I've had 5 M3's, and this is my favorite. The throttle response, linear power and sound are WAY better than the M4, but you're right about the crappy fuel mileage. It's hysterical that the fuel light comes on at 1/4 tank!
Interesting for you today. Not driven the M4 yet but it’s in my list! 1/4 tank warning is after I coded it to warn me later, used to come on even earlier!
the voice recognition is funny as hell. I totally get it. Another 2 items fail will be idle control valve and fuel breather valve. They don’t fail as frequent but they are known issues.
I just purchased a 14 year-old E46 M3 with 144K miles on it. It took about $8K to get it back to its original glory. That's when I realized that almost anyone can afford to buy one of these now, but not everyone can afford to drive and maintain it.
Big thanks Nick. So nice of you to say. I’m not as popular as you yet but maybe one day. The Clio videos didn’t really find an audience but this M3 one appears to be doing better.
AYE OK SURE - 😂😂😂😂😂 clearly know absolutely nothing about cars..not to mind m cars. You are an absolute simpleton. Iv been in all 4 M3s, and owned 3. The E92 is and always will be the daddy.
I took my 12-year-old 1993 E36 M3 up to over 200,000 miles and it never missed a beat - no matter what I threw at it. The original clutch lasted 130,000 miles before it gave up, but that was the only thing that ever went on it - the engine was totally untouched in all that time . Like yourself, I carried out regular oil changes (every 5000 Miles) and that really does make a difference to longevity.
I have a 2008 E90 M3 with 83K miles on it and the biggest, expensive failures I've paid for or done myself in the last 7 years: 1) Replace throttle valve actuators, ~$1000 each at budget shop, ~$2000 each at dealer; 2) Replace leaking valve cover gaskets (my DIY cost ~$350; dealer cost ~$1100) 3) Replace leaking oil filter housing gasket ~$600 at budget shop). Tire and fuel costs about the same you mentioned... but in the US, I'm only getting 14 city mpg and 20 highway mpg, usually combined around 15 mpg so it does guzzle gas. Upgrades I recommend and have done: $150 for AFE high flow intake; $1700 for Borla exhaust - sounds amazing and combined estimated 50 hp increase... highly recommend this car if you can stomach the expensive failures, which once fixed, won't happen again for another ~70K miles. Oil changes, even DIY, are expensive as the oil is ~$12 per liter and it takes ~9 liters and filter is ~$20
@@enyce184 It's a myth. Dealer mechanics confirm there is no reason to wet the bed. Beamer Fam channel has one with 133K miles on original bearings, before replacement and he ripped it hard. Not outrageous for a car with that performance.
It's 12k average yearly miles in the States. Being driven conservatively gentle. M3 fan use to dream about owning a canary yellow previous generation. 😎
Came to your channel because of the Clio videos and now have already watched every single one of you. I really enjoy this channel, it is great information and for my sense of humor really funny. Keep going and greetings from Bavaria, Germany
Road and Race In general the Clio is not the most popular car in Germany because the usual ones are just simple, small cars and Renault is still for many a synonym for "zero reliability". But the Renault Clio and Megane RS versions of pretty much every generation are very popular as cars for everyday use AND going on a track. Especially the nordschleife is a place you can find many of them. I am driving Renault basically all my life and actually a Clio mk 4. I never had any real issues with my Renaults, so I can't understand people talking so much about "bad French cars" without having ever owned one. I think it's somehow the same as with "an M3 costs you a fortune to own" or "driving Porsche is only possible if you are earning money like a doctor". Everybody heard something, but almost nobody really knows it really. I think such content about fun but affordable cars (compared to what they did cost new) and how to improve them is a really great topic and not too much on TH-cam yet.
Interesting to hear what one man seems to suggest as expensive running costs like TAX, Tyres and fuel but remember a £60k car will still have £60k running costs 10 years on regardless of what you paid for it. Personally I thought the running costs ridiculously cheap for what it is.
I had 3 M3s and I loved the E36. The e90 was the best at everything when it was working only... now I have an E36 m3 again and I'm in love plus is not the most reliable like my maserati coupe manual.
Great video, the E92’s are very underrated, one of if not the best M3’s to date. I myself owned a gremlin filled E46. And yes the maintenance will kill ya. But, I was looking at picking up an E92, it’s like TH-cam read my mind. Thanks for the information.
Really enjoy your videos,always look forward to them. These cars are fantastic last of the real drivers cars.n/a motor that sings you just cannot beat it! Look forward to the next video 👍🏻
It’s just something that’s not going to be replicated sadly.its an end of an era for cars,it’s the last car with an identity imo.everything is a 3.0-4.0 turbo now so nothing feels different...all cars are becoming the same!
