@@marky4627just did that quest yesterday and learned azariq was a traitor when he was in that giant ruin machine lol I was kinda expecting him to be a traitor but Nahida just confirmed it xD
I mean, if you want to play dendro teams it's night and day with and without Nahida. Honestly it's hard not to praise her with how much she brings to those teams.
@@mangshu21 i mean, if your dendro mc is running 130-150% ER, or the seed gets burned it will suck. But you can run them at 230% as solo dendro, don't bother on good artifacts, and as long as the enemies are inside your Q you are fine. Unless your account and characters aren't well optimized for dendro team or you don't know what you are doing; that's the only way to think dendro MC are bad as character. Their caveats are very easy to come by and allow you to play hyperbloom, bloom nilou, burgeon, quicken teams
If you're not sure whether you should pull for her; do a coin toss. If you hate the result, then you just found your answer. Edit: I don't take credit for the advice. I don't remember where, but I also learned it somewhere on the internet.
highkey good advice for many people who don't listen to their gut about pulling for a character. and even if you don't want them now, there's always chances to get them in the future so you're never really missing out anyways.
when you see a group of enemies with hydro on them in open world and taking 2 pictures with sac frags and the entire group is gone. One of the most satisfying things in this game
You're right about that I don't need Nahida to clear the abyss but I had to pull her just to replace Dendro Traveller. I need my Traveller to be free from Dendro and having Nahida as a replacement, I can keep my hyperbloom team. However other Dendro characters doesn't fit that role the way I hoped for. They are either less potent or not the way I used them.
the comment at 23:06 is one of the main reasons why I appreciate Zajef77, he straight up tells you the ideal thing to do and follows up with "have fun", like... just test things yourself, do things on your own and figure what suits you better, have fun with what you have and whichever way you want to. thanks, Zajeff, I will have fun
I think what changed since nahida release until now is that she is no longer the only 5 star limited dendro unite other than that she is still as broken as she was . Is she necessary ? No she isn’t . Is she the best at what she does ? Yep she is .
@@restart6358 Of course she is irreplaceable, LOL. Just try melt Ganyu or Yanfei burgeon. In many situations all kind of teams won't work the same with other dendro unit, like Nilou teams. Don't argue if you don't know what you are talking about.
Nahida is strong, comfy and all that stuff, but for me she's a must have because of all funny dendro team comps she enables. When you reach endgame there's literally nothing else to do other than theorycrafting and inventing bicycles. Especially proud of my burgeon Yanfei tbh
I agree. Yanfei burgeon is great! No idea why people keep talking about Thoma, when you can't even build him full EM, LOL. Yanfei with about 1200 EM with Nahida's buff can just wipe out mobs in a single explosion ❤🔥
@@nicklousmcchesney5151You can, you just need a fairly high amount of ER substats, which is hard to do since EM is already the rarest mainstat. Thoma is still theoretically the best character for Burgeon, but Yanfei could potentially be the best on-fielder, as she's a Catalyst. I haven't tested any of this though, so take my words with a very large grain of salt.
I'm glad you said what you said about "must pulls". To add to this, there is no 5 star you can pull that will get you back the gems you spent to get the 5 star. There is no competitive meta in Genshin so you really can just pull who you want, learn how to play them, and get pretty far / have fun playing.
For me personally, Nahida truly brought a joy of playing genshin to me and helped me 36 star abyss for the first time. having nahida, i build a lot of characters that used to be benched, that i pulled just for liking them, but never used. I believe having nahida can help a lot of forgotten characters work in her teams
@@CaramelMood06 what the question meant is if theres a team that uses nahida not for her dendro application / dendro reactions. and yeah there is its just a silly niche one. "dendro teams" mainly just refers to new team comps with main sources of damage that werent available before dendro, but this is not one of those, she just helps to buff eula with the def shred
She can simply be used as green Albedo who works vs bosses. Nice off field damage in infinite aoe. She can be used as EM buffer, healer, battery. She might be worse than Mona or Sucrose in that role but chances are, she'll be good enough. She's also the best shield breaker vs elements dendro works on.
@@Progeusz This, for example Nahida, Fischl/Kuki/Yae, Faruzan/Bennett/Zhongli/Jean and Wanderer/Xiao or duo Geo like Itto/Noelle. Nahida casually slapping 30-40k/2sec is not bad at all even if you can't use the EM buff or Dendro element
About the Widsith discussion - another great thing about front-loading the damage where possible, is that if you kill enemies or reduce their health quickly, you get more energy particles from them. This means you can get away with less energy requirements and build slightly more offensive stats overall (then you get even more front-loaded damage and even more front-loaded energy). Having said that, if you can't be bothered to min max for specific chambers and you use meta teams, it's perfectly possible to clear with ER weapon and ER sands on all your sub-dps characters. I like my 300 ER Bennett
"The end game content does not require endgame investment" That's a little bit of a misleading statement, while yes you can make it work with lower tier units/weapons but you'll need really good artifacts, adjust your team for the abyss and probably still need to retry a buttload of times.
Thanks for the vid man! Was considering getting C1 on her to get to C2 but changed my mind thanks to the advice you gave. Now can relax and save for Hydro Archon's C2
I almost never use dMC since I got Nahida, especially since I also got Yaoyao... But yeah, sure... I mean, dMC is ok-mediocre unit, yeah. It was clear to me from the start it's nothing amazing. Hype was completely absurd when Sumeru dropped and opinions/feelings from this time just carry to this day.
@@よしみ-x5j Nahida doesn’t work in Salad while Dendro Traveller does Collei has highest frontload Dendro application thus ideal for frontload damage from Nilou Bloom Aggravate does not need high dendro application thus Yao Yao’s application is more than enough Baizhu works with onfield carries against multiwave contents while with Nahida, you will need to switch the on field out, thus dps loss Alhaitham and Tighnari both have higher personal damage than Nahida, so their spread team are stronger than Nahida spread Everyone have their own things, I suggest you do some research
Wasn’t mentioned, but Nahida E on Sumeru NPCs gives extra story depth to them by reading their thoughts, including the limited time Event quests in Sumeru
@@dreznovk I swear I used it in a few sumeru quests and it didn't work. I say few because I rarely bothered with it (it's not very interesting even when it works). It definitely didn't work on the playable characters in the archon quest (Alhaitham, Nilou, Cyno, Candace etc), I remember it just showing dots.
I've been playing Prototype Amber on my Nahida since her release and honestly I cannot go back. Not having to worry about energy requirements at all combined with more flexible teambuilding because I don't need a dedicated healer in most teams because of it is really nice. To anyone who is trashing it, don't knock it until you try it!!
Used Prototype Amber on Nahida on the Abyss cycle where floor 12-2-2 is the Golden Wolflord and 12-3-2 are a lot of Rifthounds (I think it was the patch after her release?). Since I'm running a Hyperbloom team and my 4th has to be a Geo character, I had to slot in a Geo who would be more useful than just a sub-DPS (so not GMC or Ningguang) or Noelle whose shield gets penetrated through by the Rifthounds. My team had to be Nahida with Prototype Amber, Kuki Shinobu with full EM, Ayato for on-field Hydro application (I run Rational on the other side, so Xingqiu is busy), and Yun Jin to buff Ayato and break the Wolflord's shield. Nahida helps with the off-field healing so that Kuki doesn't get dropped by a Rifthound sneeze.
