The best way to get better, other than a motorcycle training course, is to practice slow riding. At slow speeds, remember that a fist full of front brake makes the motorcycle fall down. Front brake at slow speeds while turning are the worst. Basically, when you come up to stop sign or light, just slow down as much as you can and go slow. You'll get better and better at it. Sharp switchbacks are hard for everyone. You have to remember to get in the right part of the road while remembering to get to a lower gear while slowing and it's just something that takes practice, so, practice the slow stuff on flat, unchallenging parts of the road, or, better, in an empty or empty part of a parking lot. You can add small turns at slow speeds later, when you feel good about going slow.
I know exactly how you feel . I’m 65 yrs old never rode a motorcycle until 60 . Riding a motorcycle is something I always wanted to do , so after I retired I decided to give it a try . Just like you I started with a smaller bike of course I dropped it a few times . I kept riding until I got comfortable enough to get on some major roads , nervous and scared as heck . But what worked for me I kept riding familiar roads near home . Roads , with curves , hills , roundabouts, etc. I would ride the same route 3 or 4 times a day . I finally conquered that route . I used that experience to ride anywhere . My first time on Skyline Dr. I was nervous , but I used my experience with familiar roads to handle it safely . I’ve been riding for 5 yrs now , not a great rider and my confidence has really grew . I also live in Maryland and ride a BMW 1200 RT . I say all this to say you are not alone . I lot of people won’t admit they feel some apprehension while riding . The more you ride the more comfortable you’ll get . Alway keep some level apprehension , that will keep you safe . 21:39
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Great video. I'm 58 and started at 54. The fears and worries do go away. There are local roads with turns that made my stomach hurt lol. The more you ride the easier it gets. Just, never become over confident. Good luck and stick with it!
We've all been there, we just don't like to admit it. It gets better. My first big touring bike scared the heck out of me. After 35 years of riding I felt like a newbie. At 58 a few Advil helps a lot on the long rides. Love Skyline Dr. Thanks for the video.
I commend you on documenting and sharing l your entire motorcycle journey, including the joy and anxiety you feel. I can assure you that you are not alone!!!😅😅
If you listen carefully you can hear the bike pop into neutral and that's why you dropped it. Not your fault! Also the fear will reduce with more practice keep your eyes down the road always be looking ahead for exit of the turn and never go faster than your comfortable.
Yes I've watched the video probably 40 times now and I agree, i truly believe it popped into neutral. A stall wouldn't make that particular sound. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Just follow the GS in front of you through the curves! Following an experienced rider who has your best interests in mind will allow you to get in the flow. Great lessons for every rider in your videos!
Well done to you for sharing this - including the spill. We’re ALL always learning. Pot of luck and a pot of experience. Fill one before the other runs empty. Also good to see the accommodation on a tour report as well. It’s all part of touring thanks again 💛
I drop my big top-heavy adventure bike once or twice a year. Usually at low speeds and starting on a sharp corner. Being fully loaded doesn't help, but its just part of the experience. At 68, I keep doing squats in the gym so I can keep picking up my drops. Hang in there and be safe.
I have been riding motorcycles since I was 16. I am now 57, and I have never dropped my bike.. It seems to me you don’t have a bike that fits you, properly.. My last bike was a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Nomad.. A heavy (!!) bike, made for highway roads, I would guess.. I also hated corners and curves..and that is supposed to be the most fun part of motorcycle riding.. Two weeks ago, I bought a BMW F850 GSA… And it’s a whole different riding experience!! Now curves and corners are FUN!! I’d say you test out a variety of bikes, and find one that fits you arm-wise and feet-wise.. And weight-wise.. And..did you get any training at all, before you got your license? On how to start corners, where to put yourself in the lane before, during and after the corner? I’m from Norway, and we are not allowed any license unless we have at least 20 hours with a traffic school.. 5 hours long distance driving, city driving, slow driving, emergency maneuvers/stops etc.. If you didn’t, I would take a course on how to do these things, then you get more confident as well 😉 I downsized from 1500 to a 850, it’s about 200 lbs lighter, but has more HP, so it’s MUCH faster.. But it seems it’s made for corners.. soo much easier and so much more fun!! Get the proper training, make sure the bike fits you and practice, practice, practice.. You’ll love it when you master it! Best of luck and keep the videos coming!! ( I never meant to be rude in any way, and if you think I was, I’m truly sorry..! English is not my native tongue.. ) Erik, Norway 🇳🇴
@erikherje3414 thanks for watching and commenting. I did take a class to get my license. I've been spending a lot of time since this trip practicing and I hope you all will see my progress!!! Thanks for tuning in from NORWAY! :)
Dropping the bike is a part of riding. Happens to all of us at one point or another. You got up, dusted yourself off and kept going. That's the important part! 🤘🏾👍🏽
That is most ridiculous propagated myth, from the big book of motorcycle myths, that dropping a bike is "part of it". The goal, and objective...is to not drop or crash these machines....maybe as a child in field on a minibike, but a grown adult dropping a 1 ton touring bike is a symptom of something seriously wrong with the rider skill. Simple as that.....the point being....sometimes the dusting off of a broken leg....isn't that simplistic or idealistic. Get real, and accept the true dangers of new riders riding over their skill level......
@greyfisher3897 Not trying to get into a debate with you on her channel, but simply put, everyone drops a bike sooner or later. You're right, the goal is to not drop or crash while riding, but it's also a part of the learning process. If she knows what went wrong, then now she'll remember (hopefully) and she won't make the same mistake again. As for new riders riding over their skill level, yes there are some idiots out there, but she doesn't seem to be neglectful and over riding her skills here. With practice comes more knowledge, and offering her some words of encouragement can also build her courage to keep riding and learning. That's what it's about, and not tearing someone down.
@@GlidingOnTwos I have to disagree with your general defensive response to my analysis. I am trying to get into a debate, for everyone's benefit, particularly the newbies. She was asking for an explanation, as she didn't know what happened. She got it, she stalled, and couldn't recover. On a road with a bike that weighs a ton. That is not OK, and not part of it. There is the idea that maybe...just maybe, she shouldn't be out riding..just yet, on a bike of that size and weight. She speaks with no confidence, and seems to have a lack of knowledge of the physics that are going on underneath her. She speaks of being scared, she speaks while riding, is distracted by her camera batteries...etc She is not concentrating enough. You simplify the learning from the mistake idea. So she learns that she stalled the bike, and caused it to fall lets say. So in the future she learns not to stall the bike...momentarily, but that is not going to help her "learn" as you say, to recover from that mistake. It is a whole different set of inherent skills that allow a rider to recover from that The fact that she is somewhat passive in her approach is not good. To recover from that type of stall you need to be quick on the gas, and quick on the throttle control to get the bike back up and moving forward before the lean takes your leg off....as she experienced. She is clearly riding over her skill level, and speaking about it while riding, so I am not sure how you missed that. If you think that my message is tearing someone down then you reaction is questionable in itself. I was an instructor for a decade of my life, and met all types of new riders in middle age...not a good combination. Instead of telling them that anybody can do this sport, I made it very clear that this is not for everybody, and to take it as seriously as you possibly can. So being a beginner and chatting away with You Tubers while riding down a public road, and telling everyone how you lack skill and confidence and ride in fear of corners, and twisties and all that...raises a very large red flag. I am not going to pussyfoot around the topic of injury. Not only did she fall, she injured herself bad enough. What ever she did to her shin, could have been a clean break, a little luck on her side. I am not going to encourage somebody to continue on with their foolhardy adventure, as if nothing is wrong. Note how she thanked me for my response. Motorcycling is not about others giving others encouragement...that injury consequences are that serious, and the skill level required is that high, and that reality needs to sink in with the You Tube newbie bikers crashing, crashing, hurting themselves, helicopter rescues etc etc. its an epidemic.
