I'd like to know how ole would of done under the ineos structure. I think it would of worked better for him. Ineos would of listend to ole for when he recommended haaland for what 19 million? Shame the glazers completely ignored him😢
No trophies just a second place merchant, on top of that people scream about the second place finish but United were 12 points behind city, not like city were quivering they were running away with it it wasn’t even close and this is coming from a man united fan, ole is the worst manager on this list
It’s quite awkward listening to Rory talk about people not being qualified enough, or having the experience and knowledge to step up to the job that they are being asked to do, while he himself is trying to carve out a career talking about football 😂😂😂😂
Ole made united feel like united again. It’s very similar to how arsenal fans feel with arteta. You can tell he’s building something. Ole literally finished 2nd in the Man City vs Liverpool dominant era.
@@Deathmare235 still doesn’t change the fact it was one of liverpools dominant teams under klopp. Yes there were injuries. But still. Ole finished above klopp and on top of that. He had the same amount of losses with pep that year. He could’ve won the league if it wasn’t for all those draws
Complete disrespect to Ole. First 2 and half seasons were very good. Exciting to watch, got United playing attacking football and had Rashford, Martial, Cavani, Bruno and Greenwood scoring plenty, had good records against big teams, Maguire was a solid leader at the back during those seasons. His demise sadly was bringing Ronaldo back (as much as I love him). Lost pace and pressure up top and completely changed the tempo of attacking. The lack of press made it easy for teams to play out through us. Think I recall us being 1st by new year in one of those seasons too. I would have him as number 1 tbh.
@@onlyweatherlol93and some trophies are more important than others also think about the transfers, van gaal was responsible for losing both Di maria and kroos
He finished 2nd during a covid year and it was a distant 2nd. City only needed 86 points to win the league. He finished 3rd the year before with only 66 points. Ronaldo wasn't the problem, the issue was it raised expectations and he needed to challenge for the league. So he decided to stop playing mcfred. Bought Sancho as an RW and played him LW too. He had one of the most talented squads post Fergie, but played sit back and counter and relied on individual brilliance.
I'm a bit on the fence with Ole. The signing of Ronaldo absolutely did him in, as we could no longer play the way we had up to that point under him. We beat Southampton 9-0 at one point, were briefly top of the table, and got better and better until that summer. All of a sudden a massive drop-off when we signed Ronaldo. That all said, I'm not sure he would have been the man to take us much further than he did. We indeed played counter-attacking football most of the time, which is fine, but that's all Ole had up his sleeve. Nonetheless, since Fergie retired, the second season under Ole was the most I've enjoyed football in general. I just wish we could turn back the clock and sign someone else instead of Ronaldo.
I agree, Sam. We have two non-United fans arguing with an actual United fan and saying he's wrong. A West Ham fan saying that Moyes was a better United manager than Ole and saying it's not because of bias, while also saying that Joe only ranks Ole because of bias. The hypocrisy is off the charts here. Then he ranked ten Hag 2nd while calling him rubbish? I can't wait for us to finally "be back" so we can shut all these clowns up again.
@@LW-xc9gm Who? And what has that got to do with United's previous managers and how they should be ranked. Saying Moyes was a better United manager than OGS is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Ole is underrated. Usually played well against the big teams, had a great away record being unbeaten in 28 away league games, and finished 2nd in the league at one point. Not to mention was a penalty kick away from winning a European trophy.
@onlyweatherlol93 but 1st priority is the league. Here is the priority list.. 1) Win League 2) Win UCL 3) Win UEL 4) UCl qualifications 5) Win conference league 6) Win FA Cup 7) Win League Cup 8) europa qualification 9) conference qualification
1. Mou (best by a mile) 2. Ole (hes not as bad or as good as some make out) 3. Ten Hag (neck and neck with ole) 4. Ragnick - sure the record wasnt great but he publicly addressed the problems we all knew existed and i think our players were so toxic he couldnt get anything out of them. 5. Van Gall I dont like hating Rory but honestly 😬😬. Just keep Niamh/Nieve as a permanent guest.
ole worse than van gaal n moyes thats crazy we at least finished 3rd n 2nd with him whilst moyes finished 7th and van gaal 4th n 5th during probs the worsy quality prem era ever
Compare the squads, Ole had better players, more time and more money spent than the other two. You can’t just discount Van Gaals FA cup win. As for Moyes, he definitely had a worse squad and a pretty much impossible job replacing Sir Alex, I think he could definitely sit lower than Ole but even so, if somebody placed him higher than Ole there would be a case for them to make.
The Ole disrepect is absolutely wild. Got the team playing the best football, finished second, would’ve won trophies if De Gea wasn’t a hologram and broke the PL away game record. Insane, he’s in last positions!
@@eddysfootballwaffle5975 Mourinho and LVG football was boring, ETH’s style is too open and Rangnick was woeful. Ole’s team’s scored a lot of goals and got results. What’s wrong with sitting back and countering against the bigger teams, especially when we won! That’s literally United DNA.
