What if No One Won WW2? The Thousand Week Reich Lore - 8bit Alternate History
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What if nobody won WW2? Well okay, Germany sorta does in this scenario but Japan doesn't so let's consider it a draw. This video is based on the Thousand Week Reich (TWR) mod for Hearts of Iron IV (HOI4).
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im so fucking disapointed in you
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I’d still call it “what it germany won wwii”, but actually taking the realism route over the complete chaos route that leads it to be a much worse and less interesting fantasy world but also a much better alternate history
virgin TNO vs Chad TWR
@Safwaan Why would the Germans have pushed that far? Operation Barbarossa was only ever meant to reach the A-A line, which would've already been enough to deprive the Soviets of most of their population and resources. They could've maybe pushed for the Urals as a buffer zone at some point, but Siberia and Central Asia are desolate by comparison and the logistical nightmare of occupying all that territory would outweigh any possible benefit. In TWR Azerbaijan is already a part of RKS Kaukasus and the only Caucasian country that isn't is Armenia, which I could see the Germans annexing or puppeting but could also just be unimportant enough to be left alone
As for Japan, if we're talking about TWR then none of that matters because Japan still loses.
Not in Hitler's wildest dreams did he consider the slender resources of Germany capable of conquering more than Continental Europe. Perhaps the Germans would have ruled some territory through puppets beyond their borders, but the German state itself was never, no matter how successfull the Wehrmact was, going to extent to much beyond what is presented in this mod. The whole 'Germany wanted the conquer the world' thing was just not possible, nor ever in the German plans.
tno is better than twr, much more content and its more fun. yeah the lore is quite stupid but its not mesnt to be realidtic, i dont get why people hate for no reason, tno is a very fun mod
@@mrminicalico4579 i never played twr but tno is basically a "look at the screen and do nothing" simulator
I think it's more "What if Germany won WW2 but Japan lost"
I mean it’s not that Germany won WW2, there was never a true World War 2. It was several separate conflicts.
@@obiwankenobi4252 aka a war that everyone calls wwII which Germany won.
Japan just couldn't survive when in collision course with the USA.
If the US wanted Japan dead, there is no way they couldn't win a total victory.
The most realistic www axis victory scenario
Japan lost is inevitable, they cant compete with us supremacy and their army spread too thin across china and south east asia
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Me: *skip skip skip skip skip skip*
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Over 10% of these videos these days are stupid ads.
Vanced: i have no such weakness
@@KorianHUN Over 10% of all videos at this point.
The only reason they do that is because TH-cam likes to randomly demonetize things.
Especially about subjects like World War II
I think it’s because it mentions the
“funny mustache man” but who knows.
lavrentiy beria in charge of the soviet union is the most cursed timeline
wow that Beria guy seems like a great dude I wonder what his thoughts on the age of consent are...
In all fairness, he's presented as being very unpopular, both within the Communist Party and the general population. It's him dying within the first few months of the game that lets the USSR's remnants finally do something to fix their situation.
hey lois, I am leading a siberian warlord factions
Respect for keeping the massive voice crack at 5:51.
i really like your pixel art styles in your videos
Why does your pfp looks like toilet sign?
jk
I love how out of all the alternate timelines people could possibly make a Hoi4 mod out of, everyone just decides to do Germany wins.... again
6:28 Social Credit Balance: -99999999999999999999999
Otherwise known as the more Realistic TNO minus the batshit insanity the mod has
With the English hoi4 youtube being stretched so thin, I have to come back to these videos just to remember what are the mods
Et beh les recommandations ça va vite ahah.
Is Crimea Russian or Ukrainian? Well in this timeline it belongs to Raid Shadow Legends!
russia is like ww1 when germany beated russia
I'll give him a pass for the sponsor because this video was made in 2021
Every day i discover a new mod for this game
8:28 sonic the hedgehog
Support for ya brother
The axis kinda won but japan tho oof
Pretty sure Italy failed to invade Greece as well or will fail because pretty sure the invasion of Greece would still happen except this time without German support.
@@Demicleas pretty sure when i played greece was a italian puppet but they might break away
Japan wasn't part of the Axis anyway.
@@noodled6145irl they were or are you taking about this timeline
The Mod in a Nutshell:
German Civil War but the Allies intervine and defeat Germany 9/10 times
Literally just that
Not really Toronto accord does nothing if you finish the civil war in a normal speed they literally never intervene even if you decide to go behind Ural mountains
Civil war does not happen if you do political focuses and declare succesor to the world
On the Russian "republic": "republic" merely refers to a country which isn't led by a monarch or clericals.
Nazi Germany also was a republic, just a lot more fascist than others with the exception of the USA.
