MotoGP rider Casey Stoner explains his incredible technique in turn 3 at Philip Island Gypsy Tales
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Casey Stoner was a magician through the highly technical turn 3 at Philip Island. While some maybe attribute the 260kmph power slide to pure talent and balls, Casey reveals otherwise. In this segment from our 4 hour podcast, Casey reveals his secrets to getting through turn three and that his mastery came as a result of fear.
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This man is one of the most badass riders to ever ride a motorcycle. He literally made Rossi, Pedrosa, Lorenzo look like amateurs at certain times, for 2-3 years. Not many people have done that and it’s a shame we didn’t see more of this guy on the track…
Yeah totally!! It shocked me to see him retire so young, but after hearing his story I can understand.
Nobody could ride that era Ducati... possibly the most skilled rider of the past 3 decades, since Hailwood and Agostini
Really a pity he stopped and wasn`t very consistent.
I agree
What are you talking about? The only year Stoner won on the Ducati was the year that he was on special tyres, which were much faster than the others. He never won a championship after that, until he got on the Honda in 2011, which was the best bike on the grid. Rossi won three consecutive championships on the Honda, and people kept saying that's why he was winning, because Honda was the best bike, which it was. Honda has always been the best bike. But Rossi left Honda for Yamaha, and proved, that truly, he was the best rider. It wasn't the bike. Stoner is fast, and surely he's faster than Marquez on the Honda as well (which is why Marquez stopped Stoner from wildcarding at Jerez), but to say he made Rossi, Lorenzo look like amateurs, is incorrect.
Not sure how many are aware but Casey won 41 Australian dirt and long track titles and over 70 State titles, riding up to 5 bikes at a meeting in different capacity categories. All before the age of 14! He then he headed to Europe with his parents to start a road racing career (he was too young to race in Australia). He went on to take out the English 125cc Aprilia Championship in 2000, in his first year of road racing.
The rest, as they say, is history!
Exato! Ele ganhou mais de 200 corridas no MX. Só num final de semana de tres dias, ele ganhou 35 de 38 provas, sendo que nas tres que ele não ganhou foi porque a moto quebrou. Lenda absoluta!!
For those people watching this that are not well familiar with Casey's racing career- he is likely the most talented and skilled pure motorbike rider in MotoGP history. He didnt have the racecraft of Rossi or Lawson at all times, but was able to do things that baffled riders like Spies, Edwards, Rossi, etc.
Most importantly- he was the only rider that was able to consistently win on the Ducati of the time- the same bike that Rossi deemed unridable.
So only 2 champs? Not the greatest. Very good. But not the greatest
@noiseman1986 one on a bike no one else could even podium on and then continue to challenge every year for race wins and championshsips...
This blew my mind. To not only think of how to be fast through each corner by lines but setting the bike up including heating the tyre on the corners or braking straight before it. The man is a genius
Blew my mind too man. Crazy
Wow, i have never heard Casey be so open and comfortable discussing such a wide variety of topics. And I think it has got to be the way you conduct the discussion/interview. You have knowledge about the subject and can relate. Well done
Thanks mate. Casey and I are pretty good mates too and I think that also helps. He knows I’m not after a scoop, just love hearing about his unreal life and career!
I agree I was going to say he has the 'it' factor when it comes to getting people to open up. Like our pal Joe, I think it's just because they're both down to earth guys who are humble, based and have real passion for talking to people. Great channel, very underrated.
top interview! Casey takes ownership of what is rightly his with grace and the right sort of modesty to tell the story. I could actually share his sense of fear and accomplishent at a visceral level! The next best thing to actually trying to do it yourself, I wish..