When we’re moving a heavy bike like ours, on slow speed maneuvers we must have all times the clutch engaged on the friction zone and you control the momentum of the bike adding or pulling out throttle. We have to work with both at the same times creating the necessary harmony to avoid that lack of inertia stability and the unpleasant outcome that is to feel the heavy weight of the machine which leads to drop of balance between the bike and the rider.
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Yes it’s necessary to have this exact state of mind of yours, be prepared to overcome the challenges, is the recipe to continuous improvement of our riding skills. More power to you!👌
When you see a corner that looks scary try to remember to exhales it relaxes your body - the worst thing is to tense up your arms - it’s not easy to relax when we are scared but try to exhale at corner entry it’s a lil trick that used tj work for me when I started .
Always look ahead (forward in the straight and to where the road disappears in the turn) and learn to push the bar in the direction of the turn (counter steering). Counter steering works like a magic and you'll gain confidence in no time. Keep on riding and take a few classes. BMW has an awesome on-road and off-road school in SC next to the Factory and the Museum. You can have lots of fun and learn from the pros. RT is a very forgiving bike because of the 17" front wheel. Even it goes down a few times, it is a fantastic bike to own and ride. Cheers.
My guesses from personal experience :o) ... 1) You grabbed the front brake - below 10 mpg you should only be using the rear 2) you were not in first gear 3) you did not preload the throttle and keep it loaded.
I had to double take when I heard you're a new rider on such a big bike. That's awesome and pretty inspiring for me, being a new rider myself. Mine only weighs about 179kg (394lbs) though. :D Great views up there. Cow and cemetery would be a really boring game here as there aren't many of either. :D
Thanks for the compliment. I actually don't know why people are surprised that I ride a big bike. You just have to be mindful at slow speeds so I feel like I learn faster because I have to be more careful. You'll be fine. Keep riding! Keep having fun! I can't imagine living somewhere with no cows. They are EVERYWHERE around me lol
@@melissasmotorcycleadventuresThe laws in some countries restrict new riders to smaller motorcycles for a certain period. I think it's a good practice but I heard stories about transitioning riders not realizing the vastly different throttle response.
Super video, Melissa. Don't sweat it, we've all done that at some point, as long as you're OK. As you again experience, all this will become easier and you'll go with the flow.. Keep riding and be patient. I loved the cruise control on my RT, that gave my right hand a break. Ride well. Cheers
I'm finally starting to use my cruise control to give my hand a break! I'm still too nervous to use it in even tiny curves though lol. I'm a big chicken...i don't show that very much in my videos lol thanks for watching and commenting!!
@melissasmotorcycleadventures Cruise control is not a great idea for curves unless they are long sweeping bends. On the twisties, you need to maintain throttle control. Cheers
@Moz42 well yeah that's what I meant :) I was on the highway yesterday and there were just those little bends and I just felt more comfortable not being on cruise control for those. I know I'll get there though. Seat time! :)
Hi, Sometimes, when you overthink anything, it becomes more difficult to do. Making sharp right or left turns from a dead stop isn't easy until you get in tune with your bike. My Harley took about a day to get used to it. Forward controls. But now it's totally natural for me. Thanks for the video.
Don't carry the trunk until you're comfortable on the bike. You're with your husband let him carry all the gear for your weekends away. If you can, don't carry luggage at all until you are comfortable on the bike. I ride a '16 RT and wouldn't recommend it to a nubie at all but hey you do you. Trust me about the luggage though, the RT is easy without the suitcases. Consider lower tire pressures and keeping your preload setting on rider without luggage.
Hmm, I think I understand what happened. This happens quite regularly with Big heavy BMW RT's. This is made worse with a complete set of bags and Top Box. You have to remember just how much weight that top box can hold. Add a full tank of gas and it is a drop waiting to happen. No, you are not alone. I rode bikes for 45 years, then stopped for 25 years. Then last year I Bought a 2023 R 1250 RT thinking all the years experience I had, I'd be OK. NOT. The best advice I would give you is to take things slow. You demonstrated the same tendency that I have. When pulling away from a stop, make sure the bike is vertical until you get rolling then turn in to your turn. Also, you must be committed to keeping the power on and release the clutch. Something I learned when racing dirt bikes, is that the way a motorcycles suspension works, is when the power is on. You get scared half way through a corner and pull on the clutch, the suspension will stop working and you go down. The only way to get out of that wobble is to apply the power. Anyway, hope this helps. OBTW, What BMW don't tell you is that an RT is NOT the best choice for a novice to learn on. The suspension on the front and the rear is spooky at best, and trust me I know at least a hundred of riders that say the same thing. I know we will get used to it, but due to my last tumble, I had to sit out the whole summer with the effects of a bad concussion. It is a year old, and I have a couple hundred miles on it. I also live in Virginia. Louisa to be exact.
Putting on the cramp buster would make anyone feel weird. I’ve tried them and don’t like them. If your hand is cramping there are a couple things to try. First, make sure the levers are set correctly. By that I mean in your normal riding position and your fingers resting on the levers you should be able to draw a straight line from your elbow to your finger tips. If you are not comfortable on the seat you may be compensating by grabbing the grips too tightly. I have used inflatable pads and mesh covers but I still prefer a sheepskin from Alaska Leather. You are not alone but not everyone reacts the same way. I have always loved tight curves. I started riding before I learned about danger. After a few hundred miles my back starts to hurt but I attribute that to being 68 years old. Tylenol is the best thing for me. You have a great bike! In 50+ years of riding and 60+ bikes my R1250RT is the absolute best! I recommend the Blue Ridge Parkway for getting comfortable on turns. The speed limit is 45 for most of it.
I did the same thing. Even at slow speed the weight of the bike causes what seems like not much forward force to become irresistible downward force with just a little brake.
Hey Melissa great video, looked like a fun ride. In regards to the drop, it looked like you had the clutch pulled in while trying to make that turn (disengaging the gear) and the sudden change in traction on the rear wheel caused you to lose confidence in the turn (so you looked down) and then the biked dropped. I had to slow the playback down to 0.5 in order to catch it. Just remember to ride your own ride and not be too concerned with speed or dropping your bike, these things happen. I know when I was first starting to ride one of the things that helped me was exuding confidence, and the more I believed in myself the better I rode. Maybe this little trick will help you out. Keep up the great work!
Thanks very much for watching so carefully!! I have been practicing A TON since this trip originally happened. Hopefully you will be proud of my accomplishments in my next videos 😂😊
When you where speaking of wearing earplugs I had thought of Jocelin Snow who teaches Off Road Riding Skills with her BMW 1250 GS. In her training she has what she calls ''The Blind Fold Test'' and that is what it is. Heightens the sense's. Just a short straight line for a few yards.
I have watched the drop several time. Best advice is exactly what you husband said "it's ok its all right" I see you are using several cameras. Go back and look at where you you are looking at as you let off the clutch. What I see and hear as you let off the clutch is you turning the handle bars and a clunk like you went to full right before you really get moving. Making a hard turn from a stop is difficult. Best thing I learned when taking a MC safety course after i had been riding for 20 years was to turn your head. As far as stalling the bike it doesn't cut off till after the drop. Keep it up your doing fine.
Thank you for all the advice and reviewing the video! I've also watched it soo many times. The bike bucks up a little which made me lose my balance or something. I still can't figure out why it bucked like that. Maybe I goosed it a bit. I dunno but I learned from it and that's the biggest take away. I now look more where I'm going (like you said) and I attempt when at all possible to go forward a little first. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have been riding off-and-on since the 90's and I have dropped mine quite a few times. Nothing serious except the time I slammed on the rear brake on wet tarmac and low-sided it. I was still new to the whole riding thing. Lost some skin on the left side of my body but didn't break any bones. As I gained experience I realized many of my mishaps may have been avoided by being mentally-prepared, look far ahead enough and be aware of the consequences of my actions. I can't do much about reckless drivers on the road but I stay out of harm's way as much as I can.
