Soviet Era Mathematics

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  • @janezperme9770
    @janezperme9770 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1992

    I can confirm that these books were like $3 in 80s. At least in Yugoslavia. Very cheap, yet of high quality in terms of contents.

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      Yep. Basically it was very expensive books, paid by state.

    • @susilgunaratne4267
      @susilgunaratne4267 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

      In my country too, good quality printing & hard cover book at a fraction of a price of a western one. After 1990 no more.

    • @lukagrujic2912
      @lukagrujic2912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      my teacher told me that when they were sudying for balkan championship, they wloud buy shitton of soviet magazines and books to try and solve problems from there

    • @真夜中の橋
      @真夜中の橋 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lukagrujic2912DAMN YOU GORBACHEV! IF IT WERENT FOR YOU USSR WOULDNT HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY DISSOLVED.

    • @真夜中の橋
      @真夜中の橋 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

      @@heyhoe168nah, capitalism made it more expensive than it actually is.

  • @alex_smallet
    @alex_smallet 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2340

    The Mir publishing did not only translate Russian books to foreign languages, but they also published books, written in other languages to Russian, mostly from English. That’s how I learned microelectronics and programming in Soviet Union.

    • @susilgunaratne4267
      @susilgunaratne4267 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Before 1967 it was 'Peace Publishers'.

    • @ДаниилЧернышев-л5й
      @ДаниилЧернышев-л5й 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +250

      @@susilgunaratne4267 Fun fact: 'Mir' has two meanings in russian: 'peace' and 'world', and there's a pun from russian general - "Нам нужен мир. Желательно весь." - we need peace(world?). Preferrably all of it (definitely world :D)

    • @nikemaul
      @nikemaul 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      ​@@ДаниилЧернышев-л5й That's an interpretation without considering the huge soviet literature about peace, end of war, generational change, youth progress, workers progress, etc. Their foreign politics definitely points to "we need peace" not we need world. They also named the International Space Station MIR, clearly as a symbol of brotherhood.

    • @igoranisimov6549
      @igoranisimov6549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@nikemaul They also had toy stores "Detsky Mir" which is the most common use of the word "mir" meaning "the universe"... as for the other meaning "peace" it was widely used by Russia's diplomats even until today. The irony is that the classic Russian literature was always about some struggle or suffering.

    • @ФеофанЭтополедолжнобытьзаполне
      @ФеофанЭтополедолжнобытьзаполне 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Чего тебе в союзе родные авторы не написали такого, что ты смог узнать только благодаря переводам?

  • @ivanraevsky
    @ivanraevsky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +591

    I'm from Russia, all my math teachers from school or university were just sick in the head (in a good way). They all loved their subject very much and were real enthusiasts of their work. When you talk to them, you get the feeling that they don't really pay attention to you, but all the time they are thinking about math in their heads, dreaming in the clouds. Russian teachers in other subjects are primarily teachers, and math teachers are primarily mathematicians.

    • @ivanraevsky
      @ivanraevsky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Funny story, at my university I was a student at the faculty of state and municipal management. There was no math among the entrance exams, so all my classmates and I had completely forgotten all the math from school. And suddenly we introduced a course of higher mathematics. Without school knowledge, we had to learn everything from scratch, so all our humanitarians could not get above "satisfactory", and I was the only one who passed on "good" and got a scholarship. Math is evil for a humanitarian.

    • @Dmitriy_Pivko
      @Dmitriy_Pivko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      И что у вас за универ?

    • @ivanraevsky
      @ivanraevsky 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Dmitriy_Pivko РАНХиГС

    • @UsuallyDestroyer
      @UsuallyDestroyer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@ivanraevsky ранепа

    • @zhenyaka13
      @zhenyaka13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Great story, bro

  • @umeng2002
    @umeng2002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +632

    The importance of a good textbook cannot be overstated.

  • @kaibroeking9968
    @kaibroeking9968 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1005

    The Soviet era books on Maths and Physics subjects are well worth a read. In Germany, the gold standard in theoretical physics to this day are the ten Volumes of L.D. Landau and E.M.Livshitz "Theoretical Physics", referred to "Der Landau" or "Der Landau-Lifschitz".
    The way to go about using these is, the moment you think you have understood a subject, you turn to the Landau and you'll soon be made aware that you did not fully grasp the intricacies.
    Also, there is a didactically brilliant course on higher mathematics in five volumes by Smirnov: you open it on any topic and it just narrates, concisely, how you get to what you want to know.

    • @AndRei-yc3ti
      @AndRei-yc3ti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I did Nazi that coming

    • @SonOfIsrael-g4f
      @SonOfIsrael-g4f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      I'm studying at MIPT, one of the creators of which is Lev Landau. We call it Landafshitz. We also have a very good workbook on math, the main author is Kudryavtsev. Well, I'm studying the biotechnologies, but I was obligated to pass higher school math exams too (ended by complex analysis), and this book helped me greatly.

    • @jselukov
      @jselukov 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SonOfIsrael-g4f привет, а Вы учитесь на направлении био- физики и информатики или на биотехнологии? Просто сам хочу поступить биофиз Физтеха, хотел бы узнать, что там и как...

    • @SonOfIsrael-g4f
      @SonOfIsrael-g4f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@jselukov биофиз и биоинф это уже магистерские программы, плюс биофиз есть в ЛФИ. Я биотехнолог, бакалавр. У нас очень классно, иногда хочется вскрыться, но в основном очень приятное обучение.

    • @SergeTarasoff
      @SergeTarasoff 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      oh yeah... ландафшиц

  • @nTu4Ka
    @nTu4Ka 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1252

    During USSR era there was a strong culture of education.
    Education was free, strong, mandatory and respectful.

    • @viktorD4
      @viktorD4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Because was really huge problem with mass education in Russian Empire for USSR it was principal issue.

    • @phiscz
      @phiscz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

      @@viktorD4 it's a very common historical trend for previously semi-feudal or otherwise colonized socialist countries to almost immediately implement very rigorous and very effective literacy programs. from '46-'54, 10 million vietnamese people were taught to read (with some students as old as 92 years old); in literally just 1961 alone the cuban literacy rate rose from 60-76% to nearly 100%

    • @JZBaltazar
      @JZBaltazar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      @@viktorD4 You think mass education was not a problem in Germany, UK, France and the USA in the 1910s?

    • @viktorD4
      @viktorD4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@JZBaltazar 20% population of Russian Empire could read and write, high education had 5%.

    • @viktorD4
      @viktorD4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@JZBaltazar despite the fact that the USSR in the period from the 1920s to the early 1940s spent more on education than on everything else, it was still a problem and the war showed this. In other words, the Russians were relatively massively literate in the first generation, and the Germans were in the third generation, and the difference in quality was noticeable.

  • @DerekSpeareDSD
    @DerekSpeareDSD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +785

    the contribution to science made by the USSR cannot be overstated. "Mir" means world or peace in Russian.

    • @arktseytlin
      @arktseytlin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      In that context it meant "World", not peace.

    • @sseriously3043
      @sseriously3043 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      both
      @@arktseytlin

    • @sseriously3043
      @sseriously3043 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      "Mirniy Atom" - peaceful atom
      "Miru -Mir" - Peace to the World
      @@CannelRu

    • @dznuts123
      @dznuts123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      What is the word for peace in English? Man, if only America knows.