@@GYPSYTALES I wish I were an Aussie to be a good mate with you two... 😸😼
Best regards from Mexico mis hermanos (my brothers)!!! 🙏🏼🇦🇺🇲🇽
Stoner was such a great rider his riding intelligence helped him be scared of himself. He was like a PROFESSOR of motorcycle racing where in the end that smart didn't work for him. Good enough to be the best ever, he got to the stage of being the best rider in the world but held himself back.. He knew too much about his feelings & this was probably the strangest way any MGP rider minimised their overall potentials ( given we are supposed to know ). Totally counter intuitive but his precision & knowledge was so epic it was always going to tell him too much. I.E emotional intelligence comes from being such a great technician & that had a payback. In many ways though Stoner remains among a few of the greatest riders that ever existed because anyone can see that hardly anyone was that good. A very rare outcome but there it is - he'll always be a 12 times champion for me to suit how good he was. I'd not be surprised if teams are apprehensive of riders getting too smart since Stoner! But hey - it probably means he knew how to deal with that in retirement :)
In terms of sheer skill in TOP 3 best ever
265kph 5 gear into the corner 'that's got to be 9 on the pucker factor scale ,wow !,just shows you how next level these guys are, absolutely mental, even a good rider would be yeah nah,nah no way haha ,great conversation 'thoroughly enjoyed it, and listening to Casey talk about his struggles and been so open about it ,very brave corageious, trulely a really nice man , and a good sportsman, don't blame him for getting out of the game,I remember him saying in an interview with someone, when you got riders trying to run you of the track at 300+ kph its time to get out of the game, Its cut throat, to much bad sportsman ship ,not worth dying for,will all ways be one of my favorite rider's, and in my opinion one of the best riders of all time,
Casey Stoner is the most under rated rider of his generation. So many people beating off about rossi i think they missed just how good casey was! Awesome vid, thanks gt. Going to look for the whole interview now.
Ironically his rivals were his biggest fans of his speed and skill. Lorentz, Rossi and Co always marvelled at his skill and quoted him as the most naturally talented. Marquez was gutted he missed racing him.
Ha haaa, i'm not surprised. They had the best view possible of him sliding through corners.@@fastjaydub
From someone who has ridden / raced PI, I can tell you that Casey’s approach into turn 3 @ over 250kph needs balls (massive) to take out that fear of loosing the front end… it’s somewhat of an onxi-moron approach…. He is one of a kind! 🙏
I was thinking the same! insane...
The other fascinating thing about this is the fact that nobody needed less practice laps than Casey. He would figure out the feedback for the engineers in very quick time unlike other riders that need many laps to figure things out. So to hear that he was testing so many things out in so few laps makes it that much more impressive.
that is one of the most common things I have heard other motogp riders say about Stoner. that he was fast as soon as he went out on the bike, whereas the other guys needed a handful of laps to understand the conditions/bike and find the limit, Stoner was able to understand all that and get up to speed right out of the gates.
@@wowbeezee and to do it while testing new parts is incredible. Such a talent.
That's one of the most badass techniques I've ever herd a rider explain your a legend casey stoner .I've watched my dad battle chronic fatigue my hole life I wish you all the best mate.
You're not allowed to introduce yourself for many good reasons.
All your comments just got hit away.
You must go through introductions first.
No introductions , No comments.
@@dreyn7780 what
Was exceptionally fortunate enough to be a marshal at PI for all 6 of CS27s wins there. Got to see Casey take turn 3 like he describes on many an occasion - the dude is the best imo.
When Rossi ‘rode’ the duke he dropped it at MG (I was stationed there) and when the bike and he stopped sliding mr perfect got up and kicked the bike….. a Rizoma bar end happened to be in the grass adjacent to the bike that somehow happened to turn up in my tent 🤔….
Oh yeah, my avatar is a photo I took, at PI turn 12, of some Aussie dude you may have heard of: Mighty, mighty Mick Doohan.
I'm a massive Valentino rossi fan and have been for as long as I can remember .
But love casey because that man rode his bikes like he stole them. Massive amount of respect.x
Casey is amazing! So happy i was there for his 6 in a row at the island. I will never forget him coming out of MG bucking and weaving on the throttle 10m before anyone else on that bloody mental GP7. This is by far the best podcast you have done!
This was the time the Ducati GP bike was an evil animal, unknown to most of us until Lorenzo and Rossi couldn't get any consistent results out of it. Then many of us had to recalibrate the measure of C. Stoner. RESPECT.
what cracks me up with people like you is that
1/ Ducati changed tyres after Casey's title and never recovered. therefore the bike was already shit before Rossi came to Ducati. otherwise Casey would've stayed with them.
