Finally A CHEAP CHINESE CARBON HANDLEBAR You Can TRUST!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- For its performance, style, and price point, this bar is definitely my favorite ever! It pairs perfectly with my Winspace T1500D and will look amazing on any road bike!
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If you want a Decent Price Carbon Fiber "Non-Chinese" Handlebar, I recommend Prime Primavera Aero Handlebar for $200. Prime Doyenne is there Alloy version but still the same aero shape. Recently got one and they are amazing.
Interresting! But not integrated ;) I've been doing a quick search but can't find, where is the bar actually made? Maybe it's non-chinese components company, but in the end, made in china...
@@CharlesOuimet everything is made in China/Taiwan haha
I'm 100% sure it's chinese made (china/taiwan) 😂 even the biggest player like specialized & trek used to do that
Yes I used i for a year and its really really great. Now Im on a Tarmac SL7 so I got the integrated Aerofly II however I preferred the feel of the Primavera.
Agreed on Prime, I have the black edition rims too, they are however most definitely Chinese mate, the significant upside though is dealing direct with wiggle or chain reaction in the event of any issues
I've had those Toseek bars on my bike for months, its totally fine. I can send images on request. And for the record, I put a lot of weight through it.💪
Thanks for sharing!
i use it too!
Rigid or flexing? Compared to aluminum.
lotsa carbon cracks look at this years giro recent crashes.
Did you get those ram style TOSEEK bars? Are they too flexible?
Last year i tried those aliexpress 40$ handlebars, I was just curious about them, but I never really intended using them on my race bike. Once I received it, build quality visualy seemed good, but man... this thing was so flexy! Sprinting was so scary, and I was not even trying... They were not even good enough for my commuter. Sold them for nothing on marketplace haha!
Ahhaah yup that's the story of 40$ bars. Thankfully that's not the case with the Winspace one ( it's also 250$ tho) super stiff, never felt any bit of flex!
I bought the OG EVKIN integrated carbon handlebars last year and really put them through the stress test. I liked them so much I'm buying a new set for my new bike. I bought the ones without the built in computer mount, they have "pioneer" in matte black printed across the top.
nice man!
my friend of mine is also using
chinese brand carbon, kocevlo carbon parts last long too
It’s really cheap thanks for giving reviews about this man
Anytime man! 🎉
If the bar were to fail, would you tell us in a video ? :)
I'm not sure I will do the full commit on buying a complete "chinese" bike one day, but I'm happy some competition is happening in the cycling industry where price seems to go up with no limit.
Your content is rock solid, YT algorithm seems to be on your side, I hope it'll work for you.
Thanks man!! I will for sure. I have no strings attached with Winspace, if their products fails me, I will tell the world. So far only good experience!
@@CharlesOuimet
You might not have any attachment with them but I've seen you comment on just about every video with anything to do with them. I know you say you're impartial and I think you mean it... But it does come across as a bit shill-esque.
I enjoy your videos though, bike looks awesome.
@@rishabhphukan8339 Why wouldn't he though? It's a great brand that has done amazing work bringing prices of high quality carbon components down. Charles isn't the only one singing their praises, everyone is. Whether or not they're affiliated. I have no doubt that if Winspace products failed for whatever reason, everyone would be talking about it, including Charles. Western media would LOVE to drag their name in the dirt if a single Reddit thread about a failed frame/bar/wheel was posted, even if it was user error. Also, Winspace manufactures products for Western brands. If you don't feel comfortable with their in house branded products, how can you be comfortable with any carbon product, knowing they're manufactured on the same assembly line, with the same tolerances?
@@NeutralGenericUser Thanks for bumping a thread from a year ago when they were basically new to the scene. A lot of others have been demoing and posting about them, but the info in my post still stands.
Aggressively posting on everything about a brand comes off as shill-esque as does your bumping a thread from a year ago to try to call me out. I never commented on the quality of the bike or lack thereof... just how his posting was coming off.
