What TRAUMA! We all need friends like Geese and Eris 💛 - Mushoku Tensei S1 Episode 17 Reaction

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  • @ChiefBones
    @ChiefBones ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Some notes:
    1) Paul did steal the horse. The Guild gives S rank folk free use of guild property for the completion of jobs. He took a job to get the horse then dipped out, potentially to lose his license. He travelled nonstop with Norn thinking he’d get there faster than in a carriage, then Norn got sick and they ended up taking just as long as a carriage ride.
    2) Paul and Norn were transported to an area just outside his sword school, where he did his thing with Lilia years ago. He initially thought the mana disaster was his ex schoolmates taking him for revenge for what he did with Lilia years ago.
    3) Paul kept emergency funds in the bottom of his scabbard. He was never really in fiscal trouble while traveling back to Fittoa and Buena Village.
    4) Geese is a demon, just not the way you think of it. Everyone from that continent is called ‘mazoku’, which literally means magic race, from the magic continent. Technically, we’re Geese from Millis or Central continents, he’d just be a beast person. Monkey.
    5) The making up between Rudy and Paul and the rest of Dead End, actually took several days in the novel, as Paul was still actively working on the rescue operations.
    6) Paul and the rescue party were financed secretly by Zenith’s family, who hate Paul, but wanted to rescue Zenith. Depending on how they animate the story, they could be really important or just kinda glossed over.
    7) The Rescue Party had to behave like bandits, because despite the whole world basically acknowledging the disaster at this point, some Millis nobles refused to give up their slaves, and so Paul and co ended up with a lot of powerful Millisian enemies.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow! This is a lot of great context! Me and Madison just geeked for 10 minutes about the potential varieties of beast people Thank you so much!

    • @SatsJava
      @SatsJava ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All details he shared are from light novel

    • @JoseLopez-gi9sf
      @JoseLopez-gi9sf ปีที่แล้ว

      At this point some things where already looked over. When Rudy first seen Geese he thought he was a monkey or gorilla type beast but spoke. And he looked closer and it was human. But I believe they have to make characters better looking to keep people watching. They probably will skip more im the future because this store tends to be more about Rudy without all his inner monologues. Every time Rudy lets his guard down and loses it breaks him mentally. It brings back emotion of the past life and almost makes him want to stop doing anything and become a shut in agian. There was supposed to be more ugly crying backin the demon continent.
      Rudy does see this all as a game because he remembers things from his old life that makes him choose options where he believes the outcomes will end up like in a video game. Which is wrong and why he loses. When he takes a hit he forgets that this isn't a game. And relaxes way to much. Even when he lost his eye to gain the other made him suffer a lot. Huge headaches for days and even when he could control it it still hurt his head to use it.
      It never really explains but to me ut always seems like Rudy is a child inside and out with only dream like memories of his past life. And it takes forever to grow from those memories. Because he develops magic tactics from things he remembers from school. But only when he remembers them. He also never fully understoods healing magic and is forced to use chants to use healing magic. Probably because he can't understand the feeling of healing magic the way others do. As opposed to any other magic he can understand because he understands the feeling of it and adds his own knowledge to the magic to make it work.

    • @ChiefBones
      @ChiefBones ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SatsJava True. Didn’t bother mentioning it because I have done in previous videos.

    • @Hawkcam1996
      @Hawkcam1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know, it’s kinda disappointing that they changed how Rudy’s party made it from the Millis Continent to the Central Continent. By changing it, they cut out Rudy meeting a member of Zenith’s family for the first time.

  • @InstanRamen
    @InstanRamen ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Its fine if you guys want to watch all of the eps first before the OVA

  • @randomuniquehandle
    @randomuniquehandle ปีที่แล้ว +7

    during the start of the episode Paul reaches an area... this area that he is overlooking is just a large dirt patch of land. That's their old village... nothing left but dirt.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! It was shocking to see how desolate the area was.

