An Honest Breakdown of Scottie Pippen
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- In this video, I give a short and honest assessment on what I believe is the true value of Scottie Pippin, regardless of what LeBron or Jordan fans would want you to think...
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At his best, how good was Scottie Pippen? A top 2, 3, 5, 10, 15 or 20 player?
NOTE: Thanks for the positive feedback on the Ultimate Teams Series. I will continue it since so many of you want it. The Ultimate Bucks Team drops tomorrow... UPDATE: Dame just got traded to the Bucks.... sooo tomorrows video will be about that. The day AFTER tomorrow will be the Ultimate Bucks Team (lol, convenient timing).
Top 20.
Top 3 defensive player, top 20 overall
Top 5 defensively
I don't understand, is this question about all time players, or only players in his era. If we talk only about 90s, at his best Pippen was probably top 10
@@chitownsuperfan all time?? I don't think so. But if you talk about 90s, I definitely agree.
Its crazy. Jordan has basically the same stats as Pippen but with 12 more points
Exactly. They were so similar in every area other than as a scorer. If Pippen averaged 30 a game on 50% shooting, then he was basically Michael Jordan. lol.
those are averages. 32pts means this guys is occasionally scoring 40s and 50s. 20pt average mean this guys is occassionally scoring 12 and 15
@@jonnyarnettthank you so much making this video this is why scottie pippen will never be at the level of micheal jordan
@@jonnyarnettyou are the second best youtube channel of all times
@@silvionSalsa i know what averages are
I think Pippen reached the level of a top ten player in '94 (the season after MJ retired). Except for defense, he wasn't a master of any stat category, but neither were most stars. If you're a "jack of all trades, master of none" you tend to be underrated (yet effective). Scottie wasn't as flashy as many others, but he flat out did all the things required to improve your team, and did them all well. That should count a lot.
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That’s similar to Kawhi
It counts a lot to me and why he is my favorite player.
The "and help me get my new truck!"
Made me giggle like a little kid, caught me by surprise 😅😅
Lol
Jonny gettin that bag. Good for him.
In regards to defense. One thing people don't seem to pay attention to is the 1991 finals. The reason the Bulls made the switch to have Scottie guard Magic instead of MJ guarding Magic is not cuz MJ was having trouble with Magic. They made the switch because Scottie was getting eaten alive by James Worthy. So they made the switch. In fact, Magic's scoring went up when Scottie switched on him
This. if people actually watch the tape, Magic had 0 points when MJ was guarding him. Worthy was killing Pippen.
@@_M.... facts!
Thank you, injured Worthy was roasting Pippen, while MJ was doing a great good job on Magic.
Jordan guarded Magic 85% of the time in 91
Every last one of you and your revisionist history lol
1:27 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i respect the honesty regarding wanting your truck Johnny lol
What you failed to mention was that Pippen himself said he needed MJ's guidance and push to become the player he was. Without MJ, Pippen would've been just another average player and we probably wouldn't even know who he is.
No. Guidance is great. But he had to do the work. First and foremost Sottie pushed himself. Mj added and extra push
@@RLSmith-jt8qj Maybe so. But if it hadn't been for MJ Pippen wouldn't have done the work to begin with. Pippen, himsel,f said so.
@@Fernando-vg4ym He still has to do the work. And no one can do that but him.
@@RLSmith-jt8qj I'm not arguing that point. But without MJ's push, he would not have done the work to begin with.
How tf can you say that with no proof. All that probably crap makes no sense when it didn't happen and can't go back to prove it. They both impacted each other on the court. They made each other better. U do realize Jordan didn't win anything without Scotty?
When we think of top 5, 10, 20 players, it's usually players who can take over a game. Scottie Pippen was never that kind of player. But if you needed opponents' top players locked down, Pippen was your man for sure. Being able to drop twenty was an added bonus, which is why he worked so well with Jordan.
