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10 Ways The RICH Avoid Paying Taxes (And YOU Can Too)

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    Let's discuss 10 tax strategies that the rich use to optimize their finances and that you might want to consider for yourself.
    Retirement savings aren't just about IRAs and 401(k)s. The rich often invest in defined benefit plans, allowing them to contribute significantly more-sometimes over $500,000 a year!
    These strategies are about understanding and leveraging the incentives within the tax code to your advantage.
    Throughout the video, I'll break down each of these strategies and more, helping you understand how you can legally reduce your tax burden and keep more of your hard-earned money.
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    2:57 Retirement Accounts
    5:45 Tax Deferred Investments
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  • @TobyMathis
    @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If you want to dive deeper into tax strategies, schedule a free consultation with my team today. Visit: aba.link/8rx

  • @flsupraguy
    @flsupraguy หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Out of all the "youtubers" out there Toby is the most genuine and educated! I LOVE your videos! Thank you for all that you do!

    • @mississippiapple1078
      @mississippiapple1078 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't believe how much he knows. It's scary

  • @matthewellis3004
    @matthewellis3004 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Deep dive on oil and gas please🤝💪

  • @TheNorthsider615
    @TheNorthsider615 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i heard of loss harvest but can you do a deep dive into that?

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll definitely consider recording this topic in an upcoming video!

  • @Gym-bars-cars
    @Gym-bars-cars 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A wealth of knowledge and as of recent a real estate professional, I was not aware of all these tax saving opportunities. Well done thanks for taking the time.

  • @bold2013
    @bold2013 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks. What are some examples of these oil and gas funds?

    • @pwnish3r
      @pwnish3r 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know Master Limited Partnerships (MLPs) such as ET and ENB do a K-1 tax form, which returns the principal you invest in them in the form of dividends. What this effectively means is you don't pay a dime of taxes on the dividends until after the sum of total dividends equates to amount of capital invested. Only then have you made a taxable income on the investment.
      I know private REITs work the same way. Not sure what else.

  • @davidauton2889
    @davidauton2889 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Doing a video on “tax bracket management” would be wonderful!

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll keep that video idea in mind. Thanks for the suggestion

  • @tonyreisdorff1959
    @tonyreisdorff1959 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I am interested in learning more about charities. It is rarely talked about beyond the simple donation.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's a fantastic interest. Reach out to my team to get started. Visit: aba.link/8rx

  • @Thewealthwarehousepodcast
    @Thewealthwarehousepodcast 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whole life insurance should be the first place the money goes. Then use the cash value to buy other assets.

  • @junedu2252
    @junedu2252 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very useful information! Retirement accounts like defined benefit plans is the topic that I would like to know more about.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm glad you found the video helpful. Retirement planning is so important.

  • @KillerZero259
    @KillerZero259 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    27:25, does anyone know if it is worth moving over to a S-Corp / C-Corp if the side business is ONLY making 20 grand a year, for example?

  • @DEEPRAWT
    @DEEPRAWT วันที่ผ่านมา

    practical and usable SBLOC strategies that doesnt bind one to owning rental property ?

  • @JS-pf5fv
    @JS-pf5fv 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    must be a pain to have an etf called tivo when google continuosly displays information about the company and not the etf.
    great information and i will be contacting you guys soon.

  • @malcolmscoins7581
    @malcolmscoins7581 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really loving your channel but I'm 61 and have no knowledge yet just learning what to do help me please I'm about to come into a bit of cash dint want to waste it

  • @DavidLua-w2o
    @DavidLua-w2o หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to know more about setting up your own charities and combining that with a management company to manage all of my family affairs and future businesses.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would recommend setting up a free consultation to talk about some strategies. Sign up here: aba.link/8rx

  • @julienaudet9782
    @julienaudet9782 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would like to learn more about donating real estate to charity that I own........

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should definitely reach out to my team about this. Visit aba.link/8rx

  • @kristenreitzel6788
    @kristenreitzel6788 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm blown away with your knowledge! I have been benge watching you, and I feel so empowered. I'm beyond upset that I have t found you sooner, like when my parents' estate was being handled. I feel like I was screwed over big time with how it was set up and dispersed. Also on how to move forward with what I did receive, maybe I wouldn't be in the mess I'm in now.
    Thanks to you I've heard of most of the 10 you listed, a d eager to learn more !

  • @keithmachado-pp6fv
    @keithmachado-pp6fv 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Outstanding stuff. I have had a brokerage account for over 40 years and never paid $1 in capital gains (I do have some dividends reinvested) and I harvest losses every year. It will be the last money I touch after SS, pension and IRA so my heirs will get a step up in basis.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's great to hear how you've managed your investments so wisely.

