The eldians were in Marley and the rest of the world before the walls were formed. Maybe a million volunteered to protect their people forming the walls, and the 1.25 mil residents are the ones who chose to live in the walls.
Probs pulled a Thanos and like, randomly picked a bunch of people. Don't forget the vast majority of the population on the island migrated in droves from a continent assumedly the size of Africa if not bigger. If we're in the business of theory crafting we could just say the civilisation that was already on the island wasn't established enough for such a massive surge in population and as a way to ease famine and set up protection a bunch were sacrificed to make the walls
That makes me curious if Isayama would have like to draw a lot more things also. Like maybe the ending we got was severely watered down compared to the one he wanted to give us.
Yeah, page limitations seem to be a big thing for a lot of mangaka unfortunately. Maybe one day we'll get a novelization of AoT with Isayama's input? 🤔🤔
I've always thought the two flash back episodes in season 4 could have been their own season. Seeing the island react to the new information, seeing the volunteers teach them everything, and how Erens plot formed would have been great. Then, a whole season of them gallivanting around the world trying (and failing) to find allies would have been fun too.
I always hated the idea of the Wall Titans coming out of nothing literally, because if that were true, there would never be a need for people to become titans, which means the whole plot makes no sense, so I'm glad Isayama confirm this, but I also hate that he uses the excuse that if there had been more pages available, this is prove that the ending was rushed, he could have easily done 1 more chapter, with everything more developed, there was no need to end at chapter 139 and a lot of controversy could have been avoided.
The industry is a bit more complex than just getting an extra page when you need one. I understand the sentiment, but we should also understand that Isayama did his best. He has no reason to sabotage his own story. If Isayama couldn't get an extra page or an extra few chapters, they're very well may have been extenuating circumstances that we will never know. He has earned the benefit of the doubt at least.
4:50 It could just be that King Fritz considers dying as a Titan "in ignorance" under the same umbrella as the people in the walls. And this completely fits with the anti-natalism that makes Zeke so agree with King Fritzs ideology. Zeke is also fine with transforming innocent people into Titans as long as it helps in fulfilling his Euthanization plan, eventough he feels pity for them, they are still ultimately unaware and ignorant to what happens to them as Titans. Also Fritz was fine with them being eaten. He tought his people needed to die for the greater good. Turning thme into Titans would actually be a blessing in his eyes as they die without any pain. Also, the number of Titans in the walls is easily explained by the fact that it is stated during "Declaration of War" that King Fritz took as many people as possible and fled to Paradis. And obviously, the people he brought with him can easily be used for the walls and the rest of them can just popualte the walls. Its never explcitily stated the number of people he was able to gather, so it can easily be he brought millions of people and then a small fraction of them would go on to be the Paradisians, while the others as Wall Titans. Its not like anyone could stop him beside the Noble famailies taht we know cant have their memeories erased, like the council in S3 Part 1 or the Ackermanns.
I'd say it's likely the people sacrificed to become wall titans were necessary. Because with the people being suddenly limited to a much smaller farmable surface, this was a necessary measure.
Its important to remember that Eren could only revive the past 9 titans during the Battle of Heaven and earth is because he's the Doomsday Titan not the Founding ( The Doomsday is the official name for the Founder, Warhammer, Attack combination ) Eren and Ymir used the Founder to "revive" them and used the Warhammer to build them physical bodies, it's very important to have the both powers as without the Founder you're just building empty shells and without the Warhammer you cant build them bodies. The Founder can't build titans out of nothing as it needs some sort of starting template IE an eldian human to turn into the titan, whereas say Karl Fritz also possessed the Warhammer he probably could build titans out of nothing ( using the consciousness's of past shifters with the founder and giving them a physical body with the warhammer )
Whats the source on the official name of the combo titan being called the Doomsday Titan? That's an awesome name I've just never seen it mentioned before.
if only Isayama wasn't fixated with ending the manga at chapter 139, we could have had a lot more small details like these in the actual story oh and also, rip to all of those wall titans that where crossing lava fields/where in snow regions, they most likely all died
@@gg_sam7847 yes, and given the context of everything we've seen, it's arguable the humans wouldn't even be able to move, have their memories of who they are, and even if they'd even "be alive" in the context of what it means to be alive. Imagine thousands of Eren's after their first transformation, gaining consciousness again after a good amount of time (like Eren) especially because they were Colossals embedded in the walls for a hundred years. Yes these are things to take into account here. If anything they were casualties of war.