I have a F32 430d it comes with Potenza run flats fitted which are expensive , did a lot of research online and the reviews on the new Falkens came out well,so I went for them. My local tyre shop quoted me cheaper than My Tyres and Black Circle , I am very pleased saved 30% over the Potenza,s . I have done 6000 miles on them grip, ride and wear seem just as good.
Ive out in about 4k miles in my E90 M3 and I love it it's surprisingly practice biggest complaint would obviously be the gas I fill up around 3 times a week (roughly $150 a week on gas) only repairs I've had to make is a new alternator and rod bearings which was upon buying the car but other than that it's been a very reliable daily and holds its own with carrying groceries
I just bought a 2016 328i for that price After seeing this video, I wish I could come back in time haha M3 is such a legend The design looks awesome even for today’s standards
Hey great video, glad you're enjoying the car. I think I may have bought my 2011 M3 just after you got yours. I bought mine with an extended warranty for an extra $5k. Got her in June of 2017. Since then I've done my own oil change, I changed the spark plugs, cabin air filters, and wiper blades. I also put on a set if Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4s for the winter. I bought a set of cheap wheels for them so I can change them out myself, when I feel like it. I've flushed and filled the coolant, I'm using Brembo pads which cost less than the BMW pads. I changed the sensor wires at the same time too. Unfortunately I have had some issues. There was a recall on the battery cable that supplies power to all electronics on the car, my car was affected. In fact, I found out about the recall after I experienced the problem. Luckily, my extended warranty covers roadside assistance and BMW Canada paid for the recall service. This was a major failure, nothing on the car worked, you couldn't even start it. The DSC module on the car failed, again... luckily my extended warranty covered the cost of the part and labour which was over $5k, so that extended warranty has paid for itself in less than a year. Other than that she has been great. I bought her with 87,000 KM and I've put on 9,000 km. Sounds like music and goes like a beast! Track days are fun, daily drives are a little frustrating, as she wants to rev but I rarely have space to let her sing in traffic. Thanks for the vid.
One year with my 2011 E92 ZCP has ruined me with performance, sound and luxury. One shop oil change at $199(usd), at home oil change $129 (usd from FCP Euro), four new tires, $700 and a replacement headlight, moisture $500, off eBay, replaced battery and alternator at home $400 from Autozone and battery reset $75 at local shop. don’t count fuel consumption, as that’s under our own control. Planning rod bearing and respected local shop does it for $2499. Under $5000 in a year, seems pricey for the average driver, but M3 owners aren’t your average driver. I tried the auto off at stop feature and find it confusing. Turns off to save fuel but we know start up takes more fuel than driving.
I know this is an old video, but recent viewers should know that using oil analysis to track rod bearing wear is not reliable (unless you do it from the beginning of new bearings). Their have been engine failures (from rod bearings) shortly after oil analysis had been done showing all clear! For some evidence showing that, check out my thread called "S65 Oil reports collation - does oil analysis work for tracking bearing wear?" at the M3 post or M3 cutters forum.
Make sure you do the conrod bearings before 70,000 mate. They really need to be done. My friend owns a BMW specialist workshop and he takes badly burnt bearings out of motors that seemingly run perfectly.
Before committing to the Michilens, give Continental Extreme Contacts a try. I run those on my car, and it's nearly as good as the PS but cost must less.
The 08 and the 09 models have the copper rod bearings, whereas the 10-13 models have aluminum. So there’s no way to really test the oil if your model is 10 and up. I would do the bearings regardless just piece of mind. Cheers
Off the back of this video, I just totalled up the cost of my E46 M3 on maintenance and repairs in 2017 alone. Total: £2,798.98 - not including some of the work I’ve done myself. Christ almighty, should be getting something newer 😭
Yes, owning a 2013 M3 E92 w/competition package, DCT, CF roof, all options except heated seats, has ruined me in the under $100K car range. The M3 w/V-8 has been a very dependable and very reliable daily driver. Yes parts are expensive and dealerships overcharge for every service with tires at TWICE the normal price which bothers me the most! Plus even the dealership usually has to order a tire most always not in stock, so new tire means a DROP OFF & WAIT 2 DAYS.........but my dealership provides LOANER cars FOR FREE! That loaner program will figure in heavily as to if I buy my next car via their sales team. Loaners bring back buyers! The M3 E92 V8 is a car that will always put a smile on your face, every time you start it up! BUY ONE NOW, DO NOT WAIT for prices to go UP. It’s so much fun to drive even going to get groceries can be fun if you take that long, twisty road to the store..............(stock everything & still fun) but wait till I supercharge at 7 years of ownership.
Four months into my ownership of a 2011 E92 ZCP(comp package). Fillups average $35usd, Nitto tires are $540 a set but will last four years. First oil service $100 at a BMW shop(not dealer), nothing more. My water bill has gone up as I wash it all the time. All this is moot as the fun of driving is overwhelming.