1. Mourinho 2. Ten Haag 3. Solskjaer 4. Van Gaal 5. Moyes Gonna quickly explain my reasoning. Moyes finishes last because he took over from a title winning team, got rid of the experienced coaching staff, brought in his own lot from Everton and then signed Fellaini. Was a disaster. I like Van Gaal and generally I think his time here was underrated. However, he got rid of a lot of players who should never have left. Chicharito being one of them. You can never take away from him the fact he managed to win a Cup though and kept United ticking over in that respect. Solskjaer comes 3rd and not lower, because people generally forget how well he did until his final season. No trophy, but gave United some self respect again, brought back some old coaching staff from the Ferguson era, and oversaw the Return of Ronaldo. Ten Haag is a worthy second despite all the pressure he is under, for the simple fact that he's won 2 cups in 2 seasons. The first season especially was exciting and lifted the morale of the whole club. The second season was hampered by several injuries to key players, yet despite this managed to still secure a cup by the end of the season. Mourinho comes in first for a few reasons. I still remember how much flack he took by some fans and by the media (a lot of these fans being shamefully influenced by the media by the way), but he achieved the highest points tally post Sir Alex Ferguson by some margin (81 points) - as well as adding the Europa League and League Cup to the trophy cabinet, and for a club like Manchester United the ability to keep that trophy cabinet ticking over is huge. His style of play wasn't hugely popular but it brought results, like it or not
I’m on Joe’s side here. It’s extraordinary the way the other two non Man Utd fans teamed up. Ole, although it fizzled out completely and got toxic, was really really good in that first season, it’s quite painful listening to Rory who is totally unqualified in knowledge telling the Man U fan thst he’s being biased.
Rory is consistently inconsistent, at one point he will point at purely based on the results for the club, and not shortly after he'll point at historical records with previous clubs. Having him on can always cause some controversy, but it's rarely based on as factual opinions as I believe he thinks he has
This list from Rory and James is ludicrous, in terms of actual enjoyment and performance in the league, Ole should be first. 2nd and 3rd in the league, 6-2, 9-0, 5-1 and several other high scoring victories. Had Pep’s number. Would have won Europa if DDG could save a PDF file.
Sky sports fell off hard... Having a West Ham fan and a Chelsea fan ranking Man Utd managers is just ridiculous in itself.. The disrespect on Solskjaer just shows that neither of them actually watched any United games during the years. This was a hard watch...
Solskjaer wasn’t good he was average no trophies … being second and then nothing to show just like arsenal last two seasons 2nd place and no trophies to show
Moyes - Never managed a top club. Never won a top trophy. Van Gaal - Was building, but sacked after winning Cup in 2nd season. Jose - Played boring football because it was the only way to get results. Ole - Never managed a big club. Ralf - Sacked after saying the club needed open heart surgery. Never did much. ETH - Has a good couple seasons at Ajax. That's about it. Manchester United set a very low bar when it comes to appointing managers, or had a thin skin when it came to managers criticising the club.
Laughable how Spencer is going in on Ole "what did he win? what did he achieve?" while he puts Moyes above him who did nothing and got sacked 10 months into the job. Ole's squad obviously had more money spent on it, but Moyes LITERALLY inherited a title winning squad. Just like he mentions how Slot can just pick up where Klopp left off, the same argument can be made for Moyes too, but he changed so much when he came in and look how that went. He only had himself to blame for his downfall tbh
@@lewisepicfootycontent5934but the Haaland call was so misguided and based on being the guy with the contrarian view just for the sake of it, that you should just disregard his opinion regardless
As of now I don't see how anyone can argue with that list. At least if you're a rival fan anyway, we all know some rival fan will try to make it out like moyes was underrated and was the best manager
1. Ten Hag 2. Ole Gunnar 3. Mourinho 4. Van Gaal 5. Ralf Ragnick I can explain my reason: Ralf was appointed for 6 months or so and did what he was appointed for. Pointing out the loopholes of the club and the squad. He offered solutions but we all know they were needed to carry out by a more experienced coach. Van Gaal stabilized the club but United is not a 43 goals a season type of club. Failed with many important signings. The squad at his time still had players who could win titles but he could not get the best out of them. Yes, he could have been given more time after the FA cup win but he did not have it because his style of football did not reflect the club. Mourinho is probably more dearly rated now than when he was our coach. He gave us 2 trophies, EFL cup and Europa League. But again, losing the dressing room and throwing players under the bus is typical of him when he starts losing. His defensive style of football again did not reflect the club philosophy (which is why I think his recruitment was a mistake in the first place. The owners did not know what type of football they expected out of the club). His boring display over a 3-1 loss to Liverpool at the back of many lacklustre losses cost him his job Ole brought the identity of the team back. It was the first time and probably the only time the team played to its philosophy of direct attacking football. His away record is tremendous, finished in Champions League spots in both the seasons, 2nd and 3rd. Managed the club through a broken structure and never got the transfers he wanted, spending 2 years to bring in Sancho, never got a DM, wanted Haaland but did not get him. Was one penalty away from a trophy. The team did not look beatable on any day by any of the top 6 teams. Ten Hag has taken the long route of rebuilding the team. He also has a decent share of misjudgment like bringing in Antony but the money is the failure of transfer negotiation, not him. He got us couple of trophies, the only other manager to do so after Mourinho. The difference being the style of football is yet not as boring as it was under Mourinho. The team is transitioning with a lot changing at the background. The manager can be given 1 more year (this season) to prove his metal and to declare if he indeed is the best manager post Fergie. He is just in the top spot because he has just met the stature of the other managers and have the potential to go one step further. But can he take that step, only time will tell.
1. Jose Mourinho. The best manager we had in terms of success. 2 trophies in his first year and finished 2nd the following year and a FA Cup final to boot. Unfortunately his 3rd season meltdown was around the corner and it was no exceptions. 2. Ole Gunnar Solksjaer. Could have easily been #1 had he won the Europa League final. Silverware had eluded him after multiple semi finals and a final. Back to back top 3 finishes and we were scoring goals for fun and had moments. His limitations as a manager was well documented and it showed near the end of the season we've finished 2nd place. His downfall came after losing to Villarreal in the Europa League final and signing Ronaldo sped up his demise and his fate was sealed after losing to Watford. 3. Erik Ten Hag aka Dr Robotnik. The only reason he's above LVG and Moyes is because of winning the FA Cup and League Cup. Other than that, he played a role in our worst ever season with an 8th place finish with a negative goal difference. Still not good enough to be above Ole and Mourinho. 4. Louis Van Gaal. A FA Cup win is what kept him above Moyes. LVG sold most of our attacking players like Kagawa, Hernandez, Van Persie, Zaha, Nani, Di Maria and completely stripped the squad to bring in dross players like Memphis, Schneiderlin, Rojo, a passed it Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Falcao and his football was so boring that you have more joy watching paint dry. He's the only manager to have a proper structure but his broken football philosophy was so predictable he refused to tweek it and his fate was sealed after failing to finish in the top 4. 5. David Moyes. Easily our worst manager by far and was out of his depth. Should have never been hired in the first place. Moyes was decent for Everton and West Ham but Manchester United was a step too far.