@@joshholleran9005 it's only the hour or so before they first turn into a titan that they don't remember. Ymir remembered her past very clearly after being a Titan for 60 years. There's no point in wiping memories of someone you're turning into a titan either, they're still going to be mindless sacks of meat trapped in the dark and unable to move for a long long time, wiping their memories is pointless. And if we're going by what Willy said, the walls were set up first and then the memories of everyone in the walls were wiped, and wiping clean the consciousness of an entire civilisation will just make it fail so they would have been tweaked to forget the outside world is still alive not be turned into mindless dolls. I genuinely still have no idea what you are trying to say here, but yes the Wall Titans would still be functional human beings that once they wake up will just be confused about how they got there, that's if they don't drown/freeze/burn to death before they wake up
"How do you even explain what AoT is about." is the problem that made me hate the series and not want to watch it for years. Everyone would always just say "It's a series about giant humanoid monsters that eat people and there's also cool fights." and I would always be like "That's it? Sounds kind of lame." There really isn't a way to describe the story accurately without being super surface level, or being way too vague sounding like "It's about humanity" or whatever.
@@VidelxSpopovich The way all the air in my lungs just left my body while reading that......(Tbh tho, I think early 1900's era Japan is maybe a better comparison. A secluded island nation where they are so ashamed of what they did that they have a complete 180 and lead people to believe they didn't do anything wrong, while their sister-nations on the mainline very much remember all the horrible atrocities they committed and are dead set on believing that they're "still monsters deep down". The real world correlations in AoT are meant to be flexible though)
@@dylanvscomics8138 You’ll have to be more specific. Japan has committed a lot of atrocities in the past. Though, honestly I think it’s easier to forgive them considering they were isolated for so long. I mean just imagine this, and I’m not joking. So you’re a nation of short people who generally look very similar to one another and then you’re borders get opened and you realize the rest of the world is on average a foot or more taller than most of your population and much stronger with far greater numbers. Yeah, you’re going to be a little racist and defensive about that I’d imagine.
I'm having so much trouble trying to explain AOT without spoiling it to my friends who aren't sure about watching it, feels like whatever I say will be a huge spoiler.
Lowkey think im wrong ngl, mightve just been a discussion but i still think after a while clothes disappear, i dont think eren had his jacket on still when running to zeke before getting his head shot off
@@JakeYolk he did not have his Jacket on, but he had only transformed into a titan like couple of hours prior to this event, I am not sure that would be enough to destroy a whole Jacket, and also why just the Jacket and not the T-Shirt and pants??
Do you read fantasy books? It sounds like you would enjoy it alot. It scratches my itch for big fantasy worlds and stories that aot created. Stormlight archive for peak heroic fantasy (but the books are huge), and First Law for dark fantasy with the best made characters I have ever seen are my recomendations
Few things Kroto, love the new intro and style you a g. Second I always felt like they were always prisoners lowkey. Idk why but it doesn’t feel that far from Fritz the dumbo who decided the renounce of war to also deem a certain population “good” enough to keep everything going on. Along with that I am writing this at the time of like 5 minutes so you brought up the reclamation mission. It’s never been far fetched for unfair fates for the greater good.
One question in regards to the apparantly MILLIONS of Eldians that survived the Rumbling; How did they not overpower the remainiing population in the world? 80% of the world population died Most infrastructure is gone, except for tiny pockets, and Paradise. If these Eldians joined Paradise...how the hell did they not outnumber and outpace the rest of the world in technology, population, and military might to the point where they wouldn't get blasted to what we see in the ending? Also...where did they go? And how did they not starve right away? Paradise isn't THAT massive of an island...if they suddenly got 20-50x the population, could they even feed them?
They probably did not long after a recovery era all over the world because not long after that we see Paradise experience peace for a while and then the war emerge over and over again probably because the hands of traitors.
So, with assuming that the total world population in AoT before the rumbling happens is around 2 billion (about the same as real life in the 1920s), 80% killed is 1.6 billion, leaving still 400 million alive vs Paradis.
