Check out Sheath using the link in the description! They're very good for the man-pickle. Since filming this - I've been asked on national TV to discuss it and other articles have popped up. I'm still at a loss why this is even news, but like I said at the end of this video - if this somehow starts a conversation about obesity and how we attempt to justify and excuse it, then I'm happy for that. Nobody should have to sit through this type of situation. And American Airlines - you call me any time to negotiate my reparations. ;D
I think regardless of viewpoints on this, fundamentally, if you pay for a seat on an airline, you should be entitled to the surface area of that seat. No "overflow" from other passengers.
This happened to me on a Southwest flight. I complained afterwards and asked for 1/3rd of my seat price refunded. I wasn't expecting them to refund the full price. Edit. Yes, Southwest airlines refunded the full seat price. This was in 2009, Jacksonville to Vegas flight. And their response: Dear Oliver, We regret that you experienced an uncomfortable flight when you recently traveled with us since another Customer's girth encroached upon your space onboard the aircraft. As you may know, we have a policy in place that requires any Customer who cannot be safely, comfortably, and completely accommodated in one seat with both armrests in the down position to purchase the number of seats occupied. We require and expect our Ground Operations personnel and Flight Attendants to ensure that everyone onboard our flights has adequate seating space. Admittedly and humbly, our Employees should have recognized the seating needs of this Customer of size before boarding began. Additionally, had our Flight Attendants noticed the seating problem prior to takeoff, they should have contacted station personnel to make arrangements to allow this Customer of size to occupy two seats. If the flight is completely full, then our Employees should either solicit for a volunteer to take a later flight with compensation or offer to accommodate the Customer of size so they can occupy the necessary seat(s). We regret that this situation was not addressed and handled appropriately before takeoff. As a gesture of goodwill for your inconvenience, we have refunded your one-way ticket to the original form of payment used. Please allow one to two billing cycles for the credit to post. I am hopeful that you will accept this gesture in the spirit intended. Again, we appreciate your taking time out of your day to let us know about your recent experience. We hope that you will not allow this rare occurrence to forever deter you from flying with us in the future as we would LUV the opportunity to serve you again and show you our strong commitment to our Customers. Sincerely, Jessica, Southwest Airlines The file reference number for your e-mail is 143770321.
Looking at the fact that the brother/sister combo bought tickets with a seat in between them tells you they knew they were too big to fit comfortably in that space and hoped they would either squeeze a smaller person in between them or hope no one bought that seat. They should have split the cost of the third seat to have that space.
I agree. They purposely booked the window and aisle seats because those give you the most leg room, etc., and that's why they didn't want to switch with her.this In fact this lady said she always tries to book aisle seat so the brother/sister booked first, and then this lady booked after them. I completely agree...they were hoping no one would book that middle seat. Anyway, I wouldn't have handled it lime she did. She should have taken a f!ight attendant aside during the flight (not after) privately and see what they can do. Maybe they had empty business class seats that they could have moved her to? I think where she went wrong was broadcasting this situation publicly and thus possibly shaming the other two passengers. Should have handled this privately, during the flight, IMO.
@@yadayada752 She did say that she would have requested the aisle seat. And hence it wasn't available, she went for the middle seat. Therefore, she did book her ticket AFTER they did.
@@thectyptid00 then the problem is that they should use a balance before boarding the plane. (of course the employees can clearly see with their eyes). perhaps creating a database of gran-fatsos.
A friend of mine is very obese. When he takes a plane, he buys two seats. He says if you take up more than the one seat, you should be required to buy two.
Yeah but then the greedy airline which has overbooked the flight will take that seat for someone else. You can try to protest but you'll probably get blacklisted or even thrown off.
If they were siblings and they didn't get seats next to each other, but with a space between, I assume that is because they knew it would impossible to sit next to each other
Yeah that's gotta be intentional. They know they can't physically fit next to each other so they book seats at each end not giving a shit about the poor soul trapped in hell between them. Humans are awful.
The brother and sister definitely did this intentionally, they booked their seats apart because they knew if they sat together they wont have enough space.
Exactly. And they knew someone was going to be stuck between them. Almost always, a brother / sister, husband / wife, friends, book their tickets sitting next to each other.
I swear to God if I was in the same situation, I would find a way to fart and burp every 2 minutes, and I would swallow some disgusting crap, like some toothpaste + a bit of lipstick + some of my pee, so I could puke every 5 minutes. Then, I would wait to see if any of those fat rhinos would dare making some comments about...comfort... and quality of the flight. Because, hey, if they are allowed to steal 70% of your seat, maybe you are allowed to fart... Then, I would eat some crap, and I would puke 4 or 5 times... What a selfish human beings....
On a transatlantic flight every extra pound of weight burns an extra pound of fuel, so if passengers come in all shapes and sizes tickets should come in all prices to reflect this I was once charged excess on my baggage because it was overweight, then spent the flight squeezed onto 2/3 of my seat next to what appeared to be a land mammal of some kind, and must've weighed twice as much as myself and my baggage combined.
@@otterspocket2826 Hmmm... "A land mammal". Maybe an Ork, or a Giant perhaps. The fact that you survived the flight, means it wasn't an Ork.😊 Seriously though, the airlines charging for extra baggage weight, but doing nothing about people that are above a certain size. Is basically them picking the "low hanging fruit", while not dealing with a problem that will get them negative press coverage. Stay well and safe travels.👍👍😊
What if you had been as big as them? The only way they were able to get away with this BS is because you are in shape and can fit in a third of a seat. That’s so messed up. How dare they give you a hard time when you were the one subjected to this miserable flight. That ticket was paid for. Just because it wasn’t specifically by you shouldn’t matter. I can’t believe what is happening to the world,
Honestly, shouldn't people flying be charged by their weight, just like cargo? I mean don't heavier people equate to higher fuel cost? What if the entire cabin was obese, maybe the plane might capsize?
American is particularly bad due to their universally scrunched seating. As an NFL linebacker-sized male, I hate how bad the airlines have gotten in smooshing people into their planes.
I’m playing the World’s Tallest Violin for you Poor Oppressed Giants. Maybe you should start a Tall Lives Matter Movement, to officially establish your Victimhood Status.
the fact they were siblings and purposely bought seats that were not next to each other meant that they knew they weren't gonna have enough space yet they chose not to buy the middle seat but rather let some stranger suffer instead.
The airline doesn't want to alienate fatties, but the airline knows healthy sized people will travel regardless, so opts to support the fat passengers and appease the Twitter mob.
Didn't you know that the left only pampers to sick and ill people? Anything to virtue-signaling but saying f you to everyone else is not really virtuous is it
I sat next to a man one time that was probably 450 pounds. He looked shocked that I was willing to sit next to him. He told me the middle seat was also his but that we could share it if I needed to set anything down there. Really nice man that bought two seats because he was that big.
@@elyeliza8287 well he has been trying to end his time on earth for the 15 years before I met him. Long story short he was an extremely active man and then had back surgery and his spine fused. He wanted to end his life but through natural causes. Man hadn’t drank water in ten years and constantly has dip in his mouth for the last twelve years. He said he kept going to the doctor hoping for cancer or something crazy and he would have a full work up regularly and he was in perfect health. The dentist said his teeth were in perfect health despite having dip in his lip constantly. His story was truly fascinating and heartbreaking at the same time.
@@UPBEATFOREVER If he's not a stinky dude, it's possible. Unfortunately, fat people are bad on the hygiene part since they can't bend enough to wash every part and folds are filled with smelly stuff. Some manage well.
As a fattie myself, I don't blame Sydney for being upset about being squished. This is one of the reasons why I typically fly first class, so I'm comfortable but also not smooshing someone else. When I can't afford first class, I fly comfort plus and so I can at least stretch my legs out and I just fold my arms so I'm not touching anyone. I do this for myself as much as everyone else. I mean, I don't want to be touched either.
As a frequent flyer, I understand perfectly your pain. If I pay for ONE SEAT, they need to give me ONE SEAT. Not 1/2 of a seat and then airline tell me that I am not as important as the fat people. Those two fat brother and sister bought intentionally the seats separated by one seat, because they KNEW they will inconvenience each other. They were actually evil... they needed to buy the seat between them too. Edit: Doing purposely harm to another human is evil. They knew what they were doing, without any regard to others.
@@MissShembre I don't think we should be making excuses for them, and I say that as someone who is overweight myself but can easily fit in ONE airplane seat). Not paying for the space you WANT and just TAKING it from someone smaller is being nasty. If they hadn't done this intentionally, they wouldn't mind to swap seats (but they knew it would get very uncomfortable if they sat next to each other). I've never refused to switch seats with anyone, even though I DON'T use more than 1 seat of space. The only time I ever used more than one seat on an airplane was on a flight where I felt really sick; the stewardesses noticed and offered me to lie down in an empty row. But as said, that was ON INVITATION, not by pushing my fat belly into someone else's space.
Yes.... they did it on purpose knowing that the passenger in the middle will just try to escape so they would have all the 3 seats for themselves. Sydney should have protested to them first, then to the flight attendants. She paid for that seat (doesn't matter if someone else paid, it was her ticket), she was entitled to the full seat of hers, without having anyone else encroaching on her space.
I would've just taken a picture and walked off the plane... Later flight plus apology and voucher for drinks to forget about having to see those creatures.
@@dinos9607 you’re probably right!!! I didn’t even think about that! That was probably their way of trying to get that extra seat for free knowing nobody would want to be smashed in between them
THIS is exactly why the airlines have a policy of purchasing two seats. It’s is partially to pay for extra weight being flown and using fuel, but a majority is for SAFETY. A large person simply needs more space to move in any direction and would require that space to exit in an emergency. It’s the DUTY of flight attendants to address this.
Rocket, just climb over them, they will probably stop to get their overhead luggage anyway. If you know you have to get out (in an emergency) get out anyway you can.
What I wonder is, since they claim to give these seats at random regardless of passenger size, what happens if the person in the middle is also oversized? They blame the plane seats for being fatphobic?
I am 6'3" and overweight. (But not as overweight at Syndey's bookends!!!) I do not fly because the last time I did I could barely stand after a one-hour flight with my knees wedged hard enough against the seat in front of me to deform the back-plate of that seat. I also spend the entire flight holding my arms in front of me to avoid impinging on the space of the passengers to either side of me. I was in back, neck and shoulder pain for hours after that last flight.
Fun fact: a hotel I worked in had a mini van shuttle to the city center. It took 8 passengers tops and you had to reserve your place. One day the driver had it fully booked and discovered that all the 8 passengers were not able to depart together because they simply couldn't fit inside! Those were all american tourists, obese to an extreme. The cheif of the reception team advised to take into consideration the size of the passenger, and maybe stop at 6, not 8.
I had this happen to me. I stopped before sitting down. Took a blunt photo. Went straight to the flight attendant and said, “I paid for a full seat, I expect a full seat. It is not even physically possible for me to fit there.” They moved me immediately. Somehow I doubt that would happen today.
As a large person 6'6" 325, there are certain airlines I stopped flying on. American is one of them. It is the responsibility of the large person to not encroach on other people's space. I did buy two tickets on a few occasions or flew first class. I usually had legroom problems rather than side to side issues. The airlines are always trying to squeeze a few more seats onboard so they are complicit in this too. Love Sydney's content!
Yep! Planes used to have 55 inches seat space when commercial flights started becoming a thing (1940's - 50's). Now, the seats are made with 35 inches of space. That's from outside arm rest to outside arm rest, and no space between the neighboring seat. So take out 5 inches for the arm rests and you have 30 inches of seat space to sit in, and you'd better hope your neighbor doesn't like resting their elbows on the arm rest, because there's not going to be any room for you.
You are absolutely correct. Seat widths have diminished over time. I have a friend who is an engineer who works in the design and structural concerns in the interior of airplanes. Planes that are currently 6 seats across were designed to be 5 seats across. And I can personally attest to this, I'm old enough to remember when they were configured correctly. Some airlines are far worse than others.
And, unfortunately, many people don’t care about anybody than themselves. Remember when Hollister clothing discontinued plus sizing? Even though there was an outcry they basically gave the large people the middle finger and went ahead.
I say this as an obese woman: if you are so fat that you take up the space of two seats on a plane, then it is your own responsibility to buy two tickets. I'm tired of people being so damn sentitive to the truth. The decisions I've made regarding my own body/food/health should NOT, in ANY way, affect others negatively. It's my own responsability to keep that from happening. You are 100% right, Sydney.
I disagree. If you are obese, then its the AIRLINES duty to provide for the extra seat. By your logic, kid tickets should be half price. Don't give companies leeway
You write "NOT, in ANY way, affect others negatively". From my reading, "healthy obesity" is an oxymoron. Being obese means being waaay overweight. You may be measurably in 'better' condition than other obese ppl but you're not healthy. So when you need all of the extra medical care YOU WILL REQUIRE because of the complications your excess weight has caused you, that cost will be shared by EVERY OTHER CITIZEN in their own medical and insurance bills and even a doctor's availability.