  • @DavidRomigJr
    @DavidRomigJr ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love this episode. When you realize at the end of the episode that Geese got captured in the forrest on purpose looking for Paul’s family, recognized Rudeus, said nothing, traveled with him, and then told him to go to the guild when he parted, then he found Paul and told him to go to the guild as well (plus the whole conversation when he saw Paul was devastated) so that Rudy and Paul would reunited. And that he’s now headed to another place no one has checked. Geese is the MVP.
    Special kudos to the bartender for noticing Rudy was never looking up and suggesting he look at Paul while talking.

  • @MajorSmurf
    @MajorSmurf ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For me personally the way the author created this is quite true to a lot of family drama where we can get rather heated and not see things clearly due to high emotions. I think we all end up having a stupid fight over something with a loved one at some point but what I love is the make up between Paul and Rudy. Paul after talking with Geese sees his faults and tries to become a better man. Paul has clearly been through the ringer. He's found no evidence for any of his other family in over a year and a half. He's been running himself into the ground with trying to get people back together after the disaster and ended up drinking for some tiny bit of relief. Now despite this I will say a nice detail you might notice is Paul being a decent dad to Norn. He himself is rather ragged and downbeat but Norn is always shown being happy and wearing clear clothes with neat combed hair. He always gave her a smile and took care of her. It might be she was the only reason he didn't descend into full despair and do something stupid. He's trying his best and while he has a way to go. He's getting there.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely! We loved his attention to Norn even as he was getting more and more ragged.

  • @johncenakiddo
    @johncenakiddo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    yo your channel is underrated, loved your reactions.... i hope your channel can grow bigger in the future

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! We're excited to pick up a new show after we catch up on Mushoku Tensei!

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rujierd wouldn't get that upset over a father/son fight. He has his own history with that and knows how hard Paul has it and what needs to be done.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100% when he says, "the grievances only matter while he's alive," we went "oof. Feels."

  • @eAshbaPhalanx
    @eAshbaPhalanx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    11:18 this is not an spoiler, it wasnt shown on the anime, but yeah, paul and his party have found many dead bodies of people he knew

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that's a powerful and painful context

  • @josephgatts1679
    @josephgatts1679 ปีที่แล้ว

    28:20 Bikini Background character's sister was r[redacted] before they met Paul. Bikini's sister wears a lot of clothes because traumatized by male gaze, Bikini girl wears bikini to divert attention away from sister. Paul never diddled either because he was too busy A) being a dad B) drinking, and C) searching for MIA.

  • @InstanRamen
    @InstanRamen ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Paul seeing Rudeus as an adult

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean?

    • @InstanRamen
      @InstanRamen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AnimeDateNight yeah technically Rudeus was his son and he was younger than paul treat Rudy like an adult, because Paul relieze Rudy is a mature mind if you relieze on eps 3 when Rudy punch a bullying kid, and he said he almost relief that rudy doing a kid thing

    • @azumag4432
      @azumag4432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@InstanRamen Yeah...that's why I "hate" the most from any reaction to Mushoku Tensei...
      The way Paul is "treated"...

    • @InstanRamen
      @InstanRamen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azumag4432 yeah i think I cannot blame them, because this anime not always give us complete information like Paul Prespective not like the light novel did because they can't just put all of the detail and a information because they not have time to explain more detail they just mention slightly. And we need to focused and try to understand every information they give. As we know Mushoku tensei has a bunch of information. Even they can't tell us the detail Of the Magic, Mana, and Sword Style thing so we need to understand it by ourself like an Easter egg. Even after I'm rewatching so many times I'm still found a new detail

    • @azumag4432
      @azumag4432 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InstanRamen "Even after I'm rewatching so many times I'm still found a new detail" same.
      "-I cannot blame them" - I just can't.

  • @Hawkcam1996
    @Hawkcam1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you look at it from both sides, you can see that neither one of them was wrong, and neither one of them was right. That’s what I love so much about this argument between Rudy and Paul. It’s so emotional and you can see both sides of the argument, so neither one of them is really “the bad guy” in it.