Let's be real - Yaoyao rarely will be better option than Nahida with Prototype Amber. Yes, I've already tested it enough. Yaoyao is only great when she stays on-field, so for Nilou-bloom. I dunno why Zajef is talking so much about fav for Nahida. I can be useful, yeah, but not very often. Prototype Amber is already more useful.
@@igg12 I care about facts, you know. Zajef is right about fav supremacy, just you can find moments of exaggeration / when recommendation doesn't make sense. I'm sure for Nahida it's not way to go for most scenarios, even simply because she generates tons of particles just by herself. It's same like his recommendation of fav on Yaoyao for all teams, while in quicken it's usually completely useless.
Answer: No Reason: There is no such thing as a "must pull" character. There are characters that can be significantly beneficial, but realistically all the content can be completed with 4 stars. Now I have noticed, that on mobile I gravitate towards stronger teams. Especially in the abyss. While on PC, I am willing to use teams that are interesting albeit maybe slightly less powerful. I picked up Nahida this banner, and she is indeed nice. But even though I had her at 89 with talents at 4/8/7 and 922 EM, 154% ER I didn't use her for floor 12. I tried a few od her teams out, but I ended up going back to my favorite team from last abyss Yaoyao/Fischl/Keqing/Kazuha and XQ/Zhongli/Hu Tao/Yelan. Of course it should be noted that the teams I ended up using are quite strong. But, it goes to show that most people who have been playing a while, and who have invested resin into their teams, probably don't NEED Nahida. The detail that pushed me to pull for Nahida was how good she is at collecting plants and stuff. That's an SS tier feature.
I asked this in the q&a but I guess it’s not technically relevant to nahida herself. What do you think a new dendro unit would need to have to replace her on most teams? What is nahida missing that a new support could replace her in? How would you design your perfect dendro support?
Nahida’s biggest weakness is in multi wave scenarios where you have to keep swapping her back to apply her E. If we have a character who applies dendro similar to Albedo’s E then that character could be better than Nahida in terms of dendro app. It’s be even better if the character somehow gives direct damage scaling similar to how Kazuha turns EM into elemental damage bonus.
For me a dendro layla will be a reliable substitute for nahida, baizhu kit is weird imo the shield have to be broken to apply dendro and that just for single target while layla have a durable shield that shoot homing missile, her burst is a mini ganyu's burst now imagine if it's dendro....
What we're missing is a Dendro Xingqiu. Basically, a fast Dendro applicator that's not a circle impact. Baizhu's dendro applicator is too shit so it doesn't fulfill that role. Works fine in Quicken but not in HB.
I think we already have this scenario and it’s healing so Yao Yao and Baizhu since Nahida’s HP is low and maybe some don’t have other slots for healers Their dendro application is way lower but i can see casuals gravitate towards them. Other than that, she’s pretty comfy in battles, kinda hard to nerf
Tbh the "no unit is a must pull" take is a correct one, but it doesn't help players who want quick answers to which unit should they really pull if primogems is a factor, and most people are lazy enough to sift through every guide in youtube to know Nahida's true value. Most people also aren't mechanical gods so having really strong characters like Nahida are a huge investment. Imo Nahida is really close to being a must pull.
Yes, it does help because people can just play the same ol national team and still clear content just fine. hence why no unit is a must pull. There’s no answer to which unit should anyone pull because it depends on what people really want for themselves. it is dumb to assume that people will always go for absolute power alone. people who care about both powerlevel and fun does exists. for example, Nilou. is she strong ? yes she is, but if you don’t like her playstyle, then why the hell would you pull for her ? Also, in what exist world that Genshin requires you to be a mechanical god ? seriously, Ive never seen someone struggle at placing Dendro MC’s burst before. do you need 500IQ to press E on Yaoyao ? do you need PhD certificate to drive Alhaitham ? like.. HUH ?
@@nanathedelta8561 in a context where people are genuinely ASKING for the answer, which means they are asking for your opinion or are waiting for people who knows better than them to helps them, answering with 'nothing is a must pull' doesn't really answer their question nor thats the answer from that kind of question itself. If people deliberately says 'there is no must pull in this game because its easy enough' then anything that makes your account shines or elevates your account IS A MUST PULL itself.
@@nanathedelta8561 you can only run like 1 national tho ? what about the other side. also why is my national but doing 36 star abyss my teams have decent enough stuff. just the fact i am running a Aquila bennet + engulfing lightning xiangling along with kazuha should be more than enough to offset my bad artifacts
@@Galariel and they already got a genuine answer. how is that not answer their question ? at this point, it’s not even about a question anymore but rather, trying so hard to validate unhealthy reason for pulling. The whole point of “no character is a must pull” is to help people escape the unhealthy FOMOs. It is good to know how strong characters are but nobody should feel pressured to pull for characters they don’t like just because they saw people showered the character with praises.
in aggravate you can simply remove anemo unit. No longer any hassle with VV. Can easily slot in a healer, buffer, shielder. Zhongli even gives omni res shred which Nahida benefits from, unlike anemo variant. Beidou is a great third electro instead of anemo - she also shreds electro res but provides a lot of electro damage, damage reduction, shield.
YES. Thanks for this comment. People are too attached to standard team templates. Nahida provides so huge value, that it easily can be more worth it to change anemo to triple electro or Zhongli or Kokomi, than changing her to Yaoyao Not mentioning that Nahida on Prototype Amber is also still almost always better than Yaoyao, especially when dendro application is top important - like on current floor 12.
15:50 that's why for keqing aggravate I much preffer running Yaoyao. Since her personal dmg doesnt matter and she heals a ton at a baseline you can put her on 4p instructors or noblesse and consolidate dendro application, healing and team buffs
Ture, the only reason I would consider baizhu to replace Yaoyao is because I wanna play yae in the future. Unlike Keqing with tons of I-frames, yae goes EEE~ with no resistance to interruption
An hour long video will not make me bored Zajef is just very informative and funny at the same time. I can still remember the pain of losing my 50/50 and have to go hard pity again just to get Nahida but she's all worth it and a solid unit.
I agree overall, but the problem is that by not having a unit like Nahida or Raiden , is, that you will be forced to use your valuable resourses to a unit as a replacement that does not have so much value, as them, in the course of time and as you get closer to the end content.
Sometimes I wanna give multiple thumbs ups Here, I wanted to already do it during the first 7 minutes of the video. Great job! I agree with you on so many points. 👍
@@LOBOTOMYtv Zhongli would have probably been the better option because I ended up not having a good time to swirl cryo with Kazuha when Wenut falls down.
A bit disappointed intergrassional wasn't mentioned :')) I just got her and was hyped to see your thoughts about it. Unless I missed it in another video?
im a cyno main, and i felt a small amount of regret when pulling nahida cos she didnt felt too much of an upgrade VS DMC, cos she's just more damage in Quicken. And in multi-wave enemies in abyss, i prefer DMC cos i wont have to swap early away from Cyno on his burst. Now i dont'regret her at all cos i just pair her with Cyno VS bosses that runs away most of the time, like the Terrorshroom.
Exact situation with Yelan. People hyped her so much and say she's a must pull. She's not. She'll be a great addition sure but you don't need to have her. I don't have her and I'm still doing fine. You can always work ard the teams as long as you invest in the teams that you have. Like Zajef said, you can always use an inferior teams. Genshin is not a game where you're locked behind paywall etc. And genshin players have this weird mindset of a strong character means the other character are trash which is far from the truth.