For me he’s #27
He could score 30 in any given game He could TAKE OVER GAMES with JUST HIS SCORING!!!!! In addition to that he was one of the players that had the best "floor and hustle game" which was like Bird adn Magic's Floor games.
Pippen is BIRD AND MAGIC MIXED WITH DR J AND JORDAN. THAT IS PIPPEN!!!!
Do you forget how good he played without Jordan during MJ's first retirement, and when he played for the Blazers? Scotty was that dude, and every team knew it. Teams planned for him as well as MJ. Like people who actually played with him and against him have said that, but u people who watched from the sidelines want say different. Please make that make sense
Unless the opposing player is very good, like Wilkins, Mashburn, Grant Hill, Penny, and Magic.
@@thoughtsofalostoneofalosto2591 people that watched from the sidelines are more knowledgeable of what took place than people that didnt watch at all. Duhhhh
Do you remember how good he was when Jordan retired? Or when he was the 3rd or 4th leading scorer with Portland? How bout how he sucked in Houston? Im sure you dont remember what you didnt see but want to talk about as if you did.
The “new truck” part caught me off guard! 😂
Pippen was really good, imo his offense was not that great bc he was molded by the Bulls to be focused on other areas, as Jordan carried the offense.
Great video, man! 🙏🏽
Firstly, I hope you get your new truck. Your channel, the Thinking basketball channel for film study, and Secret base’s channel for what was going on in the locker room/ media wise have been great for researching the nuances of the game that get blurred out due to recency bias.
This video in particular means a lot to me as a young basketball fan who’s learning about Pippen without him being over or underrated due to the “Goat debate”. I personally have Pippen top 50 all time and top 15 in the entire 90’s.
Pippen lost his mind once his son died, his wife got smashed by future (and now the GOAT’s son) and his wallet went MIA. I honestly feel sorry for the dude. Let’s all chip in $3.50 for Scottie!
Who smashed his wife? What wallet lol
@@kenw2225 LOL
@kenw2225 one of MJ's sons hooked up with Larsa Pippen a few years ago. There's pics of them together
In some ways it is tough for pippen. I mean he is top hundred player all time. Yet he will always be in Jordans shadow.
And I bet he still lives better than you, and accomplished more than you.
Grant Hill was closer to “Lebron before Lebron” than Scottie was.
I agree. Both Hill and Scottie have made this claim, but it carried more weight when Hill said it. Dude could score like LeBron, and was also a Triple-Double threat consistently. Plus Hill's health never allowed him to reach his full potential, which also works in his favor when making such a bold claim.
Bulls wanted to trade Pippen for grant Hill and they got laughed at.
I disagree, lebron has the passing gift. That bird magic awareness. But the speed, athleticism, with the size is what makes lebron different. Neither pippen or hill were ever lebron. That’s not a diss they are amazing and at their peaks legendary point forwards.
Absolutely
@@Getdown8319 the Q is who's _closer_ to LeBron, not who's just like him.
You can do this kind of comparison between literally ~any~ 3 players.
Shout out to Jonny for uploading consistent quality content 💪
It'd be kinda cool to see a video of your top 20 role players of all time. We talk so much about who the top superstars are but never feature the people who helped them acquire team accolades.
This is probably the most important comment on this post we act as if it isn't a team sport
The thing about Isiah and Magic is they could score 40 any time they wanted to but chose to do 10-15 assists instead most of the time. Such point guards no longer exist.
Some argue that in general averaging ten assists or more means your offense was too predictable.
Maybe there’s more ball movement now?
And now you got Jokic who can pretty much do the same plus having minimum 10 rebounds a game...
@@fortynights1513 If it's too predictable then wouldn't the defense prevent the assists? I think such a statement leaves out too many details, like 'is the point guard actually trying to score?"
@@fortynights1513or maybe different systems for different rules / eras.
The ball dominating point guard was ideal for setting up low post threats. Inside-out hall.