  • @Hawkcam1996
    @Hawkcam1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    26:16 Paul doesn’t know Sauros was executed, so he thinks he’s missing. That’s why he told Rudy Sauros is still missing.

  • @paulwin9036
    @paulwin9036 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some depressing facts about Paul's quest to find the Fittoans
    1. The rescue squad frequently broke out fittoan refugees and makes many political enemies. They got into many ambuses and assassinations, resulting in the deaths of many volunteers. The families of said volunteers would constantly blame Paul's methods and those weighed on him a lot.
    2. From what I remember, by stealing the adventurer's horse, Paul's license is void.
    3. After nearly two years of searching with not sight of his family, Paul begins to doubt himself and regrets making the search squad at all, believing he would have found his family had he ignored the other Fittoans.
    4. Vierra and Shierra are twins Paul rescued. The cloaked one had sever sexual trauma and has a hard time with male attention. Her sister, therefore wears bikini armour to attract their gazes to her, rather than her sister. + Lore wise, armour isn't often used since the advancement of healing magic garuntees survival, provided you weren't cut in half.

  • @Hawkcam1996
    @Hawkcam1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    20:58 Yes. He became a shut in because of the bullying

  • @Finderskeeper98763
    @Finderskeeper98763 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Paul, know this, you sent rudeus away to Roa for five years forbidding him from visiting and/or writing back to you. He was also in the epicenter, so he wouldn't have known how big the explosion was. And lastly he was teleported on the opposite side of the world with no means to gather the information.

  • @ederdanielpf
    @ederdanielpf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is a reason for Vierra wear this clothes, the other girl Shierra is her sister, when Shierra was young she was absuded and developed phobia against man, when an men come closer to her, or when an men look at her, she has a panic attack and become totally helpless, she can't even use her magic, this is why Vierra wear this kind of clother, for the men just look at her and ignore Shierra.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, we learned about Shierra's backstory. It certainly gave us a new perspective on Vierra and Paul's party. Than you so much for the context!

  • @Hawkcam1996
    @Hawkcam1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    26:28 It’s not like that. It wasn’t a coup or anything like that. The Asura Kingdom used Sauros as a scapegoat for the disaster. They wanted to punish *someone* for what happened, so they just punished the guy that was in charge of the region it happened at, which was Sauros.

  • @JoseLopez-gi9sf
    @JoseLopez-gi9sf ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of people that ended up in the demon continent and survived just end up living there the rest of their lives because it is too dangerous to leave town and with no money or knowledge you can't risk your life for an uncertain outcome. I don't remember where it is mentions but there was a young girl that was scaried to death but was able to be adopted by a family there at the port and she just works as their store cook and even adds her own knowledge to make food tasty for the people in the demon continent. She couldn't understand thr language and just ends up loving her new family. But that could have been worse. She isn't important to the story but they may never show the demon continent again.

  • @timkalier
    @timkalier ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting. Ruijerd killed a man for kicking a child before, now he is punching Eris to stop her. Character development?

    • @SatsJava
      @SatsJava ปีที่แล้ว

      You should read Mushoku Tensei light novel
      To know the details what happened

  • @ToxTalk
    @ToxTalk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A touching episode, can't wait for the next video.
    Before that, I hope you still remember the special abilities of the migurds mentioned in episode 9.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you ToxTalk! If I'm remembering correctly, at least some Migurds can communicate telepathically. I'm not sure if they are naturally attuned to magic or if Roxy is special.

  • @ChiefBones
    @ChiefBones ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The OVA isn’t a post season thing. It happens concurrently to Rudy’s fight with Paul.

  • @kallistikaleid
    @kallistikaleid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found that the channels that watched the OVA in chronological order felt the best, but, I can understand watching them in release order.
    However, should ya'll watch Steins;Gate, you MUST go the β route! One word.....immersion.

  • @boboz014
    @boboz014 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chronologically, the OVA's story happens between EP16 and 17, but it is an OVA as the true main character for the episode is a new character. So it's actually better to watch it after season 1.

  • @l30nard03
    @l30nard03 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this episode!

