Brutal Knife Test with Hydraulic Press
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- which is the most durable knife? Cheap or expensive? High carbon steel or stainless steel? We are going to but knifes against each other in our 150 ton hydraulic press to find out! We have also 240 ton force sensor to show how much force can the knifes take.
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Do not try this at home!! or at any where else!!
CHANNEL UPDATE:
We decided to divorce with Anni some time ago. There isn’t any drama behind it. We just have so different energy and life goals nowadays that it’s much easier to be just friends. Everything between us is really well and we are still good friends.
Anni also want’s to get completely out from the TH-cam business and lets me have fun with the company and channels from now on. We don't have any argument about money. We share what we made together and I will continue with the channels from here. So you are not going to see her much in future videos. She said that at least on Hydraulic Press Channel’s 10 year anniversary she is going to make appearance :D
Since the videos are much better when made together I decided to start work with my new girlfriend Hanna. You have actually heard Hanna on more often than Anni during the last months on HPC. So no need to complain that the videos used to be better before the divorce :D
The reasons behind divorce have nothing to do with Hanna or any other person than me and Anni.
If you want a more detailed update, here is a link to my finnish channel where we made a podcast episode about our divorce with english subtitles.
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I hope that you get our positive feeling about divorce through that video so you don’t need to worry about us.
Me and Anni are happy with the current situation and how things are going. Getting divorced is really easy in Finland compared to the US for example, so there isn't a lot of stress or crazy amounts of fees and paperwork. We have good memories about the 12 years that we spent together and are now excited to move on to the next phase of our lives.
I didn’t want to do video on main channels since they are not about my personal life but when "Anni" is suddenly much shorter and has a blonde hair I think you need some explanation :D
So we are all three doing really well here and no need to feel sad about this in general. I would like that everyone remembers all the great things that we did and are happy that we can now do great things here with Hanna and Anni can find her new passion from somewhere.
And thanks to everyone that wrote such a positive and warm comments on this weeks Beyond the Press video about this. It's a great privileged to have such a great viewers and community around us. I talked with Anni today about her new business adventures and we had a great time planning those. Anni was also really happy to see such a warm response from you all to this situation.
Omg... i'm gonna miss her laugh
Its good to be mutual about things like this
Best of luck to you both! :)
That's awesome, thanks for sharing.
It's really cool. Try to compare knives of the same type, but from different steels. For example, carbon, against stainless steel.
Hope the best for Anni, she seemed very kind. But that's life. Glad to know you two are still friends and everything went well regarding the divoce and administrative stuff.
I think the Tefal got a pretty strong advantage due to its blade shape being sloped. Every time it was pressed it would slide into a diagonal cutting angle whereas the other blades seemed to sit at 90 degrees for the most part.
Agreed, it moved into a slice action for sure
Maybe but it never slid and without a sliding action it isn't actually a slice.
Yes, it pushes the other blade to the side. Only 90 degrees angle is fair.
Now I’m wondering who will win in hydraulic rock, paper, scissors…
I think I have to do video about that :D Mount those items on the tools and have a go with them :D
Rock dulls the scissors, scissors cut paper and paper blows up the rock...
@@romaliop But with *enough* paper, the scissors might not have the strength to stay together
This has to be done
@@dboi1656 but with *enough* scissors... lmao
Loved the video I always enjoy seeing knife related content on the channel.
While these results are very interesting, it's worth mentioning that it's not a particularly practical. A thicker knife with cheaper steel will probably win out in most cases here. The tougher steels tend to be more brittle under pressure. Even though their edges last longer, they aren't maid for pressure against hard surfaces.
Not necessarily. The hardness and cutting ability influence a lot!!!
I loved this idea of a knife fight! It was really surprising how much damage some of them did!
Knife fight,LOL.
Brilliant! 🤣👍👍👍
1-hay guys i got something we can do to night.
2-what?
1-knife fight!
2-no we are not stabbing each other just because we are bored.
1-no we don't fight, we make the knifes fight each other.
2-the fuck you been smoking man?
next hydraulic press vs landmine😀
That's a great way to phrase it
One factor I see affecting the results is that when the blades aren't positioned perfectly one will get a bit of a slicing action which gives it an advantage. A proper test would need to control for that.
That's what it looked like with the fiskers. The whole edge was made with a cutting angle more than the others which hand more flat planes near the handle so as the pressure increased the fisker was able to push some of that along its whole edge better than the others.
