Brian Chan is full of knowledge when it comes to still water fishing. I didn't really appreciate his immense knowledge or chronomid flies until I started fly fishing in lakes.
This technique is impractical if you fish from the shore instead of a boat. You either have to give up most of the casting distance or snag all the time.
With all due respect to Brian and Phil Rowley (both of whom have taught me a lot), their 125% depth of water for leader length for Naked (a/k/a "Straight Line Nymphing") seems odd and impractical. When I'm Stillwater fishing, I'm constantly moving to find fish (frequently with a Drogue) and, thus, I"m fishing over different depths. Having to constantly be changing the leader length seems impractical. Moreover, most Stillwater fly fishers in the UK (many of whom I know well and who fish competitively also) use a fixed length (and typically it is not tapered) leader for their Straight Line Nymphying. When I asked a couple friends in the UK who fish a lot of Stillwater about this technique of keeping the leader at 125% of water depth they dismissed it as not being necessary and a wasted effort---they always fish a fixed length of leader and adjust the depth they fish by how long they wait for the flies to drop through the water column. Cheers, Bryan
My take is this: different people fish differently. If you watch Chan and Rowley, they often fish deep lakes in Canada, and often from a boat. They might fish the counters at the same depth for a while, but if they're not getting bites, they probably move to a different depth, and yes, that does mean that you need to change leader length. To them, changing leader length to get your fly in the strike zone is being practical. Your friends in the UK might use fixed length leaders, and as long as they are getting the fly in front of the fish that's great, but if the fish are down 20+ ft. and your fixed length leader is at 10ft., how do you make them bite (on a floating line, sinkers are another story.)? Also, non-tapered leaders are used in North America as an alternative leader setup. For example Rowley mentions that non-tapered leaders are great because they allow a near 90 degree angle to keep the fly in the strike zone. With a tapered leader it would arc, which is why Chan recommends the extra 25% of water depth leader length because he's using tapered leaders.
Hey April I fish Langford Lake and humbly profess that I catch trout up to 10lbs.there. I out fish the Chronomide Fisher's in number's and size. I have my own fly and do thank Brian as there is an influence of his in it but different than any fly I've seen. The one thing about Chrono Fisher's is the anchors rip up the vegetation. Anyways I troll Fly's and have experienced 200yd. jumping runs. I did win the big trout derby in Victoria in 17 with 385 tickets sold. I was on chemo at the time with undiagnosed diabetes. I'd like to share my technique with you as you are worthy.
Brian Chan is full of knowledge when it comes to still water fishing. I didn't really appreciate his immense knowledge or chronomid flies until I started fly fishing in lakes.
Thanks so much for the tips. You're a great teacher!
This technique is impractical if you fish from the shore instead of a boat. You either have to give up most of the casting distance or snag all the time.
No it’s not I do it all the time!
@@jcsfishingadventures8055How do you handle water getting shallower as you retrieve?
With all due respect to Brian and Phil Rowley (both of whom have taught me a lot), their 125% depth of water for leader length for Naked (a/k/a "Straight Line Nymphing") seems odd and impractical. When I'm Stillwater fishing, I'm constantly moving to find fish (frequently with a Drogue) and, thus, I"m fishing over different depths. Having to constantly be changing the leader length seems impractical. Moreover, most Stillwater fly fishers in the UK (many of whom I know well and who fish competitively also) use a fixed length (and typically it is not tapered) leader for their Straight Line Nymphying. When I asked a couple friends in the UK who fish a lot of Stillwater about this technique of keeping the leader at 125% of water depth they dismissed it as not being necessary and a wasted effort---they always fish a fixed length of leader and adjust the depth they fish by how long they wait for the flies to drop through the water column. Cheers, Bryan
My take is this: different people fish differently. If you watch Chan and Rowley, they often fish deep lakes in Canada, and often from a boat. They might fish the counters at the same depth for a while, but if they're not getting bites, they probably move to a different depth, and yes, that does mean that you need to change leader length. To them, changing leader length to get your fly in the strike zone is being practical. Your friends in the UK might use fixed length leaders, and as long as they are getting the fly in front of the fish that's great, but if the fish are down 20+ ft. and your fixed length leader is at 10ft., how do you make them bite (on a floating line, sinkers are another story.)? Also, non-tapered leaders are used in North America as an alternative leader setup. For example Rowley mentions that non-tapered leaders are great because they allow a near 90 degree angle to keep the fly in the strike zone. With a tapered leader it would arc, which is why Chan recommends the extra 25% of water depth leader length because he's using tapered leaders.
@@aloh86 Yep, I concur there are multiple ways to configure a setup to fish stillwaters. BTW, 125% of water depth means water depth + 25%. Cheers,
Out of curiosity how long do they like to make their leaders?
Hey April I fish Langford Lake and humbly profess that I catch trout up to 10lbs.there. I out fish the Chronomide Fisher's in number's and size. I have my own fly and do thank Brian as there is an influence of his in it but different than any fly I've seen. The one thing about Chrono Fisher's is the anchors rip up the vegetation. Anyways I troll Fly's and have experienced 200yd. jumping runs. I did win the big trout derby in Victoria in 17 with 385 tickets sold. I was on chemo at the time with undiagnosed diabetes. I'd like to share my technique with you as you are worthy.
Thanks for sharing with everyone...
You’re right about the anchors
It would be helpful if Chan could actually show us the technique rather than just talking about it.
There is a SFOTF episode with Brian fishing this technique. th-cam.com/video/RxT1VRBJVVM/w-d-xo.html
Lol you want to watch him slowly strip without an indicator or any way to watch the fly under water? Yeah thatd be so insightful
😂😂😂 you ungrateful sob lol