    • @Moy_Gospodin
      @Moy_Gospodin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Also - society.

  • @classScribbler
    @classScribbler 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +322

    I remember growing up the Soviet textbooks were very popular amongst Indian students because of their difficulty. We used to have Mir publishing directly in India, although now the same titles are sold by the Indian publishers.
    One day, in my early 20s work life, I came across the wonderful and detailed anthology by Smirnov in 5 volumes. I think for some months, my goal of a decade was to finish those 5 volumes. I used to go in the library just to glare at the soviet books. They would be pretty untouched, not a lot of engineers needed theoretical maths at my place. Although that dream of mine is long lost, it left memories which I will always be fond of.

    • @sergeytrunov7166
      @sergeytrunov7166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Smirnov’s 5 volumes are simply wonderful books. Smirnov received the Stalin Prize for this work, and to receive the Stalin Prize means you have to do something outstanding.... Complex mathematical things are explained so well there that I have not seen anything better. I have all volume 5 and I just can’t be happier that I have them in paper form.

    • @Anonymous-8080
      @Anonymous-8080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      As a student preparing for JEE Advanced. General physics by IE Irodov and another physics book by SS Krotov is still very popular among us.

    • @casusbelli9225
      @casusbelli9225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Smirnov's is a wonderful anthology.

    • @robertcarter8600
      @robertcarter8600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sergeytrunov7166 Yes, Academic Trofim Lisenko thought the same, as well as Sergey Michalkov, for the start. And what about Academic Marr?..

    • @oktogen1476
      @oktogen1476 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tike.

  • @vintovkasnipera
    @vintovkasnipera 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +181

    with western textbooks, especially American, they have a very informal dialogue with the reader, but they also digress at the same time, as if the professor were doing it in real time. They are a real waster of time if you're trying to revise for finals but never highlighted the key points which are like finding a needle in a haystack. Russian textbooks are always very straight to the point, they are easier to read again and again. Isaac Maron's calculus books are quite good too

    • @Stanislav_Shvets
      @Stanislav_Shvets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      *Soviet. not russian.

    • @razzmatazz1974
      @razzmatazz1974 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats when you go to the Schaum series for redemption, trying to cover everything in 3 days ;)

    • @Cereb-info
      @Cereb-info 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Stanislav_Shvets Славный Советский союз, это вообще-то наднациональное явление. Заслуга всего социологического сообщества. Вклад русских, в социально-экономическу базу всего общества, фундаментален.
      Но это уже не так важно🫡

    • @casusbelli9225
      @casusbelli9225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Stanislav_Shvets Most of Russian books are following the steps set up by soviet school. At least when it comes to maths, physics and, allegedly, chemistry.

    • @Stanislav_Shvets
      @Stanislav_Shvets 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@casusbelli9225 You sure? YEGE peredayot privet vsem etim uchebnikam.
      Plus the original talk was about old, not modern times.

  • @marlonbryanmunoznunez3179
    @marlonbryanmunoznunez3179 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +815

    In Latin America books on Science and Mathematics by Mir are fairly well known and appreciated, I have some of the 'Física al alcance de todos' series on my bookshelf. The Soviet Union took popularizig knowledge really seriously and most titles were translated to many languages besides English. These books are legendary.

    • @结实反流
      @结实反流 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, por qué habrá sido??😂

    • @UnderMiles
      @UnderMiles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      yeah, here in Brazil the basic textbooks in the beginning of you major in Physics are something like Stewart's Calculus and Resnick on Physics etc., but the professors would always recommend the Russian Mir books for the students who really wanted to get good at the thing (Piskunov's Calculus, Demidovich's Analysis and so on)
      By the way, in my time the basic 'american' books would cost something like R$150 (+- U$40, at the time) and the 2nd hand Russian about R$20, so it was really worth it going full soviet

    • @junal27
      @junal27 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@UnderMiles En Salvador hay (o habia hace anhos) una libreria, creo que se llama libreria Sebo, en el centro no muy lejos de la ru Chile, que etsa repleta de libros usados y entre los que seguro se encuentran los MIR

    • @sultim7570
      @sultim7570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Haha, Demidovich! We had that book in a calculus course at a Saint Petersburg university

    • @UnderMiles
      @UnderMiles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sultim7570 cool, these books are really nice, specially the exercises (they are way more demanding than the standard american ones). Here we have some great books that give you the same vibe, they're published by IMPA (Institute for Pure & Applied Mathematics).
      @junal27 interesante. En Brasil "sebo" es literalmente el nombre que damos a librerias de libros usados. Quizas el (o la) dueño sea brasileño

  • @douglasstrother6584
    @douglasstrother6584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +555

    Soviet-era Math & Physics books have a different "take" on subjects compared to the West. It's always interesting to do a comparative reading on the same topic.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Can you elaborate on what their different "takes" entails?
      I might buy one of em off ebay or sumn. They sound interesting and shit lol

    • @Rostam.
      @Rostam. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      could you give an example?

    • @wan7ucxOqSUBryTgfpBr7777
      @wan7ucxOqSUBryTgfpBr7777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      must be weapons related math !! interesting !!!

    • @douglasstrother6584
      @douglasstrother6584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

      @@Rostam. "Mechanics" (Vol. 1) starts with the Principle of Least Action.
      "The Classical Theory of Fields" (Vol. 2) starts with Relativity.
      "Electrodynamics of Continuous Media" (Vol. 8) presents good physical discussions of electromagnetic fields in conductors, dielectrics, etc.

    • @FrancoJ-c7p
      @FrancoJ-c7p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      ​@@honkhonk8009They are way more concrete and focused in problem solving. There is lots of great, engaging, iluminating exemples. In the west the books use to be more abastract, following the steps of "Bourbaik" school of mathematics.

  • @nikitadovidchenko6336
    @nikitadovidchenko6336 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +399

    The son of the first author (A. B. Budak) is a great mathematician as well - i believe his lectures on analysis are available online.

    • @MuxaL
      @MuxaL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      True, he is my professor at 深北莫大学

    • @reimannx33
      @reimannx33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who dat?

    • @АлексейВысоцкий-ъ6п
      @АлексейВысоцкий-ъ6п 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@MuxaL Your professor is a grandson)

    • @Sizeofbit
      @Sizeofbit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Хех, он был одним из принимающих экзамен по линейной алгебре, когда я учился на пером курсе. К счастью я к нему не попал)))

    • @ZIT116rus
      @ZIT116rus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Sizeofbitпочему к счастью? Мог бы лично послушать легендарные кулстори

  • @matteod2567
    @matteod2567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    I have studied on these kinds of books for my bachelors in engineering. Old russian texts are THE BEST to learn fundamental physics mathematics, they dont mess around. They just give you so much deep knowledge.

    • @armanella3612
      @armanella3612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes!

    • @rahulsinghmahar9480
      @rahulsinghmahar9480 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you please suggest me some books to get a good grip in physics mathematics....
      Any old Russian books

  • @riturajborah382
    @riturajborah382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +229

    In India, I. E. Irodov's physics book is very popular among the pre-university students who want to pursue science or engineering seriously. I can recollect, those physics problems were damn hard to crack.

