March 2020 I was diagnosed with None Hodgkins Lymphoma, After my Third chemo therapy treatment I remember sitting in the shower I was sick I was throwing up and I was tired, losing all my hair my body ached, I just felt poisoned and I knew I was only half way through the amount of treatments I had left. I remember sitting there in the shower and thinking to myself Ok im not going to go any further with this, Im going to stop the treatments now and take my chances knowing that was very likely a death sentence for me and the feeling that came over me was comforting, There was this strange comfort in resigning to death, I thankfully immediately recognized it and decided No Im gonna keep going. Here we are 4 years later im in remission god willing I will be here for a long time to watch my kids grow old with their families. Stay positive and do not give up.
Congrats brother. If you don't mind me asking; how did you go about getting diagnosed and what were your earliest symptoms where you knew something was wrong. I've been having some weird lymph node symptoms lately with a family history of lymphoma. Doctors at the VA aren't doing shit to figure it out but I know something just isn't right. Symptoms have been coming and going since covid.
Lost my dad last month and he was my best friend. I’ve never been so close to anyone in my life. This episode was beautiful and really cheered me up. Only other time I’ve seen Joe cry was with David Goggins when they were talking about Goggins mom. Joe holding back tears talking about his grandfather was so beautiful. This is a beautiful episode.
I lost my uncle in May. it's been the worst two months of my life. but I've been trying to keep it together the best I can. This episode is tough to listen to, but I know it's going to help the healing process.
I almost bled to death 3 weeks ago. Once I was stable and could think straight the 1st thing I thought of was the life-giving people that made my transfusions possible. Thank-you to all those who donate blood and give 2nd chances at life to people like me. I will donate again once I'm able ❤❤❤
This is why Rogan is the king. I just started listing to this random guest who I’d never heard of and it is riveting. Joe allows him to talk without the selfish urge to interrupt
Joe’s done other episodes with him. Check out the first one with Sebastian Junger, it’s great. He talks about his book, ‘Tribe’ and how modern society makes people feel inherently lonely and unnecessary. His book is great too, highly recommend.
When I was 16 weeks pregnant I lost my baby boy to a fatal birth defect. I woke up from surgery in a room full of female nurses to a man’s voice calmly saying, “He’s gone.” Not a sad tone, just comforting and very matter of factly and clear as day. I believe 100% that it was the voice of God taking my baby boy home. That experience has really transformed my faith.
My wife had a miscarriage and we found out in an ultrasound. The nurse left the room so we could grieve and while I held my wife she begged God to let her hear the heartbeat just once and I swear to all things holy we heard the heartbeat come from the ultra sound. Can't explain how.
I haven't talked about it much, but my experience with my mother passing, being there watching her get sick & sitting alone many nights with her as I did when she literally took her last breathe, while holding her hand, had an impact on me that I will never recover from, but also changed how I look at life & who we are. My mother saw relatives, interacted with them, during the night, I personally felt spirits around me & her. I'm not religious, but am spiritual.
I’ve had an NDE and I’ve done Ibogaine. Both experiences have opened up enlightenment of something after “death”, ego death, purpose, and love. Just existing now, is such a gift and I believe my existence is the gift of heaven. If you live that way, that this life is a gift, even in the suffering, you can find real gratitude. We can all speculate, the interesting thing is that we will all find out.
4 years ago I cried out to God and was lifted 3 inches out of my physical body. I knew the Holy Spirit was there. I live now in joy and peace with understanding.. It took me a couple months to register that it was real, but through prayer. God gave me three examples to prove to me that it really happened. I also woke the next morning just inherently, knowing without a doubt that everything in the Bible is completely the word of God
Im interested to know , why do you consider it a gift to be allowed a longer life here on earth 🌎 which I really enjoy like you but you know heaven is real , arguably a much better existence?
@@Junglebtc yes my wife gets very upset that I say how I can’t wait to be in His presence again and can’t wait to be rid of the flesh. romans 8:7 explains how our carnal minds and bodies are continually at war against God. I am embarrassed when I say it because think how selfish it is, we have eternity in heaven. God has work for me to do here on earth. Shame on me for wanting to take the easy route. The more I learn here the greater my reward will be in heaven. although I am myself, I have not seen hell. I have been with men who were given glimpses of it and with tears in their eyes and shaking tell me how we don’t want our worst enemy to send spend a second there. our existence outside our bodies is 1000 fold heightened senses. looking through these human eyes is like trying to see through a dirty clouded mirror. I promise you our existence outside these bodies is the real reality..
I died during a back surgery when I was 14. I was above my body and floated up towards heaven. I didn't see anyone, but I felt God holding me. I've also had dreams where dead family members visit me (or rather, I visit them in heaven). It gave me a blissful feeling
at age 94 my Late father had several "visits" from the "tall men" that came twice to "fetch" him. They stood outside his door and said nothing, but He pleaded with them twice to give him 40 days. and they agreed. He died 42 days later whilst sitting in a chair. He told me how he begged them to come back and they never responded they just walked off. when i asked them what their face look like he said it was like they had no face but he had the feeling that it was someone he knew.. My Fathers friend in the room next door heard my father speak to people, many times. My father was not sick, he didnt even had a cold. I believe that everything Sabastian says here can be verified by thousands of people. I spoke to my dad on the tellephone the day before he passed. I could write a book about that conversation... peace and love to our aging parents all over the world. everyone deserves respect and dignity before they pass...
Same thing with my dad, he was 87. From his hospital bed, he told my brother and I all about some crazy dreams he had. He said when he was dreaming, there was this guy watching him dream. Dad said the guy was sitting in that chair right there the whole time. The chair was in his hospital room. Dad said the man never said anything, and he seemed to be waiting and watching. My dad passed away later that evening.
This episode almost rotted my brain if it wasn’t for Joe. This guy couldn’t be more foolish to no see a creator which is sustaining this world. Please tell me how there is a salt lick in the Amazon where there is no salt. Tell how how you can be so stupid to think that a hammer must be created by someone but a fucking egg that turns into veins, a nervous system, and a heart has no creator? What a bleak life this guy lives. This world is a trial and full of suffering. If you believe there is no God then you believe in injustice. If someone rapes your daughter and don’t get caught, what happens to them? No accountability? No God? What a foolish man this guy was
My dad passed with a smirk on his face… then visited me about 5 days later in a dream. I wasn’t near my own death, just near to his. I’ve nothing profound to say. I know it was him. I know that our spirit continues but that does not take away my motivation to live fully. It’s good to know that we are connected. I enjoyed the conversation and the musings in this. ❤
I find it interesting that after his experience it did not move the needle a bit on being an atheist, that's what I call being committed. If I see dead relatives and a dark pit, I might re-evaluate my beliefs at that point, but maybe that is just me.
Most sane people would but he's like Joe, he's set the bar for what he considers evidence of God so high it's impossible to achieve. God could come down to Earth and say "I'm real dummy" and he'd just say he was hallucinating and keep not believing.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Totally agree. This guy is soo stubborn, love his book Tribe but this podcast really did nothing for me except feel bad for this guy,
If he's a child of God, God will find a way to bring him in again, but if he's not, then he's simply not!!! and he will keep analyzing things his way until the end of time, then he will find out...God knows those who belong to him and those you are not and HE knows those who are worth saving and those who are not!!! Only time will tell!
No great mystery .. You are … …a sovereign being …your own “universe” …responsible for YOU .. for your Universe SO… get on with it IT RESTS WITH YOU. ⬅️
My mother talked to many people who had passed, we witnessed that . One of which was my father who died of a massive heart attack at 46, I was 3. We were able to ask her questions of what she saw and what he was saying. It was truly amazing.