I think the triangle offense being implemented and winning many titles led to the evolution of the game. Phil Jackson talked recently in his interview with Scott Williams on how he thought point guard offenses were vulnerable and he thought he can counter with pressure.
That worked well in 1991 and in 98 vs Magic Johnson and Mark Jackson, but neither had the crucial low post threat. Plus Magic was already battle worn and could no longer deal with full court press like he did 87 and earlier. (He was already struggling with Joe Dumars and Rodman’s press in 88 as he no longer had the quickness and stamina)
Trae young is like this
He was likely the best glue man in the history of the league. From what I remember, shooting was his greatest offensive liability, even as the leader of the Jordanettes, as the 1994 Bulls were nicknamed. :)
Jordan was also extremely capable of staying in front of the defender, at least up until the first retirement. I wouldn't say Pippen was better at defense, and I don't think he deserved it more than Jordan, but yes, I do think he should have gotten at leas one nod.
Facts
Pippin defended the best players on the court every game. Like what are you talking about. Phil literally assigned Scotty to the opponents best player. Like do y'all do some research before commenting.
@@thoughtsofalostoneofalosto2591 He did not. Phil usually assigned defensive tasks by position. So if Scottie defended the best player, it was because the best opponent was at 3.
@@manwerama Go do some fking research before commenting. Phil has said and Jordan
@@thoughtsofalostoneofalosto2591 If you actually watched any games, you wouldn't have to go by what anybody said.
As a fan of his, I really wish he won DPOY or FMVP at least once, but it's really hard to shine brighter than Jordan when he's on your team, or even in general. Still, he was half of the greatest duo in basketball, and that deserves a lot of praise.
Him not winning a DPOY is an absolute joke. He was for me the best defender in their 72-10 run back in 96, but when it comes to the FMVP, MJ was the clear cut best player on all 6 titles.
I completely agree with you, I've said it many times, Pip was an elite defender but needed just a little bit more constancy on his offense
Get that truck Jonny! Lfg!
Lol. I love you guys man. So freakin supportive as always
I watched all of the 92 Dream Team Olympics and the Crowds turned out for ever game. Also they were all on TNT.
What I noticed is that the Announcers from Britain all said they were Blown Away by Scottie Pippen the Most. They said he is the Smoothest Athlete they had ever seen in the open court.
Also when he and Mullin were on the floor they would average an absurd 50 points each per 48 mintues and 10 Steals each per 48 minutes and 12 assists each per 48 minutes and for whatever reason worked perfect as team mates with the full court pressure they put on in the back court for steals and quick scores. The lead would go from 12 to about 35 in about 4 minutes when Pippen and Mullin would go into the game.
So for what ever reason Scottie does very Well with a Spot up 6'6 Shooter that is quick, Fast and Smart. As does Mullin does very well with a tall angular Fast Ball Handling pass first 6'8 Ultra Athletic Guard.
Yes Pippen would've won a Title or Two in Golden State with Hardaway and Mullin. Pippen would've been the FInals MVP and League MVP.
lets get Jonny that truck!
Lol. Thanks man!
Pippin was my favorite player growing up, but I knew even then, Mike was the best player & why. Pip was a playmaker, important part of the game flow.
Pip was a top 10 player simply because there were so many bigs that had real arguments for being the best player in the game had it not been for Jordan. I would say he was arguably one of the top 2 or 3 wings in the between like 93-96 or 97.
Jordan playing more risky defense was a reality when doug Collins was the coach because that was his system, This stopped when Phil became a coach. I remember a game (it's in youtube) where grant Hill was killing Scotty. I mean killing him, watch the game. Jordan said "that's enough of this", switched to him and slowed hill down significally. it was day and night. i really don't buy the argument in the video. tittle of the video is "Michael Jordan vs Grant Hill Highlights (1998.03.31)-63pts Combine! Pip Got Roasted but MJ Steps Up!"
