These prison and war museums bring it home I tried to go through the huge one in HCMC but broke down and had to wait outside. I can never get the images of the children that were killed or maimed out of my mind I only pray it never comes to that again . Thank you for the great videos you are doing .
Yeah Joanne, I hear ya. Not very nice some of the photos etc. I did have a walk round the museum part of this prison but decided not to show it. I thought the guys in the barb wired boxes was enough. Thanks for watching though Joanne, I bet it was hard.
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There's something strange about having what looks like a nightmare of a prison on a paradise island. Very different times. It's good that you show this though and not just the pretty stuff. Stay safe Simon.
Cheers Gary. Yeah I thought it good to show the good, the bad and the ugly. Mostly good, this was bad, we have some ugly coming up!! 😳 Cheers Gary you too.
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Wow, sounds a bit rough mate. 😳Hope you are allowed cheeky beers some how, I know how difficult it is in places like Bahrain through friends who have been.
Well done for showing this it would have been easy to ignore it , but its important for for us all remember what us humans can do to each other .when I was in Singapore I went to the Changi jail Museum I can tell you it was very graphic indeed very upsetting . What those poor prisoners when through was unbelievable and that some survived it , but we must remember and make sure it does not happen again, I know that there are some that want us to forget but we must remember.
Yes Michael, there are some people who want to forget some aspects of life but this is one reminder which will stay. It's not even paid entry so its not like they are profiting from it either, same with Ho Chi Minh's Mausoleum, free entry. Great place to visit and when it is baking hot you can truly appreciate the suffering those guys in the cages endured. Thanks for watching Michael as always, loyal supporter of Travel Agent Hanoi. Cheers
Some of these techniques sound familiar 🤔.... Banging the walls ☑️ loudspeakers in the ears ☑️ bright lights in your eyes ☑️ sitting in a hot box AKA classroom without air conditioning ☑️ 🤣🤪 honestly mate I skip those types of things they're so depressing. Hey 10,000 views in one day!!!🎉🎉👍
I could be wrong, but the 'walkway' between the first three-four 'outward' facing barbwire fences (with the coils of the same in between), and the other three-four 'inward' fences (with same as the outward), wasn't just for the guards ... Don't quote me, as I can't remember the source, but, at night, dogs, like specifically Dobermann pinschers, would be given free reign to run around the perimeter, without control of their handlers ... Depending on their training, as with all dogs, you can train them to be incredibly loving ... ... or very volatile, especially breeds that have a naturally 'high prey drive'; those breeds could be trained to not just attack on sight ... ... but, in the brutal underworld of dog-fighting, incredibly vicious, by amplifying that prey instinct to a horrific degree ... So, aside from the mental, and psychological strain, of being behind almost a fortress of barbwire, of living - if one could even call it that - in horrific circumstances, begotten out of the fury of war; to endure horrific torture, overseen by the supposedly 'humane' Americans ... of course many chose to escape ... if you _could_ cut through the three-four 'inward walls', past the coils placed in the gaps between, before you can even start cutting through the next layers, you run the risk of a Dobermann, picking up your scent ... If you survived being out in a Tiger Cage, for so long, then returned to the barracks, the sweltering temperatures, even at nigh, and not least because you had to have used the end furthest from the 'door' you were pushed in through, as your 'toilet', the sweat, along with all the other odours, would be stuck to you like PVA. The dogs would be very likely trained to pick up that scent, and, with aggression training ... I don't know the physical bite force of a Dobermann, but, if comparable to a Rottweiler, can easily tear through exposed flesh. Interestingly enough, there is a recognised breed which is a cross between those two. Going by Rottermanns, amongst many others, I don't know if the US and/or South Vietnamese used them, but that would be a formidable dog, set loose in that path, perhaps only slightly bigger than 3½ - 4' in width ... meaning no real way of escape ... With the fence gates closed, and the pathway gates open, allowing the dogs to run around the perimeter at night, even if you managed to cut your way through the 'inwards' fences, you run the gauntlet of those dogs. Facing yet another 'wall' of barbwire, you have to cut quickly through that fence, without the dog getting to you, then facing the next coil. And yet, even if you somehow do all of that, then what ...? During WWII, the Japanese built PoW Camps with just enough fencing to make it a camp ... But the real walls was the jungle. Unless you had very specific training, in jungle orienteering, getting lost was all too