Thank you, Sebastian, for the work you did with the 173rd Airborne in Afghanistan and bringing light to what our guys were going through at the time, and still do to this day. Sincerely, a 173rd ABCT veteran, 2007🍻
Off topic but I remember a clip of Joe being shocked at the switch from anti trump to pro trump and talks of RFK being a surprise contending runner for president is it plausible for trump to have RFK as a running mate
Weeks before my dad’s death he started seeing people (that no one else could see) that he didn’t recognize. He rationalized most of what he saw, but ultimately expressed that the visions frightened him. He didn’t want to be alone in case he saw one. He was 88 and had recent heart problems…but we/he didn’t know he was dying when he saw these people.
Was he a godly man or not so much? I’m sorry for your thought but genuinely curious. My nonna is about to pass any day now and she’s starting to see people.
Happened to my grandmother too. She was put in hospice upon leaving the hospital. Her visions and sounds were of her husband (who was a sweet, fragile, old man she'd been with for over 10 years) flirting and getting it on with the nurses. We all knew he wasn't capable of doing something like that to her. But it was so real to her that she moved in with my parents when put in hospice and divorced him over it. He passed about 2 months later. It was so sad to watch.
This hits deep. I survived a 4cm astrocytoma mixed glioma that was surgically removed at 22 followed by 33 sessions of radiation to my right temoral lobe (brain) and 6 months of chemo. Im now 33 years old and never stop thinking only around 30% of people survive 5 years after what i had. Life is precious.
I’m just an old man with an opinion, but… if I were an atheist and saw a deep dark pit beneath me during a near death experience, I’d be a little more than scared.
@@travismorris9303 Every time you have a bizarre dream, does it alter you outlook in the physical world? The brain makes all that stuff up, none of it is material and thus doesn't exist.
Yes. My mother-in-law...same thing. She had beautiful blue eyes. Even in the dimly lit room when she opened her eyes for the last time, I got to see the "light" in her eyes sparkle as she smiled a huge smile-- looking right at me, but right through me. Then the light slowly dimmed in her eyes as she left with whoever she saw. Being a witness to such an experience changes you.
“‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” (Luke 16 v 30 - 31)
A lot of people undergo these kinds of experiences. This felt like an upper middle class dinner party where they go round the table for everyone to share the 'wackiest' thing that ever happened to them. Can almost feel the 45 year old milfs craning their necks to hear every word.
I’ve been married to a bi-polar man for 32 years. When on lithium, he had no more adventures, no more stories at the end of the day, no more inventive motivation and he lost his desire to work and provide. He wasn’t the man I married, when on lithium. He had no purpose. I WISH I could experience the highs he does when manic. I feed off his energy. He threw those pills away 25 years ago ❤
I am so moved by this- my mind was able to rest in these questions and experience something higher and more spiritual than I commonly could. I am so impressed by the depth and wisdom that Joe has developed, totally nakedly for all the world to witness.
I met Sebastian at the museum of science in Boston when perfect storm came out. Great guy. Great conversation and I was just a security guard back then. Cheers man!
The best way to explain it is that life is a play and everyone is playing their part. Every pain every joy was meant to be experienced for the simple reason of growth. We all chose to come here and experience what we are individually experiencing so that we can become who we are meant to be. 😊
I have Bipolar 1 (involving full-blown manias requiring hospitalization). I also have an MD/MBA, and have dedicated my life to helping people with mental illness live better lives. I have always had a lot of respect for Sebastian Junger, so it was very disappointing to hear him speak about Bipolar so inaccurately and discouragingly. It would be nice to hear the voices of people who actually have these conditions, to complement the (admittedly valid) perspective of someone without mental illness observing from the outside.
I Can not believe that Joe Rogan let him get away with that. " To have a relationship with someone that are bipolar is almost impossible, to have a romantic relationship with someone that are bipolar is even thousand times harder" To leave something like that unsaid on a podcast that reach millions of people is really, really bad. Its so stigmatizing and can be really hurtful listening for anyone struggling with BP. Especially when Joe doesn't question it and accept it as the truth (when its not). If Bipolar would be a ethnicity this would be considered hardcore Racism. There been so many guest's on his show that have bipolar and i'm pretty sure Joe also have friends struggling with this that he is aware of.. And those people have friends ..and relationship's. Also...worth to mention, If Roagan podcast has 14.5 million listeners.. Then likely around 370 000 of them will have bipolar. Roagan was a coward this time.
Not sure if you're a boxing fan but if you're familiar with Ryan Garcia, I'd be interested to hear if you think he's exhibiting signs of Schizophrenia or not.
Thanks for this! Joe’s lack of response to this guys ignorant rant on BP is disappointing - hopefully someone that is close to Rogan calls Joe out and makes him aware of this in broader scale.
God what an episode. Sebastian Junger is one of my favorite authors. I thought this was going to be another talk about his past experiences in Afghanistan or something that would tie into the conflicts going on across the globe but to take this turn was just incredible. And to hear the story from him the way he articulated it was perfect. And to see Joe bring up his grandfather and get emotional just hit me right at the core of who I am. Loved this episode.
That is so profound, when someone dies there's a feeling.... like they left, it's different, not that they are jusr dead. They're gone. And it's eerie... like you know they left their body but you can feel something in the room. My best friend died recently and I was there when she died. There was that feeling.
I've been working as a companion and caregiver to Bob for the last 7 years-a 76 year old asshole (& proud of it!)-a veteran of the Army Engineers, and then an iron worker and crane operator (he was on the crew that built the docks in Long Beach, CA!), and after retirement, he still maintained, repaired, and managed all of his 20+ rental properties. Bob was a self-proclaimed role model for...well, everyone, he thought. He had never had a cigarette or sip of alcohol in his life-ate well-perfect blood pressure-and he was very disciplined-if the bathroom scale weighed him even 1 lb. above his target weight, he would fast for the following 24 hours. In 2018, Bob felt a little "off" and started getting tingling in his fingers and toes. Bob fell a couple times and shortly after wasn't even able to walk without assistance due to balance problems-if he tried, it looked like he was drunk, his gait swinging wide and unsteady. No doctors (& we've been to HUNDREDS) have been able to diagnose any issues other than cerebellar ataxia. He wasn't in pain, but every day was so difficult for him, eapecially when he thought about his body-just a few years ago-the well-oiled machine he had built. He used to tell me, "Hire the handicapped -they are fun to watch." He still laughed just as hard at his sick joke, even knowing that it now described himself. He was tired. He had been telling all of the doctors-including the entire team of them that would come to his house, now, for appointments since it was nearly impossible to travel, that it would be good, to die... That he wanted to I learned a lot from him, and even though his twisted narcissism rubbed just about everyone we had to interact with the wrong way, I truly appreciated his intolerant (hilarious!), "grumpy old man" programming. He appreciated my help, and he always made sure I knew he wanted me to "stick around". (We parted ways for a couple months after a minor disagreement, during which time he went through about a dozen caregivers!) He shot himself last Friday-6/28/2024, right after I walked out of his bedroom. I ran back into his room, followed by his 10 year old certified service dog, who Bob had trained personally since Chuck was just a puppy. This is the part that REALLY trips me out: I watched Chuck run back into the room-up to Bob's body that was laying in the hospital bed where we had just seen Bob, less than a minute ago. It took Chuck no time at all, to realize that "Bob" was no longer in the bed or the room. I'm sure he still smelled the same. But Chuck immediately high tailed it out of the room to search for his master, who he didn't find, again. That was the weirdest observation-to me, it proves that we are more than just our body. His soul was ALREADY gone. Immediately. Although my boss was an atheist, I prayed for his situation, for a revelation or an intercession-constantly! Whenever I told him I lived him, he would shake his head, smile, and say, "There's something WRONG with you!" I know he loved me, though. I sure do miss his stupid face! He would have been 77 in a couple days, on 7/6. Hope to see you on the flip side, Bob!