    • @antonglushchenko4263
      @antonglushchenko4263 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yup. Problems in Irodov‘s book are really good in terms of prepairing before university, but also to solidify knowledge and general background. Many universities in Russia and countries of former Soviet Union use them or books that are heavily influenced by Irodov

    • @challenger392
      @challenger392 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Wow, that's explains, why solutions of the problems from Irodov on the Internet are in English.

    • @landy3901
      @landy3901 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The problems in Irodov's physics book are difficult to solve, yes. Ironically, in Russian his surname has the root “Herod”)))
      Иродов - Ирод
      Irodov - Irod(Herod in English)

    • @Anonymous-8080
      @Anonymous-8080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes and SS Krotov too

    • @EinstienJr
      @EinstienJr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why is that ironic? Am I missing something?@@landy3901

  • @andreasignorini445
    @andreasignorini445 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    One thing I noticed ( maybe it is obvious)is that each nationality has a certain flavour when it comes to mathematics books... For example french authors tend to go quite abstract, and they prefer a "from the top to the bottom" approach; English ones are more pragmatic, and use concrete examples; russian ones (maybe the ones that I prefer) use a lot of concrete - real world examples, using physics, biology or computer science as examples, and they tend to put a lot of importance in the computational side of the theory.
    Maybe this could be an idea worth exploring in one of your videos.

    • @boptillyouflop
      @boptillyouflop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's quite interesting, I would have thought that French writing would have been closer to English writing.

    • @imakro69
      @imakro69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dunno, russian textbooks in compulsory education were a genuine piece of shit, very poorly written, noone learned anything in my class, and even if they did, everything was forgotten soon after. I remember stupid homework from 1-4th grade, when kids asked their matematicians dads to help, and it was still wrong, either because of a typo, or the task was so stupid, that noone understood what the actual fuck the task was

    • @namesurname624
      @namesurname624 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@imakro69idk dude, I did my first 9 years of school in Russia and when I moved to Europe I was ahead of program so leaped a year forward and even then I excelled beyond my usual grades
      5th year was my perfect math year, all top grades all year. No bribes ;)
      I do remember the 1-4 being tough because the approach is was very formulaic and as a kid I didn't like it.

    • @imakro69
      @imakro69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@namesurname624 but what part of this is your natural predisposition to being good at maths or receiving additional input by parent or tutors

    • @pashaw8380
      @pashaw8380 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@imakro69 You are not really comparing the textbooks written in the current era and those of the Soviet era lol. There is a difference, and math and physics education existed in the Soviet era was more than just brilliant.

  • @striker44
    @striker44 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    Russian math and physics books are gems. Those book size, hard bound cover, the fonts, and style of books are soviet for sure, familiar to those in India, where Mir publisher was popular.

    • @yuriy5376
      @yuriy5376 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are Soviet, not Russian. Modern Russian science is dead like the rest of Russian culture and industry

  • @ernglez4390
    @ernglez4390 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I studied Mathematics in Cuba and these were always my preferred books. Very hardcore and straight to the point. My first class at the University was Mathematical Analysis. Now living in the US, I’m shocked by the low level of Mathematics in general and how you can be a Math Major and do Calculus instead of Analysis in the first years.
    I used to like old American books, but the current enormous books that are being used here are such a waste of time and space. And the topics are very diluted.

  • @sirajsid7760
    @sirajsid7760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    I remember I read couple of Soviet engineering (Mir) books 30 years ago when I was in India. What I discover that they are easily understandable than western books.

    • @marbolitoabbolito
      @marbolitoabbolito 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would you say that Mir's Soviet books are easily understandable cause less rigourous than western ones or cause more systematic and more rigourous and so more complete - so more "easy" cause they really made you understanding?

    • @MichaelGottloib
      @MichaelGottloib 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@marbolitoabbolitofrom my experience (organic chemistry) they are a LOT more rigorous and comprehensive than the western equivalent. If you’re in uni and can get your hands on one, it’s an easy recomendation. Will save you a lot of headaches while studying.

    • @casusbelli9225
      @casusbelli9225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marbolitoabbolito More rigurous and more focused on the deep dive into theory.

  • @marcioamaral7511
    @marcioamaral7511 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    My country has an historical and moral debt to Russia (Angola ❤️)
    My father used to travel to Russia and bring tons of books from MIR
    I'm away from home and brought two books, principles of quantum mechanics by V.A. Fock and Problems in mathematical analysis by B.Demidovitch
    Hard cover,super old,so good ❤️

    • @marcioamaral7511
      @marcioamaral7511 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@evgany-un3dc
      I wanna make a deep dive into soviet mathematics,such a fascinating approach to teach maths.
      Soviets are geniuses and great scientists ❤️

  • @egoredmc
    @egoredmc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Fomin actually belongs to Moscow mathematical school, which includes also scientists like Arnold, Kolmogorov and many others
    Fomin's books are still being used in russian universities (especially one about functional analysis)
    Other scientists, mentioned in the preface of the book shown in the video, are also from Moscow mathematical school and are one of the most well known people in russian math

  • @daniellindner826
    @daniellindner826 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    I love the books by MIR publishers !!! I have 3 of them by now!! Thank you for this video MS ❤

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nice!!!!

    • @aquss33
      @aquss33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      they are quite possibly some of the nicest books I've read

  • @1etcetera1
    @1etcetera1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

    В каждой библиотеке в универе был этот учебник. Кто в МИФИ или на Физтехе учился тот в курсе и в теме.

    • @ЯКрутой-ц1и
      @ЯКрутой-ц1и 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      стоит к прочтению?

    • @Crazmuss
      @Crazmuss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      А он и есть, это английская версия редкая.

    • @1etcetera1
      @1etcetera1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ЯКрутой-ц1и так если факультативно перед сном. Есть и повеселее методички.

    • @ИбрагимДринкерманн
      @ИбрагимДринкерманн 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      В МИРЭА тоже был. И это не хардкор, а обычный учебник. Вроде у всех был, даже на факультетах «без математики». На кибернетике, особенно при специальностях АСОИУ или прикладной математике это было что-то вроде легкой прелюдии перед тем как тебя начинали сношать настоящей жестью. Правда когда МИРЭА стали укрупнять там математика просела до уровня ниже плинтуса, но в конце девяностых - начале нулевых там дрючили с математикой как надо. Кафедра высшей математики производила больше солдат, чем требовалось. 😂
      А самое обидное, что к тому времени, как эта самая математика мне понадобилась в жизни я ее успел основательно подзабыть. Кто бы знал, что нейронки так стрельнут. У нас было полное ощущение, что это бред сумасшедших преподов, а они своими советскими головами дотумкали еще тогда, к чему все идет.

    • @ЖизненноПознавательно
      @ЖизненноПознавательно 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Тихонов Самарский тоже был? У нас "Уравнения математической физики" курс их был

  • @Coalwarrior2012
    @Coalwarrior2012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    As a retired urban designer, economist and attorney, I find your videos fascinatingly informative. I'm enjoying a maths refresher from them.

    • @TheMathSorcerer
      @TheMathSorcerer  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Awesome, thank you!