  • @epboyd
    @epboyd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Short SPX box spreads (with portfolio margin) is better than SBLOCs - lower interest rate, and the interest paid is a capital loss.

  • @Esterline_Investments
    @Esterline_Investments 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would like to hear more about tax efficient funds

  • @robertg1556
    @robertg1556 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't get it. Bought a house for 90K, worth 315K and assumed it was paid off when you donated it and got a 120K write off. What happened to the other 95K?

    • @xaldath4265
      @xaldath4265 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm pretty sure that was the tax savings in his example, not the write-off amount.

  • @CheapGodiva
    @CheapGodiva หลายเดือนก่อน

    This information is so very useful. I wasn't aware that the dividends were taxed at a lower rate. I thought it was 40% for dividend taxation. I had already intended to use the depreciation of real estate once i start buying., I'll have to find some way to officially show up in the lower bracket to benefit from the dividend 23%.

  • @zoeystone8780
    @zoeystone8780 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    please deep dive in Loss Harvesting for traders/investors ( short-term/long term) of various kinds of assets such as forex currencies, index futures, stocks, crypto, etc...can short term traders ( day traders, swing traders) also take advantage of Loss Harvesting?

  • @worldchanges10
    @worldchanges10 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your advices are meant for those with extra cash “rich people “ to invest in multiple strategies, but for those living paycheck to paycheck have no extra, plus much pay taxes

  • @rcruz401
    @rcruz401 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do fund mt PUA's in my whole life with money from my C Corp that i take out and put into my Heloc.( I do use credit cards for business expenses)
    That heloc i use to pay business real estate taxes and insurance. I then turn around and take policy loans and loan it to the business so it can pay off credit cards.
    The business then pays me back the loans on a monthly basis with the same interest as the credit cards would charge.
    Is this method beneficial?

  • @MrStudmuffin505
    @MrStudmuffin505 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos sir.
    Charitable giving is something I have heard of, but not broken down to this level of detail. I hope to utilize all ten in the future

  • @Narxist
    @Narxist หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! This is great information.
    Now that I have reached a high income, I started paying close attention to the amount going out in taxes.
    There is so much I need to learn. I thought all whole life policies were bad, so I never took time to learn about them.
    I also thought bonds underperformed, so I never considered tax-free munis.
    Lastly, I would like to know more about donations and foundations for tax avoidance.
    Thanks.

  • @theodoreblackmon9174
    @theodoreblackmon9174 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Toby - love the video. I was not clear though on #1, the Retirement Savings Accoubnts, notably the Defined Benefits Plans. It sounded like one might be able to do this through a family LLC, o would you use another business?

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I recommend registering for a complimentary consultation with my team. We'll tailor our advice to your specific needs. Sign up here: aba.link/8rx

  • @thecuzzin
    @thecuzzin 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best channel for big wrinkle forming! Thank you Toby and God Bless!

  • @nancylewis9853
    @nancylewis9853 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed learning about many of these strategies at your Tax and Asset Protection workshop in Dallas. Looking forward to attending the next one as well. The information is invaluable!

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      So happy you enjoyed the workshop! Can't wait to see you at the next one!

  • @mylifeonthebeach
    @mylifeonthebeach 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Toby, longtime subscriber to Clint and then you. Such great content! 1 beef … I have to watch your videos twice, because I generally listen to them while doing other tasks and sometimes driving. Then I have to watch again so I can take notes! 😂😂😂
    Familiar with most of the 10, some more in depth than others but particularly like anything that is applicable to later life stages with accumulated assets. Still have business interests though. How about strategies for individuals with 100% passive income, that wants to not give so much to DC? Single, no kids.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I appreciate your dedication to watching my videos! I’ll definitely consider your request for strategies tailored to individuals with passive income. Stay tuned for more content!

  • @johnvdk
    @johnvdk หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Toby, thank you for again a very informative video. Regarding the life insurance banking, do you have any idea how we as non American can take advantage of this (Europe)?
    Thanks in advance
    Best regards,
    John

  • @melissaleak7241
    @melissaleak7241 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ❤Love You Toby!❤❤❤❤❤Knowledge is Power Freedom and Quality of Liberty & Life!

    • @Scuba-D
      @Scuba-D หลายเดือนก่อน

      Knowledge isnt crap if you cant apply it to the real world💯

  • @keithmachado-pp6fv
    @keithmachado-pp6fv 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some states have Estate tax at much lower limits. MA is brutal.

  • @leroyjenkins5584
    @leroyjenkins5584 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will tell you... I love your content big time. Long term fan. I hate number 3. I always feel like a loser no matter what. Ive failed at number 7 so many times but I need it. Number 8 is no good in my state. Number 4 I need more doors. I still have to write a bunch of covered calls and puts to make it. I really want to be more tax efficient though

  • @thehoopscoop
    @thehoopscoop หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is an amazing video! Sending it to my friends.