Yelan is a must pull. If you don't have her, you're shooting yourself in the foot in every regard. Playing with or without Yelan is a complete night and day. She's almost as versatile as Xingqiu (and every single player bloody needs at least two Xingqius, preferably three). She runs by far the fastest of any character in the game and if you grab her c1, she has effectively infinite sprint because she regens stamina during her Es. If she's c0, you can cycle her with Sayu or Kirara E hold (or Scara air dash). She's a tall female, so she runs, climbs and swims fast eve noutside of her E, unlike Sayu/Mona/Ayaka/Kirara. She has strong charged shot in gigantic aoe making her far superior to even Ganyu for overworld hunting. She has strong E which can raw oneshot small mobs, vape oneshot medium mobs, her burst is quite spammable and strong enough to clear any wave of enemies in one dps window. She's the ultimate carry of friendship teams, being able to solo most world bosses or domains in 20-40 seconds. You don't have her. You claim you're doing fine. It's possible. However it's also possible that you're not. It's quite likely you're just coping because you don't want to admit you made bad decisions after listening to manipulative people who told you that you don't need her. Genshin is a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Taking extra time and struggling to clear any content in satisfactory manner because your teams are full of inferior options isn't fun for majority of people.
@@Progeuszyelan simp can't handle that yelan is not a must have. What you're doing now is exactly what the video talked abt. You can beat a content w/o her and that's the point I'm making. No one said don't pull on yelan. I'm saying she's not a must pull if you don't want her. Why should someone waste their gems over a character they don't like? But if ppl want to pull for her then do it. Like I said she's a great addition. I don't listen to ppl when I want a character or not. I looked at whether I need them. And I still have no need for yelan that's why I didn't pull for her. Given a choice I would rather pull for kokomi instead for her hydro application. If I listened to ppl, I would have Hu Tao, Ganyu, yelan in my teams. If I listened to ppl I wouldn't have pulled for Cyno. But no, it's because I rather pull for characters I LIKE and wants to play with to have FUN. We're not talking abt speed run here. The point here is no character is a must pull. If you dont like Yelan than you don't have to pull for her because there's other options and that's the point I'm making. And no dude. I am not coping. No one manipulated me because I know what I need or want for my roster. I am doing just fine because I've been beating abyss before Yelan and even now after skipping her banner twice. So you don't need to make all these assumptions abt me being manipulated or coping just because I don't have Yelan. I already have xingqiu and have a variety of teams comps. Using characters like Alhaitham are what I call fun for me. And if you think having fun in a game means being a metaslave than sure you do you but many other ppl have fun by pulling for a characters they WANT. You talk abt how game is supposed to be fun yet here you are dictating what characters ppl are supposed to pull to have fun in your terms. 🙄 So take a chill pill and go sit down. Not everyone is 'coping' because they don't have Yelan.
Yelan is a must pull. If you don't have her, you're shooting yourself in the foot in every regard. Playing with or without Yelan is a complete night and day. She's almost as versatile as Xingqiu (and every single player bloody needs at least two Xingqius, preferably three). She runs by far the fastest of any character in the game and if you grab her c1, she has effectively infinite sprint because she regens stamina during her Es. If she's c0, you can cycle her with Sayu or Kirara E hold (or Scara air dash). She's a tall female, so she runs, climbs and swims fast eve noutside of her E, unlike Sayu/Mona/Ayaka/Kirara. She has strong charged shot in gigantic aoe making her far superior to even Ganyu for overworld hunting. She has strong E which can raw oneshot small mobs, vape oneshot medium mobs, her burst is quite spammable and strong enough to clear any wave of enemies in one dps window. She's the ultimate carry of friendship teams, being able to solo most world bosses or domains in 20-40 seconds. You don't have her. You claim you're doing fine. It's possible. However it's also possible that you're not. It's quite likely you're just coping because you don't want to admit you made bad decisions after listening to manipulative people who told you that you don't need her. Genshin is a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Taking extra time and struggling to clear any content in satisfactory manner because your teams are full of inferior options isn't fun for majority of people.
Of course. Simply - she is not an absolute must pull, cause... there is no such thing as an absolute must pull. While where 'must' has real meaning - like - must to get most of the value from dendro - yes, obviously she is a must pull.
@@Sorestlor it kinda is, cus you don’t need chip healing if can dodge properly. And if you are against corrosion, better bring a real healer. Also Sucrose should be on field here to trigger Fischl A4 and C6 because nahida can’t trigger Fischl A4 with spread. Meaning that running PA on sucrose = less EM sharing, less swirl dmg, less aggravated swirl dmg. So yeah, it works well because the team dps is top meta but hmmmmge it’s cursed for sure.
@@Sorestlor i desperately hope we get a dendro beidou in the future. One with good damage and aoe application as well as just some defensive utility. Knowing that baizhu is more of a comfy pick hurts me so much. 🥺
Thank you so much for the "non must pull" discourse! I only pull for characters that I like enough (while being aware of meta) and Nahida doesn't fulfill that requirement. Definitely will skip her without regret even if she would be a very very strong addition haha
One of the big reasons I want her is that I love mechanics that make grouping less important. I think this is one of the main areas where they can explore niches, inwards radial knockback would be cool since it affects big Vishaps etc., grouping on different elements, just a straight up dmg share onto a marked target.
I’m scared they won’t ever give abilities that sidestep grouping like trikarma ever again. I’m glad for my Kazuha because my two ways of dealing with aoe is Kazuha and Nahida.
@@exiaax Yeah, can't count on anything, sadly. A dmg share would also be a sick way to make single-target characters more versatile btw. Let's say it shares 100% of the dmg for simplicity, vs. 2 enemies: A character that's already doing 2x dmg now only grows from 2x to 3x, whereas a single-target dmg dealer just doubles their very high 1x. 100% sounds very broken vs. exactly 2 targets, but the same principle holds up with lower multipliers. This'd be very nice for all those double-boss setups, no more suffering trying to keep them together, in my dreams anyway. Bonus points if they can be a driver with characters like Xinqiu, Fischl, Yelan and probably an Anemo, maybe hyperbloom or even aggravate/spread
@@nanathedelta8561 It depends, there are niche cases where it will carry though, like the burning team Zajef mentioned in this video, there are also cases where it does next to nothing I do also count her E's personal dmg towards this btw., since that is also not dependent on grouping and adds to the same quality
Really the only downside of Nahida is that if you keep killing waves of enemies too quick, your E might still be on cooldown for the next wave of enemies, especially if you hold her skill. This is bad when you would want to off-field her.
i think people overestimate how bad this actually is, your skill has barely any CD and you can run sac frags on her if this is such massive issue, her skill is like 6 seconds CD anyway lol, you dont kill anything that quickly usually
I think it's more like if you have a unit that needs a lot of field time (AKA Cyno), waves of enemies are inconvenient because you'll need to switch out early in order to refresh Nahida's dendro application
Anyone that gets her will vastly improve their account. I literally need a 2nd one for the amount of teams she's on and ease of use and is best at what she does
I think her c2 only gets better as more dendro/electro characters get released. (Maybe even hydro characters.) The defense shred on quicken is insane and the ocasional crits on bloom reactions is something that's unique to her c2. It's like having a global constellation on any of dendro related reaction teams. Quite worth it if you are a light spender like myself. (But please don't feel forced to spend money for a free game)
if by a "must pull" you mean a character that is really strong, easy to build, that will make your life in genshin easier, plus help you beat abyss, plus harvest things from far away, then Nahida is a "must pull". if you mean in the literal sense, then no, you don't HAVE to pull her, it's crazy but you don't actually have to wish on her banner and play her.