@TheanHooYew yup! You summed it up....look ahead! Once I really started working on looking ahead, riding became much easier! Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe
@@melissasmotorcycleadventuresI just got myself a GSA, a much larger and heavier motorcycle than my last. Even after riding for years, I consider myself a newbie as I have never ridden something this size. I would spend weekends practicing U-turns and figure eights in empty parking lots, doing low-speed manoeuvres with just the throttle and clutch.
@TheanHooYew this is actually going to be an upcoming video of mine. I get a lot of comments that my bike is too big for me. I started with a smaller bike and it was still a learning curve for me when I moved up in size. It's just physics and no matter your size...you gotta practice!
How are you doing after your drop? Hope you are over the fear. No, you are not alone. You will get better. Your wrist will get used to it. Aches and pains... yeah they are part of it. I am 68, And I have pain. At least you are still able to ride. I just saw my Doctor and he still will not let me ride my RT. The bike is 18 months old, and I only have 200 miles on it. The concussion is better, but still am wobbly. I looked at the video again. I believe your surprise may have gotten the better of you. I talked to my instructor about my fall, he told me two things. One, make clean shifts, keep the clutch in the friction zone and the gas ON. You let off the gas, pop out of gear etc., and the bike is in charge at that point and you will go down. Try doing some figure 8's to warm up before taking off on a ride. It should get you comfortable.
Yesterday, I started a physical therapy session that is designed to stop my stability issues. I am still unstable. I thought I was getting better, but she knew which exercise would bring bring out the dizziness, Well that opened my eyes to how bad I really was. I was disappointed to say the least. The good thing is that she said what is going on is that my neuropathy has disconnected my feet nerves from the brain. She said not to worry, she can fix that. Over half of the people they see have the same issue and they specialize in balance training, so hopefully by the end of summer I'll be back in the saddle. Good luck on your travels.
I would recommend a safety course. On turns and curves keep your head up and look and turn your head towards the end of the curve…the bike goes where you are looking. Even on U Turns I look behind me and that keeps the balance on your bike. Never look down at the road. That’s quite a large bike for a beginner.
Thanks for the suggestions! I did take a course and I rode a Himalayan for 8 months before being very unhappy with that bike and taking my husband's RT. I've improved quite a lot since this video was filmed :)
Great vid Mellisa, i have been riding a long time and still fall over turning mostly from stalling. Never seen a toilet like that here in Australia, i used to try leaning with the bike on corners but now find it easier to just lean the bike itself, leaning rite over is for the moto gp guys. Keep up the great wor.
Thanks for watching! My bike goes to neutral a lot in slow speeds. I don't know if it's the bike...or just silly me! But because it goes to neutral, I've had a few near drops since this video/trip. I need to get in a parking lot and just do some drills!
Been riding a few years now and I still get nervous with curves. Where I live is mostly flat straight rodes so I don't get much practice either. When we do get to curvy rodes my husband thinks its fun and gets way ahead of me on his bike. Planning on riding skyline drive this summer- wish me luck!
Don't feel embarrassed. You went down because you were not looking down the road past the turn towards where you wanted to end up rather you were looking at the ground towards your front wheel in the turn, your RPM's were too low, your clutch was not engaged. First rule of motorcycling, or automobiles, you only look where you want to go. If you look at the pavement during the turn, you will end up on the ground. You need to practice riding in the "grey power zone" feathering the clutch to control power to the wheel rather than using the throttle to adjust power the rear turn. I recommend you take an hour or two on a regular basis doing starts and stops with sharp turning left and right from a stop in a parking lot until you master the technique. Use the parking space striping as a gauge. Also practice starts and short braking to get the feel of the clutch. Oh did I mention I practice throughout the riding season in parking lots, especially after a long winter; plus I am also new to riding having started riding in the 1960's, currently own 3 big BMW's including an RT, and have averaged nearly 20K per year since I first started riding. I am new to riding because every ride is an opportunity to learn, refine and have fun. Long rides on highways does nothing to hone your skills - slow riding and parking lot practice makes you an experienced rider far faster.
Thank you very much for taking the time to write such a long and informative comment! Since this trip I have been practicing a LOT this exact suggestion! :)
Hey Melissa, I think the reason you dropped the bike on that RH turn at the lights was not enough gas and too sharp an angle on your steering! From the sound of your engine, I have the same bike; it seems like you were barely ticking over. It needed a bit more gas and to slip the clutch. Look where you want to end up and the bike with go there! Also, I noticed a few times that you were holding the clutch on long stretches of road. Let you hands relax and just hold the LH handle bar.. Like others have said, keep on practicing and you will get more comfortable and better.
Look we all started at zero, there is a I suggest a good MST course, look for it on your DMV we took the course you learn a lot of why the motorcycle stays up right and how to deal with curves. PS my wife too the course and she still needed time in the saddle be safe God Bless
Yup i took the course and spent many hours practicing in parking lots and neighborhoods before going out on roads/trips. Ultimately I just needed time in the saddle. It's been a while since this video and I'm doing much better now! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Looks like a fun ride. I think butterfiles are part of the fun. The more you ride the less you get them, but when they can still pop up from time to time. 2 Glad you are ok. Its funny how we constantly re evaluate those drops. Your doing it.
Your comment about butterflies is so true. I'm at back of the dragon and ride down I was really feeling great about curves. Then I hit back of the dragon and WOAH hit a couple curves that literally made my stomach turn lol. But instead of freaking out, I thought...this is fun!
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Thats a great road to practice on. There are overlooks with pullover guard rails. Add your stickers to the collections. The Visitor center is cool for any collectables your into. I do that ride every year. Fun times.
Courageous to be riding such a big bike as a new rider. If you wanna become a better rider more quickly get a lighter and less powerful bike. I think something like a CB500X would make you feel more confident. Its not slow and not fast. Much lighter, and with your long legs it would fit you fine. I once had a need for speed but once I started road racing I realized 100+ hp is unnecessary on the road. Cheers and keep up the great videos.
Your drop occured because you had the bike pop out if first gear. You can hear it come out. This is a rookie error. Always take off with your foot over the gear lever with pressure on it. It requirws you have your right foot on the ground when stopped but that is good practice anyway. If i can be blunt you are letting the bike dicate to you. You must be in control of it. You are the boss. Do a course the focuses on slow speed skill to build your confidence
I agree with you 100% Since this video I've been working a lot and I definitely have greatly improved not only my skills but my confidence. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The reason is that the speed was too low, the gyroscopic forces ware not activated and also motorcycle is quite heavy, 50 kg heavier than the RT before, but therefore enormously explosive and strong thanks to water cooling and a larger cubic capacity. Heavy bikes are unfortunately easy to drop. Once I saved my 300 kg Harley from dropping but I dislocated shoulder 😵💫. Hello from Croatia!
I enjoyed the video very much. First time watching your videos. Keep up the good work. As for the tip over, first not a big deal. Second, I'm pretty sure you shifted into neutral. I asume you put the bike into first then put your foot under the shift lever anticipating shifting up through the gears. When you began to move your toe came up ever so slightly and shifted the bike into neutral. Good job though.
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Melissa, you need to focus on the mistake you made.....the comments out there are not all correct...this is common in motorcycling....many myths and interpretations to confuse you, and make it worse. You simply failed to coordinate the clutch and throttle....you stalled momentarily. Stalling a bike of that tremendous size is a recipe for near disaster. You have take it seriously, the comment streams generally downplay these mistakes, and call it part of it. I have never dropped a bike in the middle of the road from a stall, in 40 years. But I have saved a bike from being dropped in a fall from a near stall, by reacting to what I know to be happening. I t all comes back to concentration and focus...which are not doing.......stop talking. Step away from the youtube element, and practice alone, and think and feel what is going on underneath you. I would seriously consider getting a smaller motorcycle considering your lack of skill and confidence at this point. This is serious, that thing will break your leg next time. Its all over you tube, not you, but others taking a trip to the hospital from simple consequence mistakes like yours....by the hundreds.