  • @zoeystone8780
    @zoeystone8780 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please deep dive in Charities: can a day trader be an employee of his/her own charity, but as charitable work do day trading or long term investing for his/her own charity, while truly giving the proceeds to various churches or other good causes like veterans, single moms, recovery centers?

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stay tuned! I'll have a video released this Friday about charities.

  • @NellySP
    @NellySP หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Toby - Hi. I had heard of all of these strategies but I was able to learn a little more on Loss Harvesting and Tax Free Bonds. I love your content and my favorite strategy that I am working really hard a this moment is to build a Real Estate portfolio.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @ricric8348
    @ricric8348 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm retired how to get around paying tax on interest income? Thanks sold home waiting to buy when market dips.

  • @zoeystone8780
    @zoeystone8780 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you for this free education. it's really true that in the information age, ignorance is a choice. This information can help "the poor" become wealthy too; we have no more excuses if we don't act on such knowledge. Thank you again!

  • @angelocean365
    @angelocean365 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Toby great info!

  • @DavidParent3044
    @DavidParent3044 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think a General Contractor qualifies as a real estate professional ?

  • @johnnysmith4514
    @johnnysmith4514 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As always gteat videos. Could u help out w how to set up whole life insurance. Thanks

  • @brucehill334
    @brucehill334 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you very much Toby. What you’re doing is GREAT. We hope having more helpful people like you Toby. We thank you.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I appreciate the support

  • @ericzuniga8495
    @ericzuniga8495 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a little fish ($500K in liquid assets). I make $120K and hope to sell a $1M house and retire in 1 year. I will probably take $800K from the house sale. My question is, "Which of these 10 make the most sense for me"? Which ones have the best benefit / cost ratio given my situation? Great video as always - keep 'em coming.

  • @RaadYacu
    @RaadYacu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interested in knowing more about Loss Harvesting and Real Estate protection for multi unit owner. Great video

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Feel free to reach out to my team to learn more about real estate asset protection. aba.link/8rx

  • @georgekraus9357
    @georgekraus9357 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1031 Exchange is the most commonly used by the ultra rich ...

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 1031 Exchange can be a powerful tool for real estate investors.

  • @bethhynes787
    @bethhynes787 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The one I am the most interested in is the Charitable Trusts/Charitable Remainder Trusts and how that might be used if you have a special needs child.....
    Thanks for this Info

  • @mississippiapple1078
    @mississippiapple1078 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never heard of oil gas... what is that??

  • @gracewalsh4908
    @gracewalsh4908 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    👍 love all your videos! 🇺🇸 Happy independece day!

  • @AJ-qz7xo
    @AJ-qz7xo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a mix tax strategy with real estate and a trading account under the same LLC.
    Or RE and Private lending interest income

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would recommend setting up a free consultation to talk about some strategies and how they apply to your unique situation. Sign up here aba.link/8rx

  • @KingWillSkill
    @KingWillSkill หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the most important videos I've ever watched.

  • @RealK2024
    @RealK2024 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who are those tax harvesting loss companies? I'm interested in that option.

  • @randylord5315
    @randylord5315 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If we make less than 50k/yr and have a LT Capital Gain of $2mil, do we owe any tax on the profits?

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes - the long term gain is included in the calculation of the tax bracket. Depending on whether you are married filing jointly, a portion of the gain will be taxed at 0%, 15% or 20%. This can be offset, of course, by capital losses or ordinary losses.

  • @keithmachado-pp6fv
    @keithmachado-pp6fv 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Important on trusts to get the right assets into the trust but have other assets properly titled to avoid probate. My parents had a trust and the house and other assets were in trust but IRA’s go by beneficiary designation and my mom had my dad as primary and my sister and I as contingent but dad never claimed the account so when he passed it went to his estate and we had to go to probate even with the trust. He passed in 2020 at height of the pandemic and no courts were open. I did the research and filed for probate myself without a lawyer.

  • @Joseph-ux8xg
    @Joseph-ux8xg หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Toby for this truly valuable information. What if you build single family rentals from the ground up. Is it better to sell or keep?

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Deciding whether to sell or keep single-family rentals involves considering several factors. If the real estate market is performing well, selling could offer a favorable return. On the other hand, if you expect property values to increase, retaining the properties might be more advantageous in the long run. Properties that provide consistent rental income and are manageable can generate ongoing cash flow and appreciate over time. Selling could lead to capital gains taxes, whereas keeping the properties allows you to take advantage of depreciation and other tax benefits. Reflect on your investment strategy and financial goals: if you’re seeking short-term profits, selling might be the better option. If your focus is on long-term wealth accumulation, holding onto the properties could be more in line with your objectives. Ultimately, it’s about weighing immediate financial needs against long-term investment goals.