Just for reference, in honkai impact 3 for any1 who played it, try looking at the top 100 in arena with every player using the same characters and with full gacha gear on specific bosses. Or even without looking at the top 100, try clearing it with whatever f2p setup and see if like you can get 46080pts on SSS-dificulty which is like the "36-star" on arena at least to get all the base rewards. That is what you'd call a must pull, and not necessarily saying that it's pay2win or you need to whale but pulling on the right characters or gear for current state of meta hi3rd is in. Genshin just doesn't have that level of competition or even difficulty, to clear endgame it's simply just "beat floor 12 every chamber in under 3mins" for the full rewards, and a lot of the characters even with 4-star teams only are good enough with the right investment. There is basically a lot more flexibility in building teams and it doesn't matter if you clear 30-secs faster with a meta team than a non-meta team since you get the same rewards as long as it's cleared under 3-mins. Technically there isn't a "must pull" character, but there are high value pull characters that if you own would make life easier but at the same time the game doesn't restrict your progress if you don't own these specific characters.
Nahida is kind of cringe for a salad team, but I still like playing Nahida, Fischl, Kazuha, Barbara. When it works it's a fun team, but the DPS isn't always enough to 36 star the abyss.
I'm a launch player and decided for the first time to go for cons because theyre will be no more new worthy units till 4.0 and kinda tired of getting new units just to deal the same damage but in a bit different way. Like, I have a lot of great 5 and 4 star units so that they'll probably last me for years to come and I still will be doing great in Abyss unless HYV change something and decide to powercreep. Going for her c2 for big pp damage because I've been literally using her hyperbloom team nonstop since her release. Even if 4.0 will be non-dendro version, I still won't feel bad about getting this boss of a unit to c2.
"Constellations and weapons are basically the same thing" and her my friends why he is biased asf, and doesn't know how the game actually works. Surely Ganyu's C6 (which id such a qql improvement) === R5 her BiS weapon, surely Hu Tao C1-C3 is the same as staff of Homa. Ofc, Cons make you do less damage, but they transform your gameplay and allow for different teams, etc.
how is this an argument when alhaitham and nahida are the 2 best 5* characters of 3.0 id say nahida is no 1 then 2nd to him is alhaitham but both is really meta and op
Thank you for this ask zajef, I was wondering if I should really pull her. But then I remembered that I wanna play hyperbloom ayato and I wanted to play my cyno lol
The only reason that Nahida is a must pull is that if you want to know what the Sumeru NPC are really thinking.
-checks nilou's thoughts
-just three dots
-yea, that sounds about right.
@@ooochoa not a single thought behind those blue eyes
Azariq and Babel. ThoseWhoKnow
And farming those fruits too
@@marky4627just did that quest yesterday and learned azariq was a traitor when he was in that giant ruin machine lol I was kinda expecting him to be a traitor but Nahida just confirmed it xD
Other point to her CA, it can hit those flying turrets in the Scaramouche fight, when a lot of attacks won't.
That's why I like running my spread team for the scara weekly boss, Nahida makes that part so quick
Ganyu's Charged attacks do it to. Hence why I replace Yelan with Ganyu in my Double hydro HU Tao team for that one fight.
@@MrHav1k Not just Ganyu. A lot of other characters can get it done.
@@MrHav1k I just use Ganyu Melt against that boss. It's so easy with her
alhaitham's AA, the one where he kicks his sword, has enough vertical range to hit it too
Watching this while zajef died of dies fishing for angler set was truly one of the moments of all time.
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i love nahidas skill because it makes collecting her own mats easier 😌 i can just e instead off falling off the damn cliff
Unironically wasn't gonna roll her before I knew she could do this.
Yea, I used Nahida to farm for her own mats lol
this should be included in reasons to pull for her, bcs it's such a qol in overworld
@@Dafydd4 😊1ew😊Vq😅❤😊
imagine not pre farming smh
I love how restrained he is when praising Nahida; he doesn’t mislead and say she’s literally insane and everyone needs her
I mean, if you want to play dendro teams it's night and day with and without Nahida. Honestly it's hard not to praise her with how much she brings to those teams.
she is significantly better than dendro mc and its not even close..stop the cap..its not like kazuha and sucrose comparison
@@nat6lbg440 be for fucking real playing dendro is not night and day without her she just brings more comfort and thats it stop being a meta slave
@@mangshu21 c6 sucrose with hakushin being better in aggravate than c0 kazuha says alot abt your statement xD
@@mangshu21 i mean, if your dendro mc is running 130-150% ER, or the seed gets burned it will suck. But you can run them at 230% as solo dendro, don't bother on good artifacts, and as long as the enemies are inside your Q you are fine. Unless your account and characters aren't well optimized for dendro team or you don't know what you are doing; that's the only way to think dendro MC are bad as character. Their caveats are very easy to come by and allow you to play hyperbloom, bloom nilou, burgeon, quicken teams
If you're not sure whether you should pull for her; do a coin toss. If you hate the result, then you just found your answer.
Edit: I don't take credit for the advice. I don't remember where, but I also learned it somewhere on the internet.
highkey good advice for many people who don't listen to their gut about pulling for a character. and even if you don't want them now, there's always chances to get them in the future so you're never really missing out anyways.
Hmm .. is it from a movie coz I am forgetting the refrence but pretty sure I heard this dialogue XD.
But good advice
saw something similar to a poster who wanted to decide between Ganyu and Xiao, and did the same coin flip thing
in boardwalk empire rothstein said to nucky, "flip a coin, when its in the air you will know what side you hopping for"
run with the advice and take credit for it
A 1 hour ask zajef
You went all out thanks man
boi made like 10 nahida videos already too 🤣
when you see a group of enemies with hydro on them in open world and taking 2 pictures with sac frags and the entire group is gone. One of the most satisfying things in this game
You can also do it with raiden, i lately run raiden on gilded with soss em dmg crit just for weird ass open word team 1 shoting enemy from mile away
ah yes. the Nahida-Raiden undercover team
Rain + Nilou + Nahida is just a damn green lightshow in the overworld as well lol
i wish i didnt get rid of the rainfall in inazuma
@@mangshu21 same bro same
your voice acting at every ask zajef videos never ceases to amuse me 🤣 Always a great way to end with a laugh
She can collect violet flowers in Liyue for Lvling up your qiqi to lvl90 so she's a must pull
her synergy with baizhu is that she can pick the violetgrass for him
I got qiqi on her banner and now I'm using her to level up qiqi
@@Taipan278 If i get Baizhu I cant wait to heal HP just by picking up mint haha
You're right about that I don't need Nahida to clear the abyss but I had to pull her just to replace Dendro Traveller. I need my Traveller to be free from Dendro and having Nahida as a replacement, I can keep my hyperbloom team. However other Dendro characters doesn't fit that role the way I hoped for. They are either less potent or not the way I used them.
Your EN Nahida voice lines are better than most other characters you tried to do
Bruh
His xiao is the best
@@NobleLaikaONCE THE SNOW IS THICK ENOUGH, WE CAN EAT IT
says alot about EN voice actors he sounds exactly the same as other hags trying to sound like lolis
the comment at 23:06 is one of the main reasons why I appreciate Zajef77, he straight up tells you the ideal thing to do and follows up with "have fun", like... just test things yourself, do things on your own and figure what suits you better, have fun with what you have and whichever way you want to. thanks, Zajeff, I will have fun
Zajef is the goat for making these, especially for answering that last question
I think what changed since nahida release until now is that she is no longer the only 5 star limited dendro unite other than that she is still as broken as she was .
