1. You need to be sore (because it doesn’t measure an effective work out) 2. Bosu ball squats (it isn’t functional, just unsafe) 3. Let’s spot reduce fat (it isn’t possible) 4. Box jumps for cardio (explosive move moves don’t burn more calories) 5. Lifting heavy weights make women bulky (it helps them get leaner and boost metabolism) 6. No pain no gain (don’t push through pain that could mean injury) 7. Gets mad for asking questions (they are responsible for walking you through why they are Mekong you do things)
Appreciate your video so many thanks - one issue I have is that an unstable environment is a progression for folks that need a little more core and overall body stabilization - it doesnt and should never lead to injury (that just means the trainer doesn't know his/her stuff. If a PT puts a client on a Bosu it should be as a progression to address a deficiency - (but only if the client is at the point to be able to deal with the increase of stress) - I've been in this industry for 35 years or so - and now focus on the senior population - guess what - balance is huge - let's do what we can to assist seniors have better balance. It's baby steps, but as you age, balance is very important. Lets not discount that. A little goes a long way. Unstable has it's place - but the PT has to know what the limitations and expectations are for each individual. That's why we are the pros.
Balancing on an unstable surface forces your body to fire muscles that help you stabilize (common sense right). These muscles are not usually strengthened on a stable surface since they are unneeded and unused. By firing stabilizing muscles and then strengthening them with weight you are strengthening those muscles that help you stabilize.
It even says on the bottom of the BOSU...”standing on platform not recommended”. If you want to work stabilizers then choose an exercise that targets those specific muscles. Integrated exercises like squats are for training systems of muscles, not “stabilizers.”
Good info, Jordan. It's hard putting things out on social media because there will no doubt be people who disagree and argue with you. Being a personal trainer myself, I agree with 99% of what you said in this video, but what I don't agree with I'm not going share publicly. I enjoy your content. Thank you!
Both excellent points, aches and soreness can be pushed through, however people should be taught there are pains you SHOULD NOT be feeling or push through. Anything sharp, shocking, stinging, stabbing or searing pain is an indication something is being done incorrectly and should stop the current position.
Jordan, I have to say that I strongly disagree with you about the Bosu Ball. I am a CSCS with a MS in Strength and Conditioning. I've worked at every level from high school aged kids to pro athletes and I can tell you that training on an unstable surface is very beneficial. I do agree with you that it is not for "functional" strength and shouldn't be used that way, but it is used to excite the nervous system and create a demand proprioceptively while also training kinesthetic awareness. It is not used to get stronger, but as a way to enhance the messaging between the brain and body and how it carries out a task.... So before you start telling trainers they are bad for integrating this into their system, maybe you should spend more time asking them why they use it in their training. Also, box jumps train fast twitch muscle fibers, they also train the tendon, and fast twitch fibers increase in hypertrophy faster than slow twitch. More muscle mass means a raise in Basal Metabolic Response so metabolism increases which would help that client get the result they want. Want you have to know as a professional is the volume at which they perform and if they are cleared to do so... Know you science bro!
I think with regards to Box jumps he means fast paced-high volume jumps can cause fatigue which leads to bad form and then injury. The definitely have their place in a program to train fast twitch fibres and the focus should be on explosion Vs. super high volume. Jordan's audience is targeted to the general population so will differ slightly to athletes. Great input though!
Box jumps - my youngest daughter tore her ACL in high school PE class because of an idiot "coach" telling them to do them with no reason and no instruction. My son in law caught the front of his shoe on a jump, fell backwards, and broke both arms at once. Box jumps are banned in my family for the next 20 generations.
Working in the physical therapy world on an airforce base..the Physical Therapist I worked for often used the bosu for improved knee, ankle and hip stability, and improved core strength. No one ever got injured using it but did get results.
Jordan - I couldn't agree more with you on the BOSU squat issue. It chaps me every time I see people standing on the wrong freaking side of the tool. It even says on the BOSU don't stand on this side! I think functional fitness is awesome but as Linda Shelton says, if you can't determine the functional purpose for a movement you shouldn't be using it at all, whether you're teaching hi/lo aerobics or HIIT - the movements actually matter. Anyway...great tools and resources on your channel for us fitpros and the clients we work with as well. Thank you. -MAV
I had a personal trainer who was a jerk and when i told him i was done with him he told me "When you've gained more weight and are a diabetic i dont want to see you in here crying to me that this was the biggest mistake you've made" I laughed at him and walked out
R.B. Nope. That is a stable surface. It’s flat, solid ground. The surface is stable, you become unstable because of your movement. The BOSU ball on the other hand is unstable while you remain still. It’s the exact opposite.
Can't disagree with your assessment except for the implicit assumption that because they're the "exact opposite" that there is no transferal of ability. Both times a force is jerking you in different directions. I find it hard to believe that being good at keep balance while something is messing with you in one situation won't transfer to another. If you can walk a tightrope there are very few unstable situations you won't be able to deal with better than someone who can't.
R.B. There is plenty of research showing exactly what you have trouble believing. Balancing on an unstable surface does not transfer to a stable surface. Getting stronger on a stable surface transfers to balance better than anything. Numerous studies showing that.
Nah man that's not what I said, I said if you can deal with one unbalanced surface you can better deal with other unbalanced surfaces. And I absolutely think it carries over well to sports that require good balance. I'm not suggesting the best way to increase your squat 1RM is to train on a Bosu ball, I'm saying balance is a real goal that can really help performance in other athletic areas and there are real goals outside of getting stronger at the classic lifts. So I guess if none of your clients play real sports this is irrelevant but probably some of them are interested in anything that transfers well to sports performance.
@@r.b.4611 I agree with you completely, that was the only thing that I disagreed with him on. If what he says is true then why do, like you said, athletes and their trainers train on unstable surfaces? You would think that someone at that level of training would know about these studies he is talking about, and wouldn't bother putting their professional athletes through something that has the potential to dampen their career. I have first hand seen the improvement in my clients balance by taking them from a stable surface balance to an unstable surface for a type of "progressive overload" and then back again. And this was after more than one session of trying to get them to get the balance down on a stable surface. I still agree with the rest of your points here Jordan and I think you did a great job explaining them!!!
