Miles Edgeworth also notably helps Phoenix during a trial *where he is the prosecutor.* I think it was towards the end regarding the DL-6 incident, and one of the suspects/witnesses says something that would technically help his case (or at least not directly go against it). Then all of a sudden you hear him yell "Objection!" and he starts basically doing your job for you in a brief section. He literally teams up with Phoenix because he realizes the defendant isn't guilty, and he wants the actual bad guy put away.
Honorable Mention: Revolver Ocelot. Yeah, the timeline of the series makes it hard to tell when he becomes a friend, but he is Snake’s friend in The Phantom Pain after being his enemy in Snake Eater. Plus, he’s been our enemy since MGS1, and to finally have him as our ally in MGSV is quite meta.
The Ace Attorney judge just watching various lawyers repeatedly assault Phoenix in various ways every few seconds of the trial like “ok.... this is fine...”
Ol' Udgey is a wet tissue when it comes to prosecutors breaking all kinds of rules in court. He'll allow anything. Justine Courtney from Investigations 2 on the other hand... She doesn't put up with any of your shit.
@@deathbykonami5487 no, they were friends. Back when they were kids someone accused Phoenix of stealing their lunch, and the class decided to hold a mock trial as a sort of teaching lesson about how the court system works (in that series, at least) with Edgeworth serving as Phoenix's defense attorney. It was when Edgeworth's dad was killed and he got brought up by Von Karma that the two drifted apart.
Edgeworth might be a conceited jerk in the first game, but you have to remember he had to suffer almost as much harassment, stupid antics, and painfully awkward situations as Phoenix himself. Amazing Ace Attorney line: “I was was hoping I would think of something to say while objecting, but I didn’t.”
N wasn't really a villain He just wanted what was best for the pokemon. Getsis and the rest of Team Plasma acted without N's knowledge Besides N's title is more a formality since Team Plasma answers to Getsis alone anyway
@@deathbykonami5487 IIRC, in PokeAni N realised team Plasma was evil and ran away with... Reshiram I believe ? Have seen pretty much none of Gen V's anime.
As these other guys (?) pointed out, N wasn’t strictly a villain, but a rival and puppet. Ghetsis, on the other hand, IS the real villain, and quite frankly, the biggest P.O.S. in the franchise.
@@dracosmith7781, his final goal was to be the only person in Unova that had Pokémon (with the ultimate purpose of total domination of Unova). A version of him appears in US/UM with the same purpose...just with the ultimate purpose of separating all Pokémon from humans (again, for domination). None of the other "big bads" had such lofty goals combined with the success...
@@deathbykonami5487 and/ or writing his own. And if you haven't played SR4 yet, I highly recommend it. Superpowers, Dubstep gun that can cause chaos and mayhem once fully upgraded, and the option to romance little Matty, who is now 21 at the time of 4 and legal across the board as he was 16 in 3. Win- win all the way around. Plus, a hidden surprise or two that are best left unspoiled unless you've played it. Still miffed that they didn't include the Gat Out of Hell DLC with the Switch port of 4. That DLC better drop as SR 4.5 or something.
My name is Claire and for a brief moment I was shocked and terrified that I might have somehow upset Jane at school. Considering I have never been pursued by her killbots, wolves and death rays, I'm going to assume she's talking about another Claire....
MacCready in Fallout 3 was a little d-bag, but he wasn’t exactly an enemy, so idk if he counts. In Fo4 he’s a great companion though - his perk is awesome.
David Leonard Flanagan well I mean this is a common situation and if I said “Andy:” the Off Screen voice varies based on the skit, but those conversations are my favorite parts of the videos.
I'd like to see a list of games where your protagonist was silent in the first, and have voices in the sequel. A good example is Isaac Clarke in the Dead Space series.
The geth were never really an enemy though. The heretics were, but they definitely didn't become friends later. MAYBE "allies" if you were a douche and indoctrinated them.
Legion wouldn't count. However, the Geth in general would be kinda tricky for me since, yes they are enemies in the game but they never wanted to be in the first place.
YOUR NAME I know, but most people didn’t play the games chronologically. The pre sequel was much less advertised so mostly only fans of the series bought it. Fair point though
YOUR NAME also you could argue that (spoiler for some lore) that when jack makes angel tell them to get off the bus which shapes the first game and sets him up to be the one who was truly manipulating them and then he becomes the friend as seen with lilith and roland in the pre sequel
Well, you see, that is a possibility, because they were only mortal enemies. Which is to say, were only enemies for the span of one lifetime, which, being immortal, is not a very long time at all
Well technically Scorpion was enemy with Bi Han (the Elder Sub Zero who then become Noob Saibot). He wasn't much of an enemy to Kuai Ling (Tundra who then become the current Sub Zero)
Jane: "... logically the friend of my friend must be my enemy" Me: wow you guys are really good at making proverbs Also Jane: "There's no honourableness among people who steal things" Me: nvm
Billie Lurk from the Dishonored games. Whaler (and therefore Corvo’s enemy) then she betrays Daud in the DLC so she’s actually your enemy twice before being indispensable in the sequel.
Until she tries to kill the Outsider for no good reason, that guy tries to keep Dunwall and Carnaca from destroying themselves, hence why he gives Corvo and Emily their void powers and only gets passively pissed during the high chaos ending
@@deathbykonami5487 I haven't played the DLC of 2 yet, and since I consider the DLC of 1 to basically be a separate game I figured DOTO would be the same. So she basically just flip-flops each time.
"Matt Miller. Pictured here, leaving an angry comment on the my chemical romance subreddit" is bar none, the best thing I have ever heard. Also accurate. He would. What's it like, being the funniest person alive, Mike????
If IV is anything to go by, he's probably rewriting people's Nyteblayde fanfiction, or just deleting other people's fanfiction and replacing it with his own (I mean his online password is literally MattxNyteBlayde)
@@Brainwave101 He helped Big Boss carry out Zero's body double plan successfully and stuck with Venom to the very end as his advisor too,so he was loyal to both Big Bosses...