@@Random_dud31 why should airlines provide seats for blobs when it then means they can't carry more people and nothing will stop the blobs from getting cheeper seats if you take up 2 seats you either pay for 2 seats or else others will have to experience what Sydney experienced or you can stop eating to be able to fit in your seat. If you can't fit in your seat don't fly If I was a flight company I would have a rule in place that if you can't fit in the seat you paid for you either get kicked off the flight without a refund because they stopped a passenger from flying or they can pay for another seat
@Pascalo Bro, are you actually defending airline companies. They literally made the seats smaller. I remember in 2005 the seats were bigger. And 2, how about people who are big. Like dwayne johnson figure. He's not obese.
Coming from someone who used to be obese, i am 5'6" and at my heaviest I was 260lbs, I was always aware of myself and my size. It wasn't anyone else's fault that I was the size that I was but my own. I always made sure to avoid encroaching on someone else's space if I could help it. I have lost a lot of weight over the years and stay between 170-180lbs. I'm still considered overweight I believe but I'm extremely happy with myself now and the size that I'm at.
Great job on the weight loss! As for your current weight, it is all down to body mass make up. I'm 5'6" and due to weight training for endurance I come in at 210, but due to the muscle mass that is a healthy weight for me. As training for endurance doesn't bulk you up, most people think I weigh 20-40 less than I do. The weight guessers at the theme parks hate me. The point is, that if you lost the weight through exercise, you may have added some muscle to your body which is a good thing.
Self awareness is key. I also used to be a very large individual. I would always try and make jokes if my weight was an issue. Like being in an elevator with a skinny person. I’d be like don’t worry I’m not exceeding the 3000 pound weight limit 😂
As an introvert, and someone who doesn't like being touched in any way by strangers, this would have been torture. No, this is definitely not ok at all, period. Having some stranger squashed into you from both sides is insane.
Another introvert here, this situation is straight up nightmare fuel. I probably would've spent the flight in quiet panic mode with a few tears. I really can't stand my bubble being invaded without expressed permission.
Yeah it wouldn't be ok for any other person to just lean into you or hold themselves on you, so I don't understand why this world ignores that happening due to fatness. I would've probably escaped into the damn bathroom and spend my time there instead when being allowed to be out of my seat. My social anxiety is already hard to tolerate in a plane, something like this would... I have no idea how I could have managed it. I would've probably had to insist they change seats to be next to one another and hope I can squish on the edge seat or ask the flight crew to put me into their rest area to deal with my panic attack or something.
I agree 👍💯%. Your personality totally resonates with mines cause I'm very reserved/introverted by nature as well. I'm an introvert by nature & only socialize with people when the situation is needed otherwise I just stay in my shell 🐚. I'm like a hermit crab :-)🦀♋.
My husband and I went on a flight recently and due to his size, we purchased an extra seat for him. We were on a small plane with only two seats on each side of the aisle so my seat was supposed to be in the row across from him. I was informed when I got on the plane my seat needed to be changed. Ok, no big deal, I'm just happy to be going on vacation. Until I got to my new seat assignment which was next to a larger man. I had to spend the entire flight leaning into the aisle so his body would not be touching mine. Like you, I am not ok with a stranger touching my body, nor should I be made to feel like I should be ok with it because the person touching me is a larger person. Not to mention the girl behind me that was bouncing her head off the back of my seat the entire time while she slept (my husband was in the row behind her and told me later what happened when I told him I didn't know what the hell the person behind me was doing) and the man sitting across the aisle from me that was noisily bouncing his leg the entire time. It was the worst flight I've ever experienced. If you're an obese person you know it and are well aware of the fact you will not fit in an airplane seat and should be made to purchase two seats. If you cannot afford it, then you shouldn't be flying. Sorry, not sorry. My husband had bariatric surgery and has lost 160 lbs and hopefully will only need one seat the next time we fly but if not we will again purchase two seats for him. Because no one should be made uncomfortable for the choices he has made to overfeed his body. It's not fat shaming to stand up and say "I am not ok with you being in my personal space or touching my body".
I've got to say it, there are far too many overweight people these days. I'm only 46 and when I was a kid, we had a far healthier society. Keeping fit shouldn't be done to conform to anything, it should be done for a person's own wellbeing, comfort and longevity.
You and I are part of the same generation, so I know exactly what you mean. For that matter, people can look at old footage from the 1950s, '40s, etcetera, and see that even the heavier people were 'portly' rather than obese. The 'heavy' of yesteryear is the 'average' or even 'fairly fit' of today. All the junk in the food now, (disrupts normal hormone function), plus so many people being on medications that also mess with hormones, and the recent tech and societal changes that encourage inactivity are at the root of it, to my way of thinking. And I would lay most of the blame on the food and medications.
People had more to live for decades ago. Now, we're all pretty much fucked: costs are higher all around than they've ever been, politicians are having pissing contests instead of doing their jobs, rich people and corporations are getting richer while the poor get poorer, everyone is angry and divisive about everything to the point of destroying families, fake news is running rampant, climate is getting worse (maybe not as bad as some people say, but still progressively worse) and we're possibly on the cusp of WW3. It's a wonder that even more people haven't just given up and eaten themselves to death out of sheer depression. It also doesn't help that 80% of what we buy has addictive substances in it, primarily sugar. Not taking blame away from fat people necessarily, just saying all these outside factors don't help.
You should respond to the airline’s tweet of “Our passengers come in all shapes and sizes…” with, “Then why are your seats the same size and designed for a anorexic toddler?”
Movie theaters are getting it. They're making seats bigger and more comfy so you enjoy to going to the movies again (even if you don't really like the quality of the films, thenselves).
@@ohsweetmystery That’s not true. Seats and planes have gotten smaller over the years. You can tell by old photos and how much they could put on the tray tables when they fed them. It was 3 courses and a drink usually. Airlines have been contemplating standing “seats” for the last few years so they could cram more in.
@@ohsweetmystery Seats on airlines have shrunk from an average of 20 inches wide in 1985 to 17 inches today, and the pitch (read: legroom spacing) has decreased from an average of 32 inches in 1985 to as low as 27 inches on some flights today. They are indeed getting smaller. They have also gone from a 30 inch wide isle in 1985 to a 20 inch wide one today. To put that into perspective, a 24 inch wide doorway is the narrowest that is considered “reasonable” for a human to pass through. Do your homework before just insisting it’s because people are fatter (though I will grant you that is also true.)
The cabin crew can make ALL the difference. I was in a similar situation flying from Frankfurt to Atlanta. Realizing that this is going to suck for several hours, I walked back to one of the aft doors and was just watching Europe go by. One of the flight attendants adopted me and put me in one of the crew rest seats. One employee earned Delta some serious loyalty that day.
Flight attendants tend to be nice to customers who quietly and tactfully try to make the best of their situation as you did, rather than those who turn the whole flight into a cringey performance, as she did.
This fills me with rage. Imagine being forced to be touched against your will like this. It's a violation of personal boundaries. And not that someone should need to actually state they are uncomfortable with that, for it to continue after asking is just unacceptable on every level.
As I'm sure someone else has already commented, the reason they didn't want to switch seats is because *they knew it would be uncomfortable to sit next to each other. So rather than enduring that as a family discomfort, they both would rather subject a stranger to that discomfort, even knowing the discomfort was being doubled up on that stranger*
Honestly I think they knew what they were doing and were trying to get that extra seat for free because they knew nobody would want to be smashed between them so they would try to ask for another seat
Flying is not about comfort. It is about paying through the nose to the airline to make them rich. That's all. Suck it up and deal with being uncomfortable for a few hours. god everyone is so fucking soft they can't take anything anymore. No one has any ability to withstand the slightest thing.
Okay so… no. I 1000% agree with you. I’ve been in this exact situation, and it sucks. It’s not fat shaming. It’s a matter of a person touching me when I don’t want to be touched. I’ve paid for a seat on an airplane, not half a seat. If I can’t comfortably move, I am not getting what I paid for. Large people need to buy 2 seats. We don’t need to accommodate their size. Preach, girl.
@@LS-ys8nr Nope. This is way beyond discomfort, it's utterly unsafe. Another customer doesn't have the right to take over half of the seat that I paid for, exacerbating my neck and hip injuries and pinning my arms down. Especially in the US when domestic flights are easily $400+. If they couldn't rearrange our seating to fix it on a full flight, then one of the obese customers should be made to deboard before takeoff.
From USA, I really enjoyed your tweets. They were hilarious and absolutely truthful.. My son in an Airline pilot for Delta. He said the airline you were on should have moved you even if it was up to 1st class. He said to continue to call this out until your compensated, because you will be.
Omg. Delta treated me amazingly (I commented this on another thread but whatever - I can repeat so you can show your son). I was flying solo parent in 2018 with three kids (my husband had a work conflict and couldn’t join us). 4 hour flight and my kids had never flown. It was a wildcard experience. So what did I do? I PREPARED! Lol. Anyway. My kids were 3, 8, 11. I absolutely had to sit with them. So I planned. A) chose an airline that had reserved seating. B) called ahead to arrange seating together - got placed in back row of a 2+2 configured plane - I hate back row but whatever. It was the only unreserved set of 4 seats available AND the kids would be able to get to bathrooms immediately. (Smart on Delta there.) C) I had to tow the car seat along (full size, not infant size). I couldn’t counter check it (their policy) so I had to gate check it. Fine. Whatever. I also took the initiative to tell pretty much every staff member (gate team and flight attendants) that this was my kids first flight and I’m flying solo with them and I’d love any accommodation I could get. Basically: can y’all just proactively check on me please? I don’t know if they’re gonna be monsters or crying or vomiting (car sickness is strong in my bloodline 😜). I didn’t want to be a disturbance but I’m really out of my element and had no other travel option I could afford to get me there. Delta staff was so great. I brought little baggies of Hershey kisses to give to everyone. (Gate and flight staff and passengers seated near us.) The flight staff was so kind and attentive. We ended up needing nothing. My kids tolerated it all like champs and their manners were on point. Really awesome. The flight staff gave them little care packs (couple extra snacks and little kids flight wings and a hand wipe and such). In the packs the staff had written little thank you notes for the chocolates and told the kids how good they were on the flight and how they hoped to see them flying lots in the future. Generic stuff but it was sooooo sweet. I still have them somewhere I hope. Bonus prize (for your son): we brought candy for the pilots, too, but obviously couldn’t give them pre-flight so flight attendants held them. We were deplaning and the pilots flagged my kids down, thanked them for the chocolate, and then invited them into cockpit. They were THRILLED! (Also thanks to the cleaning staff on that flight - we were last off and took a few minutes to finally clear off - sorry to be any bother.) The return flight was pretty much the same except I told everyone it was second flight. 🤷♀️ No cockpit time in that run (they were doing a quick turnaround). The staff was still amazing and attentive. We did have a little vomiting on that flight (still back row on a 2+2 configuration). The attendant offered a comp drink but I declined (though I think that was a missed opportunity now Haha). Anyhoo- go go Delta. Excellent at accommodating us. But then again we also pre-planned. 🤷♀️ Maybe more of us should. 😏
When you asked the guy if he would be willing to swap seats, don't be mistaken, he said "no" because HE didn't want to be sardined. He wanted space and he didn't care that he was causing distress. HIS comfort was his priority. His sister was secondary. YOU were a very distant third in his regard.
Make no mistake, it's one of the things obese people do when they travel together. They hope that it isn't a full flight, the middle seat won't be booked, or if someone is there, they can be moved to another seat. Then the 2 obese people in the aisle and window seat get a whole seat's worth of free space.
@@harperfamilyharper3146 she had no way of knowing that two morbidly obese people would be occupying those seats. What they did was just inconsiderate. If they are going to be selfish then no one owes them respect. You get respect from how you behave to others
This is actually something that we do in the military. your bags are weighed as well as your carry on bag in your hand. They have to make sure the weight isn’t too much for the flight. I wish more commercial airlines would do this.
This is actually an OSHA standard for the workers moving your luggage, not the airline itself. Over 50lbs means two people are required to safely lift and load by OSHA standards
How's it funny? What would be the point of weighing people? Everyone gets the same baggage allowance and that's fair. Why would you want to discriminate against people for their weight or size?
The most appalling part is, these people do not get seats next to each other as they know how uncomfortable it is and they must know it is more comfortable for them to have a thin person between them. But they could buy 1 and a half seats each and not effect anyone else...what a bizarre world we live in...