Disrespect to ole is crazy a lot of people make some great points in favour of solskjaer but i dont see anyone talk about his record against big clubs regularly got good results against pep
Ten Haag has set about 40 Man U records, including lowest ever PL league position (8th), lowest ever PL goal difference (-1), first time ever with a minus GD, Most defeats before Xmas since 1930 (13), most defeats in a PL league season (14), Finished bottom of the Champions League with Copenhagen in it, Lowest Champions League points tally ever, First team to allow Galatasaray to win on English soil in 117 years, Manchester United hadn't gone 4 games in a row without scoring in the PL until Ten Haag, He set another new record last week being the first ever Man U manager to lose by 3 goals in 3 PL gams in the last 12 months. Long may his success continue
Sir Alex Ferguson left, spent over a billion, got the best managers we could get, signed the best players we could sign and not even once we come close to winning the EPL or UCL, one of a kind Fergie he was special.
Ole did not win the europa League against villareal because a certain Marcus Rashford couldn't score a sitter. Ole ball was lovely to watch like him or not
Getting a West Ham fan who has undying love for Moyes, a chelsea fan who has undying love for Mourinho, and Joe who has undying love for Ole as a United fan on this panel to talk about these three managers is hilariously stupid from sky
The take on Ole by both guests is completely bad. Just trophy based deductions. Doesn't look like they watched the matches. Van Gaal's time at United was way worse than Ole. Call Ten Hag rubbish but put him in second! What!?
What they did to Ole is not fair, Ten Hag played against Coventry in the semi-final, Ole played City twice, Sevilla and Chelsea. I think in modern football progression is greater than silverware because it brings better long-term benefits for the club.🙁
At the end of the day, a manager's tenure is decided based on trophies even though the style of play is horrible. 1. Jose Mourinho 2. Erik Ten Hag 3. Louis van Gaal 4. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 5. David Moyes Not inlcuding Ralf Rangnick on this and not including the Community Shield as a major trophy.
This Ole argument is absolutely ridiculous. He was given more time and more funds with better players and blew hot and cold in all the three years he was there. Jose achieved the highest points tally in a space of 2 seconds and four finals. Europa league League cup Fa cup Super cup All this with Jones and smalling at the back and a bunch of bunch of dancing TikTokers.
Ole is so underrated, I would have him back under our new structure 100%! Ronaldo came in (which was a board decision) and upset his style of play and the apple cart.
We have to remember what man u were before Fergy. For 20+ years they appointed and sacked managers without success aside from the occasional Fa cup, which is essentially what they've been since Ferguson retired. Ppl are shocked by their 'demise' but basically they've just reverted to type
Ole is easily top 2 in anyones list.... EASILY. Progression can only be seen in the league and he was brilliant in his second and third season. 2020/21 was our best season since SAF.
Personal response to the opinions expressed in this video. 1. David Moyes was a highly respected manager in 2013. For years he'd been seen as Fergie's natural successor. Came into the club, and had no support around him (much like all the other managers post-Fergie). 2. Ole finishing 2nd and 3rd isn't good, but somehow that's exactly what qualified Poch for the Man Utd job (according to the media)? Ole also has an equal best Champions League run post-Fergie. 3. Rangnick was never meant to be the manager. He was meant to be a club advisor. However, how could Rangnick's opinion ever outweigh that of Fergie (who was and still is part of the board)? Match made in hell. 4. LVG is actually the only manager who really managed to instil an identity in that team. Unfortunately, the football was horrendous and I think broke the record for 0-0 draws at HT at Old Trafford. 5. ETH has won two trophies, had to deal with massive issues and has done so admirably. Only manager to get a top 4 finish and trophy in the same season since Fergie. Consecutive seasons with trophies. However, he has shown no tactical intelligence for a while, which could be a result of injuries. 6. Jose'... I agree with Rory, if only we'd have appointed him first. I think he was the only manager who would have commanded the respect of the players post-Fergie.
United did have a lot of injuries last season and finished 8th, liverpool in 2020/21 had a similar amount of injuries lost 6 home games in a a row and finished 3rd the season ole finished 2nd thats how poor the quality of the league was that season
Why do we have non-United fans and United haters ranking this? And they're arguing against an actual United fan and saying he's wrong. We have a West Ham fan saying that Moyes did a better job than Ole and saying it's not because of West Ham bias. Moyes did a better job than Ole? Then he ranks EtH 2nd even though he calls him rubbish. Is he having a laugh? Give me a break.
Still the biggest club in the country/world. Sky is a company that wants to make money - and by targeting as many people as possible, you make as much money as possible.
Wow they have actually disrespected Ole - Not a manager to win the league but considering the structure, environment - Jose, ETH, Ole, LVG, Moyes for me.
“Lvg’s team would beat ole’s” we couldn’t score a goal under lvg it was so turgid, yes he’s been a great manager but at United it was so boring even if it got some good results
big facts. Everyone on Twitter is trying to gaslight a lot of us United fans into thinking Ole is the best manager we’ve had since Fergie. I was there. It was not a pleasant experience for a majority of his tenure
1. Ole 2. Mourinho 3. LVG 4. ETH 5. Ragnick Mourinho spent more money than Ole. That Europa League trophy flatters Mourinho's team. If Ole won that penalty shootout, he would be viewed very differently.