1:12:00 i had the same exact experience after i was shot. I didn't realize that everyone around me thought i was going to die. My story is way crazier. When i googled the shooting the news stories said i was shot in the face and died. After i seen the news articles i struggled with the thought that i really died and now im in another dimension. This is the condensed version. Its a way better story.
i almost died in 2019 and when i came to later in the hospital, i thought for months afterward that i had died and this was some kind of afterlife. i no longer believe this, but that feeling of difference is still there. i just consider myself very fortunate. glad you lived brother.
I rolled 5 times with my VW Golf, spend a week in coma and have barely memory of 1.5 years . (that was 8 years ago). When I returned to college, I didn't remember some friends and even a girl I had crush on and talked etc. I was just talking everyone normally and told her I have no idea of asking her out. We didn't date but I was cool. I mean I was cool with everyone and learned back. I become friends with her and others again. The version of me literally loved her died. I've read my texts with my friends etc. I really liked her lol. But I had no remembrance. It was weird. I lived but I know part of me died.
Scientists can manipulate brain activity in a lab to make you feel like you just tasted a lemon, but that doesn’t mean lemons don’t exist or that it’s all in your imagination. Similarly, if a scientist makes you laugh by stimulating your brain, it doesn’t mean the comedian you watched yesterday never existed or that the joke was just your body’s creation. Replicating near-death experiences (NDEs) in a lab doesn’t invalidate the experiences themselves or afterlife.
More often than not there is more to those post-death experiences than just “muh replicable brain phenomena”. I find that those who hand-waive all NDE’s away as reducible to some material explanation just as opaquely ideological as the people who turn these NDE’s into some fringe meta narrative about reality. Reddit-tier midwit cynicism masquerading as “totally objective science”. Many such cases with the “I F*ing love science” crowd.
Its funny how this gentlemans father appeared to him from the other side and said come with me, knowing full well that he wouldnt go with him and that this communication saved his life.
I had a NDE and witnessed something very similar to his description. I think we should all consider the possibility that God does exist but not the way you have been taught. God is the great designer- the creator of the universe.
What people call God is in fact a network of infinite proportion which creates. The capability of the brain to create complex patterns is part of it. God is the sum of everything that can create. God is not the universe, god is what the universe is capable of in regards with creating.
God made the universe. He is not the universe. God is the author, not the book itself. God is also a king, and there are smaller kingdoms fighting his.
When Joe mentioned the funeral and feeling that no one was in the body, I had a similar experience with my dad. He was in the hospital and his lungs began to fill with fluid. Nurse told me the end was near when that began. I was beside his bed when he *went*. There was a bit of an exhale (? Not sure how to explain it) and he was gone. When I say 'gone', I don't mean he died. He did die, but he left. His body was there in front of me, but at that exact moment, I could tell that it was a container and that my dad was no longer in it. Where he went or what he was, I do not know. But it was obvious to me at that precise moment, that he was not there any longer.
If you liked that you should search for a two-part old video of Nassim Haramein. I would like to see that guy on this podcast, he also have a few interesting theories in the field of physics.
Wow I think this is the first episode I've ever seen Joe moved enough to shed a tear. Man you can totally hear the love he has for his Grandfather, man. Makes me love Joe Rogan even more. Bro this episode is a real one.
These conversations are so important to me at this point in time. Why? Because here are two intelligent grown men with families and pasts talking intelligently about their experiences openly without shoving their perspective onto the other. Simply sharing in their experiences of the unknown and unknowable and how they have come to know what the DO know. Well me too and I am in my 70's and still exploring the unknowable within which I was born into….WOW….so full of mysteries yet unsolved. Thank you both for sharing.
This dude is alot closer to God than most believers, as I see it. It takes respect for God to be unwilling to believe "just because". IF he were to ever "come to God", he'd have a genuine faith in him.
I’m starting to think that when NDE, it’s part intention, just like meditating or praying. I think his dad, being an Atheist wanted to take him down under. God is just sitting back watching. All he had to do was call on Jesus and he would have known right then and there.
@@smugfrog8111 damn bro. I hope you don’t get shot, or go to war and see some shit. I really prey you don’t have a nde and still deny him while he is in front of your face. God bless.
Good post. As I’m reading the comments for this podcast I’m realizing that people have a need to judge Sebastian. What he says makes perfect sense to me. He’s a complicated well educated deep thinker and commenters here want to put him in a little box. Anyway, I think your post is spot on.
I'm almost 1 year removed from a 10 year relationship. I feel so much better physically and mentally being away from being gaslit and projected on constantly on a daily basis. I literally was an empty shell of myself for years from the nonsense. 9 months ago I started to regain myself back and it's a hell of a process. But damn, I feel soo much better now. I know now to leave such toxic relationships MUCH sooner now, and won't waste a decade of my life and get taken for a house.
I love this episode and it's the perfect follow up from the Terrence and Eric one. This one is emotional and grounded while the other one is cerebral and abstract. I love that one too, I don't understand anything that happens in it but just the way it flows and the fact that such a complex conversation exists and millions of people watch it is amazing.
This guy is a beast, he was talking for himself and Joe Rogan at times.. 'yeah bro I'm sure you're doing sacred work with the things you give say and helping people navigate their pain'..
Or awareness is a function of the brain. At the very least the data of a NDE will always be filtered, corrupted or tainted by the brain. Eliminating any real hopes of any conclusive evidence.
@bschmidt1 If the brain were like a radio receiver constraining consciousness from a broadcast signal, if the radio gets damaged it alters the conscious experience, that data is as consistent as the materialist neuroscience view of consciousness. Materialism fails to explain first person experience.
A year after my mom passed away I had a dream where she showed up and told me that she "got out" to visit me. I sat in a coffee shop with her and we started talking. I was surprised to see her there. Apparently she wasn't supposed to visit but found a way to do it anyway - very much like her personality. Then some kind of tall humanoid with a porcelain looking face entered the coffee shop, grabbed her and dragged her away. That was the end of the dream and I haven't had any more dreams with my mom since. 😬
Yes you aren't allowed to. In lamens terms .. think butterfly effect. Rare occasions you can be escorted here by one of those giant humanoid Angels. Sounds like your mom did it on her own....and then got escorted back 😂😂😂❤
Practice meditation and lucid dreaming and astral projection and be the one to go visit her. Also know this that where your mom is at she can see you and hear you at all times. Right on the other side of the veil there's a place they can see all without having to come here and not get in trouble 😂😂😂. Well you don't get in trouble because there's no trouble there. It's just that your personality and sense of humor stays with you always. And so if your mom is onery then she's still onery.
@@mojojojo6400 In the dream my mom was really dramatic while getting pulled away but I had a sense that the thing was just doing its job and it wasn't as big a deal as it appeared. Waking up from that wasn't as bothersome as you would think. This goes both ways. I hope my parents aren't always watching me viewing xxx sites alone.... I don't want to know.
I really wish Joe or Jamie or someone would investigate Chris Palmer MD and the amazing work in Metabolic Psychiatry where medically supervised ketogenic diet can put chronic mental illness into remission.
I don’t think him seeing his father was good thing. See what the Bible says about familiar spirits. But you’re right it just proves it: if there’s evil there’s good
God gave this man another chance and he’s still denying the existence. That hole he falling in was god showing he’s going to the void if he doesn’t get on the frequency 👁️
I guess everybody is different, but if I had an experience like that I would at least consider the possibility of a creator. Not like he had to join up the next day.