I bought my competition pack car back in October, so not had any decent temps to enjoy it, just put the dct in auto the thing drives itself virtually, I am very careful to warm it up properly though so as not to put too much strain on the rod bearings from cold. Only 1570 competition pack cars made and mine is in interlagos blue only 313 rhd cars made in that colour and a fraction of those in comp pack form.
Munzir Rafik they don't break they wear out. With lack of lubrication because 10w60 oil is quite thick when cold so lubrication happens properly when the engine is fully warmed up and the viscosity of the oil thins out thus giving much better lubrication so reducing wear on the bearings. Hope that helps.
Lol leaf grills, I wish on the e46 m3 that was all I had to worry about. I did 35k miles in 2 years in mine and that got fairly expensive... boot floor crack repair/reinforcement, shims, new alternator, servicing, tyres, brakes, tax... cost around £6k not including fuel (avg 20mpg) and mods... then on top there’s that imminent smg pump failure paranoia lol... If that goes it’s another £2-4K to get it replaced. Luckily though it never missed a beat... but the e92 seems like a relative steal compared.
330i e92 2008 here. First.6 months: - wipers, side mirrors, all coils, all spark plugs, all injectors, nox sensor, all tyres, front wheel bearings, and I still have to sort out leak. We re looking on or around 3.5K now. Bought for 6k. Yeah bargain. Now Im during claim case against dealer which stated condition is "mint". Imagine this guy is a race driver and maybe not really famous but active. Damn
Oil analysis doesn't mean shit, if you get a used one, replaced the bearings. Unless the person before you has been doing the oil testing every oil change you are not gonna be able to detect the bearings going out. Not having previous data to compare your data with is a big issue. This is really bad advice, the first thing you should do when getting an e92 m3 is the bearings so you don't need to rebuild the engine.
Funny how to me an 11 year old car seams new😂 my mx5 is 23 years old, with 50k on the clock so is still in great shape, with next to no body/ chassis rust👍🏻
Thats because mx5 electro mechanical parts shit all over german parts. For instance compare a mx5 window regulator to a bmw one. Look at the quality difference.
Dude I got the famous throttle actuator failure on my 2011 M3 E92. At the dealership they quote 5830€/5200£ for the labour which is totally crazy! I've replaced them by myself with a DIY guide on TH-cam and that costed me 600€/550£ total with a rebuild of my own actuators! That is a serious cost if you cannot do the job by yourself tough.
Always appreciate the thoughtful and detailed approach you take to your videos. Just posted my first video yesterday (quick runs at a local auto-x event) inspired by your channel to get out there and share in the trials and tribulations of a love affair with cars! Keep up the great work. I hope to create content you'd follow in the coming weeks and months. D
Mines at 110k, no rod bearings replaced yet, Molly oil every 10k, no tick or problems yet... trying to save up for rod bearing replacement but so far so good.
Nankangs are actually really quite good (in the dry) and fun in the wet, ive had plenty of 400bhp+ cars and always swapped out what ever rubber is on them for nankangs, i cant imagine how you are getting 2 years out of rear tyres, i dont think ive ever had a set of rears last a year, no matter which rubber 😂
Great review of a car I hopefully own in the future. One thing on the road tax. I would love if the road tax for the e92 M3 was the equivalent of £535 a year here in Ireland where its actually €2350 per annum!! What a load of nonsense!
Have you thought about doing the 2 pipe mod? Paul the Welder is the benchmark, and the best 200 pounds you can spend on an E92 M3 to make it sound like it should.
Yo man, this is such a good review of this car seeing as I hope and pray to own one of these one day! You have a lovely colour there and as a I said, a fantastic car
Thanks for the review especially concerning cost of ownership. I'm shopping for one right now. Great looking car except, I guess you know, they put your steering wheel on the wrong side :)
We have the steering wheel on the right side it’s the rest of the world that’s wrong. Hope you find a good one. My sons got one they are one hell of a car.
I’m really considering upgrading my e46 325ci to an m3 and this video has helped big time. It’s really eye opening to how much the running cost of this incredible machine. But like you said you get what you pay for. Thanks bud.
Great video as always Neil. I'd like to see you sell it purely for selfish reasons as it's great to get your in-depth insight on cars you've owned. Tough car to replace tho.
Thanks mate, so nice if you to say! Yeah will be a tough one to replace! Tesla have offered me a press loan of their Model S in a few week so I’ll get to review that soon.
Hello from Ireland. I pay around £600 a year tax on an e46 320d. Your M3 would have an annual road tax of £2061 here. That's not a typo! Hope that makes you feel slightly better. Great channel BTW 👍
Hi.....I have searched the internet and am unable to find a 2008-2012 service manual. I know they are out there. Do you know where I could get one? If so please provide a link. There are many people with M3's looking for a manaul and torque specs. Thanks!
