Arizona person Job 26:7 “He stretches out the north over the void, and the earth hangs on nothing” Psalm 104:5 “ he sets the earth on its foundation, so it could never be moved” God doesn’t really talks about the shape of the earth and all that because he knows that humans will soon figure out all this things, he just give a little detail like that first verse, saying the earth hangs on nothing, i would have showed you more verses but i am busy right now.
I love that you watch Desiring God! I’ve watched your videos for a while now but I never knew you watched this too! I love John Piper and I also love your channel as well so keep it up brother!
Ultimately, we just have to humble ourselves when it comes to this question. When Scripture tells us that God isn't a man that He should repent, I always understood it as God doesn't repent from sin. Unless God reveals to us the meaning, because Scripture mentions the same thing during Noah's day in how He regretted making man, we just have to say we don't know. Of course we can speculate and have hypotheses. Ain't nothing wrong with that. The one I find interesting is God knows the end result of every choice we make and can make, but the choices themselves aren't set in stone. This would give credence to why Scripture tells us about the longsuffering of God. How He is slow to anger, and abundant in lovingkindness.
The concept of God regretting, as described in passages such as Genesis 6:6-7, raises several theological and philosophical questions. Here are some of the main issues that have been raised in relation to God's regret: 1. Divine Omniscience: If God is all-knowing and has perfect foreknowledge, how can God experience regret? Regret typically arises from not knowing the full consequences of one's actions beforehand. Some theologians propose that God's regret is a way of expressing divine grief and concern, while others suggest that God's knowledge of possibilities does not necessarily entail knowledge of actualities. 2. Divine Immutability: If God is unchanging, how can God experience regret? Regret often implies a change of mind or a recognition of a mistake. Some theologians argue that God's regret is a way of communicating God's response to human actions within the framework of divine purposes, while others propose that God's immutability can be understood in a relational and responsive sense. 3. Divine Perfection: If God is perfect and without error, how can God regret past actions? Regret is often associated with acknowledging a mistake or an imperfection. Some theologians interpret God's regret as a form of accommodation, using human language and emotions to communicate divine truths, while others propose that God's regret stems from God's self-imposed limitations in creating free creatures. 4. Theodicy: If God is all-powerful and all-loving, why would God regret creating humanity? Some question how God's regret fits within the broader theological understanding of God's attributes and the problem of evil. Various interpretations have been offered, including God's response to human moral choices and the necessity of judgment and restoration. 5. Biblical Interpretation: The interpretation and understanding of specific scriptural passages that mention God's regret can vary. Different translations, cultural contexts, and theological frameworks can influence how these passages are understood, leading to diverse interpretations and perspectives on the concept of God's regret. These are complex theological issues, and theologians and scholars have offered various perspectives and interpretations in attempting to address them. The concept of God's regret continues to be a topic of theological reflection and discussion within different religious traditions.
@@Moodboard39 One possibility I've researched is the idea that (In relation to Genesis 6 6) God didn't know there would be those who would ultimately choose to reject Him. Why? Its because before our creation, there was nothing to know in what we "would" do. You see, how can "our will" and "our choices" exist before we exist? If they existed before God created us, you would almost have to say we always existed, or at least a part of us. Thus, making us like God in that aspect, having no beginning. So in this understanding, God wouldn't have known, because there was nothing to know. God knows everything, yet concerning our will pre our existence, our will was nothing.
A few points: The word is not originally in English, from what I read a lot of these times the word written in the original Hebrew translates to Mourn more so than regret. Very subtle difference but an important one. Another point: have you ever drunk a lot of beer or what not knowing you were going to have a bad hangover if you did so and did it anyway? Then wake up the next day and regret what you did? Or had a friend do that? You can know the result of something and still do it. Heck God could have felt that mourning and regret before it all and still did it. He’s just mentioning it here. He is outside of time anyway so it’s all happing at once for him.
@@travissharon1536 that’s not true at all. That’s been a view of the Hebrew text and belief for just as long if not longer dating back to the Bronze Age collapse. There is plenty of writing that dates as far back that suggest it’s been a belief of Jewish culture for as long as Jewish culture has been around Also where the heck did you get the idea Greeks thought that. They don’t believe in one God. They believed in a pantheon with different types of gods and only recently has any interpretation I’ve seen suggest any God has that sort of ability. Otherwise how would Zues and the other Gods have been eaten by the titans and struggle so much if they were outside time
@@jonahbutterfield5792 It's like you intentionally missed the point of my comment. I said the belief about God being outside of time, is a Greek philosophy thing. Specifically Plato's concept of the one. Of course, the Hebrews believed in YHWH. The idea that YHWH has not interaction with time is not hebrew.
I believe God's omniscience is something He posseses to use as and when He chooses. There's plenty of evidence that He likes to watch things play out on Earth, so it makes sense that He would only look into the parts of the future He wants to reveal to Himself in His own good timing. He has perhaps an infinite number of future 'boxes' let's say, that He peeks inside of whenever He wants, to bring about His plans and maybe even to answer prayer. I reckon His omnipresence works in a similar way. He is able to be everywhere at all times, but probably won't be hanging around in a dark sewer for example, as He has no business there and doesn't desire it. He is much more likely to be present in a consecrated host or in the heart of a believer or in a hospital where life and death is unfolding, etc, etc.
God sees everything, even the darkest sewers. In Mozambique, people were so poor that orphaned children were living on rubbish dumps like discarded waste. So God sent Christians there to start orphanages, to preach the gospel to people, so their physical bodies are saved and they are saved for eternity. If God didn't see every little thing, know everything, he wouldn't have seen that and be able to save them. The presence of God is something a bit different, which it sounds like you are talking about. The presence of God went with the Israelites in the desert and we can know his presence by asking him to dwell in us.
