Thank you Bishop Porter for standing on THE WORD OF GOD. We know that we are living in the time where right is considered wrong and wrong is considered right (ref. ISAIAH 5:20). Deliverance from the vices of the enemy is a blessing for those who seek it.
That's the problem! Everybody can say what they want about their beliefs, but once "the church" speaks on its beliefs, they're judgmental and hateful ..SMH Everyone says whatever they want about Christians and we have to sit here and take it, not so! The LGBT community may have the government and laws backing them, but the true church, (Bible believing ones that teach in love and truth) has the ultimate judge, JESUS CHRIST backing them! Every church don't teach out of hatred and judgement, but there are those that will stand on the word of God no matter what oppositions are made! God Bless and thanks Bishop for speaking with integrity and truth.
Issue is if you dish it.... take it. Vice verse. The church thought they were proving a point. Back fire. They need to work on discernment and hear God as well as getting out of self. Carter stated his personal wishes. Not God. Carter said "I wish". Ummmm personal.
Sorry DeeDee, but the fact is that Jesus will judge the church MORE harshly than anyone outside the church...read about the sheep and the goats. you, dear sister, are in danger of acting like one of the goats. Remember that the sheep and the goats both didn't have a clue why they were chosen for each. The "least of these" are people who are marginalised, mostly by the religiously powerful. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, and the LBGT community, in as much as any members show love to the least of these, and they do...will be miles ahead of their critics.
And the church has the money and the cars and the big mansions and luxury items and tax exemptions and all the sin backing them too. See Benny Hinn, Ted Haggard...
DeeDee Thompson We have been hearing the church's beliefs for hundreds of years! They are always out and about passing out pamphlets and openly sharing their beliefs on the corner. There's an overflow of Christian churches all over America and there are more Christian programs on TV than any other! So we have been getting drowned in Christian brainwashing and propaganda and now there's a growing backlash. Not just because Christianity is no longer serving our people but because of all of the hypocrisy with those who claim to be 'Saints of God" and we all know that that's a lie from hell with most of them.
Lia Atkinson Exactly, and with the overflow and all this "Praying" why is it not working to their prayers? The world should be awesome by now. Everything they have been praying away since the beginning of time should be obsolete.
Wow.....Lamont...super job...great interview...you showed much class......respect.......Bishop Porter....Man, of God.....You represented the Kingdom in a dynamic way......
I REALLY appreciate the fact the Bishop Porter preached the WHOLE gospel, and the ENTIRE Biblical Message! Thank you Bishop Brandon Porter. We were ALL born in sin and shaped in iniquity. And the reason why Jesus Christ came into the world was to transform all of us into new creations! THE GOSPEL MESSAGE!
I am so glad Bishop Brandon Porter was able to be interviewed about Andrew Caldwell, and he stood up for what the Bible teaches about Sin, and never Reprimanded Supt Earl Carter, The Preachers that talked like Supt Earl Carter are gone on now to be with the Lord, they said it just like the Bible wrote it whether you liked it or not. like he said the Bible teaches we all have Sin and come short of the Glory of God, but we make choices to either follow God Word or Reject it. God love all of His Creations, but Sin will not be excepted into the Kingdom of Heaven 1 Corinthians 6:9
Nobody is judging the homosexual, If you want to live that life style, live it! God is the one that will judge us all. BUT! just don't shove the life style down our throats. and get mad and call people names if they don't agree, or Preachers preach on what God said in the Word of God who and who will not see the Kingdom of Heaven,
I am not judging. I just asked a question. there is no little sin or big sin, Sin is sin. now if you search the Scriptures, Jesus is clear that Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexual offenders will see the kingdom of Heaven, just read 1 Corinthians 6:9
Well we can not speak for every Preacher, I am sure some Preacher are touching on all Sin, It's just that if you say anything about Homosexuality all hell breaks loose, God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah because of Homosexual acts, Preachers have to preach on this life styles God will hold Men of the Clergy accountable.
First of all Children are a blessing in the sight of God however they come into this World, I would rather these Mom have these babies then to aboard them. Children are not a Sin, Second of all babies have nothing to do with Homosexuality, Homosexuality is a Sin no matter how you excuse it. But! God still loves the Homosexual He just don't love the Sin. I also understand some people struggle with that life style and and some want to be set free, and some love the lifestyle they are living, which God is the only one they have to answer to. but as far as people being bully and attack for that life style I don't agree. Well when Christ returns I wish everyone the best. Jesus said he is coming back for a Church without a spot or wrinkle.
Dr. Earl Carter told the truth!!! God does not like homosexuality!!! It didn't sound like he was bitter. God made Adam and a suitable mate for him eas Eve. That was a great night of deliverance.
I appreciate Lamonte's respect during the interview. Although he didn't agree with everything Bishop Porter was saying, he at least let him speak. You don't see that often. Kudos to both for a professional interview!
Oh man....Brandon Porter did a great job of explaining my disposition of not just homosexuality but sin itself. All of us are born into sin ,....thievery, adultery, lying, gossiping, fornication, greediness, etc.....we all need to get better for the furthering of humanity as well as our families and ourselves.
I believe that Bishop Porter spoke well of the situation. I have had Pastor Carter preach for me also in Memphis. You always have to know what the spirit of the person that you are placing before the people of God. We must not take everything out of context. It is imperative that we pray.
I grew up COGIC and I heard far worse at church and even at home. They say they preach love, but many of the leaders believe that sometimes love hurts and will be harsh and offensive. They've been doing this for years. It's what they believe. Now there are pastors that are mild mannered, however this attitude is the classic attitude I grew up seeing often. I hope they take this as a learning lesson. They can believe what they want to believe- that's something I cannot force anyone to change. However, when it comes the treatment of individuals they can learn from this. If you go off the philosophy that homosexuals need to be delivered then they know that deliverance is NOT an overnight thing. Just like how many of them beat their wives, abuse children, and commit adultery- those people who did these things pleaded with the idea that it takes time to change. Okay. If homosexuality can be changed then don't expect it to be an overnight thing. Of course a truly gay person cannot be changed but that is another discussion....
So you know, Pastor was referring to those men who "desire" women like qualities. If that's the case the menstrual cycle shouldn't be an issue to endure (bleeding)...he was focusing on the feminist qualities that men seek to display.. note the walking, the dressing, etc...he was being real & factual. I don't get y a man would wanna try be like a girl period. And then he made it general that homosexuality IS wrong.
