MIG Welding 3g Vertical Open Root Plate Test
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this Mig welding test is used mostly as a preparation for pipe welding. The settings that you get dialed in for plate will also translate just fine over to pipe welding. Downhill root and uphill fill and cap is pretty common for pipe shops. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
That looked awesome. Your definitely an inspiration to us younger generation welder. Every video you post has helped me in my welding career. I am working for Huntington Ingalls shipyard and everyday I try my best to become better and a Master of my craft. I just want to thank you on behalf of all the younger welders that have been truly inspired by your work and techniques. Thank you!
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Going through welding school now and really struggling on uphill MIG, you've helped be out alot buddy, next week got the uphill certificate test coming and with your help I might even make it! Thanks.
I have had three or four welding classes and never learned as much as when watching you. thank you for you patience and excellent descriptions of what you are doing.
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I’ve watched this vid countless times and my root is flawless, hot pass looks pretty darn good but my cap tends to crowns and build up. Videos are so much help btw.
I have practice my down hill for 3g at NAIT, your demostracion it is perfect!!!
Got my WABO 3g test on sat, lol I do production welding and am trying to make the next step in my welding career! This video has helped me learn a ton!
Your videos are so informative and precise. Currently in my final phase of welding school and we are doing bend tests. I needed this! Thank you!
At my tech school we do a end of course weld test for Seniors after our 2 year program. This year we did 3G mig. Everyone passed in my class. It was a x-ray test! Thanks Jody for helping me pass the test!
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You made it look simple. This gives me great confidence. Thank you.
This is a few tears old but this is where I am at. This is exactly what we have for test, 30 degree,1/16" landing with a 3/16" open gap. 18 volts with 210 wire speed argon mix. Thank you sir!
You always make it look so easy, Jody! Great explanation and tips.
Always come away with something new to practice and improve on from watching your videos, excellent stuff as always. Thank You!
Your mig videos have helped me like no other!
I wished I saw this Video before I took my mig test. Great job btw!! Really helpful
Jody, your videos are awesome, and they have also helped me out a bunch. i am a beginner in stick and mig, but your videos have gotten me very skilled. I learn a lot from them. Thanks and keep making more vids!! :)
You have the best welding videos online. Cheers
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That's cool.
this great tutorial has helped me a lot thanks .I have one concerning the question shielding gas for welding up as the gas can graduate
That's looks so nice and clean! I'm practicing this now at work. Thanks for the video and tips.
Definitely not the proper way to do root pass! Thats Falsh! All Countries in Europe!
You are really an example of my dear friend. I wish you all the best
I was wondering when I would get a video this morning ? Thanks Jodi
Dayum that looks beautiful... Our school old machine setting can't make those wave unless it flat surface or just downhill mig welding
Thanks for the video. My welding instructor isn't worth a damn. I just got my 2g cert yesterday. Going for my 3g tomorrow. This video helped a lot. Thanks again
Jade Tighe if you don’t mind me asking , what school or Academy are you attending?
I've learned a lot from your videos,it helped me to became a better welder,keep up the good work and thanx a lot!!!
lmao !!!! Jody you're the best! I love watching and learning from your show.
u make the best welding videos , i appreciate it alot
thanks for your lessons, they help to master the profession of welder
here in japan that first pass is done by putting or used a back chip ceramics for welding..we dont do downhill welding position..here in shipyard
Welds look good. Some diffrences in what you are showing and what I was taught in the boilermakers apprenticeship no down hill all verts and that also includes root pass. Most of the time we are allowed a backing plate but sometimes they want it to be an open joint. Caps are done in 3 passes. One in the center and then one on each side.
Thanks a lot ... I needed this one! I'm getting ready to weld up sum gates for my landscape trailer so I'm compiling my practice list for my horrible pre-weld day practice tries... LOL!
how many amps is he using?
thank you so much..your this video is helping me alot...
i cant find a school to improve my welding skill but your this video is helpinh a lot.
I would like to see a FCAW-G plate test. Great video
That's owesome iam also a welder ,bt your technique is high appreciated, i also need more and more techniques from you
Outstanding weld video!!
Keep up the good work!!
Doing a open root mig in 2 days for a great paying job. Thnx for refresher
Thanks for making these videos, very helpful.
Very nice, thanks for finding the time to make helpful videos. 👍
Nice weld.I wish you would have cut it and shown us the penetration.(looked good)
in welding school and that is the most beautiful weld ive seen yet
Jody, I'm getting ready to weld up side strips that go around the perimeter of a table top. It's aluminum, and I'm not sure how to approach this thing in terms of avoiding distortion. I want the table to be flat when I'm done, but will be welding this strip all the way around the perimeter. It may not be a problem, but it sounds like a recipe for distortion. I've got ideas as to how to keep distortion down, but I'm curious if you have any general ideas on how to approach this thing. I watched your video on distortion, but don't know how that would apply to what I'm doing.