Actually, I thoroughly enjoyed doing bosu ball squats while deployed at sea. Actually balancing and compensating for the degrees of boat listing was bananas
He has good points there, i agree with all of them. As a fitness trainer, masseuse and sports science uni student all I see pt’s talking nonsense things, they aren’t really familiar with anatomy and some of them even try to do things they don’t have the knowledge of. It’s a really responsible profession, people can get hurt, crippled...highlighting the fact when a pt is in charge, people might take precaution out of sight because they feel safe, protected from injuries. Other big mistake might be ignoring so many other physical activity when thinking about exercise...
great video man. Im a personal trainer and I do not tell my clients any of these things :) All though I do agree with Patrick Langston's comment below about balance. When you train someone with a balance exercise it should be done in a way where the client can do it safely. such as next to a wall or something they can grab onto. i would never have someone do a squat on a bosu ball without something near them to grab on to and without me being right next to them on the other side to reach my hand out if they need to grab onto it.
My worst fear would be training an angry tired mum at the end of her day that wants a quick session in that's the worst client to have, if they wanna vent their anger out on you then you can refuse service to them. Personal trainers arnt therapists, leave your problems at the door.
Jason Wunderlin he’s right tho. That has nothing to do with “attitude” your job isn’t to listen to their problems and give them advice on why their spouse is cheating on them or why they feel depressed. Read his comment again. You are a personal trainer NOT a therapist. If that’s the case then they’re gonna have to pay you extra if you have to listen to their BS.
Bosu ball can be contradicted. One you’re working on an unstable surface so you’re working several more muscle groups and improving the stability of your hips and core which you need later on in life when you get older and to help you to progress in your protocol to more intense and difficult movements to help burn body fat and burn weight off
I have a personal trainer Who's training me for the army Now i understand that I need to get in shape and get that absolute resistance And hey don't get me wrong I like working out intensively But he kinda makes me feel like this is an absolute mission For example: 1. I've been training over a month,not even a dent into my resistance training but still going strong Con is: he kinda overdoes it sometimes for example,today he told me that I basically quit because I stopped many many times during jogging Now i only stop about 3 times, and suddenly I'm considered as a quitter......it's a long ass track dude I'm not physically ready to go a whole lap without stopping,I've built resistance tho 2. He doesn't tell me when to continue and stop sometimes Today he was telling me a story about s person he met in the army And i was listening After he finishes the story he says "well anyway,i don't see you running" Idk if that's for shits and giggles but it confuses me man,like tell me when 3. I need to get my health checked and see a doctor cuz i have been losing breath when it comes to jogging,even tho that's normal i sound like a thirsty hyena..... 4. This is the beginning of my training,it's been a month already And I've improved greatly But I'm nowhere near as close to being physically prepared for AIT in the army This is why I'm pre-training And hey my personal trainer isn't all bad He does crack a couple jokes,teaches me the position of attention stance,the left face right face and about face position as well Tells me great advice It's just i don't understand why he's kinda hard on me For example We were jogging to a cadence today me and him close to close, and he told me to keep it easy relax and jog at my Pace meanwhile I did keep up to his Pace but after a while it's like this guy was sprinting through and through and it was kind of hard to keep up to him and in my head I was like come on man geez, and as I was doing it I was also singing the cadence of "hard work work" now don't get me wrong it was pretty fun but after a while I kind of collapsed and that wasn't very normal and I fell to my knees at one point cuz I couldn't keep going, now here's the thing about me I may throw myself down be put down I might fall I might get pushed, I even might get tumbled, but one things for sure I keep on going no matter what and I tumbled about two times during that whole thing, but to him that seemed like I was quitting that's why he called me a quitter today he says I saw a quitter today and I understand he's trying to boost my morale but if anything I think he's just putting it down and hey I'm not necessarily sensitive either cuz I know when to take a punch or two from a mouth, even though I did tumble about two times today, I saw progress because I sang a cadence and I was running and my book that was good of course I will have to improve later on and I will, but I hate how he told me I was a quitter I'm not a quitter like I mentioned I might fall, get pushed down, trip, tumble, but I'll always keep moving forward no matter what
Very informative. Thankfully, I don't do these things even though I did make them do bosu ball squats at some point. I'm still a good trainer, right? 😄
Bosu ball is great for strenghtening the ankle joint without causing accidental shin splints, or periosteum inflammation in untrained or heavier individuals. Some female participants also want a more stable ankle joint without increasing the size of the calf or the tibialis muscles. Also great for circus training, if you happen to be a clown.
I witness this first hand working in a gym, I have seen the personal trainers getting their clients to do all this fancy shit on the BOSU balls. the 'no pain no gain' is a valid point I see PT's telling this sort of thing to clients, yet I look at the client and their form is breaking down, whilst the PT is saying 'one more' 'dont give up'. Some PT's seem to think EVERY set needs to be an all out 'as many reps as humanly possible' assault into oblivion, despite it being clear to see the clients form is getting worse and worse. another thing I've seen is PT's getting their clients (who are not in need of advanced methods) to do a lot of advanced weight lifting methods such as drop sets, giant sets, tri sets, all that stuff that makes the client think 'wow Ive had a great workout' and then the whole soreness myth ties in to this. Yet I see some of these clients making little progress in some cases, months and years.
and the whole soreness myth really bugs me common scenario is a customer who has had some time off the gym 'I'm feeling really sore as it is my first week back in a while' 'if you're sore then you know its working' lol that one does annoy me
My personal trainer was a perfectionist. And it made my perfectionism worse. I can't even get to the gym anymore because it is a waste if I don't commit to 5 days a week 2 hours a day with a strict diet plan. And the second I make one bad meal choice or skipped the gym I would feel like a failure and give up entirely. My personal trainer made that mentality in me worse. I haven't been to the gym in 3 years now because of the mental health and I gained the 50lbs of fat back I had origonally lost. And my depression is back.
