Okay guys seriously if you don't like her don't comment She is a great rider that's why she is jumping there and not us And as for people having trouble with bits just shut up about it your just causing a fuss She wasn't yanking she was either adjusting the horses stride or keeping it's mind on the job I know I'm a show jumper (not at this level) obviously! Her horse respects her otherwise it wouldn't trust her but in big crowds with lots of noise I'd run too But seriously stop being so imm
ahh i was there that day :) it was a shame but every time the horse landed after that fence it was napping to the track...just goes to show that even the best horses nap :)
The whitakers are never cruel to their horses I agree, but my old instructor rode at HOY's and her daughter went up to ellen and asked for an autograph while ellen was drinking a pint. Ellen said "No. I've been doing them all day and i'm sick of fans!" and carried on drinking! Please bare in mind the little girl was 6! But yeah, a great family of riders! xx
I have ridden many showjumpers, up 1.40m classes so don't judge me. And her horses buck because they are young and full of feed. When she's at these events she doesn't go there to train her horses she goes to compete, that's why she doesn't make a fuss of it. She trains at home as most riders do. It's different at shows etc some classify that as a "training run" but these are proper events
Ever since I read in a magazine interview that Ellen only lets her horses out in the field for one hour a day I lost respect for her.... a horse should be able to be a horse whether it be an expensive competition horse or not!! They're living creatures, not just money making machines :)
I'm just talking from personal experience, I've been riding for 12 yrs, am only able to once a week, but my legs always hurt at least a bit the next day. I take this as a good thing as it means I have worked hard and therefore ridden properly- with the horses I ride you pretty much need your legs on constantly. I don't mean literally dripping, but surely you can't deny that riding is hard work and it makes you sweat? Everyone at my yard would agree-I see them after lessons looking knackered!
@Bubble734 It really doesn't matter if the horse has thicker skin. It's meant for natural purposes to protect them from their environments, not to be whipped. Most of these horses get slaughtered after there's no use for them. Some people find this a sport, which is laughable because the only person doing the work in this case is the horse.
Ellen is a really good rider- who wouldn't take a tumble after a stop like that. To be honest if she did hurt her horses surely it would have come out by now. I agree with 27misssophie. she is a lovely person. i have a really good bond with my horse and we still took a tumble at a one day event this year:s
@XxpunchyMunchxX It's a competition they do every year at HOYS (horse of the year show). What happens is there are five fences and each round they go up, with the fences getting bigger throughout the course. If you get a refusal/pole etc then you're out :)
I own a mare and I honestly dont think I would act any different if i didnt own her I dont act snobby or think im better then anyone else, I let my friends who dont have their own horses on my mare. I just think people think that because we own or horseride we act as if we're higher then them because its expensive?I do agree though that many people do argue over little things but I think it's because horses are animals, there alive and can feel things,People will always argue about that.
yeah i am always a little bit reluctant to use my whip but my riding instructor says they have thick skin and doesn't hurt, but I was never sure whether to believe her! I agree, of course way more fun :) and I guess I don't ride often enough to be fit enough for it never to hurt
i'm actually wuite glad she fell coz i fell off the same way but i don't feel like an idiot anymore ;) xox and it teaches everyone that even the best fall :) xoxox
i was there on friday aswell :) and saw this happen, that jump was HUGE!! stood at just over 1m75 in the last round didnt it? glad ellen was ok, sadly i didnt get on camera tho! hehe xx
Woah who do you think you are? The bubble person was right about everything! If you try hard, then you will get sweaty! She is no making a fool out of every other horsewoman/man, because personally I'm proud of what she just said, and how hard and committed she made our sport sound. Stop having a go at everyone, nearly all the comments on this video are you being a little know it all.