What you're saying is God possesses omniscience, but to what extent He uses it (chooses to use it) is limited. Your next sentence says that God only looks to the things He wants to see in the immediate future, which will soon come to pass, so that when that immediate future comes to present, He will have looked through at least through what was necessary for Him to envision, and if not, already sees everything/every possible outcome. Same logic for where He is present: He choses to manifest Himself in certain locations where there is potential for His activity to occur and not a dingy corner of a sewage pipe. To me this sounds like a diminished God, who for some reason, cannot bear to to look at everything in the eye, but only what is enough for Himself to handle and enough so that what needs to happen comes to reality. What I believe you're getting at is what is observable on our end (the specific way in which God was evidently omniscient in a specific situation that actually happened/happens) is the limit on the scope of God's omniscience. Extend that logic in the parenthesis to many, many more specific situations and you would find that God knows things only up to the point of all possibilities on earth, in the universe, or in creation. Though I think God is an infinite creator, His creation itself is finite in some way, whether it be the creation's duration of existence, capabilities, or attributes. In other words, it appears you are saying that though God is all knowing, capable of everything, and being everywhere, He can only be all-knowing, all-powerful, and ever-present in locations and things He made. My challenge to you is where exactly in the Scriptures do you see Biblical evidence for your view? 2 Cor 10:5 tells us to "take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." Reading Scripture, here's what I think: Eph 2:10 says that "we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for Good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them," indicating God is indeed all knowing and has predestined everything. God knows all. He may see that His creation was good when He first made it in Gen 1, but to only say that He likes to watch things play out on earth is you assuming that God finds amusement as reality unfolds (which doesn't capture how He patiently waits for sinners to come to Him before Christ returns to judge the earth, per 2 Pet 3:1-13). This predetermination reveals God's omniscience is truly omniscience, not just knowing-in-all-creation. Eph 4:6 says God is "over all and through all and in all," indicating He is certainly in the sewers, cat boxes, and the hearts of man. God's omnipresence is truly omnipresence, not just present-in-all-creation. Daniel 4:35 says "all the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and He does according to His will among the host of Heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay His hand or say to Him, 'What have you done?'," indicating God is sovereign and in control. Referring to your comment on God opening boxes maybe even to answer prayer, only God's will, which is predetermined, comes to pass. When we pray, we must pray in accordance to His will. 1 John 5:14 supplies, "if we ask anything according to His will He hears us." When we pray, we seek to submit our will and wishes under God to be in line with His will and intents. Prayer is that process of turning ourselves from ourselves and towards God and godliness. We know this is true because God is holy--He is set apart. He is so set apart from anything, anything created, or just anything, that in Isa 6:3 and Rev 4:8, seraphims say "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; the whole earth is full of His glory!" and "Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!" How set apart God is is incomprehensible for our finite human minds. We can only see His attributes to the extent in which we can observe creation, and this explanation is what our finite minds can comprehend. That should humble any one of us to "trust in the Lord will all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths," as written in Prov 3:5-6. This, I think, is what you're getting at in your comment. (edit: grammar and application)
@@JonCChan You say 'set apart', yet He actively chose to live and even die as one of us. So I reckon He sets Himself just as apart as He wills and just as With Us as He wills for His purpose and pleasure. He 'sets' the entire universe and manifests in myriad ways, according to His holy will, which none of us knows unless you count the Lord Jesus as one of us, which of course as a Christian I do. One of God and one of us, as such of both having likes and dislikes. So yes, where poor families inhabit sewers, He being the Good Shepherd may well be present, but where there are only rats and filth I think not so much.
Idk, I think the guy with the question makes a better point, tbh. I personally think that nothing makes sense if God knew exactly what was going to happen. There would be no point to anything.
I enjoy the explanation, but I am sort of confused as to whether the answer addressed both repentance and regret. From what I understand, Pastor John seemed to give an answer as to why God regrets not so much as why He changes His mind[which will eventually change one's actions] which is what I believe repentance to be
Genesis 6 : God regretted making man. Pretty clear. In that context doesn't mean chnage of mind... Because other scriptures back it up, Samuel God regrets making Saul king of Israel Cuz he was failure...
Using that spanking analogy though, there is a difference between you and God. Even if you spanked your son and he ran away as a result, you did not foresee or predestine your son's choice to run away. In fact, you probably didn't even foresee or predestine that your son would do something to warrant a spanking in the first place (especially not before your son was even born). You did not see the future before your son was born and say to yourself "I'm going to have my son disobey me in the future so that I can spank him and he will run away". Meanwhile, God pretty much does precisely that, and this is what I believe the issue here is. God predestined everything that happens (even to the point of having angels and prophets prophesy things to take place centuries in the future, long before any of the people involved in the prophesy are even born). Then, he still creates those people, allows everything to happen as prophesized, and then punishes people and laments. I believe that this is what is so jarring to a lot of people who have an issue with this topic. Just for the record, I do indeed believe in God's omniscience and foreknowledge and sovereignty. I'm just explaining here why that spanking analogy doesn't really hold up in my humble opinion. I know that this video is years old, but if you or anyone else in the comments section would like to reply to this, I am very open to any responses to this. I have been trying to get closer to the Lord lately, but as I have been reading I have personally been finding myself struggling to swallow very bitter pills (most of which ultimately do come down to the concept of predestination and God's foreknowledge), so if anyone can help me actually see the light in this concept, it would be most welcome.
I came to the comment section hoping someone else would notice that terribly flawed analogy. I have found many calvinists are somehow blinded to this logic. I have read Pastor John Piper’s articles as well as heard him and other calvinists on this subject and I’ve come to the conclusion that the issue lies in our perception of time. With the human mind we will never be ever to fully grasp or understand the concept (obviously) but I find it much more consistent to just admit that there’s something we’re not understanding about time rather than to call into question God’s character. (Though calvinists and many other Christians will say it doesn’t, try arguing that to a non-believer). Somehow, God being outside of our linear time, is able to know the beginning and end all while human free will is altering the timeline. It seems much more plausible and more acceptable of a conundrum than to try to “square the circle” that is the Calvinist conundrum. Even John Piper will admit that though we can’t understand it, God alone determines man’s response while at the same time making him accountable to Himself (who predetermined it) for that response. Anyways, just my opinion. I hope that this is of some help. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Provisionism and Leighton Flowers over at the soteriology101 TH-cam channel but if you’re not, it may not be a bad idea to check them out if only to hear another perspective that may help you form your own conclusion. God bless you brother.
I wish those weren't the passages they had chosen as examples because they are not reflective of the "God repenting" verse I struggle to understand in Exodus 32 : 14. In that passage in the KJV it says God repents of 'Evil', and that has far more serious implications than saying something about Gods foreknowledge. How can God repent of evil when its impossible for the all perfect God to be evil? Sin itself by definition is disobeying Gods will. Even if God did something we would call evil it would be virtuous because he willed it. Yet the KJ translation of the bible clearly calls Gods actions he was planning to do to the Hebrews as 'Evil'. When I brought this up with KJV only-ers he tried replacing the word evil with 'hate' challenging me on how God can hate. But his bible doesn't say God repented of hating the sinning Hebrews, it says he repented of the evil he was setting out to do to them.
i see your point what else do you see regarding GOD repenting of HIS evil ? i saw this points before but not alot bring it up and like to talk about it.. please share your revelations
@@jokspr314 I am not a prophet. I dont have "revelations" on this. I just have questions I feel have never been answered adequately by those who need to address them. I'm not a KJV only-ers so it's not that important to me. Every other translation says wrath instead of evil, and nothing is problematic with that.
"and it repented the lord" So is repenting, regret? So are we to regret our sins? I always thought repent, meant to cease doing. CEASE living in sin... I think god is outside of the boundaries of time, and in being such, can see everything before... does he CHOOSE to do so? In some instances i believe no, he doesn't, i think he likes watching things play out. But it's not without its risk. How boring would it be, if you knew everything all the time? I mean why even create man? It's like watching a movie when you wrote the entire script... just... why? I think god CHOOSES to not see everything, because he doesn't want to. It's just a hunch.
We repent from wrongdoing. God has never done anything wrong. When it says He repented, it’s not like us. We don’t understand it because we’re not meant to.
To my understanding I agree with Memento despair's definition of repentance. However, the question remains that why does God change His mind if that is what repentance really means?
No. Repent means sorrow, regret, change of mind...depend how the context of that word.... For example, I repented eating that cake ( regret) I was going to buy that blue car, but repented, so I get a red car ( chnage of mind)
In the Bible, God makes mistakes too. That is why God made the mistake of placing Saul as the King of Israel even though Saul had difference of opinion about it. In 1 Samuel 15, God regretted making Saul as the King of Israel. I also recommend my video on Joab and David which exposes the true nature of David.