I always hated the suffix "phobic". Being repulsed is not the same as being afraid. You do not impose fear on me because you can't sit in place without running out of breath.
i don’t think it’s even being repulsed by half of the time, though the other half of the time it is…. but that first half of the time, it is total frustration with the entitlement, lack of self awareness, and apathy shown by these people. and i say this as an obese person myself who would be MORTIFIED if my fat spilled over and was touching people next to me…
@@bryanbrett8943 "A phobia is an anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobia Am I looking in wrong places? I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm just not attracted. or inspired to pay their hospital bills.
Yes! Consider a garbage dumpster that a restaurant uses (think expired food sitting in the sun for days). I'm repulsed by the smell (I used to work at a restaurant) but I'm not phobic about it.
Pre-COVID i was roughly 350lbs (25 stone). Spent 3 weeks in the US in 2019 and took several flights. It only really dawned on me at that time how much of a massive inconvenience i was to others when flying, i felt terrible. A lifelong friend i flew with jokingly flagged to me i'd essentially spent a 12-hour flight pressed up against him. That stuck with me. Decided to make a concerted effort to fix my weight issues, and during COVID years i lost 168lbs. Had a huge smile on my face when flying with the same friend this summer. Until a grossly overweight passenger sat down next to me and was almost sitting on my lap. Ha.
Excellent effort, that's awesome. I would highly recommend regular visits with a cardiologist if you haven't already. Rapid weight loss can cause cardiac events and I lost a coworker to an aneurysm in a similar situation. Not trying to scare you, but if you've got the character to push yourself that well, I want to keep you around. Nice effort, and good luck.
I fly quite often for my profession (Ship's Engineering Officer) and I remember a recent flight that happened not to long ago. It was a flight that was between Houston, TX and Flint, MI. The flight was completely booked up and I found myself with the extremely bad luck of being stuck in the (sometimes dreaded, lol) middle seat. Now I'm not a tiny guy, but I'm also not a obese guy either. I just have broad shoulders. But anyways I digress, I found myself stuck between to HUGE DUDES, I mean they made me feel tiny. I had to endure that flight for about 3 hours with my shoulders and back contorted sideways. When I finally did get home, I didn't feel anything but tiredness from the flight. But OH MY LORD, did I feel it the next morning. I couldn't move my neck or head at all without feeling an extreme amount of debilitating pain. It took me 2 months before I felt normal again and even now 2 years later, I still have nerve issues. I mean I normally try to upgrade up to business class and when I can't do that I at least try for an isle seat. But that time I couldn't. This was American Airlines, by the way. People laugh about this, I DO NOT find this funny because this caused me an extreme amount of pain and I lost out on a serious amount of income because I was not able to work. Thanks American Airline. And thanks Sydney for telling us about that rule, I will be using that in the future.
As a person who ballooned up to 330 lbs and only 5'9 I hear you. I suffered 2 strokes, 6 heart attacks and developed type 2 diabetes at the age of 45. I pulled my head out and started working on my diet and exercising daily and now I am down to 190 lbs. It's not fat shaming, it is interest or wanting to help your fellow man and prevent an un timely death. Thank you Sydney for shedding light on the silent killer.
Congratulations on the weight loss. I've got about 30 pounds left to go. It can be hard because food is so tempting sometimes. But I go on my trampoline, everyday (almost) and cut out sugar and other carbs.
Good work! Now you get to look forward to not only a longer life, but the quality of that life will be much higher as well!! (I have also struggled with weight, noticed that even simple things like tying your own shoes, can be a challenge!).
Fantastic job!!!! My friend is also 300lbs and 5’9’’. She refuses to lose wt but complains. I have stopped talking to her I can’t handle it anymore 🤦♀️
For real. It’s hard enough to even be on a plane where you can’t get out of that tube when you’re claustrophobic. Penned in like that I’d probably have a panic attack. How would they handle that on a plane!?
I had agoraphobia as a teen for about a year and a half. The key is exposure therapy. That and benzos either as needed during a panic attack or daily and eventually wean off benzos when you have better coping and reduced anxiety due to frequent experience in public.if your doctor or psychiatrist is a coward who won't give benzos, buy phenibut as a supplement online. Phenibut acts on the same receptors as alcohol. GABA b receptor. But not the alcohol high or liver damage. Benzos act on GABA a receptor .
Being oversized due to underlining health issues & my wife is now busy with losing weight after pregnancy diabetes, we actually agree with you. I am going to the gym on a bi-daily bases, and its hard work for me to keep around the weight I currently am. But if someone tells me I am fat, I agree, and we shouldnt tip-toe around it. It has become a pandamic, and normalizing it only expands the problem.
I find this statement FAR more impressive and “brave” than someone being ok with being overweight! Sir, I admire your strength to take responsibility and be honest. You are a breath of fresh air! None of us are perfect in this world, but we can at least be honest about our own situations in life. (And congratulations on the new baby!!!!!!!!!!!)
Coming from a person who struggles with weight. Your NOT fat shaming! In fact THEY are "fat blaming" and refuse to take responsibility for their own life and poor choices on their health. After losing weight, I find myself happier as well as healthier is a plus!
I think you are probably good looking, too,, despite the weight. It is such a common thing, to say an overweight person has such a pretty face. I think it has something to do with the bone structure that enables you to carry extra weight, just my theory. Maybe you gained the weight to ward off unwanted attention?
Those siblings damn well did think about that, you can tell by the fact they sat a seat apart. They didn't want to be squished together, and instead wanted someone squished between them.
Smart Fatties: Let's book an empty seat between us. Dumb Sydney: I'm in the Land of the Horrifically Obese, I'm sure that taking a Middle Seat won't be Problematic.
Maybe we need to look at weight limits and sizes of people the same way luggage is scrutinized at the airport. If your a certain size, you need 2 seats.
I have no idea how you didn’t freak out in that situation. The anxiety and claustrophobia of it all would have me loosing my mind. It’s insane how normal, healthy bodied people have to shove aside their own personal boundaries and comfort to accommodate people who don’t care about accommodating those around them. This country is a clown world.
Having flown in the 60s and 70s, I wonder how many folks nowadays realize how much of a miserable experience flying is today and how much different it used to be. I agree, it's not just air travel. The whole society has turned into 'clown world'. I'm torn between being sad to see our whole society decline into a slow motion disaster and taking comfort in the fact I spent so much of my life in a different world that wasn't so 'third world' and being old enough now that I kind of DGAS.
So much for 'social distancing', right? The Left has the right to DEMAND their own space, and yet we have to get our faces sat-on by people who can't stop stuffing Twinkies in their mouths.
I’m curious- if you were as large as they were, what would the airline have done when all 3 of you couldn’t fit at the same time? And the brother and sister…clearly chose seats away from each other because they know they can’t fit side by side. They were well aware they would be making someone else uncomfortable, and didn’t care.
At an absolute minimum, they could have taken seats in different rows. That would have cost them nothing, and while it wouldn't make them fit properly it wouldn't be *as* bad. Doubling up the encroachment shows that they really have no empathy for others, they either did not think about it, or they thought about it and didn't care. I'm guessing they latter. I'd lay odds that they've done this before, and of course with that seating situation, if the flight was not completely full the middle seat person would move and they'd get an extra seat for free, which is probably what they expected.
I bet they thought if they took a window seat and an aisle seat no one would buy a middle seat with 2 people on either side, and tbh I don't think that's a crazy thing to try, but the fact that he didn't switch is rude.
@@paritybit7830 I’ve had this happen. I’m not the most slender of blokes but had the window seat, the guy next to me was bigger than me and I was already happy I had the window seat. Then the fellow with the aisle seat sat down with a struggle and to say they were overflowing was light. The fellow in the middle got some attention of the flight attendant and got the fellow in the aisle seat moved which I was grateful for not because I was going to be squished but because the smell was horrific and I wanted to eat on the flight. That said I did wonder if they moved them to the exit row which given he struggled to get into the aisle seat to begin with, I’m not sure how he’s getting through these increasingly tightly packed seats to the exit. In this case, I’m sure they’re hoping nobody gets the middle but if it’s a full flight then they just made someone’s day worse and they knew what they were doing in the situation.
The brother and sister were well aware of their size and booked seats apart for a reason. The airlines should ask for your weight while booking and force you to buy two seats.
That used to be a thing. They didn't actually ask your weight but if you were too big to fit in your seat without encroaching on the seat next to you, you had to pay for 2 seats.
I say anyone over 300 lbs should be banned from air travel until such time as they get to a healthy weight. Perhaps that will motivate some of the diabeet-asses out their to get healthy.
Nothing more ENRAGES me when I pay extra for Business Class or Premium Economy Aisle AND someone invariably ASKS me to swap seats so they can sit with their significant others, the”BALLS”!
Yeahhhhh bullshit. Let's be real, you likely had this happen once (if that). And if you're unable to say no to a simple request without getting ENRAGED, then maybe you ought to be doing everyone a favor and staying home until you work out your anger management problems. I travel pretty frequently and have never been asked to swap my business or economy+ seat, nor have I ever seen anyone sitting near me be asked. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill...
@@BrianChing-s9m I, too, travel weekly, sometimes 2X/3X a week, status with Delta and American. It happens more than you think. Sadly, it’s not an easy as you think as other in the cabin look at you like an “oger”. It’s not anger management, you’re probably one of the people that does this and feels “entitled”.
@@BrianChing-s9m You’re mistaken. As a weekly+ flier, it’s happens at least 3 - 4 times a month minimum. Now, I politely ask OUT LOUD if the person sitting next to their significant other would like to trade seats…. It makes an uncomfortable trip. Again, the “entitlement” and “ BALLS” to ask!
@@Raya-ir4tm Airlines are partly to blame here. Both the size of the seats and the space around them have been progressively getting smaller over the decades. They want to pack their customers like sardines to maximize profit. Many airlines don't even allow you to book two seats for one checked-in passenger. Some airlines also over book their flights and your extra seat can be taken away automatically.
That brother and sister did that to you on purpose. That's why they got seats that had a seat in between them. The decided to squash whatever poor soul got that seat rather than just buy the extra seat between them.
That's probably true. They counted on airline staff reseating whatever poor soul got the seat between them, giving them that seat by default. It doesn't work when the flight is full, of course.
I’ve heard that travel agents encourage folks to book the aisle and window seats in a row in the hope that nobody else would choose or book the middle seat, thus giving them more space to spread out.
Sounds like it. And why didn’t they sit together when she asked? Because they both knew they wouldn’t fit side by side. I can’t imagine being stuck between 2 large people and they are sweating on me too 🤮🤮 I don’t want to feel any strangers sweat no matter what size they are!!!!!
@@raimeyewens7518 especially now. Pandemic. You get most of the infections via skin. You get it on the hands, you touch your face. Not that much through the air. So imo right now it's even worse, compared to a few years ago. Now imo it's about safeness, too. Not "just" enjoying the flight. They should be far more concerned about things like that...
As someone who is obese, I agree with you 100%! If the seat is 18 inches wide and you are wider than 18 inches, you need to buy another seat. I don't need 36 inches, but I do need 20. What irritates me is when I buy two seats and they try to sell my second seat!
@@zombiejesus8302 they sold a seat I bought for my 2 year old and I had to have him sit on my lap the whole flight. I’ve heard of people that kick up a fuss about this exact thing and they kick them off.
As an obese person trying to lose weight (25 lbs down!), I completely agree with you. I am so conscious if I have to fly and do everything I can to squeeze myself into my own seat and hug my arms as close as possible in order to not inconvenience others. I haven't had to fly for quite a few years and hopefully by the next time I need to fly I'll be much smaller. From what it looks like from these pictures, I'm much smaller than these two individuals. And, I'm still so conscious if I have to fly of inconveniencing others. The HAES/Body Positivity movement is awful. Everyone should be fatphobia to the degree that we do everything we can to lose weight if obese/overweight or not gain weight if you are a good weight.
Good on you and this shows the difference in attitude and self awareness between you and this brother and sister - I also want to encourage you with your weight loss efforts - it may be difficult or feel impossible but don't give up! It is for YOUR health more than anything else! I highly recommend a book titled Body For Life - while I grew up skinny and never had any issues with being fat - I did gain about 40+ lbs. in my mid-thirties - it finally got to me when I was looking at gaining 5 inches in my waist - inch by inch over a few short years - this book made sense and even though I didn't follow it as strictly as the author proscribed, it worked - and I got in even better shape than I was previously. The premise and basic talking points are: 1. This is not a "diet" - this is a lifestyle change in (a) what foods you can and cannot eat, exercise alone won't cause you to lose weight, it can help to some degree but it really is a change to your diet that will cause you to lose weight. 2. Exercise will help with your body shape - resistance training will help gain muscle and tone, and cardio will help with your overall energy. 3. Once a week you get a "free" day - any diet that tells you that you can never eat a hot fudge sundae or a double bacon cheeseburger is doomed to lead you to failure because - sooner or later you're gonna fall, and then you'll be discouraged and give up. But going from eating 2 bowls of Lucky Charms and 2 slices of heavily buttered toast 7 days a week to 1 day and week made a huge difference for me! 4. In the event you slip up on a day that isn't your free day - pick yourself up and get back on the program - never give up! 5. You won't notice it at first - and I only weighed myself once a week - but people around you will notice and compliment you and this will be encouraging and inspirational - and it will cause you to be encouraging to others for anything positive you notice about them. Congrats to being 25 lbs down! Cheering you on!