I've had 5 M3's, and this is my favorite. The throttle response, linear power and sound are WAY better than the M4, but you're right about the crappy fuel mileage. It's hysterical that the fuel light comes on at 1/4 tank!
Interesting for you today. Not driven the M4 yet but it’s in my list! 1/4 tank warning is after I coded it to warn me later, used to come on even earlier!
In the E60 M5 the fuel light comes in at 1/4 tank as that is deemed as the reserve.. madness!
Great video 👍🏼
Nicolas Pyke
What you expect an E60 M5 get 6/7 mpg and it’s only a 20 gal tank I owned one for 5 yrs, my new M5 gets 14 mpg with 140 more hp
1/4 tank considered reserve!!! That’s his nuts !
@@RoadandRacetv A road tax?? 😮
Owned an 08 for 4 years. Loved it, didn't spend a penny on repairs, just oil changes. I will be getting one again for sure.
Thanks for assisting the rest of us newer owners or 'might be owners'. Hope to see updates. (2011 E92 with 48k miles, I'm 2nd owner since early 2018)
the voice recognition is funny as hell. I totally get it.
Another 2 items fail will be idle control valve and fuel breather valve. They don’t fail as frequent but they are known issues.
Just like you! I own an E93 M3 and I look back at her everytime after I've parked her. ..plus her sound, this car is pure magic!
I just purchased a 14 year-old E46 M3 with 144K miles on it. It took about $8K to get it back to its original glory. That's when I realized that almost anyone can afford to buy one of these now, but not everyone can afford to drive and maintain it.
I loled hard at the fuel light sound and icon... I feel you on that...
The E92 M3 is a legend. I would personally take it over any new car even with that heavy fuel consumption.
Lol that's great for a V8. It's not like the turbo 6 cylinders do that much better.
Legend? Lol. You bmw people and your status. Its just a car.
@@FalloutEpic it is a legend... Why? Because it's race car version won the nurburgring 24h
@@FalloutEpic “just a car” says the civic owner 🤣
@@yusufbey1587 Salty? And no, I dont drive a civic.
6000 miles in a year? I’ve done that in 3 months, I think I have a problem
27k a year get at me
Brian Carroll you could never lease a car. And neither could I
HOONDA RR 3 months? Geez I do that in like 3 weeks lol
I've only done 2000 miles in the 2 years I've had my e92 m3. Think I'm the one with the problem lol.
HOONDA RR My dad drives around Scotland for work, he’s done 90,000 in 13 moths 😳
Great to see your channel growing so quickly Neil
Big thanks Nick. So nice of you to say. I’m not as popular as you yet but maybe one day. The Clio videos didn’t really find an audience but this M3 one appears to be doing better.
It's a great quality review
Greatest bmw ever after the E39 m5. I'm on my second e92 m3. Such awesome and we'll rounded cars
AYE OK SURE - 😂😂😂😂😂 clearly know absolutely nothing about cars..not to mind m cars. You are an absolute simpleton. Iv been in all 4 M3s, and owned 3. The E92 is and always will be the daddy.
Glad to hear you’re having a good time with the car and you’ve kept the running costs down. Doing any repair yourself will help a ton as well.
I took my 12-year-old 1993 E36 M3 up to over 200,000 miles and it never missed a beat - no matter what I threw at it. The original clutch lasted 130,000 miles before it gave up, but that was the only thing that ever went on it - the engine was totally untouched in all that time . Like yourself, I carried out regular oil changes (every 5000 Miles) and that really does make a difference to longevity.
I have a 2008 E90 M3 with 83K miles on it and the biggest, expensive failures I've paid for or done myself in the last 7 years: 1) Replace throttle valve actuators, ~$1000 each at budget shop, ~$2000 each at dealer; 2) Replace leaking valve cover gaskets (my DIY cost ~$350; dealer cost ~$1100) 3) Replace leaking oil filter housing gasket ~$600 at budget shop). Tire and fuel costs about the same you mentioned... but in the US, I'm only getting 14 city mpg and 20 highway mpg, usually combined around 15 mpg so it does guzzle gas. Upgrades I recommend and have done: $150 for AFE high flow intake; $1700 for Borla exhaust - sounds amazing and combined estimated 50 hp increase... highly recommend this car if you can stomach the expensive failures, which once fixed, won't happen again for another ~70K miles. Oil changes, even DIY, are expensive as the oil is ~$12 per liter and it takes ~9 liters and filter is ~$20
YOU should do “preventive maintenance “. Specially with internal failures knows on this motor
His rod bearings will go out soon. Ticking time bomb
@@enyce184 It's a myth. Dealer mechanics confirm there is no reason to wet the bed. Beamer Fam channel has one with 133K miles on original bearings, before replacement and he ripped it hard. Not outrageous for a car with that performance.