I know a guy who had an NDE (heart attack) and he says he was in the hottest fire imaginable. He’s an atheist, still is and he is terrified of dying now
He’s going down a LOT of rabbit holes to deny the existence of God. It was right in front of his face and he is still denying it. PS: dead father more than likely wasn’t dead father at all.
I’ve been up since 4am and this episode found me at a pivotal time in my life. It’s incredibly intriguing, and I’m sure it’s been said a thousand times to Sebastian, but if I was 10min away from dying and a deep dark black void opened up BELOW me and started sucking me in I would not come out of this whole thing an atheist.
I literally spent from 9-9 today(Friday) watching Terence and Eric, I had to keep talking rest periods😂 no bullshit it was one of the most interesting things I’ve ever heard in my life, thanks Joe!
Because he doesn't know what that actually means, does it have to mean god? Can you not comprehend that? Why do people who don't understand something always point to god or Aliens 😂
@@Hmmyeah2019one would assume - given his experience- that he would come out of that with at least a moderate agnostic approach to spirituality. That there is something beyond death. I mean he quite literally witnessed it. His definition of agnostic was not entirely correct either. The mere acceptance or realization that there is a spiritual element to our existence, whatever that may be for you the individual, is an agnostic view. Agnostic isn’t black and white but rather a gray area of thinking. Where you know there’s something or some things beyond. You’re just not sure what. He clearly had a nde, saw his dead father and felt a black hole creeping toward him that tried to pull him in - to paraphrase what he said. I think that would constitute a change in one’s personal beliefs and why everyone in the comments has this sentiment. I also, just based off what I heard in this episode. To me he sounds like he some trauma to deal with before coming to grips with a total 180 in what and how he thought the universe operates. That’s a whole paradigm shift of the soul and not easily done. Or quickly done I should say.
You took what he said and responded through your own filter and made your own assumptions. He said he saw a dark black pit, not a fiery hole. As an atheist I would think death is just nothingness, much like what it was like before you were born. Take off your religious glasses and try to see from a different perspective
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March 2020 I was diagnosed with None Hodgkins Lymphoma, After my Third chemo therapy treatment I remember sitting in the shower I was sick I was throwing up and I was tired, losing all my hair my body ached, I just felt poisoned and I knew I was only half way through the amount of treatments I had left. I remember sitting there in the shower and thinking to myself Ok im not going to go any further with this, Im going to stop the treatments now and take my chances knowing that was very likely a death sentence for me and the feeling that came over me was comforting, There was this strange comfort in resigning to death, I thankfully immediately recognized it and decided No Im gonna keep going. Here we are 4 years later im in remission god willing I will be here for a long time to watch my kids grow old with their families.
Stay positive and do not give up.
Congrats brother.
If you don't mind me asking; how did you go about getting diagnosed and what were your earliest symptoms where you knew something was wrong.
I've been having some weird lymph node symptoms lately with a family history of lymphoma. Doctors at the VA aren't doing shit to figure it out but I know something just isn't right. Symptoms have been coming and going since covid.
Rooting for you.
god bless
Good on u kid 🫡
Much of love for you and the most important is that your children still have you!
Lost my dad last month and he was my best friend. I’ve never been so close to anyone in my life. This episode was beautiful and really cheered me up. Only other time I’ve seen Joe cry was with David Goggins when they were talking about Goggins mom. Joe holding back tears talking about his grandfather was so beautiful. This is a beautiful episode.
I lost my uncle in May. it's been the worst two months of my life. but I've been trying to keep it together the best I can. This episode is tough to listen to, but I know it's going to help the healing process.
Hope you're ok. To lose your parent is one of life's hard challenges. My mum died 16 years ago, still hurts. Make him proud, brother.
And he cries when he talks about his past dogs I do the same
I’m very sorry to hear that, brother
This episode needs more views
I almost bled to death 3 weeks ago. Once I was stable and could think straight the 1st thing I thought of was the life-giving people that made my transfusions possible. Thank-you to all those who donate blood and give 2nd chances at life to people like me. I will donate again once I'm able ❤❤❤
This is why Rogan is the king. I just started listing to this random guest who I’d never heard of and it is riveting. Joe allows him to talk without the selfish urge to interrupt
Because he's sleeping
Joe is curious. And a good listener. That's why people like him.
Joe’s done other episodes with him. Check out the first one with Sebastian Junger, it’s great. He talks about his book, ‘Tribe’ and how modern society makes people feel inherently lonely and unnecessary. His book is great too, highly recommend.
Not all the time he has too much information in his mind 😄
Perfect storm is an awesome book
When I was 16 weeks pregnant I lost my baby boy to a fatal birth defect. I woke up from surgery in a room full of female nurses to a man’s voice calmly saying, “He’s gone.” Not a sad tone, just comforting and very matter of factly and clear as day. I believe 100% that it was the voice of God taking my baby boy home. That experience has really transformed my faith.
🙏🙏🙏😢
. . 🕊✨
My wife had a miscarriage and we found out in an ultrasound. The nurse left the room so we could grieve and while I held my wife she begged God to let her hear the heartbeat just once and I swear to all things holy we heard the heartbeat come from the ultra sound. Can't explain how.
If it was just your dad you'd be an atheist.
I can sympathize! Me and my wife experience this last year unfortunately. It was a painful time in our lives! But I know our son is in god's glory!
I haven't talked about it much, but my experience with my mother passing, being there watching her get sick & sitting alone many nights with her as I did when she literally took her last breathe, while holding her hand, had an impact on me that I will never recover from, but also changed how I look at life & who we are. My mother saw relatives, interacted with them, during the night, I personally felt spirits around me & her. I'm not religious, but am spiritual.
Jesus is the way ❤ Jesus Loves you Personally and Deeply ❤
Same thing
I’ve had an NDE and I’ve done Ibogaine. Both experiences have opened up enlightenment of something after “death”, ego death, purpose, and love. Just existing now, is such a gift and I believe my existence is the gift of heaven. If you live that way, that this life is a gift, even in the suffering, you can find real gratitude. We can all speculate, the interesting thing is that we will all find out.
4 years ago I cried out to God and was lifted 3 inches out of my physical body. I knew the Holy Spirit was there. I live now in joy and peace with understanding.. It took me a couple months to register that it was real, but through prayer. God gave me three examples to prove to me that it really happened. I also woke the next morning just inherently, knowing without a doubt that everything in the Bible is completely the word of God
Im interested to know , why do you consider it a gift to be allowed a longer life here on earth 🌎 which I really enjoy like you but you know heaven is real , arguably a much better existence?
@@Junglebtc yes my wife gets very upset that I say how I can’t wait to be in His presence again and can’t wait to be rid of the flesh. romans 8:7 explains how our carnal minds and bodies are continually at war against God. I am embarrassed when I say it because think how selfish it is, we have eternity in heaven. God has work for me to do here on earth. Shame on me for wanting to take the easy route. The more I learn here the greater my reward will be in heaven. although I am myself, I have not seen hell. I have been with men who were given glimpses of it and with tears in their eyes and shaking tell me how we don’t want our worst enemy to send spend a second there. our existence outside our bodies is 1000 fold heightened senses. looking through these human eyes is like trying to see through a dirty clouded mirror. I promise you our existence outside these bodies is the real reality..
This guy is working very very hard to uphold his 'sacred' ideologies. Bless him.
I didn't like him.