  • @Hawkcam1996
    @Hawkcam1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:48 Let’s just say she was too insistent on punishing Paul and leave it at that

  • @echeland649
    @echeland649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rujierd es un adulto de mas de 400 ños, el no podria reaccionar como Eris en un momento tan critico como ese... me gusto mucho sus reacciones, buen video amigos...

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว

      ¡Muchas gracias por mirando a nos reacciones!

  • @xavierchen7054
    @xavierchen7054 ปีที่แล้ว

    Firstly, good luck to your battle against copyright! There are other channels who struggle even when they followed the rules set by TH-cam and I personally like how you guys have set it up. To answer your question, Paul does get attacked when they do not get to people in time, by members of his rescue squad. Furthermore, that nightmare of Rudeaus happens everyday but he also sees Zenith, Lithia, and Aisha in similar states hence his drinking problem. Also, you are the only other channel I know that is suspicious of Geese (who is a Monkey Demon btw) despite him one of the MVPs this episode.
    If you're up for recommendations, I would add the Berserk (1997) and Cowboy Bebop animes, if you haven't seen them yet since you seem to be anime onlys.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "I personally like how you guys have set it up"
      Thank you! 😊
      "that nightmare of Rudeaus happens everyday but he also sees Zenith, Lithia, and Aisha in similar states hence his drinking problem."
      holy shit!!!
      "Also, you are the only other channel I know that is suspicious of Geese (who is a Monkey Demon btw) despite him one of the MVPs this episode."
      😳 not sure if that's good or bad lmao

    • @xavierchen7054
      @xavierchen7054 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AnimeDateNight I wouldn't worry, I was just surprised that's all. Many of the anime I've watched with his trope happened to be good guys. It's also entertaining that you came up with theories different to other people.

  • @ericford911
    @ericford911 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, we all need friends like Geese….👀

    • @Wryvan
      @Wryvan ปีที่แล้ว

      Traitor.

  • @phantombloodsoul
    @phantombloodsoul ปีที่แล้ว

    the manga had more inpact when they where explanming how paul fucked up because he was fighting strong monsters

  • @kallistikaleid
    @kallistikaleid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ya know, if the OVS was made right, it would have been 1000% necessary to watch before this episode. There would have been vital details needed to progress the story, and something in this episode would have been different. Le sigh. No idea why they changed what they did. Beyond irritating, but, what they put out was great anyway. Looking forward to the rest of the season. It is goood.

  • @vzgamer5738
    @vzgamer5738 ปีที่แล้ว

    RUdy is not 10, he is 44. He is not a child

  • @Bogluk2
    @Bogluk2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Вы классные, мне нравятся ваши рассуждения! Дальше круче))

  • @ChimkenRiceNuggy
    @ChimkenRiceNuggy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this episode.

  • @joerussell1732
    @joerussell1732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's only a single OVA, and it's pretty much just a regular episode..
    The reason everyone recommends watching it after 16 (or 17) is because the chapter in the Light Novel that the OVA episode covers takes place between between those respective chapters.. because some of the information is necessary going into what would be episode 18..
    It was released as an OVA because it is not from Rudeus' point of view.. it's basically
    "while Rudy was meeting with Paul, this other thing was happening over here"
    So watching it at the end is okay, but by doing so you kind of miss out on some character growth that impacts the last 5 episodes.

    • @AnimeDateNight
      @AnimeDateNight  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh! Very worth knowing!! Hmmmm, we'll discuss that.

  • @Xantheus07
    @Xantheus07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow my comment got delete for some reason. Ok long story short Geese is a demon his claws are black, Ruijerd was a father so he knows how it goes, Vierra dresses the she does to protect her sister from male gaze. When they were teleported bad men caught them and did well you know what they did. Once Paul rescued them Vierra bounced back but Shierra has trauma she has panic attacks when men look at her hence why Vierra dresses the way she does so men look at her.

  • @lonaroy208
    @lonaroy208 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please watch the OVA after episode 17 and before episode 18 . That's mean, please watch the OVA next. 🙏🙏🙏