Is she necessary ? No she isn’t . Is she the best at what she does ? Yep she is .
If you're gonna get any Dendro unit - it's her...
@@jakeryker546 No, it will be the one you like the most.
@@mephisto-- No, it's Nahida. She is irreplaceable.
@@よしみ-x5j she's replaceable, if u r her fan then there is no point talking to u
@@restart6358 Of course she is irreplaceable, LOL. Just try melt Ganyu or Yanfei burgeon. In many situations all kind of teams won't work the same with other dendro unit, like Nilou teams. Don't argue if you don't know what you are talking about.
This is exactly why I love Zajef and trust him the most when it comes to meta or tc. He's objective and only speaks what people need to hear.
Nahida is strong, comfy and all that stuff, but for me she's a must have because of all funny dendro team comps she enables. When you reach endgame there's literally nothing else to do other than theorycrafting and inventing bicycles. Especially proud of my burgeon Yanfei tbh
I agree. Yanfei burgeon is great! No idea why people keep talking about Thoma, when you can't even build him full EM, LOL. Yanfei with about 1200 EM with Nahida's buff can just wipe out mobs in a single explosion ❤🔥
@@よしみ-x5j why can’t you build thoma full EM?
@@nicklousmcchesney5151
ER
@@nicklousmcchesney5151 he has a really high ER requirement unless he is c4 and all of your party members carry favonious
@@nicklousmcchesney5151You can, you just need a fairly high amount of ER substats, which is hard to do since EM is already the rarest mainstat. Thoma is still theoretically the best character for Burgeon, but Yanfei could potentially be the best on-fielder, as she's a Catalyst. I haven't tested any of this though, so take my words with a very large grain of salt.
I'm glad you said what you said about "must pulls".
To add to this, there is no 5 star you can pull that will get you back the gems you spent to get the 5 star. There is no competitive meta in Genshin so you really can just pull who you want, learn how to play them, and get pretty far / have fun playing.
For me personally, Nahida truly brought a joy of playing genshin to me and helped me 36 star abyss for the first time. having nahida, i build a lot of characters that used to be benched, that i pulled just for liking them, but never used. I believe having nahida can help a lot of forgotten characters work in her teams
42:00 yeah she does have a non-dendro team, she works great at c2 with raiden-eula for the def shred lmaooo
i think what zajef meant was, she herself is a dendro unit,
non-dendro team = no dendro unit in that team lol
So wat, you use her Burst but not the E? I am confused, how do you have no dendro with nahida, a Dendro unit
@@CaramelMood06 what the question meant is if theres a team that uses nahida not for her dendro application / dendro reactions. and yeah there is its just a silly niche one. "dendro teams" mainly just refers to new team comps with main sources of damage that werent available before dendro, but this is not one of those, she just helps to buff eula with the def shred
She can simply be used as green Albedo who works vs bosses. Nice off field damage in infinite aoe. She can be used as EM buffer, healer, battery. She might be worse than Mona or Sucrose in that role but chances are, she'll be good enough. She's also the best shield breaker vs elements dendro works on.
@@Progeusz This, for example Nahida, Fischl/Kuki/Yae, Faruzan/Bennett/Zhongli/Jean and Wanderer/Xiao or duo Geo like Itto/Noelle. Nahida casually slapping 30-40k/2sec is not bad at all even if you can't use the EM buff or Dendro element
I died at zajef doing his own nahida voiceover. I'd pay for a voice pack
Thanks as always for these descriptive and in depth videos Zajef
Thanks for talking about not needing a must pull unit, cause way too many talk about very good characters equivalent to "must pull or you'll die"
"It depends, eat the pants, hit the pens", variability reigns as always
It's 2AM here and i have work tomorrow so yes i decide to watch 1 hr clip from Zajeff!
I rly respect that😂
About the Widsith discussion - another great thing about front-loading the damage where possible, is that if you kill enemies or reduce their health quickly, you get more energy particles from them. This means you can get away with less energy requirements and build slightly more offensive stats overall (then you get even more front-loaded damage and even more front-loaded energy). Having said that, if you can't be bothered to min max for specific chambers and you use meta teams, it's perfectly possible to clear with ER weapon and ER sands on all your sub-dps characters. I like my 300 ER Bennett
"The end game content does not require endgame investment" That's a little bit of a misleading statement, while yes you can make it work with lower tier units/weapons but you'll need really good artifacts, adjust your team for the abyss and probably still need to retry a buttload of times.
Thanks for the vid man!
Was considering getting C1 on her to get to C2 but changed my mind thanks to the advice you gave.
Now can relax and save for Hydro Archon's C2
I am so happy that even to this day, Dendro Traveller is as good as they are. It took 4 elements, but finally they have a really great element
Dendro is one of the better element out there, no dendro character is completely outclassed by Nahida, everyone has their own best thing
I can't wait for Fontaine so Traveler can finally become Hydro and be able to vaporize, it'll be fun to see
I almost never use dMC since I got Nahida, especially since I also got Yaoyao... But yeah, sure... I mean, dMC is ok-mediocre unit, yeah. It was clear to me from the start it's nothing amazing. Hype was completely absurd when Sumeru dropped and opinions/feelings from this time just carry to this day.
@@FischlInsultsMePls LOL, sure, cope cope. Especially with Collei. Have fun!
@@よしみ-x5j Nahida doesn’t work in Salad while Dendro Traveller does
Collei has highest frontload Dendro application thus ideal for frontload damage from Nilou Bloom
Aggravate does not need high dendro application thus Yao Yao’s application is more than enough
Baizhu works with onfield carries against multiwave contents while with Nahida, you will need to switch the on field out, thus dps loss
Alhaitham and Tighnari both have higher personal damage than Nahida, so their spread team are stronger than Nahida spread
Everyone have their own things, I suggest you do some research
Wasn’t mentioned, but Nahida E on Sumeru NPCs gives extra story depth to them by reading their thoughts, including the limited time Event quests in Sumeru
The last time I tried it in a sumeru limited event it did nothing, just showed dots. I've never bothered with it since.
This is my biggest reason for wanting her.
@@MaskedGuyCh it's a hit or miss with events but for archon/character/world quests and commissions it works 99% of time in my experience.
@@dreznovk I swear I used it in a few sumeru quests and it didn't work. I say few because I rarely bothered with it (it's not very interesting even when it works). It definitely didn't work on the playable characters in the archon quest (Alhaitham, Nilou, Cyno, Candace etc), I remember it just showing dots.
Yes, in Jeth quest it's amazing how it reveals part of the plot
I've been playing Prototype Amber on my Nahida since her release and honestly I cannot go back. Not having to worry about energy requirements at all combined with more flexible teambuilding because I don't need a dedicated healer in most teams because of it is really nice. To anyone who is trashing it, don't knock it until you try it!!
yea I tried it too it's good
Used Prototype Amber on Nahida on the Abyss cycle where floor 12-2-2 is the Golden Wolflord and 12-3-2 are a lot of Rifthounds (I think it was the patch after her release?). Since I'm running a Hyperbloom team and my 4th has to be a Geo character, I had to slot in a Geo who would be more useful than just a sub-DPS (so not GMC or Ningguang) or Noelle whose shield gets penetrated through by the Rifthounds. My team had to be Nahida with Prototype Amber, Kuki Shinobu with full EM, Ayato for on-field Hydro application (I run Rational on the other side, so Xingqiu is busy), and Yun Jin to buff Ayato and break the Wolflord's shield. Nahida helps with the off-field healing so that Kuki doesn't get dropped by a Rifthound sneeze.