I died during a back surgery when I was 14. I was above my body and floated up towards heaven. I didn't see anyone, but I felt God holding me. I've also had dreams where dead family members visit me (or rather, I visit them in heaven). It gave me a blissful feeling
Your faith must’ve been strong!
at age 94 my Late father had several "visits" from the "tall men" that came twice to "fetch" him. They stood outside his door and said nothing, but He pleaded with them twice to give him 40 days. and they agreed. He died 42 days later whilst sitting in a chair. He told me how he begged them to come back and they never responded they just walked off. when i asked them what their face look like he said it was like they had no face but he had the feeling that it was someone he knew.. My Fathers friend in the room next door heard my father speak to people, many times. My father was not sick, he didnt even had a cold. I believe that everything Sabastian says here can be verified by thousands of people. I spoke to my dad on the tellephone the day before he passed. I could write a book about that conversation... peace and love to our aging parents all over the world. everyone deserves respect and dignity before they pass...
94. Now that's impressive.
Did he ever explain why he asked them to come back?
❤ Amen❤❤❤
You should write that book. Even if it's just for your family.
To figure out who they are@@theliveing
Same thing with my dad, he was 87. From his hospital bed, he told my brother and I all about some crazy dreams he had. He said when he was dreaming, there was this guy watching him dream. Dad said the guy was sitting in that chair right there the whole time. The chair was in his hospital room. Dad said the man never said anything, and he seemed to be waiting and watching. My dad passed away later that evening.
I needed this episode. Thanks to Joe and Sebastian for sharing some rough experiences with all of us
This episode almost rotted my brain if it wasn’t for Joe. This guy couldn’t be more foolish to no see a creator which is sustaining this world. Please tell me how there is a salt lick in the Amazon where there is no salt. Tell how how you can be so stupid to think that a hammer must be created by someone but a fucking egg that turns into veins, a nervous system, and a heart has no creator? What a bleak life this guy lives. This world is a trial and full of suffering. If you believe there is no God then you believe in injustice. If someone rapes your daughter and don’t get caught, what happens to them? No accountability? No God? What a foolish man this guy was
My dad passed with a smirk on his face… then visited me about 5 days later in a dream. I wasn’t near my own death, just near to his.
I’ve nothing profound to say. I know it was him. I know that our spirit continues but that does not take away my motivation to live fully. It’s good to know that we are connected.
I enjoyed the conversation and the musings in this. ❤
@@dewmontain123 maybe 😉
Uhhhh
I'm sorry for your loss, but happy you had that experience
Loving fate makes the world so much more bearable.
Prolly was a demon they trick ya easily ask the Egyptians…
I find it interesting that after his experience it did not move the needle a bit on being an atheist, that's what I call being committed. If I see dead relatives and a dark pit, I might re-evaluate my beliefs at that point, but maybe that is just me.
Most sane people would but he's like Joe, he's set the bar for what he considers evidence of God so high it's impossible to achieve. God could come down to Earth and say "I'm real dummy" and he'd just say he was hallucinating and keep not believing.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Totally agree. This guy is soo stubborn, love his book Tribe but this podcast really did nothing for me except feel bad for this guy,
If he's a child of God, God will find a way to bring him in again, but if he's not, then he's simply not!!! and he will keep analyzing things his way until the end of time, then he will find out...God knows those who belong to him and those you are not and HE knows those who are worth saving and those who are not!!! Only time will tell!
You don't have to believe in God, he believes in you.
No great mystery ..
You are …
…a sovereign being
…your own “universe”
…responsible for YOU
.. for your Universe
SO… get on with it
IT RESTS WITH YOU. ⬅️
My mother talked to many people who had passed, we witnessed that . One of which was my father who died of a massive heart attack at 46, I was 3. We were able to ask her questions of what she saw and what he was saying. It was truly amazing.
Awww, seeing Joe get emotional about grandparent's 😢, made me teary. I was so close with my grandparent's too. ❤
Thank you, Sebastian, for the work you did with the 173rd Airborne in Afghanistan and bringing light to what our guys were going through at the time, and still do to this day. Sincerely, a 173rd ABCT veteran, 2007🍻
And what of the people they destroyed?
Seconded.
@@Marius_vanderLubbe these people have a massive case of main character syndrome
@@iknow2145 Nicely stated.
Off topic but I remember a clip of Joe being shocked at the switch from anti trump to pro trump and talks of RFK being a surprise contending runner for president is it plausible for trump to have RFK as a running mate
My IQ needs a rest after yesterday's episode 😂
My calculator does.
🤣 I agree
Turn it sideways.
I couldn't finish it. I tried so hard
😂❤ totally
Weeks before my dad’s death he started seeing people (that no one else could see) that he didn’t recognize. He rationalized most of what he saw, but ultimately expressed that the visions frightened him. He didn’t want to be alone in case he saw one. He was 88 and had recent heart problems…but we/he didn’t know he was dying when he saw these people.
Was he a godly man or not so much? I’m sorry for your thought but genuinely curious. My nonna is about to pass any day now and she’s starting to see people.
Happened to my grandmother too. She was put in hospice upon leaving the hospital. Her visions and sounds were of her husband (who was a sweet, fragile, old man she'd been with for over 10 years) flirting and getting it on with the nurses. We all knew he wasn't capable of doing something like that to her. But it was so real to her that she moved in with my parents when put in hospice and divorced him over it. He passed about 2 months later. It was so sad to watch.
This hits deep. I survived a 4cm astrocytoma mixed glioma that was surgically removed at 22 followed by 33 sessions of radiation to my right temoral lobe (brain) and 6 months of chemo. Im now 33 years old and never stop thinking only around 30% of people survive 5 years after what i had. Life is precious.
A bad relationship can be more lonely than being single 😅
I’m just an old man with an opinion, but… if I were an atheist and saw a deep dark pit beneath me during a near death experience, I’d be a little more than scared.
Yeah 🤣 that’s what I was thinking too.
I've been praying for him... He like most of us are playing Russian Roulette with our time left here and where we spend eternity...
We go through the dark and comes out into the light..
@@travismorris9303 Every time you have a bizarre dream, does it alter you outlook in the physical world? The brain makes all that stuff up, none of it is material and thus doesn't exist.
He’s in denial lol
Right before my infant daughter died, she opened her eyes and smiled.
That was such a strange part to hear, I wish I knew who came to get her.
Yes. My mother-in-law...same thing. She had beautiful blue eyes. Even in the dimly lit room when she opened her eyes for the last time, I got to see the "light" in her eyes sparkle as she smiled a huge smile-- looking right at me, but right through me. Then the light slowly dimmed in her eyes as she left with whoever she saw. Being a witness to such an experience changes you.
Dear strangers, please pray for my health and well-being. Your positive energy means a lot to me.
That's the strangest thing I've read in a long time.. May the force be with you.. I guess?
Praying for your everlasting health and fortitude my friend.
Suck it robot
I pray blood of Jesus over you.
Sending positive energy your way. you got this.❤
Im a combat veteran and Sebastian has made so many contributions to my community, im super grateful to this guy
in america you are a veteran - but only there.
for the rest of this world you are a murderer.
“‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” (Luke 16 v 30 - 31)
A Julian Assange ep would be 🔥🔥
That would be insane!!! I doubt he’ll be on US soil though…..
it would be epic
@@NotjewYewnah he can do it from afar like Snowden did
He might not do it. Julian is a weird guy.
@@NotjewYewnahJoe can fly there
S.J. is such a good guest, calm, logically consistent, humble, interesting... I could listen for hours
We need sensible humans in our lives. 1 hour in and I'm very impressed. Being human is underrated these days.
A lot of people undergo these kinds of experiences. This felt like an upper middle class dinner party where they go round the table for everyone to share the 'wackiest' thing that ever happened to them. Can almost feel the 45 year old milfs craning their necks to hear every word.