2/ Casey just tells us in this very video here that he never liked the front end of the bike and found a way to be faster by riding it "dirt track" style by drifting the rear to relieve the front end and avoid the crash. well ok but did Rossi ever ride in Dirt track competitions? no. therefore you can't ask a rider to do things he doesn't know about. hence why Rossi couldn't be fast with it because the front end was so horrible he couldn't get his line properly. as he couldn't drift it "Casey style", impossible to achieve anything with such bike.
conclusion: Casey won because of better tyres and a riding style that not many riders know. but at the same time it was extremely risky because he was a heavy tyre eater because of that riding style. many times his rear tyre was about to give up. some pictures showed that he probably had 1 or 2 laps left. while other riders still had some meat on them. i have hige respect for him but please stop making him the God he isn't. he's just a great amongst the greats. which is already the best you can hope for.
@jiboo6850 are you serious? Rossi literally have a dirt bike track in his garden where he hosts a competition every year , it's called "the 100km of champions", he as every single motogp rider have a lot of experience with dirt bikes
One of the most naturally gifted riders to have ever done it. Just re-read his book, and his rise from Superteens in the UK, to the top is almost unbelievable. Privileged to have watched to win on the Island in both 2008 & 2012 🙌🏼 🇬🇧
They should rename the Phillip Island circuit after Casey Stoner. He is the king of that place !
MotoGP riders speak as much with their hands as with their mouths, you can almost understand the intervieuw without sound.
So good to be back at Phillip Island '22 !!
Top bloke, humble modest absolute legend on a bike
Could listen to Casey all day long. Enjoy how he explains such a difficult thing to even just understand, such talent makes things so simple.
Casey is a genius! I miss watching him ride.
I can see what's going to happen next track day at PI!
How do you spell highside?
I took a photo from the rear end on every lap of the 2011 MotoGP from the Bass Straight grand stands. Casey said the weather wasn't that best. From memory there was slight drizzle, but he slid the bike through turn 3 for every lap apart from the first couple and the last lap. I hope to get him to sign one of the images when I meet him in a couple of months.
One of the grand masters of motorcycle riding. He took motorcycle riding to an artistic level. It was spectacular to watch.
Stoner Rocks! He is a first class gentleman
Smart, articulate and the best rider of all time!
Love you Casey. Grew up watching guys like you in high school. Such a cool time to grow up getting into bikes. Love hearing from legendz
I could listen to Casey’s stories and wisdom nuggets all day
-CY Castor
By the way, congrats on getting absolute LEGENDS on your show, keep doing what your doing my man.
but STOP calling them insane ffs.. & listen to what they're saying.. a penny dropped hearing Casey explaining his reasons for drift control of the front end
Absolutely loved listening to Casey talk in such detail about his technique. And thank you for making such content that I didn’t even know existed. I would have never discovered it until someone from the local track community posted it on the facebook group. I wish you the best and I hope more people discover you. I’m obviously gonna share it with as many people i can. Cheers!
Your podcast has me giving all the respect to Cassie which I shoulda have given him years ago. Greatest natural talent in MotoGP. Full stop.
People! Think about the confidence one must have in the team that builds that bike? In the end of the interview Casey talks about the next session and working it out or crashing. REALLY!? Absolute, no questions about who put built this machine and the feeling that one can push it to to absolute max performance. this is why they make it to the top pedestal, and deservedly so. Impressive. Just absolutely impressive.
People don't seem to give Casey the same recognition as Gardiner or Doohan, but he was the most natural rider of the lot of them
Fantastic! Can't wait to listen to the rest of this interview. Could never understand why Stoner got stick for what he was like off the bike, when he was a fucking total monster on it, which is all that matters. I still miss watching him ride.
Mick Doohan and Casey Stoner. Both Absolute Aussie Legends !!! IMO
This man is one of the greatest of all time. Maybe even the best.
Real interesting hearing it from the man himself. It would have been nice to have a little bit of a video showing up at the same time while he was explaining..
I am not even into Moto, but I found this so interesting, the fear and anxiety part. Grand Prix is impressive, but these guys doing it on two wheels is an entirely different level. Great conversation.
Gossip from you and this was just helping the idiots to learn 1 thing.
You should have already known this stuff.
Millions of people giving you the silent treatment, failed to make an impression on you.
You gossip and you waste your life and everyone else's life too.
You're also a reactionary style of person.
You failed to introduce yourself to us.
No introductions, you're not allowed to make a comment.