Let's be real - Yaoyao rarely will be better option than Nahida with Prototype Amber. Yes, I've already tested it enough. Yaoyao is only great when she stays on-field, so for Nilou-bloom. I dunno why Zajef is talking so much about fav for Nahida. I can be useful, yeah, but not very often. Prototype Amber is already more useful.
@@よしみ-x5j well end of the day it's his opinion so if you like something don't let a random guy say otherwise
@@igg12 I care about facts, you know. Zajef is right about fav supremacy, just you can find moments of exaggeration / when recommendation doesn't make sense. I'm sure for Nahida it's not way to go for most scenarios, even simply because she generates tons of particles just by herself. It's same like his recommendation of fav on Yaoyao for all teams, while in quicken it's usually completely useless.
You know its a good pull by zajef if his ask zajef is almost an hour long
Am i only ppl who rewatch mutiple time per vid cuz i like how Zajef talk and laugh.
Bruh, don't spy on me. It's not like there is anything better to do, there is no end game anyway.
I love Nahida. She is such a lazy character to use for applying dendro.
Answer: No
Reason: There is no such thing as a "must pull" character.
There are characters that can be significantly beneficial, but realistically all the content can be completed with 4 stars.
Now I have noticed, that on mobile I gravitate towards stronger teams. Especially in the abyss. While on PC, I am willing to use teams that are interesting albeit maybe slightly less powerful.
I picked up Nahida this banner, and she is indeed nice. But even though I had her at 89 with talents at 4/8/7 and 922 EM, 154% ER I didn't use her for floor 12. I tried a few od her teams out, but I ended up going back to my favorite team from last abyss Yaoyao/Fischl/Keqing/Kazuha and XQ/Zhongli/Hu Tao/Yelan.
Of course it should be noted that the teams I ended up using are quite strong. But, it goes to show that most people who have been playing a while, and who have invested resin into their teams, probably don't NEED Nahida.
The detail that pushed me to pull for Nahida was how good she is at collecting plants and stuff. That's an SS tier feature.
Na = Sodium
No = Copium
I look forward to the voiceline impressions at the end of these videos. Never stop please!
I asked this in the q&a but I guess it’s not technically relevant to nahida herself. What do you think a new dendro unit would need to have to replace her on most teams? What is nahida missing that a new support could replace her in? How would you design your perfect dendro support?
Nahida’s biggest weakness is in multi wave scenarios where you have to keep swapping her back to apply her E. If we have a character who applies dendro similar to Albedo’s E then that character could be better than Nahida in terms of dendro app. It’s be even better if the character somehow gives direct damage scaling similar to how Kazuha turns EM into elemental damage bonus.
For me a dendro layla will be a reliable substitute for nahida, baizhu kit is weird imo the shield have to be broken to apply dendro and that just for single target while layla have a durable shield that shoot homing missile, her burst is a mini ganyu's burst now imagine if it's dendro....
What we're missing is a Dendro Xingqiu. Basically, a fast Dendro applicator that's not a circle impact. Baizhu's dendro applicator is too shit so it doesn't fulfill that role. Works fine in Quicken but not in HB.
I think we already have this scenario and it’s healing so Yao Yao and Baizhu since Nahida’s HP is low and maybe some don’t have other slots for healers
Their dendro application is way lower but i can see casuals gravitate towards them. Other than that, she’s pretty comfy in battles, kinda hard to nerf
if her E was like childe riptide where enemies affect other enemies when they die she would be perfect
Great review! As someone that has her and is going for Nilou now, the Nilou bits of the review helped a lot too.
Tbh the "no unit is a must pull" take is a correct one, but it doesn't help players who want quick answers to which unit should they really pull if primogems is a factor, and most people are lazy enough to sift through every guide in youtube to know Nahida's true value. Most people also aren't mechanical gods so having really strong characters like Nahida are a huge investment. Imo Nahida is really close to being a must pull.
Yes, it does help because people can just play the same ol national team and still clear content just fine. hence why no unit is a must pull.
There’s no answer to which unit should anyone pull because it depends on what people really want for themselves. it is dumb to assume that people will always go for absolute power alone. people who care about both powerlevel and fun does exists. for example, Nilou. is she strong ? yes she is, but if you don’t like her playstyle, then why the hell would you pull for her ?
Also, in what exist world that Genshin requires you to be a mechanical god ? seriously, Ive never seen someone struggle at placing Dendro MC’s burst before. do you need 500IQ to press E on Yaoyao ? do you need PhD certificate to drive Alhaitham ? like.. HUH ?
@@nanathedelta8561 in a context where people are genuinely ASKING for the answer, which means they are asking for your opinion or are waiting for people who knows better than them to helps them, answering with 'nothing is a must pull' doesn't really answer their question nor thats the answer from that kind of question itself.
If people deliberately says 'there is no must pull in this game because its easy enough' then anything that makes your account shines or elevates your account IS A MUST PULL itself.
@@nanathedelta8561 you can only run like 1 national tho ? what about the other side. also why is my national but doing 36 star abyss my teams have decent enough stuff. just the fact i am running a Aquila bennet + engulfing lightning xiangling along with kazuha should be more than enough to offset my bad artifacts
nahida and yelan are my must pull.
@@Galariel and they already got a genuine answer. how is that not answer their question ? at this point, it’s not even about a question anymore but rather, trying so hard to validate unhealthy reason for pulling.
The whole point of “no character is a must pull” is to help people escape the unhealthy FOMOs. It is good to know how strong characters are but nobody should feel pressured to pull for characters they don’t like just because they saw people showered the character with praises.
"Dehya can beat me up (it won't hurt)" interesting Zajef... interesting
in aggravate you can simply remove anemo unit. No longer any hassle with VV. Can easily slot in a healer, buffer, shielder. Zhongli even gives omni res shred which Nahida benefits from, unlike anemo variant. Beidou is a great third electro instead of anemo - she also shreds electro res but provides a lot of electro damage, damage reduction, shield.
YES. Thanks for this comment. People are too attached to standard team templates. Nahida provides so huge value, that it easily can be more worth it to change anemo to triple electro or Zhongli or Kokomi, than changing her to Yaoyao Not mentioning that Nahida on Prototype Amber is also still almost always better than Yaoyao, especially when dendro application is top important - like on current floor 12.
Every Zajeff upload makes a day brighter.
Nahida hyperbloom with kuki is seriously insane, nothing can stop me. Yelan and XQ are there too.
As usual great and informative guide while entertaining at the same time. It’s always a good day when you post your videos.
zajef voicing nahida lines is the best part of the vid
his Japanese voice lines made my day
Yes, yes, one thousand times YES.
15:50 that's why for keqing aggravate I much preffer running Yaoyao. Since her personal dmg doesnt matter and she heals a ton at a baseline you can put her on 4p instructors or noblesse and consolidate dendro application, healing and team buffs
Ture, the only reason I would consider baizhu to replace Yaoyao is because I wanna play yae in the future. Unlike Keqing with tons of I-frames, yae goes EEE~ with no resistance to interruption
Congrats on 77.7k subs, Zajef77!
ngl as a lazy f2p and a non min maxer, Nahida+Nilou banner feels like a wet dream
I haven't even watched the vid but these videos are so informational and helpful to the entire community ,thank you Zajef
One of these days, the video will just be him drill rapping, and you'll feel SO silly for prematurely commenting.
An hour long video will not make me bored Zajef is just very informative and funny at the same time. I can still remember the pain of losing my 50/50 and have to go hard pity again just to get Nahida but she's all worth it and a solid unit.