This happened to me once (I was active military at the time and flying in uniform). The stewardess who saw my situation was horrified. She wound up taking me up to an empty seat in first class because it was the only other seat available, and she couldn't stop apologizing about the situation. One of the very few times I ever received any professional courtesy from airline staff.
Im a muscular guy with wide shoulders, when im on the alley seat my shoulders get hit by the trolleys. One time i was sitting next to an obese person and i physically couldnt handle it. My back started hurting due to being contoured by this obese guy. I told the flight attendant about it and i managed to swap my seat.
Interesting that two siblings who booked their tickets together ended up with an aisle seat and a window seat. I wonder if they specifically requested that, which would make the entire thing even more messed up.
I am normal BMI, but I’m a man and I’m in the military so whenever I have a window or aisle, I make it very clear to the person stuck in the middle seat that they get to have both armrests and let me know if they need anything from me. I say it clearly so that the other stranger (on their other side) hears me and feels obligated to do likewise.
I had to fly a 100% full Japanese airline when I was overweight (but not to the point of needing extender seatbelts) due to a medical condition & those seats are abnormally smaller than American planes, plus the space between the seats is as well, so I couldn’t get my feet on the ground because my legs were too long for the space, then the guy in the aisle kept slamming the armrest down on my hipbone until I was crying. I asked a flight attendant if I could change seats or if there was anything They could do to help, the mean guy wouldn’t switch & give me the aisle so I could at least sit sort in it with my knees hanging over & didn’t care that he was inflicting pain on me no matter how many times I asked him to stop because he was hurting me. Even though he was being horribly cruel & tbh abusive I was still apologetic & kind to him. After the guy in front of me kept trying to jam his seat back on my knees that couldn’t go down even though I also explained that & kindly asked him to stop, the guy is the window crammed himself as close to the window as possible & moved his feet over & offered me to try to move my feet over & to get as close as possible him so I could stop getting abused by armrest guy. He then apologized for everyone else’s behavior & tried to make me laugh & keep me distracted the rest of the flight. So I really gotta say...People like you are saints.
I once was in the same situation. The man next to me apologized and said he tried to purchase 2 seats but there was not another seat available. He kindly gave me coffee shop gift card and tried very hard not to get too much into my space. We actually had a pleasant conversation for most of the flight, taking my mind off the uncomfortable seat issue. Thankfully it was only an hour and a half flight. Ultimately, I think the airlines need to have larger seats, and charge more for them. Ben, my seatmate was very kind and I appreciated his gesture.
And that is all well and good, but they took a chance and it didn't work. I would do that and then if that middle seat hot sold I would move over. "Dang someone bought the seat. I'll take the middle.:
Interestingly, when seat belt extenders are used, they’re labeled in this manner…on one end they write FAA which stands for Federal Aviation Administration and on the other end they write TSO which stands for Technical Standard Order (which designates certification standards). Now, when you buckle the seatbelt, it spells out FAATSO. Im not even kidding.
As someone who used to be overweight, when people ask me why I lost the weight and got in shape, it's honestly situations like this that were my inspiration. If a beautiful woman like Sydney sits down next to me on a plane, I want her to think "that's a nice looking man" instead of "oh God noooo!".
Thank you! People say it doesn’t matter what others think, but honestly? It kind of does. That’s how we get jobs, friends, partners… what others think of us determines so much about our lives. Congratulations also! 🍾 that’s awesome that you took initiative and put in the hard work
When I was younger, I used to love to go to all-you-can-eat buffets with my family, and you always noticed the fat people and watched how much they took (I once saw a HUGE black dude literally take the ENTIRE tray of crab legs - that had just been put-out - back to his table!) Now I am a very fat person, and the very first time I saw others watching me in a restaurant, I stopped going. I don't want to be 'that guy' that others whisper about ("OMG! Look at how much they are taking!") Bullying serves an important function in society - it either makes you 'get better', or hide in shame. Both are acceptable outcomes for when you have no control over your own desires.
I had a window seat on a flight. Ready to sleep and the middle and aisle sat down both obese and I was literally pushed into the the window. Fortunately the flight attendant saw my predicament and moved me and dropped me a few free cocktails 😅
I'm 6ft 4in tall and on a flight to Hawaii I had my knee slammed into by a stewardess and then got berated because I couldn't get my knee out of the isle. My other knee was in my wife's area and I tried to explain this to her but she didn't want to hear it. The person in front of me wouldn't even consider sitting up. I should of sued because I actually have a torn meniscus from her slamming my knee. The thing is she didn't even care either way about my knee or the fact I didn't fit in my seat.
They intentionally chose their seats so that they would not be sitting next to each other. It was literally their plan to try and give themselves more room by crushing the person in the middle seat.
This is why I always pay more for an isle seat. On an 12 hour flight back home, a mother asked me if I was travelling alone and if I could swap seats so she, her husband and daughter can sit together. I asked if the other seat she booked was an Isle seat and she said no. So I immediately said no. She wasn't happy about and when I left the plane, I saw why. The daughter was overweight and sat in the middle of two other obest people. She had been crying all flight because she was squashed. I did feel for her yet I thought, that could have been me and I had paid more for my seat then she did. My grandmother said I was selfish and I said no, they are. I paid extra for my seat because I wanted that seat and I am not overweight! They're the selfish ones for expecting other people to splash out for their required room! I am so sorry you had to go through that!
Don't feel bad at all. I typically fly business class, but especially on short notice I often fly coach. No biggie, but being the germophobe, i often buy the middle seat too. I'm a skinnier guy, and I just like the extra space. Often someone asks me to swap seats or someone will sit in the vacated spot. I always politely explain that I purchased that seat, and grown adults have such a problem with that it's mind boggling. I'm very aware that some people can't afford to do the same, trust me, I get it. It's weird and I'm weird, but it's my money and my seat, and I shouldn't have to explain my reasoning to anyone. I used to get guilted into it, but the more I tell people about it, the more I see others doing the same. Point is, sit in the seat you bought, and don't get mad when someone doesn't want to share with strangers.
It’s a luxury, and I think people don’t realize that. Like if someone bought a new car and another person bought a dingy car that was broken. The person who bought the new car is not then obligated to give their car to the person who bought the dingy broken car. It’s a luxury. Take the bus if you cannot afford a functioning car 🤦 It’s not up to the flight attendants to sort you out if you make people uncomfortable you should then get kicked out by all rights. Flying is a luxury and there are other means of transportation. If you don’t fit in your seat and only your seat, buy another seat. I am not looking forward to moving out of my city for this reason because I am anticipating having to fly in 😂
If the parents weren't happy about their own daughter being squished between 2 obese people, they were more than welcome to trade their own seats with her. How surprising that was never an option /s
A lot of us had to learn to not be people pleasers, have boundaries, and being cool with people being unhappy with us. My upbringing made all of those things, stuff that I had to learn as an adult, and gosh, oh how important is it to learn it! There’s a saying that goes, “Givers need to learn how to stop giving, because takers never stop taking.” So don’t let anyone say you’re selfish for looking out for yourself. It’s actually just not being a doormat.
I had a nightmare trip similar to yours a while ago. Nine hours of being sweated on. Nine hours of forced intimacy. Even having the other passanger drooling on me while they kept nodding off on my left shoulder. AAAAAGH!!!
I had a similar situation… I was equally frustrated and beside myself. This happened 25 years ago and I still remember the body odor and the absolute violated feeling… I’m 5’2” and small in general and it was excruciating.
I'm fairly obese myself. If I noticed I was practically crushing you like that, I would have felt incredibly guilty and tried to do something about it immediately. What the hell la-la land were those two in?
I'm a "fatty-fat-fat" and I definitely feel for you! I do what I can to change myself, because of course, but I do NOT consider you to be fat shaming - not by a LONG shot. Sorry you had to deal with that. I'm also even more sympathetic to your worse experience dealing with our sick society that would treat you as if YOU are the problem. You are not the problem; you're a champ. Love your work. Keep it up!
@@pyropulseIXXI I don't think we need to fat shame. I'm fat because of severe depression, suicidality and stress so yeah someone reminding me of something I'm very well aware of is not going to help me in any positive way. I'm trying to tackle my issues one at a time and unfortunately losing weight is not my priority at the moment. But I do agree with her that she shouldn't have been in this situation and if you're wedged between two fat people on a plane they should be buying two tickets. Personally, I don't plan on travelling by airplane until I lose weight.
@@pyropulseIXXI I understand where you're coming from, but that can cause the opposite effect: people slipping further into depression, feeling that they're rejected by society and overeating even more as a result. You're not gonna get a better person by telling them "you're horrible". Same here. What we have to do is educate people on reasons *why* it's wrong, and advise and offer help to overcome this issue.
I had to get an MRI done and when scheduling they asked if I weighed more than 450 lbs. After I stopped laughing I said, ‘I hope not!’ If they have to ask that because you literally won’t fit in the thing if you’re that big, can’t they do the same for plane flights?
@@Bellthorian they might be making them bigger. I remember hearing stories from the local zoo that would help local hospitals by letting them use their large medical facility for some patients.
Exactly this! On planes space = $$$ If you want more space, be prepared to pay more. It's super selfish and entitled to expect that the airline (a private business) should accommodate your size for free. Just no! Because it's not free and everybody else will just end up having to pay more.
Maybe a new Airline policy would be paying by weight or pay by your with. The common theme of the video was if you're too wide for the seat pay for a second seat.
I don’t care if you’re obese or as a thin as a rod - I don’t like anyone invading my personal space it freaks me out. So I feel your pain. And for sure one those siblings should have switched with you.
They didn’t even have to buy two seats, they could have bought the middle seat together since they were brother and sister… they could have split the cost of the middle seat. Happy travelling for everyone
Manatees should not be flying.... transport them how the Zoo does it. A truck in a little wading pool and hose them down every now and again so they don't overheat😐 they totally knew what they were doing....even they didn't want to sit next to each other ffs
This really touched home for me because I am overweight and always very conscious to do everything I can to be as small as possible in my seat to avoid infringing on someone's space. I don't go into the other seat but it's still a tight fit. I absolutely understand where you are coming from and I think the airline should be ashamed of their response, as should others raging at you for complaining. I don't think you are a fat-shamer or the bad guy for voicing your distress over the situation. You are right that we all deserve the space we are paying for and if someone is so obese that they infringe on the seat of another, they should buy business or two seats or not fly.
Im tiny... and im not fat shaming, but tall people, or well built men seem to feel its their right to have their elbows into my ribcage, legs spread so i cant move mine sideways to shift butt position... or any other method of squishing me into 1/3 of my seat....! On one flight, i had to climb over the headrests to get out to go to the bathroom... that was a mission, cause the 7 foot tall, 6 feet wide in the shoulders was sound asleep and unable to be woken!.... It happens regularly... because im little its almost an expectation i wont mind!... I also get long legs poked into my back if someone tall is sat behind me... My son is tall, very tall, so i understand the problems, and usually dont get too wound up....hazzards of flying.... Under certain circumstances i will quietly assert my rights to my seat but i try to do it very low key Makes life interesting lol....
Former 400 lb woman here. I am now less than half of my former self! I totally get it Sydney. Having been that obese person, I always opted for business class so I could fit there without bothering others. If for some reason, I HAD to fly regular, I got the aisle seat, brought a seatbelt extender with me, and hung my hip/leg on the aisle outside so that my side next to someone didn't squish them. Yes, I had issues with the little cart and people walking by but I never assumed it was their problem. It was MY problem. So I 99% of the time paid for the larger seat. Most of these fat queens are younger women who haven't stopped to think about their inconvenience to others. Nor do they think about what will happen when they get older. I hate to think what I would be like if today at 67 I were still 400 pounds. Please keep speaking out. Fat-shaming is a myth.
3:03 This has nothing to do with politics at all. I am centre-left wing and it would make me extremely uncomfortable to have to sit next to 2 obese people
Some rides at theme/amusement parks have a sample seat at the front, and if you can’t get on/in that seat, you can’t ride. We need to have this at airports.