Dude that's probably one of the most stupidest things you could say God DOES NOT make mistakes at all lol he simply does not HE CANT make a single mistake at all if he did he wouldn't be a god
@@timv9242 There is nothing stupid about it. God himself admits the fact that he made mistake by placing Saul as the first King of Israel. That is revealed in 1 Samuel 15. It is not my words. It is God's words.
@@timv9242 God repented, because it was God's decision to place Saul as the King. Not Saul's. Even Saul had difference of opinion about it. So it was completely God's fault.
It sounds like he is trying to explain who God is rather than understanding who He is. God has emotions he has feelings. God said he repented then He did what he said he did. Why would calvanists try and explain something they don't understand?
It seems like defeating open theism is more important to the speakers of this video, than plain straight forward hermanutics. It's an interesting thought to say that God feels sorrow for needing to ounish man. Genisis 6:6 says that God repented for making man. That's not the same thing. Also, most laypeople through the centuries seem to have thought that God is a personage, and not asei. The Samuel verse seems specific to the situation. Not a statement on God's metaphysical state.
@Moodboard39 My point is that the classical view of God stems directly from the musings of Plato. It is possible that God exists outside of sequential events, but the Bible does not say this is the case. A person must take Plato's concept of "The one" and isegete it into scripture to come up with a classical view of God's attributes. I have studied philosophy a fair bit, but when I read the Bible, my only axioms are that God is real, and the Bible is true. With those axioms alone, the Bible seems to depict a universe that is dependent on God and heavily influenced by Him, but it is a place with multiple possible outcomes. When you drill down past the nonsense of compatabilism and molonism.. A person is left with 2 choices, hard determinism, or a place with possibilities.
I agree with pastor John that regret and repentance do not mean the same thing for God and man. It’s anthropomorphic language to help us understand God. It simply shows that God will change the way he works with his creatures. I disagree however that God can experience any emotional change. Either caused by himself or by the creature’s actions. God has no passions, it’s a natural conclusion from God’s eternality, immutability and infinity. How can the God that is infinite joy within himself experience a diminishment in that joy by experiencing sorrow? He can’t! He would no longer be infinite joy. How can the God that is infinite compassion within himself be stirred up by the creature’s predicament to have greater compassion? He can’t! He would no longer be infinite compassion. God is impassable he does not suffer or grieve or experience emotional change. He is without body, parts and PASSIONS!
@ihavetubes The Bible also says he doesn’t change at all. The answer to your question is, yes I would say that God is always happy, but it’s not that simple or black and white. He is also angry at sin everyday. He hates wickedness and evil always. There are a few reasons I can give to support this claim. 1) God is independent. He needs no one or nothing. A god that changes from one emotional state to another is reliant upon his creatures for his happiness. If we have the power to make God unhappy then we also hold the power to make him happy. God does not rely on us for his happiness. 2) God is timeless (He is not bound by time). He does not experience consecutive events through time like we do. He is in all places and times in one moment. Any Change at all is dependent upon God being bound by time and being moved from one event to another. 3) God is perfect. For something to change it must always be either for better or for worse. God to be perfect must not change at all. This is because any change would either move God from perfection to imperfection or into a state of perfection, which means he wasn’t perfect to begin with. 4) God is infinite. I touched on this above. If God is infinite in all ways. If his being is immeasurable and uncontainable then it follows his happiness is infinite and therefore can not change. If it did then that aspect of God would not be infinite. You can’t add or take away anything from infinity. Hope this helps clear my position up.
Your right, I think that's the best way of understanding. But also in genesis 6, the term is also wordplay from the naming of Noah in chapter 5, verse 29
I respectfully disagree with the spanking analogy. The spanking did in fact happen, and regret is felt afterwards. The repentance of God in scripture is a change in behavior and intent- not just feelings of regret. God did not destroy Israel like he said he would to Moses. God did not destroy Nineveh like he said he would. (That’s why Jonah was so angry.) Hezekiah didn’t die like God initially announced. Either God lies, OR... he changes his mind. There’s no way around it.
What makes you think threats arent warnings? God repeatedly threathens the world to repentance as fear of the Lord is the beginning if wisdom and infact keeps you from evil.
@@abdulshahidalajev115 I do believe threats are warnings. I also believe that when God gives said warnings, He doesn’t always know if the warning will be heeded or not. That’s why He says that He repents of the evil He “thought to do unto” them. He thought He was actually going to do it. Sometimes God doesn’t know if we will choose to love and obey Him. That’s why many times the Bible describes Him “tempting” people in order to “know all that was in (their) hearts.”
This is why I don't like listening to theologians. They need too much to protect God, no different from the protect the pastors...EVEN WHEN THE PASTOR IS BLATANTLY WRONG. Hence CAUSING PEOPLE TO lose FAITH, LACK OF TRUST and integrity. I WILL EXPLAIN and you can send me to hell after. THE EEEEEEEEENTIRE BIBLE!!! Is about Man and God's relationship and something that happened. Man; created in God's Image (and image here means CHARACTER AND SUBSTANCE,) fall from God having SIN man becomes gods..having sovereign control over there "WALK" through a thing called WILL. Man have choices and CAN CHOOSE to disobey or obey God as they please and through this COMES SORRY IN GOD"S HEART the very thing he LOVE and adore and the apply of His eyes (MAN) struggles to keep on the good account and often wonders away and stray from His precepts and will. IT IS WRITTEN "I will not completely destroy them but will SAVE THEM for they are BUT MAN"..meaning futile and fragile SINCE MAN WONDERED AWAY. BUT MAN HAVE WILL THAT GOD ETHER CANT OR won't TOUCH. Fuck you theologians who feel the need to tell lie to help God God doesn't need a clean IMAGE GIVE YOUR PASTORS DAT.
u need to go read vines dictionary and you shall see i am correct @@Moodboard39 heres the copy from the page itself.........[ C-1,Noun,G3341, metanoia ] "afterthought, change of mind, repentance," corresponds in meaning to A, No. 1, and is used of "repentance" from sin or evil, except in Hebrews 12:17, where the word "repentance" seems to mean, not simply a change of Isaac's mind, but such a change as would reverse the effects of his own previous state of mind.
The Bible is full of stories that assume God was the source because they lacked the ability to determine that actual cause. According to a divine revelation, the God is not personally involved with the creation aspects of evolutionary time-space phenomenon. God's only involvement on that level is on the personal level, connecting with ascendent beings. The folks who wrote the Bible thought violent forces of nature were deity induced. But owing to all the misunderstandings of God in various religious texts, our celestial overseers have provided us with a divine revelation that clears up a ton of confusion. To wit: "0:0.1 (1.1) IN THE MINDS of the mortals of Urantia - that being the name of your world - there exists great confusion respecting the meaning of such terms as God, divinity, and deity. Human beings are still more confused and uncertain about the relationships of the divine personalities designated by these numerous appellations. Because of this *conceptual poverty associated with so much ideational confusion,* I have been directed to formulate this introductory statement in explanation of the meanings which should be attached to certain word symbols as they may be hereinafter used in those papers which the Orvonton corps of truth revealers have been authorized to translate into the English language of Urantia. 0:0.2 (1.2) It is exceedingly difficult to present enlarged concepts and advanced truth, in our endeavor to expand cosmic consciousness and enhance spiritual perception, when we are restricted to the use of a circumscribed language of the realm. But our mandate admonishes us to make every effort to convey our meanings by using the word symbols of the English tongue. We have been instructed to introduce new terms only when the concept to be portrayed finds no terminology in English which can be employed to convey such a new concept partially or even with more or less distortion of meaning...." truthbook.com/urantia-book-viewer/
bla bla bla we want an answer from the bible we dont care for your yaping god doesnt regret regret is from an error of not knowing the outcome of something that nagates gods all knowing nature it will be easy if you just say its another contradiction in the bible and save us time Numbers 23:19 and Genesis 6:6-7 - Does God repent or not?