I agree overall, but the problem is that by not having a unit like Nahida or Raiden , is, that you will be forced to use your valuable resourses to a unit as a replacement that does not have so much value, as them, in the course of time and as you get closer to the end content.
Nahida for lore reasons is amazing. Reading minds of NPCs is crucial for me. I love lore.
Sometimes I wanna give multiple thumbs ups
Here, I wanted to already do it during the first 7 minutes of the video. Great job! I agree with you on so many points. 👍
I just cleared abyss with my fastest time for the Wenut by using the funny Ganyu Burning/Melt comp. Thank you papa jeff
Who did you use for the flex unit? Kazuha, dehya, or zhongli?
@@LOBOTOMYtv Zhongli would have probably been the better option because I ended up not having a good time to swirl cryo with Kazuha when Wenut falls down.
the voice lines at the end were a blessing
34:51 - MIND = BLOWN
A bit disappointed intergrassional wasn't mentioned :')) I just got her and was hyped to see your thoughts about it. Unless I missed it in another video?
im a cyno main, and i felt a small amount of regret when pulling nahida cos she didnt felt too much of an upgrade VS DMC, cos she's just more damage in Quicken. And in multi-wave enemies in abyss, i prefer DMC cos i wont have to swap early away from Cyno on his burst. Now i dont'regret her at all cos i just pair her with Cyno VS bosses that runs away most of the time, like the Terrorshroom.
Hello, Zajef. I am a long-time subscriber and I've been waiting for my Zajef voiceline pack for quite a while now
Hoping to get nahida so my wanderer can finally be with his mother.
zajef and zyox voice lines on genshin when mihoyo? BALLS
Exact situation with Yelan. People hyped her so much and say she's a must pull. She's not. She'll be a great addition sure but you don't need to have her.
I don't have her and I'm still doing fine.
You can always work ard the teams as long as you invest in the teams that you have. Like Zajef said, you can always use an inferior teams. Genshin is not a game where you're locked behind paywall etc. And genshin players have this weird mindset of a strong character means the other character are trash which is far from the truth.
Yelan is a must pull.
If you don't have her, you're shooting yourself in the foot in every regard. Playing with or without Yelan is a complete night and day. She's almost as versatile as Xingqiu (and every single player bloody needs at least two Xingqius, preferably three). She runs by far the fastest of any character in the game and if you grab her c1, she has effectively infinite sprint because she regens stamina during her Es. If she's c0, you can cycle her with Sayu or Kirara E hold (or Scara air dash). She's a tall female, so she runs, climbs and swims fast eve noutside of her E, unlike Sayu/Mona/Ayaka/Kirara. She has strong charged shot in gigantic aoe making her far superior to even Ganyu for overworld hunting. She has strong E which can raw oneshot small mobs, vape oneshot medium mobs, her burst is quite spammable and strong enough to clear any wave of enemies in one dps window. She's the ultimate carry of friendship teams, being able to solo most world bosses or domains in 20-40 seconds.
You don't have her. You claim you're doing fine. It's possible. However it's also possible that you're not. It's quite likely you're just coping because you don't want to admit you made bad decisions after listening to manipulative people who told you that you don't need her.
Genshin is a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Taking extra time and struggling to clear any content in satisfactory manner because your teams are full of inferior options isn't fun for majority of people.
@@Progeuszyelan simp can't handle that yelan is not a must have. What you're doing now is exactly what the video talked abt.
You can beat a content w/o her and that's the point I'm making. No one said don't pull on yelan. I'm saying she's not a must pull if you don't want her. Why should someone waste their gems over a character they don't like? But if ppl want to pull for her then do it. Like I said she's a great addition.
I don't listen to ppl when I want a character or not. I looked at whether I need them. And I still have no need for yelan that's why I didn't pull for her. Given a choice I would rather pull for kokomi instead for her hydro application.
If I listened to ppl, I would have Hu Tao, Ganyu, yelan in my teams. If I listened to ppl I wouldn't have pulled for Cyno.
But no, it's because I rather pull for characters I LIKE and wants to play with to have FUN.
We're not talking abt speed run here. The point here is no character is a must pull. If you dont like Yelan than you don't have to pull for her because there's other options and that's the point I'm making.
And no dude. I am not coping. No one manipulated me because I know what I need or want for my roster. I am doing just fine because I've been beating abyss before Yelan and even now after skipping her banner twice. So you don't need to make all these assumptions abt me being manipulated or coping just because I don't have Yelan. I already have xingqiu and have a variety of teams comps. Using characters like Alhaitham are what I call fun for me.
And if you think having fun in a game means being a metaslave than sure you do you but many other ppl have fun by pulling for a characters they WANT. You talk abt how game is supposed to be fun yet here you are dictating what characters ppl are supposed to pull to have fun in your terms. 🙄
So take a chill pill and go sit down. Not everyone is 'coping' because they don't have Yelan.
Yelan is a must pull.
If you don't have her, you're shooting yourself in the foot in every regard. Playing with or without Yelan is a complete night and day. She's almost as versatile as Xingqiu (and every single player bloody needs at least two Xingqius, preferably three). She runs by far the fastest of any character in the game and if you grab her c1, she has effectively infinite sprint because she regens stamina during her Es. If she's c0, you can cycle her with Sayu or Kirara E hold (or Scara air dash). She's a tall female, so she runs, climbs and swims fast eve noutside of her E, unlike Sayu/Mona/Ayaka/Kirara. She has strong charged shot in gigantic aoe making her far superior to even Ganyu for overworld hunting. She has strong E which can raw oneshot small mobs, vape oneshot medium mobs, her burst is quite spammable and strong enough to clear any wave of enemies in one dps window. She's the ultimate carry of friendship teams, being able to solo most world bosses or domains in 20-40 seconds.
You don't have her. You claim you're doing fine. It's possible. However it's also possible that you're not. It's quite likely you're just coping because you don't want to admit you made bad decisions after listening to manipulative people who told you that you don't need her.
Genshin is a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Taking extra time and struggling to clear any content in satisfactory manner because your teams are full of inferior options isn't fun for majority of people.
@@myrcle ..... Yelan simps are that desperate that they copy pasted and commented on posts that said she's not a must pull huh.
@@Progeusz thanks for a new copypasta 😂
sir your way to explain stuff is professor worthy, better than grandpa in my college and waaaaaaaaaaayyyy more eloquent
If im recommending nahida to everyone i kinda feel like shes a must pull
Of course. Simply - she is not an absolute must pull, cause... there is no such thing as an absolute must pull. While where 'must' has real meaning - like - must to get most of the value from dendro - yes, obviously she is a must pull.
The ending is always good
The "solution" for the yae team i use is to use sucrose with prototype amber for healing + VV.
Hello fellow protoamber enjoyer :D
oh boi, so I am not the only one doing this cursed shit.
I think its not cursed... Right?
@@Sorestlor it kinda is, cus you don’t need chip healing if can dodge properly. And if you are against corrosion, better bring a real healer. Also Sucrose should be on field here to trigger Fischl A4 and C6 because nahida can’t trigger Fischl A4 with spread. Meaning that running PA on sucrose = less EM sharing, less swirl dmg, less aggravated swirl dmg. So yeah, it works well because the team dps is top meta but hmmmmge it’s cursed for sure.