I got my E90 M3 a year ago and all I’ve replaced was the fuel pump ($1,100). Over all, this car is fantastic.
It's 12k average yearly miles in the States. Being driven conservatively gentle. M3 fan use to dream about owning a canary yellow previous generation. 😎
Same in the UK.
I have a 2008 M3 and I love it...only 38k miles but I plan on really driving it more over this spring/summer; since its CONVERTIBLE.
Even though this vid was made in car it was my favourite so far. The sharp focus on you and blurred fore/background is easy to watch, nice touch.
Cheers James, glad you noticed. It's takes ages to set up the big camera to get the shot but hopefully it's worth it!
Nankang actually make some exceptional quality tires, especially for track use
The voice recognition made my day- I just laughed so much!!
Your videos are very organized. I like your style man, keep up the good work
Thanks man! Will do.
Was looking forward to more M3 vids, thanks Neil. The voice recognition stint was hilarious!
I am shocked how much road tax and tyres are though!
Thanks Matt. Another M3 video this week!
More thank welcome mate :) keep uploading and I'll keep watching
Came to your channel because of the Clio videos and now have already watched every single one of you. I really enjoy this channel, it is great information and for my sense of humor really funny.
Keep going and greetings from Bavaria, Germany
Thanks so much mate. So glad you like the videos. Let me know what you’d like to see next. Is the Clio a popular car in Germany?
Road and Race
In general the Clio is not the most popular car in Germany because the usual ones are just simple, small cars and Renault is still for many a synonym for "zero reliability". But the Renault Clio and Megane RS versions of pretty much every generation are very popular as cars for everyday use AND going on a track. Especially the nordschleife is a place you can find many of them.
I am driving Renault basically all my life and actually a Clio mk 4. I never had any real issues with my Renaults, so I can't understand people talking so much about "bad French cars" without having ever owned one.
I think it's somehow the same as with "an M3 costs you a fortune to own" or "driving Porsche is only possible if you are earning money like a doctor". Everybody heard something, but almost nobody really knows it really.
I think such content about fun but affordable cars (compared to what they did cost new) and how to improve them is a really great topic and not too much on TH-cam yet.
Great review, thanks for letting us know your experience!
a true wonderful car! Very usable and a great allrounder.
Interesting to hear what one man seems to suggest as expensive running costs like TAX, Tyres and fuel but remember a £60k car will still have £60k running costs 10 years on regardless of what you paid for it. Personally I thought the running costs ridiculously cheap for what it is.
I heard those MPG figures and jumped in joy! Here in the USA its about 3 dollars a gallon. My Bronco gets about 7 mpg city
Great video, just subscribed.
Thanks for the sub mate!
Sames
Very very good review. My experiences are the same. Gonna keep this car for a long time. Cheers!
I had 3 M3s and I loved the E36. The e90 was the best at everything when it was working only... now I have an E36 m3 again and I'm in love plus is not the most reliable like my maserati coupe manual.
Great video, the E92’s are very underrated, one of if not the best M3’s to date. I myself owned a gremlin filled E46. And yes the maintenance will kill ya. But, I was looking at picking up an E92, it’s like TH-cam read my mind. Thanks for the information.
Thanks mate!
Really enjoy your videos,always look forward to them. These cars are fantastic last of the real drivers cars.n/a motor that sings you just cannot beat it! Look forward to the next video 👍🏻
Thanks mate. Yeah the V8 above 4000 rpm is mighty.
It’s just something that’s not going to be replicated sadly.its an end of an era for cars,it’s the last car with an identity imo.everything is a 3.0-4.0 turbo now so nothing feels different...all cars are becoming the same!
I have a F32 430d it comes with Potenza run flats fitted which are expensive , did a lot of research online and the reviews on the new Falkens came out well,so I went for them. My local tyre shop quoted me cheaper than My Tyres and Black Circle , I am very pleased saved 30% over the Potenza,s . I have done 6000 miles on them grip, ride and wear seem just as good.
Cool, will check out the Falkens
Run flats are overrated. Ruined a wheel that way because when driving I had no idea my tire was low.
Ive out in about 4k miles in my E90 M3 and I love it it's surprisingly practice biggest complaint would obviously be the gas I fill up around 3 times a week (roughly $150 a week on gas) only repairs I've had to make is a new alternator and rod bearings which was upon buying the car but other than that it's been a very reliable daily and holds its own with carrying groceries
Oh and the oil (10w-60) is pretty pricey too and if you drive like me you will need a quart of so every now and then
Just bought my first M3 vert, these videos are great, defo really helpful 👍🏻
I just bought a 2016 328i for that price
After seeing this video, I wish I could come back in time haha
M3 is such a legend
The design looks awesome even for today’s standards
Many Thanks,
Peace from London. 👍👍
The voice commands LOL!! Great review man!