Yeah, car racing is cool and all but it looks rather way too safe or too controlled compared to bike racing.
GOAT, hands down.
It's not chauvinism, I'm Bolivian. I used to think he was too slow for the Ducati... How wrong was I! I heard a couple of Italian managers comment he was "it". Forget Ago, Rossi, even Márquez. The personal, familiar sacrifice, the technique, the bravery.
Those managers claim Marquez may have beat him because he had a better, less bitter, moer resilient, character. Big contra-factic, we'll never know. In fact Stoner left a perfectly set-up bike for Márquez's maiden title.
I just wish Márquez hadn't injured his head in Moto2 and we could have seen them on a track in 2012. At least one single race.
I hope he's doing well.
Love these road racer interviews!
Your interviews and guests are a dream come true for a longtime rider and Motogp enthusiast like myself! Keep it up matey!
You should have already worked it out by yourself.
I already know mick doohan was doing his own deals.
I just look at a rider and the bike and I know what's happening.
You'd have to go to university for the next 20 years to catch-up to the establishment.
Turn 3 at Philip Island totally a dirt track move. What commitment to pull that off at 260kph.
Casey has always been my absolute favorite rider to watch. His talent is beyond unbelievable. Maybe other riders were better "racers" by jamming themselves into questionable places and being a bit dangerous, but in my opinion, no one was a better rider. I hope I get to see someone coming up through the ranks match his talent, but I doubt I ever will. Too many rider aids masking the talent or the lack there of..
All the high-speed tracks he was many times 3 seconds faster than everyone else...it was absolutely teriffiing and incredible...
Such a simple and easy to understand description of how to use a well tuned chassis in a different way to most l must admit l haven't done any road circuits but MX dirt tack and speedway and how good is it for a Moto Gp world champ to quote dirt track love it
that comment makes dirt bikes very relevant as a prerequisite for greatness
Way to go brotherman, you have the road bike holy grail of podcast topics to your name haha 👌🏼
He was an amazing rider. Rode it like he stole it... I named my son after him 14 years back... A true great
Brilliant riding albeit thru trial and error. Hanging it out for us seems crazy until you hear him explain how he did it all in the name of safety. The thoughts that go thru a professional racers mind…brilliant is all I can say. Casey, brilliant
I had a soft spot for Casey, I ran a few club/amateur races and used the number 27 because of him; the way he explains is absolutely amazing. What a legend.
Hey Awesome interviews with Stoner & Mick Doohan, is there any chance you can interview Gary McCoy, he was respected for his sliding and dirt bike style by allot of us Aussies, as much Stoner, Doohan & Wayne Gardener, Keep them coming....Cheers
I was Impressed with Stoner Skill when he came in to MotoGP! If you ride bikes you understand why!
I’ve been lucky enough to have ridden 2 ride days at Phillip island ( 6 twenty minute sessions novice group ) . Like a kid in a candy store….got the most grippy tyres , racing break pads even filled up and took an extra 7 litres of avgas … I held no illusion that I was the late blooming , unknown 196cm 100kg GP racer but there were no cars , no painted lines, manhole covers or cops. The speed Casey was going through turn 3 , I couldn’t get to down the main straight ( 235kph maybe) and I was feeling adrenaline running down my leg (it’s brown and smells) as turn 1 was coming up. Pure admiration for the focus he must have , let alone the skill. Excellent interview, you are really good at this, I can’t imagine it’s easy to pick the right questions
You two "clicked" and it was so neat the way you steered the conversation. Thank you both.
The way he explains how to ride a motorcycle fast is probably the best I’ve ever heard.
"It was all me" - I can believe it only when Stoner says this.
The way he casually talks about that maneuver…unreal.
I don't normally click like on TH-cam videos but I feel obligated to for this,
Amazing interview on both behalfs
Talent + Brains + Guts = World Champion
dude, i am soooo happy that you are interviewing motogp legends! When you coming out to do a road race track day?
We need to remember that he was called by press and fans as Rolling Stoner prior to his huge success
... prior to find "his" way throught different tracks...
Casey & Marc most talented riders ever! edit: maybe toprak can join this list let see after he is on a GP bike.
"that's just sliding you know, that's not hard" - Casey Stoner.