Ministers need to understand that they show so much hate towards the homosexuals by being harsh, disrespectful and mean. The best way to change a sinner is by showing love and care. Most pastors just don't know how to reach certain sinners, if it's something they consider disgusting they speak as worldly men do.
i do feel and beleive that God can remove. all. things that isnt of him and that you choose to let go out a person life ...How ever i do know. that the God i serve love us. unconditionally in spite of our. life choices as well. So i say what ever a person is going threw in there life that they feel there Struggling with Take it To God and i peomise you kerp the faith and there will be peace with n your self and your life
I grew up in church COGIC/PAW/UPC all my life. Both of my parents were preachers. And one thing I learned from watching my parents generation (70's-80's) this particular church-going generation made their pastors their god! They never challenged or studied for themselves they just lived and repeated whatever their pastor told them to do--it didn't matter if it was true or not! FEAR of rejection! Welcome to the Generation of (90's-00's) the Berean generation (Acts 17:11) coming up in church--we will ask questions, we will study for OURSELVES, we choose a personal relationship with God over religion, over pharisaical and man-made laws! So yes we will question and challenge any person who says they are a "representative/ambassador" for God! No matter what denomination or organization you come from. I pray my generation and PK's will continue to expose the hatred that is behind the doors of SOME churches. As a PK, I absolutely REFUSE to fund or sit under ANY ignorant and hateful teaching, of any kind, in any church. If I don't leave the church wanting to seek God for greater understanding and revelation towards love to ALL MANKIND! Then I have the right to no longer attend and fund that pastor/church/organization/denomination. I choose LOVE and UNDERSTANDING not FEAR and HATE!! I will never subject my step-children to the same ignorance my parents ignorantly subjected me to.
folks (and the media) get on my nerves sometimes! clearly this person's testimony was a bit funny, but it wasn't outrageous. the man believed he was delivered and believe that his life-style wasn't right in the eyes of God. #simple! but it's jacked-up that so many people are condemning him because of how he articulated that "he don't wanna be gay anymore." he does not want to sleep with men. i think it was courageous and bold, and that only deserves some type of encouragement (especially) from Christians. Bishop Brandon Porter- well said. Reporter - boooooooooo.
I feel for this young man. I wasted most of my youth totally miserable,pleading with God to "deliver" me for being gay. I would bet this isn't this young man's first time going to the alter and it won't be his last. Why? Because you cannot help who you find sexually beautiful & attractive. God's not going to change that. The sad truth is that many young men in his position truly want to give their lives to the Lord but find themselves feeling abandoned by the church & God because the church wants to remain true to poorly handled scripture& pure stupidity.
In my eyes the pastor did his job,now its up to the guy to continue in God ,God uses the strangest things,and ppl,for his Glory.Gods purpose,He used a prostitute,a lyer,and a killer on a horse knocked the beegeezeez out of him,God gets the glory,Amen
He interviewed well but he couldn't escape that other pastors comments. I'm as uncomfortable with homosexuality as the next man. But that was some twisted hate speech that came from him. Tried to get God to cast a spell on the gays lol.
+Devonte Kruger It amazes me when you heterosexuals can explain something you've never lived. IT IS NOT A CHOICE. HOWEVER HOW YOU LIVE WITH IT IS A CHOICE. As a same gender loving man, I don't dress up like a woman, nor do I participate in "Gay Pride". I've chosen to live celibate and have no desire to have some man living with me. Marriage to me is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. I refuse to call another man my husband or wife. I don't do gar bars either. I'm still a born again believer in Jesus Christ.
+SJ CII, Brother I support you. You are right, I don't understand as I am a heterosexual woman. It must be very difficult to truly feel that you were born this way yet you have to fight against what you feel is natural on a daily basis. We all battle with sin and no sin is bigger than the other. You have been saved and you know that there is nothing too hard for God.
I appreciate your boldness and discipline! I really do. The one Q I have though is if you are a believer, and won't live in some of the 'typical' ways gay people do, why continue to call yourself same gender loving? Have you just submitted yourself to the idea that God will never change your desires or do you not want them changed? I sincerely want to understand that. God bless you!!
i am glad Bishop did that and i think that Superintendent need to be sat down, he said God legalized homosexuallity somebody should have cut his mic off. God dont legalize and sin he has no part in sin. And God word is not ignorate. God do not need our vocabulary to try and change people because we will sound just like that Supt. Earl Carter, let the word do the changing. Hebrews 4: 12 says: For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Sin is sin all of it and todays time hardly no one should be able to do anything in the church ecause of all type of sins thats going on. People need to just preach the word the real word and not speak from self. It was alot of thing that Supt. said that was not biblical and it got me that he said that God legallized homosexallity that throw me Our god dont deal in sin period he has nothing to do with it. And for al u who said he was right then god bless you, but lets just pray for each other, for the bible says in the last day that man with speak for them selves and he said there is a way that seems right to them, but not. lets study the word ourselves. let god word do the convicting not us and again god vocabulary was no where in that sermon
Bishop Blake rebuked Earl Carter but gave Brandon Porter a pass. Why didn't Brandon Porter stop Earl Carter if he was wrong. Porter was there. Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is shameful, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was fitting.
Just found this review, and as a woman of God and the many of gay man that have spoken to me, my God church get back to the Bible and praying. A lot of what the man of God said about things that happened around some of the men and wemen of the lgb life is more true then we want to believe because of the world want lus to know. But everyone that's told me his story is because of his life that was behind him, and his choice (how ever in the acts of passion everyone said that something would let him know that it was wrong). Move in love and maybe in Gods love you can help someone to understand the way to righteousness, in God
People stop being so judgmental. It was his choice to want to change and because of that you attack him??? You don't kick someone when they are down. The word of God convicted him and lots of others that were there too. Ask God for deliverance and he will do that but you have to have the desire to change, he won't force you to do it, he won't force his way in, you have to let him in.
I've been in COGIC my entire life and I think this whole thing was disgraceful. What Earl Carter did was distasteful and there will be a big fall out from this and he will be standing on his own. Hate the sin, love the sinner. I've never read in the bible once where Christ disdained someone for their sins. It was utter bafoonary and leaves a bad stinch on COGIG. We all know that the bible teaches that homosexuality is wrong but so is leaving your wife and marrying your girlfriend or having a wife and a girlfriend but I dont EVER hear them speaking on that. EVER. I personally know a pastor who was recently elevated to a bishop after he had left his wife and married his girlfriend. Why is that sin ok but the other not? Is it because that's not their particular sin of choice? I promise you that neither Brandon Porter, nor Earl Carter will contact this young man after the convention is over to check on him and see how he's progressing or try and mentor him through this transition in his life. It doesnt matter if someone outside of the church made the video and posted it, Pastor Carter should not have said what he said. Period.
One white person can't speak for ALL whites, one black person can't speak for ALL blacks - just like one gay person can't speak for the entire gay community. Everyone must be accountable for THEIR individual actions. Bishop Porter expressed that the message that Rev. Carter spoke on does NOT represent the views of the many individual Pastors that are connected to that organization OR the entire Christian faith. It is not fair to say otherwise. Clearly he (Porter) has a different approach than Carter. I believe he was sincere and as an individual he is entitled to HIS own option of the matter and we should NOT JUDGE the stand he has taken. I disagree with the choice of words that Rev. Carter used; however to tie Bishop Porter and the organization to what he said is totally not fair - especially when I have witness the love and kindness that many of these pastor have used to touch their local communities.
That bleeding out the butt statement was extremely mean, I agree. He should not have said that at all. However, that doesn't meant God can't and won't deliver from homosexuality if a person desires to be free from that. Also, God DOES love us all as we are, but He doesn't want us to stay as we are. That's where people get it mixed up. Ex. We love our family and friends as they are, but desire to see things changed in their lives at times. That does not abolish love, but it means we want to see a different life for them.