    • @demetriobesidovskiy3491
      @demetriobesidovskiy3491 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      how did you manage to become an urban designer? That is my own goal, i am currently studying law

    • @Coalwarrior2012
      @Coalwarrior2012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@demetriobesidovskiy3491 Short answer as follows: started college as a physics/math major at 17, dropped out of college due to Vietnam war draft, returned to university after several years to study economics and political science at Yale. After graduation worked for the then "cutting edge" urban planning department of the city of New Haven, Connecticut. In the 1970s the U.S. federal and state government had infrastructure development policies. The Reagan presidency killed those policies. Now all major and minor U.S. cities are crumbling. I do think that urban design and development will return, but only after significant regime change in America.

  • @peterhall6656
    @peterhall6656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I have many MIR books. I taught myself enough Russian to read original papers by the Russian probability Mafia - Kolmogorov, Markov, Lyapunov etc etc etc. If you think Fomin's book is hard core it is a walk in the park compared to the probability stuff ! Gelfand and Fomin are of course famous for their work on calculus of variations. My favourite Russian mathematician is V I Arnold who relentlessly took the piss out of French mathematicians influenced by the Bourbaki school of abstraction. If you study KAM theory the K is Kolmogorov, the A is Arnold and the M is Moser. Quite a few NASA, JPL people have been deeply trained in KAM theory.

    • @capitalistche
      @capitalistche 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      may I ask how did you teach yourself russian? was it assimil?

    • @peterhall6656
      @peterhall6656 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@capitalistche Just got a basic textbook and learnt enough to get the gist of the mathematical arguments. I was able to work out what they were doing. No language labs. This was in 1970.

    • @vnever9078
      @vnever9078 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I see you are a fellow man of culture

  • @RateOfChange
    @RateOfChange 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Piskunov's Differential and Integral Calculus (Mir) is by far one of the best calculus books I've ever read. It is small compared to Spivak's, Thomas' or Apostol's books on the subject, but it's still a great book and was the one that really helped me grasp the concepts when I was a freshman and couldn't even understand what limits were haha
    I bought an original copy released in the 60's (its pages are yellowish!) 10 years ago when I was in the first semester of the physics course and I still have it. I'll keep that book forever.

    • @sreenathbh2610
      @sreenathbh2610 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Piskunov's two volume books are gems. Lots of Indian engineering students had them as reference books. MIR publishers used to sell these at very affordable prices.

  • @nolanalexander8696
    @nolanalexander8696 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    This is exactly what I listened in a podcast about immigrant computer scientists, one of the guest were an Egyptian-American electrical engineering professor. He grew up in Alexandria (Iskandariyya), Egypt. He told listener that when he was in student age (either college or high school) there were Russian and French cultural center at Alexandria, selling inexpensive science books and teaching science classes, where he learn math and physics that helped him to set his foot in American academic life. Based on what he said, the quality are top notch. This video just prove that.

    • @reazapple4009
      @reazapple4009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, what's the name of the podcast? Thanks.

    • @nolanalexander8696
      @nolanalexander8696 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@reazapple4009 Immigrant Computer Scientist

  • @leonbuslay1140
    @leonbuslay1140 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Greetings from the Faculty of Physics of Lomonosov Moscow State University! Had to have my hands on this book during my freshman's year, up to modern days it still gets minor updates and is being reprinted. I am proud to study in the very same lecture halls (by this moment I'm in my senior year), where materials for this book have originated.
    P.S. Rest in Peace prof. Valentin Fyodorovich Butuzov (1939-2021) - Former head of Math. Department at the Faculty of Physics.
    He gave only a single lecture in person for my class during my first year right before Covid shutdown in 2020. Damn virus got him even despite all the shutdown measures. But on the bright side we have 4 his fully recorded lecture courses in free access with compiled written materials for them. It was a great sourse of knoledge for me and I hope will be for future generations of Physics students here in Moscow State University

  • @chamal75
    @chamal75 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have a few of these Soviet Era Physics books translated to English and Portuguese and they are my most treasured books.
    I love everything about them. The quality, the diagrams, fonts, looks and smell! Yes smell,😊!

  • @АзатШ-е5ъ
    @АзатШ-е5ъ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    When I was preparing for exams in Russian University I preffered Fikhtengol'ts books. I found his books more understandalble comparing to Ilyin, Poznyak. I'm very glad that soviet books were translated and shared accross the world.

  • @kubetail12
    @kubetail12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I took an undergraduate physics math methods class under a soviet trained astrophysicist. He knew his stuff. The course was a little basic just multivariate calculus, ODEs, linear algebra, some complex variables and their calculus, and some tensors crammed into one semester. I wished I had him for graduate physics math methods courses. The professor I took it with pretty much focused on PDEs and he never got Green Functions which is what I wanted to learn. That being said, the professor who taught my graduate math methods course was one of the best teachers I ever had for a physics course.

    • @pinklady7184
      @pinklady7184 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Aren't you so lucky? I envy you.

  • @drmiroslavyordanov7042
    @drmiroslavyordanov7042 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The publishing house MIR (Peace) was one of the most reputable and prestigious in USSR. It was a common practice for them to engaged just the scientists as translators and editors. The scale and the number of books issued were astonished thanks to this that it was a government's property, so the financial and other material resources were unlimited.

  • @lazyupload
    @lazyupload 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Being a long time graduate of Moscow engineering physics institute I'm very surprised so many students in different countries are familiar with the Russian maths&physics authors. If only I knew that so many people went through the same struggles I had I would've felt a bit better while studying those books through my sleepless nights before the exam

    • @cuervoblanco71
      @cuervoblanco71 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mephi rules! 95 grad

    • @ladoga1506
      @ladoga1506 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cuervoblanco71 aye brother - 2009 grad. Still remember Корпус "И" that looked like Fallout game hideout at the outskirts of Mephi territory.

  • @Gustavovisk21
    @Gustavovisk21 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I study civil engineering and one of the best books on structural analysis I've ever read is the one from Olga and Igor, both Russian authors. I don't know if it is from the soviet era, the book looks pretty modern, but Russian books on science and mathematics are incredible.

  • @ruslanagaev7265
    @ruslanagaev7265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    I graduated from BMSTU with a major in rocket and aero engine design(specialising in LRE) two years ago and I've got such a nostalgia wave hit. The illustrations of these book migrate from book to book and are still etched on the back of my brain because we used them to demonstrate our proofs during the exams. I didn't even notice that the book was in English because the style of the book(font, formulas, figures) is that familiar.

    • @MuxaL
      @MuxaL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Бомонка...

    • @gnus3830
      @gnus3830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Бомонка...

    • @clashsmash9763
      @clashsmash9763 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Бомонка...

    • @donchick
      @donchick 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Бомонка...

    • @NionXenion-gh7rf
      @NionXenion-gh7rf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bomonka...

  • @enhydramatic
    @enhydramatic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    Some of my friends at Moscow State happened to be lectured by B. M. Budak’s son, and some were taught by his grandson. Both of them are presently affiliated to Computational Mathematics and Cybernetics department (the place where they do computer science at Moscow State).

    • @pavelushakov5078
      @pavelushakov5078 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      A.B. Budak was my teacher on preparation courses in MSU 25 years ago. He explained school algebra on a totally different level.

  • @kevinmm20
    @kevinmm20 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Reminds me of the Landau-Lifschitz physics series. Very insightful books that have helped me a lot in my physics studies.

