localized failure. The early 1950's Comet airliner was discontinued for that reason, as the sharp window--corner loads were concentrated and split apart the aircraft in flight. No aircraft uses a sharp window corner anymore. I would use a 2-inch saw-bit to first core corner holes in the sole, then connect the tangent of each with a cut-line to the next hole.
Corrosion and/or excess static or cyclical force/weight applied to the structure over time, in a way it was not built to resist. Often due to cavalier or naive engineering assumptions and over-zealous interests in saving weight and cost.
The best answer is a ferret/mink or a non venomous snake..thats why they are that shape😂...if all else fails borrow a 🐱 and see where their nose points. It might have been a packrat just looking for a nice dry nesting site. Though it shows how adept they are at sneaking in.
There is a new bottom barrier coat that another cruising boat put on the bottom paint that is not supposed to be poisonous you might want to redo your research on bottom paint I can’t remember the name
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All your videos from the beginning what you do I am highly impressed with and I pray that one day my wife and I can be as lucky unfortunately right now it's about her stage 4 cancer fight
As a survivor of fairly advanced bowel cancer I can certainly sympathise with your wife. The good news is that after all the chemo and radiotherapy I'm still all clear after 10+ years. I think I was lucky because I tolerated all the treatments very well but I send you both all my thoughts and best wishes for the future ❤.
I can understand completely! March 2015 my wife was diagnosed with beast cancer. Declared treatment complete & cancer free in Feb 2016. Unfortunately side effects of the chemotherapy and rheumatoid arthritis left her permanently disabled.
It's about the fight and living during and through, and afterwards. I hope the best for your wife and you.
It's really cool that the boat is dry after all of the rain.
Wow, this really turned into a major overhaul of a once great F-27 that needed a lot of TLC. Nice to see you bringing her back to her former glory and although the labor has been intense, you will have generated a lot of sweat equity once completed. Cheers!
Can't wait to see this boat sail ! Love the new 880 just wish it was just a little more live abord !!!
Good to see that you're done with your fiberglass repairs, but shocked to hear about your trailer, which looked fine, but must be something major that we can't see. Can't wait to hear where you're moving to
Jordan, I seem to remember that you didn't get off to the best of starts with this boat, getting a rude shock when you discovered all of the structural damage. I congratulate you on making such a successful recovery from what looked like being a serious problem. Well done 👏!
I have a thought that you could probably sell with a small profit if you were so inclined. Just a thought.
Thank you and probably... but I've fallen in love with her!
If he hadn't done the work himself, the cost of a professional repair would have been crazy. If you can do your own work and enjoy it with both cars and boats, you can dig out value.
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove yes, I've done plenty of that myself over the years. Not so easy these days with vehicle maintenance and terms of warranties etc!
@@LearningtheLines snap out of it❗️😂
Excellent work. Thank you so much for sharing this information. I bought a project boat and you giving me great inspiration.
Bet you didn't sign up for all these repairs, Jordan.
Kudos for sticking with it! 👍
I'm excited to hear what the news is all about. been following you for some time now and I am impressed with your drive and ambition. you've chosen a path that ain't easy but you are sticking to it. love the videos.
I am glad to see your project moving forward! Keep the videos coming!
Really enjoyed this playlist. Would love to see more F27 content.
Really enjoying these videos on the Tri. Can't wait to see more progress.
Great to see progress on the Trimaran again.
Interested to hear the big news. Sounds like a move is coming
I've been curious about your progress on this boat just as I'm sure the rest of your subscribers have been. It's nice to see you are following through & confidently handling the tasks at hand. It's a big, time & money consuming job. Nicely done thus far. You are facing what might be a mild nightmare replacing all that carpet, especially the overhead portion but I think you are correct in taking it on. You will be far more satisfied with a thorough job in the end & from experience I have felt from the beginning that the old most likely moldy carpet needs to go. It's going to be a pain but well worth it. Best to you & yours throughout the upcoming projects.
Been watching you for a grad years man , gotta say I’m a big fan and love what you do. Keep up the good work
Just found your channel. Binge watched for a bit. I love how relatable y’all are. Blessings to you and yours.