One that immediately comes to mind is Sarevok, the main antagonist from Baldur's Gate being a potential companion in BG2's Throne of Bhaal expansion. He's pretty useful too.
yeah she doesn't count as 1) she actually becomes your friend near the end of the game and 2) she was brainwashed and was on your side the whole time (in fact, her killing angels who were on ehr side might've been like her brainwashing not being perfect)
1:25 No Jane, the Netscape Navigator is not dead!! It lives on in our hearts as the greatest browser no one will ever remember!! (Fun Fact: Every browser and website regularly uses a later version of the Javascript language and it was invented by Netscape in the early & the mid-'90s.)
"Went from being the highest ranked elite in the covenant." Actually bud.... In Halo 2 the Tittle of Arbiter was the lowest rank. The suicide mission rank, it was a tittle of shame and humiliation until Halo 3. At least you tried to give Arbiter some cred though.
"Though considered a commanding role of high esteem, the Arbiter was condemned to a life of suicidal missions to regain his honor." Still sounds like a pretty high rank to me.
Also, the Arbiter doesn't even belong on this list. He wasn't the main antagonist of Halo 2, he was a protagonist and already allied with the UNSC by the end of Halo 2. The actual antagonists of Halo 2 are the Gravemind, the Prophets, and Tartar sauce.
I am aware your comment is nearly a year old, but just in case this helps (I'm hard of hearing myself, so I missed one word that I just couldn't make out. It might be 'purging'): 3:22 GLaDOS: "Oh, it's you. It's been a long time." Wheatley: "You know her?" GLaDOS: "How have you been? I've been really busy being dead. You know, after you murdered me." 3:56 GLaDOS: "Thank you for participating in this Aperture Science computer-aided enrichment activity. Goodbye." 4:22 Wheatley: "There she is. What a nasty piece of work she was, honestly. Like a proper maniac. Do you know who ended up (inaudible) her, who ended up taking her down in the end? You're not going to believe this. A human!" 4:38 GLaDOS: "Oh, it's you. It's been a long time." Wheatley: "You know her?" 4:45 GLaDOS: "Stop! No! No! No! No! No! (high-pitched screaming)" 5:45 GLaDOS: "We're at an impasse. So what do you say: you carry me up to him and put me back into my body and I stop us from blowing up and let you go." 5:58 GLaDOS: "If you can get me in front of him I'll fry every circuit in that little idiot's head." 6:09 GLaDOS: "I thought you were my greatest enemy, when all along you were my best friend." Hope that helps! (Edited to fix a spelling mistake.)
I wouldn’t call Majima an enemy since he can act like a bro too when they’re not fighting. He have good reason fighting Kiryu which is making Kiryu stronger.
@@undyne1 In "Kiwami", that is a... possible interpretation. In the original, where his only interactions with Kiryu are the cutscene fight in the beginning, the kidnapping of Haruka and batting cage fight, and the ramming a truck into Shangri-la and subsequent fight... no. Personally, I am of the opinion that anyone who kidnaps a traumatised nine-year-old for whatever reason, let alone one as petty as picking a fight for amusement's sake, is a villain, period. I have come to terms with the fact that the rest of the "Yakuza"-fandom seems to disagree, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
I was just thinking, would Legion from Mass Effect 2 and 3 count? He is a Geth and you do spend most of Mass Effect fighting the Geth. Since the Geth are Shepard's enemy, would Legion count as an enemy turned friend? I think so
Probably not, since the Geth from ME1 are the Heretics that worship the Reapers, while Legion's on the side of the 95% of the Geth who literally just want to be left alone
No, Legion wouldn't count. He's from a completely different sect than the one you fought in ME1. His group was never technically against you in the first place.
Now, depending on how you play Shepard, Cerberus could count. Sure, TIM, Jacob, and Miranda all insist that the Cerberus labs you raided in ME1 belonged to rogue cells, but seeing what TIM has had done to the troopers in the short time from ME2 to ME3 makes me think those earlier experiments were probably a bit more official than we were meant to think.
How about Dimitri lousteau in the Sly Cooper series. He was the First boss in Band of Thieves, but becomes a valued Ally in Honor among Thieves and Thieves in Time. And he's hilarious.
Does PLAYING as your enemy from the first game count, or would it be another list? Because Golden Sun : TLA would fit the mold. First game: play as four heroes that try to prevent lighthouses from being lit. Second game: play as two "enemies" (plus two randos) from the first game, and _light_ the lighthouses. Also: I saw Axel/Lea from Kingdom Hearts in the comments, and I also vote for him.
Is having different methods of achieving a common goal (saving Weyland either via lighting the lighthouses and unleashing alchemy unto the world, forcing it to be rebirth or letting it rot slowly) considered "enemies"? Then again, Golden Sun is legendary. Shame Ivan, Mia, Felix and his co. don't have cameos in Dark Dawn.
Tales of Xillia, Gaius and Muzet go from being the final villains of the first game to joining your team in the second game. Not really best friends but they still came along way.
Billie also hid that from Emily until the last mission, I think there is an option to kill her when you find out, and even the friendliest option has Emily (haven't gotten that far as Corvo) tell Billie she never wants to see her again.
I guess I was the only one thinking of Shinobu. I find that kinda funny because I played kingdom hearts as though I couldn’t live without when I got the game. Though, I only got to watch videos for no more heroes.
Same here. Especially when the supposed bad guy has a compelling backstory, or your character decides not to kill them. I love seeing bad guys become good guys. Like pretty much everyone on this list, especially Edgeworth(who is my favorite one). I love the Ace Attorney series. It's too bad we never got the sequel to Ace Attorney Investigations though...Edgeworth is like Vegeta, but calmer, and like Andy said, "dresses like a 17th century vampire". But he's got sharp and spiky hair like Vegeta's so that's something?