After all of these years I have to thank you for the zillions of excellent videos you've made.
Awesome work,the best weld!!
These videos are incredible
Can you do a video with fill and cap on sch 10 stainless steel pipe I love all your videos and there really helpfull I would like to see you run one of those because there are a lot of welding test that calls for certification for stainless steel pipe thin metal
Nice looking welds as always and great vid...
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Should do a stringer plate test. And why does no body do any dual shield videos in my 17 year career I've ran 1000's of miles of that stuff maybe its a PNW thing ??
Hi Jody; Going back to your Stick Welding Tips Vertical 7018, you said some testers were not allowing weaving because of too much heat input causing grain growth failure, how does it or will it apply to the weave when doing a mig vert. up, like in this video. It seems to have similar heat input to the work and if it causes a problem with stick welding, why wouldn't it cause a problem in mig welding also?Thanks again for your videos, your channel is great.
Thanks Jody awesome video as usual!
Hey Jodi I like all your vids very helpful, I have an issue with a machine I bought about two weeks ago it's a miller trailblazer 302, the problem I'm having is I'll set the machine to let's just say 120 amps and when I strike the arc and run a bead it reads at maybe 89 or 90 amps. Idk how to figure out this problem hope it's not a bad machine can anyone help thanks.
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an alternative to a root with more penetration using a tighter gap like that would be to crank the voltage up to 18-19 volts & turn down your wire speed! like 18.5/180-190. was tricky learning that the longer i can keep the puddle molten, the more wire i can feed into it before it sets. when i started i just tried to turn it down & throw as much wire in there as i could do long as the machine ran well & what you start to realize is the roots sets faster the colder you go & the increased wire speed only fills the gap faster so it doesn’t necessarily give you time to break down the walls & let the puddle soak up any wire.
In my school we are certifying with 4x7x3/8 plate in the horizontal position with a bevel (one flat, one prepared) with a 33 degree angle can you possibly make a video for that it'll be very helpful
Thanks for your advice your skills is helping me Elevate mine thanks again
Excelente tutorial, muchas gracias por su aporte siempre muy importante para nosotros los soldadores
Great video, as always keep it up. Has definitely made me a better welder Cheers!
Nice job Jody.
I know that welding vertical up is not the only way to do it, but why did you chose to do it down? What is the difference between up and down? Does up have more penetration? I am on a welding school and about to certify and need to know as much as I can! I enjoy all your vids thanks !!!!!
I needed this video about 2 weeks ago. They had use doing pulse arc mig with a backing plate that we had to wash off and grind flush. 2 weeks of impossible.
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great video Jody. I do have 3 questions for you tho.
on a plate test like that, is going down-hill acceptable only in open root? in school they only allowed us to go uphill on the 3G plate test, but that's with a backing plate, not open root. can up-hill be done 3G open root?
and grinding... when you want to grind a weld for aesthetics or looks what's the rule or proper way of doing that? I have ground down some welds for looks before, but only ended up weakening the weld and having it break loose or fail.
thanks in advance
Great video, Speaking of crud building up on the mig nozzle, why don't do a quick tip video showing how you clean it. I clean mine and then wipe a thin film of anti spatter on the outside and inside on the nozzle and also on the contact tip.
I also noticed at the very top of the plate that it gets almost too hot and the puddle recedes and draws the plate metal creating a divit per se at the very top. This is a problem I've had welding plate GMAW or smaw in the past. how can you prevent this while having well enough amperage to get good penetration but without causing that? Maybe sacrifice a solid bead for a tie in mid section hit it colder on the final segment? What do you say?
Looks great have a question I have to do vertical on 3/16 plate form my job cant get my weld to look good its not the best looking ones haven't had them break on me but can you do a video on thinned plats than you
Could you tell me you machine settings on the vertice uphill vgroove? I'm having issues with dialing in on this position. Thank you! I love watching your videos!
Wow That's So A Stronger Welding👍
Thank you for your video " Great Info ! ...What technique where you useing , upside down (v) , (u) or weave ?
You should do videos on thinner gauge material like 1-2 mm. I'm trying to take a welding test and need to have some kind of reference.
should do the root uphand ...perfect bead almsot every time
it would be great to see a vertical up open root that's how you are tested in Ireland
isn't too difficult with a MIG gun ??
thats the only way to run mig up hill
It's not too difficult. My mig welding test I had to do a verticle uphill to get my cert
Man. Could you do a 3G FCAW with 100% CO2 tips video?