Can u plzzzz do 'Man in the high castle', even though it's not a hoi4 mod?
What if World War III started When the Soviet union suit existing
The whole reason for the scenario is pretty stupid. Dunkirk in reality didnt have that much impact on the war as a whole.
In real life it didn't because hitler purposely stalled and allowed the british army to escape- if he didn't and simply crushed and killed or captured all of those men, it would have been a devestating blow to the british- but I agree that it probably wouldnt have made the U.K surrender immediately.
Losing 338,000 troops for the cost of nearly nothing for the nazi's would have been absolutely devestating, and made an invasion of the U.K far easier though, especially since that army was the U.K's most elite and well trained troops.
@@WelcomeToDERPLAND Hitler didnt stale the advance, they simply couldnt push, and the main problem of the British wasnt the manpower, but the equipment that they lost
@@bebedor_de_cafe3272 That's a complete lie.
Hitler ordered his forces to stand down for 48 hours, allowing for the escape.
While it's true that the British empire had plenty of manpower to draw upon from their colonies, The Expeditionary force was their most elite army at their disposal, it was their professional standing army. Not to mention there were also allies at dunkirk, like the remains of the French 1st army, and some low lands strugglers.
While its not certain it would have "won the war" had this army been crushed and captured, It's easy to say that the loss of nearly 400,000 elite troops would have been a devestating blow to the British and French free army, which would come back to bite Hitler in the ass in Africa and even later Normandy/Sicily.
For Reference, Wikipedia states that Britian's TOTAL military casualties were 383,000 deaths over the entirety of ww2, losing the army at Dunkirk would have almost doubled that number.
@@WelcomeToDERPLAND an invasion of the uk wouldn't have been made any easier by killing 338,000 army soldiers. The problem was the British navy, not its army.
@@WelcomeToDERPLAND Still, they expected losing the army at Dunkirk. It was just a very pleasent surprise that they didnt.
4?? 4 nukes?!
they play jojo music for japan lol
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Some good points but mainly poor. Hitler's armistice with the British Empire would show the need for radical change within the UK. De Gaulle would not necessary be supported as Vichy France would be recognised. British troops had performed well against the Italians taking Ethiopia and pushing the Italians back in the North Africa desert. Perhaps Greece would be free and no Balkan war by the Germans. The USA was still struggling with its economy and in OTL somewhat saved by the war and asset stripping the British Empire. The Japanese could bypass the Philippines as the USA was not going to support European colonies in the Asia. Securing vital oil resources in Dutch East Indies and the battle for the Indian Ocean would be long and hard. Could China hang on, the IJA was ruthless and cutting off supplies from India. Might just see them through. Could the fall of Singapore lead to the fall of another British Government a La Dunkirk?
someone would have to win for someone to loose
If in a war all country's just have their entire army die and be put into extreme instability it is a lost war for both sides, especially if those nations would collapse like Yugoslavia or the soviets.
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5:50 nice voicecrack lol
It was all fun game till RAID SHADOW LEGEND
what is the music at 6:26? it's so beautiful
taiwan anthem
Continue red flood
I love how in every timeline the French are the biggest losers of ww2 :3
I thought there are no mod that no one ww 2
I completly disagree with your take on the outcome of germanys victory
1/8th of the video was a Raid Shadow Legends ad. Gross.
Didn’t you say Corsica was given to Italy?
Your map is wrong…
PRT 2!!!
Nukes
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So basically just watered down TNO, nice
I'm not sure if the United States could declare war on Japan without declaring war on Europe the main reason why we started arguing with Japan was because they attacked China and the colonies of our allies such as French Indochina. Plus Roosevelt and many of the people he surrounded themselves with were Soviet sympathizers and/or spies. Although I think it would be better if we stayed out of the war considering that it greatly contributed to the expansion of communism which was much worse than the enemy we were fighting. Even General Patton and General MacArthur agreed.
You are delusional if you think communism is in any way on the same level of evil as Nazism or Japanese Imperialism
@@henrikfitch4017 By no means I condone violence. But over 100 million (compared to the 2 million killed in the Holocaust) were murdered by Stalin and Mao through starvation, persecution, prison labour, and mass executions while 10 million died from the deliberate famine of British India. 226,000 people died from Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and 410,000 died from Ally bombing of Germany
@@henrikfitch4017 because communism is actually bad.
@@habibihabibi7115 Judging by the profile pic you are the kind of edgy teen who thinks that Fascism "isn't actually bad". So I really don't want to talk to you.
@@nickmoser7785 "10 million died from.the deliberate famine of british india." Firstly it wasn't 10 million, it was 3 million and secondly it wasn't deliberate, it was caused by the Japanese conquest of Burma which is where most of the grain for bengal came from.