@@singaputra9865 I already gave up trying to make sense of an inconsistent book that passes off demonstrably horrific and immoral actions and concepts as moral and just. I'd like to think I'm better than that.
@@robertpaulson9813 demonstrably horrific and immoral - based on what ethical calculus? Your own? Or God's? Robert, as a believer, I can assure you that God's ways are very different to our own. I'd recommend looking in depth at what it means to be holy, and the implications God's holiness has for the way he regards sin. Don't give up on seeking the truth - come to God with a humble, open heart and ask him to help you understand the bible
Darling, Im sorry you feel this way and are so deeply hurt. You must not pity yourself but turn your focus to our Father in Heaven. If you be still and close your eyes and ask Jesus please show me where were you he will show you beloved he weeped with you in a corner as you past your Job moments. We are each tested as we profess n glorify our Master. You must not give in to the lie of the enemy as God allowed your hedge to be removed momentarily to teach you Hebrew 10:36 and Hebrew 12:7. Do not forget others before you have been tested. Thank the Lord God for your life in blessings and correcting as it is a miracle to take a breath. Resist the devil Dear one and he will flee from you. Read Psalms as there were many moments of utter despair and remember you are not alone. Please don’t believe the lies of the enemy don’t snuff out your beautiful light but let it shine as you are an overcomer. You are still here child you have meaning and purpose. Look closer and although you are enveloped by darkness... do you see? Look it is our King Jesus holding a still small flame for U. We have free will...choose him. Run to his loving arms. He has always been there and will always be there with you. I pray you be healed and seek Gods plan
He still didn't answer the question. God repents 26 times in the Bible. God says, "Lest perhaps..." Concerning 1 Samuel 15, God did repent in verse 11. He repents again in verse 35. He does not repent in verse 29. Why not? Pastor John ignores the context!!! 1 Samuel 15:24ff clearly shows that Saul has a false repentance. Samuel tells Saul that God is taking away Saul's throne! Saul "repents" but blames "the people" for his disobedience. Samuel knows Saul is a liar and turns to leave! Just as Samuels garment is torn, God has torn the kingdom from Saul! God will not REPENT (change His mind) about His decision to remove Saul from the throne. He is not fickle like a man. He made his decision! He knows Saul is a liar and will not restore Saul to the throne. The story end in verse 35 where God again repents that He set Saul as king over Israel.
Its true..since we have free will and freeness of speech.... He done not know what every one will do be for they do it....just cause he knows all things....things don't exist until you do them...so he cane know the things we do until we do them
I think, any emotional sorrows come from inside ourselves - not outside; which means, the sorrow is from you to you, with your power to your power. So if your attack power is stronger than your defense power, you'll feel that sorrow. He's powerful compared to us, but not compared to Himself. Umm, is this difficult to understand..? Sorry, I'm not all that good at explaining things. Anyway, this is just what I think, please correct me if I'm mistaken, thanks. 💛
I think Pastor John answered the question wonderfully. God repents and regrets not because he didn't see it coming, but because he already saw it coming, but he has feelings for his children so he feels sorrow when they did something wrong and now as a father he has to punish them (so they can grow or learn something, for the better future) even when he doesn't want to. I don't know how you imagine God is like. But to me God is love, like a father. And a father has feelings for his children. That's why he punish but he also forgive and reward. If God is just an all powerful supreme emotion less like what you say. Everyone has to follow his rules, his control, you have no free will and he has no emotions or mercy on you, I wonder what this world would be like? He is just like our earthly fathers. They get angry at us when we do something wrong and punish us, not for us to feel painful but to stop us from making the same mistakes. And when they punish us, it wound them too.
@@rogerairborne why do you say human emotion? If God is the creator of emotion and we are made in his image, wouldnt human emotion just be a fraction of the potency of emotion stemming from God’s own person?
Does god has emotion lol and god has heart what a joke if god has emotion and heart why with his will everyday innocence ppl are dying and if god knows the future he would know what happened in the future so let's not blame God by changing ur books with ur hands coz god knows everything and he never repent coz he know the consequence then what's the use of repenting
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Job 26:7 “He stretches out the north over the void, and the earth hangs on nothing”
Psalm 104:5 “ he sets the earth on its foundation, so it could never be moved”
God doesn’t really talks about the shape of the earth and all that because he knows that humans will soon figure out all this things, he just give a little detail like that first verse, saying the earth hangs on nothing, i would have showed you more verses but i am busy right now.
@Danny Murdach that's awesome brother prison ministry is crucial and something I'd love to do one day too!
Truly indeed.
I love that you watch Desiring God! I’ve watched your videos for a while now but I never knew you watched this too! I love John Piper and I also love your channel as well so keep it up brother!
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I was reading the book of Samuel and was troubled by what I thought was a great controversy. Thanks for the great explanation!
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God is all knowing He knew us before we were born
Ultimately, we just have to humble ourselves when it comes to this question. When Scripture tells us that God isn't a man that He should repent, I always understood it as God doesn't repent from sin. Unless God reveals to us the meaning, because Scripture mentions the same thing during Noah's day in how He regretted making man, we just have to say we don't know. Of course we can speculate and have hypotheses. Ain't nothing wrong with that. The one I find interesting is God knows the end result of every choice we make and can make, but the choices themselves aren't set in stone. This would give credence to why Scripture tells us about the longsuffering of God. How He is slow to anger, and abundant in lovingkindness.
There many problems with that
The concept of God regretting, as described in passages such as Genesis 6:6-7, raises several theological and philosophical questions. Here are some of the main issues that have been raised in relation to God's regret:
1. Divine Omniscience: If God is all-knowing and has perfect foreknowledge, how can God experience regret? Regret typically arises from not knowing the full consequences of one's actions beforehand. Some theologians propose that God's regret is a way of expressing divine grief and concern, while others suggest that God's knowledge of possibilities does not necessarily entail knowledge of actualities.
2. Divine Immutability: If God is unchanging, how can God experience regret? Regret often implies a change of mind or a recognition of a mistake. Some theologians argue that God's regret is a way of communicating God's response to human actions within the framework of divine purposes, while others propose that God's immutability can be understood in a relational and responsive sense.
3. Divine Perfection: If God is perfect and without error, how can God regret past actions? Regret is often associated with acknowledging a mistake or an imperfection. Some theologians interpret God's regret as a form of accommodation, using human language and emotions to communicate divine truths, while others propose that God's regret stems from God's self-imposed limitations in creating free creatures.