I’ve been married to a bi-polar man for 32 years. When on lithium, he had no more adventures, no more stories at the end of the day, no more inventive motivation and he lost his desire to work and provide. He wasn’t the man I married, when on lithium. He had no purpose. I WISH I could experience the highs he does when manic. I feed off his energy. He threw those pills away 25 years ago ❤
I am so moved by this- my mind was able to rest in these questions and experience something higher and more spiritual than I commonly could. I am so impressed by the depth and wisdom that Joe has developed, totally nakedly for all the world to witness.
Joe Rogan talking so emotional about his grandfather and his grandmother dying 😢😔🫂
Time stamp?
Around 1:30 @@kylefrancis3906
Heartbreaking description from his younger POV :(
@@kylefrancis3906 1:32:15 is where it begins.
this is the most Joe Rogan have been vunerable on this podcast. Something changed.
I met Sebastian at the museum of science in Boston when perfect storm came out. Great guy. Great conversation and I was just a security guard back then. Cheers man!
Y u lie?
nothing wrong with being a security guard. we gotta do what we do, to make ends meet.
What a blessed moment, congrats man
The best way to explain it is that life is a play and everyone is playing their part. Every pain every joy was meant to be experienced for the simple reason of growth. We all chose to come here and experience what we are individually experiencing so that we can become who we are meant to be. 😊
lost my grampa last year i miss him very much, was my father pretty much fought like a true boss till very end hope i can see him again one day
I have Bipolar 1 (involving full-blown manias requiring hospitalization). I also have an MD/MBA, and have dedicated my life to helping people with mental illness live better lives. I have always had a lot of respect for Sebastian Junger, so it was very disappointing to hear him speak about Bipolar so inaccurately and discouragingly. It would be nice to hear the voices of people who actually have these conditions, to complement the (admittedly valid) perspective of someone without mental illness observing from the outside.
I Can not believe that Joe Rogan let him get away with that.
" To have a relationship with someone that are bipolar is almost impossible, to have a romantic relationship with someone that are bipolar is even thousand times harder"
To leave something like that unsaid on a podcast that reach millions of people is really, really bad. Its so stigmatizing and can be really hurtful listening for anyone struggling with BP.
Especially when Joe doesn't question it and accept it as the truth (when its not).
If Bipolar would be a ethnicity this would be considered hardcore Racism.
There been so many guest's on his show that have bipolar and i'm pretty sure Joe also have friends struggling with this that he is aware of.. And those people have friends ..and relationship's.
Also...worth to mention, If Roagan podcast has 14.5 million listeners.. Then likely around
370 000 of them will have bipolar.
Roagan was a coward this time.
@@ErikIng-jv7xr Brilliant, brilliant analysis. Thank you for writing that. Serious respect to you.
Not sure if you're a boxing fan but if you're familiar with Ryan Garcia, I'd be interested to hear if you think he's exhibiting signs of Schizophrenia or not.
@@ErikIng-jv7xryes!!!
Thanks for this! Joe’s lack of response to this guys ignorant rant on BP is disappointing - hopefully someone that is close to Rogan calls Joe out and makes him aware of this in broader scale.
Anything but God always, even when he gives you a second chance.
Yep, and people ask why God sends seemingly great people to hell, it’s because they literally do not want anything to do with God. Ever.
which god?
@@generalshrooms The only God. Yahweh. The great I Am. The God of the Bible. Jesus is proof of Him. Without Jesus, we would be lost as to who God is.
@@CCitis doubt it
Exactly. They will believe literally anything, except that God is real.
Man received a warning to turn his life around and chose to disregard it.
IKR?
EXACTLY. You can lead a horse to water but u cant make them drink. This is the smartest dummy i ever heard
Wow. Says he's still an atheist.
Ikr? How can he not believe in Santa Claus after all that?
@@Voodoo_Robot I believe in Sinter Klaas.
The kindness here is so inspiring. Blessings to everyone!
God what an episode. Sebastian Junger is one of my favorite authors. I thought this was going to be another talk about his past experiences in Afghanistan or something that would tie into the conflicts going on across the globe but to take this turn was just incredible. And to hear the story from him the way he articulated it was perfect. And to see Joe bring up his grandfather and get emotional just hit me right at the core of who I am. Loved this episode.
seein joe get teary hit different
Never has someone explained what I go through everyday with my bipolar disorder so clearly and articulately.
❤
I have never heard someone try so hard to convince themselves God doesn't exist.
Uhhh its important, really important, live your life with responsibility, not fear.
I live with people that try far harder to convince themselves that god *is* real every single day...
This is typical with atheists. That is what the black hole was hell. His dad was try to save him from it.
@@Bronco541 I hope he is, but suspect he's not.
Same can be said the other way around.
That is so profound, when someone dies there's a feeling.... like they left, it's different, not that they are jusr dead. They're gone. And it's eerie... like you know they left their body but you can feel something in the room. My best friend died recently and I was there when she died. There was that feeling.
I've been working as a companion and caregiver to Bob for the last 7 years-a 76 year old asshole (& proud of it!)-a veteran of the Army Engineers, and then an iron worker and crane operator (he was on the crew that built the docks in Long Beach, CA!), and after retirement, he still maintained, repaired, and managed all of his 20+ rental properties. Bob was a self-proclaimed role model for...well, everyone, he thought. He had never had a cigarette or sip of alcohol in his life-ate well-perfect blood pressure-and he was very disciplined-if the bathroom scale weighed him even 1 lb. above his target weight, he would fast for the following 24 hours.
In 2018, Bob felt a little "off" and started getting tingling in his fingers and toes. Bob fell a couple times and shortly after wasn't even able to walk without assistance due to balance problems-if he tried, it looked like he was drunk, his gait swinging wide and unsteady. No doctors (& we've been to HUNDREDS) have been able to diagnose any issues other than cerebellar ataxia. He wasn't in pain, but every day was so difficult for him, eapecially when he thought about his body-just a few years ago-the well-oiled machine he had built. He used to tell me, "Hire the handicapped -they are fun to watch." He still laughed just as hard at his sick joke, even knowing that it now described himself. He was tired. He had been telling all of the doctors-including the entire team of them that would come to his house, now, for appointments since it was nearly impossible to travel, that it would be good, to die... That he wanted to
I learned a lot from him, and even though his twisted narcissism rubbed just about everyone we had to interact with the wrong way, I truly appreciated his intolerant (hilarious!), "grumpy old man" programming. He appreciated my help, and he always made sure I knew he wanted me to "stick around". (We parted ways for a couple months after a minor disagreement, during which time he went through about a dozen caregivers!)
He shot himself last Friday-6/28/2024, right after I walked out of his bedroom. I ran back into his room, followed by his 10 year old certified service dog, who Bob had trained personally since Chuck was just a puppy.
This is the part that REALLY trips me out: I watched Chuck run back into the room-up to Bob's body that was laying in the hospital bed where we had just seen Bob, less than a minute ago. It took Chuck no time at all, to realize that "Bob" was no longer in the bed or the room. I'm sure he still smelled the same. But Chuck immediately high tailed it out of the room to search for his master, who he didn't find, again.
That was the weirdest observation-to me, it proves that we are more than just our body. His soul was ALREADY gone. Immediately.
Although my boss was an atheist, I prayed for his situation, for a revelation or an intercession-constantly! Whenever I told him I lived him, he would shake his head, smile, and say, "There's something WRONG with you!"
I know he loved me, though.
I sure do miss his stupid face! He would have been 77 in a couple days, on 7/6.
Hope to see you on the flip side, Bob!
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I am a 3 rd generation ironworker,, we all are made "tough" ... I love your story ,, R I. P. !!
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for sharing
I am sorry for your loss.
I loved "The Brothers Kararmazov". Really helped me when I was an adolescent finding my way.