Ole lost the locker room when they brought in Ronaldo and it became all about Ronaldo first and the manager wasn't allowed to manage. If ownership had backed Ole and allowed him to play Ronaldo off the bench or sit him all together like he should have, they he never would have got sacked.
It's a bit hypocritical saying Ole should have beaten Villareal in 90 minutes but LVG couldn't beat crystal palace in 90 minutes and needed extra time and a bit of magic from Rooney and Lingard. The fine margins in football can't be ignored, football under LVG was horrendous and had fans sleeping while Ole got United fans excited and gave us back to back top 4 which none of the other managers have done.
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Ole Number 1
Ole gets so much disrespect… finished 3rd and 2nd…
I'd like to know how ole would of done under the ineos structure.
I think it would of worked better for him. Ineos would of listend to ole for when he recommended haaland for what 19 million? Shame the glazers completely ignored him😢
@@slashthe2nd4 million mate. Shocking
No Trophies he's shite
No trophies just a second place merchant, on top of that people scream about the second place finish but United were 12 points behind city, not like city were quivering they were running away with it it wasn’t even close and this is coming from a man united fan, ole is the worst manager on this list
City won the league with 86 points( which is low for pep standards) and Ole wasnt even within 10 points of them.
It’s quite awkward listening to Rory talk about people not being qualified enough, or having the experience and knowledge to step up to the job that they are being asked to do, while he himself is trying to carve out a career talking about football 😂😂😂😂
Yup
That's why he talks about it, he's not got the skills to be a manager. Everyone has opinions & can read.
He's a herbert.
Legend has it he uses a step stool to get into a chair
The difference between Rory and ten hag is… nothing. They both aren’t good enough to be a Man U manager😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ole made united feel like united again. It’s very similar to how arsenal fans feel with arteta. You can tell he’s building something. Ole literally finished 2nd in the Man City vs Liverpool dominant era.
Liverpool had less than 80 points during that season and him finishing 2nd under Man City is kinda misleading
yes, United under Ole was the closest in term of playstyle similar to SAF.
@@Deathmare235 still doesn’t change the fact it was one of liverpools dominant teams under klopp. Yes there were injuries. But still. Ole finished above klopp and on top of that. He had the same amount of losses with pep that year. He could’ve won the league if it wasn’t for all those draws
@@nadirahmed8300 that Liverpool team didn’t have a good season
No, we didn't. We rarely had the ball more than 40%
Complete disrespect to Ole.
First 2 and half seasons were very good. Exciting to watch, got United playing attacking football and had Rashford, Martial, Cavani, Bruno and Greenwood scoring plenty, had good records against big teams, Maguire was a solid leader at the back during those seasons.
His demise sadly was bringing Ronaldo back (as much as I love him). Lost pace and pressure up top and completely changed the tempo of attacking. The lack of press made it easy for teams to play out through us.
Think I recall us being 1st by new year in one of those seasons too.
I would have him as number 1 tbh.
Isn't the whole point of success at Man United, the supposedly big club in the world, to win trophies? You're being an apologist
@@onlyweatherlol93and some trophies are more important than others also think about the transfers, van gaal was responsible for losing both Di maria and kroos
He finished 2nd during a covid year and it was a distant 2nd. City only needed 86 points to win the league.
He finished 3rd the year before with only 66 points.
Ronaldo wasn't the problem, the issue was it raised expectations and he needed to challenge for the league. So he decided to stop playing mcfred. Bought Sancho as an RW and played him LW too.
He had one of the most talented squads post Fergie, but played sit back and counter and relied on individual brilliance.
I'm a bit on the fence with Ole. The signing of Ronaldo absolutely did him in, as we could no longer play the way we had up to that point under him. We beat Southampton 9-0 at one point, were briefly top of the table, and got better and better until that summer. All of a sudden a massive drop-off when we signed Ronaldo.
That all said, I'm not sure he would have been the man to take us much further than he did. We indeed played counter-attacking football most of the time, which is fine, but that's all Ole had up his sleeve. Nonetheless, since Fergie retired, the second season under Ole was the most I've enjoyed football in general. I just wish we could turn back the clock and sign someone else instead of Ronaldo.
@@liamg88Very fair comment. Agree with all of what you’ve said. Definitely the most entertaining to watch since Ferguson left.
Genuinely don't know where to begin with these lists.
I agree, Sam. We have two non-United fans arguing with an actual United fan and saying he's wrong. A West Ham fan saying that Moyes was a better United manager than Ole and saying it's not because of bias, while also saying that Joe only ranks Ole because of bias. The hypocrisy is off the charts here. Then he ranked ten Hag 2nd while calling him rubbish? I can't wait for us to finally "be back" so we can shut all these clowns up again.
@@kevinconway2965 that non United fan is the only one who has experience hiring footballing managers.
@@LW-xc9gm Who? And what has that got to do with United's previous managers and how they should be ranked. Saying Moyes was a better United manager than OGS is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
@@kevinconway2965 he didn’t say that. Spencer’s list was clearly within a certain context.
@@LW-xc9gmhe let Moyes off despite him having the easiest role, once he lost it the other managers had it hard
Ole is underrated. Usually played well against the big teams, had a great away record being unbeaten in 28 away league games, and finished 2nd in the league at one point. Not to mention was a penalty kick away from winning a European trophy.
And he won absolutely nothing. Margins are not excuses
Fans hated his 'style of play' or lack of lol
@onlyweatherlol93 but 1st priority is the league.