@@rishabhphukan8339 I'm not defending the bike or company or whatever, so how am I shilling? I'm just saying it's possible for someone to financially benefit from a sponsorship deal, and genuinely like the product. Charles daily rides Winspace bikes and has put tens of thousands of kms on them (I have him on Strava). What does that tell you? That he trusts the product or that he's just a shill?
where i find this winspace zero to buy? i search in amazon, aliexpress, shopee.... and nothing apears! im from brazil.
I have a 'copy' Tarmac SL7 Aero Bars that I got from AliExpress
, I've rode over 2000km so far and it's fantastic! (Touch wood)
Think you just need to find the right seller to be honest. Nothing to do whether or not it's a copy or Genuine company, it's just whether it's coming out of a good factory!
Exactly!!
Hi charles, do you know the weight of this bar? Thanks
Hum good question I don't! But not particulary light or heavy, in the normal I'd say
No issue with quality of the Winspace bar on my T1500 but they're not designed for full internal cockpit unless you use DI2 which is a bummer. I found the Elves Orome bar to be superior to everything else in the market right now due to the smart channeling under the stem.
Mechanical cable should never be run internal!! With ANY handlebars
Does it come with spacers?
I've been really happy with my farsports f1. Super stiff light and compliment
Nice! I'll take a look
Is it possible for cables to be fully hidden with rim brake di2 groupset? or disc only
Unfortunately, it's not recommended to do internal routing with cables, it will not work as good
Hi. just want to ask if it's fit to a 2021 trek emonda sl6 pro. Ultegra mech groupset and Disc Frame. With internal cable routing. Thank you in advance for the answer.
Hey! I unfortunately don't know about the internal routing of emonda sl6 or if it's the same steerer tube size. sorry!
Hey Charles - What is the stem angle of handlebars? The website is unclear: -8 or -10 degrees. Thanks!
Hey Pat, huhh I dont know exactly, sorry!
Hey Patrick, I hadn't looked at this before but I saw they have this info on the website now, these are listed at 10⁰
@@galenkehler Indeed!
@@PatrickLino yeah I was looking around the other day for an integrated bar, now that I have my new fork I can run a shorter stem which brings me into the range offerd by integrated bar/stem.
I'm going to go with the FarSports bar cause they offer a 36cm width tho... 😎
Do they make a bar without integrated stem as well.
i dont think so
Bro I am thinking of putting this on my commuter (just for cool factor). Will it work with the regular mechanical 105 r brake setup?
Man that would look so fly for a commuter setup. If your fork is standard size, I don't know why it wouldnt fit!
@@CharlesOuimet thanks man! Actually I reached out to Winspace after the comment and they it was designed for their T1500, so fully external cable routing won't work as intended :(
@@emiliodiezjunior thanks bro! Will need to be next bike as I already purchased another one 🥲
This Winspace frame looks very similar to Wilier cento 10 pro. I’m looking for handlebar that can replace Alabarda pro bar you think this may work instead of Alabarda?
Definitely similar! Pretty sure it can be a great alternative to that Alabarda pro bar!
I have no issues with my cheap carbon parts
There are some good companies out there
But for winspace prizes u can get very big brand products in germany
Thanks for sharing!
Please, what are the specs on the winspace integrated carbon handlebar. I cannot find the handlebar information on the winspace website.. ??
Mine is 105mm 40cm wide! Yeah it's unfortunately sold out!
reviewing your sponsor bar is good just dont shit on other aliexpress products unless u have personally experience a break .
Simply go watch trace velo review of the ToSeek handlebar, that shit is scary
bonjour bro je voulais savoir si 3 ans apres tu as le meme avis sur le produit surtout pour les route au quebec
Salut!
Toujours #1 le handlebar. Il est toujours sur mon Winspace qui prend un peu la poussière c'est temps ci. Mais au final super satisfait des 40 000 kilo fait sur ce handlebar!
Reckon you can run these on a gravel bike all good??
You can, but riding gravel is better with a flared bars!
Well that all depends on how you like your bars. I more meant if they are gonna hold up to the beating
Are there any exit holes in the handlebar for handlebar only integration with di2 and brake cables?
There are exit holes for a rim/mecanical build!