1:12:00 i had the same exact experience after i was shot. I didn't realize that everyone around me thought i was going to die. My story is way crazier. When i googled the shooting the news stories said i was shot in the face and died. After i seen the news articles i struggled with the thought that i really died and now im in another dimension. This is the condensed version. Its a way better story.
i almost died in 2019 and when i came to later in the hospital, i thought for months afterward that i had died and this was some kind of afterlife. i no longer believe this, but that feeling of difference is still there. i just consider myself very fortunate.
glad you lived brother.
damn i wanted to joke that both of you died and wtf you guys writing wake up
I would of just bought something to see I'd have to pay taxes. 😅
Can you tell us more, I’m curious brotha glad you’re still here with us btw
I rolled 5 times with my VW Golf, spend a week in coma and have barely memory of 1.5 years . (that was 8 years ago).
When I returned to college, I didn't remember some friends and even a girl I had crush on and talked etc. I was just talking everyone normally and told her I have no idea of asking her out. We didn't date but I was cool. I mean I was cool with everyone and learned back. I become friends with her and others again.
The version of me literally loved her died. I've read my texts with my friends etc. I really liked her lol. But I had no remembrance. It was weird.
I lived but I know part of me died.
Glad I'm back. Just had a pure and applied math science class yesterday.
This episode came at a time I needed it most. It was incredibly unexpected and appreciated.
Sending you a hug.
Being Indian, I found more sense and wisdom in this episode than the episode with Sadhguru.
shut up....an atheist vs sadhguru who is spreading universal knowledge
@@alessandro61224 speaking slow doesnt make someone smart. You probably think katt williams and Terrance howard are smart
@@alessandro61224chill out little baby
Scientists can manipulate brain activity in a lab to make you feel like you just tasted a lemon, but that doesn’t mean lemons don’t exist or that it’s all in your imagination. Similarly, if a scientist makes you laugh by stimulating your brain, it doesn’t mean the comedian you watched yesterday never existed or that the joke was just your body’s creation. Replicating near-death experiences (NDEs) in a lab doesn’t invalidate the experiences themselves or afterlife.
More often than not there is more to those post-death experiences than just “muh replicable brain phenomena”. I find that those who hand-waive all NDE’s away as reducible to some material explanation just as opaquely ideological as the people who turn these NDE’s into some fringe meta narrative about reality. Reddit-tier midwit cynicism masquerading as “totally objective science”. Many such cases with the “I F*ing love science” crowd.
There's no way to know for sure. You're not wrong, but there's no way to confirm it.
@@apreviousseagle836 Nor a way to deny it...
@@norriskp and hence we continue, not knowing what the truth is.
Its funny how this gentlemans father appeared to him from the other side and said come with me, knowing full well that he wouldnt go with him and that this communication saved his life.
"To make sure they scoop out a tumour and not piano lessons."
That was pure subtle genius.
To all the kind souls here, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers as I work towards better health.
@bschmidt1I’m doing bar jokes now, what? Walk inside me
HADOKEN!
This is a very underrated Joe Rogan episode
I had a NDE and witnessed something very similar to his description. I think we should all consider the possibility that God does exist but not the way you have been taught. God is the great designer- the creator of the universe.
That’s been considered. And it’s wrong. Read the Bible
Yes, there is only one without a second.
What people call God is in fact a network of infinite proportion which creates. The capability of the brain to create complex patterns is part of it. God is the sum of everything that can create. God is not the universe, god is what the universe is capable of in regards with creating.
To put it in the words of an ancient sage, 'God is the knower, the knowing and the known'.
God made the universe.
He is not the universe.
God is the author, not the book itself.
God is also a king, and there are smaller kingdoms fighting his.
Thank you Joe and to this man. YOU REALLY HELPED ME TODAY. 🙏🏻🙌 We love you Joe 🫂
"Death comes to me and whispers in my ear. Make haste, for I am coming." -Virgil
Also, both of these gentlemen would benefit greatly from reading St. Thomas Aquinas and other scholastic thinkers within the Christian Tradition.
Once again into the fray,
Into the last great fight,
I'll ever know.
Live and die,
On this day...
Live and die.
On this day.
This episode hit me in the feels. This was a good one. Everyone should watch this episode.
When Joe mentioned the funeral and feeling that no one was in the body, I had a similar experience with my dad. He was in the hospital and his lungs began to fill with fluid. Nurse told me the end was near when that began. I was beside his bed when he *went*. There was a bit of an exhale (? Not sure how to explain it) and he was gone. When I say 'gone', I don't mean he died. He did die, but he left. His body was there in front of me, but at that exact moment, I could tell that it was a container and that my dad was no longer in it. Where he went or what he was, I do not know. But it was obvious to me at that precise moment, that he was not there any longer.
Joe crying made me cry…. Miss my grandfather too man
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society" -Krishnamurti
Who else is still trying to figure out the Terrance episode?
Read Walter Russell's The Universal One and The Secrets of Light.
If you liked that you should search for a two-part old video of Nassim Haramein. I would like to see that guy on this podcast, he also have a few interesting theories in the field of physics.
Nothing to figure out the guy is crazy 😅
Watch some joscha Bach stuff if you want real interesting stuff
Lol wtf was that? I learned a lot about myself and my circumstances from that one thiugh
Really appreciated this conversation. It made me feel more sane.
Wow I think this is the first episode I've ever seen Joe moved enough to shed a tear. Man you can totally hear the love he has for his Grandfather, man. Makes me love Joe Rogan even more. Bro this episode is a real one.
love this guys story but i would be hammered if i did a shot every time he says, RIGHT! LOL
RIGHT?!
i didnt even notice because i focused on the story, you must got ocd man.
@@oui2611Me we - Ali
@@FrenchCanadianGuy Bloody well, right!
@bschmidt1understood boos!
Aneurism story gave me anxiety
Cool guest👍
Same i had to skip forward
Haha same
had a smoke before the episode also was one to skip to intense, too real, great pod though,
How come
Listening to joe talk so emotionally about his grandparents makes me think about mine a lot.
same here, lost my last 2 over this last year
I know if Joe had these resources back then, his grandparents would have had a greater quality of life.
I would, if I could.
These conversations are so important to me at this point in time. Why? Because here are two intelligent grown men with families and pasts talking intelligently about their experiences openly without shoving their perspective onto the other. Simply sharing in their experiences of the unknown and unknowable and how they have come to know what the DO know.
Well me too and I am in my 70's and still exploring the unknowable within which I was born into….WOW….so full of mysteries yet unsolved.
Thank you both for sharing.
Quite literally the "Joe Rogan Experience" today ... without the distraction of cigars, weed or Patrón. Thanks, Joe & Sebastian!
This dude is alot closer to God than most believers, as I see it.
It takes respect for God to be unwilling to believe "just because". IF he were to ever "come to God", he'd have a genuine faith in him.
I’m starting to think that when NDE, it’s part intention, just like meditating or praying.
I think his dad, being an Atheist wanted to take him down under. God is just sitting back watching. All he had to do was call on Jesus and he would have known right then and there.
@@pedrosaucedo333seriously...I mean ABSOLUTELY!!
@@pedrosaucedo333 What about Thor? Why do you deny the existence of Thor?
@@smugfrog8111 damn bro. I hope you don’t get shot, or go to war and see some shit. I really prey you don’t have a nde and still deny him while he is in front of your face. God bless.
Good post. As I’m reading the comments for this podcast I’m realizing that people have a need to judge Sebastian. What he says makes perfect sense to me. He’s a complicated well educated deep thinker and commenters here want to put him in a little box. Anyway, I think your post is spot on.
I'm almost 1 year removed from a 10 year relationship. I feel so much better physically and mentally being away from being gaslit and projected on constantly on a daily basis. I literally was an empty shell of myself for years from the nonsense. 9 months ago I started to regain myself back and it's a hell of a process. But damn, I feel soo much better now. I know now to leave such toxic relationships MUCH sooner now, and won't waste a decade of my life and get taken for a house.