  • @ilyakuzmin9165
    @ilyakuzmin9165 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Well, you know, in Soviet Union there was even in school discipline called "engineering graphics" (I think they're trying to re-introduce it into schools in Russia now), and kids even without AutoCAD could draw easily all sort of blueprints by hand. The visualization and drawing graphs like was presented in the book was an easy exercise even for Soviet school students, and it really shouldn't cause any surprise that books like this could have multiple realistic visual representations, that appear quite descriptive, clean, neat and clear. If you look carefully at these graphs, you can see that even axis labels ("x", "y" and "z") are hand-drawn, not typed. Drawing clear captions (with characteristic semi-cursive, which is really recognizable) was part of the discipline.

    • @DartXL
      @DartXL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Согласен, но ведь и на Западе компьютеры были не всегда. А теперь прикладные задачи математики приходится решать в MATLAB, а прочностные в PATRAN, рисовать в том же AutoCAD и нет ни одного базового языка программирования, на кириллице основанного.

    • @Инженерголовногомозга
      @Инженерголовногомозга 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DartXLа нафига прогать на русском ?

    • @DartXL
      @DartXL 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Инженерголовногомозга уже конечно незачем. Но следствием стало, что программисты, выучившиеся у нас, торопились поработать на США и Европу, а не на страну где их учили, там же платили больше. Эдакая подготовка квалифицированных трудовых мигрантов... но за наш счет. Впрочем, США так собирали сливки со всего мира, продавая обратно готовый программный продукт.

    • @Инженерголовногомозга
      @Инженерголовногомозга 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DartXL я не об этом. Математика хороша тем, что условно нигериец и поймут друг друга без слов. С кодингом тоже самое

    • @dmitryunique6876
      @dmitryunique6876 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Черчения нету в школе уже?

  • @iliyaisd
    @iliyaisd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    I studied in Kharkiv national university in Ukraine, on the department of computer science. The first years we had a lot of math. We did not use this book specifically, but you going through the contents makes me recall that a subset and sequentiality of topics pretty much correspond to what we've been learning throughout 2nd and 3rd semesters. Of course our course was quite brief as we were not mathematicians.
    Idk why you're saying it's hardcore. I think it's just a bit different school and math language than you're used to. When I'm trying to read some math info from Western sources I'm getting quite lost, while this looks habitual and understandable.

    • @ВацлиПуцли
      @ВацлиПуцли 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Я выскажусь на сей счет - дело в том , что наука это социальный вид деятельности .
      Какое общество - социум , такая соответственно и наука .
      Если в обществе рыночная экономика , то мотивацией к деятельности является извлечение дохода .
      В советской системе речи о получении прибыли не стояло и тот кто создавал например учебник , был мотивирован престижем научной деятельности и стремился создать качественный научный труд .
      А если например математический учебник пишется автором ради заработка , то качество учебника не является единственной целью автора , а есть еще и другая - получение дохода .
      Когда Вы берете западные учебники для Вас может быть скрыта , непонятна вторая мотивация их создания , по этому в сравнении с советскими они производят иное впечатление .
      Объективно качество с точки зрения науки обычно хуже .
      Я покупал современные математические издания у нас в стране и в итоге понял , что зачастую это переписывание математических правил и упражнений ради денег .
      В отличии от советских изданий .
      Кстати нам Ютубе полно ученых болтунов пересказывающих одно и тоже ради заработка .

    • @casusbelli9225
      @casusbelli9225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      >Idk why you're saying it's hardcore. I think it's just a bit different school and math language than you're used to
      The following will be said about Calculus and Linear algebra books mostly.
      Western books are like glorified exercise books: a little bit of surface level theory, with not much deep understanding and vigor, and 100+ exercises at the end of the chapter.
      Russian/Soviet books, usually, aren't having exercises, but they are rich on the vigor of the material, with all the theorems and lemmas, and "exercises" are usually presented in the form of "we gave you example and needed material, now you could prove this theorem by yourself, it's easy", with exercises being delegated to specific books.
      That being said, OLD western books are similar in depth and vigor. E.g. Insel, Spenser or Kunze's books about Linear Algebra, Spivak's Calculus and similar.
      This is what is meant by "being hardcore". You don't just larn how to do tasks, but are expected to learn the intristics behind the concepts learnt in the book.

    • @nightyonetwothree
      @nightyonetwothree 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@casusbelli9225 in russian schools there are extra books used for exercises in addition to "theoretical" books. And for my higher education i dont remember if we used same extra materials for exercises or they were presented by teachers/lectors.

  • @СеменЛобов-ю7ф
    @СеменЛобов-ю7ф 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Considering exercises. Soviet system of teaching at college level on natural science consist of two parallel interweaved courses for any particular discipline. One is pure lectures (ended with exam) and other is seminars (also ended with exam). So each part has their own books on same topic. Lecture part is like "what is i.e. multiple integrals" and exam question would be like "explain what is triple integral" or "prove some theorem". And Seminar part is "how to use multiple integral" and that is where exercises are. Exam on seminar part would be "solve that". Sometimes seminar part exam is mandatory to give access to lecture part exam.

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Were I was taught, seminary part was 'pass/fail' and which you needed to pass to be admitted to final exam. And final contained both theoretical questions and a problem or two to solve

    • @СеменЛобов-ю7ф
      @СеменЛобов-ю7ф 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So it seems this book related to theoretical part and have few exercises if any.

    • @annasolovyeva1013
      @annasolovyeva1013 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@СеменЛобов-ю7ф yes, you need "zadachnik" book to give you tasks and practical examples of solving them

  • @rnayabed
    @rnayabed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Soviet books were very popular in India at a time, when Indian publishing was not very developed. I still have some old soviet engineering books that belonged to my father's uncle

  •  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Math textbooks by Mir were highly appreciated when I started my studies at the Technical University of Madrid in the late 80s. As a funny note, I was lectured there by one of the most prolific translators of Mir books into Spanish, Carlos Vega, who had returned to Spain after Franco's death.

  • @redoktopus3047
    @redoktopus3047 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    something very commendable abuout Soviet academia is that almost every academic you'll meet will have, at some point, had a textbook published.
    that's at least been the case for me. something which is the rare privledge of the famous few in the west who can afford to either take the time away from paperwork or who can get ghost writers was much more common for them (anecdotal evidence).
    when i was in cuba, the host was an professional engineer but during his time in higher academia he also had a textbook published.
    my guess is that the book would be made for the course you were teaching so students had reference material for when they were not in class. a physical equivalent to the "i uploaded the slides to the coruse website" we have today.

    • @annasolovyeva1013
      @annasolovyeva1013 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Often books are either based on lectures. Or used to supplement them and prepare for exams.

  • @МаксимБушуев-ы2ь
    @МаксимБушуев-ы2ь 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Recently graduated russian math bachelor here. I really like the tradition of hardcore but still great mathematics teaching. The book that helped me the most is Grigorii Fikhtengol'ts - The Fundamentals of Mathematical Analysis. Not even soviet but imperial stuff that was super fundamental and really helped me during the exams.

  • @kirap7729
    @kirap7729 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Soviet science books were not only great in the field of mathematics. My mom studied biology in West Germany in the 80s and always tells me she used to drive over to the GDR to get soviet-origin bio and biochem textbooks because they were so much better than the west german ones

    • @holdinmcgroin8639
      @holdinmcgroin8639 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She'd just drive over there?