Pastor Carter responded to the wickedness happening at the Holy Convocation. It is offensive to go into God's house and boldly strut your sin. When a man comes into the house of God wearing make-up, pumps and carrying a purse you are flaunting your sin in the face of God. That 's the difference with homosexuality and other sins. They have no shame and want other people to endorse their sin. A drug addict would not come into God's house and smoke crack and not expect to be called out. If you are not trying to follow Jesus then the Bible does not apply to you so live your life and do what you feel. However, if you call yourself a Christian than don't bring your mess into God's house and get offended when it is called out. 1 Peter 4:17 says judgement will begin at the house of God. God is going to judge His house before He judges the world. If some of you never judge wrong behavior then I would hate to encounter your children.
"flaunting your sin..." really? I understand what you are saying---but you speak from a perspective of not understanding what "homosexuality" is. First of all, wearing clothing and/or accessories associated with the opposite gender is a gender issue and doesn't mean that person is having sex...because it's the SEX that is what worries everybody, isn't it? What about the very st8 appearing and acting men who are gay. Are they flaunting as well? Oh..you just can't see what they do, right? "They have no shame"....really? But I bet those ministers and church administrators who stand before you...yet are having all kinds of secret lives outside the church...do they not have shame? Oh...but you can't see what they do, right? Reading your comment, I get the distinct impression that "visuals" and outward acts really upset you. Boldly strutting....flaunting...are words expressing your disgust.
More people need to preach like that. What he said was true. Anal sex can and will make you bleed out of your butt. Love hurts. Why does the phrase "Tough Love exist". If he preached like that and the young man was convicted and delivered that's probably why. This is why the church is in a mess now. Nobody wants to speak the truth anymore.
Tough love: All the man is trying to say is that men were created to be men and women are created to be women. Women go threw a lot, cycles, birthing pains, sore breast, back pain due to pregnancy and we have a higher level of stress. Men go threw blue balls and whatever else. If you could truly walk in each others shoes would you?
I thought that the Bishop was really forthcoming and spoke very knowledgeably about this subject. I also thought he expressed his position on homosexuality through his faith really well. However!!! The Im not gay no more thing is still one of thee funniest things EVER on the intranets. Especially when ol dude made a song out of it. Hysterical. U cant take the hilarity away from it. From mens to the purse shit to the end when he goes: women, women, women, women hhdaiudiud hhahdasds. Lmao. Shit will never get old
It's a holiness church. Why insist that your way trump the holiness way in their church? This isn't a "black" church. It's the largest black denomination but it is a HOLINESS church. The focus being directed at Gays was not the doings of the church but rather GAYS who came to the convocation and decided to share it, in disrespect for Holiness beliefs in that church.
Lamont has lost the little respect I once had for him. What's with the generalization of questions for Bishop Porter as if the church is wrong for not condoning any sin, including homosexuality.
Yes smartdave599, it is ALL sin -----> and Jesus saves from ALL sin. The Bible is still true when it says "Without holiness no man shall see the Lord."
Ecclesiasticus 12:6 For the most High hateth sinners, and will repay vengeance unto the ungodly, and keepeth them against the mighty day of their punishment. People please read the Bible for yourself and stop listening to these blind guides.
he said that the church of god in christ has been in existence for 100 and something yrs. the bible says that the church that Jesus founded has been in existence for 2000 yrs so i ask you sir is cogic the church that we read about in our bibles
"We are the largest predominantly black Christian Church in the world". That is great I guess but does that somehow mean that it is the one true Church?
This Porter person is full of it. He knows that jackass "preaching" that night was completely out of line. He also knows very well many COGIC preachers have been guilty of making similar comments in their "sermons". Every preacher in the black church knows all they have to do is start chopping off the heads of gay people to get the folks on their feet. Doesn't matter how offensive, ignorant or irresponsible the comments are because they believe God has their back. This is the circus environment in which God fearing gays have to make sense of their struggle.
That was very unerving to watch, that person with the bow tie at the beginning "I'm not gay no more" holy shit, fooled me. So many why's I wanna ask but not enough time. Scary shit.
I can tell you something else….. Which is never addressed. Why are so many men and women attending these convocations without their spouses? I've heard all about the mess that goes on behind closed doors. So many in attendance so fornication and adultery goes on in these big fancy hotels but no one knows about it.
Marco it may have not been a "loving climate" but we don't come to church for formality or to perform in accordance with ritual customs doctrines or traditional etiquette,suitable for or constituting an official or occasion.......We didn't water down the issue,it was the media critics that was airing out the dirty laundry on the black community
Would this be an issue if he said he was delivered from drug addiction or from being violent? As for that minister who referred to women and their monthly cycle, I found that to be disrespectful and crude. Not words that need to be said in the church service.
Regardless of what point the preacher was trying to make, his statements were totally uncalled for and totally out of line. Holiness is right but hate rhetoric across the pulpit is NOT holiness. You can't preach holy principles with an unholy prejudice.
Principles in general create prejudice. He was not out of line, he spoke the bible and chose daily life application. It might have been graphic but public television is too and you still watch it.
lol. Which is fair for you to say. Sissy is a sub component of homosexual which he did say. You never know what you're going to say until the mic's in your hand and you are really led by the Lord. Jerimiah was more harsh than this man!
While I understand that, I'll never be convinced that the Lord led him to the "bleed out of their butts" rhetoric. Even he said "I wish God would make them...." His thoughts. Not God's.
Jeremiah Worrell I agree with everything you've said. I used to like watching/listening to G. Greg Lewis ("The Truth Behind Hip Hop) who was always talking about "Holiness" and "The old-time way", but most of his "ministry was gossip and slander of other well-known preachers and calling homosexuals out of their names. I fond it hard to see the "ministry" in what he was doing, because it seemed like more Showtime at The Apollo than anything. I heard more "Sissies" this and "gay" that coming out of his mouth--in a few sermons than I've ever heard in my entire life. It was evident that this man was filled with hate and prejudice. And when I heard Earl Carter speak, I got the same dark, negative, oppressive vibe from him.
Joseph McHenry He likes women that is clear He didn’t lie! He doesn’t like men’s no more! He told the truth! The deliverance is the fact that he can stand and openly admit his dislike of men and his like for women! So the service
Bishop Porter had a great deal of nerve to blast people who are mocking or making fun of this "gay conversion" situation and the young man's "choice" to leave the "gay lifestyle." The Pastor, from the clip, did nothing but mock, make fun of and verbally attack LGBT people. The message that came from that pastor's sermon was one of hate and one that told LGBT people who have faith in Jesus Christ that you are not welcome here.
Duane Mc'Cowen bro there are to many gays in churches thinking they are ok and will enter heaven it's time for these preachers to stop sugar coating that particular sin and give it straight because a lot of souls are living that life believing it's ok and when they die they are lifting there eyes open in hell.....no disrespect....
Brandon is low down for supporting tgat preacher being hateful and saying those words... and I'm a church member of Brandon and I want be going back...
