Rating A Student Pilot's Landings | SHOCKED At What A Cirrus Did
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Thanks to Seth for being a good sport and allowing me to rate his landings, in our quest to find some consistency! It's a good little tool to use to assess students and show them what they need work on.
I think the Cirrus pilot in this video needs to work on a lot of things.
Enjoy the landings!
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Disclaimer: I edit my videos for time and entertainment purposes. Editing removes context and procedures crucial to safety of flight. This video is created for entertainment purposes and I do not claim it to be instructional.
Once again Lew my compliments to your instructing methods! You should seriously look into training the trainer series for other instructors that I'm sure are watching your video's. You are a phenomenal instructor and I wish you were at KMDQ here in North Alabama. Your connection with your students is incredible and you truly care about their well being and teaching them to be highly proficient at operating an airplane.
That is high praise indeed. Thank you so much!
As a CFI, I learn a lot from Lew’s videos - he’s a fantastic instructor ! Also, I’m from KMSL!! Hi North Alabama friend! 😂
great job, Seth! Sorry about the low pass flyby without coms, I was too drunk to work the radio.
😂
One of the most underrated skills is a slip. Definitely worth spending extra time to understand the maneuver and how to safely execute it.
"Does Cirrus have autopilot?" "Yeah. Apparently they also have sh*t pilots." LMAO
I'd be on flightaware pulling up that Cirrus tail number and make a phone call. You may be saving someone's life.
So good to see a video of you guys landing at Apopka. This for me is one of the weirdest runways of all time. It’s slopes on 33 and it’s oddly displaced on 15.
The best CFI in the business. I would fly to Orlando just to have a couple hours with you Lewis.
Appreciate it man!
I wanna fly to MCO just to fly the Disney-themed STARS. Too bad none of them are suitable for piston engines.
Absolutely brilliant video.. you make the learning experience FUN!! Which is what flying is about. (Apart from the Cirrus situation 🤦♂️🤦♂️) 👍👍
This is exactly how I was landing, I have done much better in the 140 since following exactly the POH on Approach (yours will be much different)... but the 140 is approach of 81 mph threshold rpm dropping from 1500 to 1200 then SLOWLY to zero. looking for a very slow 68 speed at the numbers. Very good to see others doing what I did also for us not so young folks. Thanks again.
Nice video lewdix, in 2 weeks I have my CFI check ride, it will be great to advise me with good tips. I will do it in Orlando executive and apoka. 😅😅😅
Know your FOI's and endorsements, along with having a very in depth set of lesson plans. Good luck!
Get that fella slipping!! I don’t think he “understands” that maneuver & how it’s a safe way to loose some alt. I venture to say he’s also gonna struggle with crabbing on short final. But I’ll also say - he’s got a master teaching him - so this skill will get developed soon! Thanks Sir Lew for another fine lesson. Oh, the “rant” is well justified BTW.
Oh trust me, he does now 😏 Haha thanks man!
@@LewDixAviation Would you please explain this “slipping” concept a bit more? Thank you. 🙏🏼
@@JavierRamirezLive You can think of it as flying the plane angled slightly sideways relative to your direction of travel, as a form of "air brake", helping you to reduce airspeed/altitude. The airflow encounters the side of the fuselage causing significant drag, and the air flowing over the wings at a angle reduces the wings lift a little. You basically simultaneously apply full rudder in one direction, aileron in the opposite direction to counteract the rudder, and down elevator as required to maintain sufficient airspeed (which will tend to bleed of quickly with all the extra drag). Now you're losing altitude without increasing airspeed.
Always have your head on a swivel when a cirrus is around. Impossible to anticipate what they’ll do.
😂 something I’ll note for the future.. Could have been any plane really, but just so happened it was a Cirrus
Cirrus pilots will never fail to live up their reputation...I've been cut under by one on final who came in on a long straight in, no calls on ctaf. Good thing I was in a high wing and actually saw him
Good thing you didn’t get hit!
Ciriously.
Interesting, I've never danced on the pedals on landing. Somewhere on the centreline was good enough. Barton, Manchester.
I am training out in Oregon currently and we deal with some of the Fire Helis (Heli base setup to the west side of our airport) .... they like to use a different frequency than the airport CTAF and then their Airboss flips out when we take off and land complaining to the county that the Runway needs to be closed. We are training and always calling upwind, downwind , base , and final ...... makes no sense .... use CTAF or at least monitor and call your inbound and outbound legs .....
To the cirrus pilot..... What kind of sheeeit is that??
Seth, nice work and good eye. Keep up the good work.
Sheeeeeeeeeit
Out of curiosity, would it be inappropriate to try and raise that Cirrus on Guard to see if they were at least doing half a thing right and monitoring there? Or if you could see their number on ADS-B and drop a note to the FSDO? I'm not one for tattleing but plowing through at pattern altitude on a nice day when you know there's going to be there people out flying, well, it's that kind of stuff that scares the crap out of me at uncontrolled fields.
I agree or the FAA incident reporting site.