@ShiftnWolf72 I was TOTALLY this way!!! I just would drive 5 miles over my comfort zone...over and over and then I noticed I was ok. Then I'd drive 5 more miles over my comfort zone until I was ok. Now I'm comfortable up to 75. Above that I'm not comfortable yet.
To be honest, the bike is too big and powerful for a novice rider, especially one who has no confidence in their own ability. When you have conquered your fear of cornering, you WILL begin to enjoy biking so much more as cornering at decent speed is one of the most enjoyable parts of riding a motorcycle. You should think about getting some advanced riding lessons to improve your skills. Only then will you be able to start enjoying being a motorcyclist. Also you need to learn to RELAX while riding your bike; it's meant to be an enjoyable pastime. I'm leaving a link to a really great instructor who will show you lots of tips and tricks which will help you lots. The guy is European and you might find him difficult to understand his accent but you can click on the CC(Closed Captions) button. Good luck with your riding. Btw, my wife rides a bike too, she passed her riding test here in the UK when she was 40 and she still loves it now aged 67. I hope that gives you some confidence.
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures LOL, I just watched your most recent video. You know, the one where you stalled your bike more than once and I quote your own words "I keep stalling", then you go on to slow to 21mph to take corners that even an intermediate biker would tackle at 35-40mph, calling the corner "really tight". I'll stick with my initial opinion of your abilities on a motorbike, you need lessons before you either hurt yourself or another road user or pedestrian.
I love the fact that you want to ride. I am concerned about your safety. Just from watching you briefly... I don't think you are ready for a 1200. You mentioned you were not sure why you dropped the bike... but you actually did know. You had the clutch in. If you have a big bike like that leaning with no forward momentum... and pull the clutch in... the rear wheel has 0 force pushing it forward so down you will go. Do some parking lot training doing circles and figure 8's... with the clutch in the friction zone. When doing that... if you think the bike might tip over... let the clutch OUT... don't pull it in. I suspect that RT weighs 600-700 pounds. No way either of us are gonna keep that up with our legs. You need the clutch engaged enough to push forward.
This trip was over a month ago. Since then I've spent many hours practicing. I think my next videos you will be pleasantly surprised at my progress :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
Its a good idea to understand why you crashed, dropped the bike. I have a suggestion at the of this comment, as there really is only one thing that could have happened....rider error. Forget this idea your skills are going to magically slowly, or quickly, improve, it doesn't work that way, the skills required for these machines is extremely high, best to learn as a child, who practice on a closed course for hundreds of hours. Talking while riding is the first sign to me that you are not concentrating, and are not focused. You are figuring out there is a lot to know, an expert's skill level is 100's of times greater than your average beginner. Its not a beginner, intermediate, expert path in linear, its a rising rate. Any expert will tell you....turn off the camera, turn off the microphones, turn off the intercom. and focus.....become one with the bike.....be more confident in your thoughts. The conclusion that the bike was the problem in your crash is false. I think your bike momentarily had a lag in the throttle, typical of fuel injection, fly by wire throttles. That causes a brief stall (rear wheel brake), that may restart with the shear momentum of the bike, however it was enough to throw your enormous and overloaded bike off balance while going very slow. Due to your inexperience you were not able to react to this weight shift...bike is too heavy anyhow to save in most cases....but it shows you just how simple it is to drop a bike and break your leg....you don't even know what happened...when you really should. I hope this helps. Start with greater concentration levels.
You were turned to the right and leaning a little bit when you stopped so it's weight was already going that way and it fell. Bikes are weightless when totally vertical facing straight ahead. You also think too much, cornering should be a natural feeling, not something you need to mentally prepare for. Feel the bike. Twisty roads are the best. Why are you worried?
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Melissa. I am a veteran off road rider, and instructed for many years when I was a bit younger. I am interested in your video as it appears you need some pointers, to make it. I wrote for you so you can learn from your mistake. Bottom line, you can't afford to be making these mistakes while out riding on the road. I will describe that throttle lag I mentioned. It is more or less the same as not successfully coordinating your throttle and clutch release, the timing of those two controls mixed with eye position, body position, your feet being able to touch the ground, and the notion that the actual weight you are in control of.....well over 500lbs. Your knees and feet can not handle this weight, its all about concentration and balance. Once these things start going down, there is no saving them, you have to get away from the machine, or be crushed. Watch closely and listen....there was a brief stall, then a brief restart before you fell. You instinctively pulled in the clutch, when what you really needed to do was increase the throttle, and work the contol/clutch to get some forward action going. To keep a bike up in those moments, you need to quickly accelerate. This is a fine example of the high skill you need to recover from your initial mistake. Essentially, you can't be making this mistake, unless you the ability to recover from it, which you don't, and that would take a long time to get that level of instinctive reaction time, and skill.etc. Listening to you speak while riding....make me cringe...you have to concentrate more, and talking about how uncertain you are with what you are doing, seems incongruous, because it is. The fact that you ride with your husband, believe it or not, actually increases your risk of making mistakes. Focus, and lack of distraction...which includes riding with others, are key......key points to adopt.
I hav your bike a 2015 rt n same color. My 2nd rt n near 100k on RTs. Best bike made. I think u bike has shift assist or shift pro. So when u pull out n lift u left 🎉foot onto peg, if u touch shifter it will shift into 2nd gear u lose power stearin is turned n u go DOWN. Get used to lifting foot up on the outside half of the FOOT PEG ,N don’t touch the shift peg. I’m 73 n hav a couple million miles shifting trucks cars cycles, i had Asheville bmw turn the shift pro OFF. I live n the Smokey mountainsI’m smooth as butter use in the clutch n lady u r ridein one of thee most technical bikes made n u scared of it. U need to get a 500cc standard 300lb bike n get u 3 or 4k miles experience. The RT is for very experienced ridersn it doesn’t sound lik u there yet. YOUR SCARED OF THE TWISTYS, N I LOV THE TWISTYS..
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The best way to get better, other than a motorcycle training course, is to practice slow riding.
At slow speeds, remember that a fist full of front brake makes the motorcycle fall down.
Front brake at slow speeds while turning are the worst.
Basically, when you come up to stop sign or light, just slow down as much as you can and go slow. You'll get better and better at it.
Sharp switchbacks are hard for everyone. You have to remember to get in the right part of the road while remembering to get to a lower gear while slowing and it's just something that takes practice, so, practice the slow stuff on flat, unchallenging parts of the road, or, better, in an empty or empty part of a parking lot. You can add small turns at slow speeds later, when you feel good about going slow.
I know exactly how you feel . I’m 65 yrs old never rode a motorcycle until 60 . Riding a motorcycle is something I always wanted to do , so after I retired I decided to give it a try . Just like you I started with a smaller bike of course I dropped it a few times . I kept riding until I got comfortable enough to get on some major roads , nervous and scared as heck . But what worked for me I kept riding familiar roads near home . Roads , with curves , hills , roundabouts, etc. I would ride the same route 3 or 4 times a day . I finally conquered that route . I used that experience to ride anywhere . My first time on Skyline Dr. I was nervous , but I used my experience with familiar roads to handle it safely . I’ve been riding for 5 yrs now , not a great rider and my confidence has really grew . I also live in Maryland and ride a BMW 1200 RT . I say all this to say you are not alone . I lot of people won’t admit they feel some apprehension while riding . The more you ride the more comfortable you’ll get . Alway keep some level apprehension , that will keep you safe . 21:39
Thank you for sharing your journey and experience!!! It's so nice to know I'm not alone :) and hey, maybe we could arrange a Maryland RT meet up!!
I would love that , I live near Bob’s Motorcycles next time you come there let me know .