I am a pt and I don't tell my clients about spot reduction of fat but rather simple, healthy, and sustainable ways to lower calories and burn more. I would say that soreness generally is good because you have to train intense for muscle growth and soreness is a byproduct of effective workouts. Generally harder (and therefore better for muscle growth) workouts lead to soreness. Being sore means you trained intense which you need to do to grow. It generally us good but it isn't the be all end all when it comes to any progress. A light and easy workout that is not intense will not be as effective for building muscle as a more intense workout that is better for building muscle. To build muscle you need to push the limits of what your body can handle so that it is forced to adapt to a new workload and will more likely lead to soreness than an easy light workout that does not push tye limit of what you can handle
It’s plenty of info out there for upcoming trainers. Do research on the Internet & get info from Dr’s and therapist, Go to the library or take a course to get CEUs. Don’t listen to people on TH-cam. They will only confuse you because they are speaking from their personal preferences or experiences. Doesn’t mean that it’s right or wrong, but as a professional. Gain your own knowledge and create your own style of training.
Hi Jordan like the comment about the bosu ball, could save people a lot of pain from broken bones. I would love if you could do another video on other things they should not do. I went through 4 and am very low now as I have bad osteoporosis and they won't work with me. Sign no 1. Diet plan causes an increase in fat inches(lost a stone and got bigger) doesn't increase muscle over time. No2 drop in metabolism. No 3. They put you on the long finger saying they will call-email and not follow through with it. N04. They refuse to schedule subsequent meetings or are working with another client when you have scheduled to meet them. N0 5 The advice leads to loss of strength and energy. I have severe fatigue that affects my ability to even walk around. I went to another trainer and doubled my body fat. I found out too late. The loss of confidence has been quite devastating and I am trying to go it alone. It is a shame as I needed guidance. My bones are at risk and I have to hope I figure out what caused the muscle loss before this worsens. You seem nice wish there were more like you.
The bosu ball can help for people who do sports such as tricking and stuff but it also helps maintain balance control and I agree with the everyday life but it’s more of a mind exercise to me than trying to lose weight
Question. I have a client that the second he feels that onset of lactic acid he drops the weights. I understand the burn can suck but theres also progress. How would you word it to make him push through???
You reference a book toward the end of your video about 101 metabolic workouts. That web address isn't working for me. Can you post a link to it if it still exists?
I agree, balancing is very important. Why not just balance on the ground? Most people have trouble balancing on the floor, nevermind on a wobbly surface.
This video is so strange and negative! The bosu ball comment is ridiculous! Challenging someone to develop skills beyond the conventional basic exercise is a sign of a good PT and their knowledge of varied workouts. Plus Dude, have you never been on a bus or a train before?, those are incredibly unstable surfaces. My PT gave me bosu ball within the first 2weeks - since then I no longer wobble around while standing on a moving bus
Nope. I never said that, nor insinuated it. I said doing weighted exercises on a wobbly surface doesn't improve "functional" strength and is more dangerous than effective.
I'm really surprised that ANY personal trainer would tell a female client that doing strength training will make her bulk up like a man. That's simply not true, because women aren't designed to bulk up that way due to the fact that their bodies don't produce nearly the same amount of testosterone that men's bodies do, and testosterone is the hormone that governs muscle development and growth. And on a related note, who even says "no pain, no gain" anymore? I thought that mindset went out the window a couple of decades ago!
1 thing your personal trainer should never say or do - Over-generalise. Be very careful because good arguments could be made against a handful of your points, but people watching this can't appreciate that. I do agree with most things you said, it's good information! I disagree about box jumps. Performing repeated bouts of 90+% intensity concentric movements is basically unrivaled for increasing pulse in non-cardio exercise, leading to a net higher calorie burn. It is also a valuable tool for teaching mechanics of jumping, and landing softly. Of course there are considerations; age and ability of client, box height, reps (likely under 20 or so) - but everything has a place with considerations, they are all just tools, but principles never fail. I also agree that unstable surfaces are of course over-prescribed, especially very unstable surfaces. They occasionally have a place in rehab (ankles, knees, hips etc). "when do you find an unstable surface in life" - Surfing, skateboarding, wakeboarding, sailing, etc. Does that mean I would use a bosu ball? Probably not, but it depends. Does it mean I wouldn't use a bosu ball? Probably not, but it depends.
With something like the BOSU ball, it depends on the person. I personally use that a lot since I trail run and it helps me to prevent injury. It’s concerning though that someone might see this and think they shouldn’t ever go with a trainer that provides these exercises. These are all tools that can help people; providing they are used correctly.
What do you mean by over generalizing? Because I had this moment with my personal trainer and he said that I over analyze things. I was just telling him that I have to be conscious about my back while doing deadlift but he said that instead.
This guy doesn't seem to understand the concept and function of balance training to strenghten the core and biomechanics of the body. Doing squats with both feet on a flat surface doesn"t improve your balance. If your new client who never worked out before isn't feeling a little sore after training, then they might not been doing enough. It might be good to explain the difference in expecting to be sore conpared to being in pain to know if you are working out too hard or not.
I just subbed to your channel man. I'm approaching my CPT exam and a career in personal training. This is exactly the kind of stuff I need to hear about man. I'm taking the NASM courses, and it is good for the nuts/bolts of it. However, I feel like you need to have your own stances on issues like this. Which can only come from experience and advice from actual trainers.
The squats on an unstable surface aren't for walking on unstable surfaces. *sigh* It's to help clients get the movement down along with improve balance. You lost me after that one.