@@Сайтамен No there is more, a couple times in the anime and manga some maps of the whole world are shown, and you can see that all the continents are pretty much there, just upside down and inverted. Edit: ofc, some people did the math, and just the area within the walls is as big as Turkey, so the entirety of Paradis island is even much bigger than that, making it like, I think something like twice as big as the real life Madagascar? meaning that the entire world is also twice as big, but I just chalk that up to isayama not thinking about the math lol
16:27 you know what “what if” I want to see, “what if Erwin was chosen instead of Armin” but I want it done like how you are saying, not to be taken seriously and just to satisfy my curiosity
The only thing that'd change is you get a bad ending. Eren doesn't see a hopeful future and wipes the world clean for the remaining Eldians to inevitably find a reason to kill each other, or Eren doesn't see a hopeful future so he just goes along with what everyone else says and Paradise probably gets savagely defeated by the world Alliance
@ yeah but I want something official from Isayama because he’s the one that truly knows what the characters would do. Everything else is just speculation for the most part
In fact perhaps it's not the world that bombs Shiganshina at the end, but the revenge of the former colossals who set up their own vengeful empire😅😅 But the Ackermanns survive 💪💪
My interpretation is that Eren never had full control. That's why the pure titans never revert to nornal. Character wise I see no reason for Eren not to revert Pixis and everyone to humans if he could. Especially considering the Eren edgelord is a facade. He still cared about everyone. As stated by Armin and Yelena, if Eren or Zeke had control, the pure titans would not have attacked them. It's really off. Plus in the final battle Armin states that the resistance is coming from Ymir, not Eren. For those reasons I think Ymir had control. Or at least Ymir mixed with Eren's mind and they became one. Still, everything is mainly due to Ymir. Plus the hallucigenia that transforms eldians into titans by its own will. All of this is to let us have our own interpretation of who did what. Eren? Ymir? Hallucigenia? Think about Eren's last words before becoming the founding titan with Ymir. He sympathises with her. Says he'll end this "world" actually refering to the curse Ymir has been through with the weight of Fritz's supremacism. Eren is genuienly saddened by Ymir's long 2000 year wait. Eren is sad. He holds her. Then Ymir shows her first emotion : anger. Then Rumbling starts. It does feel like Ymir's anger makes more sense to be the Rumbling's trigger than Eren's saddness.
Why are you trying to insert some "wanted to be correct" here lmao, I never "pushed" anything, I literally said Isayama's explanation is the one that has a ton of evidence in support of it? The origin of the wall titans has been a talking point for years and the idea that they are not people is not even mine? 😂 I think if you've seen my other content, you'll know very well that I don't care about being right. This is a discussion where I just want to yap about things I find interesting. 🤷♂️
Episode 1's title is the only episode in the entire series that doesn't have an explanation until you get to the Ymir story... except for the little fact of Eren seeing the future RIGHT AFTER the title card. I call it blatant spoiler for the giggles, obviously people won't jump to time-travel(y)-memory-magic right away, but at the same time, it is high-key insane to pull something that obvious.
@@JakeYolk not what the OP asked for. Japanese title implies both, it's a double meaning title. It can mean 'Advancing of Titans' or 'The Advancing Titan' People assumed, it meant - Advancing of Titans, which was true for S1-S3, when Titans invaded them. With reveal of the name of Eren's titan at end of S3 - it struck the same shock for japanese people too - now it started to mean 'The Advancing Titan'
Every time this man adds something to the series the more it makes me hate the ending! He honestly just needs to say stuff like "it's in the story" when answering questions like this. Otherwise it's just frustrating to hear!
Eh I don't really feel it. I've not seen much he's "added" since but this all seems obvious and people with problems about it confuse me. It's not like he's pulling a J.K.Rowling where he's literally just adding whatever he feels like, it's more filling stuff he left out
Dude the conversation with Ramzi is heartbreaking. Especially in combination with the focussed insanely gruesome death of Ramzi. Whenever people say Erens character was assassinated in the last movie because he has a mental breakdown. I always think of that conversation.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs I don't believe in the death of an author. the reason due to us never understanding someone enough to understand intentions when we die no one on earth would still ever know us truly
The eldians were in Marley and the rest of the world before the walls were formed. Maybe a million volunteered to protect their people forming the walls, and the 1.25 mil residents are the ones who chose to live in the walls.