I am a very large person, not obese, but very large framed at 6'7" and north of 350 lbs. I also don't fit in airplane seats and would have gone out of my way to not impose too much on the neighboring seat(s). Accepting people as they are comes with the accepted person recognizing their impact on the people around them and, in this case, doing what is possible to alleviate the situation. As you said, I usually am asked to move to help make everyone comfortable or I try to purchase the second seat to make everyone comfortable. Normal sized people don't fit well in airplane seats today. Why make it worse.The airline should have upgraded you or moved you, if space was available.
6'7" and over 350lbs is by definition clinically obese. Your BMI is over 35.1; over 30 is obese. You should check your body fat percentage. Over 25% is obese for a man. True that height is a problem for standard airplane seats, but the fuel to carry you is twice the cost of an average person, so perhaps double size seats should be made available on airlines for larger passengers, at higher cost, of course.
@@lalithrockz That is why I said to check fat %. The definition is based on BMI, therefore it can include muscle. My point was that large folk don't fit, I don't care if it is fat or muscle if they sit in a big seat away from me.
I’m 6’4” (not obese) and have a wide frame and shoulders. On the exceedingly rare occasion I end up in a tight seat, I instinctively try to “narrow” my shoulders out of respect for those near me. In a situation similar to yours, I’d literally exit the plane and wait for another flight unless getting home at that time was critically important. Practically speaking, it would simply be unbearable to me.
i'm the same way - however i'm 5'3 and i know i'm a bit more on the chunky side, and i always always ALWAYS try and squish myself in to the point where i'm not touching another person. i also have mental issues that cause sensory issues, and so touching another person i don't know is essentially a huge no-no on my part. i know that i'm not fat enough to warrant two seats, thank our good Lord, but even then i'd rather buy two seats than inconvenience others.
Yup. 6'2'' 215 with a long upper torso (which is good since legs are relatively short for my height and slide under the seat in front of me). This is one reason it's always great to travel with a small person - they can take the middle seat.
They need to bring back modern versions of the "Boeing Stratosphere" including the incorporated classiness. Otherwise, I admit I'm a bit hefty myself and if I was to fly somewhere I would expect to pay for 2 seats(unless was in First Class which tends to be roomier).
I would have fake coughed the entire time and talked about how the doctors just could not figure it out and it was just getting worse and maybe contagious.
You could even poke the body parts that invade your space over and over, and over. If they say something you can reply hey thats my seat. And keep poking. Until they ask to be seated somewhere else or agree to that seat swap...
I'm so sorry you have gone through this situation. I'm a flight attendant myself, and if it were on one of my flights, I would have tried to change your seat or at least invited you to stay in the galley during the cruise. I honestly think an extra seat should be mandatory for over-sized people, especially nowadays with space between seats being more and more reduced.
That's a good call. I used to fly a lot when I was in the military, and was pretty big (broad shoulders). I usually get up a lot, when I can, just to give people some room around me. I had one long trip (post deployment on contract air) with 2 guys my size and we couldn't even eat at the same time.
That’s what gets me here. We don’t let people on to rollercoasters at all if they don’t fit the dimensions. Can you imagine the discomfort/embarrassment of trying to get the cart past the aisle-sitting passenger? (I’m not a flight attendant so I don’t really know if it’s a thing.) Would they have complained of you hit/touched them with it? What if you accidentally injured them? (Going by, turbulence jerks y’all around, and they get a bruise or something from the cart.) I’m not even worried about why they’re so large - doesn’t matter to me, really. Being a huge framed muscular person, eating themselves fat or having a medical condition - doesn’t matter. The result is what it is on a plane. If the person doesn’t buy the extra seat, why don’t they get bumped to the next flight that can accommodate them? They should have planned for the space needed for themselves. They’re big and fabulous. They deserve to treat themselves to that extra seat.
@@stub4958 ooo. Fair point. I didn’t even think about the broad shouldered. I would imagine even body builders may need to buy an extra seat when flying, no? (Gotta edit my other comment. Lol)
@@stub4958 as a nearly 6'4" broad shoulder guy myself her experience is my every flight now. I can't sit back without displacing other people. Armrests dig into my hips. It's ridiculous. Bring back the 90's seat configurations that extra 3" was reasonable these new configurations are inhumane.
They do have self awareness, that's why when checking in to their flight, knowing how large they are and how they 'encroach' on the seat next to them (we know they know this since they're siblings so this didn't just happen by chance), they chose seats separated when most family members would chose adjacent seats. They did this specifically so the person that will be forced to be uncomfortable will not be either of them.
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Since filming this - I've been asked on national TV to discuss it and other articles have popped up. I'm still at a loss why this is even news, but like I said at the end of this video - if this somehow starts a conversation about obesity and how we attempt to justify and excuse it, then I'm happy for that. Nobody should have to sit through this type of situation. And American Airlines - you call me any time to negotiate my reparations. ;D
🥒 I find it refreshing that you care about this :D
It involves their new protected class so they'll want you to explain why the crueI tee
When you promote the underwear could you add a touch of echo?
I woke up way too early only to see you pet your pickle.
i think i need your help sydney, my pickle wont fit in the new Sheath underwear i bought
They have BIGGER problems to worry about ;)
I think regardless of viewpoints on this, fundamentally, if you pay for a seat on an airline, you should be entitled to the surface area of that seat. No "overflow" from other passengers.
Exactly. You don't pay for a bed and then get told someone else will be using 1/4 of it for the duration of your stay.
big facts
A bit surprised myself as some airlines (not saying names) make certain people pay for 2 seats to "balance" the plane.
This happened to me on a Southwest flight. I complained afterwards and asked for 1/3rd of my seat price refunded. I wasn't expecting them to refund the full price.
Edit. Yes, Southwest airlines refunded the full seat price. This was in 2009, Jacksonville to Vegas flight.
And their response:
Dear Oliver,
We regret that you experienced an uncomfortable flight when you recently traveled with us since another Customer's girth encroached upon your space onboard the aircraft. As you may know, we have a policy in place that requires any Customer who cannot be safely, comfortably, and completely accommodated in one seat with both armrests in the down position to purchase the number of seats occupied. We require and expect our Ground Operations personnel and Flight Attendants to ensure that everyone onboard our flights has adequate seating space.
Admittedly and humbly, our Employees should have recognized the seating needs of this Customer of size before boarding began. Additionally, had our Flight Attendants noticed the seating problem prior to takeoff, they should have contacted station personnel to make arrangements to allow this Customer of size to occupy two seats. If the flight is completely full, then our Employees should either solicit for a volunteer to take a later flight with compensation or offer to accommodate the Customer of size so they can occupy the necessary seat(s). We regret that this situation was not addressed and handled appropriately before takeoff.
As a gesture of goodwill for your inconvenience, we have refunded your one-way ticket to the original form of payment used. Please allow one to two billing cycles for the credit to post. I am hopeful that you will accept this gesture in the spirit intended.
Again, we appreciate your taking time out of your day to let us know about your recent experience. We hope that you will not allow this rare occurrence to forever deter you from flying with us in the future as we would LUV the opportunity to serve you again and show you our strong commitment to our Customers.
Sincerely,
Jessica, Southwest Airlines
The file reference number for your e-mail is 143770321.
@@proudpatriot3491 I like that. Weaponized social discourse
Looking at the fact that the brother/sister combo bought tickets with a seat in between them tells you they knew they were too big to fit comfortably in that space and hoped they would either squeeze a smaller person in between them or hope no one bought that seat. They should have split the cost of the third seat to have that space.
She said she requested the middle seat. They probably scheduled after her & those where the only two seats left.
I agree. They purposely booked the window and aisle seats because those give you the most leg room, etc., and that's why they didn't want to switch with her.this In fact this lady said she always tries to book aisle seat so the brother/sister booked first, and then this lady booked after them. I completely agree...they were hoping no one would book that middle seat. Anyway, I wouldn't have handled it lime she did. She should have taken a f!ight attendant aside during the flight (not after) privately and see what they can do. Maybe they had empty business class seats that they could have moved her to? I think where she went wrong was broadcasting this situation publicly and thus possibly shaming the other two passengers. Should have handled this privately, during the flight, IMO.
@@yadayada752 She did say that she would have requested the aisle seat. And hence it wasn't available, she went for the middle seat. Therefore, she did book her ticket AFTER they did.
I thought the same thing, fucking chancers. They knew exactly what they were at
@@naijagerd7909 how do you know a random stranger will be an obese person?
It's amazing that the airline admits people come in all shapes and sizes and still have one size fits all seats.
nope. no they don’t. if you don’t fit in am economy seat, fly first class
THAT PART LIKE WOW
@@thectyptid00 then the problem is that they should use a balance before boarding the plane. (of course the employees can clearly see with their eyes).
perhaps creating a database of gran-fatsos.
AMEN!
The size of cattle class seats are great for little kids under 12.
For adults, it's pretty uncomfortable. For tall people it's a nightmare.
A friend of mine is very obese. When he takes a plane, he buys two seats. He says if you take up more than the one seat, you should be required to buy two.
Yeah but then the greedy airline which has overbooked the flight will take that seat for someone else. You can try to protest but you'll probably get blacklisted or even thrown off.
If they were siblings and they didn't get seats next to each other, but with a space between, I assume that is because they knew it would impossible to sit next to each other
They probably bought the end seats hoping nobody else would pick the middle and then they'd get the row for the price of 2 seats.
Yeah that's gotta be intentional. They know they can't physically fit next to each other so they book seats at each end not giving a shit about the poor soul trapped in hell between them. Humans are awful.
The A-holes should have been obliged to purchase the tween seat.
Opportunistic thinking
Exactly, that's why they didn't want to switch seats. Their comfort is more important.
The brother and sister definitely did this intentionally, they booked their seats apart because they knew if they sat together they wont have enough space.
Exactly. And they knew someone was going to be stuck between them. Almost always, a brother / sister, husband / wife, friends, book their tickets sitting next to each other.
yes, the middle seat should either have been forfeited or charged to the people either side proportionality.
I swear to God if I was in the same situation, I would find a way to fart and burp every 2 minutes, and I would swallow some disgusting crap, like some toothpaste + a bit of lipstick + some of my pee, so I could puke every 5 minutes. Then, I would wait to see if any of those fat rhinos would dare making some comments about...comfort... and quality of the flight.
Because, hey, if they are allowed to steal 70% of your seat, maybe you are allowed to fart...
Then, I would eat some crap, and I would puke 4 or 5 times...
What a selfish human beings....
It would have been funny as hell if they do it again and the person in the middle seat is bigger than they are 😂
But they are part of the untouchable class in America. They do whatever they want and if you call them out on it you’re a bigotist.
"Our passengers come in all shapes and sizes" but our seats are NOT one size fits all.
On a transatlantic flight every extra pound of weight burns an extra pound of fuel, so if passengers come in all shapes and sizes tickets should come in all prices to reflect this
I was once charged excess on my baggage because it was overweight, then spent the flight squeezed onto 2/3 of my seat next to what appeared to be a land mammal of some kind, and must've weighed twice as much as myself and my baggage combined.
@@otterspocket2826 technically, land mammal describes every human...i think you meant land whale
@@75ur15 Very true. You speak great wisdom.😉
And we'll charge you if your bag is over by 500 grams....... because we don't accept that suitcases come in all shapes and sizes......
@@otterspocket2826 Hmmm... "A land mammal". Maybe an Ork, or a Giant perhaps. The fact that you survived the flight, means it wasn't an Ork.😊 Seriously though, the airlines charging for extra baggage weight, but doing nothing about people that are above a certain size. Is basically them picking the "low hanging fruit", while not dealing with a problem that will get them negative press coverage. Stay well and safe travels.👍👍😊
What if you had been as big as them? The only way they were able to get away with this BS is because you are in shape and can fit in a third of a seat. That’s so messed up. How dare they give you a hard time when you were the one subjected to this miserable flight. That ticket was paid for. Just because it wasn’t specifically by you shouldn’t matter. I can’t believe what is happening to the world,
I was wondering the same, what if other obese person buy the middle seat? 🙄
Honestly, shouldn't people flying be charged by their weight, just like cargo? I mean don't heavier people equate to higher fuel cost? What if the entire cabin was obese, maybe the plane might capsize?
@@neobahumut707Yep, we pay for any excess baggage, whilst obese carrying excess baggage don't.
The weird thing is, the same consideration is rarely given to overly tall people in society, something we know they can’t control.
I'm only a few inches above average for a male, and I still have to deal with things like my knees hitting what is in front of me when I sit.
@googlehomemini It does get rather old.
Bingo
American is particularly bad due to their universally scrunched seating. As an NFL linebacker-sized male, I hate how bad the airlines have gotten in smooshing people into their planes.
I’m playing the World’s Tallest Violin for you Poor Oppressed Giants.