If you're lookin to buy one of these, find one with the actuators replaced and you should be golden for years to come.
Loved your telephone example 😂.
Cheers Terry!
That was sooo funny. Voice recognition just never ever works.
lol, yeah, that killed me too :DDD
Hey great video, glad you're enjoying the car. I think I may have bought my 2011 M3 just after you got yours. I bought mine with an extended warranty for an extra $5k. Got her in June of 2017.
Since then I've done my own oil change, I changed the spark plugs, cabin air filters, and wiper blades. I also put on a set if Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4s for the winter. I bought a set of cheap wheels for them so I can change them out myself, when I feel like it. I've flushed and filled the coolant, I'm using Brembo pads which cost less than the BMW pads. I changed the sensor wires at the same time too.
Unfortunately I have had some issues. There was a recall on the battery cable that supplies power to all electronics on the car, my car was affected. In fact, I found out about the recall after I experienced the problem. Luckily, my extended warranty covers roadside assistance and BMW Canada paid for the recall service. This was a major failure, nothing on the car worked, you couldn't even start it. The DSC module on the car failed, again... luckily my extended warranty covered the cost of the part and labour which was over $5k, so that extended warranty has paid for itself in less than a year.
Other than that she has been great. I bought her with 87,000 KM and I've put on 9,000 km. Sounds like music and goes like a beast! Track days are fun, daily drives are a little frustrating, as she wants to rev but I rarely have space to let her sing in traffic. Thanks for the vid.
Nice work there. Good to hear you do the jobs on the car yourself.
Very useful as I am considering a purchase of one of these later this year. Thanks!
No problem mate. I've a Buyers Guide too if that helps on the channel.
"Would you like to be connected to terry" - Yesss. Hahahaha dunno why i found this so funny.
One year with my 2011 E92 ZCP has ruined me with performance, sound and luxury.
One shop oil change at $199(usd), at home oil change $129 (usd from FCP Euro), four new tires, $700 and a replacement headlight, moisture $500, off eBay, replaced battery and alternator at home $400 from Autozone and battery reset $75 at local shop. don’t count fuel consumption, as that’s under our own control. Planning rod bearing and respected local shop does it for $2499. Under $5000 in a year, seems pricey for the average driver, but M3 owners aren’t your average driver.
I tried the auto off at stop feature and find it confusing. Turns off to save fuel but we know start up takes more fuel than driving.
Tyre thread or tread? 😏
Fraser P he’s reverse Irish
Tyre or tire
@@blainegabbertgabonemhofgoa6602 tiere
Or was it Fred
@@blainegabbertgabonemhofgoa6602 tyre in english.
I know this is an old video, but recent viewers should know that using oil analysis to track rod bearing wear is not reliable (unless you do it from the beginning of new bearings). Their have been engine failures (from rod bearings) shortly after oil analysis had been done showing all clear!
For some evidence showing that, check out my thread called "S65 Oil reports collation - does oil analysis work for tracking bearing wear?" at the M3 post or M3 cutters forum.
Great video 👍🏼 always good to hear about the actual costs
Thanks mate.
Make sure you do the conrod bearings before 70,000 mate. They really need to be done. My friend owns a BMW specialist workshop and he takes badly burnt bearings out of motors that seemingly run perfectly.
beautiful should be getting a 05 one by the end of the month such a beautiful car
Before committing to the Michilens, give Continental Extreme Contacts a try. I run those on my car, and it's nearly as good as the PS but cost must less.
Cool, thanks for the tip!
The 08 and the 09 models have the copper rod bearings, whereas the 10-13 models have aluminum. So there’s no way to really test the oil if your model is 10 and up. I would do the bearings regardless just piece of mind. Cheers
Testing the oil doesn't always find rod bearing problems with the lead/copper ones anyway.
Off the back of this video, I just totalled up the cost of my E46 M3 on maintenance and repairs in 2017 alone. Total: £2,798.98 - not including some of the work I’ve done myself.
Christ almighty, should be getting something newer 😭
rapidvtec it’s either repairs or a Monthly payment..
They are stupid easy to work on. Learn how to wrench
8:21, this is wierd, I was watching that episode of Columbo yesterday and haven't watched Columbo in about 30 years.
I love my M3 E92 and will never sell it.
Knock knock
I am dying to get one, can't find one that has been taken care of in my area though it's a bummer.