    • @kirap7729
      @kirap7729 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@holdinmcgroin8639 she had relatives over there so she would combine visits with buying books. Stuff like that was fairly easy as the GDR needed outside money too.

  • @rinrin4711
    @rinrin4711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Lol, Budak was the one to pick me at calculus exam this summer and he was so nice, he gave me an excellent mark! In Russia(MSU) most exams are in an "oral" form, you randomly pick a paper with two questions (1 theorem with proof + 1 definition or theorem without proof) and then you have up to an hour to write everything down before you get picked by random professor who asks you additional questions and with whom you discuss whatever you've written.

    • @toraoeru8057
      @toraoeru8057 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you from cmc? It was his son or grandson

    • @rinrin4711
      @rinrin4711 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@toraoeru8057, yeah it probably was!

  • @eplaymaker
    @eplaymaker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a Moscow State University math grad and, simultaneously, a grad from UC Berkeley, I would say that Russian math education is much deeper and wider than the one in the US. The book that you are holding covers mandatory courses of 1-st and 2-nd year students in the Moscow State.

  • @jimmycen7498
    @jimmycen7498 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love that it spend chapters to talk about the application. My math classes in university always felt like I just study for the grade, rather than study for solving real engineering problems.

  • @ViewtifulSam
    @ViewtifulSam 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a beautiful edition! And your copy is in great condition, too. What a treasure.

  • @mevg6378
    @mevg6378 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Tbh, this is not a hardcore math. This is a part of a basic course for physicists we learnt in Moscow university physics faculty.

  • @cambolio2001
    @cambolio2001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    N. Piskunov wrote the best Calculus book ever, "Differential and Integral Calculus", printed by Mir in Spanish. I own a copy and it is my most precious math book. You can easily find the pdf version if you look for it.

  • @haggaisimon7748
    @haggaisimon7748 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    By the way, it's quite easy to translate a math book. When I was 18 and I didn't speak English, I translated the whole book of Nathan Jacobson, Theory and Representations of Jordan Algebras, from English to Russian. The vocabulary is quite limited for math books.

  • @suglobovkirill
    @suglobovkirill 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The first author of this book, B. M. Budak, is the father of my linear algebra professor A. B. Budak at Lomonosov Moscow State University, in the Faculty of Computational Mathematics and Cybernetics.
    He taught me a course 4 years ago, but we still maintain a good relations. He is a kind and responsive person. Besides linear algebra, he teaches several mathematical courses.
    A. B. Budak spoke highly of his father, and now his son is carrying on his legacy. It's great to see that he continues to teach and inspire interest in mathematics like his father.

  • @siddhanthbhattacharyya4206
    @siddhanthbhattacharyya4206 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I have a similar russian (soviet maybe?) book about problems in mathematics that i purchased as a high schooler back in india, when i took a look at some of the problems in it after the video, i felt kinda proud that i could solve them pretty well now that I'm an engineering undergrad, especially considering how that book gave me a hard time back then lol

  • @nazmul_khan_
    @nazmul_khan_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Gantmacher’s Matrices, Kolmogorov and Fomin’s book on Functional Analysis and Elsgolt’s Differential Equations books are my favorite introductory books ❤

    • @emilywatt5126
      @emilywatt5126 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Это все было отлично 30 лет назад. Сейчас уже устарело во многом. Поэтому все ведущие университеты меняют основные курсы регулярно. Так же как меняли свои издания эти авторы, когда были живы, а потом их ученики, в основном до развала совка. После этого все, научные школы быстро кончились.

    • @nazmul_khan_
      @nazmul_khan_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's why I said introductory@@emilywatt5126

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Being Danish I've definitely noticed that there is such a thing as dialect in science and math, the notation, preferred methods and what's considered important varies from country to country.

  • @dux2372
    @dux2372 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Russian Dmitry Mendeleev’s Periodic Table of chemical elements is the basis of the most fields of science:
    Modern chemistry, biochemistry, biophysics, biology, chemical physics, astrobiology, physical chemistry, medicine, pharmaceutical, etc.

  • @joshuamendez425
    @joshuamendez425 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The prof who teaches system dynamics at my Uni is a Russian who grew up in the Soviet Union & he's soo good at math. I have to take vibrations with him next semester 😢

  • @santos-pereira
    @santos-pereira 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Really enjoy MIR books. I learned calculus by myself (in high school) using Demidovich's book and Piskounov later. Then, I entered college and met Landau's elementary physics collection. My way of thinking as a physicist was heavily influenced by soviet scientists and mathematicians. By the way, I am from Brazil, and I came across those books at a flea market. I bought them in 2000 for about 50 cents of a dollar a piece. Have those books on my shelf to this day.

  • @СергейБезин-к1х
    @СергейБезин-к1х 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I also like some PROGRESS PUBLISHERS books (literature). Selected stories of Vladimir Korolenko (Moscow, 1978) is my favorite one. What combinations of English words! What colors! Real masterpiece..Could be compared with 'The old man and the sea', but different one. The reading is like listening to a beautiful melody.

  • @agarwalamit081
    @agarwalamit081 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I remember solving problems from a few Russian books on Mathematics and Physics by Mir Publishers and I must say that they contained some of the most challenging problems. Physics by Irodov is still, by far, the most popular book by Mir in India

  • @naseernasrat1997
    @naseernasrat1997 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember coming across a physics textbook that was published in the USSR. It may have been the same publisher. The book was in English. I found it in a library, but i can't remember which library.
    The first sentence blew me away. Russians and Easterners are big on definitions. Westerners are not. The definition of physics was written as, I'm not remembering it exactly;
    " Physics is a branch of the natural sciences that studies the fundamental constitution of the universe". Sounds pretty cool to a 15 year old.
    The explanations were very clear and easy to understand.

  • @kerianhuertas1586
    @kerianhuertas1586 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    When I was in second year of licence, I got my hands on the Marc Vygodsky's mathematical memory aid. Had to import it from a lost librairy in Italy, still wondering why it was there as it was written in french. Thank to this book I really felt I understood what I was doing, not just : learn formula, see exam, repeat formula, fail finals anyway

    • @alexleibovici4834
      @alexleibovici4834 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I have it too - "Aide-mémoire de mathématiques supérieurs".
      In Switzerland.
      I also had the Russian original.

    • @ВацлиПуцли
      @ВацлиПуцли 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      У меня есть справочник по * Элементарной математике * Выгодского 70 - х годов .
      Когда мне плохо , грустно или требуется душевное успокоение , я его читаю или вспоминаю то , что там написано .

  • @MaximQuantum
    @MaximQuantum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've been struggling with staying motivated at college, but your videos give me (amongst many other things) inspiration to study with your enthusiasm towards math!

  • @ДанилАгафонов-щ5г
    @ДанилАгафонов-щ5г 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Не знаю насчет именно этого, но у меня в программе был Фихтенгольц.
    Прямо смотрю видео и вижу знакомые вещи, аж слезы на глазах наворачиваются

  • @fixpontt
    @fixpontt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i was a math student in Hungary and we also studied calculus from a soviet books i remember the "Bible" was Boris Pavlovich Demidovich: Problems in mathematical analysis, it is also an infinitely long book full of calculus problems, interestingly the math field called "calculus" in the west is called "analysis" here sometimes with adjectives, real, complex etc.