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ever heard about red flood hoi4 mod?
Yes I did a video on it lol
oh, missed it then i guess, my bad@@LoganProductions
In potential 2 episode covering scenarios which can happen during the game please tell about all of this Zapadoslavia idea, I think it is even a main mod lore after the starting date.
Ooooh Zapadoslavia, I like that
West slavic countries but epic
I've had a guy form Zapadoslavia in a discord nation rp once.
1:48 the beach resort where the sand is oddly red and there’s... human bones in the water...
Yeah ignore that I’m sure that’s just a mirage
Don't worry about it bro, Heydrich is just out trolling
Oh no, I think I recognise the bodies in the water
What?
@@ЙованДобройевичь Gotenland in game was created as Reinhard Heydrich's personal play ground and he preceded at ethnically cleansing all of the area frim it's original inhabitants and replace them with ethnic Germans in the only effective in-universe branch of the generalplan ost.
Oh, and then he built a beach resort in these territories and made it the official German vacation destination.
So end of Evangelion?
If a part 2 will ever exist, you should cover Hungary and the balkan nations
Agreed
Yea you'd think the invasion of Greece would still happen but it dosent seem that jt did. I mean the invasion of Greece was a pretty big deal at least untill the invasion of the USSR. Hell the reason Germany didint have paratroopers late war was because of the invasion of Crete and sence that didint happen I'm guessing Germany still uses paratroopers. I mean I'd still think the Italians would attempt to invade Greece and would lose almost like in our timeline but hey that's just what I think.
Plus the colonies
Silly, ww3 is part 2
I only like this cause they make good HOI4 games
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"what if no one won ww2"
***the usa wins ww2***
*so does germany*
USA only fights japan so it wasn’t really a world war
@@novelseeker4410 it's fractured and broke. Won't call it a win.
@@harshjain3122 we’re talking about the war here, not about internal politics.
Conveniently forgets about Germany*
Thanks for making this video!
How are you doin'?
@Epic gamerDoing a bit of Trolling
If you ever make a part 2, you must know that there is an official timeline for twr all the way to the modern age
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Honestly, we have a lot of “What if Germany won WW2”... now, “What if no one wins WW2?”, this is... interesting.
But in this, Germany did won too
@@Pilintra military but not politicly also the rest of the axis powers lost and Italy lost half of Albania to Greece after there failed invasion.
@@Demicleas i said Germany. And also Italy didn't lost (by 1952) in this timeline, they control Albania and have Greece as a puppet, bruh
@@Pilintra they do? How did they beat Greece? Must of thought of a different thing then.
@@Demicleas they probably got help from Germany just like otl, most likely after guaranteeing the UK wouldn't interfere
I’d moreso call this: What if Germany and Italy won but Japan lost?
And usa and china
Did.. you say “have a pint” as if the word pint rhymes with pin...?
I would love to see LoganProductions try to explain the lore of the Divergence mod from Victoria 2.
That would just be impossible
"What if nobody won WWII?"
The more I read about world wars, the less I see anybody winning in them. Even US could have peacefully became a superpower due to its economic boom instead of losing several million young men. You can't win total war, you can endure and survive it...
USA didnt even lose half a million men
@@evorbis more than that the US never would’ve gotten so rich and been the dominant superpower. Of course the US won the war.
What, The Allies lost WWII?
@@АлексейТабаков-ы8в UK and France lost the superpower status, their economies were ruined, their empires fell apart.
USSR lost over 20 million people, China lost almost 40 million.
Верни поколение, рождённое в 1923-ем, "победюн"...
The US wouldn’t be as dominant if the other powers didn’t take so much damage from the war.
I would love a part 2 as well as videos like this covering mods and alternate histories
I just want to point out a small mistake at 1:40. Wehrmacht is written with an h because "Wehr" means protect/defend and "Macht" means might/power.
Other than that, great video. :)
Literally armed forces
@@buttholesurfer1266 more like "defence force".
Japanese Defence Forces in a Nutshell
The irony is that Fascist Italy has the greatest chance of survival in this timeline as Japan still got oofed while Germany is imploding
Well, they was kinda doing good before entering the war, so is pretty accurate that without it they are the one's with less problems
@@themajor9059 'doing good' they had a GDP/c of $591 in 1938, while the Reich had 3x that.
@@Poffean bro, that doesn't mean anything, and olso according to my resources the German's GDP one was less than the double of the Italian's one
Printer lore when?
What?
0:40 " *depopulated* "
Can somebody tell why the hell are even the German settlers having a bad time in the Reichkommissariats?