Here is the priority list..
1) Win League
2) Win UCL
3) Win UEL
4) UCl qualifications
5) Win conference league
6) Win FA Cup
7) Win League Cup
8) europa qualification
9) conference qualification
Is ole like arteta beautiful football many goals but no trophies
@@preetjitsingh328 so ten Hag, van Gaal and Mourinho above Ole then
1. Mou (best by a mile)
2. Ole (hes not as bad or as good as some make out)
3. Ten Hag (neck and neck with ole)
4. Ragnick - sure the record wasnt great but he publicly addressed the problems we all knew existed and i think our players were so toxic he couldnt get anything out of them.
5. Van Gall
I dont like hating Rory but honestly 😬😬. Just keep Niamh/Nieve as a permanent guest.
Rory Jennings is here that means we're guaranteed at least 1 horrible opinion
ten hag has done well
@@Pmrace1960 That just shows United's standards that Ten Hag is arguably their best manager since Fergy
Pretends to be a Chelsea fan but constantly bashes Liverpool while sucking off Man Utd.
@@footygoatz7552he's not, Mourinho is
@@MRLONG758 Read again,did i say Ten Hag was?
ole worse than van gaal n moyes thats crazy we at least finished 3rd n 2nd with him whilst moyes finished 7th and van gaal 4th n 5th during probs the worsy quality prem era ever
Compare the squads, Ole had better players, more time and more money spent than the other two. You can’t just discount Van Gaals FA cup win. As for Moyes, he definitely had a worse squad and a pretty much impossible job replacing Sir Alex, I think he could definitely sit lower than Ole but even so, if somebody placed him higher than Ole there would be a case for them to make.
The Ole disrepect is absolutely wild. Got the team playing the best football, finished second, would’ve won trophies if De Gea wasn’t a hologram and broke the PL away game record. Insane, he’s in last positions!
No the football was horrid a lot of the time, stealing wins in counter attack
@@eddysfootballwaffle5975 Mourinho and LVG football was boring, ETH’s style is too open and Rangnick was woeful. Ole’s team’s scored a lot of goals and got results. What’s wrong with sitting back and countering against the bigger teams, especially when we won! That’s literally United DNA.
@@eddysfootballwaffle5975so you’re basically saying counter attacking isn’t real football
Ole was tactically inept
@@khoapham6157 Yeah he was a PE teacher who beat Pep four times 🤣🤣🤣
The solskjaer positions are actually a joke, like these guys should be banned from talking about football it’s so ridiculous
Yeah, he should be 5th on both lists
1. Mourinho
2. Ten Haag
3. Solskjaer
4. Van Gaal
5. Moyes
Gonna quickly explain my reasoning. Moyes finishes last because he took over from a title winning team, got rid of the experienced coaching staff, brought in his own lot from Everton and then signed Fellaini. Was a disaster.
I like Van Gaal and generally I think his time here was underrated. However, he got rid of a lot of players who should never have left. Chicharito being one of them. You can never take away from him the fact he managed to win a Cup though and kept United ticking over in that respect.
Solskjaer comes 3rd and not lower, because people generally forget how well he did until his final season. No trophy, but gave United some self respect again, brought back some old coaching staff from the Ferguson era, and oversaw the Return of Ronaldo.
Ten Haag is a worthy second despite all the pressure he is under, for the simple fact that he's won 2 cups in 2 seasons. The first season especially was exciting and lifted the morale of the whole club. The second season was hampered by several injuries to key players, yet despite this managed to still secure a cup by the end of the season.
Mourinho comes in first for a few reasons. I still remember how much flack he took by some fans and by the media (a lot of these fans being shamefully influenced by the media by the way), but he achieved the highest points tally post Sir Alex Ferguson by some margin (81 points) - as well as adding the Europa League and League Cup to the trophy cabinet, and for a club like Manchester United the ability to keep that trophy cabinet ticking over is huge. His style of play wasn't hugely popular but it brought results, like it or not
"History would be kind to Jose Mourinho."
Poetic.
The discussion is about 2 to 5. Mourinho was the best since Sir Alex and still is.
I'd probably swap Moyes and Ole in Spencer's list but jesus these options are tragic. It's amazing they've won any trophies since fergie retired.
Mark literally did this yesterday. P.S Rory is a goober
Joe was on pitchside the other day doing this
I’m on Joe’s side here. It’s extraordinary the way the other two non Man Utd fans teamed up. Ole, although it fizzled out completely and got toxic, was really really good in that first season, it’s quite painful listening to Rory who is totally unqualified in knowledge telling the Man U fan thst he’s being biased.
Rory is consistently inconsistent, at one point he will point at purely based on the results for the club, and not shortly after he'll point at historical records with previous clubs. Having him on can always cause some controversy, but it's rarely based on as factual opinions as I believe he thinks he has
This list from Rory and James is ludicrous, in terms of actual enjoyment and performance in the league, Ole should be first. 2nd and 3rd in the league, 6-2, 9-0, 5-1 and several other high scoring victories. Had Pep’s number. Would have won Europa if DDG could save a PDF file.
I wasn’t on the show!
For me, van Gaal was more entertaining than his football was tbh. Would have put Ole 3rd and LVG 4th.
1. Jose
2. Ole
3. Erik
4. Louis
5. Ralf
Ole got us playing exciting football and created some of the most exciting viewing experiences as a fan, I’d definitely put him over LVG and Moyes
Sky sports fell off hard... Having a West Ham fan and a Chelsea fan ranking Man Utd managers is just ridiculous in itself.. The disrespect on Solskjaer just shows that neither of them actually watched any United games during the years. This was a hard watch...
I might switch 3 and 4 of Rory's list but otherwise I think it's fine and tbf at least LVG won something.