Lewdix, I love how we share the same opinions on Cherokees versus 172s😂
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What a great channel. Love your style. I'm back in saddle after a 4 year break. As I was watching I was reminded of some of my initial mistakes and it was nice to see you catching them as I was noticing them. Subscribed~
Welcome to the channel my friend!
"I wanna hunt him down" had me dead lmao. But yeah, in all seriousness what the heck was that pilot thinking potentially risking lives of not only you guys but anyone who was in the vicinity of the airport.
😂 .. Exactly though. Not a care in the world 🤷🏼♂️
Some pretty decent landings. Nice job, Seth! 😁
first landing in a cirrus yesterday :)
Another quality video & some great instructing. I love the encouragement you give your students & how genuinely pumped you are when they’re doing well.
I always try to stay at least 1000' above pattern altitude with my trike, when crossing over an airfield.
Because you are respectful and safe
You know the jokes about cirrus pilots being incompetent must be grounded in some truth evidently
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." - Chuck Yeager.
WTF, I monitor airports that I am flying near even when I am at well over pattern altitude. Just in case.
I can identify with every one of Seth's mistakes. Although I have old age as an excuse (definitely an older dog at 72) it's taken ages to reach consistency in each of the phases of the circuit, and it's an iterative process. Get the approach profile more stable, then focus on airspeed, then improve crosswind management, improve the flair timing, then go around and repeat! It's like each element has to get burned in so you can move on to focus more on another. For example being able to manage the approach by focus on the aiming point, with less reliance on all the check points at 600ft, 500ft, 400ft etc. Finally now it's getting the landing attitude just right at the right time so there's never a risk of the nosewheel touching down to soon. Except there never is a 'finally' is there?
Great video as usual.
As a CFI it is not always easy to teach students pilots how to improve their landings.
Some pilots really struggle in performing nice and smooth landings.
We all still learn everyday … even after thousand of landings!
Happy landings from France 🇫🇷
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Congrats. If that had been me, I would have been trying to find out who it was, where they were based and have a word with the pilot. Safety safety safety
I totally understand your frustration, especially as an instructor. Right around the end of July all through September, I had to train at an uncontrolled airport where endless crop dusting was taking place, and if you've ever flown around duster pilots, they are very much cowboys. They do intersection takeoffs, tailwind takeoffs, they enter the "pattern" wherever they want. I had one mumble they were on a right base after I called a left base. Most of the time they don't make two calls, or will after they've done what they're gonna do.
I had one nice fellow who was behind me in the downwind chop and drop after I turned left base, called "hey I'm turning left base and will be ahead of you on this one." I was like, well at least he told me he was cutting me off.
I found it very hard to remain professional while trying to teach my students proper calls and traffic etiquette.
Have had exactly the same thing happen to me, not with a cirrus but had another plane cut me up on downwind at pattern attitude, and then hit the base leg and land... super dangerous and very bad way to join a pattern. Stay safe everyone... this is meant to be fun!
There is no way that the pilot was taught that. No respect.
@@LewDixAviation indeed no way, I just don’t think he was paying attention…
Cirrus pilots are bold because the have the chute as a crutch, but they will not make it to old.
Haha I was joking with a friend who has a Cirrus that for every emergency you just pull the chute
I wish i could have this guy as my flight instructor
Man I wish my instructor would have hyped me up when I was learning landings like this.
Is it only my opinion that every circuit he ended up high and veeery long? Or is it go pro fisheye lens?
Thought the same thing. Time to work on short field landings
Wasn’t Niko’s Wings trying to fit in a cameo was it? 🤪
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Simple. Airmanship. Enjoying the vids!
Exactly.. Thank you!
My first is always my best for some reason
Not all cirrus pilots are like that. Great video …thanks.
A Cirrus doing weird things, looks like "Just Plain Silly" is in the Orlando area.
Most conscientious cirrus pilot
What size iPad Pro did you get?
what do you mean by slip it?
How many hours did he have at this time?
Hi Lew! wanna start my PPL trainning early January and wanted to know where exactly you are located and how much it would all cost?
Welcome to the sky! love it.
Do you teach CFII? I live 20 mins from KORL. Working on my initial CFI currently.
Good shit. Use your feet, especially when you are slow. That cirrus was very reckless.
Two thumbs up 👍👍
what case do you have for your ipad? it’s nice
Great video and instructing. I'm at this stage in my training as well. Great to see all of this to mentally correct some of the mistakes I've made. I lived in Apopka until a few years ago and drove past the airport all the time just to look. I'm in Texas now and finally started my training.
8:36 40....30......20......10......Butter.
Interestingly I had the same experience with a Cirrus transitioning my home airport as I did a teardrop entry into the 45 degree downwind and at the same time with a student pilot ahead of me in a 152. No radio calls or nothing. I feel as you on the lack of respect for life some people have. Although the cirrus is marketed as a safe aircraft, one must use it safely as well.
The safety rating ends at the pilot flying the plane unfortunately… No disrespect to Cirrus pilots, but this isn’t the first one I’ve encountered doing abnormal things..
If your in fmy hit me up I know a good place that pours a cold pint - on me
Practice pulling and tugging! 🤣
so why u hate the 172
My CFI and I are working on my low approaches and landings at French Valley (F70) and almost at least once a session we have to do collision avoidance. Read AC 90-66B, people!!