What makes no sense he says dont measure a workout by soreness. I always do makes sense to me. You can have 5 guys who lift the same and will naturally have different shaped muscles. I know guys lighter then me just as strong and not as bulky ...it all depends on makeup so for appearance I wouldn't guarantee them to things you can provide... plus working out different muscles prepares yourself for your bodies imbalance... after all you have more muscles then your arms and chest and legs . Dudes not educated
Its been proven that muscel soreness or more specifically, delayed on set muscel soreness, does mean that your workout was better than a workout with no soreness
Can you share the paper please? I always thought that muscle soreness was a result of inflammation and not as a result of increased protein synthesis. But really interested if new research has shown different?
Brett Freeman i dont personally know the paper, Jeff nippard the youtuber has talked about it many times though. If i find a specific video that he talks about it i will link it
@@jordansyatt I am not speaking only for the reverse bosu exercise that you showed. I am speaking generally for the exercises that take place on unstable surfaces like standing on a bosu with one leg trying to balance let's say for ankle sprain rehabilitation...
Perfect, then if you listen to what I say you’ll hear I didn’t say nor insinuate proprioceptive training is bullshit. I said that one specific exercise for the purpose of gaining strength is not worth the risk:reward as other exercises with the same goal. That’s it.
Progress and effectiveness are two different things in the perspective of the fitness industry; I don’t know how you can compare the two against each other and then come up with the silly conclusion that two non-comparable things are a sole indicator that a personal trainer is bad. You kind of discredited yourself there, furthermore the background noise and chaotic scenery are a bit too distracting please don’t attempt to draw a bad name to people based on a single simple minded ‘hook’ of an introduction.
I might also add that you said soreness “doesn’t mean anything other than you are sore.” Sounds a bit redundant and almost backwards. There’s a lot more biologically that goes into muscles soreness and its effects on the muscles and surrounding structures.
Thank you, man! Duly noted to work on my vocal inflections during opening statements so as to increase the seriousness of which you receive my content further. Blesses
This guys information is very suspect. 1: Bosu balls are fantastic for stability training. 2: Box Jumps are a fantastic Cardiovascular exercise. You're literally jumping up and down. It's a basic human function. Only obese people shouldn't be jumping, if you are chubby find a box, and jump on it. You'll only get injuries if your box is too high for you.
First two 100% wrong. What about tide millions of people that work on boats? Lol Spot reduction is NOT a myth. Let’s use triceps as the example as you did. If someone changed nothing about their nutrition or training EXCEPT instead of hitting triceps 1x per week they hit triceps 3x per week, you WILL reduce body fat as you build muscle there. Spot reduction is absolutely possible, I’ve done it, I’ve had hundreds and hundreds of clients do it. If you target one specific area above others you can spit reduce, it’s an absolute fact. And it’s not bro science, it’s a physiological fact.
Sincerest apologies, Dear, William. I wish I could give you those cherished, like, 2 minutes back. But, alas, I can't. Hopefully you'll be more scrutinous of how you spend your time going forward. Wouldn't want you wasting anymore of your, like, 2 minutes' on the likes of me.
@@jordansyatt i don't accept your apology. And, i will definitely be a bit more cautious with my time. You should put some better effort on the videos you post.
@@marietrini7784 well the best thing we thing we can all take from this would be, that i don't care about your opinion. Pay my bills and make me a sandwich after you put my phone on the charger and maybe I'll value your point a bit. Otherwise shut up
1. You need to be sore (because it doesn’t measure an effective work out)
2. Bosu ball squats (it isn’t functional, just unsafe)
3. Let’s spot reduce fat (it isn’t possible)
4. Box jumps for cardio (explosive move moves don’t burn more calories)
5. Lifting heavy weights make women bulky (it helps them get leaner and boost metabolism)
6. No pain no gain (don’t push through pain that could mean injury)
7. Gets mad for asking questions (they are responsible for walking you through why they are Mekong you do things)
Appreciate your video so many thanks - one issue I have is that an unstable environment is a progression for folks that need a little more core and overall body stabilization - it doesnt and should never lead to injury (that just means the trainer doesn't know his/her stuff. If a PT puts a client on a Bosu it should be as a progression to address a deficiency - (but only if the client is at the point to be able to deal with the increase of stress) - I've been in this industry for 35 years or so - and now focus on the senior population - guess what - balance is huge - let's do what we can to assist seniors have better balance. It's baby steps, but as you age, balance is very important. Lets not discount that. A little goes a long way. Unstable has it's place - but the PT has to know what the limitations and expectations are for each individual. That's why we are the pros.
I couldn't have said it better.
Ha
My purse weighs 20 pounds..haha. BOSU ball is good training for those drunken nights when you’re walking in 5 inch heels :)
Balancing on an unstable surface forces your body to fire muscles that help you stabilize (common sense right). These muscles are not usually strengthened on a stable surface since they are unneeded and unused. By firing stabilizing muscles and then strengthening them with weight you are strengthening those muscles that help you stabilize.
agree with you 100%. this was the only thing i disagreed with him about in this video.
"You gotta fire them stabilizing muscles" lol
It even says on the bottom of the BOSU...”standing on platform not recommended”. If you want to work stabilizers then choose an exercise that targets those specific muscles. Integrated exercises like squats are for training systems of muscles, not “stabilizers.”
For beginner lifters and those starting a training regimen have no need for Bosu balls. Fundamentals, Mind to muscle connection and then load it up.
Tightrope anyone? Slackline?
Good info, Jordan. It's hard putting things out on social media because there will no doubt be people who disagree and argue with you. Being a personal trainer myself, I agree with 99% of what you said in this video, but what I don't agree with I'm not going share publicly. I enjoy your content. Thank you!
I agree with all of them except the no pain no gain. When people say this they mean pain as in pushing yourself out of your comfort zone.
No because it can be interpreted in different ways.But we don't want to overdo it!
newbs will definitely interpret this incorrectly
Both excellent points, aches and soreness can be pushed through, however people should be taught there are pains you SHOULD NOT be feeling or push through. Anything sharp, shocking, stinging, stabbing or searing pain is an indication something is being done incorrectly and should stop the current position.