@@Sorestlor i desperately hope we get a dendro beidou in the future. One with good damage and aoe application as well as just some defensive utility. Knowing that baizhu is more of a comfy pick hurts me so much. 🥺
LET'S GOOO!! Prototype amber nahida gang rise up!!
nahida is the one unit i don't feel right benching for dendro teams
Burning is the best griefing reaction in co-ops. It's so fun xD
Thank you so much for the "non must pull" discourse! I only pull for characters that I like enough (while being aware of meta) and Nahida doesn't fulfill that requirement.
Definitely will skip her without regret even if she would be a very very strong addition haha
closest unit to a must pull
Oh no, I mean oh yes, a 55 min. video about 1 character. Short answer to Nahida, yes! Thank you for your awesome video like always!
this is one of the most passive aggressive comments I've ever seen
The shorter answer is NO and he gave that answer in the first minute.
@@tscolicious The shortest answer is it depends on the person...
@@tscolicious I watched like 33% of the video. I didn’t say that it’s his short answer. It’s mine.
I am here for the voice acting part in the end
One of the big reasons I want her is that I love mechanics that make grouping less important. I think this is one of the main areas where they can explore niches, inwards radial knockback would be cool since it affects big Vishaps etc., grouping on different elements, just a straight up dmg share onto a marked target.
I’m scared they won’t ever give abilities that sidestep grouping like trikarma ever again. I’m glad for my Kazuha because my two ways of dealing with aoe is Kazuha and Nahida.
Grouping is still important. Nahida does not make it less important. rather, she consolidate some missing damage but not by much.
@@exiaax Yeah, can't count on anything, sadly. A dmg share would also be a sick way to make single-target characters more versatile btw.
Let's say it shares 100% of the dmg for simplicity, vs. 2 enemies: A character that's already doing 2x dmg now only grows from 2x to 3x, whereas a single-target dmg dealer just doubles their very high 1x.
100% sounds very broken vs. exactly 2 targets, but the same principle holds up with lower multipliers. This'd be very nice for all those double-boss setups, no more suffering trying to keep them together, in my dreams anyway.
Bonus points if they can be a driver with characters like Xinqiu, Fischl, Yelan and probably an Anemo, maybe hyperbloom or even aggravate/spread
@@nanathedelta8561 It depends, there are niche cases where it will carry though, like the burning team Zajef mentioned in this video, there are also cases where it does next to nothing
I do also count her E's personal dmg towards this btw., since that is also not dependent on grouping and adds to the same quality
Nahida + Yelan makes grouping useless most of times ^^
no character in this game is really a must have tbf unless you want them, but if there were any must have characters, nahida would 100% be 1 of them.
Nahida on Favonius come on man. Come on.
take a shot every time he says "generally"
Really the only downside of Nahida is that if you keep killing waves of enemies too quick, your E might still be on cooldown for the next wave of enemies, especially if you hold her skill. This is bad when you would want to off-field her.
i think people overestimate how bad this actually is, your skill has barely any CD and you can run sac frags on her if this is such massive issue, her skill is like 6 seconds CD anyway lol, you dont kill anything that quickly usually
whale problems lmao
I think it's more like if you have a unit that needs a lot of field time (AKA Cyno), waves of enemies are inconvenient because you'll need to switch out early in order to refresh Nahida's dendro application
@@Nightcrawl7 it's only a big issue in combat events since nowadays we are clearing waves
this is only annoying in cyno teams/events where you get bugfed to high heaven and you kill each wave in a second
The only hour that fly's like a 5 minutes
Anyone that gets her will vastly improve their account. I literally need a 2nd one for the amount of teams she's on and ease of use and is best at what she does
Every time I play Nahida as a Trial event character, I tend to get her killed.
I’m just gonna say she isn’t a must pull but there is literally 0 negatives and she’s adorable. have not regretted it
Always appreciate an hour long video even if I already know the answer to this question
to be fair tho that's more of a problem with cyno than with nahida imo
Don't pull a character that you're not sure yet because you don't think twice if you really need/love the character.
I think her c2 only gets better as more dendro/electro characters get released. (Maybe even hydro characters.) The defense shred on quicken is insane and the ocasional crits on bloom reactions is something that's unique to her c2. It's like having a global constellation on any of dendro related reaction teams. Quite worth it if you are a light spender like myself. (But please don't feel forced to spend money for a free game)
If you don't have Nahida, get Nahida or else you're throwing.
if by a "must pull" you mean a character that is really strong, easy to build, that will make your life in genshin easier, plus help you beat abyss, plus harvest things from far away, then Nahida is a "must pull".
if you mean in the literal sense, then no, you don't HAVE to pull her, it's crazy but you don't actually have to wish on her banner and play her.
Omg that last part is so funny I love it
Just for reference, in honkai impact 3 for any1 who played it, try looking at the top 100 in arena with every player using the same characters and with full gacha gear on specific bosses. Or even without looking at the top 100, try clearing it with whatever f2p setup and see if like you can get 46080pts on SSS-dificulty which is like the "36-star" on arena at least to get all the base rewards. That is what you'd call a must pull, and not necessarily saying that it's pay2win or you need to whale but pulling on the right characters or gear for current state of meta hi3rd is in.
Genshin just doesn't have that level of competition or even difficulty, to clear endgame it's simply just "beat floor 12 every chamber in under 3mins" for the full rewards, and a lot of the characters even with 4-star teams only are good enough with the right investment. There is basically a lot more flexibility in building teams and it doesn't matter if you clear 30-secs faster with a meta team than a non-meta team since you get the same rewards as long as it's cleared under 3-mins. Technically there isn't a "must pull" character, but there are high value pull characters that if you own would make life easier but at the same time the game doesn't restrict your progress if you don't own these specific characters.
i had to use proto amber nahida on someone's acc 😬 wasnt confident i could survive 12 2 against husks and geo rock waves
Nahida is kind of cringe for a salad team, but I still like playing Nahida, Fischl, Kazuha, Barbara. When it works it's a fun team, but the DPS isn't always enough to 36 star the abyss.
truly one of the dendro characters of all time
I'm a launch player and decided for the first time to go for cons because theyre will be no more new worthy units till 4.0 and kinda tired of getting new units just to deal the same damage but in a bit different way. Like, I have a lot of great 5 and 4 star units so that they'll probably last me for years to come and I still will be doing great in Abyss unless HYV change something and decide to powercreep.
Going for her c2 for big pp damage because I've been literally using her hyperbloom team nonstop since her release. Even if 4.0 will be non-dendro version, I still won't feel bad about getting this boss of a unit to c2.
she might be green, but she definitely a drug. after i played her i can't play any other dendro without getting disappointed.
"Constellations and weapons are basically the same thing" and her my friends why he is biased asf, and doesn't know how the game actually works. Surely Ganyu's C6 (which id such a qql improvement) === R5 her BiS weapon, surely Hu Tao C1-C3 is the same as staff of Homa. Ofc, Cons make you do less damage, but they transform your gameplay and allow for different teams, etc.
Early congrats to 80k subs
Nahida the best 3.X unit released and one of the best 5* in the game
Everyone hold hands :D
That would be alhaitham
@@tscolicious nah. alhaitham is really good but nahida is definitely the better unit and is more valuable out of the two
how is this an argument when alhaitham and nahida are the 2 best 5* characters of 3.0 id say nahida is no 1 then 2nd to him is alhaitham but both is really meta and op
Grow grow grow
@@akayuki2964 Both are good. Can't expect a DPS to compete against an archon in terms of utility but they both excel at their jobs
Thank you for this ask zajef, I was wondering if I should really pull her. But then I remembered that I wanna play hyperbloom ayato and I wanted to play my cyno lol