I really love this trope. It feels so nice and I love antagonist having character development along with witness between protag and your new buddy. It created good chemistry. It's not a game, but an anime called shingeki no Bahamut. Where the antagonist a demon, becomes a antihero ally in the sequel and take down the big bad. I LOVE THAT SHIT
In the original Baldur's Gate, Sarevok was all "FACE ME!!! FACE THE NEW LORD OF MURDER!!!" In Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal, Sarevok was all "Hey, can I tag along?"
I like these longer episodes. Makes me feel like I'm watching a tv show and I used to love binge watching sitcoms. I think 20 to 25 minutes is a perfect length
It was a ruse he only pretended to be an ally to Oswald and Mickey up until his true reasons were revealed after you complete Autopia he even sang a entire song about it.
What about times your mortal enemy was you from another timeline/alternate reality? Thinking along the lines of Cole;Kessler in InFamous and Booker;Comstock in Bioshock Infinite
@@dominateeyeWith someone you regularly committed felonies with? definitely. But with the dude that you saved soley for his hacking skills? Nay, nay I say
I don't know, he was a great friend in the Pre-sequel, to the point where he risked his own life to save you and his coworkers on the Helios space station. He was an equally good villain too. Only issue is I'm not sure if it works here since he started as a friend and became your enemy later if you go by the series' chronological order.
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince but then again, chronologically he is/was still friends with the characters of the presequel during the events of Borderlands 2. But that's just a technicality so I don't know if it counts
@@exquisitecorpse4917 yeah its optional everyone rightly bitches about it. Especially since he needs a little bhaal essence to revive. Dicks can make Imoen do it. I had jaheira in the party wre usually *lost* Khalid to make room for my partner's char.
@@BesterP12 I'll be the first to admit that Khalid is weak compared to Minsk, for example....and god help him if the PC is a fighter class. But he's my dad's friend, and, dammit, I will drag that dead weight all the way to the end!
@@exquisitecorpse4917 all Khalid needs are some gauntlets of ogre power and he's pretty awesome, especially considering his dex is high. I'd still take Anomen wielding the Crom Faeyr over anyone though, personality aside.
You can't call her a friend because she acts in her own best interests and that bit where her and Pete fight the swarm of Nobodies is just so she can take over the castle
Cynder from the Legend of Spyro. When she debuts, she's the main threat. In the next game, she joins your side. In the third game, she becomes the second playable character who will stay by your side.
Revolver Ocelot. Worst enemy of solid snake, sort of friendly rival to Naked Snake, and a solid ally to Venom Snake. Also: Cynder from The Legend of Spyro. The actual final boss of the first game in the trilogy, then an ally, then the actual co-op character.
@@ahzekahriman5840 since *before* MK 1, as Sub Zero killed Scorpion before the game even started and then Scorpion was resurrected as a spirit of vengeance in the service of a dude whose name I can't recall.
You guys missed Gaius from Tales of Xillia 1-2 he was the main antagonists for like the last 30% of the game and was a beloved party member in the soccend game.
Also, still waiting on the Nihilanth-Freeman fanfic ship. Or, really, any followup to the original Half-Life's enslaved eldritch abomination plot whatsoever.
Matt Miller is my favorite Saints Row character. I've always shipped him with Femboss. But yeah, he and I would DEFINITELY be friends, and then date.....I love that British hacker so...Thank you Yuri Lowenthal 💙💙💙💻💻
3:13 oh my gosh mike, how'd you get the rest of the gang to let you make that joke. That's straight up nasty. Feel free to invite me to the next party.
5:27 when you said "powerfull foe" the foe part sounded like you were autotuned which is kinda funny since the clip just before that was glados "screaming in autotune".
Cynder was the main antagonist in Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning, a minor ally in Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night, and then a playable character in Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon.
I would not consider her a valid villain that turned into your friend simply because she was not in control of her own mind in A New Beginning. She was basically a slave.
Can we have an "Enemies who used to be our friends in the prequel" list to round things out
Dutch van der linde
Big Boss
Akira Nishikiyama from Yakuza
Handsome Jack in the Pre-sequel
Saints Row, Jules.
Miles Edgeworth also notably helps Phoenix during a trial *where he is the prosecutor.* I think it was towards the end regarding the DL-6 incident, and one of the suspects/witnesses says something that would technically help his case (or at least not directly go against it). Then all of a sudden you hear him yell "Objection!" and he starts basically doing your job for you in a brief section. He literally teams up with Phoenix because he realizes the defendant isn't guilty, and he wants the actual bad guy put away.
I'm very late but the exact opposite happens as well, where Phoenix helps get a guy Convicted
I love the idea that somewhere there's a girl called Claire from Jane's school watching this going, "what did I do??"
Lmao
So she is also a LIAR in denial! She knows what she did!
She knows what she did
Knowing Jane. She probably saved the world from a space laser.
she knows what she did
Andy and Mike going "Worse than a book!" becomes much funnier when you remember they both studied English
@@realname5127 wow, you sound really toxic and rude.
@@realname5127 I hope this makes you feel as stupid as it makes you look
@@bobdylanlovr69 as an American im sorry its they idiots the rest of the world are exposed to
@@realname5127 bru rly? :/
Honorable Mention: Revolver Ocelot. Yeah, the timeline of the series makes it hard to tell when he becomes a friend, but he is Snake’s friend in The Phantom Pain after being his enemy in Snake Eater. Plus, he’s been our enemy since MGS1, and to finally have him as our ally in MGSV is quite meta.
"'The friend of my friend is my enemy,' which explains why my last party was such a bloodbath."
Funniest. Line. Ever.
Well maybe not _ever_ but definitely a great line.
Also why Mike isn't invited to her parties anymore.
Totally True,
i absolutely fucking love Jane.
@@jardex2275, I thought he wasn't invited anywhere because of his "toilet trivia" .
The Ace Attorney judge just watching various lawyers repeatedly assault Phoenix in various ways every few seconds of the trial like “ok.... this is fine...”
Ol' Udgey is a wet tissue when it comes to prosecutors breaking all kinds of rules in court. He'll allow anything.
Justine Courtney from Investigations 2 on the other hand... She doesn't put up with any of your shit.