Jordan, I have to say that I strongly disagree with you about the Bosu Ball. I am a CSCS with a MS in Strength and Conditioning. I've worked at every level from high school aged kids to pro athletes and I can tell you that training on an unstable surface is very beneficial. I do agree with you that it is not for "functional" strength and shouldn't be used that way, but it is used to excite the nervous system and create a demand proprioceptively while also training kinesthetic awareness. It is not used to get stronger, but as a way to enhance the messaging between the brain and body and how it carries out a task.... So before you start telling trainers they are bad for integrating this into their system, maybe you should spend more time asking them why they use it in their training.
Also, box jumps train fast twitch muscle fibers, they also train the tendon, and fast twitch fibers increase in hypertrophy faster than slow twitch. More muscle mass means a raise in Basal Metabolic Response so metabolism increases which would help that client get the result they want. Want you have to know as a professional is the volume at which they perform and if they are cleared to do so... Know you science bro!
I think with regards to Box jumps he means fast paced-high volume jumps can cause fatigue which leads to bad form and then injury. The definitely have their place in a program to train fast twitch fibres and the focus should be on explosion Vs. super high volume.
Jordan's audience is targeted to the general population so will differ slightly to athletes.
Great input though!
Agree...its mostly a fad and just not worth the risk..be ok for surfers I guess..
Box jumps - my youngest daughter tore her ACL in high school PE class because of an idiot "coach" telling them to do them with no reason and no instruction. My son in law caught the front of his shoe on a jump, fell backwards, and broke both arms at once. Box jumps are banned in my family for the next 20 generations.
As a personal trainer, I loved this video! Thank you sir!
Working in the physical therapy world on an airforce base..the Physical Therapist I worked for often used the bosu for improved knee, ankle and hip stability, and improved core strength. No one ever got injured using it but did get results.
I agree, but people do dumb circus tricks with them in the gym sometimes. Like doing 50lb barbell back squats on a bosu 😭🏋️♀️ my poor nerves.
Jordan - I couldn't agree more with you on the BOSU squat issue. It chaps me every time I see people standing on the wrong freaking side of the tool. It even says on the BOSU don't stand on this side! I think functional fitness is awesome but as Linda Shelton says, if you can't determine the functional purpose for a movement you shouldn't be using it at all, whether you're teaching hi/lo aerobics or HIIT - the movements actually matter. Anyway...great tools and resources on your channel for us fitpros and the clients we work with as well. Thank you. -MAV
I had a personal trainer who was a jerk and when i told him i was done with him he told me "When you've gained more weight and are a diabetic i dont want to see you in here crying to me that this was the biggest mistake you've made" I laughed at him and walked out
I feel you
What did he do that made you think he was a jerk?
His personality just sucked and whenI didn't sign up for more training sessions with him he got upset with me and said the above things.
@@kristalena94 I see, thanks for taking the time to respond to my question.
Real life example of unstable surface: When public transport like a train or bus accelerates/decelerates and you are standing.
R.B. Nope. That is a stable surface. It’s flat, solid ground. The surface is stable, you become unstable because of your movement. The BOSU ball on the other hand is unstable while you remain still. It’s the exact opposite.
Can't disagree with your assessment except for the implicit assumption that because they're the "exact opposite" that there is no transferal of ability. Both times a force is jerking you in different directions. I find it hard to believe that being good at keep balance while something is messing with you in one situation won't transfer to another. If you can walk a tightrope there are very few unstable situations you won't be able to deal with better than someone who can't.
R.B. There is plenty of research showing exactly what you have trouble believing. Balancing on an unstable surface does not transfer to a stable surface. Getting stronger on a stable surface transfers to balance better than anything. Numerous studies showing that.
Nah man that's not what I said, I said if you can deal with one unbalanced surface you can better deal with other unbalanced surfaces. And I absolutely think it carries over well to sports that require good balance. I'm not suggesting the best way to increase your squat 1RM is to train on a Bosu ball, I'm saying balance is a real goal that can really help performance in other athletic areas and there are real goals outside of getting stronger at the classic lifts.
So I guess if none of your clients play real sports this is irrelevant but probably some of them are interested in anything that transfers well to sports performance.
@@r.b.4611 I agree with you completely, that was the only thing that I disagreed with him on. If what he says is true then why do, like you said, athletes and their trainers train on unstable surfaces? You would think that someone at that level of training would know about these studies he is talking about, and wouldn't bother putting their professional athletes through something that has the potential to dampen their career.
I have first hand seen the improvement in my clients balance by taking them from a stable surface balance to an unstable surface for a type of "progressive overload" and then back again. And this was after more than one session of trying to get them to get the balance down on a stable surface.
I still agree with the rest of your points here Jordan and I think you did a great job explaining them!!!
Great tips, thanks for sharing. God bless
I dissagree with your idea on proprioceptivly chalenging environments not having a place in training.
Excellent information, thanks so much for sharing. God bless
Plank on unstable ball is much harder on abs
You are absolutely right in everything you said!! Thank you .
Thank you so much :)
Actually, I thoroughly enjoyed doing bosu ball squats while deployed at sea. Actually balancing and compensating for the degrees of boat listing was bananas
He has good points there, i agree with all of them. As a fitness trainer, masseuse and sports science uni student all I see pt’s talking nonsense things, they aren’t really familiar with anatomy and some of them even try to do things they don’t have the knowledge of. It’s a really responsible profession, people can get hurt, crippled...highlighting the fact when a pt is in charge, people might take precaution out of sight because they feel safe, protected from injuries. Other big mistake might be ignoring so many other physical activity when thinking about exercise...
I like your approach here so i subscribed
great video man. Im a personal trainer and I do not tell my clients any of these things :) All though I do agree with Patrick Langston's comment below about balance. When you train someone with a balance exercise it should be done in a way where the client can do it safely. such as next to a wall or something they can grab onto. i would never have someone do a squat on a bosu ball without something near them to grab on to and without me being right next to them on the other side to reach my hand out if they need to grab onto it.