Actually, the main idea of a noseband is to prevent gaping. I don't use one - don't need one. But make no mistake, grackles can be extremely severe and do NOT as a general rule improve breathing. A normal cavesson does all the job you normally need ;) And look at the majority of racehorses - they do NOT wear nosebands (see I'll Have Another in the Kentucky Derby and he certainly did have breathing assistance in the form of that strip!!) some do, but not the majority.
to whatever person we are arguing with: if you don't half halt horses who have a strong lead to the jump, they will take a bad spot, or over jump and then have the chance of HURTING THEMSELVES. What would you liked her to have done? She was in no way ripping on the horses face it is called a strong half halt. I don't like using them either but if you need to too control the horse it needs to be done. though, I would love to know what kind of push button horses you are riding hahaha
@annaunddaslicht never heard/seen anything about her being cruel to her horses. And when she left the arena after this fall she gave the horse a pat and left the arena? :S
Scoutpup you are right a lot of girls do that and I love all the horses I have rode in my 8 years of riding. No I don't have a horse but ever time I win or not win I still say "you did will" to the other girls. I have never fallen off a horse and I hope not to because my mom is a X-tech and she was scared to even see me get on a horse but now she loves to see me ride!
what are you supposed to use, then? Nosebands restrict horses breathing and pulling on them makes it harder for them to breathe, bits don't interupt air flow as horses don't breathe through their mouth.
@annaunddaslicht yeah coz falling off is really cruel..?? horses' skin is really thick, hitting doesn't hurt them like it hurts us. She was the only person in the situation and as a skilled rider she obviously felt it was necessary to hit the horse-this could have been for safety, if her horse learns that it's ok to refuse all the time she is a lot more likely to fall, and if the horse had not been 100% going for that fence the next time there could have been an accident.
the horse was rushing the jumps abit so i can see why she had her reins tight. after all, you dont know the horse so you cant make assumptions about her riding ability.
For a starter Ellen Whittaker didn't "beat" her horse it's called discipline, you won't find any good horse that has never had a "smack" in it's life she obviously doesn't want her horse spoilt. She has an amazing talent and the horses don't do the work for her, its 60% horse and 40% rider, when you can ride as well as her then you can criticize her but until then keep your mouth shut!! Secondly She doesn't yank on their mouth the adjusts strides and her horses buck because they are either youn
and I've said, I don't like how Ellen is riding and how she doesn't let go of her reins. That said, just because your horse was abused doesn't mean that it's an excuse to let him get away with things. It sounds like he knows that using a bit means he can be naughty, and you won't punish him for it. Plenty of abused horses have bits and work fine, using the excuse 'he was abused' really counts for nothing. My boy has a bit because he's strong, and you need control. He has a strong bit.
how else is she supposed to make the horse slow down huh? yes she shouldn't be constantly pulling at the bit but this arena isn't that big and negotiating turns, at the right speed and the correct amount of strides, these horses are often energetic and need a little bit of reinforcement to make the horse listen. Just reminding you that the horse weighs so much more and it takes heaps of skill to work out the strategy that works best for you, in her case it is making the horse listen.
Horse slaughter is done very humanley in the Uk, having rescued 3 horses from slaughter I should know, its very pain free and calm and they have to have DEFRA vets there and clean the whole place out after every horse to keep the stress levels down! Sorry if you think this horse went for slaughter but I very much doubt it did, and yes top competition horses that have lost their buzz do go for slaughter unfortunately but its a fact of life and its not your decision.
@gammon30162 There's no video evidence that has been uploaded. Consider this: of course there is no video evidence, no one wants to persecute her because she's loved by the fans of this sport. If this was escalated, the committee would come under fire from animal rights groups, but there are accounts of people seeing her get frustrated and beat her horse. I am quite sure she was embarrassed and doesn't do it anymore or at least does it later when there are no cameras around.
@mystables97 If they had dodgy legs i don't think they'd be jumping this height lol :L I just think horses deserve to be out in the field, to be themselves for longer than an hour a day! Horses can't be wrapped up in bubble wrap for the sake of competitions, their well being is far more important... but that's just MY opinion :)
@tulipsxw2 I'm not denying that horses are slaughtered, I'm aware of that and think it's terrible (although don't really see how it's very different from other animal slaughter) but the horses being slaughtered are NOT top competition horses who are no longer competing, they are normally unwanted + unridden (not saying that's a good thing.) I think racehorses who don't make it are occasionally killed but racing is a different sport to showjumping/dressage/eventing.
@FrancescaHopee Ohh.. looks like on the vid if he fitted another one in he would of got too close? and then took off were he stopped would of been to far away
That horse was like, 'not today bitch!" LMAO
Oh please...the horse had this planned before they started cantering around the arena.
Did anyone else laugh at the big crowd gasp?