That was in 98 right? They were older and Pip had been injured for a large part of that season. Didn't you watch the last dance? lol I'd need to look up the stats but Jordan was at least healthy while Pippen was still getting his legs under him in many ways.
I remember this game as well.. Jordan was definitely the better defender of the two.
I was born in 1996 so i’ve never had the chance to see him play live. But based on the tapes i’ve seen, and things i have heard and read, i think it is safe to say at his best Pippen was in the top 10 range
I agree overall with all you said. Pippen I'd say was a top 10 player in the 90s, maybe at times top5.
I would add something though: he was even better on defense than you described. In fact, he was amazing at double teaming and recovering, and at covering space while still staying with his man. He basically defended 3 positions by himself at times.
The more I learn about the championship Bulls teams, the more I appreciate how well the team fit together. Pippen, Kerr, and Rodman weren't superstars, but they were some of the best role players in the exact ways needed to round out the team
Get that truck, brother. Great video as ALWAYS.
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Pippen wasn't even considered the best SF in the game early late 80s early 90s it was Dominique and mid late 90s it was Grant Hill (the real LeBron before LeBron)
Pippen was always a top three small forward offensively, and defensively he was the best small forward in the league by a mile. So yes he was hands down the best small forward of his time. Wilkins and Hill couldnt do as much things as Pippen could on both ends of the floor.
@@juve4690 If you want to do the entire decade sure I'll give it to Pippen but when picking what particular year or years he was the best sf for that particular year you'll probably draw a blank
@@juve4690 nope. Try harder trolll
@@Tonio5100 you're not giving it to Pippen
Love how your being honest about the views 😂
Great video and well said
I think the year that he received some MVP votes was a year that he was top 10 player in the league. His defense was so stellar that at times he might be over valued a bit. I’m comfortable saying he was top 10 player because of the defense, but by 98 after that injury he was never on that level again.
Chuck Daly, Hubie Brown, Magic Johnson, and Isiah Thomas in 1994 said he is the best player in the NBA. None of you have a memory.
@@JimBrave-ri1oc he was great, but no one was better than Hakeem that year! Regardless of what any great says.
Would lebron be better than Hakeem that year? Cause they were talking about Wings. That is how the media always talked starting in the mid 90's they wanted to sell the Wing players. Yes Hakeem and Robinson are up there however Scottie is a SF GUARD and he was the BEST. @@shermanglenn3926
What truck are you getting? I always enjoy the uploads.
Lol. Not sure yet. My editor asked me the same question. I told him to just put a Black Dodge Ram in the video, but the only thing I'm sure on is the color. I'm open to suggestions. The one thing I know is that I'll need to haul a lot with it, so it needs a decent size truck bed and some power.
I have never considered Pippen at the same level of other superstars. He was a star but not a franchise player .
But dame is a franchise player
underrated...top25 all time easily
Bird has commented on this, _I believe he (Michael Jordan) had the second best player in the league right next to him in Scottie Pippen. You take Michael off that team, and Scottie moves down to fifth. But when Michael was out there with him, they were the best two in the league,"_ . My own view is a little less on Pippen's side anymore, and I'm a guy that had a Pippen binder in school. You see, MJ once remarked that, if he had team of Danny Ainges, he could've ruled the league and I believe it. Certain all-time greats have their bases covered and the rest depends on their team. To use Bird again, like MJ, Bird spent his career being the irreplaceable factor. The man had to go back out and play with a concussion and fractured cheek to save a game, whereas his rivals, the Lakers, always had the manpower to spare. MJ, was the catalyst, for the big plays, for Chicago. He was the one who could get them there AND finish on top. He was the one who was ready for the big moments, it was up to whether his supporting cast could keep up. There is a reason why MJ was able to basically keep up with Pippen's stats while averaging 30+.