    • @Joseph-ux8xg
      @Joseph-ux8xg 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TobyMathisthank you sir!!!

  • @malcolmscoins7581
    @malcolmscoins7581 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So what are tax deferred assets

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, you should check out this blog to get a better understanding. andersonadvisors.com/tax-free-vs-tax-deferred-tax-planning/

  • @kaneboy664
    @kaneboy664 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate your great ideas and content.
    Looking forward to becoming a client someday.
    Bravo.

  • @malcolmscoins7581
    @malcolmscoins7581 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Toby how much does it cost to have your help in all this

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would recommend setting up a free consultation with my team. aba.link/8rx

  • @CheapGodiva
    @CheapGodiva 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The oil and gas interest in news to me

  • @magentasunshine7811
    @magentasunshine7811 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had no idea I could ask Vanguard for a margin loan! Thank you!

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy to help!

  • @luckytofu9617
    @luckytofu9617 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which TH-cam channel is the Toby in Canada?

  • @batterynow
    @batterynow หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great advise and ideas. most of them are new to me. Thank you

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @daleybrennan9867
    @daleybrennan9867 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a big fan of your videos. Thank you, Toby.

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you like them!

  • @johndownes5813
    @johndownes5813 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent stuff!

  • @ElLeNoir..ELconomics
    @ElLeNoir..ELconomics หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What up Coach Toby!!

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome back =)

  • @jamessullivan8300
    @jamessullivan8300 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid, many thanks!

  • @willmallory9085
    @willmallory9085 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent topic! $$$

  • @ASHLEYRIGOSU
    @ASHLEYRIGOSU 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All you have to do is pass away 😂😂

  • @CookingwithZee
    @CookingwithZee หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG I love this video!!!

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your support means the world to me, thank you

  • @sethmiller5414
    @sethmiller5414 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good content

  • @scottjackson163
    @scottjackson163 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who do you regard as “the rich”?

  • @justandegeneffe8456
    @justandegeneffe8456 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome content

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for your kind words!

  • @GChevy410
    @GChevy410 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Didn’t talk about depreciation recapture on real estate! That one will bite you in the butt.

  • @irinapoova555
    @irinapoova555 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could yu make detailed video on living trust please

    • @TobyMathis
      @TobyMathis  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/PrYfebuDz8A/w-d-xo.html

  • @user-lh9zp5my3h
    @user-lh9zp5my3h หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m wealthy and haven’t paid a penny in taxes thanks to all that Trump & the Congressional Republicans have done to support us. We should all agree with Trump that the middle class should always pick up the bill in helping the poor and supporting us wealthy folks not pay taxes. Thank Republicans in helping me get richer and richer everyday, by handing the bill only to the middle class. ❤ Love these tax loopholes the Trump & Republicans created for us wealthy folk. 😂

  • @1zcott
    @1zcott 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Let's dive in" please stop this

  • @sondersrn8061
    @sondersrn8061 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8 😁

  • @nataliepapolis
    @nataliepapolis 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So who is paying taxes of which schools are built of which roads are built....oh right the poor smuck working for a wage and the taxes are sucked up by the government automatically, but the rich that use people to build their business and pay them a stipend get all the breaks, wow,

  • @willmallory9085
    @willmallory9085 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:31 Unless you open a Roth Crypto IRA. 😊$$$

  • @IbnBahtuta
    @IbnBahtuta 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A channel on how to avoid paying taxes. smh

  • @docwells5058
    @docwells5058 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You just said Obama and not former President Obama. Put some respect on his title

    • @tonyreisdorff1959
      @tonyreisdorff1959 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      We are here to learn about $ take your politics somewhere else and stop trying to be the grammar police.

    • @taylorjackson3537
      @taylorjackson3537 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Last time i checked we still live in a free country with freedom of speech. He can address Obama as he pleases

  • @docwells5058
    @docwells5058 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Stop calling him President Trump. He is the former President 😂

    • @mrsterling5306
      @mrsterling5306 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Once someone has ascended to that title, they retain it till their death.

    • @docwells5058
      @docwells5058 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @mrsterling5306 I agree, but he should've said former President Trump. Yet, in the same video, he only says Obama and not President or former President

    • @mrsterling5306
      @mrsterling5306 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Uh oh, I think I see where you’re going. I’m going to listen more closely to notice Toby’s personal views.

    • @docwells5058
      @docwells5058 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @mrsterling5306 To say it once could be a slip up but he did it twice. So I'm like ok, what's up?

    • @rcruz401
      @rcruz401 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Are you listening to this for business advice or political advice?
      I don't take relationship advice from Trump.
      People need to learn how to compartmentalize information and brush the rest off their shoulders.

  • @candeffect
    @candeffect หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    President Trump.
    2024.