They chose to live in the walls but probably didn’t chose to become the walls
probably the paradisians never volunteered to anything, the founder just mind-controlled them the whole time
Yeah and perhaps thats the reason the wall cult was even formed. To respect and worship them for volunteering to do that.
Fritz was pro-peace. He could have forced all those who wanted the war to become the walls
My money is on this theory@@enorma29
Probs pulled a Thanos and like, randomly picked a bunch of people. Don't forget the vast majority of the population on the island migrated in droves from a continent assumedly the size of Africa if not bigger.
If we're in the business of theory crafting we could just say the civilisation that was already on the island wasn't established enough for such a massive surge in population and as a way to ease famine and set up protection a bunch were sacrificed to make the walls
I think it's not just the population of paradise but that of the eldian empire has to be accounted
Exactly
That makes me curious if Isayama would have like to draw a lot more things also. Like maybe the ending we got was severely watered down compared to the one he wanted to give us.
Yeah, page limitations seem to be a big thing for a lot of mangaka unfortunately.
Maybe one day we'll get a novelization of AoT with Isayama's input? 🤔🤔
@@KorotoTV That would be great.
Every artists who has ever made something has had ideas they wanted to put in but couldnt
I've always thought the two flash back episodes in season 4 could have been their own season. Seeing the island react to the new information, seeing the volunteers teach them everything, and how Erens plot formed would have been great. Then, a whole season of them gallivanting around the world trying (and failing) to find allies would have been fun too.
@@KorotoTV He added 4 pages after 139, what stopped him from adding more?
I always hated the idea of the Wall Titans coming out of nothing literally, because if that were true, there would never be a need for people to become titans, which means the whole plot makes no sense, so I'm glad Isayama confirm this, but I also hate that he uses the excuse that if there had been more pages available, this is prove that the ending was rushed, he could have easily done 1 more chapter, with everything more developed, there was no need to end at chapter 139 and a lot of controversy could have been avoided.
The industry is a bit more complex than just getting an extra page when you need one.
I understand the sentiment, but we should also understand that Isayama did his best. He has no reason to sabotage his own story.
If Isayama couldn't get an extra page or an extra few chapters, they're very well may have been extenuating circumstances that we will never know. He has earned the benefit of the doubt at least.
4:50 It could just be that King Fritz considers dying as a Titan "in ignorance" under the same umbrella as the people in the walls. And this completely fits with the anti-natalism that makes Zeke so agree with King Fritzs ideology. Zeke is also fine with transforming innocent people into Titans as long as it helps in fulfilling his Euthanization plan, eventough he feels pity for them, they are still ultimately unaware and ignorant to what happens to them as Titans.
Also Fritz was fine with them being eaten. He tought his people needed to die for the greater good. Turning thme into Titans would actually be a blessing in his eyes as they die without any pain.
Also, the number of Titans in the walls is easily explained by the fact that it is stated during "Declaration of War" that King Fritz took as many people as possible and fled to Paradis. And obviously, the people he brought with him can easily be used for the walls and the rest of them can just popualte the walls. Its never explcitily stated the number of people he was able to gather, so it can easily be he brought millions of people and then a small fraction of them would go on to be the Paradisians, while the others as Wall Titans. Its not like anyone could stop him beside the Noble famailies taht we know cant have their memeories erased, like the council in S3 Part 1 or the Ackermanns.
Krueger is also fine with transforming innocent people into Titans as long as it helps in fulfilling his plan
I'd say it's likely the people sacrificed to become wall titans were necessary. Because with the people being suddenly limited to a much smaller farmable surface, this was a necessary measure.
AOT explained/summarised:
Titans show up, causes devestation, survive!
Its important to remember that Eren could only revive the past 9 titans during the Battle of Heaven and earth is because he's the Doomsday Titan not the Founding ( The Doomsday is the official name for the Founder, Warhammer, Attack combination ) Eren and Ymir used the Founder to "revive" them and used the Warhammer to build them physical bodies, it's very important to have the both powers as without the Founder you're just building empty shells and without the Warhammer you cant build them bodies. The Founder can't build titans out of nothing as it needs some sort of starting template IE an eldian human to turn into the titan, whereas say Karl Fritz also possessed the Warhammer he probably could build titans out of nothing ( using the consciousness's of past shifters with the founder and giving them a physical body with the warhammer )
Whats the source on the official name of the combo titan being called the Doomsday Titan? That's an awesome name I've just never seen it mentioned before.
millions is propaganda by Willy Tybur. I think someone said after calculation is around 270.000
Wouldn't be enough to trample the continent.