I have no idea who Claire is, but if she’s Jane’s enemy, we should all be worried.
Or for the world if both become friends and team up
Dude, isn't Jane evil. Shouldn't we be with Claire?
Granted we won't, cuz Overlord Jane. But still
@@milowolfface9392 "Evil" is but a word used by those who are afraid to challenge the status quo of the contemporary convention of morality.
You are right. Jane has a mortal enemy and neither has had a fatal accident yet. Is either lucky or also has infernal powers.
well if jane didn't have a mortal enemy she'd get bored
then were all doomed and she wouldnt have anything to play with
Technically Miles Edgeworth was Phoenix's friend before becoming a prosecutor
Childhood rivals more like
@@deathbykonami5487 No they are really friends before he was a prosecutor
@@deathbykonami5487 no, they were friends. Back when they were kids someone accused Phoenix of stealing their lunch, and the class decided to hold a mock trial as a sort of teaching lesson about how the court system works (in that series, at least) with Edgeworth serving as Phoenix's defense attorney. It was when Edgeworth's dad was killed and he got brought up by Von Karma that the two drifted apart.
He had a doggy
Full circle
Edgeworth might be a conceited jerk in the first game, but you have to remember he had to suffer almost as much harassment, stupid antics, and painfully awkward situations as Phoenix himself.
Amazing Ace Attorney line: “I was was hoping I would think of something to say while objecting, but I didn’t.”
Hearing Glados beg for life taught me empathy as a child
hearing GLaDOs say "Good news" in the first game taught me what it is to be a lesbian
It was disturbing to hear honestly
@@eternal8song oh same
Personally, I like having a mortal enemy. They're so much easier to deal with than an immortal.
Or being invited places by "mortal friends".
Facts
On the other hand, immortal enemies makes for great punching bags.
@@sinteleon till you’re knocking on Death’s door, at least.
"Constantly producing new evidence, surprise witnesses, and updated autopsy reports. . . "
Oh, you mean like Phoenix?
More like his opposing prosecutors. Phoenix is always the one who does an 11th hour ass pull to counter those things.
@@RanMouri82 its not even an ass pull. Its just plain bs
@@dr.godfather8250 Yes but it's entertaining. And at least the innocent get out of the mess.
@@dr.godfather8250 how is it bs? Spirit channeling is a major part of the Phoenix Wright story arc
Because that really how course cases work death by konami.
N from pokemon black and white, the literal king of the evil team gives you a legendary in black and white 2
N wasn't really a villain
He just wanted what was best for the pokemon. Getsis and the rest of Team Plasma acted without N's knowledge
Besides N's title is more a formality since Team Plasma answers to Getsis alone anyway
@@deathbykonami5487 IIRC, in PokeAni N realised team Plasma was evil and ran away with... Reshiram I believe ? Have seen pretty much none of Gen V's anime.
As these other guys (?) pointed out, N wasn’t strictly a villain, but a rival and puppet. Ghetsis, on the other hand, IS the real villain, and quite frankly, the biggest P.O.S. in the franchise.
@@zacharyjoy8724 no getsis wasn't he was a void of terribleness
@@dracosmith7781, his final goal was to be the only person in Unova that had Pokémon (with the ultimate purpose of total domination of Unova). A version of him appears in US/UM with the same purpose...just with the ultimate purpose of separating all Pokémon from humans (again, for domination). None of the other "big bads" had such lofty goals combined with the success...
"leaving an angry post on the mcr subreddit" no wonder I had a crush on him
A more accurate one would be "critiquing Nyteblade fan fiction"
@@deathbykonami5487 and/ or writing his own.
And if you haven't played SR4 yet, I highly recommend it. Superpowers, Dubstep gun that can cause chaos and mayhem once fully upgraded, and the option to romance little Matty, who is now 21 at the time of 4 and legal across the board as he was 16 in 3. Win- win all the way around. Plus, a hidden surprise or two that are best left unspoiled unless you've played it. Still miffed that they didn't include the Gat Out of Hell DLC with the Switch port of 4. That DLC better drop as SR 4.5 or something.
I still have a crush on him 💙💙💙💙 Matt and me would definitely be friends, then date.
@@GenAqua ***Sits in crushing on the robot Keebo from Danganronpa***
1 down vote at the moment.
I think her name is Claire
I don't understand how is Claire your enemy? She is the sister of Chris and in re 2 she has a crush on Leon. Only played re 2 2019
She knows what she did, and she does not repent.
K 9 Poodle maybe it’s because she has a crush on Jane’s BaBy Leon.
65 downs now fake accounts of Claire
Claire! As in Claire Redfield, makes sense with Jane's role as an evil scientist.
My name is Claire and for a brief moment I was shocked and terrified that I might have somehow upset Jane at school. Considering I have never been pursued by her killbots, wolves and death rays, I'm going to assume she's talking about another Claire....
She's watching you
I’m sorry Claire but if you went to the same high school as Jd, it’s safe it’s just not associate with you. She strikes me as long game kind of gal.
My name is also Claire, and I have been chased by Killbots and Deathrays, but not Wolves, So I guess it must be a different one 🤔
@@lordpineapp7977 My name is not claire and I haven’t been chased by any of those.. I can’t be Claire
"There's no honourableness among people who steal things"
Jane Douglas, 2019
I think it was a reference to uncharted2 among thieves
@@kurtsudheim825 Its a proverb from the 1800's too.
Jane keeps alluding to a Claire and it's messing with me as I just finished watching a Bon Appetite video with Claire Saffitz, lol.
Ahh back when we still watched Bon Appetite videos.
@@adwnpinoy I know, right? What a shame...
MacCready in Fallout 3 was a little d-bag, but he wasn’t exactly an enemy, so idk if he counts. In Fo4 he’s a great companion though - his perk is awesome.
I installed killable kids just for that little shit
"Oh hi. So, how are you holding up? Because I'm a *potato* ."
Best quote from any video game, ever!!!