He literally explains it
They basically live in the Middle East but cold
I’ve been waiting for so long.
Its a shame this mod has so many bugs and other problems, it has the potential.
Poplar hoi4 mods vibes are just,
Kaiserreich= what if the 1910’s never ended.
Red flood = what if the 1920’s never ended (kinda)
TWR= what if the 1930’s never ended
TNO = what if the 1940’s never ended
You should make an rpg game. Doesn't matter if it's depressing or not as long as it's interesting
"what if"? no one won. that's the reality. maybe the US.
The war was a decisive allied victory. If you’re taking about the Iron Curtain. Post-War European Ruin and the Nuclear bombs over Japan then I guess but the lines on the map moved and the ideas changed.
What people often don't know is that the Germans were paying for everything with inflation and price controls.
By early 1945 there wasn't anything to buy but everyone had money, so the black market thrived.
By fall of 1945, the German economy would have crashed as workers would have nothing to buy with their pay.
Germany never had a chance without an oil supply.
That led to Stalingrad as the Soviets had 9% of the worlds supply at that time is the northern Caucasins.
Now do the my little pony mod
This is literally just another "what if Germany won WW2". Boring and uninspiring
But erm achtually it’s more “realistic”
This is basically Germany won wwII BUT the after math is realistic.
Even though the allies didn’t attack from the west I still think Germany would probably loose to the Soviet Union.
Yeah. Well, maybe Germany could've invaded Britain, but it could never win against the United States.
Even if they had developed a nuclear bomb, they wouldn't be able to get planes close enough to drop them in the US. The US navy is incredibly strong, and the Atlantic is an incredible barrier.
@@everythingiseconomics9742you under estimate the power of a suicide missions with a shit ton of luck
@autist1949
Even if they did, the Royal Navy would pretty much starve whatever tiny force they managed to paratroop or get across in rickety boats.
unless the western allies were still giving tons of lend lease, no way they would've survived
This makes no sense if the Brit’s surrendered in 1940 they still have there good reserves they weren’t driven into debt by America losing India doesn’t collapse the empire
COME ON PART 2
Actually if the soviets lost in this scenario Stalin need to be alive with each defeat Stalin's Paranoia will increase and purge the best generals of the red army
What if Switzerland and Finland won WWII
in some regards, they, along with Sweden, did. Finland proved itself and reclaimed territory from the Winter War, and Switzerland and Sweden had their economy boosted while their neighbors lost so much.
The only non-war combatant who lost a lot is Spain, due to the flu and the civil war.
They already practically did win WW2 by not participating
Hey could cover also the the mod The New Order: The Last Days of Europe's lore? They have similar premises but they're fairly differently.
He already did th-cam.com/video/bpu3p2XpL9s/w-d-xo.html
i though this was ww1 and i was confused as fuck
This is even bigger larp than TNO
5:51 damn his voice cracked harder than mine 😂
WAAY more realistic than TNO but still unrealistic. About as realistic as Kaiserreich.
Whats wrong with Kaiserreich? :´(
@@tefky7964unrealistic
I love how the Japan music intro is just Jojos.... based
World War Two week by week from #timeghostarmy is the best history ever if you want to watch something cool and nuanced and right about #WW2 #neverforget #wearestrongertogether
Do red flood.
Schizophrenia is fun.
He did
ermm.. ACTUALLY... WW2 started with the invasion of Poland in 1939....
This mod went downhill hard
What happened?
I like this mod cuz it's probably the most realistic scenario for an Axis victory
SS owning south Ukraine is strangely accurate lol( see azov battalion)
Support to Azov
@@Juan-qu4ojsupport to ukrain, but not azov
常凱申？那是蔣介石
idk man this seems like what if germany won ww2
Embrace Jesus Christ
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Lmao this is basically the plotline to Saga of Tanya the Evil.
Saga of Tanya is actually based on world war 1.
OMG best Anime
@@Marylandbrony It's sorta a mix of both WW1 and WW2 elements.
5:02 that is the most butchered way of saying pint ever
the most american way
Gets excited to watch video*
Sees download raid in comments*
Clicks off*
This reminds me of when some nazi tried telling me the third reich would have lasted if they won the war.
How'd that conversation go?
Lmao, nazis continuing their eternal cope at how lame their country actually was
@@olivercheese8706 Yep
@@olivercheese8706 Because winning a 1 on 1 fight is already hard for the underdog, the nazi somehow think that they can pull a miracle out of their asses and win against 3 bigger factions.
We'll never know.
So basically TNO but the ordenstaat is in crimea
that edit of the soviet anthem was SICK
It's a song called soviet techno anthem I think by Dj Stalin
Hey can you do a fallout history video plz?