@@Сайтаменyou underestimate their size
@@nupersu6307 Fans already calculated it, a million can barely strech over the enire continent.
@@Сайтамен and? you can still trample the continent
@@nupersu6307 It would be just playing cat and mouse chase.
if only Isayama wasn't fixated with ending the manga at chapter 139, we could have had a lot more small details like these in the actual story
oh and also, rip to all of those wall titans that where crossing lava fields/where in snow regions, they most likely all died
Or still in the ocean
It's not like they were people anymore anyway.
@@joshholleran9005 ??? Are we watching the same video?
@@gg_sam7847 yes, and given the context of everything we've seen, it's arguable the humans wouldn't even be able to move, have their memories of who they are, and even if they'd even "be alive" in the context of what it means to be alive. Imagine thousands of Eren's after their first transformation, gaining consciousness again after a good amount of time (like Eren) especially because they were Colossals embedded in the walls for a hundred years. Yes these are things to take into account here. If anything they were casualties of war.
@@joshholleran9005 it's only the hour or so before they first turn into a titan that they don't remember. Ymir remembered her past very clearly after being a Titan for 60 years. There's no point in wiping memories of someone you're turning into a titan either, they're still going to be mindless sacks of meat trapped in the dark and unable to move for a long long time, wiping their memories is pointless. And if we're going by what Willy said, the walls were set up first and then the memories of everyone in the walls were wiped, and wiping clean the consciousness of an entire civilisation will just make it fail so they would have been tweaked to forget the outside world is still alive not be turned into mindless dolls.
I genuinely still have no idea what you are trying to say here, but yes the Wall Titans would still be functional human beings that once they wake up will just be confused about how they got there, that's if they don't drown/freeze/burn to death before they wake up
Proof of how great this show is: 11 years after it started, we are still talking about it
you've got a little mixed up but you still got the spirit 👍🏼
You mean proof of how long it took them to finish the show? 😂
@sxeychick9622 lol animation takes soooo long those lazy animators!! Draw faster!!
So karl fritz turned more people into titans than he left inside the walls.
12:30 yeah I agree the first 10 minutes of the first Final chapter episode is also in my favourite scenes in all of fiction.
17:45 I love when people Praise AOT like this. This how I talk about AOT but no one around me watches it so I’m just talking to walls.
you know it's dire when people are relying entirely on headcanon to make the most important part of the worldbuilding sense
Bro I thought the wall titans were just made from the founder but no it’s gotta be attack on titan and very depressing
Can’t wait to hear this in the overanalyzation episode
"How do you even explain what AoT is about." is the problem that made me hate the series and not want to watch it for years. Everyone would always just say "It's a series about giant humanoid monsters that eat people and there's also cool fights." and I would always be like "That's it? Sounds kind of lame."
There really isn't a way to describe the story accurately without being super surface level, or being way too vague sounding like "It's about humanity" or whatever.
I’ve always explained it to people as “What if the Jews actually deserved it?”
@@VidelxSpopovich The way all the air in my lungs just left my body while reading that......(Tbh tho, I think early 1900's era Japan is maybe a better comparison. A secluded island nation where they are so ashamed of what they did that they have a complete 180 and lead people to believe they didn't do anything wrong, while their sister-nations on the mainline very much remember all the horrible atrocities they committed and are dead set on believing that they're "still monsters deep down". The real world correlations in AoT are meant to be flexible though)
@@dylanvscomics8138 You’ll have to be more specific. Japan has committed a lot of atrocities in the past. Though, honestly I think it’s easier to forgive them considering they were isolated for so long. I mean just imagine this, and I’m not joking. So you’re a nation of short people who generally look very similar to one another and then you’re borders get opened and you realize the rest of the world is on average a foot or more taller than most of your population and much stronger with far greater numbers. Yeah, you’re going to be a little racist and defensive about that I’d imagine.