Maybe you should start a Tall Lives Matter Movement, to officially establish your Victimhood Status.
the fact they were siblings and purposely bought seats that were not next to each other meant that they knew they weren't gonna have enough space yet they chose not to buy the middle seat but rather let some stranger suffer instead.
Didn't even realise that but yea...that makes it even worse
Yep
they maybe couldn't afford it
@@turqussy if they can afford to have so much food readily available to them that they can become obese, i’m sure they can afford a plane ticket
@@areebah8297 not everyone is obese due to food, but i dont want to get in a stupid fight
It's crazy that their comfort was more important than your comfort. Shouldn't all three be comfortable?
Virtue-signalling making the world worse..
The airline doesn't want to alienate fatties, but the airline knows healthy sized people will travel regardless, so opts to support the fat passengers and appease the Twitter mob.
Didn't you know that the left only pampers to sick and ill people?
Anything to virtue-signaling but saying f you to everyone else is not really virtuous is it
Exactly
nah, thats anarchism
You should have continually gotten up to use the bathroom until he got sick of getting up
😂😂😂
I sat next to a man one time that was probably 450 pounds. He looked shocked that I was willing to sit next to him. He told me the middle seat was also his but that we could share it if I needed to set anything down there. Really nice man that bought two seats because he was that big.
That is a responsible, kind human.
he's a responsible and considerate guy. wish him well and i hope he gets to a healthy weight before it's too late
@@elyeliza8287 well he has been trying to end his time on earth for the 15 years before I met him. Long story short he was an extremely active man and then had back surgery and his spine fused. He wanted to end his life but through natural causes. Man hadn’t drank water in ten years and constantly has dip in his mouth for the last twelve years. He said he kept going to the doctor hoping for cancer or something crazy and he would have a full work up regularly and he was in perfect health. The dentist said his teeth were in perfect health despite having dip in his lip constantly. His story was truly fascinating and heartbreaking at the same time.
Use him as a big body pillow!
@@UPBEATFOREVER If he's not a stinky dude, it's possible. Unfortunately, fat people are bad on the hygiene part since they can't bend enough to wash every part and folds are filled with smelly stuff. Some manage well.
As a fattie myself, I don't blame Sydney for being upset about being squished. This is one of the reasons why I typically fly first class, so I'm comfortable but also not smooshing someone else. When I can't afford first class, I fly comfort plus and so I can at least stretch my legs out and I just fold my arms so I'm not touching anyone. I do this for myself as much as everyone else. I mean, I don't want to be touched either.
Exactly, same reason I fly first class.
Cause you're a conscientious person with class. Wish the world had a higher population of such folks.
Are you Estonian?
@@moisuomi dual citizen American and Estonian. Grew up in America. If I had grown up in Estonia, I probably wouldn't be fat XD
@@LK1989 Understood. I am Finnish and I consider Estonia to be our brother country
As a frequent flyer, I understand perfectly your pain.
If I pay for ONE SEAT, they need to give me ONE SEAT. Not 1/2 of a seat and then airline tell me that I am not as important as the fat people.
Those two fat brother and sister bought intentionally the seats separated by one seat, because they KNEW they will inconvenience each other. They were actually evil... they needed to buy the seat between them too.
Edit: Doing purposely harm to another human is evil. They knew what they were doing, without any regard to others.
I think it was less evil, and more missing the big picture. They WANTED the free space, but didn't have the foresight to BUY the seat for themselves.
Jajajajaja OMG jajajaja man, can't believe it XD I think people should be able to ask for their right to a seat
@@MissShembre I don't think we should be making excuses for them, and I say that as someone who is overweight myself but can easily fit in ONE airplane seat).
Not paying for the space you WANT and just TAKING it from someone smaller is being nasty.
If they hadn't done this intentionally, they wouldn't mind to swap seats (but they knew it would get very uncomfortable if they sat next to each other).
I've never refused to switch seats with anyone, even though I DON'T use more than 1 seat of space.
The only time I ever used more than one seat on an airplane was on a flight where I felt really sick; the stewardesses noticed and offered me to lie down in an empty row. But as said, that was ON INVITATION, not by pushing my fat belly into someone else's space.
Yes! THEY wanted space, but they don't want to spend their money on an extra ticket.
@@MissShembre The fact they didn't move when Sydney asked is very telling that they're probably self-centered. Evil.
Sue the airline. Make it a class action suit. You paid for something that they did not give you.
That's true.
What’s worse is these two siblings KNEW what they were doing by choosing the two seats they did.
Yes.... they did it on purpose knowing that the passenger in the middle will just try to escape so they would have all the 3 seats for themselves. Sydney should have protested to them first, then to the flight attendants. She paid for that seat (doesn't matter if someone else paid, it was her ticket), she was entitled to the full seat of hers, without having anyone else encroaching on her space.
@@dinos9607 The very least, Sydney should be move the aisle side (if there is no other seat available) so she has at least 1 side not being squished.
I would've just taken a picture and walked off the plane... Later flight plus apology and voucher for drinks to forget about having to see those creatures.
@@dinos9607 you’re probably right!!! I didn’t even think about that! That was probably their way of trying to get that extra seat for free knowing nobody would want to be smashed in between them
They probably thought no one would buy a single middle seat and they would have the extra room.
What scares me is trying to get OUT of the plane incase of an emergency with people like that blocking you in
@googlehomemini That is basically what George Carlin said though a bit more colorfully.
Be grateful they didn't have a support St. Bernard with them.
THIS is exactly why the airlines have a policy of purchasing two seats. It’s is partially to pay for extra weight being flown and using fuel, but a majority is for SAFETY. A large person simply needs more space to move in any direction and would require that space to exit in an emergency. It’s the DUTY of flight attendants to address this.
I was just going to say this!
Rocket, just climb over them, they will probably stop to get their overhead luggage anyway. If you know you have to get out (in an emergency) get out anyway you can.
What I wonder is, since they claim to give these seats at random regardless of passenger size, what happens if the person in the middle is also oversized? They blame the plane seats for being fatphobic?
I don’t even doubt that would be the case
Basically used. Watch Michelle mcdaniels videos
That would be great to see. You know they would need help to get out of the seat. Think of the suction.
Put the fat folks together
I am 6'3" and overweight. (But not as overweight at Syndey's bookends!!!)
I do not fly because the last time I did I could barely stand after a one-hour flight with my knees wedged hard enough against the seat in front of me to deform the back-plate of that seat.
I also spend the entire flight holding my arms in front of me to avoid impinging on the space of the passengers to either side of me.
I was in back, neck and shoulder pain for hours after that last flight.
Fun fact: a hotel I worked in had a mini van shuttle to the city center. It took 8 passengers tops and you had to reserve your place. One day the driver had it fully booked and discovered that all the 8 passengers were not able to depart together because they simply couldn't fit inside! Those were all american tourists, obese to an extreme. The cheif of the reception team advised to take into consideration the size of the passenger, and maybe stop at 6, not 8.
As someone who is on as plane 50 times a year, you’re absolutely correct. Keep speaking out, we have your back!
Are you airline steward or pilot?
moral of the story, we eat 400 calories a day less than in the 60s but everyone is fat as f*ck.
as someone never seen a plane from the inside i would also agree
As someone who flies about 150 times a year I agree. It’s not a dick measuring contest of course but if it was I would win ;)
50 flights a year? That's adorable, lol. 🤣
I had this happen to me. I stopped before sitting down. Took a blunt photo. Went straight to the flight attendant and said, “I paid for a full seat, I expect a full seat. It is not even physically possible for me to fit there.” They moved me immediately. Somehow I doubt that would happen today.
That's exactly how I would have handled the situation from the start.
Today, they would likely throw you off the plane and put you on a no fly list for 'hate speech'
As a large person 6'6" 325, there are certain airlines I stopped flying on. American is one of them. It is the responsibility of the large person to not encroach on other people's space. I did buy two tickets on a few occasions or flew first class. I usually had legroom problems rather than side to side issues. The airlines are always trying to squeeze a few more seats onboard so they are complicit in this too. Love Sydney's content!
Yep! Planes used to have 55 inches seat space when commercial flights started becoming a thing (1940's - 50's). Now, the seats are made with 35 inches of space. That's from outside arm rest to outside arm rest, and no space between the neighboring seat. So take out 5 inches for the arm rests and you have 30 inches of seat space to sit in, and you'd better hope your neighbor doesn't like resting their elbows on the arm rest, because there's not going to be any room for you.
You are absolutely correct. Seat widths have diminished over time. I have a friend who is an engineer who works in the design and structural concerns in the interior of airplanes. Planes that are currently 6 seats across were designed to be 5 seats across. And I can personally attest to this, I'm old enough to remember when they were configured correctly. Some airlines are far worse than others.
@@Dakarn some seats are 27 inches, just seat width, not including arms
And, unfortunately, many people don’t care about anybody than themselves.
Remember when Hollister clothing discontinued plus sizing? Even though there was an outcry they basically gave the large people the middle finger and went ahead.
Thank you for your sympathy towards others.
UNBELIVABLE! You are shamed for wanted to use your own seat you payed for??!!!! What kind of hell is this?!! Only in the US!
I say this as an obese woman: if you are so fat that you take up the space of two seats on a plane, then it is your own responsibility to buy two tickets. I'm tired of people being so damn sentitive to the truth. The decisions I've made regarding my own body/food/health should NOT, in ANY way, affect others negatively. It's my own responsability to keep that from happening. You are 100% right, Sydney.
Thank you for your honesty!
I disagree. If you are obese, then its the AIRLINES duty to provide for the extra seat. By your logic, kid tickets should be half price.
Don't give companies leeway
You write "NOT, in ANY way, affect others negatively". From my reading, "healthy obesity" is an oxymoron. Being obese means being waaay overweight. You may be measurably in 'better' condition than other obese ppl but you're not healthy. So when you need all of the extra medical care YOU WILL REQUIRE because of the complications your excess weight has caused you, that cost will be shared by EVERY OTHER CITIZEN in their own medical and insurance bills and even a doctor's availability.
@@Random_dud31 why should airlines provide seats for blobs when it then means they can't carry more people and nothing will stop the blobs from getting cheeper seats if you take up 2 seats you either pay for 2 seats or else others will have to experience what Sydney experienced or you can stop eating to be able to fit in your seat.
If you can't fit in your seat don't fly
If I was a flight company I would have a rule in place that if you can't fit in the seat you paid for you either get kicked off the flight without a refund because they stopped a passenger from flying or they can pay for another seat
@Pascalo Bro, are you actually defending airline companies. They literally made the seats smaller. I remember in 2005 the seats were bigger.
And 2, how about people who are big. Like dwayne johnson figure. He's not obese.
Coming from someone who used to be obese, i am 5'6" and at my heaviest I was 260lbs, I was always aware of myself and my size. It wasn't anyone else's fault that I was the size that I was but my own. I always made sure to avoid encroaching on someone else's space if I could help it. I have lost a lot of weight over the years and stay between 170-180lbs. I'm still considered overweight I believe but I'm extremely happy with myself now and the size that I'm at.
Congratulations on your weight loss, Hayley. That is quite an accomplishment.💕
Great job on the weight loss!
As for your current weight, it is all down to body mass make up. I'm 5'6" and due to weight training for endurance I come in at 210, but due to the muscle mass that is a healthy weight for me. As training for endurance doesn't bulk you up, most people think I weigh 20-40 less than I do. The weight guessers at the theme parks hate me. The point is, that if you lost the weight through exercise, you may have added some muscle to your body which is a good thing.
Kudos to you for improving yourself. It’s not easy! I’m glad you’re happy and healthier.
Self awareness is key. I also used to be a very large individual. I would always try and make jokes if my weight was an issue. Like being in an elevator with a skinny person. I’d be like don’t worry I’m not exceeding the 3000 pound weight limit 😂
Congrats on your achievement to get healthy and loss weight, that's awesome!!!
As an introvert, and someone who doesn't like being touched in any way by strangers, this would have been torture. No, this is definitely not ok at all, period. Having some stranger squashed into you from both sides is insane.
Another introvert here, this situation is straight up nightmare fuel. I probably would've spent the flight in quiet panic mode with a few tears. I really can't stand my bubble being invaded without expressed permission.
When women touch you and think it’s okay and you have to like it as a man.
Touching me without my consent. Disgusting.
Yeah it wouldn't be ok for any other person to just lean into you or hold themselves on you, so I don't understand why this world ignores that happening due to fatness. I would've probably escaped into the damn bathroom and spend my time there instead when being allowed to be out of my seat.
My social anxiety is already hard to tolerate in a plane, something like this would... I have no idea how I could have managed it. I would've probably had to insist they change seats to be next to one another and hope I can squish on the edge seat or ask the flight crew to put me into their rest area to deal with my panic attack or something.
Do you have a concealed permit? if not you should have. So you can defend your right not to be fat slabbed!