Solskjaer wasn’t good he was average no trophies … being second and then nothing to show just like arsenal last two seasons 2nd place and no trophies to show
Ole was crap
Moyes - Never managed a top club. Never won a top trophy.
Van Gaal - Was building, but sacked after winning Cup in 2nd season.
Jose - Played boring football because it was the only way to get results.
Ole - Never managed a big club.
Ralf - Sacked after saying the club needed open heart surgery. Never did much.
ETH - Has a good couple seasons at Ajax. That's about it.
Manchester United set a very low bar when it comes to appointing managers, or had a thin skin when it came to managers criticising the club.
Laughable how Spencer is going in on Ole "what did he win? what did he achieve?" while he puts Moyes above him who did nothing and got sacked 10 months into the job. Ole's squad obviously had more money spent on it, but Moyes LITERALLY inherited a title winning squad. Just like he mentions how Slot can just pick up where Klopp left off, the same argument can be made for Moyes too, but he changed so much when he came in and look how that went. He only had himself to blame for his downfall tbh
United are genuinely the only team that could have a section all to their own like this.
We are absolutely massive.
Why invite Rory on? His Haaland call was shocking and completely discredited him as a football commenter.
All commentators have got a prediction wrong at some point
@@lewisepicfootycontent5934but every Rory opinion is wrong
@@lewisepicfootycontent5934but the Haaland call was so misguided and based on being the guy with the contrarian view just for the sake of it, that you should just disregard his opinion regardless
Because this is an entertainment show, who actually gives af who's on at this point?
I don't think he ever had any credit to begin with. So he can't have been discredited.
1.Mourinho
2. Ole Solskjaer
3. Ten Haag
4. Van Gaal
5. Moyes
The united stand literally just done this yesterday😂
Aw I’d say it was brilliant in a basement with a green screen!
@@Sean-wu8qf its a studio
I'm sure I had a glimpse of this exact topic on PitchSide yesterday (Joe was a guest on that pod too)
joe aint exactly known for his original ideas
@@dylanf5287and joes channel 😂
Mourinho
Ten Hag
Ole
Van gaal
Rangnick
Moyes
As of now I don't see how anyone can argue with that list. At least if you're a rival fan anyway, we all know some rival fan will try to make it out like moyes was underrated and was the best manager
1. Mourinho
2. ten Hag
3. Solskjær
4. van Gaal
5. Ragnick
6. Moyes
1. Ten Hag
2. Ole Gunnar
3. Mourinho
4. Van Gaal
5. Ralf Ragnick
I can explain my reason:
Ralf was appointed for 6 months or so and did what he was appointed for. Pointing out the loopholes of the club and the squad. He offered solutions but we all know they were needed to carry out by a more experienced coach.
Van Gaal stabilized the club but United is not a 43 goals a season type of club. Failed with many important signings. The squad at his time still had players who could win titles but he could not get the best out of them. Yes, he could have been given more time after the FA cup win but he did not have it because his style of football did not reflect the club.
Mourinho is probably more dearly rated now than when he was our coach. He gave us 2 trophies, EFL cup and Europa League. But again, losing the dressing room and throwing players under the bus is typical of him when he starts losing. His defensive style of football again did not reflect the club philosophy (which is why I think his recruitment was a mistake in the first place. The owners did not know what type of football they expected out of the club). His boring display over a 3-1 loss to Liverpool at the back of many lacklustre losses cost him his job
Ole brought the identity of the team back. It was the first time and probably the only time the team played to its philosophy of direct attacking football. His away record is tremendous, finished in Champions League spots in both the seasons, 2nd and 3rd. Managed the club through a broken structure and never got the transfers he wanted, spending 2 years to bring in Sancho, never got a DM, wanted Haaland but did not get him. Was one penalty away from a trophy. The team did not look beatable on any day by any of the top 6 teams.
Ten Hag has taken the long route of rebuilding the team. He also has a decent share of misjudgment like bringing in Antony but the money is the failure of transfer negotiation, not him. He got us couple of trophies, the only other manager to do so after Mourinho. The difference being the style of football is yet not as boring as it was under Mourinho. The team is transitioning with a lot changing at the background. The manager can be given 1 more year (this season) to prove his metal and to declare if he indeed is the best manager post Fergie. He is just in the top spot because he has just met the stature of the other managers and have the potential to go one step further. But can he take that step, only time will tell.
1. Jose Mourinho. The best manager we had in terms of success. 2 trophies in his first year and finished 2nd the following year and a FA Cup final to boot. Unfortunately his 3rd season meltdown was around the corner and it was no exceptions.
2. Ole Gunnar Solksjaer. Could have easily been #1 had he won the Europa League final. Silverware had eluded him after multiple semi finals and a final. Back to back top 3 finishes and we were scoring goals for fun and had moments. His limitations as a manager was well documented and it showed near the end of the season we've finished 2nd place. His downfall came after losing to Villarreal in the Europa League final and signing Ronaldo sped up his demise and his fate was sealed after losing to Watford.
3. Erik Ten Hag aka Dr Robotnik. The only reason he's above LVG and Moyes is because of winning the FA Cup and League Cup. Other than that, he played a role in our worst ever season with an 8th place finish with a negative goal difference. Still not good enough to be above Ole and Mourinho.
4. Louis Van Gaal. A FA Cup win is what kept him above Moyes. LVG sold most of our attacking players like Kagawa, Hernandez, Van Persie, Zaha, Nani, Di Maria and completely stripped the squad to bring in dross players like Memphis, Schneiderlin, Rojo, a passed it Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Falcao and his football was so boring that you have more joy watching paint dry. He's the only manager to have a proper structure but his broken football philosophy was so predictable he refused to tweek it and his fate was sealed after failing to finish in the top 4.