BIRD BIRD BIRD KILL IT
Glados was fucking great in Portal 2. Her every line was pure gold.
I genuinely loved her, I just wished she had more dialogue.
*clap, clap, clap* "Oh, good. My slow clap processor made it into this thing. So we have that."
I love the conversations offscreen.
Jane: Write that down.
Off Screen: On it!
Off Screen is my favourite OX member.
David Leonard Flanagan well I mean this is a common situation and if I said “Andy:” the Off Screen voice varies based on the skit, but those conversations are my favorite parts of the videos.
"It's almost like there's no honorableness among people who steal things." Jane Douglas 2019
"There's no honorableness among people who steal things" -Jane Douglas, 2019
Someone write that down.
Robin Hood:
Sly Cooper:
“Am I a joke to you?”
I LOVE Edgeworth but Andy's rant on how much of a jerk he was had me rolling on the floor
I'd like to see a list of games where your protagonist was silent in the first, and have voices in the sequel. A good example is Isaac Clarke in the Dead Space series.
7:24 Poison Ivy "decides you guys are best buddies" .... I can't believe you didn't go for the "best buds" pun.
Andy, I'm disappointed in you.
Same
Mortal enemy becoming your best friend
Yea that's my entire high school experience
Yugi? Or movie Goku?
Or just when you bump into your middle school bully when you’re 30.
That's my fanfiction experience.
Could we get a reverse list?
Best friends who become your enemies in the next game.
Fantastic idea
I got one! Dex from Saints Row.
Frag Grrl you could also say handsome Jack since he was your friend in the pre sequel and your enemy in Borderlands 2
I hope they include Nishki from yakuza kiwami
Wheatley. Portal 2.
Panda King and Dimitri from sly cooper and the thievious racconus and sly 2 respectively become good friends of sSy in Sly 3
Micayah Ritchie was looking through comments to see if anyone mentioned them
I was hoping someone would mention that
My first thought upon clicking on this video.
What about the Geth, more specifically Legion, from Mass Effect?
The geth were never really an enemy though. The heretics were, but they definitely didn't become friends later. MAYBE "allies" if you were a douche and indoctrinated them.
Legion wouldn't count. However, the Geth in general would be kinda tricky for me since, yes they are enemies in the game but they never wanted to be in the first place.
"Naked, Confused and Covered in Unidentified Fluids"
The Mike Channel Story.
Wait, no, I do *not* want to see that...
I need to know this “Claire” story. Seems like repressed emotions all over the place.
It's Jane, Claire was probably saving the world from an eldritch being.
@@jackswan3420 And then she was put to the sword by the Queen's Guard! No one defies our Lady and gets away with it!
"You're not a clown, you are the entire circus."
No borderlands the pre sequel? The handsomest jack doesn’t even get mentioned as a villain who became the friend of our beautiful fragtrap unit?
because he technically WAS your friend, and then became your enemy
YOUR NAME I know, but most people didn’t play the games chronologically. The pre sequel was much less advertised so mostly only fans of the series bought it. Fair point though
YOUR NAME also you could argue that (spoiler for some lore)
that when jack makes angel tell them to get off the bus which shapes the first game and sets him up to be the one who was truly manipulating them and then he becomes the friend as seen with lilith and roland in the pre sequel
Because this is all about people that ended up turning into friends. What you described was the other way around
Was thinking of handsome jack aswel
Dimitri from the Sly Cooper series. his "kinetic aesthetic" was well needed by the Cooper gang
Bullet Biters Panda King as well, I loved his mission where he had to struggle with his past and old hate of Sly.
Yes him too. I loved playing as him in Sky 3 during General Tsao's mission
He keeps things GREASY SWEET!
If scorpion and Sub zero can go from mortal (hehe) enemies to best friends then anything is possible
Impossible, that didn't happen.
It did in mkx and mk11
Well, you see, that is a possibility, because they were only mortal enemies. Which is to say, were only enemies for the span of one lifetime, which, being immortal, is not a very long time at all
heheing isn't a word tard, it's called laughing.
Well technically Scorpion was enemy with Bi Han (the Elder Sub Zero who then become Noob Saibot). He wasn't much of an enemy to Kuai Ling (Tundra who then become the current Sub Zero)
Jane: "... logically the friend of my friend must be my enemy"
Me: wow you guys are really good at making proverbs
Also Jane: "There's no honourableness among people who steal things"
Me: nvm
I thought it was a reference to uncharted2 among thieves
Cortex becomes our ally in Crash Twinsanity. Granted, it's reluctantly, and only for that one game, but it was still a pleasant surprise.
And now the same happened again in Crash 4
Jane any video with you in it is absolute perfection.
Billie Lurk from the Dishonored games. Whaler (and therefore Corvo’s enemy) then she betrays Daud in the DLC so she’s actually your enemy twice before being indispensable in the sequel.
Until she tries to kill the Outsider for no good reason, that guy tries to keep Dunwall and Carnaca from destroying themselves, hence why he gives Corvo and Emily their void powers and only gets passively pissed during the high chaos ending
@@deathbykonami5487 I haven't played the DLC of 2 yet, and since I consider the DLC of 1 to basically be a separate game I figured DOTO would be the same. So she basically just flip-flops each time.
"Matt Miller. Pictured here, leaving an angry comment on the my chemical romance subreddit" is bar none, the best thing I have ever heard. Also accurate. He would.
What's it like, being the funniest person alive, Mike????
If IV is anything to go by, he's probably rewriting people's Nyteblayde fanfiction, or just deleting other people's fanfiction and replacing it with his own (I mean his online password is literally MattxNyteBlayde)
Why is it for a fraction of a second looked like noel fielding?
Major Ocelot in Metal Gear Solid 3 became Big Boss’ most loyal adviser, following him to the very end.
The twist of that game is he was never really your enemy at all, he was sent to help you
To be fair he became _Venom's_ advisor.