My worst fear would be training an angry tired mum at the end of her day that wants a quick session in that's the worst client to have, if they wanna vent their anger out on you then you can refuse service to them. Personal trainers arnt therapists, leave your problems at the door.
Optic500 get a new profession then. You won't be as successful as you want with that attitude.
Jason Wunderlin he’s right tho. That has nothing to do with “attitude” your job isn’t to listen to their problems and give them advice on why their spouse is cheating on them or why they feel depressed. Read his comment again. You are a personal trainer NOT a therapist. If that’s the case then they’re gonna have to pay you extra if you have to listen to their BS.
Sounds to me that someone is salty as well...
Bosu ball can be contradicted. One you’re working on an unstable surface so you’re working several more muscle groups and improving the stability of your hips and core which you need later on in life when you get older and to help you to progress in your protocol to more intense and difficult movements to help burn body fat and burn weight off
Boss ball is good for snowboarding, surfing, skateboarding...
That seems “functional”
Are you making your snowboard session on some special airsnow? :D
That’s what I was thinking too.
Such a great video. So many good messages.
I have a personal trainer
Who's training me for the army
Now i understand that I need to get in shape and get that absolute resistance
And hey don't get me wrong
I like working out intensively
But he kinda makes me feel like this is an absolute mission
For example:
1. I've been training over a month,not even a dent into my resistance training but still going strong
Con is: he kinda overdoes it sometimes for example,today he told me that I basically quit because I stopped many many times during jogging
Now i only stop about 3 times, and suddenly I'm considered as a quitter......it's a long ass track dude I'm not physically ready to go a whole lap without stopping,I've built resistance tho
2. He doesn't tell me when to continue and stop sometimes
Today he was telling me a story about s person he met in the army
And i was listening
After he finishes the story he says "well anyway,i don't see you running"
Idk if that's for shits and giggles but it confuses me man,like tell me when
3. I need to get my health checked and see a doctor cuz i have been losing breath when it comes to jogging,even tho that's normal i sound like a thirsty hyena.....
4. This is the beginning of my training,it's been a month already
And I've improved greatly
But I'm nowhere near as close to being physically prepared for AIT in the army
This is why I'm pre-training
And hey my personal trainer isn't all bad
He does crack a couple jokes,teaches me the position of attention stance,the left face right face and about face position as well
Tells me great advice
It's just i don't understand why he's kinda hard on me
For example
We were jogging to a cadence today me and him close to close, and he told me to keep it easy relax and jog at my Pace meanwhile I did keep up to his Pace but after a while it's like this guy was sprinting through and through and it was kind of hard to keep up to him and in my head I was like come on man geez, and as I was doing it I was also singing the cadence of "hard work work" now don't get me wrong it was pretty fun but after a while I kind of collapsed and that wasn't very normal and I fell to my knees at one point cuz I couldn't keep going, now here's the thing about me I may throw myself down be put down I might fall I might get pushed, I even might get tumbled, but one things for sure I keep on going no matter what and I tumbled about two times during that whole thing, but to him that seemed like I was quitting that's why he called me a quitter today he says I saw a quitter today and I understand he's trying to boost my morale but if anything I think he's just putting it down and hey I'm not necessarily sensitive either cuz I know when to take a punch or two from a mouth,
even though I did tumble about two times today, I saw progress because I sang a cadence and I was running and my book that was good of course I will have to improve later on and I will, but I hate how he told me I was a quitter I'm not a quitter like I mentioned I might fall, get pushed down, trip, tumble, but I'll always keep moving forward no matter what
Jordan great video and loved the blooper reel.
Good stuff! Love this!
Very informative. Thankfully, I don't do these things even though I did make them do bosu ball squats at some point. I'm still a good trainer, right? 😄
Bosu ball is great for strenghtening the ankle joint without causing accidental shin splints, or periosteum inflammation in untrained or heavier individuals. Some female participants also want a more stable ankle joint without increasing the size of the calf or the tibialis muscles.
Also great for circus training, if you happen to be a clown.
I witness this first hand working in a gym, I have seen the personal trainers getting their clients to do all this fancy shit on the BOSU balls.
the 'no pain no gain' is a valid point I see PT's telling this sort of thing to clients, yet I look at the client and their form is breaking down, whilst the PT is saying 'one more' 'dont give up'. Some PT's seem to think EVERY set needs to be an all out 'as many reps as humanly possible' assault into oblivion, despite it being clear to see the clients form is getting worse and worse.
another thing I've seen is PT's getting their clients (who are not in need of advanced methods) to do a lot of advanced weight lifting methods such as drop sets, giant sets, tri sets, all that stuff that makes the client think 'wow Ive had a great workout' and then the whole soreness myth ties in to this. Yet I see some of these clients making little progress in some cases, months and years.
and the whole soreness myth really bugs me
common scenario is a customer who has had some time off the gym
'I'm feeling really sore as it is my first week back in a while'
'if you're sore then you know its working'
lol that one does annoy me
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Do u mean injury pain, or just the normal pain during the exercise in certain parts of your body?
My personal trainer was a perfectionist. And it made my perfectionism worse. I can't even get to the gym anymore because it is a waste if I don't commit to 5 days a week 2 hours a day with a strict diet plan.
And the second I make one bad meal choice or skipped the gym I would feel like a failure and give up entirely.
My personal trainer made that mentality in me worse. I haven't been to the gym in 3 years now because of the mental health and I gained the 50lbs of fat back I had origonally lost. And my depression is back.
Aww don't be so hard on yourself!This process is going to take a while.It'll take even longer if you do it incorrectly.
I know exactly where this was filmed. Do you or did you train people at that Sports Club behind you?
Muscle soreness is an indication of progress at the beginning of an program. Micro tears occur the muscle swells and one becomes stronger
He's talking about being sore every single workout and using that as an indicator of success.