  • @bobkelly3162
    @bobkelly3162 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    No wonder these guys were first into space. Hardcore!

  • @mohabatkhanmalak1161
    @mohabatkhanmalak1161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The name signed 'Bhatia' on the book is an Indian name, and would be someone who studied in the USSR back then. Many students from India opted to go to the Soviet Union for degrees in science, even I was thinking of doing my mechanical engineering bechelors degree there.

    • @sergeytrunov7166
      @sergeytrunov7166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We actually have a lot of Indians studying at our universities - I see this every day. I have always wondered why studying in Russia is so popular?

    • @misc2850
      @misc2850 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Звучит как "Батя" - "отец"

    • @andreas_schlegel
      @andreas_schlegel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, it's because russia has a high education standard in science, mathematics and engineering.
      In Germany we also use Soviet/ Russian books in our university education.
      When I studied electrical engineering/ IT in 2014, we had Bronstein/ Semendjajews handbook of mathematics. @@sergeytrunov7166

  • @samurnin
    @samurnin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This book we used at my institute (we mostly named our universities as institutes those days) during my degree to became an engineer for the first courses on 1-2 year.

  • @АлександрАлексеев-ю7ф
    @АлександрАлексеев-ю7ф 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I can recommend Vinberg's book on Algebra, Zorich's book on mathematical analysis. Excellent guides for starting to study higher mathematics.

    • @daniillebedev4035
      @daniillebedev4035 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For me, Zorich is hard, i learn mathematical analisys on Dmitriy Pismenniy. Study with Zorich's is my dream.
      Besides, i read a Tolstov "Курс Математического Анализа" (1957).

  • @philippemts88
    @philippemts88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I used some of Mir Publisher books for practicing for harder exams.
    Their problems are pretty hardcore if compared to standard textbooks.

  • @karinasulsul
    @karinasulsul 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    As a russian I would recommend P S Aleksandrov’s book for algebra and analytic geometry, but i think there is no translation into english. This book was written in the 20th century, my book at least was in 1968… maybe it has older versions too.

    • @gamesandthoughts2388
      @gamesandthoughts2388 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Nothing is better than Ilyin V.A, Poznyak E.G. for analytic geometry, maybe even calculus

    • @kellychuba
      @kellychuba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As a Russian your first words are 'Our educational system has collapsed and we study Stalin now'

    • @V1er1f1ed
      @V1er1f1ed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      You study math and not woke culture and I know the education system in CIS is better than the most countries.

    • @utility00
      @utility00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@V1er1f1ed It surely is better than American, elite schools are merit based, and nobody is studying woke cr*p or obsessing over endless spectrum of genders or diversity. But lately they've started to teach other type of cr*ap about the "Great leader" and "Glorious Motherland", so it's getting worse there too.

    • @thedude5830
      @thedude5830 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      база епта

  • @enhydramatic
    @enhydramatic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    It’s incredible how you can immediately tell that this is a Soviet book, despite it being written in English. It’s the typeface and the drawings, which were indeed made by hand and then transferred to be printed. At least the font used for these drawings is strictly standardized (GOST 2.304), and probably the same is true for line widths and hatching, all of this giving these drawings this distinctive look.
    For cheaper and not-so-fundamental books, it was also common to see complex formulas - or even single letters - not typeset but hand-drawn and transferred in a similar fashion, or, in extreme cases, written in by hand into every copy.

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I did all that for my PhD (ну, для кандидатской) в 1990-м. Last year when computer printouts were still not acceptable for thesis submission. Had to be typed, figures draw, formulas written in by hand.

  • @InssiAjaton
    @InssiAjaton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Once upon a time, i.e in my college years, I liked to browse all kinds of books at book stores. I stumbled into one Russian text book about integrals. Two thirds seemed to be text, but the last 1/3 was a collection of solved integrals. I could not make heads or tails of the text portion, but I got excited about near 3000 solved integrals tabulated. I bought the book and still have it somewhere. I had learnt the Greek alphabets in high school physics. The Russian ones are a bit extended from the Greek ones, so I thought I should be able to work my way with a dictionary, which I also bought. Well, you would think so, but that is until you realize there is something called grammar. The one thing that I was lucky about my (failed) attempt to learn Russian was that I could read the Russian map and the street signs when I was once in Moscow. A friend of mine described his fate on a similar trip - he had got a city map with latin (western) texts, but it turned useless, as the street signs everywhere were just Cyrillic. But there is big leap from street signs to reading a math text book.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gradshteyn and Ryzhik?

    • @vaevictis2789
      @vaevictis2789 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Always was fascinated by how westerners are intimidated with cyrillic. Its an alphabet that shares like 50% of letters with latin and can be learned in a few hours. I was able to learne greek alphabet in about hour or two somehow, im absolutely sure learning russian one cant be much harder

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vaevictis2789 I took Russian in college and forgot it all except for the alphabet. It's not intimidation, but absolute lack of need

    • @InssiAjaton
      @InssiAjaton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vaevictis2789 In my estimate, similarities are over 60%. However, a confusion also is evident for me. The “B” actually reads “v”. There are two separate “e”, one pronounced about “je” and the other ( “ e avarotnoje” ) more like the latin ”e”. Two versions of our “i” as well. And most problematic, the half a dozen different “s” characters. I can manage with a dictionary, but it is troubling slow.

  • @daniilivanov8460
    @daniilivanov8460 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This course was adapted for Physics students who are interested in applications, but not in hardcore fundamentals. This is why the manifolds or Lebesgue integrals are barely introduced there, but a lot of time devoted to the double and triple integrals, tensors and "field theory". This is what was critically needed for theoretical and applied physics at that times

  • @mauz791
    @mauz791 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Soviets bag incredible STEM skills, especially chemistry. Dubna is a cool place 👍

  • @BangkokZed
    @BangkokZed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Although I have a genuine appreciation for Soviet science, the textbooks in some cases were very hardcore. For instance, when I initially studied gyroscope theory in Russian, it began with deriving the gyroscope equations from Newton's laws of motion. I had difficulties in understanding the explanation and practical use of it, so I visited the library and borrowed a US textbook translated to Russian (I think it was a UC Berkeley book) to get better understanding of gyroscopes. To my surprise, the authors explained gyroscopes by illustrating the motion and forces acting on a rotating bicycle wheel. This explanation clicked for me, and I was impressed by its simplicity, not going through Newton and Euler.

  • @a.d.2766
    @a.d.2766 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There is a legendary book of Scanavi, which is the collection of problems on pre-university math (algebra, fundamentals of calculus and geometry). If you manage to solve at least 50 percent of given problems, you can easily beat any math problem offered in entrance exams😂😂

  • @krwada
    @krwada 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A great book. This is definitely an advanced engineering mathematics book. I used a similar book in my advanced studies in engineering.

  • @pinedelgado4743
    @pinedelgado4743 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    This particular book would make a great Dover reprint if it hasn't been done yet.