Wahaa! Loved new truck comment. 😂
For me Pippen was a top 10 player in the league and i think that's reflected decently in the MVP voting. 92, 94, 95, 96, 97 top 10. When he wasn't injured, he was top 10, but injuries and a slower start to his career make him top 20
Really enjoy your videos. - It seems like Pippen would easily be a top 10 player, but you had a good point about all the killers who were on the court at that time. I'll have to think about that. - And I second the thought that Grant Hill was LeBron before LeBron. You should definitely do a video on that if you haven't already.
We gone get you that truck Jonny 💪🏾💪🏾
this is the Mike Bossy paradox in the NHL. The quebecker connection. Mario Lemieux... Maurice Richard... but then : Guy Lafleur, Marcel Dionne, Luc robitaille... Mike Bossy!!!
Mike Bossy is the baddest MF in PPG in NHL history that never gets recognition, but led a dynasty to 4 consecutive cups in Long Island. When he died,
weeks later at most Guy Lafleur sadly also passed away and overshadowed Mike Bossy again, even in death.
I love comments like this, because it educates me on other sports. I can break things down in Basketball, but outside of that, I often need people to break it down for me. lol
I was a fan of basket since about 1994-95. NBA Jam T.E. made me forever
6:20ish
I wonder why people like showing Pippen guarding Magic and often bring up as some great defensive performance. If you watched the game, Magic had his way with Pippen and Pippen didn't guard him that much. Jordan locked Magic down well though.
It does look cool though.
Dope truck man
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Also...I love the honesty about the truck. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I think the comparison is warranted. I think both LeBron and Pippen are more limited offensively from a skill set perspective when comparing them to other all time great scorers like MJ, Steph, Durant. I think the thing that really separates Scottie from LeBron is pure athletic ability. Pippen was a great athlete but LeBron won the genetic lottery and being that big and that fast and that coordinated it opens up avenues of attack that would otherwise be closed to you.
WTF are you talking about? They both hit the athletic lottery. U need to see all the centers Scotty dunked on. It's like y'all make these assessments up just to look intelligent.
I remember Scottie from his playing days he was never a dominate scorer.
good luck on the new truck brother
Jonny Arnett! Can you do a video on Dame going to the Bucks? Thoughts, and maybe a video on how they will do this few upcoming years? Love the Vids!
In the decade of the 1990s Pippen is at best a top 7 player, lowest is about top 12.
Scottie is not an elite scorer but some of his pts were from defensive stops like blocks or steals. He was also a great facilitator and in the 90s era were dominated by BIGS guys like Scottie was kinda rare.
Pippen invented points. meaning he is one of the only guys that can steal the ball then dribble down fast and Jam it. That is 2 Free points that the coach didn't have to draw up and he took 2 points away from the opponent. Also it was always Pippen that got the offense going in teh First Quarter with 10 quick points on Fast breaks. The Pistons said it was Pippen that broke their defense down completely and then allowed Jordan to score later in the games. Pippen was just too fast for any SF.
the transparency of this guy is unmatched
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In his prime Pippen was a consistent top 10. But I do remember the discussions about Pip being the 2nd best player.... I thought of him as a top 5 a few times. He benefited from deep playoff runs & winning . He was a clutch and high performing playoff gamer
Exactly, if people want an honest opinion of how good he was, go back and look at how his peers and the league covered viewed him in the 90s as the bulls won all those championships he was consistently a top 10 player, and often people remarked how amazing the bulls were having "Two" of the leagues best players on won team. Of course he was always in the shadow of Jordan but that doesn't matter, he was great and it's sad now that he always has to kind of brag/defend himself because the basketball narrative these days usually works to diminish him
At minute 6:21 when talking about how Pip stayed in front of his man at all times, you just had to put the man who was cooking my boy in the late 90s Grant Hill's pic as he is driving by Pip.