Hey i weld in all positions tig mig stick oxy flux u name it on ms and ss. That weld was gorgeous my friend
where is your academy? please
Hi, Firstly thanks for all your "Tips & Tricks" :) Question: What camera/lens do you use for your close up work?
Damn, that weld looks great.
Have you ever ran a pulse spray transfer uphill before? If so how did you set up for that and what type of machine did you use?
Question Jody: on the capping pass did you run 2 beads or just one, thanks.
Good info as always. Thank you sir.
I did this one vetical up on an open root and also the over head open root on a two pass...
love your videos
Jody... I think i remember in school i was taught the root pass was vertical up and we used a backer plate?? Does AWS spec that for the test?
Hey Jody at 5:20 there's a whisker on the very bottom. Just curious to know if your plate would bust for that? Beautiful welds kick ass videos you are tha shit dude
I think its way better if u do the root uphill. Not only u can control much better the puddle and the wire at the tip of it, but u get a waaaay better penetration behind. Just my way to do it. And if possible, ill use solid wire for the penetration and flux for the filling! Nice welds!!
why you need to go uphill and get penetration since it's an OPEN root ?? isn't more difficult to do so ?? may be uphill just for fill & cap ?
@@senuolicak7097 in uk we never go down hill it’s called stoving weak as piss
I "learn" welding the hard way; just do it. It was not included in my school training (other direction) :-)
I wonder if you could do a video (serie) on mig for rookies. For instance my machine does not have a gideline chart on wire speed and current with material thickness. So I just try and if I do not burn trough I think I should be ok. When do I use a bevel, or when not!
What does a sputter mean, more wire speed? More gas less gas...
I enjoy watching your video and am great full to you for putting them online, THANKS!
Joop Terwijn Hey Joop ,Check out Jody"s mig welding basics videos , they should answer all your questions . I'm only amateur and they improved my welding skills greatly. A big thank you to you Jody for sharing your knowledge with us . Much appreciated :]
I’m about to take a Canadian weld test that has a stop and start mid plate. I have to do flat, horizontal, vertical and overhead. Do you have any tips? I’ve never had to take a test like this before.
when i got coded last year i had to do a vertical root a hot pass and 2 fill and a cap, i was just wondering is the different specs for welding in Ireland
My instructor wont let us do downhill on this. Also from my experience,3/32 gap is too large. I have a problem with whiskers on the backside for sure though. I hope i can pass it today!!!
beautifully done.
Practicing 3G downhill open root right now, except the teacher wants a 1/8 in. gap with 1/16 in. lands. I figured a bit of oscillating was necessary, but I guess not as long as you stay on the weld puddle.
Anyone have a recommended gas flow rate?
your videos are great thanks for doing what you do
ready for a tig video using that 350mp
You ever going to show some videos using .045 wire? As in our shop we never use wire smaller then that.
When the camera zooms in on the second pass it looks like you're angled up slightly am I correct on that?
Nicely done.
can you do this open root uphill? i have test were you need to do the root uphill with 1/8 gap and it seems almost impossible.
can you make a video of a 3g mig welding test and all passes are traveling down hill. l need to pass a welding test and this is their requirements. it would be a great help thanks.
where i work i got told that we should never weld downhill. I weld the rootpass on 6g and 3g uphill. is that wrong?
Not at all. A lot depends on the thickness of material, process, gas mix (if applicable), and ultimately, what does the WPS say. Up hill is a structural weld. Manufacturing uses a lot of down hand, some kind of wire feed process; usually with a spray transfer which allows the welder to use higher voltage and wire speed. Learn both, but if you have the uphill in control, the down hand should come to you without too much effort. But put some practice in on down hand, in case you run across a WPS that calls for it.
is this even possible ?!!! I was searching for videos doing uphill mig on rootpass but it's sooooo rare ! why is that ?? I heard that downhill is avoided because the lack of fusion and inproper penetration, but since it's an OPEN root I can't see why ??, without mentioning that you increase the risk of shooting the wire through and thus you loose the arc, I think it's more difficult.
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In my apprenticeship program we was told the same thing, Not to run any pass downhill.
using LN -25 I passed 3G using a downhill root method. later learned how to uphill root was a bit more challenging for me.
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Could you give me some tips on 3G uphill with a 1/8 inch gap and 1/8 inch landing, setting on machine ? Flux after root, ( root hard wire)
Thanks. Awesome job.
real good vids.makes me want do this with pipeline vids
Ron Mower you would probably get alot of views someone needs to some inconel too
An old timer taught me to butt weld with a bit of a lower wire speed than u normally would use and still keep the volts the same. This will result in a nice flat run