F70 is a zoo at the best of times. Last time I was there I saw one on upwind, one crosswind, three downwind, two base and one final. Sat at the 36 hold-short for 20 minutes until there was enough of a gap to scoot out.
Lew , Your videos are stunning for air people , I mean, you teach in the right way..., for my personal opinion ! My first instructor was like you , great memories . Welcome back to the sky !!
Thank you so much!
Mr Dix... Were you praying under your breath at times there? Totally taken by how you select one key thing to improve, get that tuned in, then another, and improvement comes plus glad you're both ok and nothing more serious came of that Cirrus. Be safe.
Thanks mate!
What "might as well be on water"?
Cessna 172. The skyboat 🛳
Great video, Would love to see a quick cut video of preflight procedures and checks
Another amazing video big lew and also a great student pilot of yours awesome work. Even with the dumbass flying the cirrus
Thank you sir!
“They’ve also got sh** pilots apparently” 😂 So glad that I stumbled across this channel!
Haha glad you did too 😂
As a cirrus pilot 17:00 got me cracking .. a lot :D - you‘re a nice and entertaining guy and it feels like a damn good teacher too! Keep up your spirit :)
Haha thank you so much!
Love the use of the Ipad :) Scary that a Cirrus would just roll through a pattern like that.
Keep the amazing videos coming and keep up the great instruction.
Thanks brother!
Great video as always. I’m just in the beginning of my journey to the sky and your videos are great. Would be great to learn from you.
Ah thank you very much!
Get your arm off of my seat.
PIC makes the rules 😉
The worst part is that it's so much harder to track down the pilot, or even the aircraft, to report the incident. Stay safe Lewis!
Also, very conspicuous about this "preflight ritual". Now you're making us wonder
Actually it’s easier than you might think 😉 Thanks mate!
@@LewDixAviation I suppose you could just check the playback on flightaware, it didn't occur to me earlier. But how about that preflight routine? 🤔
As a cirrus pilot, yes some cirrus pilots are dumb but we're not all like that 😂
I loved flying the Cirrus! Great planes.. if operated correctly lol.. This pilot wasn’t operating in a respectful manner 🤷🏼♂️ Just want to point out that I was singling that pilot out, not all Cirrus pilots
That’s the sort of shit cirrus pilots do.
And you fly ......?
@@2025at STOL 170B with all the bells and whistles. Real work horse up here in AK.
This has nothing to do with Cirrus pilots. It has do with bad piloting. Disappointed that you did not beep the type of aircraft.
Noticing that it was a cirrus and saying it is not a bad thing. I didn’t attack cirrus pilots as a whole.
Oh gee… one of those 🤦♂️
You really hate Cessna 🤣🤣
I don’t know how you keep doing it man. I was so sick of instructing full time. Had 1750 dual given when I went to an airline and I was good but so over it.
I was pleased when I went to the airlines, but there’s sides to both that are frustrating. I gain more out of helping something achieve their dream than sat on a flight deck. BUT, I miss that world now. So… not sure how long I’ll be able to stay away haha
@@LewDixAviation I get what you mean. At the airlines you feel like you’re missing out on more fulfilling things. I will definitely start doing IPCs, flight reviews, and multi instructing on the side here soon
@@Winglets68 yea. I never fully let instructing go when I was flying 121. But like I say I miss that side of things now
Loved this video, don't believe it was said though, but what alt was the Cirrus at over Apopka?
No higher than 1000 feet. Looked lower
@@LewDixAviation Unbelievable...
Looks like he’s about ready to solo if he hasn’t already
Yes indeed. We are right on the edge
You did not just drop a video on a non-Monday and make our day, LDX!
Stop rubbing your eyes, it’s real!
Love the videos!
I’m one of the crazy bastards that enjoys this shit.
And it’s a better channel because of it!
This got posted on the COPA Facebook page. It’s funny how triggered these guys get over Cirrus criticism. Lol
Thing is.. I singled out the guy that did it, not all cirrus pilots 😂 very insecure bunch it seems
@@LewDixAviation don’t worry, I defended your honor! Us Lou’s gotta stick together! Keep up the great content.
Stuff like that needs to be reported and pilots given NPCP’s … With all the airplane tracking we have at our fingertips in 2021 it’s not that hard to ID the aircraft and figure out who was flying it!!
Are Ciriis the Audis of the sky ?
They are beasts! Loved flying them the 2 times I’ve done it. But I get the feeling their pilots have a reputation
@@LewDixAviation No wanting to do any shaming there... It's all in good fun.
Am i the only one who thinks the plane was more higher thn the glide slope ?
Rate his shorts. Did he mean to wear those out in public? Was he running late and grabbed the wrong shorts?
"They've also got Shiiitte Pilots apparently..." Safely the line of November
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I am using you as an example for my own instructor :D I'm sure you don't mind, I just hope he doesn't mind either. Phenomenal stuff LewDix!!
Haha great stuff!
Cirrus Pilots don't require these rules.
boomer cirrus pilots doing what boomer cirrus pilots do best
😂
Where are you in Florida?