4. Theodicy: If God is all-powerful and all-loving, why would God regret creating humanity? Some question how God's regret fits within the broader theological understanding of God's attributes and the problem of evil. Various interpretations have been offered, including God's response to human moral choices and the necessity of judgment and restoration.
5. Biblical Interpretation: The interpretation and understanding of specific scriptural passages that mention God's regret can vary. Different translations, cultural contexts, and theological frameworks can influence how these passages are understood, leading to diverse interpretations and perspectives on the concept of God's regret.
These are complex theological issues, and theologians and scholars have offered various perspectives and interpretations in attempting to address them. The concept of God's regret continues to be a topic of theological reflection and discussion within different religious traditions.
@@Moodboard39 One possibility I've researched is the idea that (In relation to Genesis 6 6) God didn't know there would be those who would ultimately choose to reject Him. Why? Its because before our creation, there was nothing to know in what we "would" do.
You see, how can "our will" and "our choices" exist before we exist? If they existed before God created us, you would almost have to say we always existed, or at least a part of us. Thus, making us like God in that aspect, having no beginning.
So in this understanding, God wouldn't have known, because there was nothing to know. God knows everything, yet concerning our will pre our existence, our will was nothing.
@@ryanmoss1690 Than he's not all knowing than ..and if he's not all knowing that contradict Hebrew 4:3...
@@ryanmoss1690 that doesn't answer the question . There no answer but your idea interpretation of it ..do you know what regret means ?
Great job.
that is was the best explanation about repentece of God around from man.....
Wow, God is amazing 😇😁🤗
a feeling of sadness about something sad or wrong or about a mistake that you have made, and a wish that it could have been different and better:
Beautifully explained
A few points:
The word is not originally in English, from what I read a lot of these times the word written in the original Hebrew translates to Mourn more so than regret. Very subtle difference but an important one.
Another point: have you ever drunk a lot of beer or what not knowing you were going to have a bad hangover if you did so and did it anyway? Then wake up the next day and regret what you did? Or had a friend do that? You can know the result of something and still do it. Heck God could have felt that mourning and regret before it all and still did it. He’s just mentioning it here. He is outside of time anyway so it’s all happing at once for him.
God being outside of time is a thought that comes from Greek philosophy, not from Hebrew culture or the Bible.
@@travissharon1536 that’s not true at all. That’s been a view of the Hebrew text and belief for just as long if not longer dating back to the Bronze Age collapse. There is plenty of writing that dates as far back that suggest it’s been a belief of Jewish culture for as long as Jewish culture has been around
Also where the heck did you get the idea Greeks thought that. They don’t believe in one God. They believed in a pantheon with different types of gods and only recently has any interpretation I’ve seen suggest any God has that sort of ability. Otherwise how would Zues and the other Gods have been eaten by the titans and struggle so much if they were outside time
@@jonahbutterfield5792 It's like you intentionally missed the point of my comment.
I said the belief about God being outside of time, is a Greek philosophy thing. Specifically Plato's concept of the one.
Of course, the Hebrews believed in YHWH. The idea that YHWH has not interaction with time is not hebrew.
I believe God's omniscience is something He posseses to use as and when He chooses. There's plenty of evidence that He likes to watch things play out on Earth, so it makes sense that He would only look into the parts of the future He wants to reveal to Himself in His own good timing. He has perhaps an infinite number of future 'boxes' let's say, that He peeks inside of whenever He wants, to bring about His plans and maybe even to answer prayer. I reckon His omnipresence works in a similar way. He is able to be everywhere at all times, but probably won't be hanging around in a dark sewer for example, as He has no business there and doesn't desire it. He is much more likely to be present in a consecrated host or in the heart of a believer or in a hospital where life and death is unfolding, etc, etc.
That actually makes sense
God sees everything, even the darkest sewers. In Mozambique, people were so poor that orphaned children were living on rubbish dumps like discarded waste. So God sent Christians there to start orphanages, to preach the gospel to people, so their physical bodies are saved and they are saved for eternity. If God didn't see every little thing, know everything, he wouldn't have seen that and be able to save them.
The presence of God is something a bit different, which it sounds like you are talking about. The presence of God went with the Israelites in the desert and we can know his presence by asking him to dwell in us.
What you're saying is God possesses omniscience, but to what extent He uses it (chooses to use it) is limited. Your next sentence says that God only looks to the things He wants to see in the immediate future, which will soon come to pass, so that when that immediate future comes to present, He will have looked through at least through what was necessary for Him to envision, and if not, already sees everything/every possible outcome. Same logic for where He is present: He choses to manifest Himself in certain locations where there is potential for His activity to occur and not a dingy corner of a sewage pipe.
To me this sounds like a diminished God, who for some reason, cannot bear to to look at everything in the eye, but only what is enough for Himself to handle and enough so that what needs to happen comes to reality. What I believe you're getting at is what is observable on our end (the specific way in which God was evidently omniscient in a specific situation that actually happened/happens) is the limit on the scope of God's omniscience. Extend that logic in the parenthesis to many, many more specific situations and you would find that God knows things only up to the point of all possibilities on earth, in the universe, or in creation. Though I think God is an infinite creator, His creation itself is finite in some way, whether it be the creation's duration of existence, capabilities, or attributes. In other words, it appears you are saying that though God is all knowing, capable of everything, and being everywhere, He can only be all-knowing, all-powerful, and ever-present in locations and things He made.
My challenge to you is where exactly in the Scriptures do you see Biblical evidence for your view? 2 Cor 10:5 tells us to "take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ."
Reading Scripture, here's what I think:
Eph 2:10 says that "we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for Good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them," indicating God is indeed all knowing and has predestined everything. God knows all. He may see that His creation was good when He first made it in Gen 1, but to only say that He likes to watch things play out on earth is you assuming that God finds amusement as reality unfolds (which doesn't capture how He patiently waits for sinners to come to Him before Christ returns to judge the earth, per 2 Pet 3:1-13). This predetermination reveals God's omniscience is truly omniscience, not just knowing-in-all-creation.
Eph 4:6 says God is "over all and through all and in all," indicating He is certainly in the sewers, cat boxes, and the hearts of man. God's omnipresence is truly omnipresence, not just present-in-all-creation.
Daniel 4:35 says "all the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and He does according to His will among the host of Heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay His hand or say to Him, 'What have you done?'," indicating God is sovereign and in control. Referring to your comment on God opening boxes maybe even to answer prayer, only God's will, which is predetermined, comes to pass. When we pray, we must pray in accordance to His will. 1 John 5:14 supplies, "if we ask anything according to His will He hears us." When we pray, we seek to submit our will and wishes under God to be in line with His will and intents. Prayer is that process of turning ourselves from ourselves and towards God and godliness.
We know this is true because God is holy--He is set apart. He is so set apart from anything, anything created, or just anything, that in Isa 6:3 and Rev 4:8, seraphims say "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; the whole earth is full of His glory!" and "Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!"
How set apart God is is incomprehensible for our finite human minds. We can only see His attributes to the extent in which we can observe creation, and this explanation is what our finite minds can comprehend. That should humble any one of us to "trust in the Lord will all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make straight your paths," as written in Prov 3:5-6. This, I think, is what you're getting at in your comment.