There's a difference between wanting to be and being delivered. He was not delivered. God doesn't half step. He is going to fully heal you or He isn't at all. Why would He delivered this guy from homosexuality, but leaves everything about him that is associated with homosexuality. This guy sounds more womanish than an actually woman, not to mention his mannerism. It doesn't add up to the God I know and serve. That's like God healing someone of cancer, but will leave the tumor. It doesn't make sense.
This dude made a spectacle of himself when he decided to make a mockery of God and of the church. It was very comical. This guy has used God for his own personal gain.
Andrew only gets beat up because he starts mess with other ppl but now 2019 Bishop Porter knows how Andrew is he goes live on Facebook acting a pure fool
God new then with sodom,sin is sin.God knows now,and sooner or later,it will come to surfice,be it big or small once you confess he will cleans you of all unrightousness.plus some sin are more revealing than others,obviously he's the obvious one.The black church fakes it to make it.Holliness is still right ppl
I'm a believer. But this is too much for me to grasp. The way he said how he dont like mens no mo. And how he like wimins. Wimins wimins wimins. Then all of a sudden he said he was cold and started shivering. Thats was a bit dramatic to me. If he say he lije wimins does not mean he is saved all of a sudden. And what real woman want an ex sissy
Then did anyone catch him self-promoting his sons book in the middle of this agenda... WOW!!! A shame before God. No way in God's green earth can I condone such...
Well I see you on CNN Marc and now your other Gig. It is Paul who discusses Homosexuality in The New Testament. I do agree it is interesting Jesus did not speak of it head on. The question is, do you believe The Whole Bible is God inspired?
The Virtual Church of the Disillusioned, Depressed, and Downtrodden Well, if you had read the scriptures, you would see that Jesus specifically addressed emphatically that a marriage in the eyes of GOD( He is GOD) is between a man and a woman and anything else less than that is not in His will. Everything else is just what it is, sin.
I don't disagree, yet I would tell the person struggling with Homosexuality to draw closer to God and not to Heretic Hunters who just like to Condemn and Question other people's Faith. We all sin and MANY MANY Christians have had Bisexual thoughts. The people who do this are Often Very shallow Spiritually.
Well, that's all I can do is to show them the Way of the Cross and give them the Word of GOD pertaining to whatever subject matter or issue that they may struggle with and I leave the rest up to them.
Pastor Carter was out of bounds...he's just one individual not the entire church. Bottom line most of this religious expression are in the flesh anyway...that's how they got caught up thus the expression was founded in flesh...not the Spirit.
To allow that pastor to preach that hate and so vulgar on your platform is ridiculous and I would have had more respect if the head had of stepped in and corrected it right then.
He is and it's sad. The preachers think they can say whatever they wanna say and before people start getting mad at my comment, I'm cogic. The lack respect they have for someone is ridiculous. Maybe this will teach him to not be so flipped mouth. My pastor is a Genera Board Member for The Church and I've never once in the past 40+ years that I've known him, ever humiliate anyone or say anything so shameful. Trust me, once the lawsuits start rolling in, Earl Carter will be standing alone to deal with it.
Neneham1966 Thank you. Sadly they don't want to be accountable. Now they are the victim. Really? I am amazed folks don't get that part. They don't tell all the straight people you hope they catch a disease do they?. They don't tell an alcoholic you hope they get alcohol poison do they? They did not go out in the street amongst the gang bangers and talk all that heavy talk? Why because it is rude, disrespectful, insensitive, wishing ill upon folks. You don't just straight talk down to folks like you are chastising your child at home. The young man might have wanted deliverance or he could have been ticked that this preacher would say such a thing as he sit there with a bow tie on...... and decide to turn things upside down. He will be the only one to really know. But, my point is you can push folks away doing too much and Carter went overboard. I would have walked out hearing something like that and I am not gay. I have fellowship with cogic, cooljc, pentecostal ect. Folks need to get back in tune and get that discernment and other things back in order. Folks are blind to themselves slipping and don't want to be accountable.
I agree. I'm not gay either and carter did go to far. He did this same thing 12 years ago and was told he'd never speak at the Cogic Convention.again and what did he do the minute they gave him a second chance? He opened his big mouth again. He's his own worst enemy. What about the the scripture that says "let your words be few and seasoned with grace". Maybe a big fat law suit and losing his 501C3 will help bridle his tongue since he cant seem to do it on his own.
Who says this mess!!! That is not Christlike at all! Hateful rhetoric! He might want to look at his own closet! Since he protesting so much. Let God judge
You all teased him first calling him and others sissies, toys r us...... wishing blood out of their butts. THAT IS RUDE AND FOUL! because of the bow tie. STOP!!! Trying to change things around. ACCOUNTABILITY!! The church was disrespectful FIRST. Money is not the issue here, but I guess.
It’s increasingly difficult to sound reasonable when what you believe is based in mythology. It was funny listening to Porter pretend to be moderate while pushing the same disproved, anti-intellectual ideas as Carter. Otherwise, this exercise was a waste of time.
Brandon Porter was in itself trying to be a show-off you don't call nobody off of the order and give them no mic and it convention that large random party is a homosexual and he should be ashamed of himself Church of God in Christ isn't the Church of God in Christ that Bishop Mason started
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I'm so grateful for this video. Thank you Bishop for speaking out!
Thank you Bishop Porter for standing on THE WORD OF GOD. We know that we are living in the time where right is considered wrong and wrong is considered right (ref. ISAIAH 5:20). Deliverance from the vices of the enemy is a blessing for those who seek it.
That's the problem! Everybody can say what they want about their beliefs, but once "the church" speaks on its beliefs, they're judgmental and hateful ..SMH
Everyone says whatever they want about Christians and we have to sit here and take it, not so! The LGBT community may have the government and laws backing them, but the true church, (Bible believing ones that teach in love and truth) has the ultimate judge, JESUS CHRIST backing them! Every church don't teach out of hatred and judgement, but there are those that will stand on the word of God no matter what oppositions are made!
God Bless and thanks Bishop for speaking with integrity and truth.
Issue is if you dish it.... take it. Vice verse. The church thought they were proving a point. Back fire. They need to work on discernment and hear God as well as getting out of self. Carter stated his personal wishes. Not God. Carter said "I wish". Ummmm personal.
Sorry DeeDee, but the fact is that Jesus will judge the church MORE harshly than anyone outside the church...read about the sheep and the goats. you, dear sister, are in danger of acting like one of the goats. Remember that the sheep and the goats both didn't have a clue why they were chosen for each. The "least of these" are people who are marginalised, mostly by the religiously powerful. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, and the LBGT community, in as much as any members show love to the least of these, and they do...will be miles ahead of their critics.
And the church has the money and the cars and the big mansions and luxury items and tax exemptions and all the sin backing them too. See Benny Hinn, Ted Haggard...
DeeDee Thompson We have been hearing the church's beliefs for hundreds of years! They are always out and about passing out pamphlets and openly sharing their beliefs on the corner. There's an overflow of Christian churches all over America and there are more Christian programs on TV than any other! So we have been getting drowned in Christian brainwashing and propaganda and now there's a growing backlash. Not just because Christianity is no longer serving our people but because of all of the hypocrisy with those who claim to be 'Saints of God" and we all know that that's a lie from hell with most of them.