Yes, owning a 2013 M3 E92 w/competition package, DCT, CF roof, all options except heated seats, has ruined me in the under $100K car range. The M3 w/V-8 has been a very dependable and very reliable daily driver. Yes parts are expensive and dealerships overcharge for every service with tires at TWICE the normal price which bothers me the most! Plus even the dealership usually has to order a tire most always not in stock, so new tire means a DROP OFF & WAIT 2 DAYS.........but my dealership provides LOANER cars FOR FREE! That loaner program will figure in heavily as to if I buy my next car via their sales team. Loaners bring back buyers! The M3 E92 V8 is a car that will always put a smile on your face, every time you start it up! BUY ONE NOW, DO NOT WAIT for prices to go UP. It’s so much fun to drive even going to get groceries can be fun if you take that long, twisty road to the store..............(stock everything & still fun) but wait till I supercharge at 7 years of ownership.
You would sell if you drove an e46 M3
Old one much better quality, they are getting expensive and less life span...
I got my 2009 e90 m3 10 month ago and I’ve put about 18,000 miles. Best car I’ve owned and live in Colorado so we get all kinds of weather
love the comfort open feature
Bahahahaha
Drives daily ?? Done 6k miles in a year ?? Gearbox it STILL good??
Use PAGID (cheapest)brakes in m3 ??
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what other brake pads would you suggest?
Great review... glad to hear you have plenty of "thread" left on your tyres.
Cheers Chris. Okay, okay, give me a break!
Road and Race Haha, always love watching your vids, own an e46 m3 and Clio 182 myself
Cheers Chris. Good choice of motors you have there! Do you track them?
Road and Race track m3 a bit Yeah, just got Clio a few months ago and busy doing mot repairs as been off the road awhile.
Fuji Customs spelt not "spelled" haha we could go on all day ;)
Four months into my ownership of a 2011 E92 ZCP(comp package). Fillups average $35usd, Nitto tires are $540 a set but will last four years. First oil service $100 at a BMW shop(not dealer), nothing more. My water bill has gone up as I wash it all the time.
All this is moot as the fun of driving is overwhelming.
You've got cheap fuel in the US 😛
I bought my competition pack car back in October, so not had any decent temps to enjoy it, just put the dct in auto the thing drives itself virtually, I am very careful to warm it up properly though so as not to put too much strain on the rod bearings from cold. Only 1570 competition pack cars made and mine is in interlagos blue only 313 rhd cars made in that colour and a fraction of those in comp pack form.
So cool. Love that colour. Yeah, good advice about the bearings.
1 question , what makes rod bearings usually break?
Munzir Rafik they don't break they wear out. With lack of lubrication because 10w60 oil is quite thick when cold so lubrication happens properly when the engine is fully warmed up and the viscosity of the oil thins out thus giving much better lubrication so reducing wear on the bearings. Hope that helps.
E92 M3 GUY yeah thanks for advie . So my country has lowest temp by 27c . does that help alot ?
Munzir Rafik certainly does , it means it will warm up far quicker. A few weeks ago it was minus 6 degrees C. Here in northern England.
This is a great looking car!
BMW-E90-HQ r.
No, its not.
Lol leaf grills, I wish on the e46 m3 that was all I had to worry about. I did 35k miles in 2 years in mine and that got fairly expensive... boot floor crack repair/reinforcement, shims, new alternator, servicing, tyres, brakes, tax... cost around £6k not including fuel (avg 20mpg) and mods... then on top there’s that imminent smg pump failure paranoia lol... If that goes it’s another £2-4K to get it replaced. Luckily though it never missed a beat... but the e92 seems like a relative steal compared.
Great review, glad to hear you have had a great ownership experience!
Cheers mate, so kind of you to say.
most beautiful 3er ever
Very useful video. I've always wanted an E92. Now that I can afford the M3 I'm likely to buy one.
Calling Terry had me in stitches 🤣🤣
Brilliant video, look forward to seeing more
Nice one, glad you are enjoying your m3! It does look mint and of course I have no doubt it is a riot to drive. Cheers, Pedro.
Thanks mate. You at Abingdon in Feb?
Very nice video. Love the voice recognition feature demo bit in particular.
330i e92 2008 here. First.6 months:
- wipers, side mirrors, all coils, all spark plugs, all injectors, nox sensor, all tyres, front wheel bearings, and I still have to sort out leak.
We re looking on or around 3.5K now. Bought for 6k. Yeah bargain. Now Im during claim case against dealer which stated condition is "mint". Imagine this guy is a race driver and maybe not really famous but active. Damn
positive introduction and review on the car. my man
Thanks John.
Two seats in back because of prop shaft running through centre of seats. Not enough room for it to be a worthwhile seat.
Really informative review, you explained everything that even a layman could understand
Just bought a 2012 space Grey e93 with same palladium silver interior.
Just an amazing oral experience each time I use it...
Perhaps you mean aural?
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Oil analysis doesn't mean shit, if you get a used one, replaced the bearings. Unless the person before you has been doing the oil testing every oil change you are not gonna be able to detect the bearings going out. Not having previous data to compare your data with is a big issue. This is really bad advice, the first thing you should do when getting an e92 m3 is the bearings so you don't need to rebuild the engine.