Hm, wasn't that the other way around? I mean, I remember Big Boss advising Ocelot on how to avoid epic fails with everything he tried to do... :D
@@Brainwave101 He helped Big Boss carry out Zero's body double plan successfully and stuck with Venom to the very end as his advisor too,so he was loyal to both Big Bosses...
One that immediately comes to mind is Sarevok, the main antagonist from Baldur's Gate being a potential companion in BG2's Throne of Bhaal expansion. He's pretty useful too.
I loved Edgeworth, even from the beginning.
He’s a great rival/character
So did Wright.
I’m surprised Jeanne from “Bayonetta” wasn’t on this list! She’s the very definition of mortal enemies that become you’re best friend in the sequel!
And Luka!
Well, it's not like she hated your guts then had a change of heart. Poor thing was brainwashed.
In Jeanne's defence, she was apparently brainwashed.
yeah she doesn't count as 1) she actually becomes your friend near the end of the game and 2) she was brainwashed and was on your side the whole time (in fact, her killing angels who were on ehr side might've been like her brainwashing not being perfect)
She totes saves Bayonetta in the first game and Bayonetta returns the favor in the second game.
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No Jane, the Netscape Navigator is not dead!! It lives on in our hearts as the greatest browser no one will ever remember!! (Fun Fact: Every browser and website regularly uses a later version of the Javascript language and it was invented by Netscape in the early & the mid-'90s.)
Ah the legend of Master Chief, the Arbiter , Steve , and Dave , a greater team of heroes I never did see.
Did you know the player 3 and 4 elites actually have names? I can't remember what they are, but they are named.
@@ewanreilly2988 ye I'm pretty sure they are in one of the halo books
"Went from being the highest ranked elite in the covenant." Actually bud.... In Halo 2 the Tittle of Arbiter was the lowest rank. The suicide mission rank, it was a tittle of shame and humiliation until Halo 3.
At least you tried to give Arbiter some cred though.
Cynder from the legend of spyro games was actually the final boss of the first game. Two games later and she's a playable character.
They probably just read the first half of the wiki entry where it talks about how it once was the highest rank, and became the lowest after a traitor.
"Though considered a commanding role of high esteem, the Arbiter was condemned to a life of suicidal missions to regain his honor." Still sounds like a pretty high rank to me.
Also, the Arbiter doesn't even belong on this list. He wasn't the main antagonist of Halo 2, he was a protagonist and already allied with the UNSC by the end of Halo 2. The actual antagonists of Halo 2 are the Gravemind, the Prophets, and Tartar sauce.
@@slueepy1232 actually you are a boring sad nerd and you actively made that whole series of interactions worse with your input! Congratulations!
I really wish you'd had the subtitles on for the Portal 2 clips. GLaDOS's voice doesn't register on the auto-captions.
I am aware your comment is nearly a year old, but just in case this helps (I'm hard of hearing myself, so I missed one word that I just couldn't make out. It might be 'purging'):
3:22
GLaDOS: "Oh, it's you. It's been a long time."
Wheatley: "You know her?"
GLaDOS: "How have you been? I've been really busy being dead. You know, after you murdered me."
3:56
GLaDOS: "Thank you for participating in this Aperture Science computer-aided enrichment activity. Goodbye."
4:22
Wheatley: "There she is. What a nasty piece of work she was, honestly. Like a proper maniac. Do you know who ended up (inaudible) her, who ended up taking her down in the end? You're not going to believe this. A human!"
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GLaDOS: "Oh, it's you. It's been a long time."
Wheatley: "You know her?"
4:45
GLaDOS: "Stop! No! No! No! No! No! (high-pitched screaming)"
5:45
GLaDOS: "We're at an impasse. So what do you say: you carry me up to him and put me back into my body and I stop us from blowing up and let you go."
5:58
GLaDOS: "If you can get me in front of him I'll fry every circuit in that little idiot's head."
6:09
GLaDOS: "I thought you were my greatest enemy, when all along you were my best friend."
Hope that helps!
(Edited to fix a spelling mistake.)
@@BelleVanSchijndel yep, that unknown word is purging.
Goro Majima. Joker-type antagonist and kidnapper in "Yakuza", Wise-cracking indispensable ally and goofball in "Yakuza 2".
Majima was always a frenemy, not a full antagonist
He is more like a fanboy than a fremeny. He is basically obsessed with Kiryu.
I wouldn’t call Majima an enemy since he can act like a bro too when they’re not fighting. He have good reason fighting Kiryu which is making Kiryu stronger.
Majima isn't an enemy. Just a bro with questionable and exhausting methods to get Kiryu back into fighting shape. All with good intention.
@@undyne1 In "Kiwami", that is a... possible interpretation. In the original, where his only interactions with Kiryu are the cutscene fight in the beginning, the kidnapping of Haruka and batting cage fight, and the ramming a truck into Shangri-la and subsequent fight... no.
Personally, I am of the opinion that anyone who kidnaps a traumatised nine-year-old for whatever reason, let alone one as petty as picking a fight for amusement's sake, is a villain, period. I have come to terms with the fact that the rest of the "Yakuza"-fandom seems to disagree, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
I was just thinking, would Legion from Mass Effect 2 and 3 count? He is a Geth and you do spend most of Mass Effect fighting the Geth. Since the Geth are Shepard's enemy, would Legion count as an enemy turned friend? I think so
Probably not, since the Geth from ME1 are the Heretics that worship the Reapers, while Legion's on the side of the 95% of the Geth who literally just want to be left alone
Think we're only counting individual characters. But you never specifically fight Legion. Legion also shows no signs of hostility towards Shepherd.
No, Legion wouldn't count. He's from a completely different sect than the one you fought in ME1. His group was never technically against you in the first place.
Now, depending on how you play Shepard, Cerberus could count. Sure, TIM, Jacob, and Miranda all insist that the Cerberus labs you raided in ME1 belonged to rogue cells, but seeing what TIM has had done to the troopers in the short time from ME2 to ME3 makes me think those earlier experiments were probably a bit more official than we were meant to think.
I think so as well.