  • @t9t967
    @t9t967 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your video is a gem. I have a pile of, like, 150-200 books of Moscou/Mir/Moscow editions book 😮 here downstais. I have them in french. I started "collecting" them without being aware that they are any more "valuable" than the paper they re printed on. The explanations are very good and I certainly didn’t think at any point in my whole life I would read about it on the intranets. On youtube even less 👍👌

  • @МаксВеличко-з1к
    @МаксВеличко-з1к 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I currently study in Moscow State University at department of geology, and our department shares the building with department of mechanics and mathematics, where the authors of this book worked. There's a joke that guys who study math there are a little quirky in their head, due to the amount of complicated stuff that they have to study. The department is really hard and sadly has much more cases of suicides due to people not being able to keep up, but it pops out qualified students. So happily or sadly, the way of teaching there doesn't really change - hard classes filtering out the strongest and most talented.

  • @korolev23
    @korolev23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm case you're interested, "Mezhdunarodnaya kinga" at 2:20 means "international book".

  • @kevinreese5656
    @kevinreese5656 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    In case anyone is interested, the abbreviation V/O on the back of the jacket stands for the the Soviet "External-trade Association"(Внешнеторговое объединение/ Vneshnetorgovoe ob"edinenie) whose name was "International Book" (Международная книга/ Mezhdunarodnaya kniga).

    • @noizekiller
      @noizekiller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And "mir" means "world".

    • @alextalker5979
      @alextalker5979 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@noizekiller I'm gonna add that while the word мир(mir) can imply the world/universe/space/Earth depending on how broadly sentence author wants to use it for, it also homonymous with the idea of peace(i.e. война и мир = war and peace, by Tolstoy), which, taken that its a publishers name, one can't deny might be chosen intentionally =) Besides being simple to pronounce, of course.

  • @alexandrsavochkin9442
    @alexandrsavochkin9442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I used this book for studying in Russia in the late '90s to early '00s. We had two main books for the third semester of calculus (which I believe is called Calculus-III in the US and other countries): the Iliyin & Poszdnyak book and this one. From what I remember, Iliyin & Poszdnyak was even more hardcore, while this one aimed to provide a bit more "intuition" behind the concepts, not just rigorous derivation. I still recall a picture of a turbine "rotating" by a vector field in Budak & Fomin's book, explaining the rotor concept. It is still hardcore, though. Both books had very few or no exercises; there were other books for that.

    • @GabrielsLogic
      @GabrielsLogic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow! Fascinating

  • @charlesspringer4709
    @charlesspringer4709 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In the 1980's there was a book store in Palo Alto or Menlo Park with lots of these books in English. Some were for the final year of high school and are incredibly more difficult and sophisticated than in the US. I have a half a dozen, a few of which are just problem books of integrals and DEQ.

  • @vincentgiordano2130
    @vincentgiordano2130 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's something so beautiful and elegant about old mathematics and physics books. The hardcover binding, the serif typeface, the crisp feel of the pages. Combine that with the most elegant universal language and it just makes for a true gem.

  • @johnflorio3576
    @johnflorio3576 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When I was a physics undergraduate we had to show proficiency in either German or Russian. I chose Russian and I’m glad I did.

  • @tiberium87
    @tiberium87 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate you man. I appreciate what you do, and the things you care about.

  • @axmy1776
    @axmy1776 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love your content

  • @k44galaxy
    @k44galaxy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lots of books were published on math, physics, informatics. In 90s we read it at home and I also visited libraries in our town to find something new. Now my kids use Elementary math by Vygodsky published in USSR. I still keep several boxes of Soviet books.
    We also studied English, French, Latin from just books. I also had Japan and Chinese, but it was hard to learn without a teacher.
    Soviet books were made for every case. You literally could learn anything

  • @reganhoward7883
    @reganhoward7883 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The material on integrals in this book is covered (at least in the late ‘60s) by 2nd year undergraduate studies in the US. I saw all this as a physics major.

  • @izoiva
    @izoiva 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You're being asking about drawings, its definitely hand drawing. Soviet engineering and technical schools are really appreciated that. Even though this day students in technical universities receiving basic course on hand drawing.

    • @collineverdi3017
      @collineverdi3017 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "definitely hand drawing" ... at least because in the 70's were wasn't much computer drawing! I was a PhD student (in Italy) , and I drew by hand the plots I published in my first papers.

  • @lowsistem
    @lowsistem 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    MIR books are amazing. Not only in mathematics. I have one in spanish about metals and thermal treatments of these (not sure if I'm translating this term properly). For how small the book actually is, the fact it contained almost all the info I needed for a course in materials still baffles me.
    I thing I studied one authored by Piskunov, if I remember correctly, for calc II. I love the straightforwardness of the MIR books.

  • @ingatamayo199
    @ingatamayo199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    10:33 I believe this was 3rd semester of technical college when integration was taught in USSR. At least that is when I took it. This was a mandatory class too.

  • @adautomancini6095
    @adautomancini6095 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The books of MIR are amazing. A huge contribution on science teatching to the world

  • @stevenzheng5459
    @stevenzheng5459 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like how they call the Divergence theorem "Ostrogradsky's theorem" instead of "Gauss' theorem"!

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Actually, when I was taught back in USSR in the 80-s, I was taught it as "theorem of Gauss-Ostragradsky"

  • @paulopanarella1839
    @paulopanarella1839 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Math Sorcerer, thank you for sharing with us this fantastic soviet era math book. Your work is amazing! I'm in love with you!

  • @PeterZaitcev
    @PeterZaitcev 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A few notes on the terms used in this book those were not translated properly or not at all.
    * Mir ("Мир") is a Russian word for both world and peace.
    * Mezhdunarodnaya (ending may vary) is a Russian word for International (adj.)
    * Can.Sc. (math) and D.Sc. (math) are Soviet and Russian degrees in science, 3rd and 2nd from the highest. When you complete your University studying, you may be offered to continue your education & scientific researchers on the university basis, becoming so-called Aspirant. Those who successfully defend their Thesis become Candidates of Sciences (Candidate of Physics and Maths Sciences, Candidate of Tech Science, etc), which is an equivalent of PhD grade. Ones who are very successful may attempt to write their Doctor Thesis and then defend it, acquiring second but highest possible rank. Works same as for Candidates, but cooler. And, finally, scientific superstars are invited to the Academy of Sciences of Soviet Union (Russian Federation), gaining a lifetime grade of Academic. This is THE Soviet/Russian (inter)national academy, which is the highest institute in the scientific & educational system, having right & power to disobey the highest level directives (Academic Sakharov, author of the thermonuclear bomb, was publicly banned in late 80s, but his academic status was never retired)
    * The first page in Russian is actually an original title page, which is required by Russian standards (always have both original & localized title pages)
    P.S.
    BTW, this is a very simple book, most of the other Russian university books are WAY worse-written and harder to understand.
    P.P.S.
    Calculus is a mandatory discipline for any technical university education, including multidimensional integrals. Usually it's a Calculus 2 class (2nd semester of the 1st year)

  • @JAsperEudaimonia
    @JAsperEudaimonia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mir and Progress publishers produced some quality books. The quality of the paper and the binding was great. I still have some philosophy books which are still intact after so many years after publication.

  • @wolfhh4926
    @wolfhh4926 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have fond memories of using Landau-Lifschitz volumes 5, 8, and 9 as a grad student (in the US in 2010s.)
    I bought the books from Nepal I believe. Paid around $15 plus $50 shipping, much cheaper than buying them locally.
    I had a friend who was assigned their volume 1 in her second year of undergrad physics...she dropped the class and the major.