Now I'm from Chicago born and raised, and while we didn't fear that version of the pistons, Hill would still cook and you just had to put it there at that moment, when making that statement. That is hilarious lol
Pippen is a top 10 player of the 90's, a top 10 defensive player ever, top 10 SF ever and a top 50 player ever.
I'm not really a fan of Pippen, but I can live with that assessment. I think those are realistic rankings, Andrew.
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This is so spot on. Pippen gets so overrated as a player particularly offensively. He was a top 10 player of the 90s but gets constantly ranked in the top 3-5 over guys he was obviously not better like the ones mentioned in the video. He is also a top 10 SF but is constantly mentioned above other players that were clearly better like Baylor, Barry, Havlicek just mainly on popularity or recency bias. Hes a top 30-40 player who is so often even mentioned in the top 20. So much of it is also Lebron fans trying to diminish Mike as I’ve even seen people try to argue Pippen was better than DWade which is just laughable. As great all around as he was he just could not carry a team offensively let alone be the main guy on a championship team.
Even if Pippen was not allowed to shoot he would still beat baylor and barry. He would just focus on 13 assists, 8 steals all for team mate dunks which he passes to them. 3 blocks 8 hard challenges. opponents FG% 21%. 9 rebounds. Wins by 30 points
In the 1994 and 1995 seasons, Scottie Pippin had the 3rd highest BPM. Unfortunutely, those were the seasons without MJ.
In 94 and 95, Reggie Miller from the same division took his Pacers to back 2 back ECF while Pippen could only do one ECSF. When Pippen had to be the leading guy, he couldn't even outdo Miller. He's exactly that - a great #2 guy. He cannot quite shoulder the top dog duty.
We need a video of the new truck after you get it.
I remember that in NBA Live 95 Pippen and Kemp had the same overall rating and this looks very plausible. Kemp wasn't a prolific scorer either but he was a serious threat to any team. They just affected the game differently. Pippen was top 15 back in a day
On NBA LIVE 95 Pippen was rated 95 and that was 3rd place only Robinson, Olajuwon were ahead of him. Kemp was rated a 95 aswell. Kemp could've shot more and averages 24 ppg or whatever but that is not what the Game is all about. Kemp said in interviews he tries to beat the other team on ONE PLAY. ONE BIG JAM that has the other team QUIT~!!!!! JAMS LIKE THAT >>>>> than some shot chucker like lebron that only makes the other team play better and beat lebron.
@@JimBrave-ri1oc I think Malone's rating was higher as well and it was possible to create MJ, Barkley, Bird etc and they appeared with ratings as they were. MJ's was 89, the highest possible was 92. Career highest Kemp's season ppg was 20.5 in Cavs and there he could've scored more, as he was the main option on offense but he didn't despite Brevin Knight was a decent passer. Kemp shoot to many distant mid range shots when he intentionally stepped on the line to avoid shooting threes😄 But more ridiculous thing was in NBA live 98 where they sky rocketed Bulls' bench players overall ratings and guys like Buechler and Wennington became almost stars on paper😄
Let’s help get Jonny his new truck
Pippen finished third in mvp voting for 93-94 season.
The bulls won 55 games in that season
I think it gives better perspective on his greatness than just stat
Jonny is an idiot that has never seen Pippen play game in an game out. Pippen Always Showed up in big games and usually he would steal the tip and race down for a JAM. no player does that now. Pippen was the first ever to do that and the last ever to do that. He would start every game with a FREE THROW JAM.
I wish Scotty would have left for two years instead of Jordan... Pippen was an all time great team player and without doubt could have been a mega star on any other team in any era.
Jonny we need the same to Milwaukee video asap
Working on it. Drops tomorrow
I hope you get that new truck, Jonny!