Funny how to me an 11 year old car seams new😂 my mx5 is 23 years old, with 50k on the clock so is still in great shape, with next to no body/ chassis rust👍🏻
THE PROBLEMS ARE WITH GEARBOX AND ENGINE
50k is like new so yeah, not that strange that it feels like new if youi compare it to an 10 year old car with 250k (mine)
Ruben Witters I mean a 10 year old car seems new when I think mine is 23 years old, actually older than me👌🏻
Thats because mx5 electro mechanical parts shit all over german parts.
For instance compare a mx5 window regulator to a bmw one. Look at the quality difference.
khurramsultan2012 very true, Japanese cars are very well built👌🏻
Dude I got the famous throttle actuator failure on my 2011 M3 E92.
At the dealership they quote 5830€/5200£ for the labour which is totally crazy!
I've replaced them by myself with a DIY guide on TH-cam and that costed me 600€/550£ total with a rebuild of my own actuators!
That is a serious cost if you cannot do the job by yourself tough.
I keep thinking about getting one or C63 AMG as my midlife crisis but the fuel & road tax could are hard to justify.
Nice video. Thx for sharing. I’ve had good luck with my 08 e93 ,great cars!
Brilliant review, road tax is one of the major problem
Always appreciate the thoughtful and detailed approach you take to your videos. Just posted my first video yesterday (quick runs at a local auto-x event) inspired by your channel to get out there and share in the trials and tribulations of a love affair with cars! Keep up the great work. I hope to create content you'd follow in the coming weeks and months. D
Thanks, that’s so kind of you to say. I really appreciate that. Will check out your vid.
Throttle Accuaters is something to look out for theres 2 of them and cost about 1500.
Yep used mine as a daily and cost a fortune in fuel alone.
Interested in your comments on Nangkang tyres - think that is a little unfair - they have been excellent
Solid review.
Solid Channel. 👍
Thanks mate
Mines at 110k, no rod bearings replaced yet, Molly oil every 10k, no tick or problems yet... trying to save up for rod bearing replacement but so far so good.
Subbed! Brilliant video, so professional and informative!
Nankangs are actually really quite good (in the dry) and fun in the wet, ive had plenty of 400bhp+ cars and always swapped out what ever rubber is on them for nankangs, i cant imagine how you are getting 2 years out of rear tyres, i dont think ive ever had a set of rears last a year, no matter which rubber 😂
Great review of a car I hopefully own in the future. One thing on the road tax. I would love if the road tax for the e92 M3 was the equivalent of £535 a year here in Ireland where its actually €2350 per annum!! What a load of nonsense!
Plus the VRT we have to pay close to double the price to purchase the cars
Have you thought about doing the 2 pipe mod? Paul the Welder is the benchmark, and the best 200 pounds you can spend on an E92 M3 to make it sound like it should.
Already done mate. I talk about it in my M3 Mods video.
Yes, sorry, only saw that video afterwards. Super mod! And thank for the excellent videos!
Thanks mate!
Yo man, this is such a good review of this car seeing as I hope and pray to own one of these one day! You have a lovely colour there and as a I said, a fantastic car
Thanks for the review especially concerning cost of ownership. I'm shopping for one right now. Great looking car except, I guess you know, they put your steering wheel on the wrong side :)
We have the steering wheel on the right side it’s the rest of the world that’s wrong. Hope you find a good one. My sons got one they are one hell of a car.
I’m really considering upgrading my e46 325ci to an m3 and this video has helped big time. It’s really eye opening to how much the running cost of this incredible machine. But like you said you get what you pay for. Thanks bud.
Great video as always Neil. I'd like to see you sell it purely for selfish reasons as it's great to get your in-depth insight on cars you've owned. Tough car to replace tho.
Thanks mate, so nice if you to say! Yeah will be a tough one to replace!
Tesla have offered me a press loan of their Model S in a few week so I’ll get to review that soon.
Hello from Ireland. I pay around £600 a year tax on an e46 320d.
Your M3 would have an annual road tax of £2061 here.
That's not a typo!
Hope that makes you feel slightly better. Great channel BTW 👍
Wow that is expensive! Thanks for the kind words mate.
That is absolutely brutal! I thought I was bad with 500 + 300 here in the U.K.
Hi.....I have searched the internet and am unable to find a 2008-2012 service manual. I know they are out there. Do you know where I could get one? If so please provide a link. There are many people with M3's looking for a manaul and torque specs. Thanks!
Great video Neil👍
Thanks mate.
Best to keep it as your 'leisure/weekend' car.....
😂😂high car tax 500pounds a year! In Ireland this car 2007 is 1809euro and 2008 onwards 2350 a year! Great review - love the e92 M3
What? In germany its like 400€
@@MicroageHD What? In Slovakia it's exactly 0€ :)