I like the concept, but I think some knives got an unfair advantage when they got to hit the other knife at an angle. So if you do it in the future, it would be good to put them in fixed positions and so that they come at a 0 degree angle towards each other (looking horizontally). Interested in seeing similar comparison for more expensive knives
I noticed that, as well. Typically the top knife would come down at an angle, whereas the bottom knife was being held in place and straight by gravity. Due to the angle, the shear loads that the top knife would apply to the bottom knife cause large chips to break away from the bottom knife, or in one case, cause the blade to crack.
Keeping the blades parallel to each other is key to this test, it would appear.
Still fun to watch.
Yeah the victor significantly rolled over every knife it met. But hey, upsets are part of tournament comps.
Si pero la idea tambien es justamente conseguir los productos comerciales. Es decir en motos por ejemplo no comparas una enduro contra una de calle. Comparas una enduro de marca a por uno se marca b. No se si soy claro. Si x marca vende un cuchillo para cortar carne la marca b vende un cuchillo mas liviano o mas fino pero para el mismo rol ahi se compara. Si tiene error de diseño es justamente xq es inferior.
Also some cheaper knives win because they are thicker
I agree with you
I love how you folks just stay energized even after doing it for so many years! Stay curious, y’all! :)
"..like hot pee in the snow." Welp, that's being added to my list of things to say.
Also, big respect for how you and Anni have handled your parting of ways. This is how adults should do things. You're both stand-up people and I wish you all the best, as always.
what?! Since when they broke up ?
@@BaNuj It's in the video description before the comments section..
@@RobDucharme i dotnt see this
4:25 Officially the best noise of the week "Hoh whee!"
I love the concept of crushing things to other similar things tournament.
Here's an idea, next time have two round, swap the position so none of the knives have any advantage being on top or bottom.
They should be made honorary members of the Royal Society For Putting Things On Top Of Other Things already 😂
@@Asestar sounds kinky 😏
It’s a mind melt the way it’s hard to tell which knife cut into the other until they get pulled apart. Such a good channel
"Like hot pee into snow." 🤣
I'm going to have to use that phrase now!
I don't give a damn about which knife can cut the other knives, but the commentary alone makes this channel worth subscribing to.
Entertaining AF even though the thickest blade might have an edge over the other one (haha!), but might not perform as well with food, for the same reason!
I was thinking the same thing. My favorite kitchen knife is a thin carver. A Henckels twin. I also have a twin chef but it's too much of a butcher knife. So I only use it for ridiculous chopping jobs. Like the time I attacked a butternut squash. Those things are like trying to cut wood. For day to day cutting the carver is fine.
We do have one extreme example of "knife" in the video, the hydralic press itself (or rather those connecting bits). Very blunt, very massive, very hard. They crush normal knives. 🙂
Another reason is that high end knives are meant to be sharpened to keep their superior edge, and that means a softer steel. That is ok as long as you are not trying to cut bone.
Meanwhile the main selling point of cheaper brands (apart from price) is "won't need sharpening", which means a harder steel to keep a useable (if not very good) edge for enough time before replacing it.
Also, the knife that goes in on an angle in this video will most definitely win.
@@1pcfred Oh yeah, butternut squash is challenging! With all the knives that I have... Better be careful and focus!
The tarnished black marks from the heat created is cool, showing how hot knives can get when cutting through something hard
As a man who collects and appreciates cutlery, this new knife content is very enjoyable
I was really excited about this video, and it blew my expectations away. I was interested in this like it was a real sport. Really entertaining, and actually solid commentary (which is missing in most hydraulic press videos I've seen).
My small fairness gripe is that the spines of the knives have different angles, so some came down at an angle because of the flat slots they were in, which I'm sure impacted some matchups, but a great video regardless.
I just subscribed
this shit is wild, love this channel.
6:08 you sure took alot of time making that bracket image, I love the little tiny bits of lines in the middle of the second round brakcets and on the second bottom bracket, very professional :'D
Awesome idea. Could you clamp the blades so that the intersecting edges were horizontal? The tfal seemed to have an advantage as it was pushing the other blades to the side.
Yeah it rotated a bit every time to slice in at an angle slightly
I noticed a lot of side force, causing the please on bottom to be ripped.
"Do not try this at home" yeah lemme get on that with my industrial hydraulic press that I definitely own in my back yard. Love your vids 😂
Nice idea! As a huge pocket knife buff, it would be great to get more information on exactly which steel the blades are made from. D2, S110v, N690 etc. I know kitchen style knives don't always go into detail of steel materials but if you could repeat with pocket knives, it would be really interesting to see.