Lol, thanks!! I'll post it on the channel if/when it happens, and say thanks :)
Been a die-hard Bulls fan since 1987 when Pip and Grant were rookies. Another good video, Jonny. I thought Pippen was going to get DPOY in 1994-1995, but I think it went to Mutombo. I think Pippen has a case for a top-5 player between 1993-1994 through 1995-1996. I believe those were the three years he was all NBA first team. But as you said, he was never an elite scorer. I do enjoy how you called out the extremes in both sides (referring to the LBJ vs MJ fans). I love MJ but I also hate arguing with Jordan fans who are not Bulls fans on the importance of Pippen. I also hate arguing with LBJ fans who try to make it seem like Pippen came into the league as his 1995-1996 version. When the reality is, as you said, it took Pippen a few years to develop offensively.
Hey johnny. You give really good pin point analysis on the NBA! I would like to see you do one on spree. In the 90s he was exiting really good. And when mike left he took that all nba 1st team spot in his 2nd season. Not Mitch, Clyde or Reggie. What do you think?
it's Jonny 😅
Pippen was great at team basketball, He Could impacted the game with out being a top tier player Scorer. And Pippen should have won a defensive player of the year award a few times.
Aye Jonny you might have to take back your Dame take bout him going down as a forgotten player once he retires. He’s with an legendary player in Giannis.
True, but I think I did mention that caveat in the video, because there were trade rumors at that point. If he wins with the Bucks, he’ll be remembered forever, no doubt
@@jonnyarnett Facto. I don’t know how many years Dame have left. They get to the ECF 2-3 years in a row maybe finals win or not, I think Dame’s legacy would definitely change.
I hope my views on your videos paying them bills, these videos are great
They are! Trust me, I’m beyond grateful for you and the rest of the viewers :)
A top 10 player regularly throughout the 90's and as a SF around 6th 7th 8th place with hondo and kawhi
Kawhi is a 2x Finals MVP
@@shaft9000 how many fmvp's would he have won with Jordan on the team.....0 me thinks, and I like kawhi...top 10 SF easily
I hope you got that new truck!
Pippen did have his chance without Jordan for basically 2 whole seasons. His highest ppg w/Jordan was 21.0 ppg. And without Jordan? 22.0 ppg.
So agreed Scottie just wasn't a scorer. He had good stats across the board, but I think him and Jordan are a tie defensively. MJ was better against guards but Pippen was better against bigger players
Dude you deserve to have that new truck.😎
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This is going to get a "truckload" of views.
Brilliant wordplay. lol
I love Pippen as a player and I absolutely think that, with the right squad around him, he could have won a championship and gotten the Finals MVP. And you could not ask for a better defender at his position. But to say that he was the second-best player in the league when Barkley, Malone, Olajuwan, etc. were there is just absurd.
Not as the first option. He underperformed too much in the playoffs.
#GuruBasketballKieroSays let's get that truck Jonny
Pippin would be an asset to any team once he gets on board and there's chemistry. I've seen alot of ballplayers in my day. I believe the players if the 70s-90s were so much better that today? Before the 2000s players litterly had to learn to play with the aggressive tendency of the game back then.
Damn early lol
I hate that offense gets so much love, to a point that it takes away from the legacies of Russell, Big Ben, Gary Payton, and pippen
It's scoring, that gets so much love and it should because that is the whole point of the game and the most important aspect. However defense also is important because if you can't play good defense, you are a liability. And the players in the top that you mention, their legacies is not taken away, it is because they are not a great two way players. Their specialty was defense as opposed to someone like Jordan, Hakeem, or Kobe who are great in both sides of the court. Though I do see to a extent defense should be valued little bit more.
@@faruquekhan3353I notice that in particular if it’s a guard (point in particular) that defense doesn’t come up as much as say for centers or power forwards.