Lia Atkinson
Exactly, and with the overflow and all this "Praying" why is it not working to their prayers? The world should be awesome by now. Everything they have been praying away since the beginning of time should be obsolete.
Wow.....Lamont...super job...great interview...you showed much class......respect.......Bishop Porter....Man, of God.....You represented the Kingdom in a dynamic way......
I REALLY appreciate the fact the Bishop Porter preached the WHOLE gospel, and the ENTIRE Biblical Message! Thank you Bishop Brandon Porter. We were ALL born in sin and shaped in iniquity. And the reason why Jesus Christ came into the world was to transform all of us into new creations! THE GOSPEL MESSAGE!
I am so glad Bishop Brandon Porter was able to be interviewed about Andrew Caldwell, and he stood up for what the Bible teaches about Sin, and never Reprimanded Supt Earl Carter, The Preachers that talked like Supt Earl Carter are gone on now to be with the Lord, they said it just like the Bible wrote it whether you liked it or not. like he said the Bible teaches we all have Sin and come short of the Glory of God, but we make choices to either follow God Word or Reject it. God love all of His Creations, but Sin will not be excepted into the Kingdom of Heaven 1 Corinthians 6:9
Nobody is judging the homosexual, If you want to live that life style, live it! God is the one that will judge us all. BUT! just don't shove the life style down our throats. and get mad and call people names if they don't agree, or Preachers preach on what God said in the Word of God who and who will not see the Kingdom of Heaven,
You are going all the way on left field, answer me this can two men have a baby? There is a reason God made Adam and Eve for pro creation
I am not judging. I just asked a question. there is no little sin or big sin, Sin is sin. now if you search the Scriptures, Jesus is clear that Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexual offenders will see the kingdom of Heaven, just read 1 Corinthians 6:9
Well we can not speak for every Preacher, I am sure some Preacher are touching on all Sin, It's just that if you say anything about Homosexuality all hell breaks loose, God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah because of Homosexual acts, Preachers have to preach on this life styles God will hold Men of the Clergy accountable.
First of all Children are a blessing in the sight of God however they come into this World, I would rather these Mom have these babies then to aboard them. Children are not a Sin, Second of all babies have nothing to do with Homosexuality, Homosexuality is a Sin no matter how you excuse it. But! God still loves the Homosexual He just don't love the Sin. I also understand some people struggle with that life style and and some want to be set free, and some love the lifestyle they are living, which God is the only one they have to answer to. but as far as people being bully and attack for that life style I don't agree. Well when Christ returns I wish everyone the best. Jesus said he is coming back for a Church without a spot or wrinkle.
Dr. Earl Carter told the truth!!! God does not like homosexuality!!! It didn't sound like he was bitter. God made Adam and a suitable mate for him eas Eve. That was a great night of deliverance.
I am so sick of people saying we are born this way like that justifies anything!
Jesus AnswersOne
Well It does
I appreciate Lamonte's respect during the interview. Although he didn't agree with everything Bishop Porter was saying, he at least let him speak. You don't see that often. Kudos to both for a professional interview!
Oh man....Brandon Porter did a great job of explaining my disposition of not just homosexuality but sin itself. All of us are born into sin ,....thievery, adultery, lying, gossiping, fornication, greediness, etc.....we all need to get better for the furthering of humanity as well as our families and ourselves.
Thank you for standing firm, Bishop.
I believe that Bishop Porter spoke well of the situation. I have had Pastor Carter preach for me also in Memphis. You always have to know what the spirit of the person that you are placing before the people of God. We must not take everything out of context. It is imperative that we pray.
I grew up COGIC and I heard far worse at church and even at home. They say they preach love, but many of the leaders believe that sometimes love hurts and will be harsh and offensive. They've been doing this for years. It's what they believe. Now there are pastors that are mild mannered, however this attitude is the classic attitude I grew up seeing often. I hope they take this as a learning lesson. They can believe what they want to believe- that's something I cannot force anyone to change. However, when it comes the treatment of individuals they can learn from this. If you go off the philosophy that homosexuals need to be delivered then they know that deliverance is NOT an overnight thing. Just like how many of them beat their wives, abuse children, and commit adultery- those people who did these things pleaded with the idea that it takes time to change. Okay. If homosexuality can be changed then don't expect it to be an overnight thing. Of course a truly gay person cannot be changed but that is another discussion....
So you know, Pastor was referring to those men who "desire" women like qualities. If that's the case the menstrual cycle shouldn't be an issue to endure (bleeding)...he was focusing on the feminist qualities that men seek to display.. note the walking, the dressing, etc...he was being real & factual. I don't get y a man would wanna try be like a girl period. And then he made it general that homosexuality IS wrong.
Great response from the Bishop
Thanks Bishop!!! Well spoken!!! Ima get that book as well...
Amen, great response by the Bishop.
GOOD JOB BISHOP BRANDON PORTER...... BLESS YOU!!!
I so agree!
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Ministers need to understand that they show so much hate towards the homosexuals by being harsh, disrespectful and mean. The best way to change a sinner is by showing love and care. Most pastors just don't know how to reach certain sinners, if it's something they consider disgusting they speak as worldly men do.
i do feel and beleive that God can remove. all. things that isnt of him and that you choose to let go out a person life ...How ever i do know. that the God i serve love us. unconditionally in spite of our. life choices as well. So i say what ever a person is going threw in there life that they feel there Struggling with Take it To God and i peomise you kerp the faith and there will be peace with n your self and your life
Holiness is still right .
I grew up in church COGIC/PAW/UPC all my life. Both of my parents were preachers. And one thing I learned from watching my parents generation (70's-80's) this particular church-going generation made their pastors their god! They never challenged or studied for themselves they just lived and repeated whatever their pastor told them to do--it didn't matter if it was true or not! FEAR of rejection! Welcome to the Generation of (90's-00's) the Berean generation (Acts 17:11) coming up in church--we will ask questions, we will study for OURSELVES, we choose a personal relationship with God over religion, over pharisaical and man-made laws! So yes we will question and challenge any person who says they are a "representative/ambassador" for God! No matter what denomination or organization you come from. I pray my generation and PK's will continue to expose the hatred that is behind the doors of SOME churches. As a PK, I absolutely REFUSE to fund or sit under ANY ignorant and hateful teaching, of any kind, in any church. If I don't leave the church wanting to seek God for greater understanding and revelation towards love to ALL MANKIND! Then I have the right to no longer attend and fund that pastor/church/organization/denomination. I choose LOVE and UNDERSTANDING not FEAR and HATE!! I will never subject my step-children to the same ignorance my parents ignorantly subjected me to.
Un defined what is pharisaical? 😂
folks (and the media) get on my nerves sometimes! clearly this person's testimony was a bit funny, but it wasn't outrageous. the man believed he was delivered and believe that his life-style wasn't right in the eyes of God. #simple! but it's jacked-up that so many people are condemning him because of how he articulated that "he don't wanna be gay anymore." he does not want to sleep with men. i think it was courageous and bold, and that only deserves some type of encouragement (especially) from Christians. Bishop Brandon Porter- well said. Reporter - boooooooooo.
Bishop Porter is awesome!!!