5. David Moyes. Easily our worst manager by far and was out of his depth. Should have never been hired in the first place. Moyes was decent for Everton and West Ham but Manchester United was a step too far.
Ten Hag gave United their worst ever defeat to their biggest rivals and he gave them their worst ever PL finish btw 💀
Are you forgetting the 7-0 to Liverpool. Ole delivered the worst results by far
@@fayyaz1894 7-0 was under ETH, wdym?
Yes but ole lost 4-0, 5-0 to Liverpool and ten hag won trophies, ole didn’t
@@CarterGoodall-w2x ole had the best record against the bigger teams tho to
He also has given us the sweetest wins against those same rivals!
Disrespect to ole is crazy a lot of people make some great points in favour of solskjaer but i dont see anyone talk about his record against big clubs regularly got good results against pep
Any ranking not having Ole or maybe Jose as No 1 is absolutely crazy. Like ridiculously crazy
The LVG over Ole is absolutely wild.
Ten Haag has set about 40 Man U records, including lowest ever PL league position (8th), lowest ever PL goal difference (-1), first time ever with a minus GD, Most defeats before Xmas since 1930 (13), most defeats in a PL league season (14), Finished bottom of the Champions League with Copenhagen in it, Lowest Champions League points tally ever, First team to allow Galatasaray to win on English soil in 117 years, Manchester United hadn't gone 4 games in a row without scoring in the PL until Ten Haag, He set another new record last week being the first ever Man U manager to lose by 3 goals in 3 PL gams in the last 12 months. Long may his success continue
I'm sorry but didn't the United Stand do the exact same video yesterday?
Yeah and others as well
nobody cares
Is it fkn illegal for the infinite channels to make similar content? Stfu
Also u have no idea when these are filmed
Why are you sorry. Having to read your opinions is horrible.
Who cares? Not everyone watches ClickbaitBridge.
1. Mourinho
2. Ole
3. Ten Hag
4. LVG
5. Moyes
6. Ralf
There’s not a United fan out there who thinks Ole wasn’t the best since SAF
Sir Alex Ferguson left, spent over a billion, got the best managers we could get, signed the best players we could sign and not even once we come close to winning the EPL or UCL, one of a kind Fergie he was special.
Ten Hag is going to be remembered for his 7-0 and 3-0.
As if Ole didn't lose 5-0 at home to Liverpool and like 4-1 at Watford. At least Ten Hag won silverware.
Ole is vastly underappreciated. How is Ole below Moyes. Wish Ole had a decent PR
Ole did not win the europa League against villareal because a certain Marcus Rashford couldn't score a sitter. Ole ball was lovely to watch like him or not
1. Mourinho
2. LVG
3. Ole
4. ETH
5. Moyes
1. Jose Mourihno
2. Erik Ten Hag
3. Ole Gunnar Solksjaer
4. Louis Van Gaal
5. David Moyes
Ten Hag is 5…the worst!!!
1 - Ten Hag
2 - Ole
3 - Mourinho
4 - Van Gaal
5 - Rangnick
5 - Moyes
As a United fan:
Ole
Mou
Ten Hag
Van Gaal
Moyes
Ragnick
watching Ole’s football was the happiest i have been watching United since SAF
1. Ten hag ( Schocking transfers Malacia Mount Antony )
2. Mourinho ( toxic as always)
3. Ole ( No tactics just vibes )
1:47 Ralph won A German Cup and UCL Semi finalist with Shalke 04 plus a host of promotions with other clubs
1. Ole
2. Jose
3. Ten Hag
4. LVG
5. Moyes
6. Rangnick
1. Ole
2. Morihno
3. Ten Hag
1.ole 2.mourinho 3. Van gaal 4.moyes 5. Ten hag
Getting a West Ham fan who has undying love for Moyes, a chelsea fan who has undying love for Mourinho, and Joe who has undying love for Ole as a United fan on this panel to talk about these three managers is hilariously stupid from sky
1st: Jose
2nd: Ole
3rd: Ten Hag
4th: van gaal
5th: moyes
6th: rangnick
1. Ole
2. Jose
3. ETH***
4.LVG
5. David
SIR ALEX FERGUSON & JOSE MOURINHO & OLE GUNNAR SOLSKJAER & ERIK TEN HAG & DAVID MOYES
Easy
1. Mourinho
2. Ten Hag
3. Louis Van Gaal
4. Ole
5. David Moyes
Ole's a league manager, Ten Hag is a cup manager.
The take on Ole by both guests is completely bad. Just trophy based deductions. Doesn't look like they watched the matches. Van Gaal's time at United was way worse than Ole. Call Ten Hag rubbish but put him in second! What!?
What they did to Ole is not fair, Ten Hag played against Coventry in the semi-final, Ole played City twice, Sevilla and Chelsea. I think in modern football progression is greater than silverware because it brings better long-term benefits for the club.🙁
I go with silverware every time with zero hesitance. The war cry says, "We're number 1, not 2, not 3, not 4," not We're #1 and 2 and 3 and 4. 😂🤣😂🤣
At the end of the day, a manager's tenure is decided based on trophies even though the style of play is horrible.
1. Jose Mourinho
2. Erik Ten Hag
3. Louis van Gaal
4. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
5. David Moyes
Not inlcuding Ralf Rangnick on this and not including the Community Shield as a major trophy.
This Ole argument is absolutely ridiculous. He was given more time and more funds with better players and blew hot and cold in all the three years he was there.
Jose achieved the highest points tally in a space of 2 seconds and four finals.
Europa league
League cup
Fa cup
Super cup
All this with Jones and smalling at the back and a bunch of bunch of dancing TikTokers.