@VidelxSpopovich still not really, paradis didn't deserve anything bad
@@Sand_WraithPL Uh yes they do. They tried to use their power to enslave people. Go watch the show again.
It would be really cool if iseyama made a quick one off story about a surviving wall titan and how they cope with the new world or something
I'm having so much trouble trying to explain AOT without spoiling it to my friends who aren't sure about watching it, feels like whatever I say will be a huge spoiler.
Why would the humans inside the titans be naked? 100+ years have destroyed their clothes?
Pretty sure they show clothes getting destroyed from being in the titans for long periods
@JakeYolk when? With Ymir?
@@randyflash2510 yeah actually she lost hers and i feel like they mentioned Piecks coming off when she was in titan form for a few months
Lowkey think im wrong ngl, mightve just been a discussion but i still think after a while clothes disappear, i dont think eren had his jacket on still when running to zeke before getting his head shot off
@@JakeYolk he did not have his Jacket on, but he had only transformed into a titan like couple of hours prior to this event, I am not sure that would be enough to destroy a whole Jacket, and also why just the Jacket and not the T-Shirt and pants??
Do you read fantasy books? It sounds like you would enjoy it alot. It scratches my itch for big fantasy worlds and stories that aot created. Stormlight archive for peak heroic fantasy (but the books are huge), and First Law for dark fantasy with the best made characters I have ever seen are my recomendations
Few things Kroto, love the new intro and style you a g. Second I always felt like they were always prisoners lowkey. Idk why but it doesn’t feel that far from Fritz the dumbo who decided the renounce of war to also deem a certain population “good” enough to keep everything going on. Along with that I am writing this at the time of like 5 minutes so you brought up the reclamation mission. It’s never been far fetched for unfair fates for the greater good.
One question in regards to the apparantly MILLIONS of Eldians that survived the Rumbling;
How did they not overpower the remainiing population in the world?
80% of the world population died
Most infrastructure is gone, except for tiny pockets, and Paradise.
If these Eldians joined Paradise...how the hell did they not outnumber and outpace the rest of the world in technology, population, and military might to the point where they wouldn't get blasted to what we see in the ending?
Also...where did they go? And how did they not starve right away?
Paradise isn't THAT massive of an island...if they suddenly got 20-50x the population, could they even feed them?
They probably did not long after a recovery era all over the world because not long after that we see Paradise experience peace for a while and then the war emerge over and over again probably because the hands of traitors.
So, with assuming that the total world population in AoT before the rumbling happens is around 2 billion (about the same as real life in the 1920s), 80% killed is 1.6 billion, leaving still 400 million alive vs Paradis.
@@VaasMontenegro12 But do we know the state of the nations they live(d) in after the rumbling?
Are they able to support themselves post rumbling?
@@VaasMontenegro12 But there's only one continent in this world, no? So you should count only Africa's population in 1920s.
@@Сайтамен No there is more, a couple times in the anime and manga some maps of the whole world are shown, and you can see that all the continents are pretty much there, just upside down and inverted.
Edit: ofc, some people did the math, and just the area within the walls is as big as Turkey, so the entirety of Paradis island is even much bigger than that, making it like, I think something like twice as big as the real life Madagascar? meaning that the entire world is also twice as big, but I just chalk that up to isayama not thinking about the math lol
16:27 you know what “what if” I want to see, “what if Erwin was chosen instead of Armin” but I want it done like how you are saying, not to be taken seriously and just to satisfy my curiosity
To see him eat Eren in liberio, or see Eren cry on his shoulder later?
The only thing that'd change is you get a bad ending. Eren doesn't see a hopeful future and wipes the world clean for the remaining Eldians to inevitably find a reason to kill each other, or Eren doesn't see a hopeful future so he just goes along with what everyone else says and Paradise probably gets savagely defeated by the world Alliance
Now what I want to see is what if Ymir didn't go with Reiner and Bertholdt. Saved them sure, but then returned with Historia and everyone else
search it on TH-cam, someone made a whole series about that
@ yeah but I want something official from Isayama because he’s the one that truly knows what the characters would do. Everything else is just speculation for the most part
There will always be more questions 💯 and the mystery is fun
I think perhaps there just weren't enough titains in history for the rambling, so they had to use people.