I think the blade geometry here was a huge factor. The knife that won was thick.
@@1pcfred Excellent point. Not just blade thickness, but I wonder how much the grind angle makes a different.
It would cost to much to do the pocket knifes test. Man $70-$300 for some of the better materials
would some testing lab like to get involved, not a tester my self but isn't just exposing metal some sort of acid, seeing how it reacts, or something, there must be for on site one us testing kite or something, or anyone could just label cheap crap-trash-rubbish steel and anything they wanted? any charge what they like for it too?
That being said, rigidity is not the only parameter involved in making a kitchen knife good. For certain types of cutting, a soft sharp blade may adapt to the task a lot better than a hard thick one. For example, for cutting vegetables in thin slices or for skinning fish-fillets.
I can’t decide if I like the commentary or the content more 😂. Great job guys!
A great idea! And good fun! But this doesn't show how good each knife is at being a knife. Most of the really good knives out there are very brittle and will lose this kind of test easily. STILL. Love it =)
Check out Project Farm for the kinds of testing you're asking for here
Now that’s what I call bringing a hydraulic press to a knife fight 😂
This video was even more awesome/scary than normal. Loved it.
I think the tfal had an advantage due to the angle of the blade. Each time it twisted in the mount causing it to slice rather than a straight on compression.
You should look at some of this with thermal imager cameras to see how hot things get before they explode.
6:47 Laughed way too hard at Annis *"YO"*
Read louri's pinned comment
Always love the videos you guys always come up with such interesting ideas!!
the first 4 seconds of this video, are a meme all in their own, "hoo - draulic", and "Kih - knife" are amazing words
I wonder if it gives the knives any advantage to be at the top vs bottom, or if they start at a bit of an angle
I think I saw upper knife move along the lowers edge, which mean bottom one was getting an advantage as new area kept getting exposed to damage over time.
Action fight scenes: That's not a knife fight
New Hydraulic Press Video: Now THATS a knife fight
Nice! Good idea for a new series :) Squish X into Y and bracket the winners.
Finally! X-axis vs. Y-axis!
"like hot pee into snow" my son and I laughed so hard....The kids and I love your videos keep it up you two!
I really like this knife test episode. I like watching the close ups of the knives coming together because it's so fascinating. Makes me want to research modern methods of knife making.
"The champion of the ..?"
"What is this"😭😭
That part seriously got me
You need the sound of the cheering fans like in the soda fights! And definitely need a rematch between the sodas because of all the controversies; the cheating, the steroid use,the bribes, etc.
Some stronger clamp tools with the option to screw and hold blades might be a good idea for future blade fights.
I've definitely never enjoyed it so much, as well as very surprised watching a competition like this!
I am fulfilled this day! 😂
This was a top 20 press for me, I thought this was a great video. Pressing axes will be even more interesting I'm sure.
I absolutely love this channel. Great video.
Definitely do the axe one. That'll be crazy. It'll be harder to do as the blades are so much thicker and stronger, but it's gonna be great to watch 😉👍🏻
This is a very useful for people who use kitchen knives to prepare meals that have steel as one of the ingredients. Beyond that, it's just amusing silliness. A+ for amusing silliness.
This was a good one with a lot more levity in the presentation than usual. Most folks aren't coming to HPC for the science, and this delivered the silliness I'm looking for.
we expect to see the ax vs ax video soon! i love your vids and so glad you're still around, dude.
I think the angle of the tfal had a lot to do with being able to resist damage and cut into the other knife. I'd like to see this with axes and others, but consider the movement in the tool and angle of attack for the next one.
lol such a great idea. I can't believe they keep on. thinking up even funnier and more interesting ideas of things to do with a hydraulic press after all this time
It would be very interesting to see this done with different steels but same hrc, dimensions and angle of attack:)
This knife championship is very interesting!
Looks like a blade's bright!
I think one reason that blade won is because of the angle of it. It was more curved, and actually managed to make more of a slicing action instead of just being pressed straight on.
This is what I like to watch at Sunday after lunch😆👍
Tefal will be pleased to know that the next knives I have to buy, will be Tefal. Great video. Many thanks.
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TH-cam recommended videos never disappoints . 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
This is really exciting, love this video!
Loved this format. I'm buying a Tefal knife for my kitchen because of this.
Congrats on 1B total views!