Looking for an F-27, that needs work, this is a great project to follow, if your other projects take up too much of your time let me know. About to retire, so i'll have the time. Keep up the great work, can't wait for more.
Cool!
Looking forward to seeing you make it look beautiful.🤙
Great job man ,we’re always interested in your goings on also how’s the baby haven’t seen lately 👍
If you plan to keep this boat, I would have flow-coated the bilge and left large access panels for all sections. A boat that small really needs some more storage space. That is a perfect boat to do The Great Loop in!
I thought this boat went away 6 months ago. You remind me of my son in your ability to drag projects out forever! Haha! Hopefully, one day you can actually use it.
I'd say he has demonstrated the tenacity to persist where others would have long given up. I'm sure he will get much more enjoyment out of this little pocket rocket than any off the shelf boat could ever give.
Anxious to hear about your future plans. You hinted about a better climate for working on the boat, so I suspect you kids are moving North or West! With a new baby on the way, moving before Randi gets too far along will definitely be a smart thing. BTW, hoping to see Morgan and Randi in your upcoming postings!
Go north my friend, go north!
Glad to see the progress it's been awhile since I've seen an update
Well done!
I have done similar work on a couple of farrier trimarans. Get rid of the rollers on the trailer and replace with bunks. On the F25s o worked on, the damage was in the same are as the two front rollers, bouncing on the trailer was likely the cause. Now with bunks they have much more support. If you really feel you need a roller for getting on th trailer (the 27 is def heavier) then get just one (double for more support) roller at the front not another one 3’ back, just bunk as far forward as possible with the one roller just to get the very front on the trailer. The f boat lists should have that in there somewhere, but it’s pretty simple.
Oh my! So sorry your leaving the Keys! We are in Titusville! Know you have been here! If your passing maybe we could share some Ice tea together?
kuddos and congrats
This is a last video from the F 27 project? I was following because I'm thinking about getting a boat like this.
Excellent progress!
Hey Jordan -
Love the content long time sub.. did you guys keep this boat? The trimaran ?
Nice job Jordan.
When you take out the mousefur it's very hard to clean up the contact cement that held it in place. And ton of work. You should consider putting new mouse fur in at least in portions. Corsair dealer may find it. Or you might get new mouse fur from fablock,think is in Ohio. The mousefur Corsair used was front runner brand
While you are down there I think you should reinforce the front edge of the keel. Looks a bit thin and translucent.
I seem to remember that that it was a leaking companionway hatch that caused all the damage. Did you shoot any footage of that repair? Maybe a recap of work to date at some point. Nice to see the all the structural stuff completed.
All I've done so far about that is cut a new hatch board out of 1/4" epoxy coated ply and duck taped the suspected leaking fixtures in the pop top. Nothing really repaired yet, but I did stop the leaking until I can actually repair it.
@@LearningtheLines I have noticed that some owners have replaced the companionway drop-in boards with thick perspex ones, giving the advantage of being able to see the cockpit from down below and letting in heaps more light! Uma have done it with their boat.
That's likely what we're going to do! In a small space like this, it makes way too much sense. Lol
@@LearningtheLines Thank you for the explanation, glad it stop the rain from getting in.
Carpet and boats are mutually exclusive.
Whats new with the Corsair? any updates?
Skimming thru the vids in this series, it appears that a fundamental construction problem may have contributed to the failure of the keel area. That might be present in all copies of this boat made by that particular builder of it, at that particular time.
As shown early on in the series, only a thin glass layer on the interior surface appears to be present at some points on the sandwich core. If the design intent was to use structural foam core laminate sandwich construction to resist loads, that would be a fail from the get-go. If OTOH the foam was only there as insulation over a thicker and more robust structural fiberglass shell then it wouldn't matter nearly as much. Considering the desired light weight for a craft of this type however, it is probable that a structural sandwich throughout the hull was intended, including below the water line. Heavy displacement cruising monohulls built of steel rely on bulkheads and stringers with steel plate diaphragms welded to those to resist point and other loads. Similar principle with single-shell fiberglass hulls, which can get quite thick. The price paid for that strength of course is the sheer weight of it all, which is untenable in a fast trimaran.