100% want to see the top 20 owners list
From a utd fan;
5. Moyes
4. Van gaal
3. Ole
2. Ten hag
1. Mourinho
Ole is so underrated, I would have him back under our new structure 100%! Ronaldo came in (which was a board decision) and upset his style of play and the apple cart.
We have to remember what man u were before Fergy. For 20+ years they appointed and sacked managers without success aside from the occasional Fa cup, which is essentially what they've been since Ferguson retired. Ppl are shocked by their 'demise' but basically they've just reverted to type
I’m especially enjoyed how they got no United fan to weigh in on this
1. Mourinho
2. Ten Hag
3. Ole
4. Lvg
5. Neither
Ole is easily top 2 in anyones list.... EASILY. Progression can only be seen in the league and he was brilliant in his second and third season. 2020/21 was our best season since SAF.
He is clearly 3rd and maybe even 4th.
All United fans know that Solskjaer should be at the top of that list , not Chelsea fans.
Mourinho and Ten Hag were both better.
Mourinho
I've not started watching yet, but this should be a good laugh 😂 I'm a liverpool fan
I do love ole tho ❤
Show them what Rangnick did in Austria. Now Austria is very strong top 10 Europe teams
Personal response to the opinions expressed in this video.
1. David Moyes was a highly respected manager in 2013. For years he'd been seen as Fergie's natural successor. Came into the club, and had no support around him (much like all the other managers post-Fergie).
2. Ole finishing 2nd and 3rd isn't good, but somehow that's exactly what qualified Poch for the Man Utd job (according to the media)? Ole also has an equal best Champions League run post-Fergie.
3. Rangnick was never meant to be the manager. He was meant to be a club advisor. However, how could Rangnick's opinion ever outweigh that of Fergie (who was and still is part of the board)? Match made in hell.
4. LVG is actually the only manager who really managed to instil an identity in that team. Unfortunately, the football was horrendous and I think broke the record for 0-0 draws at HT at Old Trafford.
5. ETH has won two trophies, had to deal with massive issues and has done so admirably. Only manager to get a top 4 finish and trophy in the same season since Fergie. Consecutive seasons with trophies. However, he has shown no tactical intelligence for a while, which could be a result of injuries.
6. Jose'... I agree with Rory, if only we'd have appointed him first. I think he was the only manager who would have commanded the respect of the players post-Fergie.
United did have a lot of injuries last season and finished 8th, liverpool in 2020/21 had a similar amount of injuries lost 6 home games in a a row and finished 3rd the season ole finished 2nd thats how poor the quality of the league was that season
The music is fire, great choice!
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Why do we have non-United fans and United haters ranking this? And they're arguing against an actual United fan and saying he's wrong. We have a West Ham fan saying that Moyes did a better job than Ole and saying it's not because of West Ham bias. Moyes did a better job than Ole? Then he ranks EtH 2nd even though he calls him rubbish. Is he having a laugh? Give me a break.
I think Ole should of been offered a job as an assistant manager or coach, we did play some decent football under him.
Best part of the whole show for me was “I actually think Ten hag is RUBBISH” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Too valid!
Easy Jose -> ten Hag -> Ole -> Van Gaal -> Moyes .. everything else is wrong, sorry
“What has he won?” But you put Rangnick 5? Make it make sense…
Im getting bored of all this Man U coverage they not even a top 6 team anymore.
Still the biggest club in the country/world.
Sky is a company that wants to make money - and by targeting as many people as possible, you make as much money as possible.
@@brapbrapskattappgangang5945 the city isn't even there's anymore 🤷🏽♂️
@@brapbrapskattappgangang5945based on what?
@@brapbrapskattappgangang5945Liverpool is bigger in England and Madrid is biggest club in world
This is the first time I could not bear to complete an episode and I refuse to watch the other one.
West ham fan talking about trophies... this is crazy!
I like Moyes I'd have him as 1 based on the season in the CL.
Why on Earth would you have a Chelsea and a West Ham fan on for this?
Ole 1
Jose 2
Ten hag 3
Van gaal 4
Moyes 5
Mourinho
Ole
LVG
ETH
Rangnick
Wow they have actually disrespected Ole - Not a manager to win the league but considering the structure, environment -
Jose, ETH, Ole, LVG, Moyes for me.
14:06 I first noticed Rory’s knees now I can’t stop looking at them
“Lvg’s team would beat ole’s” we couldn’t score a goal under lvg it was so turgid, yes he’s been a great manager but at United it was so boring even if it got some good results
1.Jose Mourinho
2. Erik ten hag
3. Ole Gunner Solskjoer
4. Louis van Gaal
5. Ralf Rangnick
big facts. Everyone on Twitter is trying to gaslight a lot of us United fans into thinking Ole is the best manager we’ve had since Fergie. I was there. It was not a pleasant experience for a majority of his tenure
They have all been brilliant x
Rangnick, honestly. Liked his ethos the most, most articulate, most talkative.
1. Ole
2. Mourinho
3. LVG
4. ETH
5. Ragnick
Mourinho spent more money than Ole. That Europa League trophy flatters Mourinho's team. If Ole won that penalty shootout, he would be viewed very differently.
Ole lost the locker room when they brought in Ronaldo and it became all about Ronaldo first and the manager wasn't allowed to manage. If ownership had backed Ole and allowed him to play Ronaldo off the bench or sit him all together like he should have, they he never would have got sacked.
They shouldn’t have get rid of Mourinho !!
It's a bit hypocritical saying Ole should have beaten Villareal in 90 minutes but LVG couldn't beat crystal palace in 90 minutes and needed extra time and a bit of magic from Rooney and Lingard. The fine margins in football can't be ignored, football under LVG was horrendous and had fans sleeping while Ole got United fans excited and gave us back to back top 4 which none of the other managers have done.