It's a very unique look into the sound building process for what would eventually become his first album. What strikes me is how much more 80's it sounds than what we got in 89. A lot of these sounds were on the way out, the quick strike tempo was going out of style, but from a band like NIN it's almost this charming preamble into what industrial would turn into. Trent's voice is so much more intense as where in the albums he's more variable imo.
Out of all of Trent's work done in the 1980s, this song's sound is the most indebted to the era in my opinion, not in a bad way, it's just unique considering what he would be known for going forward.
Ever look into slam bamboo? One of the bands Trent used to be in before NIN. Sounds a lot like this. Seriously. Very very similar but with a different singer. Trent was on keyboard. You might like that. I'm just discovering all these old bands Trent was in and all these demo tapes, unreleased songs now and I absolutely am in bliss cause I'm a hardcore NIN fan and this is like getting more and more songs.
@@lucifer2b666It’s been four years but do you have any favorites you’d recommend to use as jumping off points to get into his other stuff? I’ve only listened to nin, htda, and his scores with Atticus Ross but i wanna branch out more into some earlier stuff
@@Gggly2513 It's pretty hard to find his older stuff because a lot of the bands he was a part of didn't record studio quality stuff or it's basically lost media at this point. But basically what I did before was look up the bands he was apart of on Wikipedia and through articles and interviews and then search the band names with Trent Reznor as well. So I'd type something like "Slam Bamboo Trent Reznor" and see what songs he was involved with and listen to those if they're on TH-cam. Some songs have been taken down since I posted that comment 4-5 years ago. The singer of Slam Bamboo actually has a channel where he used to reply to comments asking about Trent and the band but I'm unsure if the channel exists anymore or if he responds to anybody anymore. Just try to look up online what bands he was in and search to see if any of his songs are online with that band. Unfortunately a lot of it is just lost to time. You can find some records and stuff for his early works but they're outrageously expensive to get a hold of physically so I never went that route. Some of the music is good but generally a lot of his early work is very 80's average run of the mill synth pop and such.
All the people here and elsewhere asking who hurt trent. Have you never been 20 something, and in a breakup, where the breakup is the end of the world? Being overly dramatic and self-deprecating as you are, you realize you are the victim, and somebody else is 100% at fault, because YOU never make mistakes, and go write songs and lyrics about it. Somehow this felt so relate-able to me, and doesn't necessarily mean that trent has been abused in a relationship.
I feel this song is sort of a lash at the significant other who pretends that you're the problem for everything. It's a very sarcastic kind of played out motif where the lyrics are poised in a "deserving" manner whilst explaining the overly dramatic nonsense the significant other is shoveling. Obviously the person being lambasted isn't the problem, it's the significant other. The thing is it's hard to tell if the person likes it or not, if they're just going with the flow or if it's actually waning on them. The most telling stanza is: "So once again the way you feel will never ever stay the same" "And I'm to blame" "I wonder just who made the rules up for this game" "Well I guess I just don't understand about what you want and what you need" "And I guess I just don't understand about why this is how it has to be" Keywords here are "So once again" implying this is a revolving circumstance they're stuck in and that he enjoys it. Overall it just sounds like this is a big sadomasochistic thrill for masturbatory denial. The theme however is emotional manipulation. It also seems like the significant other is not aware of their behavior even though the person is aware of it. Totally narcissism but it's deeper because there's a reciprocation and enjoyment from the abuse. Which sounds pretty Trent for some reason idk why.
I can't believe that what I feel is really happening to me. Make it hurt and point the finger at my insecurities. Well I guess I just don't understand about those complexities in your mind. And I guess I just don't understand why this world seems so unkind. Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming. Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming to me. So once again the way you feel will never ever stay the same. And I'm to blame. I wonder just who made the rules up for this game. Well I guess I just don't understand about what you want and what you need. And I guess I just don't understand about how it has to be. Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming. Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming to me. Oh! You sat down on this bed and you said: "Christ, what the hell do you think this place is?" You know. He just couldn't believe it! And I said: "I don't know but it sure is something different" So go ahead, you say those thousand things you think you have to say. Look at me, and tell me love's not such a hard word anyway. Well how can you count on me, I thought you realized for sure. And how can you just believe, I thought I deserved just a little more. Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming. Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming to me. Oh God! Oh what's coming to me...
My favorite proto-PHM song! I fell in love with this one when I bought the bootleg of these demos and wished he had kept it on for the album. Alas, it didn’t fit with the aesthetic of what NIN became. Still a great song!
Every. Damn. Feminist. I interpret this song to be like some blue pilled dude getting friendzoned each encounter and then becoming an asshole to women to then starting to get what was coming for him in the first place (actual intimacy).
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I fucking love this song. Such a shame it didn't make it past this demo.
this guy remastered the whole album, it sounds pretty good th-cam.com/video/SPuVy65V1uQ/w-d-xo.html
I hear that, but also love its demo, semi-secret, past-ghost status. Kinda gives it an extra edge. 🤘🎶💎
Sounds like Head Like A Hole's cousin
It's a very unique look into the sound building process for what would eventually become his first album. What strikes me is how much more 80's it sounds than what we got in 89. A lot of these sounds were on the way out, the quick strike tempo was going out of style, but from a band like NIN it's almost this charming preamble into what industrial would turn into.