A sandwich core laminate construction needs a sufficiently thick/strong inside structural e-glass shell, cemented (epoxied) to the foam or balsa core. But that shell of course is still much thinner than single-shell construction. The outside of that core also needs to be cemented to an outside structural e-glass shell. Each shell consists of several layers of fiberglass, with the whole sandwich either laid up 'cold' or vacuum-infused in modern boats.
The whole laminate structure of f/g + foam + f/g epoxied together works on the steel 'I-beam' principle, but radially in 2 dimensions. It is orders of magnitude stronger than each component separately. Point loads or general load forces applied to the outside shell are immediately transmitted to the core which resists compression loads. Those forces are in turn transmitted to the inside shell which resist distortion through tension in the e-glass fibers in the inside shell. Both shells have to be sufficiently strong (layers of weave or weave material) to transmit and resist compression and tension loads, and thoroughly attached (epoxied) to the core on both sides to geometrically transmit forces through it from one shell to the other. And the core itself has to be strong enough to resist compressive and other forces sent through it. (End-grain balsa is quite good at this, which is why it is used sometimes.) This all goes way beyond just keeping water out of the sandwich laminate, or visually hiding cosmetics under the sole.
So the main original problem might be that the inside thin layer of fiberglass (Kevlar strip running fore/aft notwithstanding) is just not strong enough in tension or stiff enough at every point for the complete sandwich to work correctly. The attachment interface (cement/epoxy layer) between either shell and foam or balsa core is also suspect, regardless how dry the core is now or how intact the fiberglass layer itself appears. With the weak or defective inside shell it would have been easy for damage to occur either from bouncing on a trailer or running aground. Things just get worse from there with the obvious pooled-water induced de-lamination and widespread bad repair of a major impact. Now after repair, not only does each f/g shell need to be sufficiently continuous and strong, but the core everywhere has to end up being intact and epoxied properly to both shells.
A final thing to consider are the square corners you cut in your sole and into the sandwich at a couple of points. Concentrated-force cracks can grow from those corners possibly leading to localized failure. The early 1950's Comet airliner was discontinued for that reason, as the sharp window--corner loads were concentrated and split apart the aircraft in flight. No aircraft uses a sharp window corner anymore. I would use a 2-inch saw-bit to first core corner holes in the sole, then connect the tangent of each with a cut-line to the next hole.
Wow! Interesting...
What happened with this boat?
Just curious, did you guys ever get a SeaWind 1160 of your very own? We have been thinking of getting one and wanted your opinion and impressions.
*Without further ado* it was on time ...
Any update on Desperado?
you've made progress. Watch the rats or mice, they have been known to chew up electrical stuff.
How is the corsair going now?
Congrats on the house. Y’all staying in the Keys?
Epic video!!!
Any update video on this project
How does a boat trailer go bad?
Corrosion and/or excess static or cyclical force/weight applied to the structure over time, in a way it was not built to resist. Often due to cavalier or naive engineering assumptions and over-zealous interests in saving weight and cost.
Whoa rats I hate em, found the best no kill solution is the bed bug spray. They hate it and leave on their own.
What is the compressor noise in the background
The best answer is a ferret/mink or a non venomous snake..thats why they are that shape😂...if all else fails borrow a 🐱 and see where their nose points. It might have been a packrat just looking for a nice dry nesting site. Though it shows how adept they are at sneaking in.
There is a new bottom barrier coat that another cruising boat put on the bottom paint that is not supposed to be poisonous you might want to redo your research on bottom paint I can’t remember the name
Look grate! :)
Despite all my rage, I’m still just a Rat in an boat….
Soo colllllllll Bro 😀👌🤟👍🙌✌️⛵
Looks like you been working on her. I was wondering about her fate.
The scariest part of this video is somebody is going to reference this video for fiberglass repairs Lol
👍👍⛵⚓⛵
Thickened epoxy , take a shot !! Opps! Wrong channel , that would be On Board Lifestyle. 😃😃😃😃
Rats can't 💩 that much without food bro 😂
I need help on my boat if you want to give me a hand. I'm in Ft. Lauderdale
Rat poop...it is what it is !!!!
rats never come in one's. good luck
Good news I saw some guy has one of these pieces of junk for sale for 98K dollars!!!! I am sure there is some sucker out there willing to buy it.