Sort of but if you're focusing on the level or amount of soreness you shouldn't be stretching after just to slow down recovery
Indeed, good video! Every single one of these points was a really bad thing to do or say.
You are a real person that I can relate to 👍🏻🙏🕵🏻♀️🌈thank you
Agree with all of these.....and LOVE the bloopers at the end lol!! Very funny!! 😜😂
I am a pt and I don't tell my clients about spot reduction of fat but rather simple, healthy, and sustainable ways to lower calories and burn more. I would say that soreness generally is good because you have to train intense for muscle growth and soreness is a byproduct of effective workouts. Generally harder (and therefore better for muscle growth) workouts lead to soreness. Being sore means you trained intense which you need to do to grow. It generally us good but it isn't the be all end all when it comes to any progress. A light and easy workout that is not intense will not be as effective for building muscle as a more intense workout that is better for building muscle. To build muscle you need to push the limits of what your body can handle so that it is forced to adapt to a new workload and will more likely lead to soreness than an easy light workout that does not push tye limit of what you can handle
I’m just starting out as a PT. Any advice?
@@brewhaha515 plan ahead, keep it simple, and get to know the client well before you start.
@@cameronhuard7624 I think I understand what you’re saying. Thnx
It’s plenty of info out there for upcoming trainers. Do research on the Internet & get info from Dr’s and therapist, Go to the library or take a course to get CEUs. Don’t listen to people on TH-cam. They will only confuse you because they are speaking from their personal preferences or experiences. Doesn’t mean that it’s right or wrong, but as a professional. Gain your own knowledge and create your own style of training.
My Financial situation is unstable like like that Buso ball... so get me on some functional training haha
The busu ball squats are good for people who do certain sports eg mtb or trials
Hi Jordan like the comment about the bosu ball, could save people a lot of pain from broken bones. I would love if you could do another video on other things they should not do. I went through 4 and am very low now as I have bad osteoporosis and they won't work with me. Sign no 1. Diet plan causes an increase in fat inches(lost a stone and got bigger) doesn't increase muscle over time. No2 drop in metabolism. No 3. They put you on the long finger saying they will call-email and not follow through with it. N04. They refuse to schedule subsequent meetings or are working with another client when you have scheduled to meet them. N0 5 The advice leads to loss of strength and energy. I have severe fatigue that affects my ability to even walk around. I went to another trainer and doubled my body fat. I found out too late. The loss of confidence has been quite devastating and I am trying to go it alone. It is a shame as I needed guidance. My bones are at risk and I have to hope I figure out what caused the muscle loss before this worsens. You seem nice wish there were more like you.
As a person who just hired the wrong CPT this was a great video on why I just fired his ass. Especially the asking questions part
Good points. You are right
What is the music from? It sounds awesome.
The bosu ball can help for people who do sports such as tricking and stuff but it also helps maintain balance control and I agree with the everyday life but it’s more of a mind exercise to me than trying to lose weight
But it does keep tension on the muscles a bit and yes it is dangerous so I don’t have clients do it only I do it
Also if you can master self balance your stable ground strength game will be stronger but they’re better exercises for that
Question. I have a client that the second he feels that onset of lactic acid he drops the weights. I understand the burn can suck but theres also progress. How would you word it to make him push through???
Give him some baking powder
Jordan you are awesome and hilarious!
WannaBeTechieMom thank you!
You reference a book toward the end of your video about 101 metabolic workouts. That web address isn't working for me. Can you post a link to it if it still exists?
hey :) www.101metabolicworkouts.com
To me, balancing is important for everybody.. Not just athlete but normal people too.. Balancing can develop your synergist muscles well
I agree, balancing is very important. Why not just balance on the ground? Most people have trouble balancing on the floor, nevermind on a wobbly surface.
Very true regarding the balancing act haha lol
3 pounds is bs...I lifted 90 when I was 15 and weighed only 100
That's a heavy purse! Remember to wear it on both sides to avoid imbalances.
Ofvorse vompounds are the best,but stability have its place in training,eaven sead it's owerated.
RIP English
Yer second point is wrong. Propriotively enriched environments increase stabilization.
This video is so strange and negative! The bosu ball comment is ridiculous! Challenging someone to develop skills beyond the conventional basic exercise is a sign of a good PT and their knowledge of varied workouts. Plus Dude, have you never been on a bus or a train before?, those are incredibly unstable surfaces. My PT gave me bosu ball within the first 2weeks - since then I no longer wobble around while standing on a moving bus
So you’re telling me that bosu ball exercises are useless
Nope. I never said that, nor insinuated it. I said doing weighted exercises on a wobbly surface doesn't improve "functional" strength and is more dangerous than effective.
Yup. The last time I did box jumps - I broke my wrist. 😞
#momsthatlift
are you related to lee syatt?
He's my brother :)
I'm really surprised that ANY personal trainer would tell a female client that doing strength training will make her bulk up like a man. That's simply not true, because women aren't designed to bulk up that way due to the fact that their bodies don't produce nearly the same amount of testosterone that men's bodies do, and testosterone is the hormone that governs muscle development and growth. And on a related note, who even says "no pain, no gain" anymore? I thought that mindset went out the window a couple of decades ago!
1 thing your personal trainer should never say or do - Over-generalise. Be very careful because good arguments could be made against a handful of your points, but people watching this can't appreciate that. I do agree with most things you said, it's good information!
I disagree about box jumps. Performing repeated bouts of 90+% intensity concentric movements is basically unrivaled for increasing pulse in non-cardio exercise, leading to a net higher calorie burn. It is also a valuable tool for teaching mechanics of jumping, and landing softly. Of course there are considerations; age and ability of client, box height, reps (likely under 20 or so) - but everything has a place with considerations, they are all just tools, but principles never fail.
I also agree that unstable surfaces are of course over-prescribed, especially very unstable surfaces. They occasionally have a place in rehab (ankles, knees, hips etc).