I'm not jesting, I am Death!
I agree 👍💯%. Your personality totally resonates with mines cause I'm very reserved/introverted by nature as well. I'm an introvert by nature & only socialize with people when the situation is needed otherwise I just stay in my shell 🐚. I'm like a hermit crab :-)🦀♋.
My husband and I went on a flight recently and due to his size, we purchased an extra seat for him. We were on a small plane with only two seats on each side of the aisle so my seat was supposed to be in the row across from him. I was informed when I got on the plane my seat needed to be changed. Ok, no big deal, I'm just happy to be going on vacation. Until I got to my new seat assignment which was next to a larger man. I had to spend the entire flight leaning into the aisle so his body would not be touching mine. Like you, I am not ok with a stranger touching my body, nor should I be made to feel like I should be ok with it because the person touching me is a larger person. Not to mention the girl behind me that was bouncing her head off the back of my seat the entire time while she slept (my husband was in the row behind her and told me later what happened when I told him I didn't know what the hell the person behind me was doing) and the man sitting across the aisle from me that was noisily bouncing his leg the entire time. It was the worst flight I've ever experienced. If you're an obese person you know it and are well aware of the fact you will not fit in an airplane seat and should be made to purchase two seats. If you cannot afford it, then you shouldn't be flying. Sorry, not sorry.
My husband had bariatric surgery and has lost 160 lbs and hopefully will only need one seat the next time we fly but if not we will again purchase two seats for him. Because no one should be made uncomfortable for the choices he has made to overfeed his body.
It's not fat shaming to stand up and say "I am not ok with you being in my personal space or touching my body".
Why didint you go sit with your husband then?
@@taikajorma7276 I had my reasons.
@@mirandagolightly weird
Thank you for being reasonable
@@mirandagolightlyWhat an ominous response.
I've got to say it, there are far too many overweight people these days. I'm only 46 and when I was a kid, we had a far healthier society. Keeping fit shouldn't be done to conform to anything, it should be done for a person's own wellbeing, comfort and longevity.
I’m 28 and we had fewer intensely overweight people too.
You and I are part of the same generation, so I know exactly what you mean. For that matter, people can look at old footage from the 1950s, '40s, etcetera, and see that even the heavier people were 'portly' rather than obese. The 'heavy' of yesteryear is the 'average' or even 'fairly fit' of today. All the junk in the food now, (disrupts normal hormone function), plus so many people being on medications that also mess with hormones, and the recent tech and societal changes that encourage inactivity are at the root of it, to my way of thinking. And I would lay most of the blame on the food and medications.
@@Ghost_Os Very good points, I agree completely.
I'm 43 and I remember plenty of fatties from back in the day. Let's keep it real
People had more to live for decades ago. Now, we're all pretty much fucked: costs are higher all around than they've ever been, politicians are having pissing contests instead of doing their jobs, rich people and corporations are getting richer while the poor get poorer, everyone is angry and divisive about everything to the point of destroying families, fake news is running rampant, climate is getting worse (maybe not as bad as some people say, but still progressively worse) and we're possibly on the cusp of WW3. It's a wonder that even more people haven't just given up and eaten themselves to death out of sheer depression. It also doesn't help that 80% of what we buy has addictive substances in it, primarily sugar. Not taking blame away from fat people necessarily, just saying all these outside factors don't help.
You should respond to the airline’s tweet of “Our passengers come in all shapes and sizes…” with, “Then why are your seats the same size and designed for a anorexic toddler?”
The seats are designed for normal sized humans and have been just fine up until we entered the Age of the Enormous.
Movie theaters are getting it. They're making seats bigger and more comfy so you enjoy to going to the movies again (even if you don't really like the quality of the films, thenselves).
@@ohsweetmystery That’s not true. Seats and planes have gotten smaller over the years. You can tell by old photos and how much they could put on the tray tables when they fed them. It was 3 courses and a drink usually. Airlines have been contemplating standing “seats” for the last few years so they could cram more in.
@@ohsweetmystery Seats on airlines have shrunk from an average of 20 inches wide in 1985 to 17 inches today, and the pitch (read: legroom spacing) has decreased from an average of 32 inches in 1985 to as low as 27 inches on some flights today. They are indeed getting smaller. They have also gone from a 30 inch wide isle in 1985 to a 20 inch wide one today. To put that into perspective, a 24 inch wide doorway is the narrowest that is considered “reasonable” for a human to pass through. Do your homework before just insisting it’s because people are fatter (though I will grant you that is also true.)
@@HelloNotMe9999 Seats get smaller while humans get larger. Doesn’t seem like an ideal strategy…
The cabin crew can make ALL the difference. I was in a similar situation flying from Frankfurt to Atlanta. Realizing that this is going to suck for several hours, I walked back to one of the aft doors and was just watching Europe go by. One of the flight attendants adopted me and put me in one of the crew rest seats. One employee earned Delta some serious loyalty that day.
Flight attendants tend to be nice to customers who quietly and tactfully try to make the best of their situation as you did, rather than those who turn the whole flight into a cringey performance, as she did.
@@aahyes9068 Uhm. Hasn't whole thing started AFTER flight with complaint filed?
@@aahyes9068 Exactly what are you talking about. she didn't make a fuss on the flight she flight she wrote about it to her friend's.
Cabin crew treatment is horrible in the states.
@@aahyes9068 She didn't do anything to make a "performance". All of this happened off the plane.
This fills me with rage. Imagine being forced to be touched against your will like this. It's a violation of personal boundaries. And not that someone should need to actually state they are uncomfortable with that, for it to continue after asking is just unacceptable on every level.
As I'm sure someone else has already commented, the reason they didn't want to switch seats is because *they knew it would be uncomfortable to sit next to each other. So rather than enduring that as a family discomfort, they both would rather subject a stranger to that discomfort, even knowing the discomfort was being doubled up on that stranger*
You ever see those images of Lion Seals sun tanning on a beach? Now picture it on a plane.
Honestly I think they knew what they were doing and were trying to get that extra seat for free because they knew nobody would want to be smashed between them so they would try to ask for another seat
They should have bought all three seats in the row for the two of them
Flying is not about comfort. It is about paying through the nose to the airline to make them rich. That's all. Suck it up and deal with being uncomfortable for a few hours. god everyone is so fucking soft they can't take anything anymore. No one has any ability to withstand the slightest thing.
The people who wrote these articles looking down on Sydney for this discomfort would absolutely not volunteer or like to be in the same situation.
This
@levichicwown9760 lol. im just sad his movies went from mummies to whales.
If they force you to pay nearly $75 for overweight luggage if you don't fit in a seat, without sweating on others, you must buy two.
Usually people don't Sweat While Flying (SWF).
Two seats and $50 extra to extract and steam clean them
@@IMHobby121 fat people always sweat just being alive
Okay so… no. I 1000% agree with you. I’ve been in this exact situation, and it sucks. It’s not fat shaming. It’s a matter of a person touching me when I don’t want to be touched. I’ve paid for a seat on an airplane, not half a seat. If I can’t comfortably move, I am not getting what I paid for. Large people need to buy 2 seats. We don’t need to accommodate their size. Preach, girl.
Guess what, the fat person is uncomfortable too. Sometimes in life we have to deal with discomfort, grow up
@@LS-ys8nr Nope. This is way beyond discomfort, it's utterly unsafe. Another customer doesn't have the right to take over half of the seat that I paid for, exacerbating my neck and hip injuries and pinning my arms down. Especially in the US when domestic flights are easily $400+. If they couldn't rearrange our seating to fix it on a full flight, then one of the obese customers should be made to deboard before takeoff.
From USA, I really enjoyed your tweets. They were hilarious and absolutely truthful.. My son in an Airline pilot for Delta. He said the airline you were on should have moved you even if it was up to 1st class. He said to continue to call this out until your compensated, because you will be.
Omg. Delta treated me amazingly (I commented this on another thread but whatever - I can repeat so you can show your son).
I was flying solo parent in 2018 with three kids (my husband had a work conflict and couldn’t join us). 4 hour flight and my kids had never flown. It was a wildcard experience. So what did I do? I PREPARED! Lol. Anyway. My kids were 3, 8, 11. I absolutely had to sit with them. So I planned. A) chose an airline that had reserved seating. B) called ahead to arrange seating together - got placed in back row of a 2+2 configured plane - I hate back row but whatever. It was the only unreserved set of 4 seats available AND the kids would be able to get to bathrooms immediately. (Smart on Delta there.) C) I had to tow the car seat along (full size, not infant size). I couldn’t counter check it (their policy) so I had to gate check it. Fine. Whatever.
I also took the initiative to tell pretty much every staff member (gate team and flight attendants) that this was my kids first flight and I’m flying solo with them and I’d love any accommodation I could get. Basically: can y’all just proactively check on me please? I don’t know if they’re gonna be monsters or crying or vomiting (car sickness is strong in my bloodline 😜). I didn’t want to be a disturbance but I’m really out of my element and had no other travel option I could afford to get me there.
Delta staff was so great. I brought little baggies of Hershey kisses to give to everyone. (Gate and flight staff and passengers seated near us.) The flight staff was so kind and attentive. We ended up needing nothing. My kids tolerated it all like champs and their manners were on point. Really awesome. The flight staff gave them little care packs (couple extra snacks and little kids flight wings and a hand wipe and such). In the packs the staff had written little thank you notes for the chocolates and told the kids how good they were on the flight and how they hoped to see them flying lots in the future. Generic stuff but it was sooooo sweet. I still have them somewhere I hope.
Bonus prize (for your son): we brought candy for the pilots, too, but obviously couldn’t give them pre-flight so flight attendants held them. We were deplaning and the pilots flagged my kids down, thanked them for the chocolate, and then invited them into cockpit. They were THRILLED! (Also thanks to the cleaning staff on that flight - we were last off and took a few minutes to finally clear off - sorry to be any bother.)
The return flight was pretty much the same except I told everyone it was second flight. 🤷♀️ No cockpit time in that run (they were doing a quick turnaround). The staff was still amazing and attentive. We did have a little vomiting on that flight (still back row on a 2+2 configuration). The attendant offered a comp drink but I declined (though I think that was a missed opportunity now Haha).
Anyhoo- go go Delta. Excellent at accommodating us. But then again we also pre-planned. 🤷♀️ Maybe more of us should. 😏
@@nunyabusiness2945 So glad you had a great experience. I'm visiting him now and will pass this along!!🥰
When you asked the guy if he would be willing to swap seats, don't be mistaken, he said "no" because HE didn't want to be sardined. He wanted space and he didn't care that he was causing distress. HIS comfort was his priority. His sister was secondary. YOU were a very distant third in his regard.
Make no mistake, it's one of the things obese people do when they travel together. They hope that it isn't a full flight, the middle seat won't be booked, or if someone is there, they can be moved to another seat. Then the 2 obese people in the aisle and window seat get a whole seat's worth of free space.
100%. They bought the seats like this for this reason. Maybe they were hoping no one would get the middle one, but they knew what they were doing
@@harperfamilyharper3146 she had no way of knowing that two morbidly obese people would be occupying those seats. What they did was just inconsiderate. If they are going to be selfish then no one owes them respect. You get respect from how you behave to others
Exactly what I thought.
@@owenb8636 if selfish is putting your own priorities before a stranger’s priorities then hell selfishness should be encouraged.
It’s always funny how airlines weigh our bags but not the people….
Overweight fee I meant the person not your bag
This is actually something that we do in the military. your bags are weighed as well as your carry on bag in your hand. They have to make sure the weight isn’t too much for the flight. I wish more commercial airlines would do this.
This is actually an OSHA standard for the workers moving your luggage, not the airline itself. Over 50lbs means two people are required to safely lift and load by OSHA standards
How's it funny? What would be the point of weighing people? Everyone gets the same baggage allowance and that's fair. Why would you want to discriminate against people for their weight or size?
Because weight and size matters when flying on a plane
You handled the situation with more grace than most would have. No way I could have handled that.
The most appalling part is, these people do not get seats next to each other as they know how uncomfortable it is and they must know it is more comfortable for them to have a thin person between them. But they could buy 1 and a half seats each and not effect anyone else...what a bizarre world we live in...
This is the answer right here
The world is full of narcs and it's only getting worse.
It might not even be geometrically possible for them to have adjacent seats.
@@abyssmom2692 Of course it is when the morons in charge let such a-holes get away with such behavior but shame someone like Sydney!!
Exactly, the whole situation got worse when we found out they know each other and did that on purpose.
I always hated the suffix "phobic". Being repulsed is not the same as being afraid. You do not impose fear on me because you can't sit in place without running out of breath.
i don’t think it’s even being repulsed by half of the time, though the other half of the time it is…. but that first half of the time, it is total frustration with the entitlement, lack of self awareness, and apathy shown by these people. and i say this as an obese person myself who would be MORTIFIED if my fat spilled over and was touching people next to me…
Phobic doesn't just mean fear of. Look it up and check the definition. You might be surprised.