Hi, friend, do you have any idea for suitable TT bar for that handlebar? I sometimes start in triathlon, and i am wondering abou it. Maybe have you got any idea?
Good question, I don't unfortunately!
@@CharlesOuimet thanks ;) i am looking whole internet and dont find anything ;(
Maybe sirocco mini clip on?
Will this fit in any carbon bike frame? how about a rim brake frame.
If the steerer tube size is standard, yes it will fit. But double check the mesurements! And yes will work on rim brake frame, I have it on my girlfriend bike
@@CharlesOuimet what is the standard size? How about the headtube size?
@@GOlone9597 I dont have that info, sorry!
@@CharlesOuimet thanks!
can yo run the cables externally kind of like the handlebar on emonda slr?
yes you can run them externally!
@@CharlesOuimet thanks bro!
elves integrated handlebar rocks more, even their frames! Try and see
I'll check it out!
Rock=Good?
Hello, love your videos. Can you share Handlebar link with us where can I buy one of these? Have a nice day
Hi! Sure it's www.winspace.cc
In accessories
@@CharlesOuimet Thank you for quick response Sir. I am slowly assembling my new bike and I will try for sure their handlebar :)
Hell yes!!!
They should make spacers for the most common brands of bikes, cannondale, specialized etc.
yeah :(
They do! Now at least, I was just looking at these bars and they have kits for lots of bikes
any link aliexpress?
Bonjour Charles. Sur un Garneau gennix a1 RIM brake penses tu que ça fonctionnerait ? Merci beaucoup
Salut Maxime! J'avais ce bike là avant de me le faire détruite par la TSA ahah! (j'ai un vidéo la dessus) mais oui la grosseur de la fourche c'est standard, je ne vois pas pourquoi le fit serais pas bon!
How do you properly choose the size?
For the stem lenght, it's up to your bike fit, the reach and top tube lenght according to your body.
For the width, that is up to your shoulder width. technically, you mesure from the balljoint of each shoulders and should with straight arms and get either 38-40-42-44
BOOM! Purchased with your code. Many thanks!
Damn boy!!! Let's get itttttt
Yo Charles, do you (or anyone else?!) know the weight of these handlebars? They don't have the weight on the website either. I'll get in touch directly, but if anyone knows, let me know! Thanks
Hey! I don't think they have a weight table and I didn't weight when I got mine. I'll do next time!
But it's not heaiver or lighter than most integrated carbon bar and stem
I like the Windspace bikes 🚴 but they don’t have my size. Tall riders just have to stick to the known brands.
That's unfortunate! How tall are you? I'll be sure to tell them!
This is what Joe at China Cycling/Winspace told me regarding their XL size. "Their 55cm is probably equivalent to like a 58 or something from other brands. They list the actual length of the seat tube, instead of the virtual seat tube that western brands use. I think you'd be good up to about 196cm."
@@robseibel2004 That is Good to know. I’m currently on a 60 frame bike 🚴 and 194 cm. Thanks 🙏 for clearing that up.
You have put your di2 junction on the wrong side.
Ahah yeah my mechanic screw that up ahah still works
Nice vid 🤙
Thank you man!
@@CharlesOuimet no worries, looking to retire my 5 year old Raleigh Militis, done around 30,000 miles that I’ve clocked over the years, gets ridden in all weathers and still going
Hi there it's a old video but I just want to suggest something.. Why Queen ? Make it Prince is more respectful. Luke (Trace Velo) is a man. Thanks for the video
Calling him a queen is a bit of a joke, but nothing offensive ahahah!!! THanks
Looks like a specialised sl7..
1/3 of the price ;) but its deffirent too
Я хотел купить себе этот раму, но его цена для меня эта очень дорого, я не могу себе позволить к сожалению у них нет скидок, за 1000 долларов я бы купил себе такую раму, и их рост рамы они вообще не подходят мне(( 51 рост слишком маленький а 54 слишком длинный и высокий поэтому я не решился, и хочу заказать себе от компании Yoeleo, или ICAN эта тоже прекрасные велосипеды, разница в том что у них нет UCI допуска,
english? ahah
do you run 25mm or 28mm tyres? and what is the reason for your choice. Thank you.