easy. I may be incorrect in saying this, but I'm not sure if the Japanese chased after escaped American and British PoWs, simply because, again, without expert training, getting lost in the jungle, especially with venomous snakes abound, they probably rated the chances of surviving to get to a neutral/friendly nation was slim to zero ... What's ironic though, is, despite the multi-layers of defensive fencing, patrol dogs included; the Tiger Cages; being locked up in what would be today a 36-38ft shipping container (if such size exists ...); the many, and varied, torture techniques that the South Vietnamese used against the NVA/Viet Cong PoWs, not least used as a human 'stir-fry', in side the barracks, with the 'bed' likely just planks, on raised platforms, how the hell did they not see the tunnel entrance, unless the 'platforms' had vertical boards, running across them, thus hiding what was beneath, with the structure of the barracks forming the other 'wall'. But, even with the NVA/Viet Cong's expertise in digging tunnels, doing so, in likely pitch blackness, with maybe a stolen torch, lighters, or any source of light, to be able to dig _that_ far, as seen in another video, that's well over 200yrds, if not further, showed just how much determination they had to escape, despite all the torture they went through ... that's Endurance. It's no wonder that, having fought the French for a while, before the - mostly- Americans plus Australians, and possibly New Zealanders as well, turned up, they already had the knowledge of how to wage a asymmetrical war on their front yard. The Punji (Sp?) Stick traps were the most well known, but many others, did more damage, without killing people. They quickly realised that by severely injuring one man, the amount of resources needed to medi-evac that one man, likely half a dozen personnel each, that soaked up a lot of manpower. So, for all the chances of killing one enemy, the NVA/Viet Cong was mostly about severely injuring, and not so much being out right killers, except when it came to actual armed fighting, using Chinese supplied weaponry, likely to be their version of the classic AK-47, and others very much like it, especially as a fully automatic, belt fed, weapon. The effect of the combination of being severely injured, from concealed traps any where from ankle to head height, with those coming down from above being exceptionally brutal, along with ambush, hit and run tactics, as they knew those various parts of their front yard well, meant for a newbie, the violence inflicted on civilians was outrageous ... But, as the platoon he joined, was repeatedly hit, either by traps, rapid gun fire out of nowhere, creating, effectively, an invisible enemy, as time wore on, and how worn down he became, the line between NVA/Viet Cong, and those civilians from the North, and even some of the South, gradually vanished: they looked the same; spoke and sounded the same; and even smelled the same, inevitably they became the same ... With Viet Cong, especially, having had successfully infiltrated the South, through use of large spy networks, everyone was suspected as a 'sleeper' agent, there was an inevitability, that the South Vietnamese in particular, would turn to using torture techniques, which the Americans may very have copied, and/or adapted, for themselves, it's no wonder such PoWs, that turned out to be actual captured NVA/Viet Cong,, ended up facing such horrors, especially as fury of facing an invisible army, having seen what injuries could be inflicted, not least missing limbs, all that pent up fury had to be vented, except, in this case, on actual, innocent civilians. There are just too many incidents to count, let alone go into detail. That, sadly, is part of the Vietnam War, of fighting an asymmetrical war on the enemies home turf ... and the inevitable spiral down into hell ...
It has certainly come up trumps, really amazing country. I hope you have already or will get the chance to come soon. Beautiful country. Thanks for watching.
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thank you for showing us.
No problem.
These prison and war museums bring it home I tried to go through the huge one in HCMC but broke down and had to wait outside. I can never get the images of the children that were killed or maimed out of my mind I only pray it never comes to that again . Thank you for the great videos you are doing .
Yeah Joanne, I hear ya. Not very nice some of the photos etc. I did have a walk round the museum part of this prison but decided not to show it. I thought the guys in the barb wired boxes was enough. Thanks for watching though Joanne, I bet it was hard.
Thank you
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There's something strange about having what looks like a nightmare of a prison on a paradise island. Very different times. It's good that you show this though and not just the pretty stuff. Stay safe Simon.
Cheers Gary. Yeah I thought it good to show the good, the bad and the ugly. Mostly good, this was bad, we have some ugly coming up!! 😳 Cheers Gary you too.
sangat mengerikan penjara Phu Quoch membuat saya merinding dan miris sekali melihat tempat penyiksaan yang sangat tidak manusiawi.