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@@JonCChan You say 'set apart', yet He actively chose to live and even die as one of us. So I reckon He sets Himself just as apart as He wills and just as With Us as He wills for His purpose and pleasure. He 'sets' the entire universe and manifests in myriad ways, according to His holy will, which none of us knows unless you count the Lord Jesus as one of us, which of course as a Christian I do. One of God and one of us, as such of both having likes and dislikes. So yes, where poor families inhabit sewers, He being the Good Shepherd may well be present, but where there are only rats and filth I think not so much.
@@JonCChan you put so much into this and may the Lord bless you for it
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Idk, I think the guy with the question makes a better point, tbh. I personally think that nothing makes sense if God knew exactly what was going to happen.
There would be no point to anything.
that a great answer to a very complicated question !
When did he even answer the question?
Yeah.certainly great assurance of ALLTIMES.
And it repented the Lord that he had made man and it grieved him at the heart.
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I enjoy the explanation, but I am sort of confused as to whether the answer addressed both repentance and regret. From what I understand, Pastor John seemed to give an answer as to why God regrets not so much as why He changes His mind[which will eventually change one's actions] which is what I believe repentance to be
No, repent has different meaning. It means : regret, sorrow, remorse, or change of mind, depending how it's used in the context
Genesis 6 : God regretted making man. Pretty clear. In that context doesn't mean chnage of mind... Because other scriptures back it up, Samuel God regrets making Saul king of Israel Cuz he was failure...
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Can u explain the whole story of the Bible that God repent why they created man??? What book chapter and verses?? I wait for ur it answers
Using that spanking analogy though, there is a difference between you and God. Even if you spanked your son and he ran away as a result, you did not foresee or predestine your son's choice to run away. In fact, you probably didn't even foresee or predestine that your son would do something to warrant a spanking in the first place (especially not before your son was even born). You did not see the future before your son was born and say to yourself "I'm going to have my son disobey me in the future so that I can spank him and he will run away". Meanwhile, God pretty much does precisely that, and this is what I believe the issue here is. God predestined everything that happens (even to the point of having angels and prophets prophesy things to take place centuries in the future, long before any of the people involved in the prophesy are even born). Then, he still creates those people, allows everything to happen as prophesized, and then punishes people and laments. I believe that this is what is so jarring to a lot of people who have an issue with this topic. Just for the record, I do indeed believe in God's omniscience and foreknowledge and sovereignty. I'm just explaining here why that spanking analogy doesn't really hold up in my humble opinion. I know that this video is years old, but if you or anyone else in the comments section would like to reply to this, I am very open to any responses to this. I have been trying to get closer to the Lord lately, but as I have been reading I have personally been finding myself struggling to swallow very bitter pills (most of which ultimately do come down to the concept of predestination and God's foreknowledge), so if anyone can help me actually see the light in this concept, it would be most welcome.
I came to the comment section hoping someone else would notice that terribly flawed analogy. I have found many calvinists are somehow blinded to this logic. I have read Pastor John Piper’s articles as well as heard him and other calvinists on this subject and I’ve come to the conclusion that the issue lies in our perception of time. With the human mind we will never be ever to fully grasp or understand the concept (obviously) but I find it much more consistent to just admit that there’s something we’re not understanding about time rather than to call into question God’s character. (Though calvinists and many other Christians will say it doesn’t, try arguing that to a non-believer). Somehow, God being outside of our linear time, is able to know the beginning and end all while human free will is altering the timeline. It seems much more plausible and more acceptable of a conundrum than to try to “square the circle” that is the Calvinist conundrum. Even John Piper will admit that though we can’t understand it, God alone determines man’s response while at the same time making him accountable to Himself (who predetermined it) for that response. Anyways, just my opinion. I hope that this is of some help. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Provisionism and Leighton Flowers over at the soteriology101 TH-cam channel but if you’re not, it may not be a bad idea to check them out if only to hear another perspective that may help you form your own conclusion. God bless you brother.
You can play with words but the verse means what it says. The only logical answer is writer made mistake in writing the God's statement.
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Wow!
I wish those weren't the passages they had chosen as examples because they are not reflective of the "God repenting" verse I struggle to understand in Exodus 32 : 14. In that passage in the KJV it says God repents of 'Evil', and that has far more serious implications than saying something about Gods foreknowledge. How can God repent of evil when its impossible for the all perfect God to be evil? Sin itself by definition is disobeying Gods will. Even if God did something we would call evil it would be virtuous because he willed it. Yet the KJ translation of the bible clearly calls Gods actions he was planning to do to the Hebrews as 'Evil'. When I brought this up with KJV only-ers he tried replacing the word evil with 'hate' challenging me on how God can hate. But his bible doesn't say God repented of hating the sinning Hebrews, it says he repented of the evil he was setting out to do to them.
i see your point what else do you see regarding GOD repenting of HIS evil ? i saw this points before but not alot bring it up and like to talk about it.. please share your revelations
@@jokspr314 I am not a prophet. I dont have "revelations" on this. I just have questions I feel have never been answered adequately by those who need to address them.
I'm not a KJV only-ers so it's not that important to me. Every other translation says wrath instead of evil, and nothing is problematic with that.
@@danieldishon688 You ask good questions
But god is everywhere at once right? Doesn't that mean the future too?
If God knows the future it means he knows his future as well. Therefore he cannot change it.
Plus Samuel already warned Israel that this would happen!
"and it repented the lord"
So is repenting, regret? So are we to regret our sins? I always thought repent, meant to cease doing. CEASE living in sin...
I think god is outside of the boundaries of time, and in being such, can see everything before... does he CHOOSE to do so? In some instances i believe no, he doesn't, i think he likes watching things play out. But it's not without its risk.
How boring would it be, if you knew everything all the time? I mean why even create man? It's like watching a movie when you wrote the entire script... just... why?
I think god CHOOSES to not see everything, because he doesn't want to. It's just a hunch.
Repent is to change, like change your mind and actions and thoughts.
We repent from wrongdoing. God has never done anything wrong. When it says He repented, it’s not like us. We don’t understand it because we’re not meant to.
To my understanding I agree with Memento despair's definition of repentance. However, the question remains that why does God change His mind if that is what repentance really means?
No. Repent means sorrow, regret, change of mind...depend how the context of that word....
For example, I repented eating that cake ( regret) I was going to buy that blue car, but repented, so I get a red car ( chnage of mind)
@@MementoDespairNooo, u igorant.., it has different meaning
In the Bible, God makes mistakes too. That is why God made the mistake of placing Saul as the King of Israel even though Saul had difference of opinion about it. In 1 Samuel 15, God regretted making Saul as the King of Israel. I also recommend my video on Joab and David which exposes the true nature of David.
Dude that's probably one of the most stupidest things you could say
God DOES NOT make mistakes at all lol he simply does not HE CANT make a single mistake at all if he did he wouldn't be a god
@@timv9242 There is nothing stupid about it. God himself admits the fact that he made mistake by placing Saul as the first King of Israel. That is revealed in 1 Samuel 15. It is not my words. It is God's words.