@geeman1492 hey there!! I'll be at Bob's Saturday for their 100th anniversary party. Send me an email melmotoadv@gmail.com or message on fb or Instagram for coordinating! I'm hoping to be there around 10:30 or 11
Great video. I'm 58 and started at 54. The fears and worries do go away. There are local roads with turns that made my stomach hurt lol. The more you ride the easier it gets. Just, never become over confident. Good luck and stick with it!
Thanks for the support!!!
We've all been there, we just don't like to admit it. It gets better. My first big touring bike scared the heck out of me. After 35 years of riding I felt like a newbie. At 58 a few Advil helps a lot on the long rides. Love Skyline Dr. Thanks for the video.
I've definitely gotten MUCH better since this video!! :)
I commend you on documenting and sharing l your entire motorcycle journey, including the joy and anxiety you feel. I can assure you that you are not alone!!!😅😅
@rjsalameh Thanks so much! I'm happy to know I'm not alone!! Thanks for commenting and watching:)
If you listen carefully you can hear the bike pop into neutral and that's why you dropped it. Not your fault! Also the fear will reduce with more practice keep your eyes down the road always be looking ahead for exit of the turn and never go faster than your comfortable.
Yes I've watched the video probably 40 times now and I agree, i truly believe it popped into neutral. A stall wouldn't make that particular sound. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Just follow the GS in front of you through the curves! Following an experienced rider who has your best interests in mind will allow you to get in the flow. Great lessons for every rider in your videos!
I'm embarrassed to say this..but it never occurred to me to follow his line!!! What great advice 😂😂 Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Well done to you for sharing this - including the spill. We’re ALL always learning. Pot of luck and a pot of experience. Fill one before the other runs empty. Also good to see the accommodation on a tour report as well. It’s all part of touring thanks again 💛
Thanks so much for following and the words of encouragement!!
I drop my big top-heavy adventure bike once or twice a year. Usually at low speeds and starting on a sharp corner. Being fully loaded doesn't help, but its just part of the experience. At 68, I keep doing squats in the gym so I can keep picking up my drops. Hang in there and be safe.
I started working out again. I've noticed a difference in my core already. Thanks for the support and watching!!
I have been riding motorcycles since I was 16. I am now 57, and I have never dropped my bike.. It seems to me you don’t have a bike that fits you, properly.. My last bike was a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Nomad.. A heavy (!!) bike, made for highway roads, I would guess.. I also hated corners and curves..and that is supposed to be the most fun part of motorcycle riding.. Two weeks ago, I bought a BMW F850 GSA… And it’s a whole different riding experience!! Now curves and corners are FUN!! I’d say you test out a variety of bikes, and find one that fits you arm-wise and feet-wise.. And weight-wise.. And..did you get any training at all, before you got your license? On how to start corners, where to put yourself in the lane before, during and after the corner? I’m from Norway, and we are not allowed any license unless we have at least 20 hours with a traffic school.. 5 hours long distance driving, city driving, slow driving, emergency maneuvers/stops etc.. If you didn’t, I would take a course on how to do these things, then you get more confident as well 😉 I downsized from 1500 to a 850, it’s about 200 lbs lighter, but has more HP, so it’s MUCH faster.. But it seems it’s made for corners.. soo much easier and so much more fun!! Get the proper training, make sure the bike fits you and practice, practice, practice.. You’ll love it when you master it! Best of luck and keep the videos coming!! ( I never meant to be rude in any way, and if you think I was, I’m truly sorry..! English is not my native tongue.. ) Erik, Norway 🇳🇴
@erikherje3414 thanks for watching and commenting. I did take a class to get my license. I've been spending a lot of time since this trip practicing and I hope you all will see my progress!!! Thanks for tuning in from NORWAY! :)
Dropping the bike is a part of riding. Happens to all of us at one point or another. You got up, dusted yourself off and kept going. That's the important part! 🤘🏾👍🏽
Thanks for the words of encouragement and thanks for watching!
That is most ridiculous propagated myth, from the big book of motorcycle myths, that dropping a bike is "part of it". The goal, and objective...is to not drop or crash these machines....maybe as a child in field on a minibike, but a grown adult dropping a 1 ton touring bike is a symptom of something seriously wrong with the rider skill. Simple as that.....the point being....sometimes the dusting off of a broken leg....isn't that simplistic or idealistic. Get real, and accept the true dangers of new riders riding over their skill level......
@greyfisher3897 Not trying to get into a debate with you on her channel, but simply put, everyone drops a bike sooner or later. You're right, the goal is to not drop or crash while riding, but it's also a part of the learning process. If she knows what went wrong, then now she'll remember (hopefully) and she won't make the same mistake again. As for new riders riding over their skill level, yes there are some idiots out there, but she doesn't seem to be neglectful and over riding her skills here. With practice comes more knowledge, and offering her some words of encouragement can also build her courage to keep riding and learning. That's what it's about, and not tearing someone down.
@GlidingOnTwos this is the nicest reply I've ever seen!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@GlidingOnTwos I have to disagree with your general defensive response to my analysis. I am trying to get into a debate, for everyone's benefit, particularly the newbies. She was asking for an explanation, as she didn't know what happened. She got it, she stalled, and couldn't recover. On a road with a bike that weighs a ton. That is not OK, and not part of it. There is the idea that maybe...just maybe, she shouldn't be out riding..just yet, on a bike of that size and weight. She speaks with no confidence, and seems to have a lack of knowledge of the physics that are going on underneath her. She speaks of being scared, she speaks while riding, is distracted by her camera batteries...etc She is not concentrating enough. You simplify the learning from the mistake idea. So she learns that she stalled the bike, and caused it to fall lets say. So in the future she learns not to stall the bike...momentarily, but that is not going to help her "learn" as you say, to recover from that mistake. It is a whole different set of inherent skills that allow a rider to recover from that The fact that she is somewhat passive in her approach is not good. To recover from that type of stall you need to be quick on the gas, and quick on the throttle control to get the bike back up and moving forward before the lean takes your leg off....as she experienced. She is clearly riding over her skill level, and speaking about it while riding, so I am not sure how you missed that. If you think that my message is tearing someone down then you reaction is questionable in itself. I was an instructor for a decade of my life, and met all types of new riders in middle age...not a good combination. Instead of telling them that anybody can do this sport, I made it very clear that this is not for everybody, and to take it as seriously as you possibly can. So being a beginner and chatting away with You Tubers while riding down a public road, and telling everyone how you lack skill and confidence and ride in fear of corners, and twisties and all that...raises a very large red flag. I am not going to pussyfoot around the topic of injury. Not only did she fall, she injured herself bad enough. What ever she did to her shin, could have been a clean break, a little luck on her side. I am not going to encourage somebody to continue on with their foolhardy adventure, as if nothing is wrong. Note how she thanked me for my response. Motorcycling is not about others giving others encouragement...that injury consequences are that serious, and the skill level required is that high, and that reality needs to sink in with the You Tube newbie bikers crashing, crashing, hurting themselves, helicopter rescues etc etc. its an epidemic.
When we’re moving a heavy bike like ours, on slow speed maneuvers we must have all times the clutch engaged on the friction zone and you control the momentum of the bike adding or pulling out throttle. We have to work with both at the same times creating the necessary harmony to avoid that lack of inertia stability and the unpleasant outcome that is to feel the heavy weight of the machine which leads to drop of balance between the bike and the rider.
So true! I've started practicing my slow speed skills in parking lots to get better! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Yes it’s necessary to have this exact state of mind of yours, be prepared to overcome the challenges, is the recipe to continuous improvement of our riding skills. More power to you!👌
I think you are doing fine. At least, you are out riding and enjoying the beautiful scenery.
Thank you!! I'm definitely getting more confident everyday :)
When you see a corner that looks scary try to remember to exhales it relaxes your body - the worst thing is to tense up your arms - it’s not easy to relax when we are scared but try to exhale at corner entry it’s a lil trick that used tj work for me when I started .
Such great advice!! I actually changed my mind set this weekend and noticed a huge difference. Thank you!!