Every thing spoken made sence, and Casey had the balls to work it out. Just like how sit and beg style of rider Graham Crosby on his production racerused to sqaure corner.
Wow amazing articulation... This guy knows his stuff
Pure pleasure watching Casey cornering..
That's what a world Champion sounds like! Casey Stoner 27
Casey war der Fahrer mit dem allergrößten Talent, vor allen anderen..
👍👍👍
Damn, I can’t even remember how I approached the last corner before my street as I was coming home today. How he recalls approaching any turn is just amazing.
This is why I have the most respect for next level pro riders, GP or SX and motocross. The guys who get into record books and do mindblowing shit. The 1 and 2 title riders are lucky to have titles in the presents of these super pro's.
1:40 You can see his internal ECU going through the process from his eyes
Casey's slide were very impressive. I feel lucky to witness those. Pure legend 🇮🇳 👌👌👌
Pure male gossip.
Absolutely incredible
I love to hear these elites dissect what they do. WOW !
Absolutely fascinating listening to this bloke… 👍
Or Barcelona turn 10 i think. Amazing interview, kudos. Thx guys.
I wish Casey could have competed during the 500cc 2stroke era. I think he would have been dominant.
Damn this is fascinating. The physics of 2 wheels is so much more interesting than 4. But these guys usually cant explain why theyre doing what they do. Casey explains it perfectly
Just say no to electronics 👍 right on Casey. You were a marvel. Get well mate.
New Hampshire ✌️🇺🇲🏁
This interview was fantastic but I wish the interviewer would let Casey talk and explain the technical stuff more.
What a LEGEND. He was on a different level. Even with a bike that was a bitch to ride, he made it work. It's a shame his career was so short.
My god. What a legend
Casey: "These bikes are so easy to slide"
Everyone else: .....yeh sure. We'll take your word for it
The interesting part that I can relate to this statement. After about 25-30 track days , I was able to slide rear wheel on Panigale V4S with slick tires on corner exits for fun , maybe 2-3 second at at time. It is absolutely amazing sensation. I was just a quick and dedicated track day rider, but not even a club racer. Todays electronics and 200 rwhp allow to do that safely, you just have to trust them, same with lean angles beyond 50 degrees, the grip is there with proper slicks, but most people can’t have the trust to push this hard as it feels beyond physically possible and fear doesn’t allow. On the other hand, what he is describing here in this episode is beyond any realm for mortals
How cool would a Stoner/Marques paddock be, damn!
Spent the whole video waiting for footage.
Such a legend
Some footage of him in his corner here: th-cam.com/video/_OhvhjpkhiU/w-d-xo.html
INCREDIBLE.
Just AMAZING.
WOW !!!
Mind blowing, wow.
Comeback Casey...you’re a LEGEND!!!
if you watch the Philip Island races from the past years you can see Marquez makes the difference at the same corne over and over again. He likes to bring the rear into slide before turning in just like casey
My favourite driver
Never a Casey fan but respect his riding. He looks pretty worked out for man who has a tiredness disorder.
Fantastic conversation, thanks.
Wow what a awsome, down to earth interview. I love this. Liked and SUBBED 👌
It's also very interesting because I use this technique in go karting and car racing. If there is corner I feel I'm getting understeer through the mid I'll encourage the rear to kick a touch out before I get to that point to help rotate the car more and get a better exit.
I also had to learn not to use this on every corner because some corners have enough grip to not be limited on understeer.
Stoner was somewhat of an enigmatic and polarising rider. But fuck he was fast. Dude could really RIDE a bike. Also, he's still young. I was really surprised when he decided to chuck the helmet.
Amazing interview, one for the ages. Thank you!
Just gossip from you.
How boring you are and moto gp is.
REAL MEN would be racing planet Jupiter by now!
Money scams are really boring.
It's just a tax on the poor for no real outcomes and a lot of young men are dead because of it.
Casey HAS inspired a lot of young men to go into the grave.
I heard an old man say all 15 bike riders he knew are all dead.
That gives cars a 100% success rate.
True legend..
Imagine how long he could explain and talk about each track he has been
Electronics ruined GP racing taking most of the skill out of racing. Casey is will and forever be the LEGENDARY motorbike rider.
I miss watching him race at the island!
Fave rider ever! TFS, GB :)