In fact perhaps it's not the world that bombs Shiganshina at the end, but the revenge of the former colossals who set up their own vengeful empire😅😅
But the Ackermanns survive 💪💪
My interpretation is that Eren never had full control. That's why the pure titans never revert to nornal. Character wise I see no reason for Eren not to revert Pixis and everyone to humans if he could. Especially considering the Eren edgelord is a facade. He still cared about everyone. As stated by Armin and Yelena, if Eren or Zeke had control, the pure titans would not have attacked them. It's really off. Plus in the final battle Armin states that the resistance is coming from Ymir, not Eren. For those reasons I think Ymir had control. Or at least Ymir mixed with Eren's mind and they became one. Still, everything is mainly due to Ymir. Plus the hallucigenia that transforms eldians into titans by its own will.
All of this is to let us have our own interpretation of who did what. Eren? Ymir? Hallucigenia?
Think about Eren's last words before becoming the founding titan with Ymir. He sympathises with her. Says he'll end this "world" actually refering to the curse Ymir has been through with the weight of Fritz's supremacism.
Eren is genuienly saddened by Ymir's long 2000 year wait.
Eren is sad. He holds her. Then Ymir shows her first emotion : anger.
Then Rumbling starts. It does feel like Ymir's anger makes more sense to be the Rumbling's trigger than Eren's saddness.
take a drink every time someone in the comments obviously hasn't watched the video
hold up, isayama was 19yo when he started AoT?????????
So you just pushed your own preference on the story and tried to be the correct one.
Why are you trying to insert some "wanted to be correct" here lmao, I never "pushed" anything, I literally said Isayama's explanation is the one that has a ton of evidence in support of it? The origin of the wall titans has been a talking point for years and the idea that they are not people is not even mine? 😂
I think if you've seen my other content, you'll know very well that I don't care about being right. This is a discussion where I just want to yap about things I find interesting. 🤷♂️
17:32 Can someone explain how the title of the show is a spoiler? (Without using an extreme reach in logic)
The Japanese title translates to Attack Titan not Attack on Titan
Episode 1's title is the only episode in the entire series that doesn't have an explanation until you get to the Ymir story... except for the little fact of Eren seeing the future RIGHT AFTER the title card.
I call it blatant spoiler for the giggles, obviously people won't jump to time-travel(y)-memory-magic right away, but at the same time, it is high-key insane to pull something that obvious.
@@JakeYolk not what the OP asked for. Japanese title implies both, it's a double meaning title. It can mean 'Advancing of Titans' or 'The Advancing Titan'
People assumed, it meant - Advancing of Titans, which was true for S1-S3, when Titans invaded them.
With reveal of the name of Eren's titan at end of S3 - it struck the same shock for japanese people too - now it started to mean 'The Advancing Titan'
@ yeah i realized that after
Am I the only one scared of Isayama J.K. Rowlingfying AOT
Every time this man adds something to the series the more it makes me hate the ending! He honestly just needs to say stuff like "it's in the story" when answering questions like this. Otherwise it's just frustrating to hear!
Eh I don't really feel it. I've not seen much he's "added" since but this all seems obvious and people with problems about it confuse me. It's not like he's pulling a J.K.Rowling where he's literally just adding whatever he feels like, it's more filling stuff he left out
i really like the ending, it really had to have been planned from the start
Dude the conversation with Ramzi is heartbreaking. Especially in combination with the focussed insanely gruesome death of Ramzi. Whenever people say Erens character was assassinated in the last movie because he has a mental breakdown. I always think of that conversation.
Kinda disappointed that you never realized that they are people
I'm personally disappointed in you
@ ok?
Like I said, it's not that I didn't realize, it was the obvious implication based on the lore, I just didn't think it was actually true 😂
I was surprised i was surprised too (you can even see my reply at 4:02 lol) but not dissapointed. No need to be rude to others bout it.
Kinda disappointed that they are people
I'm not gonna lie, I thought this interview wasn't real lol. Is it... actually real?
You dont explain it, you say it's a mystery with a conclusion.
the writer is always right
we cant calculate fiction things with our own logic
Not necessarily, Death of the Author and all that. That said in terms of lore, I would agree that the writer is indeed always right.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs I don't believe in the death of an author. the reason due to us never understanding someone enough to understand intentions when we die no one on earth would still ever know us truly