Always look ahead (forward in the straight and to where the road disappears in the turn) and learn to push the bar in the direction of the turn (counter steering). Counter steering works like a magic and you'll gain confidence in no time. Keep on riding and take a few classes. BMW has an awesome on-road and off-road school in SC next to the Factory and the Museum. You can have lots of fun and learn from the pros. RT is a very forgiving bike because of the 17" front wheel. Even it goes down a few times, it is a fantastic bike to own and ride. Cheers.
Thanks and I've just started looking at their classes. I think that would be REALLY fun!
My guesses from personal experience :o) ... 1) You grabbed the front brake - below 10 mpg you should only be using the rear 2) you were not in first gear 3) you did not preload the throttle and keep it loaded.
Thanks for watching and commenting :) I've been working on my slow speed skills to hopefully prevent this in the future!
This Channel helped me a lot to improve ---> www.youtube.com/@BeTheBossOfYourMotorcycle/videos
I had to double take when I heard you're a new rider on such a big bike. That's awesome and pretty inspiring for me, being a new rider myself. Mine only weighs about 179kg (394lbs) though. :D Great views up there. Cow and cemetery would be a really boring game here as there aren't many of either. :D
Thanks for the compliment. I actually don't know why people are surprised that I ride a big bike. You just have to be mindful at slow speeds so I feel like I learn faster because I have to be more careful. You'll be fine. Keep riding! Keep having fun! I can't imagine living somewhere with no cows. They are EVERYWHERE around me lol
@@melissasmotorcycleadventuresThe laws in some countries restrict new riders to smaller motorcycles for a certain period. I think it's a good practice but I heard stories about transitioning riders not realizing the vastly different throttle response.
Super video, Melissa. Don't sweat it, we've all done that at some point, as long as you're OK. As you again experience, all this will become easier and you'll go with the flow.. Keep riding and be patient. I loved the cruise control on my RT, that gave my right hand a break. Ride well. Cheers
I'm finally starting to use my cruise control to give my hand a break! I'm still too nervous to use it in even tiny curves though lol. I'm a big chicken...i don't show that very much in my videos lol thanks for watching and commenting!!
@melissasmotorcycleadventures Cruise control is not a great idea for curves unless they are long sweeping bends. On the twisties, you need to maintain throttle control. Cheers
@Moz42 well yeah that's what I meant :) I was on the highway yesterday and there were just those little bends and I just felt more comfortable not being on cruise control for those. I know I'll get there though. Seat time! :)
Hi, Sometimes, when you overthink anything, it becomes more difficult to do. Making sharp right or left turns from a dead stop isn't easy until you get in tune with your bike. My Harley took about a day to get used to it. Forward controls. But now it's totally natural for me. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching! Forward controls?? Knowing me that would take forever to get used to lol
Don't carry the trunk until you're comfortable on the bike. You're with your husband let him carry all the gear for your weekends away. If you can, don't carry luggage at all until you are comfortable on the bike. I ride a '16 RT and wouldn't recommend it to a nubie at all but hey you do you. Trust me about the luggage though, the RT is easy without the suitcases. Consider lower tire pressures and keeping your preload setting on rider without luggage.
Thanks for the advice :) I love the RT! Glad to hear you have one too
it’s early 30 am and you’re working hard putting out vids!!!! love it!
Haha...it was scheduled to post, don't be too impressed!
Hmm, I think I understand what happened. This happens quite regularly with Big heavy BMW RT's. This is made worse with a complete set of bags and Top Box. You have to remember just how much weight that top box can hold. Add a full tank of gas and it is a drop waiting to happen. No, you are not alone. I rode bikes for 45 years, then stopped for 25 years. Then last year I Bought a 2023 R 1250 RT thinking all the years experience I had, I'd be OK. NOT. The best advice I would give you is to take things slow. You demonstrated the same tendency that I have. When pulling away from a stop, make sure the bike is vertical until you get rolling then turn in to your turn. Also, you must be committed to keeping the power on and release the clutch. Something I learned when racing dirt bikes, is that the way a motorcycles suspension works, is when the power is on. You get scared half way through a corner and pull on the clutch, the suspension will stop working and you go down. The only way to get out of that wobble is to apply the power. Anyway, hope this helps. OBTW, What BMW don't tell you is that an RT is NOT the best choice for a novice to learn on. The suspension on the front and the rear is spooky at best, and trust me I know at least a hundred of riders that say the same thing. I know we will get used to it, but due to my last tumble, I had to sit out the whole summer with the effects of a bad concussion. It is a year old, and I have a couple hundred miles on it. I also live in Virginia. Louisa to be exact.
Ugh! Very sorry to hear you got a concussion. I hope you get better soon!
Putting on the cramp buster would make anyone feel weird. I’ve tried them and don’t like them. If your hand is cramping there are a couple things to try. First, make sure the levers are set correctly. By that I mean in your normal riding position and your fingers resting on the levers you should be able to draw a straight line from your elbow to your finger tips.
If you are not comfortable on the seat you may be compensating by grabbing the grips too tightly. I have used inflatable pads and mesh covers but I still prefer a sheepskin from Alaska Leather.
You are not alone but not everyone reacts the same way. I have always loved tight curves. I started riding before I learned about danger.
After a few hundred miles my back starts to hurt but I attribute that to being 68 years old. Tylenol is the best thing for me.
You have a great bike! In 50+ years of riding and 60+ bikes my R1250RT is the absolute best!
I recommend the Blue Ridge Parkway for getting comfortable on turns. The speed limit is 45 for most of it.
Thanks for all the great tips!! I may try that alaska seat!
wow! i’ve ridden the BRP, and want to ride skyline dr. it looks beautiful. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!!
I did the same thing. Even at slow speed the weight of the bike causes what seems like not much forward force to become irresistible downward force with just a little brake.
Thanks gravity 🤣🤣
Hey Melissa great video, looked like a fun ride. In regards to the drop, it looked like you had the clutch pulled in while trying to make that turn (disengaging the gear) and the sudden change in traction on the rear wheel caused you to lose confidence in the turn (so you looked down) and then the biked dropped. I had to slow the playback down to 0.5 in order to catch it. Just remember to ride your own ride and not be too concerned with speed or dropping your bike, these things happen. I know when I was first starting to ride one of the things that helped me was exuding confidence, and the more I believed in myself the better I rode. Maybe this little trick will help you out. Keep up the great work!
Thanks very much for watching so carefully!! I have been practicing A TON since this trip originally happened. Hopefully you will be proud of my accomplishments in my next videos 😂😊
When you where speaking of wearing earplugs I had thought of Jocelin Snow who teaches Off Road Riding Skills with her BMW 1250 GS. In her training she has what she calls ''The Blind Fold Test'' and that is what it is. Heightens the sense's. Just a short straight line for a few yards.
Very interesting thought and perspective! I won't look on the negative side and think of it as heightening my awareness instead. Thank you!
I have watched the drop several time. Best advice is exactly what you husband said "it's ok its all right" I see you are using several cameras. Go back and look at where you you are looking at as you let off the clutch. What I see and hear as you let off the clutch is you turning the handle bars and a clunk like you went to full right before you really get moving. Making a hard turn from a stop is difficult. Best thing I learned when taking a MC safety course after i had been riding for 20 years was to turn your head. As far as stalling the bike it doesn't cut off till after the drop. Keep it up your doing fine.
Thank you for all the advice and reviewing the video! I've also watched it soo many times. The bike bucks up a little which made me lose my balance or something. I still can't figure out why it bucked like that. Maybe I goosed it a bit. I dunno but I learned from it and that's the biggest take away. I now look more where I'm going (like you said) and I attempt when at all possible to go forward a little first. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have been riding off-and-on since the 90's and I have dropped mine quite a few times. Nothing serious except the time I slammed on the rear brake on wet tarmac and low-sided it. I was still new to the whole riding thing. Lost some skin on the left side of my body but didn't break any bones. As I gained experience I realized many of my mishaps may have been avoided by being mentally-prepared, look far ahead enough and be aware of the consequences of my actions. I can't do much about reckless drivers on the road but I stay out of harm's way as much as I can.