I feel for this young man. I wasted most of my youth totally miserable,pleading with God to "deliver" me for being gay. I would bet this isn't this young man's first time going to the alter and it won't be his last. Why? Because you cannot help who you find sexually beautiful & attractive. God's not going to change that. The sad truth is that many young men in his position truly want to give their lives to the Lord but find themselves feeling abandoned by the church & God because the church wants to remain true to poorly handled scripture& pure stupidity.
In my eyes the pastor did his job,now its up to the guy to continue in God ,God uses the strangest things,and ppl,for his Glory.Gods purpose,He used a prostitute,a lyer,and a killer on a horse knocked the beegeezeez out of him,God gets the glory,Amen
Touched by the Truth!
Well said Bishop.
Bishop Porter interviewed well.
He interviewed well but he couldn't escape that other pastors comments. I'm as uncomfortable with homosexuality as the next man. But that was some twisted hate speech that came from him. Tried to get God to cast a spell on the gays lol.
Attraction is a learned quality, so you can't be born anything but what your influenced to be!!!!
+Devonte Kruger Well beautiful women influenced me to be gay when I was a child
+Devonte Kruger It amazes me when you heterosexuals can explain something you've never lived. IT IS NOT A CHOICE. HOWEVER HOW YOU LIVE WITH IT IS A CHOICE. As a same gender loving man, I don't dress up like a woman, nor do I participate in "Gay Pride". I've chosen to live celibate and have no desire to have some man living with me. Marriage to me is ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN. I refuse to call another man my husband or wife. I don't do gar bars either. I'm still a born again believer in Jesus Christ.
+SJ CII, Brother I support you. You are right, I don't understand as I am a heterosexual woman. It must be very difficult to truly feel that you were born this way yet you have to fight against what you feel is natural on a daily basis. We all battle with sin and no sin is bigger than the other. You have been saved and you know that there is nothing too hard for God.
I appreciate your boldness and discipline! I really do. The one Q I have though is if you are a believer, and won't live in some of the 'typical' ways gay people do, why continue to call yourself same gender loving? Have you just submitted yourself to the idea that God will never change your desires or do you not want them changed? I sincerely want to understand that. God bless you!!
i am glad Bishop did that and i think that Superintendent need to be sat down, he said God legalized homosexuallity somebody should have cut his mic off. God dont legalize and sin he has no part in sin. And God word is not ignorate. God do not need our vocabulary to try and change people because we will sound just like that Supt. Earl Carter, let the word do the changing. Hebrews 4: 12 says: For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. Sin is sin all of it and todays time hardly no one should be able to do anything in the church ecause of all type of sins thats going on. People need to just preach the word the real word and not speak from self. It was alot of thing that Supt. said that was not biblical and it got me that he said that God legallized homosexallity that throw me Our god dont deal in sin period he has nothing to do with it. And for al u who said he was right then god bless you, but lets just pray for each other, for the bible says in the last day that man with speak for them selves and he said there is a way that seems right to them, but not. lets study the word ourselves. let god word do the convicting not us and again god vocabulary was no where in that sermon
Bishop Blake rebuked Earl Carter but gave Brandon Porter a pass. Why didn't Brandon Porter stop Earl Carter if he was wrong. Porter was there. Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is shameful, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was fitting.
+horace burns Porter was laughing when Earl Carter said he hope sissies bleed from your but...
Tell the TRUTH and shame the DEVIL...thus says the LORD!
Just found this review, and as a woman of God and the many of gay man that have spoken to me, my God church get back to the Bible and praying. A lot of what the man of God said about things that happened around some of the men and wemen of the lgb life is more true then we want to believe because of the world want lus to know. But everyone that's told me his story is because of his life that was behind him, and his choice (how ever in the acts of passion everyone said that something would let him know that it was wrong). Move in love and maybe in Gods love you can help someone to understand the way to righteousness, in God
All big Bishop need prayer they own self
People stop being so judgmental. It was his choice to want to change and because of that you attack him??? You don't kick someone when they are down. The word of God convicted him and lots of others that were there too. Ask God for deliverance and he will do that but you have to have the desire to change, he won't force you to do it, he won't force his way in, you have to let him in.
I've been in COGIC my entire life and I think this whole thing was disgraceful. What Earl Carter did was distasteful and there will be a big fall out from this and he will be standing on his own. Hate the sin, love the sinner. I've never read in the bible once where Christ disdained someone for their sins. It was utter bafoonary and leaves a bad stinch on COGIG. We all know that the bible teaches that homosexuality is wrong but so is leaving your wife and marrying your girlfriend or having a wife and a girlfriend but I dont EVER hear them speaking on that. EVER. I personally know a pastor who was recently elevated to a bishop after he had left his wife and married his girlfriend. Why is that sin ok but the other not? Is it because that's not their particular sin of choice? I promise you that neither Brandon Porter, nor Earl Carter will contact this young man after the convention is over to check on him and see how he's progressing or try and mentor him through this transition in his life. It doesnt matter if someone outside of the church made the video and posted it, Pastor Carter should not have said what he said. Period.
One white person can't speak for ALL whites, one black person can't speak for ALL blacks - just like one gay person can't speak for the entire gay community. Everyone must be accountable for THEIR individual actions. Bishop Porter expressed that the message that Rev. Carter spoke on does NOT represent the views of the many individual Pastors that are connected to that organization OR the entire Christian faith. It is not fair to say otherwise. Clearly he (Porter) has a different approach than Carter. I believe he was sincere and as an individual he is entitled to HIS own option of the matter and we should NOT JUDGE the stand he has taken. I disagree with the choice of words that Rev. Carter used; however to tie Bishop Porter and the organization to what he said is totally not fair - especially when I have witness the love and kindness that many of these pastor have used to touch their local communities.
Oh I have so much love for #MarcLamontHill !
Sometimes that's a trigger to what was already there. This is what that pastor seems to not understand as well.
ppl WILL get mad at me say I'm wrong....and I don't care!!!
That bleeding out the butt statement was extremely mean, I agree. He should not have said that at all. However, that doesn't meant God can't and won't deliver from homosexuality if a person desires to be free from that. Also, God DOES love us all as we are, but He doesn't want us to stay as we are. That's where people get it mixed up. Ex. We love our family and friends as they are, but desire to see things changed in their lives at times. That does not abolish love, but it means we want to see a different life for them.
Pastor Carter responded to the wickedness happening at the Holy Convocation. It is offensive to go into God's house and boldly strut your sin. When a man comes into the house of God wearing make-up, pumps and carrying a purse you are flaunting your sin in the face of God. That 's the difference with homosexuality and other sins. They have no shame and want other people to endorse their sin. A drug addict would not come into God's house and smoke crack and not expect to be called out. If you are not trying to follow Jesus then the Bible does not apply to you so live your life and do what you feel. However, if you call yourself a Christian than don't bring your mess into God's house and get offended when it is called out. 1 Peter 4:17 says judgement will begin at the house of God. God is going to judge His house before He judges the world. If some of you never judge wrong behavior then I would hate to encounter your children.
I agree with calling win out, but some of those comments were mean spirited, like bleeding out the butt.