XD at the end the horse is like "Thank you! Thank you! I know i'm amazing!" XD
Thats the thing that i love , Ellen Whitaker is my inspiration because she is an amazing rider and everyone falls off now and again xx
Okay guys seriously if you don't like her don't comment
She is a great rider that's why she is jumping there and not us
And as for people having trouble with bits just shut up about it your just causing a fuss
She wasn't yanking she was either adjusting the horses stride or keeping it's mind on the job I know I'm a show jumper (not at this level) obviously!
Her horse respects her otherwise it wouldn't trust her but in big crowds with lots of noise I'd run too
But seriously stop being so imm
What a clever horse! He knew he was in the wrong stride so he stopped, shame she came off!
New horsey ey Ellen, He is pretty bless. He looks like a good horse.... Glad Ellen was ok she is such an amazing rider xxxxxx
ahh i was there that day :) it was a shame but every time the horse landed after that fence it was napping to the track...just goes to show that even the best horses nap :)
that awkward walk where you have to go catch your horse after you fall... :P
"nananananana you can't catch me!" looks like the horse is having a laugh;) poor ellen, i would have sat there crying! :L
She is great!
The whitakers are never cruel to their horses I agree, but my old instructor rode at HOY's and her daughter went up to ellen and asked for an autograph while ellen was drinking a pint. Ellen said "No. I've been doing them all day and i'm sick of fans!" and carried on drinking! Please bare in mind the little girl was 6! But yeah, a great family of riders! xx
I have ridden many showjumpers, up 1.40m classes so don't judge me. And her horses buck because they are young and full of feed. When she's at these events she doesn't go there to train her horses she goes to compete, that's why she doesn't make a fuss of it. She trains at home as most riders do. It's different at shows etc some classify that as a "training run" but these are proper events
@gingersandmidgets yeh! yes gorgeous horse! xx
Ever since I read in a magazine interview that Ellen only lets her horses out in the field for one hour a day I lost respect for her.... a horse should be able to be a horse whether it be an expensive competition horse or not!! They're living creatures, not just money making machines :)
Ooh ouch, and she was doing so well!
Mind you, that horse had a beautiful trot, at least we all got to see that! x
@HorseLoverMimi just noticed I put "left the arena" twice :L
I'm just talking from personal experience, I've been riding for 12 yrs, am only able to once a week, but my legs always hurt at least a bit the next day. I take this as a good thing as it means I have worked hard and therefore ridden properly- with the horses I ride you pretty much need your legs on constantly. I don't mean literally dripping, but surely you can't deny that riding is hard work and it makes you sweat? Everyone at my yard would agree-I see them after lessons looking knackered!
@Fr3ya1996Babii33 This was the Five Fence Challenge :) xxx
Haven't we all had a fall?
@Bubble734 It really doesn't matter if the horse has thicker skin. It's meant for natural purposes to protect them from their environments, not to be whipped. Most of these horses get slaughtered after there's no use for them. Some people find this a sport, which is laughable because the only person doing the work in this case is the horse.
Ellen is a really good rider- who wouldn't take a tumble after a stop like that. To be honest if she did hurt her horses surely it would have come out by now. I agree with 27misssophie. she is a lovely person. i have a really good bond with my horse and we still took a tumble at a one day event this year:s
was there that day. That fence was 1,70m
@BreyerGurl100 yeh it is a shame! Yes i watched it on tv x
what Day did You Go?/xx Shes Such And Amazing Rider I Saw Her In the speed horse of The Year Class on sat Day :)x
@XxpunchyMunchxX It's a competition they do every year at HOYS (horse of the year show). What happens is there are five fences and each round they go up, with the fences getting bigger throughout the course. If you get a refusal/pole etc then you're out :)
She is such a good rider! I would love to be like her!
thats only actually if you have flash on xxxxxxxxxx
I own a mare and I honestly dont think I would act any different if i didnt own her I dont act snobby or think im better then anyone else, I let my friends who dont have their own horses on my mare. I just think people think that because we own or horseride we act as if we're higher then them because its expensive?I do agree though that many people do argue over little things but I think it's because horses are animals, there alive and can feel things,People will always argue about that.
I love the audience!