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Thank you mate, appreciate that. Cheers
welcome to phu quoc
Beautiful place...but lots of unused land between the main road and the resorts. Do you know why this is, or who owns it? Ant plans to develop on it?
Looks like the place in Bahrain where I am currently isolating 😃
Wow, sounds a bit rough mate. 😳Hope you are allowed cheeky beers some how, I know how difficult it is in places like Bahrain through friends who have been.
@@TravelAgentHanoi aye, managed to smuggle a few beers in so not too bad, only 8 weeks to go then back to Thailand..😃
Thanks for the insight into prison life. I couldn't comprehend what the prisoners went through.. Probably hell and worse 😭.
Yeah Ste, incredible. Every time I looked at the next torture method I was like, WTF!
Thanks AD
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What goes around, comes around ;)
For who Daniel? Thanks for watching.
@@TravelAgentHanoi haha just saying the same torture techniques didn't come internally 😉😁
Didn't us British invent torture?! 😳
@@TravelAgentHanoi shhhhh
Well done for showing this it would have been easy to ignore it , but its important for for us all remember what us humans can do to each other .when I was in Singapore I went to the Changi jail Museum I can tell you it was very graphic indeed very upsetting . What those poor prisoners when through was unbelievable and that some survived it , but we must remember and make sure it does not happen again, I know that there are some that want us to forget but we must remember.
Yes Michael, there are some people who want to forget some aspects of life but this is one reminder which will stay. It's not even paid entry so its not like they are profiting from it either, same with Ho Chi Minh's Mausoleum, free entry. Great place to visit and when it is baking hot you can truly appreciate the suffering those guys in the cages endured. Thanks for watching Michael as always, loyal supporter of Travel Agent Hanoi. Cheers
Heard about it but never seen it. Until now. Quite confronting what the troops were up against. As I would suggest both sides were doing it.
Great place to get another point of view. Thanks for watching Derek.
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For sure.
Some of these techniques sound familiar 🤔.... Banging the walls ☑️ loudspeakers in the ears ☑️ bright lights in your eyes ☑️ sitting in a hot box AKA classroom without air conditioning ☑️ 🤣🤪 honestly mate I skip those types of things they're so depressing. Hey 10,000 views in one day!!!🎉🎉👍
Yeah I hear ya mate. Not in one day though mate, over a year 😁
I could be wrong, but the 'walkway' between the first three-four 'outward' facing barbwire fences (with the coils of the same in between), and the other three-four 'inward' fences (with same as the outward), wasn't just for the guards ...
Don't quote me, as I can't remember the source, but, at night, dogs, like specifically Dobermann pinschers, would be given free reign to run around the perimeter, without control of their handlers ...
Depending on their training, as with all dogs, you can train them to be incredibly loving ...
... or very volatile, especially breeds that have a naturally 'high prey drive'; those breeds could be trained to not just attack on sight ...
... but, in the brutal underworld of dog-fighting, incredibly vicious, by amplifying that prey instinct to a horrific degree ...
So, aside from the mental, and psychological strain, of being behind almost a fortress of barbwire, of living - if one could even call it that - in horrific circumstances, begotten out of the fury of war; to endure horrific torture, overseen by the supposedly 'humane' Americans ... of course many chose to escape ...
if you _could_ cut through the three-four 'inward walls', past the coils placed in the gaps between, before you can even start cutting through the next layers, you run the risk of a Dobermann, picking up your scent ...
If you survived being out in a Tiger Cage, for so long, then returned to the barracks, the sweltering temperatures, even at nigh, and not least because you had to have used the end furthest from the 'door' you were pushed in through, as your 'toilet', the sweat, along with all the other odours, would be stuck to you like PVA. The dogs would be very likely trained to pick up that scent, and, with aggression training ...
I don't know the physical bite force of a Dobermann, but, if comparable to a Rottweiler, can easily tear through exposed flesh.
Interestingly enough, there is a recognised breed which is a cross between those two. Going by Rottermanns, amongst many others, I don't know if the US and/or South Vietnamese used them, but that would be a formidable dog, set loose in that path, perhaps only slightly bigger than 3½ - 4' in width ... meaning no real way of escape ...
With the fence gates closed, and the pathway gates open, allowing the dogs to run around the perimeter at night, even if you managed to cut your way through the 'inwards' fences, you run the gauntlet of those dogs. Facing yet another 'wall' of barbwire, you have to cut quickly through that fence, without the dog getting to you, then facing the next coil.