*sin
"flaunting your sin..." really? I understand what you are saying---but you speak from a perspective of not
understanding what "homosexuality" is. First of all, wearing clothing and/or accessories associated with the opposite gender is a gender issue and doesn't mean that person is having sex...because it's the SEX that is what worries everybody, isn't it? What about the very st8 appearing and acting men who are gay. Are they flaunting as well? Oh..you just can't see what they do, right? "They have no shame"....really? But I bet those ministers and church administrators who stand before you...yet are having all kinds of secret lives outside the church...do they not have shame? Oh...but you can't see what they do, right? Reading your comment, I get the distinct impression that "visuals" and outward acts really upset you. Boldly strutting....flaunting...are words expressing your disgust.
He is delivered Lmaof...maybe I should start going to church more often they given out free money
More people need to preach like that. What he said was true. Anal sex can and will make you bleed out of your butt. Love hurts. Why does the phrase "Tough Love exist". If he preached like that and the young man was convicted and delivered that's probably why. This is why the church is in a mess now. Nobody wants to speak the truth anymore.
amen sister
Great Job Bishop Porter
Tough love: All the man is trying to say is that men were created to be men and women are created to be women. Women go threw a lot, cycles, birthing pains, sore breast, back pain due to pregnancy and we have a higher level of stress. Men go threw blue balls and whatever else. If you could truly walk in each others shoes would you?
Chelsea Kendrick exactly no woman that wants to be a man has ever asked for blue ball enhancements !
You mean they go "through" a lot. "Threw" is past tense for throw.
I thought that the Bishop was really forthcoming and spoke very knowledgeably about this subject. I also thought he expressed his position on homosexuality through his faith really well. However!!! The Im not gay no more thing is still one of thee funniest things EVER on the intranets. Especially when ol dude made a song out of it. Hysterical. U cant take the hilarity away from it. From mens to the purse shit to the end when he goes: women, women, women, women hhdaiudiud hhahdasds. Lmao. Shit will never get old
It's a holiness church. Why insist that your way trump the holiness way in their church? This isn't a "black" church. It's the largest black denomination but it is a HOLINESS church. The focus being directed at Gays was not the doings of the church but rather GAYS who came to the convocation and decided to share it, in disrespect for Holiness beliefs in that church.
So true dee dee...so true!
Lamont has lost the little respect I once had for him. What's with the generalization of questions for Bishop Porter as if the church is wrong for not condoning any sin, including homosexuality.
i dont understand. the credit should go to pastor earl carter. he the one that made andrew come down to get deliverted
I feel sorry for that young nan ( Andrew Caldwell )
Yes smartdave599, it is ALL sin -----> and Jesus saves from ALL sin. The Bible is still true when it says "Without holiness no man shall see the Lord."
so why they put earl carter out.
just worry about yourself and it'll all work out
Ecclesiasticus 12:6 For the most High hateth sinners, and will repay vengeance unto the ungodly, and keepeth them against the mighty day of their punishment.
People please read the Bible for yourself and stop listening to these blind guides.
How about calling it what it was! Carter was speaking out of a spirit of hatred!!!
No Apology Necessary
he said that the church of god in christ has been in existence for 100 and something yrs. the bible says that the church that Jesus founded has been in existence for 2000 yrs so i ask you sir is cogic the church that we read about in our bibles
Darrin Christley
No, it's not the church that Jesus Christ established.
"We are the largest predominantly black Christian Church in the world". That is great I guess but does that somehow mean that it is the one true Church?
This Porter person is full of it. He knows that jackass "preaching" that night was completely out of line. He also knows very well many COGIC preachers have been guilty of making similar comments in their "sermons". Every preacher in the black church knows all they have to do is start chopping off the heads of gay people to get the folks on their feet. Doesn't matter how offensive, ignorant or irresponsible the comments are because they believe God has their back. This is the circus environment in which God fearing gays have to make sense of their struggle.
Like the Bishop said this man have a right to not live that homosexual lifestyle if He don't want to
That was very unerving to watch, that person with the bow tie at the beginning "I'm not gay no more" holy shit, fooled me. So many why's I wanna ask but not enough time. Scary shit.
I can tell you something else….. Which is never addressed. Why are so many men and women attending these convocations without their spouses? I've heard all about the mess that goes on behind closed doors. So many in attendance so fornication and adultery goes on in these big fancy hotels but no one knows about it.
SJ CII
Wow, what a mess?
Marco it may have not been a "loving climate" but we don't come to church for formality or to perform in accordance with ritual customs doctrines or traditional etiquette,suitable for or constituting an official or occasion.......We didn't water down the issue,it was the media critics that was airing out the dirty laundry on the black community
Would this be an issue if he said he was delivered from drug addiction or from being violent? As for that minister who referred to women and their monthly cycle, I found that to be disrespectful and crude. Not words that need to be said in the church service.
This guy went to school for this, even when he knows he is wrong.
Regardless of what point the preacher was trying to make, his statements were totally uncalled for and totally out of line. Holiness is right but hate rhetoric across the pulpit is NOT holiness. You can't preach holy principles with an unholy prejudice.
Principles in general create prejudice. He was not out of line, he spoke the bible and chose daily life application. It might have been graphic but public television is too and you still watch it.
Nope. Name calling is not holiness. And surely you're not comparing preaching holiness to what the world does....sorry. I'm not convinced.
lol. Which is fair for you to say. Sissy is a sub component of homosexual which he did say. You never know what you're going to say until the mic's in your hand and you are really led by the Lord. Jerimiah was more harsh than this man!
While I understand that, I'll never be convinced that the Lord led him to the "bleed out of their butts" rhetoric. Even he said "I wish God would make them...." His thoughts. Not God's.
Jeremiah Worrell I agree with everything you've said. I used to like watching/listening to G. Greg Lewis ("The Truth Behind Hip Hop) who was always talking about "Holiness" and "The old-time way", but most of his "ministry was gossip and slander of other well-known preachers and calling homosexuals out of their names. I fond it hard to see the "ministry" in what he was doing, because it seemed like more Showtime at The Apollo than anything. I heard more "Sissies" this and "gay" that coming out of his mouth--in a few sermons than I've ever heard in my entire life. It was evident that this man was filled with hate and prejudice. And when I heard Earl Carter speak, I got the same dark, negative, oppressive vibe from him.
I never saw him lay hands. You guys need to do more research. Laying hands is physical & spiritual. He never layer his hand on him & PRAYED.
Nether did Jesus lay his hands on the woman with the issue of blood but yet she was heald through faith. wisdom
She touched him. Physically because she wanted to be healed.
I pointed that out because in the beginning of the video the reporter clearly said bishop porter layed hands on the man. But he did not.
In the video. Pastor Carter is the one who laid hands a little bit earlier. Andrew continued to stay up front.
michael aaron correction; the woman touched the hem of Jesus' garment.
and he lied he is not delivered. he dont have any power. foolishness.
Joseph McHenry He likes women that is clear He didn’t lie! He doesn’t like men’s no more!
He told the truth! The deliverance is the fact that he can stand and openly admit his dislike of men and his like for women!