@TheanHooYew yup! You summed it up....look ahead! Once I really started working on looking ahead, riding became much easier! Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe
@@melissasmotorcycleadventuresI just got myself a GSA, a much larger and heavier motorcycle than my last. Even after riding for years, I consider myself a newbie as I have never ridden something this size. I would spend weekends practicing U-turns and figure eights in empty parking lots, doing low-speed manoeuvres with just the throttle and clutch.
@TheanHooYew this is actually going to be an upcoming video of mine. I get a lot of comments that my bike is too big for me. I started with a smaller bike and it was still a learning curve for me when I moved up in size. It's just physics and no matter your size...you gotta practice!
How are you doing after your drop? Hope you are over the fear. No, you are not alone. You will get better. Your wrist will get used to it. Aches and pains... yeah they are part of it. I am 68, And I have pain. At least you are still able to ride. I just saw my Doctor and he still will not let me ride my RT. The bike is 18 months old, and I only have 200 miles on it. The concussion is better, but still am wobbly. I looked at the video again. I believe your surprise may have gotten the better of you. I talked to my instructor about my fall, he told me two things. One, make clean shifts, keep the clutch in the friction zone and the gas ON. You let off the gas, pop out of gear etc., and the bike is in charge at that point and you will go down. Try doing some figure 8's to warm up before taking off on a ride. It should get you comfortable.
Yesterday, I started a physical therapy session that is designed to stop my stability issues. I am still unstable. I thought I was getting better, but she knew which exercise would bring bring out the dizziness, Well that opened my eyes to how bad I really was. I was disappointed to say the least. The good thing is that she said what is going on is that my neuropathy has disconnected my feet nerves from the brain. She said not to worry, she can fix that. Over half of the people they see have the same issue and they specialize in balance training, so hopefully by the end of summer I'll be back in the saddle. Good luck on your travels.
I would recommend a safety course. On turns and curves keep your head up and look and turn your head towards the end of the curve…the bike goes where you are looking. Even on U Turns I look behind me and that keeps the balance on your bike. Never look down at the road. That’s quite a large bike for a beginner.
Thanks for the suggestions! I did take a course and I rode a Himalayan for 8 months before being very unhappy with that bike and taking my husband's RT. I've improved quite a lot since this video was filmed :)
Great vid Mellisa, i have been riding a long time and still fall over turning mostly from stalling. Never seen a toilet like that here in Australia, i used to try leaning with the bike on corners but now find it easier to just lean the bike itself, leaning rite over is for the moto gp guys. Keep up the great wor.
Thanks for watching! My bike goes to neutral a lot in slow speeds. I don't know if it's the bike...or just silly me! But because it goes to neutral, I've had a few near drops since this video/trip. I need to get in a parking lot and just do some drills!
Been riding a few years now and I still get nervous with curves. Where I live is mostly flat straight rodes so I don't get much practice either. When we do get to curvy rodes my husband thinks its fun and gets way ahead of me on his bike. Planning on riding skyline drive this summer- wish me luck!
You'll love Skyline and the speed is 35 mph so plenty of easy practice!!! Keep up the good work :)
Don't feel embarrassed. You went down because you were not looking down the road past the turn towards where you wanted to end up rather you were looking at the ground towards your front wheel in the turn, your RPM's were too low, your clutch was not engaged. First rule of motorcycling, or automobiles, you only look where you want to go. If you look at the pavement during the turn, you will end up on the ground. You need to practice riding in the "grey power zone" feathering the clutch to control power to the wheel rather than using the throttle to adjust power the rear turn. I recommend you take an hour or two on a regular basis doing starts and stops with sharp turning left and right from a stop in a parking lot until you master the technique. Use the parking space striping as a gauge. Also practice starts and short braking to get the feel of the clutch. Oh did I mention I practice throughout the riding season in parking lots, especially after a long winter; plus I am also new to riding having started riding in the 1960's, currently own 3 big BMW's including an RT, and have averaged nearly 20K per year since I first started riding. I am new to riding because every ride is an opportunity to learn, refine and have fun. Long rides on highways does nothing to hone your skills - slow riding and parking lot practice makes you an experienced rider far faster.
Thank you very much for taking the time to write such a long and informative comment! Since this trip I have been practicing a LOT this exact suggestion! :)
Hey Melissa, I think the reason you dropped the bike on that RH turn at the lights was not enough gas and too sharp an angle on your steering! From the sound of your engine, I have the same bike; it seems like you were barely ticking over.
It needed a bit more gas and to slip the clutch. Look where you want to end up and the bike with go there!
Also, I noticed a few times that you were holding the clutch on long stretches of road. Let you hands relax and just hold the LH handle bar.. Like others have said, keep on practicing and you will get more comfortable and better.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!! I appreciate the advice and I've been working very hard since this trip to improve my skills :)
Beautiful area. Love it there.
It really is!
Look we all started at zero, there is a I suggest a good MST course, look for it on your DMV we took the course you learn a lot of why the motorcycle stays up right and how to deal with curves. PS my wife too the course and she still needed time in the saddle be safe God Bless
Yup i took the course and spent many hours practicing in parking lots and neighborhoods before going out on roads/trips. Ultimately I just needed time in the saddle. It's been a while since this video and I'm doing much better now! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I'm not a fan of gravel myself. Dropping the bike is part of the journey sometimes. Safe travels and GOD bless.
Yeah, I think the only ppl that like gravel are dirt bike riders haha. Thanks for watching!
What the journey to the hospital?
Looks like a fun ride. I think butterfiles are part of the fun. The more you ride the less you get them, but when they can still pop up from time to time. 2 Glad you are ok. Its funny how we constantly re evaluate those drops. Your doing it.
Your comment about butterflies is so true. I'm at back of the dragon and ride down I was really feeling great about curves. Then I hit back of the dragon and WOAH hit a couple curves that literally made my stomach turn lol. But instead of freaking out, I thought...this is fun!
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Thats a great road to practice on. There are overlooks with pullover guard rails. Add your stickers to the collections. The Visitor center is cool for any collectables your into. I do that ride every year. Fun times.
Courageous to be riding such a big bike as a new rider. If you wanna become a better rider more quickly get a lighter and less powerful bike. I think something like a CB500X would make you feel more confident. Its not slow and not fast. Much lighter, and with your long legs it would fit you fine. I once had a need for speed but once I started road racing I realized 100+ hp is unnecessary on the road. Cheers and keep up the great videos.
Your drop occured because you had the bike pop out if first gear. You can hear it come out. This is a rookie error. Always take off with your foot over the gear lever with pressure on it. It requirws you have your right foot on the ground when stopped but that is good practice anyway. If i can be blunt you are letting the bike dicate to you. You must be in control of it. You are the boss. Do a course the focuses on slow speed skill to build your confidence
I agree with you 100% Since this video I've been working a lot and I definitely have greatly improved not only my skills but my confidence. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The reason is that the speed was too low, the gyroscopic forces ware not activated and also motorcycle is quite heavy, 50 kg heavier than the RT before, but therefore enormously explosive and strong thanks to water cooling and a larger cubic capacity.
Heavy bikes are unfortunately easy to drop. Once I saved my 300 kg Harley from dropping but I dislocated shoulder 😵💫.
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Ugh! I'm sorry that happened to you!!! Thanks for watching and ride safe!
I enjoyed the video very much. First time watching your videos. Keep up the good work. As for the tip over, first not a big deal. Second, I'm pretty sure you shifted into neutral. I asume you put the bike into first then put your foot under the shift lever anticipating shifting up through the gears. When you began to move your toe came up ever so slightly and shifted the bike into neutral. Good job though.