And yet, even if you somehow do all of that, then what ...?
During WWII, the Japanese built PoW Camps with just enough fencing to make it a camp ...
But the real walls was the jungle. Unless you had very specific training, in jungle orienteering, getting lost was all too easy. I may be incorrect in saying this, but I'm not sure if the Japanese chased after escaped American and British PoWs, simply because, again, without expert training, getting lost in the jungle, especially with venomous snakes abound, they probably rated the chances of surviving to get to a neutral/friendly nation was slim to zero ...
What's ironic though, is, despite the multi-layers of defensive fencing, patrol dogs included; the Tiger Cages; being locked up in what would be today a 36-38ft shipping container (if such size exists ...); the many, and varied, torture techniques that the South Vietnamese used against the NVA/Viet Cong PoWs, not least used as a human 'stir-fry', in side the barracks, with the 'bed' likely just planks, on raised platforms, how the hell did they not see the tunnel entrance, unless the 'platforms' had vertical boards, running across them, thus hiding what was beneath, with the structure of the barracks forming the other 'wall'.
But, even with the NVA/Viet Cong's expertise in digging tunnels, doing so, in likely pitch blackness, with maybe a stolen torch, lighters, or any source of light, to be able to dig _that_ far, as seen in another video, that's well over 200yrds, if not further, showed just how much determination they had to escape, despite all the torture they went through ... that's Endurance.
It's no wonder that, having fought the French for a while, before the - mostly- Americans plus Australians, and possibly New Zealanders as well, turned up, they already had the knowledge of how to wage a asymmetrical war on their front yard.
The Punji (Sp?) Stick traps were the most well known, but many others, did more damage, without killing people. They quickly realised that by severely injuring one man, the amount of resources needed to medi-evac that one man, likely half a dozen personnel each, that soaked up a lot of manpower. So, for all the chances of killing one enemy, the NVA/Viet Cong was mostly about severely injuring, and not so much being out right killers, except when it came to actual armed fighting, using Chinese supplied weaponry, likely to be their version of the classic AK-47, and others very much like it, especially as a fully automatic, belt fed, weapon.
The effect of the combination of being severely injured, from concealed traps any where from ankle to head height, with those coming down from above being exceptionally brutal, along with ambush, hit and run tactics, as they knew those various parts of their front yard well, meant for a newbie, the violence inflicted on civilians was outrageous ...
But, as the platoon he joined, was repeatedly hit, either by traps, rapid gun fire out of nowhere, creating, effectively, an invisible enemy, as time wore on, and how worn down he became, the line between NVA/Viet Cong, and those civilians from the North, and even some of the South, gradually vanished: they looked the same; spoke and sounded the same; and even smelled the same, inevitably they became the same ...
With Viet Cong, especially, having had successfully infiltrated the South, through use of large spy networks, everyone was suspected as a 'sleeper' agent, there was an inevitability, that the South Vietnamese in particular, would turn to using torture techniques, which the Americans may very have copied, and/or adapted, for themselves, it's no wonder such PoWs, that turned out to be actual captured NVA/Viet Cong,, ended up facing such horrors, especially as fury of facing an invisible army, having seen what injuries could be inflicted, not least missing limbs, all that pent up fury had to be vented, except, in this case, on actual, innocent civilians. There are just too many incidents to count, let alone go into detail.
That, sadly, is part of the Vietnam War, of fighting an asymmetrical war on the enemies home turf ... and the inevitable spiral down into hell ...
Wow, so descriptive and informative. Thank you very much for that. All the best.
there is no proof that the ARVN Military police tortured these POWs. there is footage if you search it up during the war in this camp
Interesting, I will have a search. Thanks for watching.
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With all the horrible things the Americans, French did to this country and today it’s a very beautiful country with great people.
It has certainly come up trumps, really amazing country. I hope you have already or will get the chance to come soon. Beautiful country. Thanks for watching.
Đây chính là dân chủ, nhân quyền và sự bảo vệ của nước MỸ dành cho Việt Nam .
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Jesus, (no pun intended)
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Most Vietnamese people are Buddhists. In the past, Buddhism was the most popular religion in Vietnam.
When you come to Vietnam you should not show that you are Catholic or you will be hated.
:'(
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