"when do you find an unstable surface in life" - Surfing, skateboarding, wakeboarding, sailing, etc. Does that mean I would use a bosu ball? Probably not, but it depends. Does it mean I wouldn't use a bosu ball? Probably not, but it depends.
With something like the BOSU ball, it depends on the person. I personally use that a lot since I trail run and it helps me to prevent injury. It’s concerning though that someone might see this and think they shouldn’t ever go with a trainer that provides these exercises. These are all tools that can help people; providing they are used correctly.
What do you mean by over generalizing? Because I had this moment with my personal trainer and he said that I over analyze things. I was just telling him that I have to be conscious about my back while doing deadlift but he said that instead.
This guy doesn't seem to understand the concept and function of balance training to strenghten the core and biomechanics of the body. Doing squats with both feet on a flat surface doesn"t improve your balance. If your new client who never worked out before isn't feeling a little sore after training, then they might not been doing enough. It might be good to explain the difference in expecting to be sore conpared to being in pain to know if you are working out too hard or not.
Preach
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I just subbed to your channel man. I'm approaching my CPT exam and a career in personal training. This is exactly the kind of stuff I need to hear about man. I'm taking the NASM courses, and it is good for the nuts/bolts of it. However, I feel like you need to have your own stances on issues like this. Which can only come from experience and advice from actual trainers.
How did your training career go?Are you still doing it and do you have any advice for me?
The squats on an unstable surface aren't for walking on unstable surfaces. *sigh* It's to help clients get the movement down along with improve balance. You lost me after that one.
What makes no sense he says dont measure a workout by soreness. I always do makes sense to me. You can have 5 guys who lift the same and will naturally have different shaped muscles. I know guys lighter then me just as strong and not as bulky ...it all depends on makeup so for appearance I wouldn't guarantee them to things you can provide... plus working out different muscles prepares yourself for your bodies imbalance... after all you have more muscles then your arms and chest and legs . Dudes not educated
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Its been proven that muscel soreness or more specifically, delayed on set muscel soreness, does mean that your workout was better than a workout with no soreness
Can you share the paper please? I always thought that muscle soreness was a result of inflammation and not as a result of increased protein synthesis. But really interested if new research has shown different?
Brett Freeman i dont personally know the paper, Jeff nippard the youtuber has talked about it many times though. If i find a specific video that he talks about it i will link it
DId this guy just say that proprioception training is bullshit ??
Αλέξανδρος did you just equate standing on the flat side of a bosu ball with the entire body of proprioceptive training?
@@jordansyatt I am not speaking only for the reverse bosu exercise that you showed. I am speaking generally for the exercises that take place on unstable surfaces like standing on a bosu with one leg trying to balance let's say for ankle sprain rehabilitation...
Perfect, then if you listen to what I say you’ll hear I didn’t say nor insinuate proprioceptive training is bullshit.
I said that one specific exercise for the purpose of gaining strength is not worth the risk:reward as other exercises with the same goal.
That’s it.
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He need trainer also
This guy legit looks like fousey... just older and white lol
Lolol respect
Progress and effectiveness are two different things in the perspective of the fitness industry; I don’t know how you can compare the two against each other and then come up with the silly conclusion that two non-comparable things are a sole indicator that a personal trainer is bad. You kind of discredited yourself there, furthermore the background noise and chaotic scenery are a bit too distracting please don’t attempt to draw a bad name to people based on a single simple minded ‘hook’ of an introduction.
I might also add that you said soreness “doesn’t mean anything other than you are sore.” Sounds a bit redundant and almost backwards. There’s a lot more biologically that goes into muscles soreness and its effects on the muscles and surrounding structures.
I made it to “all that single leg balancing shit...” good luck to anyone that’s buying what this chumps pulling out his earhole
The vocal inflection of this man’s opening statements indicates self-doubt. Hard to take the content seriously.
Thank you, man! Duly noted to work on my vocal inflections during opening statements so as to increase the seriousness of which you receive my content further. Blesses
I love the jab at Tracy Anderson "women shouldn't lift more than 3 pounds"
...... This guy
Braaaaah Surfing is unstable
Did you say the s word?
This guys information is very suspect.
1: Bosu balls are fantastic for stability training.
2: Box Jumps are a fantastic Cardiovascular exercise. You're literally jumping up and down. It's a basic human function. Only obese people shouldn't be jumping, if you are chubby find a box, and jump on it. You'll only get injuries if your box is too high for you.
First two 100% wrong.
What about tide millions of people that work on boats? Lol
Spot reduction is NOT a myth.
Let’s use triceps as the example as you did. If someone changed nothing about their nutrition or training EXCEPT instead of hitting triceps 1x per week they hit triceps 3x per week, you WILL reduce body fat as you build muscle there.
Spot reduction is absolutely possible, I’ve done it, I’ve had hundreds and hundreds of clients do it.
If you target one specific area above others you can spit reduce, it’s an absolute fact. And it’s not bro science, it’s a physiological fact.
Umm yeah i wasted like 2 minutes on this guy.....why did i make this mistake
Sincerest apologies, Dear, William. I wish I could give you those cherished, like, 2 minutes back. But, alas, I can't. Hopefully you'll be more scrutinous of how you spend your time going forward. Wouldn't want you wasting anymore of your, like, 2 minutes' on the likes of me.
@@jordansyatt i don't accept your apology. And, i will definitely be a bit more cautious with my time. You should put some better effort on the videos you post.
Will you are so rude and mean.
@@marietrini7784 well the best thing we thing we can all take from this would be, that i don't care about your opinion. Pay my bills and make me a sandwich after you put my phone on the charger and maybe I'll value your point a bit. Otherwise shut up
Will no problem. At least you read my opinion. Good nite.
Fake nuus
What a waste of my time bro ..... This video was average I was looking for some real info.
Wishing you a happy new year and more positive vibes as well, my friend
Terrible advice, and I've been training for 27 years.
i could not listen to it ...too much profanity for me, personally!
DC THOMPSON how do you know it contains “profanity” if you did not listen to it?