It's because guards just focus only on wing players while centers and power forwards have focus not only on players on their positions but also guards who are coming closer to the basket and help on the block and making them take difficult shots. They get more rebounds and block shots.@@fortynights1513
Though I agree with most everything in this video, his stint with the blazers and in '94 (and tickets if you want), should be considered
Pippin was the best player to ever touch a ball, and no one will ever be better. According to Pippin
As far as where I have Pippen, all the time he's top 40, the perfect Robin to his Batman even though he resents that role, elite defensive player, pretty good offensive player, didn't quite have the intangibles to be the leader on a championship team, but still one of the very best
PIppen was the greatest "Fill In The Gaps" guy of all time. The gaps on great teams rarely involve scoring. Pippen was the second-best player (behind Hakeem) while MJ was retired. It's a shame that "two-way player" is derogative. 19 ppg was very different when teams regularly scored 90 ppg.
If asked to he could average about 25 in the 90's which would be like 32 ppg in todays Green light guard shooting 100 times per game all Guard no key defense league. Yes Pippen would probably be
32
56% shooting
11 Rebounds
11 Assists
3 Steals
2 blocks
holding opponents to 21% shooting
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The mvp voting is the best Measuring stick of who experts thought were the top five in the league each season. Pippen was consensus top 5 only once on his career!
Scottie is the Best All Round Player of All-Time make no mistake about it, very Underrated Player.
Anyone getting into Basketball, Watch and Study Pippen's Game and it'll make you a better All Round Player.
All those stats and facts are very good... BUT
PIPPEN was the 2nd most EXCITING player to watch
IN THE LEAGUE! ✅
Let's help Jonny get his truck, y'all!👍
As strange as it may sound, Jordan's scoring is actually UNDERRATED when you put it in context. He played his entire career without a teammate that could draw a double team away from him. He was a fantastic all around player who in many ways gave up a more balanced stat line because he HAD to score more. The perfect example was Game 6 of the 1998 Finals where Pippen was hurt, the Bulls got nothing offensively from anyone else, an MJ had to carry the load alone. The guy refused to let them lose.
1998 was the premier example of Jordan's will to win. He carried that team I'm surprised it was Scottie who had back problems.
Pippen drew Doubles and Triples EVERY PLAY. PiPPEN WAS THE MAIN BALL HANDLER AND SET UP MAN. PIPPEN was like a mix between Bird, Magic, Dr. J and Jordan.
@@JimBrave-ri1oc Troll attempt is too obvious. Take a lap.
@@DerethAC No, You're the Troll and it's you that needs to take a lap.
Chuck Daly ~"The Bulls Go as Scottie Goes" 1992.
Pat Riley ~ "Scottie Pippen is the best Player at Running an Offense, Creating for others and is the Best Defensive Player in the NBA" 1995.
Pippen is a top 5 SF all time, right behind LeBron, Bird, Durant, Dr J, although arguments could be made for Havlicek, Baylor and Wilkins to be above him. At his peak, for an 8 or 9 year stretch but especially during the two three peats he was definitely the number one SF in the league right when he needed to be.
Hope u get that truck! Love the honesty 🤣🤣
At his peak I’d say he was around top 5 in the league.
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Pippen was not limited in scoring. Had he wanted to he could've averaged 50 a game. He said he wanted to not average more than 25 cause he said someone that averages over 25 can't be a true point guard and he considered himself a True Point Guard. He said many times if he wanted to he could avearge 32 ppg with EASE. However that is not necessarily the best player or best scorer. The best player is the player that wins with the team mates getting their most points.
That's ridiculous. No, he couldn't average 50 nor 40. Maybe he could have averaged 30, but on crappy efficiency. I don't care what he said, he also said he was the 'Goat' in one of his interviews, I care what the tape showed. He was a limited offensive player who relied mostly on his athleticism. He was an inconsistent jump shooter who benefited, in most of his career, from teams focusing defensively on Jordan. We are talking about a guy who shot 47% from the field for his career as a low scoring forward. He shot over 50% in a season twice, in his peak with most makes coming near the rim.
Gotta hear your opinion on dame going to the bucks
Yep, just gathering the information, and I’ll be breaking down my thoughts for tomorrows video
Good luck on your truck!