Interesting video, definitely some things to be learned here. I hate to be "that guy" but just a heads up for anyone buying cutlery, no steel or knife is "perfect". In this type of test the knives that are "tougher" are probability softer steel that would dull faster and therefore need sharpening more often. Generally, harder steels, which by default are harder to sharpen, are more brittle and prone to breaking or chipping but will hold a sharpened edge much longer. Steel quality is a spectrum of properties and where you want to be depends on the specific application.
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This would be a great test for some expensive fighting knives!
I loved the video and idea of the video. Nice one. Will be waiting for more challenges like this
Tefals marketing department is really wishing they had made this a commercial before you made your video I bet 😂
This was amazing, it should be a real sport competition hahaha
haven’t watched the whole video yet so idk what it contains but i’ll say this now, it’d be cool if they did a forged in fire kind of deal but then put the contestant’s knifes against each other
Was waiting for "Like a knife through butter" remark but "Hot pee trough snow" shall work as well I s'pose 🤣
I really enjoyed this episode. Good job.
Most exciting world cup I have seen in a while 🤙🏻🤣
Bringing a hydraulic press to a knife fight. 😂
"House. That's not the doctor from the TV show, that's a cheap ass brand from the store." 🤣
Good endorsement for the toughness of Tefal knives.
I loved EVERYTHING about this video!
When you bring a hydraulic press to a knife fight
I really enjoyed the narration, spectacular knockout at the end! Funny!
Love the creativity on the new episodes
The crazy rabbit holes at 11pm when you should be sleeping
That was actually very interesting, and I am looking forward to the axe fight.
Haha, now I know what brand to go for when I’m slicing my vegetables with 900 kg of force
Him: I'm really in to sports.
Her: what kind of sports?
Him: 🔪VS🗡️
This is so goofy, but also interesting 😂
I wonder if the lower knives are supported more by the ground and how much it affects tests
Finally liked and subscribed. Love your channel, great trial. You and your lady friend are hilarious and interesting comparisons. Love when you blow up stuff.
i've missed your channel, this is the first video that has shown up on my page and i am subscribed...
Maravilhoso melhor confronto que já vi .👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
This test has so many variables that just turn it into "What knife resists more being pushed in steel?" But different knives use different types of steel. Stainless, German, Japanese, high carbon, martensitic alloys, all to allow different skills. And you need a more precise jig to keep those edges in straight
This. Was. *Epic.*
Anyone remember the Futurama commercial “Thompson’s Teeth - the only teeth strong enough to eat other teeth!”
Now Tefal can make a similar commercial :)
You should notice that this knife fight says nothing about which knife is really the best in regular use, a knife with a thin blade will lose this contest while it is actually the one which cuts the best, and a knife with a very hard blade will perform bad in this contest because it tends to crack resulting in large chunks breaking off, while in reality it will be the one which stays sharp for a longer period of time.
Never would've I thought that i would see a knife cutting another. Never in my life I would've thought that i would see a knife cutting another, in a best-of-8 tournament. And its my first time seeing a knife cutting another too.
Hell yeah! This was so fun to watch! And although the last thing i expected from this channel is to give me an advice for which kitchen utensil brands to looks for, i'm here for it!
This certainly is not indicative of how the knives actually perform.
Don't. These are not brand tips. Just in the common market there are at least four different types of steel for cutlery, which provide different results for different needs. This isn't an indicative test.
This was a great video. I enjoyed it quite a lot.
Gives a new meaning to “Knife fight” haha
This is probably a dumb question, but do the ones that are being pushed down have advantages/disadvantages over the ones on the bottom that are sitting still?
Interesting test, and "Hot pee into snow" has now been added to my list of funny things to say.
This is awesome, brings to mind scenes from the anime Bleach. Love the channel.
This was great. You should do this with survival knives next!
The Tefal had a much different grind giving it the advantage. Fun test though!
Very interesting.
I'm wondering what would happen with a custom Damascus chef knife forged by a blacksmith or with some quality EDC knives,, but that's a different budget level. 😳
i use Tefal for years. Thanks for this test.
Amazing! Next, do it with two running angle grinders using different discs and see which one wins
I like Anni is back, she adds a lot to the atmosphere 👍
Anni is gone. Anni and Lauri separated and got divorced (see top pinned comment). The voice you've heard in the background is the voice of Hanna, Lauri's new girlfriend. You're welcome. Greetings from Germany.
@@norbertgabler8267 I just realized that 😄