The horse wad also crossed up it never changed its lead completely an some horses dont like jumping when there crossed up
thank you :) I couldn't download it but I recorder it on my camera haha :), thank you x
That there proves that everyone falls off sometimes even some of the best riders!
please could i use this:)
yeah i am always a little bit reluctant to use my whip but my riding instructor says they have thick skin and doesn't hurt, but I was never sure whether to believe her! I agree, of course way more fun :) and I guess I don't ride often enough to be fit enough for it never to hurt
no wonder she fell!!! it acctually looked like she was gonna jump it!!! i was waiting for her to be bucked off...
Hi can I use this video. I will include reference to you. Thxs xxxx
hey:) would you mind if I used this in a video? it's about horse riders and falls etc :) x
saw this as well x
skip to 0:45 to see the fall:)
@janeb6035 Yeeah! The Whitakers are awesome! x
omg, i was there, i saw it happen!
@snowy1331 erm no, i am actually; thanks for your input but it wasnt necassary:)
i'm actually wuite glad she fell coz i fell off the same way but i don't feel like an idiot anymore ;) xox and it teaches everyone that even the best fall :) xoxox
because I'm rebellious
Aww... Poor Ellen...
I love how she doesn't sit there and moan - she just gets straight back up again, no problem. Looks like that hurt though =/
i was there on friday aswell :) and saw this happen, that jump was HUGE!! stood at just over 1m75 in the last round didnt it? glad ellen was ok, sadly i didnt get on camera tho! hehe xx
yeah that's fine, please send me the link when it's done :) x
cheer up people its christmas!
Every once in a while we all take a tumble :)
Woah who do you think you are? The bubble person was right about everything! If you try hard, then you will get sweaty! She is no making a fool out of every other horsewoman/man, because personally I'm proud of what she just said, and how hard and committed she made our sport sound. Stop having a go at everyone, nearly all the comments on this video are you being a little know it all.
@FloAndEve I went on the friday :) yehh she is! how did she do in the speed class?xxx
Actually, the main idea of a noseband is to prevent gaping. I don't use one - don't need one. But make no mistake, grackles can be extremely severe and do NOT as a general rule improve breathing. A normal cavesson does all the job you normally need ;) And look at the majority of racehorses - they do NOT wear nosebands (see I'll Have Another in the Kentucky Derby and he certainly did have breathing assistance in the form of that strip!!) some do, but not the majority.
Which event was this? xx
I see what she did wrong! She leaned forward to early. That made her horse stop. But she is a clever rider, but it can happen everybody!
SHE IS AN INTERNATIONAL RIDER YOU BITCH
aw poor ellen! i was told she had a minor concusion thats why she didnt do the puissans! x
omg im sad amy iv spent an hour readin the comments xxxxxx
i went on friday tooo :P :D xxxxxx
to whatever person we are arguing with: if you don't half halt horses who have a strong lead to the jump, they will take a bad spot, or over jump and then have the chance of HURTING THEMSELVES. What would you liked her to have done? She was in no way ripping on the horses face it is called a strong half halt. I don't like using them either but if you need to too control the horse it needs to be done. though, I would love to know what kind of push button horses you are riding hahaha
@ColouredEquine yeh it was something like that, mahoosive! xxx
@annaunddaslicht never heard/seen anything about her being cruel to her horses. And when she left the arena after this fall she gave the horse a pat and left the arena? :S
please can i use this in a video? thanks
ye but if u dont skip then u get 2 see the jumps
They are actually used to prevent a horse from crossing its jaw, they are nothing to do with breathing. god its a worry!
@ChloeG1024 Yeh :) let me know when the video is done please xx
Scoutpup you are right a lot of girls do that and I love all the horses I have rode in my 8 years of riding. No I don't have a horse but ever time I win or not win I still say "you did will" to the other girls. I have never fallen off a horse and I hope not to because my mom is a X-tech and she was scared to even see me get on a horse but now she loves to see me ride!
Neoma Fernstables well ur gonna fall off a lot then in ur further riding life if u continue
@CheckerdSailor
But the horse had the right stride..... x
hey can i use this please?
Can i use this please??
what are you supposed to use, then? Nosebands restrict horses breathing and pulling on them makes it harder for them to breathe, bits don't interupt air flow as horses don't breathe through their mouth.