I’m curious if you could share a layer of detail of your experiences , if you’re okay with that? Thank you
Been there,it gets better
Terrence has a patent for that
welcome back!
Good Lord man it was painful to listen to this guy talk about his near-death experience. Literally gas lighting himself beyond ridiculous
Hahaha I know. He won't admit it's ego.
@@dismiss3d323 Yeah, I thought the same. Maybe he thought it would diminish his intellectual credentials.
@bschmidt1 you'll come around or not I don't care. We all go through the edgy phase.
I love this episode and it's the perfect follow up from the Terrence and Eric one. This one is emotional and grounded while the other one is cerebral and abstract. I love that one too, I don't understand anything that happens in it but just the way it flows and the fact that such a complex conversation exists and millions of people watch it is amazing.
This guy is a beast, he was talking for himself and Joe Rogan at times.. 'yeah bro I'm sure you're doing sacred work with the things you give say and helping people navigate their pain'..
“You” are not your brain, you are the awareness.
Yes! And energy doesnt go away, it changes. ❤
Or awareness is a function of the brain.
At the very least the data of a NDE will always be filtered, corrupted or tainted by the brain. Eliminating any real hopes of any conclusive evidence.
@bschmidt1 If the brain were like a radio receiver constraining consciousness from a broadcast signal, if the radio gets damaged it alters the conscious experience, that data is as consistent as the materialist neuroscience view of consciousness. Materialism fails to explain first person experience.
Someone was aware you lost your brain therfore awareness never went away
People can't even take their dog out for a shit without social media.
Why are people shitting with their dog?
@@joshuaperry4112Literally nobody said that, goof ass.
@@joshuaperry4112hahaaaaaa😂😅.spewed my 💧 out on that one👍🙌
Read this while sitting on my porch waiting on my dog to sh1t lol
😂@@chanceicard8477
This was such a beautiful podcast episode 🥲
Blood clot and aneurysm stories give me the worst anxiety... But when you think about it... it is one of the preferable ways to go.
I dont think ive ever seen Joe this choked up
I would really love it if you would start to use chapters! So many good podcasts do this and it’s super handy, especially with long form podcasts!
There used to be a commenter who would timestamp for us. idk where he went
wow, please Joe, give us more episodes like this. Beautiful!
A year after my mom passed away I had a dream where she showed up and told me that she "got out" to visit me. I sat in a coffee shop with her and we started talking. I was surprised to see her there. Apparently she wasn't supposed to visit but found a way to do it anyway - very much like her personality. Then some kind of tall humanoid with a porcelain looking face entered the coffee shop, grabbed her and dragged her away. That was the end of the dream and I haven't had any more dreams with my mom since. 😬
Yes you aren't allowed to. In lamens terms .. think butterfly effect. Rare occasions you can be escorted here by one of those giant humanoid Angels. Sounds like your mom did it on her own....and then got escorted back 😂😂😂❤
Practice meditation and lucid dreaming and astral projection and be the one to go visit her. Also know this that where your mom is at she can see you and hear you at all times. Right on the other side of the veil there's a place they can see all without having to come here and not get in trouble 😂😂😂. Well you don't get in trouble because there's no trouble there. It's just that your personality and sense of humor stays with you always. And so if your mom is onery then she's still onery.
@@mojojojo6400 In the dream my mom was really dramatic while getting pulled away but I had a sense that the thing was just doing its job and it wasn't as big a deal as it appeared. Waking up from that wasn't as bothersome as you would think. This goes both ways. I hope my parents aren't always watching me viewing xxx sites alone.... I don't want to know.
Your story about your grandparents was very touching, Joe.
This episode was fucking amazing! Loved to see Joe get deep and personal like that.
I really wish Joe or Jamie or someone would investigate Chris Palmer MD and the amazing work in Metabolic Psychiatry where medically supervised ketogenic diet can put chronic mental illness into remission.
Please do a podcast with Stuart and cliff knechtle that conversation could be so interesting
They are awesome! Did you see them with George Janko?
This is by far my most favorite episode of the podcast to date!! Love the heartfelt tears from Joe. ♥️
He says he doesn't believe in God but says, "I saw my father"..." Jesus.".😂😂😂
I don’t think him seeing his father was good thing. See what the Bible says about familiar spirits. But you’re right it just proves it: if there’s evil there’s good
God gave this man another chance and he’s still denying the existence. That hole he falling in was god showing he’s going to the void if he doesn’t get on the frequency 👁️
Some people will fight God no matter what. I can see why God gets frustrated sometimes
Just stop it. You know no more than any other man. Stop preaching like your eyes are opened wider than everyone elses.
@@Chris-cb9lnand just how do you that their eyes aren't fully opened and yours are squinting? Person wasn't preaching ...
I guess everybody is different, but if I had an experience like that I would at least consider the possibility of a creator. Not like he had to join up the next day.
I know a guy who had an NDE (heart attack) and he says he was in the hottest fire imaginable. He’s an atheist, still is and he is terrified of dying now
He’s going down a LOT of rabbit holes to deny the existence of God. It was right in front of his face and he is still denying it. PS: dead father more than likely wasn’t dead father at all.
I’ve been up since 4am and this episode found me at a pivotal time in my life. It’s incredibly intriguing, and I’m sure it’s been said a thousand times to Sebastian, but if I was 10min away from dying and a deep dark black void opened up BELOW me and started sucking me in I would not come out of this whole thing an atheist.
Love when you can, fight when you have to.
He's aged a lot from his last appearance.
I thought he'd look Junger.
Better than any of Joe rogans standup
I literally spent from 9-9 today(Friday) watching Terence and Eric, I had to keep talking rest periods😂 no bullshit it was one of the most interesting things I’ve ever heard in my life, thanks Joe!
Jesus, now I’m terrified of belly pain… I didn’t need to know this.
maybe it'll save your life....
This was one of the best conversations I've heard in a while.
I love it when Joe talks about extranormal topics. Seeing him emotional in this interview was touching.
“I’m an atheist and I was dying and saw my dad and a dark black pit that I was going into… I’m still an atheist” wtf 😂
Next would be: I went to heaven, spend good time with prophets but I'm still an atheist lol
Because he doesn't know what that actually means, does it have to mean god? Can you not comprehend that? Why do people who don't understand something always point to god or Aliens 😂
@@Hmmyeah2019one would assume - given his experience- that he would come out of that with at least a moderate agnostic approach to spirituality. That there is something beyond death. I mean he quite literally witnessed it. His definition of agnostic was not entirely correct either. The mere acceptance or realization that there is a spiritual element to our existence, whatever that may be for you the individual, is an agnostic view.
Agnostic isn’t black and white but rather a gray area of thinking. Where you know there’s something or some things beyond. You’re just not sure what.
He clearly had a nde, saw his dead father and felt a black hole creeping toward him that tried to pull him in - to paraphrase what he said.
I think that would constitute a change in one’s personal beliefs and why everyone in the comments has this sentiment.
I also, just based off what I heard in this episode. To me he sounds like he some trauma to deal with before coming to grips with a total 180 in what and how he thought the universe operates. That’s a whole paradigm shift of the soul and not easily done. Or quickly done I should say.
@jamesof7sevenEnoch went to heaven and wrote about it
You took what he said and responded through your own filter and made your own assumptions. He said he saw a dark black pit, not a fiery hole. As an atheist I would think death is just nothingness, much like what it was like before you were born. Take off your religious glasses and try to see from a different perspective
May all that read this, be blessed with wealth, health and happiness ❤
This is a kind of guest I love just calm, intelligent personality.❤