How about Dimitri lousteau in the Sly Cooper series. He was the First boss in Band of Thieves, but becomes a valued Ally in Honor among Thieves and Thieves in Time. And he's hilarious.
I like you, random citizen.
Same with the Panda King.
Gotta keep it smooth
@@Storm_Bird456 the Panda King was never friends with Sly. It's more like they just agreed to work together since the Panda King owed Sly a debt
And his fashion sense is awesome
If it's any consolation, the Ivy that died was probably a plant stand-in double.
What about starting out as your friend, then becoming your enemy, then RE-becoming your friend in the sequel, like Riku, from Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2?
Does PLAYING as your enemy from the first game count, or would it be another list? Because Golden Sun : TLA would fit the mold.
First game: play as four heroes that try to prevent lighthouses from being lit.
Second game: play as two "enemies" (plus two randos) from the first game, and _light_ the lighthouses.
Also: I saw Axel/Lea from Kingdom Hearts in the comments, and I also vote for him.
It always gives me heart to hear other bring up Golden Sun.
Two of my favourite GBA games to be created by far.
Is having different methods of achieving a common goal (saving Weyland either via lighting the lighthouses and unleashing alchemy unto the world, forcing it to be rebirth or letting it rot slowly) considered "enemies"?
Then again, Golden Sun is legendary. Shame Ivan, Mia, Felix and his co. don't have cameos in Dark Dawn.
What no mention of scorpion and Sub-Zero they are literally one of the oldest enemies in games
STEFIX yeah
Tales of Xillia, Gaius and Muzet go from being the final villains of the first game to joining your team in the second game. Not really best friends but they still came along way.
Saravok from Baldur's Gate? By Throne of Bhaal he can become a party member, and even turned good!
That's exactly what I thought of when I clicked on this video !
Master hand from Smash series! Villain in the first, ally in the last..
I think you forgot Crazy Hand too since he did help as well
Dishonored 2, Billie. "Hey, I was on the team the killed Jessamine but now let's be friends and take trips on my boat!"
To be fair, in canon Corvo even spared Daud. Guess Corvo and Emily just believe greatly in forgive and forget.
Same thing with Handsome Jack. Just waaaay worse
Billie also hid that from Emily until the last mission, I think there is an option to kill her when you find out, and even the friendliest option has Emily (haven't gotten that far as Corvo) tell Billie she never wants to see her again.
Corvo SPARED Daud in canon?? Did that poison give him brain damage temporarily? I absolutely butchered that fucker.
Not to mention, Edgeworth can help lay down a sick beat. See here: Ace Attorney: Smooth Criminal
How about the Mystery Skulls video, "Money"? I dont know if I love the song because of the video or just because of the song lol.
Miles are you okay?
So, Miles, are you okay? Are you okay Miles?
First thing I thought of when I read the title was Axel from Kingdom Hearts.
Would riku count too? Im not sure
I guess I was the only one thinking of Shinobu. I find that kinda funny because I played kingdom hearts as though I couldn’t live without when I got the game. Though, I only got to watch videos for no more heroes.
@@easyr5303
I mean, if you change the title to "7 times your best friend became your mortal enemy then became your best friend again".
"Defeat equals friendship" is one of my favorite tropes in animé and games. Is it cliché? Yes. But I love it.
Same here. Especially when the supposed bad guy has a compelling backstory, or your character decides not to kill them. I love seeing bad guys become good guys. Like pretty much everyone on this list, especially Edgeworth(who is my favorite one). I love the Ace Attorney series. It's too bad we never got the sequel to Ace Attorney Investigations though...Edgeworth is like Vegeta, but calmer, and like Andy said, "dresses like a 17th century vampire". But he's got sharp and spiky hair like Vegeta's so that's something?
Without watching I can bet that GlaDOS would be on here somewhere
It's there
PREDICTOR
You guys: Super Mario RPG. Bowser joins Mario to save the world.
also Super Paper Mario
Yes! I remember Browser even giving Mario a pep talk in paper mario
Thats enemies to friends, back to enemies, and then go-karting rival.
I really love this trope. It feels so nice and I love antagonist having character development along with witness between protag and your new buddy. It created good chemistry. It's not a game, but an anime called shingeki no Bahamut. Where the antagonist a demon, becomes a antihero ally in the sequel and take down the big bad. I LOVE THAT SHIT
I really like an antagonist that becomes the hero's friend :)
Knuckles from Sonic 3. He's kind of an idiot, but he becomes playable in the expansion, and the sequel. And Sonic Heroes, most notably.
Huh. I was sure Protoman would be on the list, given how he's probably one of the biggest examples of this.
In the original Baldur's Gate, Sarevok was all "FACE ME!!! FACE THE NEW LORD OF MURDER!!!"
In Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal, Sarevok was all "Hey, can I tag along?"
I like these longer episodes. Makes me feel like I'm watching a tv show and I used to love binge watching sitcoms. I think 20 to 25 minutes is a perfect length
Ada Wong, goes from messing with you, to RE6 where she is more helpful than a girl scout.
True
What about Epic Mickey? The evil doctor literally sings a song as he becomes an ally
It was a ruse he only pretended to be an ally to Oswald and Mickey up until his true reasons were revealed after you complete Autopia he even sang a entire song about it.
jordan davidson I fell for the classic “If he sings he must be good” blunder
@@jordanp.davidson5977 If you use paint on his Machineninnthe final battle,he realizes the error of his ways,saves Mickey And Oswald,and sings.
What about times your mortal enemy was you from another timeline/alternate reality?
Thinking along the lines of Cole;Kessler in InFamous and Booker;Comstock in Bioshock Infinite
CLAIRE
Is the reason Jane didn’t like her is that the infectious madness of doctor Dekker was creeping her out
I just watched the first 30 seconds and I can feel the passive aggressive. This is why outsideXbox is amazing.
Matt Miller? I wouldn't say best friend. Even with *that* scene.
What about after his romance scene?
@@dominateeyeWith someone you regularly committed felonies with? definitely. But with the dude that you saved soley for his hacking skills? Nay, nay I say
What about during his loyalty mission when the Boss starts to share his appreciation for Knightblade?