Trent's voice is so much more intense as where in the albums he's more variable imo.
It honestly doesn't fit the whole vibe of Pretty Hate Machine. But I definitely see it fitting in a more Depeche Mode inspired album
This is one of my all time favorite NIN songs from the early era, I'd love it if this actual saw the light of day again in 2024.
All the cheesiness of the 80’s but all the brilliance of Trent. Best song of its era.
This song. Discovered on Napster circa 1999. Still a guilty pleasure.
It should always be free art. Napster helped discover a lot of artist also. Awesome this is uploaded. Thanks
@@JohnThomas-th6gm Artists should work for free? Shall we enslave them and put them on art plantations?
Free? The stuff doesn’t grow on trees. Paying for art is important
Out of all of Trent's work done in the 1980s, this song's sound is the most indebted to the era in my opinion, not in a bad way, it's just unique considering what he would be known for going forward.
The instrumental is probably the most happier thing that they've made
Wait until you hear their song “Everything”
@@serioussowhy1011 yeahh I forgot about that song, amazing as well
This And Everything 😂
@@serioussowhy1011Everything is NOT a happy song!
this would have been among the best tracks on pretty hate machine! always been a favorite of mine, along with the other version of ringfinger.
iamnobody2 you have EXCELLENT TASTE MY FRIEND
Ever look into slam bamboo? One of the bands Trent used to be in before NIN. Sounds a lot like this. Seriously. Very very similar but with a different singer. Trent was on keyboard. You might like that. I'm just discovering all these old bands Trent was in and all these demo tapes, unreleased songs now and I absolutely am in bliss cause I'm a hardcore NIN fan and this is like getting more and more songs.
Love this song so much!
@@lucifer2b666It’s been four years but do you have any favorites you’d recommend to use as jumping off points to get into his other stuff? I’ve only listened to nin, htda, and his scores with Atticus Ross but i wanna branch out more into some earlier stuff
@@Gggly2513 It's pretty hard to find his older stuff because a lot of the bands he was a part of didn't record studio quality stuff or it's basically lost media at this point. But basically what I did before was look up the bands he was apart of on Wikipedia and through articles and interviews and then search the band names with Trent Reznor as well. So I'd type something like "Slam Bamboo Trent Reznor" and see what songs he was involved with and listen to those if they're on TH-cam. Some songs have been taken down since I posted that comment 4-5 years ago. The singer of Slam Bamboo actually has a channel where he used to reply to comments asking about Trent and the band but I'm unsure if the channel exists anymore or if he responds to anybody anymore. Just try to look up online what bands he was in and search to see if any of his songs are online with that band. Unfortunately a lot of it is just lost to time. You can find some records and stuff for his early works but they're outrageously expensive to get a hold of physically so I never went that route. Some of the music is good but generally a lot of his early work is very 80's average run of the mill synth pop and such.
All the people here and elsewhere asking who hurt trent. Have you never been 20 something, and in a breakup, where the breakup is the end of the world? Being overly dramatic and self-deprecating as you are, you realize you are the victim, and somebody else is 100% at fault, because YOU never make mistakes, and go write songs and lyrics about it. Somehow this felt so relate-able to me, and doesn't necessarily mean that trent has been abused in a relationship.
yeah it's more about narcissism imo
So the other person is always in the right? What?
@@respobabs Seems like you've never gotten screwed over before, give it about 4 years.
I feel this song is sort of a lash at the significant other who pretends that you're the problem for everything.
It's a very sarcastic kind of played out motif where the lyrics are poised in a "deserving" manner whilst explaining the overly dramatic nonsense the significant other is shoveling.
Obviously the person being lambasted isn't the problem, it's the significant other. The thing is it's hard to tell if the person likes it or not, if they're just going with the flow or if it's actually waning on them.
The most telling stanza is:
"So once again the way you feel will never ever stay the same"
"And I'm to blame"
"I wonder just who made the rules up for this game"
"Well I guess I just don't understand about what you want and what you need"
"And I guess I just don't understand about why this is how it has to be"
Keywords here are "So once again" implying this is a revolving circumstance they're stuck in and that he enjoys it.
Overall it just sounds like this is a big sadomasochistic thrill for masturbatory denial. The theme however is emotional manipulation. It also seems like the significant other is not aware of their behavior even though the person is aware of it. Totally narcissism but it's deeper because there's a reciprocation and enjoyment from the abuse. Which sounds pretty Trent for some reason idk why.
Dirk, Dirk, Dirk! What a Jerk! There's pigs everywhere! I thought you were my pizza, but you were just my heartbreak!
I have this CD. Pride and joy.
The original Nine Inch Nails was so "Tears For Fears"-esque.
I think the band you are thinking of is Information Sociey, not Tears for Fears.