@@josephpendleton4927 the lord repented he made saul's king"
Repented means 3 things, sarrow,turn away, change of mind, not mistake
@@timv9242 God repented, because it was God's decision to place Saul as the King. Not Saul's. Even Saul had difference of opinion about it. So it was completely God's fault.
@@josephpendleton4927 Without Saul would David had been king?
It sounds like he is trying to explain who God is rather than understanding who He is. God has emotions he has feelings. God said he repented then He did what he said he did. Why would calvanists try and explain something they don't understand?
Because the bible also say that God doesn't repent... so the issue is there whether you want to deal with it or not.
@@louiscorbett3278lol
Calvinist think men don't have free will lol so guess humanity are robots...he force his will on people...
Saul was bipolar yo :/ what's your deal with the mentally ill? I'm schizoaffective should I be abandoned?
No, God doesn't want to abandon you, therefore He won't. As long as you don't want to be abandoned, it's all good! God's grace is sufficient for you!
Lamentations is an entire book mourning the just destruction and punishment of Jerusalem.
He is complicated
Yeah God recieves no pleasure from the destruction of the wicked even though he is glorified
It seems like defeating open theism is more important to the speakers of this video, than plain straight forward hermanutics.
It's an interesting thought to say that God feels sorrow for needing to ounish man. Genisis 6:6 says that God repented for making man.
That's not the same thing.
Also, most laypeople through the centuries seem to have thought that God is a personage, and not asei.
The Samuel verse seems specific to the situation. Not a statement on God's metaphysical state.
Ur point?
@Moodboard39 My point is that the classical view of God stems directly from the musings of Plato.
It is possible that God exists outside of sequential events, but the Bible does not say this is the case.
A person must take Plato's concept of "The one" and isegete it into scripture to come up with a classical view of God's attributes.
I have studied philosophy a fair bit, but when I read the Bible, my only axioms are that God is real, and the Bible is true. With those axioms alone, the Bible seems to depict a universe that is dependent on God and heavily influenced by Him, but it is a place with multiple possible outcomes.
When you drill down past the nonsense of compatabilism and molonism.. A person is left with 2 choices, hard determinism, or a place with possibilities.
Like sending His Son to die?
Or He came as a man to die for man’s sins
I agree with pastor John that regret and repentance do not mean the same thing for God and man. It’s anthropomorphic language to help us understand God. It simply shows that God will change the way he works with his creatures.
I disagree however that God can experience any emotional change. Either caused by himself or by the creature’s actions. God has no passions, it’s a natural conclusion from God’s eternality, immutability and infinity. How can the God that is infinite joy within himself experience a diminishment in that joy by experiencing sorrow? He can’t! He would no longer be infinite joy. How can the God that is infinite compassion within himself be stirred up by the creature’s predicament to have greater compassion? He can’t! He would no longer be infinite compassion.
God is impassable he does not suffer or grieve or experience emotional change. He is without body, parts and PASSIONS!
The bible says he changes his mood, or do you think God is always Happy?
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The Bible also says he doesn’t change at all. The answer to your question is, yes I would say that God is always happy, but it’s not that simple or black and white. He is also angry at sin everyday. He hates wickedness and evil always.
There are a few reasons I can give to support this claim.
1) God is independent. He needs no one or nothing. A god that changes from one emotional state to another is reliant upon his creatures for his happiness. If we have the power to make God unhappy then we also hold the power to make him happy. God does not rely on us for his happiness.
2) God is timeless (He is not bound by time). He does not experience consecutive events through time like we do. He is in all places and times in one moment. Any Change at all is dependent upon God being bound by time and being moved from one event to another.
3) God is perfect. For something to change it must always be either for better or for worse. God to be perfect must not change at all. This is because any change would either move God from perfection to imperfection or into a state of perfection, which means he wasn’t perfect to begin with.
4) God is infinite. I touched on this above. If God is infinite in all ways. If his being is immeasurable and uncontainable then it follows his happiness is infinite and therefore can not change. If it did then that aspect of God would not be infinite. You can’t add or take away anything from infinity.
Hope this helps clear my position up.
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God made mistake making men... Is clear,.. Repent means different meaning... Regret, sorrow, change of mind... Depending on the context....
God regretted twice.... Genesis and king Saul.... What does regret mean?
...or possibly an anthropomorphic statement.
Your right, I think that's the best way of understanding. But also in genesis 6, the term is also wordplay from the naming of Noah in chapter 5, verse 29
So regret like humans
I respectfully disagree with the spanking analogy. The spanking did in fact happen, and regret is felt afterwards. The repentance of God in scripture is a change in behavior and intent- not just feelings of regret.
God did not destroy Israel like he said he would to Moses. God did not destroy Nineveh like he said he would. (That’s why Jonah was so angry.) Hezekiah didn’t die like God initially announced. Either God lies, OR... he changes his mind. There’s no way around it.
What makes you think threats arent warnings? God repeatedly threathens the world to repentance as fear of the Lord is the beginning if wisdom and infact keeps you from evil.
@@abdulshahidalajev115 I do believe threats are warnings. I also believe that when God gives said warnings, He doesn’t always know if the warning will be heeded or not. That’s why He says that He repents of the evil He “thought to do unto” them. He thought He was actually going to do it. Sometimes God doesn’t know if we will choose to love and obey Him. That’s why many times the Bible describes Him “tempting” people in order to “know all that was in (their) hearts.”
@@thomp6402And regret making men, if he knew why regret? Or it doesn't know they will, but regret...
This is why I don't like listening to theologians. They need too much to protect God, no different from the protect the pastors...EVEN WHEN THE PASTOR IS BLATANTLY WRONG. Hence CAUSING PEOPLE TO lose FAITH, LACK OF TRUST and integrity. I WILL EXPLAIN and you can send me to hell after. THE EEEEEEEEENTIRE BIBLE!!! Is about Man and God's relationship and something that happened. Man; created in God's Image (and image here means CHARACTER AND SUBSTANCE,) fall from God having SIN man becomes gods..having sovereign control over there "WALK" through a thing called WILL. Man have choices and CAN CHOOSE to disobey or obey God as they please and through this COMES SORRY IN GOD"S HEART the very thing he LOVE and adore and the apply of His eyes (MAN) struggles to keep on the good account and often wonders away and stray from His precepts and will. IT IS WRITTEN "I will not completely destroy them but will SAVE THEM for they are BUT MAN"..meaning futile and fragile SINCE MAN WONDERED AWAY. BUT MAN HAVE WILL THAT GOD ETHER CANT OR won't TOUCH. Fuck you theologians who feel the need to tell lie to help God God doesn't need a clean IMAGE GIVE YOUR PASTORS DAT.
when God repented he changed his mind.....repent means from the biblical word METANOIA which means to have a change of mind
No it doesn't. It has different meaning silly.... Research the word before u assume your is corrdct
u need to go read vines dictionary and you shall see i am correct @@Moodboard39 heres the copy from the page itself.........[ C-1,Noun,G3341, metanoia ]
"afterthought, change of mind, repentance," corresponds in meaning to A, No. 1, and is used of "repentance" from sin or evil, except in Hebrews 12:17, where the word "repentance" seems to mean, not simply a change of Isaac's mind, but such a change as would reverse the effects of his own previous state of mind.