I run 25, no specific reason to be honest 😅 because it's the one I got
It looks like your bars have a big crack in them on the top, just right of the stem at time stamp 4:50. It looks pretty sketch to me!
Hey! It's not a crack, it's a scratch from my camera clamp. It sometime damage the paint. Two years later now and this bar is still very solid. I used it every day!
Eh. Sorry. Would never even consider using some no brand cheap 100 component on the bike.
A firm believer of the saying, buy cheap buy twice. I’d rather spend the cash from the beginning and get one from a reputable brand, then buy cheap crap just to save cash. It’s not worth it in the end.
125 is not long enough, they should go up to 140mm like a lot of other companies.
I'll let them know!
You should not need that much reach, have you had a bike fit? Highly doubt it
@@Notinserviceij not had a bike fit, but I’ve only ridden & raced on a bike for 50 years, so what do I know? 😳🤣
@@barryford7135 sounds about right, someone who thinks he knows what he is talking about rather than someone who knows what he is talking about
Get a bike fit and you'll be surprised just how wrong you have been all of these years
When people use anecdotal evidence as their only form of persuasion then you know they have nothing
Cheers fella
@@Notinserviceij think I will trust my judgement over yours.
Omg Why the odd stem length??? 85, 95? Seriously
ahah no idea
The worst type of review, gets free products, doesn't do a long-term tests and claims it's unbiased even though he was hired by them and given a ton of free products... I'm sorry this is more of an add then unbaised review and testing.
Thanks you saved me from wasting 7 more minutes 👍
@MalamuteMan1 yeah no worries , I unsubed a while ago
You can see a crack on the handlebar at 4:54
That's not a crack, it's a scrach from using a clamp for filming myself with my gopro, see some of my recent community post ;)
th-cam.com/users/postUgwWrFX3x8XjL3Gx9aN4AaABCQ
Sorry unsubscribing. No clear Paid content disclaimer and you are basically shilling a product for monetary gain for yourself. This 'review' is completely untrustworthy and marks you as a content creator that can not be trusted.
he says straight up in the beginning of the video that use of the promo code supports his channel. he's also been riding this bike for awhile now.
@@raphaelbartolome2265 yeah that's 50 seconds into the video, there is no banner at start of video and no mention of it in the description all of which is supposed to be done according to TH-cam.
Hey man, sorry you didn't quite like the content. I've been doing ads and brand deals for over 4 years now with my photography account, let me educate you on it quickly. If a brand send guidelines, review the videos before it goes live and pay upfront for a collaboration, that is an ad to be disclosed and I fully agree with this and will always do it. But in the event that I'm free to do whatever I want, the company doesn't request or know about the upcoming video neither approves it before it goes live, that it not an ad to be disclosed in the tittle, thumbnail. As Raphael said in his comment, I did explain at the beginning and the end that I do recieve a kick-back from the sales. But it's in no way biasing my opinion. Would I ride really hard an handlebar for over 5000km if I had any doubt it would fail me and put my life in danger? Not at all... Anyways, have a good day!
@@CharlesOuimet
It's hard to claim unbiased when you say you get kickbacks though! I think you do make it clear though that you paid for this stuff using your own money... Or money from the kickbacks lol.
Do they give you actual money back or do they give you store credit.
In any event their head tubes are all way too short for me. Bummer.
Guys, what is this discussion. Charles is super transparent about what he gets for free and what benefit he receives. If you don't like it nobody forces you to watch - but don't expect every content creator to do it for fun and some nice words here and there
i’ve never shopped on ali. waste of money.
You're missing out. Carbon parts on ali can be fantastic and only cost a fraction of the usual price.
Never did too! At least the Winspace is their webseand not Ali ahaha
There are some good finds!
If you never shopped, how do you know they are waste of money?
and paying 3/4/5 times as much for (basically) the same product isnt a waste of money? i suppose sponsoring pro pelotons and having marketing campaigns aint cheap.