@@battlesheep2552 respect for his likes/dislikes, yes. The "Playa" still doesn't stan Knightblade like Miller.
You forgot Ben King, when went from a Rival Gang Leader, to your Ally after a 2 Game Absent.
Borderlands 2/pre sequel Handsome Jack was a great villian not too much of a great friend but still.
Try him in Tales...
I don't know, he was a great friend in the Pre-sequel, to the point where he risked his own life to save you and his coworkers on the Helios space station. He was an equally good villain too. Only issue is I'm not sure if it works here since he started as a friend and became your enemy later if you go by the series' chronological order.
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince Fair argument but still, Handsome jack!
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince but then again, chronologically he is/was still friends with the characters of the presequel during the events of Borderlands 2. But that's just a technicality so I don't know if it counts
I was just about to type something like tHiS
Seravok from Baldur's Gate. Main bad guy but in Throne of bhaal he's an optional party member.
I knew I'd find somebody as old as me here. ;-)
@@exquisitecorpse4917 yeah its optional everyone rightly bitches about it. Especially since he needs a little bhaal essence to revive. Dicks can make Imoen do it.
I had jaheira in the party wre usually *lost* Khalid to make room for my partner's char.
Only good thing about that is if you do it, he gets a little piece of Imoen stuck in his head which causes an interesting banter.
@@BesterP12 I'll be the first to admit that Khalid is weak compared to Minsk, for example....and god help him if the PC is a fighter class. But he's my dad's friend, and, dammit, I will drag that dead weight all the way to the end!
@@exquisitecorpse4917 all Khalid needs are some gauntlets of ogre power and he's pretty awesome, especially considering his dex is high. I'd still take Anomen wielding the Crom Faeyr over anyone though, personality aside.
Matt Miller is just one of those people you love to hate, even when you become friends.
Maleficient from the Kingdom Hearts Series? Main enemy in the first installment, unexpected ally against Organization XIII in the second?
You can't call her a friend because she acts in her own best interests and that bit where her and Pete fight the swarm of Nobodies is just so she can take over the castle
She's not really a friend. Maybe Axel would work though.
Yeaaaaaah. Dr. Baldhead aka Faust. I loved his taunt, when he took of his paper bag to show his (obscured) face
So he had a paper bag under his paper bag? That, in combination with that butt poke move... seriously reminds me of Kakashi.
How about the OG enemy turned friend: Knuckles from Sonic 3 becomes a playable ally in Sonic & Knuckles
Cynder from the Legend of Spyro.
When she debuts, she's the main threat. In the next game, she joins your side. In the third game, she becomes the second playable character who will stay by your side.
Revolver Ocelot. Worst enemy of solid snake, sort of friendly rival to Naked Snake, and a solid ally to Venom Snake.
Also: Cynder from The Legend of Spyro. The actual final boss of the first game in the trilogy, then an ally, then the actual co-op character.
Nothing about Scorpion and Sub Zero in MK11??
SAD!
Neither was really a villain
Joey Weems the title says mortal enemies not villain
They've been duking it out since MK 1 Kid.
@@ahzekahriman5840 since *before* MK 1, as Sub Zero killed Scorpion before the game even started and then Scorpion was resurrected as a spirit of vengeance in the service of a dude whose name I can't recall.
olivinator Quan chi
You guys missed Gaius from Tales of Xillia 1-2 he was the main antagonists for like the last 30% of the game and was a beloved party member in the soccend game.
Andy: "You have to cross examine a parrot."
Me: Well you would be cross if you had to examine a parrot used as a witness in court. 😋
I don't know why but you're comment is glitched so it shows me your comment from GrayStillPlays
One upped by cross examining an orca in the 5th game
Curly from three stooges did lmao
She may be a parrot but she sang like a canary
Vortigaunts in Half-Life 2 are surprisingly forgiving for the number of their friends and family Dr Freeman crowbarred to death in Black Mesa...
Well, Freeman didn't have a choice, he was just defending himself.
@@lifeincolour09 True. But then, they didn't have a choice either.
Perhaps they'll be vortigaunts in the commentator edition.
Technically speaking, he "freed" them...from their miserable lives.
Also, still waiting on the Nihilanth-Freeman fanfic ship. Or, really, any followup to the original Half-Life's enslaved eldritch abomination plot whatsoever.
Matt Miller is my favorite Saints Row character. I've always shipped him with Femboss. But yeah, he and I would DEFINITELY be friends, and then date.....I love that British hacker so...Thank you Yuri Lowenthal 💙💙💙💻💻
Weirdo
3:13 oh my gosh mike, how'd you get the rest of the gang to let you make that joke. That's straight up nasty.
Feel free to invite me to the next party.
Plot twist, Claire is Jane's buddy in the next video.
sgtraytango If they don’t do that in commentor edition it will be a real missed opportunity.
Sarevok, from Baldur's Gate 1 was the main villain. In Baldur's Gate 2 he's an (optional) companion.
I love Andy's ongoing vendetta with the Riddler. I think *someone* struggled with the puzzles...
Bold of you to assume Edgeworth only became your best friend in the sequel, he’s clearly now Phoenix’s husband.
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when you said "powerfull foe" the foe part sounded like you were autotuned which is kinda funny since the clip just before that was glados "screaming in autotune".
Possibly Serial Killer X in the Condemned series.
Also Knuckles in the Sonic games.
No mention of Axel in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories being Sora and Roxas' friend in later games?
2019 and we just got a spoiler warning for saints row 3. I love yall. That is so sweet.
OBJECTION!
Edgeworth was Pheonix best friend from his childhood
Cynder was the main antagonist in Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning, a minor ally in Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night, and then a playable character in Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon.
I would not consider her a valid villain that turned into your friend simply because she was not in control of her own mind in A New Beginning. She was basically a slave.
What about Cynder in the Spyro reboot? Goes from big bad of the first game to an ally in the second to his mate in the third.