He regrets because he had to do it rather than regretting for not being able to do it differently !!!
I like the way you put it, but it still makes the problem that God is somehow against himself or regrets his own perfectly good choices.
@@louiscorbett3278bsd choice I guess
God does not repent. Period. Welly explained.
He does
The Bible is full of stories that assume God was the source because they lacked the ability to determine that actual cause. According to a divine revelation, the God is not personally involved with the creation aspects of evolutionary time-space phenomenon. God's only involvement on that level is on the personal level, connecting with ascendent beings.
The folks who wrote the Bible thought violent forces of nature were deity induced.
But owing to all the misunderstandings of God in various religious texts, our celestial overseers have provided us with a divine revelation that clears up a ton of confusion. To wit:
"0:0.1 (1.1) IN THE MINDS of the mortals of Urantia - that being the name of your world - there exists great confusion respecting the meaning of such terms as God, divinity, and deity. Human beings are still more confused and uncertain about the relationships of the divine personalities designated by these numerous appellations. Because of this *conceptual poverty associated with so much ideational confusion,* I have been directed to formulate this introductory statement in explanation of the meanings which should be attached to certain word symbols as they may be hereinafter used in those papers which the Orvonton corps of truth revealers have been authorized to translate into the English language of Urantia.
0:0.2 (1.2) It is exceedingly difficult to present enlarged concepts and advanced truth, in our endeavor to expand cosmic consciousness and enhance spiritual perception, when we are restricted to the use of a circumscribed language of the realm. But our mandate admonishes us to make every effort to convey our meanings by using the word symbols of the English tongue. We have been instructed to introduce new terms only when the concept to be portrayed finds no terminology in English which can be employed to convey such a new concept partially or even with more or less distortion of meaning...."
truthbook.com/urantia-book-viewer/
He has regreted making people...
i dont blame him.
bla bla bla we want an answer from the bible we dont care for your yaping god doesnt regret regret is from an error of not knowing the outcome of something that nagates gods all knowing nature it will be easy if you just say its another contradiction in the bible and save us time
Numbers 23:19 and Genesis 6:6-7 - Does God repent or not?
He didn’t answer the question
Not even close.
Maybe is because let those who have ears hear? I don't know.. I myself is still learning.. trying.. Don't give up.. I am not going to.
@@singaputra9865 I already gave up trying to make sense of an inconsistent book that passes off demonstrably horrific and immoral actions and concepts as moral and just.
I'd like to think I'm better than that.
@@robertpaulson9813 demonstrably horrific and immoral - based on what ethical calculus? Your own? Or God's? Robert, as a believer, I can assure you that God's ways are very different to our own. I'd recommend looking in depth at what it means to be holy, and the implications God's holiness has for the way he regards sin. Don't give up on seeking the truth - come to God with a humble, open heart and ask him to help you understand the bible
I hate that I was born!!Why God???
Darling, Im sorry you feel this way and are so deeply hurt. You must not pity yourself but turn your focus to our Father in Heaven. If you be still and close your eyes and ask Jesus please show me where were you he will show you beloved he weeped with you in a corner as you past your Job moments. We are each tested as we profess n glorify our Master. You must not give in to the lie of the enemy as God allowed your hedge to be removed momentarily to teach you Hebrew 10:36 and Hebrew 12:7. Do not forget others before you have been tested. Thank the Lord God for your life in blessings and correcting as it is a miracle to take a breath. Resist the devil Dear one and he will flee from you. Read Psalms as there were many moments of utter despair and remember you are not alone. Please don’t believe the lies of the enemy don’t snuff out your beautiful light but let it shine as you are an overcomer. You are still here child you have meaning and purpose. Look closer and although you are enveloped by darkness... do you see? Look it is our King Jesus holding a still small flame for U. We have free will...choose him. Run to his loving arms. He has always been there and will always be there with you. I pray you be healed and seek Gods plan
God did not repent.God relented. Bad translations in the KJV
He still didn't answer the question. God repents 26 times in the Bible. God says, "Lest perhaps..." Concerning 1 Samuel 15, God did repent in verse 11. He repents again in verse 35. He does not repent in verse 29. Why not? Pastor John ignores the context!!! 1 Samuel 15:24ff clearly shows that Saul has a false repentance. Samuel tells Saul that God is taking away Saul's throne! Saul "repents" but blames "the people" for his disobedience. Samuel knows Saul is a liar and turns to leave! Just as Samuels garment is torn, God has torn the kingdom from Saul! God will not REPENT (change His mind) about His decision to remove Saul from the throne. He is not fickle like a man. He made his decision! He knows Saul is a liar and will not restore Saul to the throne. The story end in verse 35 where God again repents that He set Saul as king over Israel.
Repents cames from not knowing.God knows everything. Bible doesnt have a perffect description about God
Its true..since we have free will and freeness of speech.... He done not know what every one will do be for they do it....just cause he knows all things....things don't exist until you do them...so he cane know the things we do until we do them
An all powerful supreme being has regrets? If so, he is not all powerful....
I think, any emotional sorrows come from inside ourselves - not outside; which means, the sorrow is from you to you, with your power to your power. So if your attack power is stronger than your defense power, you'll feel that sorrow. He's powerful compared to us, but not compared to Himself. Umm, is this difficult to understand..? Sorry, I'm not all that good at explaining things. Anyway, this is just what I think, please correct me if I'm mistaken, thanks. 💛
I think Pastor John answered the question wonderfully. God repents and regrets not because he didn't see it coming, but because he already saw it coming, but he has feelings for his children so he feels sorrow when they did something wrong and now as a father he has to punish them (so they can grow or learn something, for the better future) even when he doesn't want to. I don't know how you imagine God is like. But to me God is love, like a father. And a father has feelings for his children. That's why he punish but he also forgive and reward. If God is just an all powerful supreme emotion less like what you say. Everyone has to follow his rules, his control, you have no free will and he has no emotions or mercy on you, I wonder what this world would be like? He is just like our earthly fathers. They get angry at us when we do something wrong and punish us, not for us to feel painful but to stop us from making the same mistakes. And when they punish us, it wound them too.
God is not all-powerful if he falls victim to human emotions.
@@rogerairborne why do you say human emotion? If God is the creator of emotion and we are made in his image, wouldnt human emotion just be a fraction of the potency of emotion stemming from God’s own person?
@@alexfurnermusic7046than u have to admit he regrets...
What about God saying he doesn't like little people or people with big noses
Which "god" are you reffering to? Not The "GOD" in heaven i assume, Be blessed dear💞
LOL WHAT
God in the bible is not Omnipotent and not Omniscient
Well... God doesn't repent, or regret anything. Authors of the Bible anthropomorphize God and thus treat him like they would a human, flawed.
The only reason god created us because he was lonely and wanted to be loved. We are paying the price whether we like it or not.
GOD its not in need to his creation. What price
Does god has emotion lol and god has heart what a joke if god has emotion and heart why with his will everyday innocence ppl are dying and if god knows the future he would know what happened in the future so let's not blame God by changing ur books with ur hands coz god knows everything and he never repent coz he know the consequence then what's the use of repenting
God should regret creating hell!😡
It was not meant for people