So the service
Bishop Porter had a great deal of nerve to blast people who are mocking or making fun of this "gay conversion" situation and the young man's "choice" to leave the "gay lifestyle." The Pastor, from the clip, did nothing but mock, make fun of and verbally attack LGBT people. The message that came from that pastor's sermon was one of hate and one that told LGBT people who have faith in Jesus Christ that you are not welcome here.
That preacher was out of order that's exactly why I don't go to church no more "No Power"
Well I think what was said by the preacher was very ugly for anyone straight or gay that statement was horrible !!!
Duane Mc'Cowen bro there are to many gays in churches thinking they are ok and will enter heaven it's time for these preachers to stop sugar coating that particular sin and give it straight because a lot of souls are living that life believing it's ok and when they die they are lifting there eyes open in hell.....no disrespect....
Brandon is low down for supporting tgat preacher being hateful and saying those words... and I'm a church member of Brandon and I want be going back...
You're gay huh?
Not at all
Why would a man come to a Holy convention with a purse and make up on and think nobody should say anything about it?
There's a difference between wanting to be and being delivered. He was not delivered. God doesn't half step. He is going to fully heal you or He isn't at all. Why would He delivered this guy from homosexuality, but leaves everything about him that is associated with homosexuality. This guy sounds more womanish than an actually woman, not to mention his mannerism. It doesn't add up to the God I know and serve. That's like God healing someone of cancer, but will leave the tumor. It doesn't make sense.
This dude made a spectacle of himself when he decided to make a mockery of God and of the church. It was very comical. This guy has used God for his own personal gain.
Andrew only gets beat up because he starts mess with other ppl but now 2019 Bishop Porter knows how Andrew is he goes live on Facebook acting a pure fool
Andrew is fighting another demon
Am I the only one who heard that nigga voice change?
God new then with sodom,sin is sin.God knows now,and sooner or later,it will come to surfice,be it big or small once you confess he will cleans you of all unrightousness.plus some sin are more revealing than others,obviously he's the obvious one.The black church fakes it to make it.Holliness is still right ppl
Hot dag on MESS!
I'm a believer. But this is too much for me to grasp. The way he said how he dont like mens no mo. And how he like wimins. Wimins wimins wimins. Then all of a sudden he said he was cold and started shivering. Thats was a bit dramatic to me. If he say he lije wimins does not mean he is saved all of a sudden. And what real woman want an ex sissy
😂😂😂😂 Wonder what he thinks of Andrew know???
Then did anyone catch him self-promoting his sons book in the middle of this agenda... WOW!!! A shame before God. No way in God's green earth can I condone such...
Well I see you on CNN Marc and now your other Gig. It is Paul who discusses Homosexuality in The New Testament. I do agree it is interesting Jesus did not speak of it head on. The question is, do you believe The Whole Bible is God inspired?
Jesus did describe what is a marriage and what it consists of in Matthew 19:4-6.
Okay Calvin and why did you say this to me?
The Virtual Church of the Disillusioned, Depressed, and Downtrodden Well, if you had read the scriptures, you would see that Jesus specifically addressed emphatically that a marriage in the eyes of GOD( He is GOD) is between a man and a woman and anything else less than that is not in His will. Everything else is just what it is, sin.
I don't disagree, yet I would tell the person struggling with Homosexuality to draw closer to God and not to Heretic Hunters who just like to Condemn and Question other people's Faith. We all sin and MANY MANY Christians have had Bisexual thoughts. The people who do this are Often Very shallow Spiritually.
Well, that's all I can do is to show them the Way of the Cross and give them the Word of GOD pertaining to whatever subject matter or issue that they may struggle with and I leave the rest up to them.
Pastor Carter was out of bounds...he's just one individual not the entire church. Bottom line most of this religious expression are in the flesh anyway...that's how they got caught up thus the expression was founded in flesh...not the Spirit.
This man have not been delivered he still a homosexual because man CAN'T CHANGE you only JESUS can CHANGE YOU AMEN
I guess that means Jesus is not real or it’s not a man .
It was mean spirited and certainly NOT GOD inspired…. What would Jesus have done? certainly not that……..
To allow that pastor to preach that hate and so vulgar on your platform is ridiculous and I would have had more respect if the head had of stepped in and corrected it right then.
I totally agree.
lol yeah fucking right
We need to stop apologizing people's sinful lifestyles.
lol
Carter is out of control and disrespectful. Yet you want people to come into your church and be delivered and saved. SMH
He is and it's sad. The preachers think they can say whatever they wanna say and before people start getting mad at my comment, I'm cogic. The lack respect they have for someone is ridiculous. Maybe this will teach him to not be so flipped mouth. My pastor is a Genera Board Member for The Church and I've never once in the past 40+ years that I've known him, ever humiliate anyone or say anything so shameful. Trust me, once the lawsuits start rolling in, Earl Carter will be standing alone to deal with it.
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Thank you. Sadly they don't want to be accountable. Now they are the victim. Really? I am amazed folks don't get that part. They don't tell all the straight people you hope they catch a disease do they?. They don't tell an alcoholic you hope they get alcohol poison do they? They did not go out in the street amongst the gang bangers and talk all that heavy talk? Why because it is rude, disrespectful, insensitive, wishing ill upon folks. You don't just straight talk down to folks like you are chastising your child at home. The young man might have wanted deliverance or he could have been ticked that this preacher would say such a thing as he sit there with a bow tie on...... and decide to turn things upside down. He will be the only one to really know. But, my point is you can push folks away doing too much and Carter went overboard. I would have walked out hearing something like that and I am not gay. I
have fellowship with cogic, cooljc, pentecostal ect. Folks need to get back in tune and get that discernment and other things back in order. Folks are blind to themselves slipping and don't want to be accountable.
I agree. I'm not gay either and carter did go to far. He did this same thing 12 years ago and was told he'd never speak at the Cogic Convention.again and what did he do the minute they gave him a second chance? He opened his big mouth again. He's his own worst enemy. What about the the scripture that says "let your words be few and seasoned with grace". Maybe a big fat law suit and losing his 501C3 will help bridle his tongue since he cant seem to do it on his own.
Who says this mess!!! That is not Christlike at all! Hateful rhetoric! He might want to look at his own closet! Since he protesting so much. Let God judge
You all teased him first calling him and others sissies, toys r us...... wishing blood out of their butts. THAT IS RUDE AND FOUL! because of the bow tie. STOP!!! Trying to change things around. ACCOUNTABILITY!! The church was disrespectful FIRST. Money is not the issue here, but I guess.
It’s increasingly difficult to sound reasonable when what you believe is based in mythology. It was funny listening to Porter pretend to be moderate while pushing the same disproved, anti-intellectual ideas as Carter. Otherwise, this exercise was a waste of time.
Brandon Porter was in itself trying to be a show-off you don't call nobody off of the order and give them no mic and it convention that large random party is a homosexual and he should be ashamed of himself Church of God in Christ isn't the Church of God in Christ that Bishop Mason started
Get out of here this reporter is crazy. Reporter get a life we more to fuss n fight about like Ebola, the white house,police killing our Blk men for no reason.
No sin is greater than the other some word you don't bring to GODS house so unprofessional
GH Long well that’s not a house! That is a meeting place .
Actually that’s not true.