@xXFunkyFillyXx yeh! :( haha thanks :P xxx
@annaunddaslicht yeah coz falling off is really cruel..??
horses' skin is really thick, hitting doesn't hurt them like it hurts us. She was the only person in the situation and as a skilled rider she obviously felt it was necessary to hit the horse-this could have been for safety, if her horse learns that it's ok to refuse all the time she is a lot more likely to fall, and if the horse had not been 100% going for that fence the next time there could have been an accident.
0:48 at vaguely the start of her fall.
the horse was rushing the jumps abit so i can see why she had her reins tight. after all, you dont know the horse so you cant make assumptions about her riding ability.
For a starter Ellen Whittaker didn't "beat" her horse it's called discipline, you won't find any good horse that has never had a "smack" in it's life she obviously doesn't want her horse spoilt. She has an amazing talent and the horses don't do the work for her, its 60% horse and 40% rider, when you can ride as well as her then you can criticize her but until then keep your mouth shut!! Secondly She doesn't yank on their mouth the adjusts strides and her horses buck because they are either youn
oh look, another natural horseman who thinks that every piece of tack is going to harm a horse for life.
Do you mind not commenting on your own SNOBBISH LIFE.?
Probably!
Poor Ellen :O
If you're going to be like that, you'd probably like to know that a full stop generally follows that sentence...
and I've said, I don't like how Ellen is riding and how she doesn't let go of her reins.
That said, just because your horse was abused doesn't mean that it's an excuse to let him get away with things. It sounds like he knows that using a bit means he can be naughty, and you won't punish him for it. Plenty of abused horses have bits and work fine, using the excuse 'he was abused' really counts for nothing.
My boy has a bit because he's strong, and you need control. He has a strong bit.
poor ellen! :( she was doing so well!
yeh that's fine :) x
how else is she supposed to make the horse slow down huh?
yes she shouldn't be constantly pulling at the bit but this arena isn't that big and negotiating turns, at the right speed and the correct amount of strides, these horses are often energetic and need a little bit of reinforcement to make the horse listen. Just reminding you that the horse weighs so much more and it takes heaps of skill to work out the strategy that works best for you, in her case it is making the horse listen.
Oooh. TALENTED Rider and Horse. :/ Bad fall though! :( xx
Horse slaughter is done very humanley in the Uk, having rescued 3 horses from slaughter I should know, its very pain free and calm and they have to have DEFRA vets there and clean the whole place out after every horse to keep the stress levels down! Sorry if you think this horse went for slaughter but I very much doubt it did, and yes top competition horses that have lost their buzz do go for slaughter unfortunately but its a fact of life and its not your decision.
Ouch. That had to hurt!
@gammon30162 There's no video evidence that has been uploaded. Consider this: of course there is no video evidence, no one wants to persecute her because she's loved by the fans of this sport. If this was escalated, the committee would come under fire from animal rights groups, but there are accounts of people seeing her get frustrated and beat her horse. I am quite sure she was embarrassed and doesn't do it anymore or at least does it later when there are no cameras around.
@mystables97 If they had dodgy legs i don't think they'd be jumping this height lol :L I just think horses deserve to be out in the field, to be themselves for longer than an hour a day! Horses can't be wrapped up in bubble wrap for the sake of competitions, their well being is far more important... but that's just MY opinion :)
smart horse
But some nosebands put pressure right on their airway, restricting airflow
I advise Ellen to buy some super glue :)
@HorseLoverMimi either 5th or 6th :L:)xxx She Done really well only girl :)x
The horse never completed his lead after the jump toi so he was crossed up some horses dont like jumping crossed upup
@tulipsxw2 I'm not denying that horses are slaughtered, I'm aware of that and think it's terrible (although don't really see how it's very different from other animal slaughter) but the horses being slaughtered are NOT top competition horses who are no longer competing, they are normally unwanted + unridden (not saying that's a good thing.) I think racehorses who don't make it are occasionally killed but racing is a different sport to showjumping/dressage/eventing.
@FrancescaHopee
Ohh.. looks like on the vid if he fitted another one in he would of got too close? and then took off were he stopped would of been to far away
lol now they have to fix the jump again :D
@liviandbarney haha yeh!xxxxx
Hehe, I was there when this happened XD I remember my face went from O.o to - -_- She's fine, all cool, all cool.