@@willypete3947 i think the band you are thinking of is weezer, not information society
@@gravyfries5785I think the band you’re thinking of is Depeche Mode, not Weezer.
@@willypete3947 I honestly never heard of Information Society.
@@gravyfries5785 Weezer is 90's. LOL
This song will always have a place in my heart
Trent Reznor is one of the greatest forces ever
And I want to cuddle with him lol
my all time favorite nin song
Travis Lovestein mine too
This is a great song, but I can see why it didn't make it onto "Pretty Hate Machine". It's just not dark enough.
A few cups of darkness and you have Sin.
Yes
This must have been before Stephanie & Dirk showed up and stole his pizza and made fun of his home decor.
This is so damn cool. I wish Trent would make another synthpop album... just once....
I know this demo version of the album isn’t as dark as he ended up wanting it to be but it’s still great
If Pretty Hate Machine had a baby with Miami Vice, this would be it.
Favorite NIN song hands down
No one is taking about how amazing this melody is. How did he come up with this stuff?
I can't believe that what I feel is really happening to me.
Make it hurt and point the finger at my insecurities.
Well I guess I just don't understand about those complexities in your mind.
And I guess I just don't understand why this world seems so unkind.
Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming.
Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming to me.
So once again the way you feel will never ever stay the same.
And I'm to blame. I wonder just who made the rules up for this game.
Well I guess I just don't understand about what you want and what you need.
And I guess I just don't understand about how it has to be.
Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming.
Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming to me. Oh!
You sat down on this bed and you said:
"Christ, what the hell do you think this place is?"
You know. He just couldn't believe it!
And I said: "I don't know but it sure is something different"
So go ahead, you say those thousand things you think you have to say.
Look at me, and tell me love's not such a hard word anyway.
Well how can you count on me, I thought you realized for sure.
And how can you just believe, I thought I deserved just a little more.
Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming.
Maybe. Maybe just once. I get what's coming to me.
Oh God! Oh what's coming to me...
Thanks for posting lyrics. Lyric websites are a mess. Pop up ads always trying to block everything.
Deserves more recognition, great song
Amazing. Thank you for uploading.
I bought this album back in 93-94 from a place called "7th heaven" in KC.
That's fucking awesome. 7th Heavens downstairs music store is legit.
I got from a guy who got from seventh heaven on a tape. Then I gave it to a guy who gave it to strange music guys. I never saw that tape again.
On Troost.
This song by sampled 80's film Diner (Mickey Rourke and Ellen Barkin).
My favorite proto-PHM song! I fell in love with this one when I bought the bootleg of these demos and wished he had kept it on for the album. Alas, it didn’t fit with the aesthetic of what NIN became. Still a great song!
Pure nostalgia thank you Trent Reznor 🙏 ❤️ 🙌 one of the greatest memories and best voices of my youth ❤️ hearing trents voice takes me home 🏡
This is truly one of the songs ever.
This is the weirdest NIN song ever
It’s so bad 😭
I get NewOrder vibes from the music and some of the lyrics.... never heard this before...odd to hear Trent do pop stuff...cool tho
I love this song
This song has grown on me... lol
This is amazing
Trent who hurt you :/
Every. Damn. Feminist. I interpret this song to be like some blue pilled dude getting friendzoned each encounter and then becoming an asshole to women to then starting to get what was coming for him in the first place (actual intimacy).
SJWs FIST FUCK
@@Rayquesto I mean... That's your interpretation. I think Trent just seriously got hurt.
@dave yen, very cringy interpretation
You mean before Tori Amos?
Genesis meets NIN
If Ministry can play “with sympathy” then Trent can play this
Animotion+New Order?
Maybe some psychedelic furs lol
It sounds like the mix of all songs on PHM
love this!
Fucking classic.
🖤🖤🖤🖤
charlotte stop rolling over and dying every time you listen to 80s era treznor shit challenge [FAILED INSTANTLY]
This is incredible, but I get why Trent never revisited it. Not the NIN vibe. Would love to see New Order cover it instead.
lol i just made the thumbs up 666 =D
Anyone else think this might be a early demo for head like a hole
Pieces of it found their way into a few songs from the era
Anyone know about the samples (3:00) from this track? Wondered for ages
wolfmanjacksaid yeah I think it's ur grandpappy
@@bradbradlylife9918 lmfao
Genesis - Invisible Touch.
You're welcome.
It's a great song, but if it went any further with the cheesy pop beats it would be straight option 30.
Are you saying this isn't Option 30?
Halo 0 lol :)
Fukin sweet like holy ship haaaaaaaaaa
Russia announces its Nuclear threat and this comes onto my feed-
🧿👁🧿
🪬
Just once ... Lol
Why can’t this be on Spotify 😢
This is the only NIN song I can think of that includes the word “love”.
The Only Time - Pretty Hate Machine
@@AlekaJude got me. Can’t believe I forgot that opening line. 😂
"Love is not enought" " All the love in the world"
The Lovers.
How muck over played boring factory nine inch nails have we heard for like 30 years...
Lmao. Yuck. Takes balls to put this out there.
You clearly don’t know the history of Trent reznor.