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@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Melissa, you need to focus on the mistake you made.....the comments out there are not all correct...this is common in motorcycling....many myths and interpretations to confuse you, and make it worse. You simply failed to coordinate the clutch and throttle....you stalled momentarily. Stalling a bike of that tremendous size is a recipe for near disaster. You have take it seriously, the comment streams generally downplay these mistakes, and call it part of it. I have never dropped a bike in the middle of the road from a stall, in 40 years. But I have saved a bike from being dropped in a fall from a near stall, by reacting to what I know to be happening. I t all comes back to concentration and focus...which are not doing.......stop talking. Step away from the youtube element, and practice alone, and think and feel what is going on underneath you. I would seriously consider getting a smaller motorcycle considering your lack of skill and confidence at this point. This is serious, that thing will break your leg next time. Its all over you tube, not you, but others taking a trip to the hospital from simple consequence mistakes like yours....by the hundreds.
Been riding 5 years and I am still afraid to ride on the highway which limits how much I can ride and where. I have almost given up.
What about riding on the highway scares you? The cars? The trucks? Everything?
the speed, I am not a speed freak, I even ride a cruiser. But over 50 just seems so fast. The traffic does not help lol.
@ShiftnWolf72 I was TOTALLY this way!!! I just would drive 5 miles over my comfort zone...over and over and then I noticed I was ok. Then I'd drive 5 more miles over my comfort zone until I was ok. Now I'm comfortable up to 75. Above that I'm not comfortable yet.
I recently approached some people I know who ride and asked them to help, Now if winter could just come and go quick lo
also 75 seems like all ya need right? :)
shhhhhhh The bike is sleepin. For less cramping start doing grip strength and to help with that
I'll keep my comments clean lol. Sound advice ;)
To be honest, the bike is too big and powerful for a novice rider, especially one who has no confidence in their own ability. When you have conquered your fear of cornering, you WILL begin to enjoy biking so much more as cornering at decent speed is one of the most enjoyable parts of riding a motorcycle. You should think about getting some advanced riding lessons to improve your skills. Only then will you be able to start enjoying being a motorcyclist. Also you need to learn to RELAX while riding your bike; it's meant to be an enjoyable pastime. I'm leaving a link to a really great instructor who will show you lots of tips and tricks which will help you lots. The guy is European and you might find him difficult to understand his accent but you can click on the CC(Closed Captions) button. Good luck with your riding. Btw, my wife rides a bike too, she passed her riding test here in the UK when she was 40 and she still loves it now aged 67. I hope that gives you some confidence.
Thanks for your opinion. You should watch my newer videos :)
@@melissasmotorcycleadventures LOL, I just watched your most recent video. You know, the one where you stalled your bike more than once and I quote your own words "I keep stalling", then you go on to slow to 21mph to take corners that even an intermediate biker would tackle at 35-40mph, calling the corner "really tight". I'll stick with my initial opinion of your abilities on a motorbike, you need lessons before you either hurt yourself or another road user or pedestrian.
@@AlSnoopsReid thanks for your opinion and watching :)
I love the fact that you want to ride. I am concerned about your safety. Just from watching you briefly... I don't think you are ready for a 1200. You mentioned you were not sure why you dropped the bike... but you actually did know. You had the clutch in. If you have a big bike like that leaning with no forward momentum... and pull the clutch in... the rear wheel has 0 force pushing it forward so down you will go. Do some parking lot training doing circles and figure 8's... with the clutch in the friction zone. When doing that... if you think the bike might tip over... let the clutch OUT... don't pull it in. I suspect that RT weighs 600-700 pounds. No way either of us are gonna keep that up with our legs. You need the clutch engaged enough to push forward.
This trip was over a month ago. Since then I've spent many hours practicing. I think my next videos you will be pleasantly surprised at my progress :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
Its a good idea to understand why you crashed, dropped the bike. I have a suggestion at the of this comment, as there really is only one thing that could have happened....rider error. Forget this idea your skills are going to magically slowly, or quickly, improve, it doesn't work that way, the skills required for these machines is extremely high, best to learn as a child, who practice on a closed course for hundreds of hours. Talking while riding is the first sign to me that you are not concentrating, and are not focused. You are figuring out there is a lot to know, an expert's skill level is 100's of times greater than your average beginner. Its not a beginner, intermediate, expert path in linear, its a rising rate. Any expert will tell you....turn off the camera, turn off the microphones, turn off the intercom. and focus.....become one with the bike.....be more confident in your thoughts. The conclusion that the bike was the problem in your crash is false. I think your bike momentarily had a lag in the throttle, typical of fuel injection, fly by wire throttles. That causes a brief stall (rear wheel brake), that may restart with the shear momentum of the bike, however it was enough to throw your enormous and overloaded bike off balance while going very slow. Due to your inexperience you were not able to react to this weight shift...bike is too heavy anyhow to save in most cases....but it shows you just how simple it is to drop a bike and break your leg....you don't even know what happened...when you really should. I hope this helps. Start with greater concentration levels.
You were turned to the right and leaning a little bit when you stopped so it's weight was already going that way and it fell. Bikes are weightless when totally vertical facing straight ahead. You also think too much, cornering should be a natural feeling, not something you need to mentally prepare for. Feel the bike. Twisty roads are the best. Why are you worried?
I def think too much!!! Haha
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@@melissasmotorcycleadventures Melissa. I am a veteran off road rider, and instructed for many years when I was a bit younger. I am interested in your video as it appears you need some pointers, to make it. I wrote for you so you can learn from your mistake. Bottom line, you can't afford to be making these mistakes while out riding on the road. I will describe that throttle lag I mentioned. It is more or less the same as not successfully coordinating your throttle and clutch release, the timing of those two controls mixed with eye position, body position, your feet being able to touch the ground, and the notion that the actual weight you are in control of.....well over 500lbs. Your knees and feet can not handle this weight, its all about concentration and balance. Once these things start going down, there is no saving them, you have to get away from the machine, or be crushed. Watch closely and listen....there was a brief stall, then a brief restart before you fell. You instinctively pulled in the clutch, when what you really needed to do was increase the throttle, and work the contol/clutch to get some forward action going. To keep a bike up in those moments, you need to quickly accelerate. This is a fine example of the high skill you need to recover from your initial mistake. Essentially, you can't be making this mistake, unless you the ability to recover from it, which you don't, and that would take a long time to get that level of instinctive reaction time, and skill.etc. Listening to you speak while riding....make me cringe...you have to concentrate more, and talking about how uncertain you are with what you are doing, seems incongruous, because it is. The fact that you ride with your husband, believe it or not, actually increases your risk of making mistakes. Focus, and lack of distraction...which includes riding with others, are key......key points to adopt.
with respect, real time sounds even without voice is an improvement over the ...music
Thanks for the suggestion
It's a little misadventure. I suggest you remove the side bags and top case and also the seat cover. these are all things that make you awkward
Thanks for the suggestion!
I hav your bike a 2015 rt n same color. My 2nd rt n near 100k on RTs. Best bike made. I think u bike has shift assist or shift pro. So when u pull out n lift u left 🎉foot onto peg, if u touch shifter it will shift into 2nd gear u lose power stearin is turned n u go DOWN. Get used to lifting foot up on the outside half of the FOOT PEG ,N don’t touch the shift peg. I’m 73 n hav a couple million miles shifting trucks cars cycles, i had Asheville bmw turn the shift pro OFF. I live n the Smokey mountainsI’m smooth as butter use in the clutch n lady u r ridein one of thee most technical bikes made n u scared of it. U need to get a 500cc standard 300lb bike n get u 3 or 4k miles experience. The RT is for very experienced ridersn it doesn’t sound lik u there yet. YOUR SCARED OF THE TWISTYS, N I LOV THE TWISTYS..
Thanks for all the info. I've been riding the bike for quite a while now and I'm feeling way more proficient! :)
I think you started with too much bike. Too big, too powerful, too heavy.
Thanks for your opinion and watching :)