@@bryanbrett8943 "A phobia is an anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobia
Am I looking in wrong places?
I'm not afraid of fat people, I'm just not attracted. or inspired to pay their hospital bills.
Yes! Consider a garbage dumpster that a restaurant uses (think expired food sitting in the sun for days). I'm repulsed by the smell (I used to work at a restaurant) but I'm not phobic about it.
Exactly-Phobia is an irrational fear. Being disgusted by something you find offensive is totally not the same
Pre-COVID i was roughly 350lbs (25 stone). Spent 3 weeks in the US in 2019 and took several flights. It only really dawned on me at that time how much of a massive inconvenience i was to others when flying, i felt terrible. A lifelong friend i flew with jokingly flagged to me i'd essentially spent a 12-hour flight pressed up against him. That stuck with me.
Decided to make a concerted effort to fix my weight issues, and during COVID years i lost 168lbs. Had a huge smile on my face when flying with the same friend this summer. Until a grossly overweight passenger sat down next to me and was almost sitting on my lap. Ha.
Karma! :D
Good job fixing your weight. Your wallet will thank you too (on medical bills) :)
That bitter sweet ending, I hope that made your pride sing, congrats on making the changes you wanted/needed, always harder to do then say.
Awesome. Congratulations!
Excellent effort, that's awesome. I would highly recommend regular visits with a cardiologist if you haven't already. Rapid weight loss can cause cardiac events and I lost a coworker to an aneurysm in a similar situation. Not trying to scare you, but if you've got the character to push yourself that well, I want to keep you around. Nice effort, and good luck.
168lbs?? That's so impressive 👏👏 Good job!
I fly quite often for my profession (Ship's Engineering Officer) and I remember a recent flight that happened not to long ago. It was a flight that was between Houston, TX and Flint, MI. The flight was completely booked up and I found myself with the extremely bad luck of being stuck in the (sometimes dreaded, lol) middle seat. Now I'm not a tiny guy, but I'm also not a obese guy either. I just have broad shoulders. But anyways I digress, I found myself stuck between to HUGE DUDES, I mean they made me feel tiny. I had to endure that flight for about 3 hours with my shoulders and back contorted sideways. When I finally did get home, I didn't feel anything but tiredness from the flight. But OH MY LORD, did I feel it the next morning. I couldn't move my neck or head at all without feeling an extreme amount of debilitating pain. It took me 2 months before I felt normal again and even now 2 years later, I still have nerve issues. I mean I normally try to upgrade up to business class and when I can't do that I at least try for an isle seat. But that time I couldn't. This was American Airlines, by the way. People laugh about this, I DO NOT find this funny because this caused me an extreme amount of pain and I lost out on a serious amount of income because I was not able to work. Thanks American Airline. And thanks Sydney for telling us about that rule, I will be using that in the future.
As a person who ballooned up to 330 lbs and only 5'9 I hear you. I suffered 2 strokes, 6 heart attacks and developed type 2 diabetes at the age of 45. I pulled my head out and started working on my diet and exercising daily and now I am down to 190 lbs. It's not fat shaming, it is interest or wanting to help your fellow man and prevent an un timely death. Thank you Sydney for shedding light on the silent killer.
Congratulations on the weight loss. I've got about 30 pounds left to go. It can be hard because food is so tempting sometimes. But I go on my trampoline, everyday (almost) and cut out sugar and other carbs.
I'm so happy for you!!! I'm still on my weight loss journey and have lost weight as well and feel so much better!!! Even happier!!!
Good work! Now you get to look forward to not only a longer life, but the quality of that life will be much higher as well!! (I have also struggled with weight, noticed that even simple things like tying your own shoes, can be a challenge!).
Fantastic job!!!! My friend is also 300lbs and 5’9’’. She refuses to lose wt but complains. I have stopped talking to her I can’t handle it anymore 🤦♀️
Congrats on your hard work!
I'm claustrophobic and this story is making my anxiety go crazy, I couldn't have delt with this
Same
For real. It’s hard enough to even be on a plane where you can’t get out of that tube when you’re claustrophobic. Penned in like that I’d probably have a panic attack. How would they handle that on a plane!?
I am agoraphobic (this is not a fear of "open spaces") It would have the same effect on me.
I had agoraphobia as a teen for about a year and a half.
The key is exposure therapy. That and benzos either as needed during a panic attack or daily and eventually wean off benzos when you have better coping and reduced anxiety due to frequent experience in public.if your doctor or psychiatrist is a coward who won't give benzos, buy phenibut as a supplement online. Phenibut acts on the same receptors as alcohol. GABA b receptor. But not the alcohol high or liver damage. Benzos act on GABA a receptor .
The whole conversation made me very claustrophobic and uncomfortable. My mom is much worse! She would have been in tears having a panic attack
Being oversized due to underlining health issues & my wife is now busy with losing weight after pregnancy diabetes, we actually agree with you. I am going to the gym on a bi-daily bases, and its hard work for me to keep around the weight I currently am. But if someone tells me I am fat, I agree, and we shouldnt tip-toe around it. It has become a pandamic, and normalizing it only expands the problem.
Blessings on your health journey 💜
@@bronminett4042 Indeed, best of luck to them both on that journey
I find this statement FAR more impressive and “brave” than someone being ok with being overweight! Sir, I admire your strength to take responsibility and be honest. You are a breath of fresh air! None of us are perfect in this world, but we can at least be honest about our own situations in life.
(And congratulations on the new baby!!!!!!!!!!!)
Good job. Keep working at it. It’s a tough road but it’s worth it.
@@mmmmmmmmmmm10 both is good. Gym increases calorie usage, eating less reduces calorie amount. Saying that gym does nothing is a total lie
As a morbidly obese person, I would have been mortified if I did that to you. 😳 That’s why I always buy 2 seats or buy a 1st class seat.
You're not morbidly obese. 😂
You are kind and reasonable. Most people are not.
Same here. Actually, I probably will just not fly anymore, but in the past I bought 1st class to fit me.
You should be mortified being fat in the first place….
You are not the bad guy in this. Please never stop speaking up for all of us.
Yep, "fat-shaming" is not a thing. People are fat and they shouldn't be, their fault.
Yes we must support her if we don't "speak up" ourselves... I know it's not pretty to...
@Just Ask Questionslmfao😂
Coming from a person who struggles with weight. Your NOT fat shaming! In fact THEY are "fat blaming" and refuse to take responsibility for their own life and poor choices on their health. After losing weight, I find myself happier as well as healthier is a plus!
I think you are probably good looking, too,, despite the weight. It is such a common thing, to say an overweight person has such a pretty face. I think it has something to do with the bone structure that enables you to carry extra weight, just my theory. Maybe you gained the weight to ward off unwanted attention?
Absolutely... as an overweight person I totally agree!
Those siblings damn well did think about that, you can tell by the fact they sat a seat apart. They didn't want to be squished together, and instead wanted someone squished between them.
Amen sister
Didn't want to, or knew it wasn't even possible.
Smart Fatties: Let's book an empty seat between us.
Dumb Sydney: I'm in the Land of the Horrifically Obese, I'm sure that taking a Middle Seat won't be Problematic.
They were probably just preoccupied thinking about their next meal.
Brother and Sister probably spend a lot of time squished together already...and secretly LIKE IT.
Makes family reunions a little akward.
Maybe we need to look at weight limits and sizes of people the same way luggage is scrutinized at the airport. If your a certain size, you need 2 seats.
I have no idea how you didn’t freak out in that situation. The anxiety and claustrophobia of it all would have me loosing my mind. It’s insane how normal, healthy bodied people have to shove aside their own personal boundaries and comfort to accommodate people who don’t care about accommodating those around them. This country is a clown world.
Having flown in the 60s and 70s, I wonder how many folks nowadays realize how much of a miserable experience flying is today and how much different it used to be. I agree, it's not just air travel. The whole society has turned into 'clown world'. I'm torn between being sad to see our whole society decline into a slow motion disaster and taking comfort in the fact I spent so much of my life in a different world that wasn't so 'third world' and being old enough now that I kind of DGAS.
So much for 'social distancing', right? The Left has the right to DEMAND their own space, and yet we have to get our faces sat-on by people who can't stop stuffing Twinkies in their mouths.
I’m curious- if you were as large as they were, what would the airline have done when all 3 of you couldn’t fit at the same time?
And the brother and sister…clearly chose seats away from each other because they know they can’t fit side by side. They were well aware they would be making someone else uncomfortable, and didn’t care.
I think so too.
Yeah, the airline wouldn't leave her there if SHE were obese too. They figured they could get away with it because she's slender.
At an absolute minimum, they could have taken seats in different rows. That would have cost them nothing, and while it wouldn't make them fit properly it wouldn't be *as* bad. Doubling up the encroachment shows that they really have no empathy for others, they either did not think about it, or they thought about it and didn't care.
I'm guessing they latter. I'd lay odds that they've done this before, and of course with that seating situation, if the flight was not completely full the middle seat person would move and they'd get an extra seat for free, which is probably what they expected.
I bet they thought if they took a window seat and an aisle seat no one would buy a middle seat with 2 people on either side, and tbh I don't think that's a crazy thing to try, but the fact that he didn't switch is rude.
@@paritybit7830 I’ve had this happen. I’m not the most slender of blokes but had the window seat, the guy next to me was bigger than me and I was already happy I had the window seat. Then the fellow with the aisle seat sat down with a struggle and to say they were overflowing was light. The fellow in the middle got some attention of the flight attendant and got the fellow in the aisle seat moved which I was grateful for not because I was going to be squished but because the smell was horrific and I wanted to eat on the flight. That said I did wonder if they moved them to the exit row which given he struggled to get into the aisle seat to begin with, I’m not sure how he’s getting through these increasingly tightly packed seats to the exit. In this case, I’m sure they’re hoping nobody gets the middle but if it’s a full flight then they just made someone’s day worse and they knew what they were doing in the situation.
The brother and sister were well aware of their size and booked seats apart for a reason. The airlines should ask for your weight while booking and force you to buy two seats.
Most do force fat ppl. to buy 2 seats. Then they double sell the 2nd seat.
That used to be a thing. They didn't actually ask your weight but if you were too big to fit in your seat without encroaching on the seat next to you, you had to pay for 2 seats.
I say anyone over 300 lbs should be banned from air travel until such time as they get to a healthy weight. Perhaps that will motivate some of the diabeet-asses out their to get healthy.
Lol that would be considered fatphobic.
@@therealsapdad1942 or buy 2 seats which airlines have proven this won’t work
Nothing more ENRAGES me when I pay extra for Business Class or Premium Economy Aisle AND someone invariably ASKS me to swap seats so they can sit with their significant others, the”BALLS”!
Yeahhhhh bullshit. Let's be real, you likely had this happen once (if that). And if you're unable to say no to a simple request without getting ENRAGED, then maybe you ought to be doing everyone a favor and staying home until you work out your anger management problems.
I travel pretty frequently and have never been asked to swap my business or economy+ seat, nor have I ever seen anyone sitting near me be asked. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill...
@@BrianChing-s9m
I, too, travel weekly, sometimes 2X/3X a week, status with Delta and American. It happens more than you think. Sadly, it’s not an easy as you think as other in the cabin look at you like an “oger”. It’s not anger management, you’re probably one of the people that does this and feels “entitled”.
I would have just straight up said no
@@BrianChing-s9m
You’re mistaken. As a weekly+ flier, it’s happens at least 3 - 4 times a month minimum. Now, I politely ask OUT LOUD if the person sitting next to their significant other would like to trade seats…. It makes an uncomfortable trip. Again, the “entitlement” and “ BALLS” to ask!
That’s a scam, always say no
Imagine having to go through this awful situation, and then the blame being put on you. It’s absolutely ridiculous.
They say that what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right; that black is white and white is black; bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter.
Our passengers come in all shapes and sizes but our seats sure as hell don't.
@@Raya-ir4tm Airlines are partly to blame here. Both the size of the seats and the space around them have been progressively getting smaller over the decades. They want to pack their customers like sardines to maximize profit.
Many airlines don't even allow you to book two seats for one checked-in passenger. Some airlines also over book their flights and your extra seat can be taken away automatically.
If she paid for her seat, they should’ve refunded her, as she was lied to about what she was purchasing.
they should make special seats for the obese. Problem solved.
My claustrophobia would have kicked off and I would have had a panic attack. You did better then I would have
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
same.
Yes same!
same
We would want a video if that happened.
Hence why NO ONE wants the middle seats
That brother and sister did that to you on purpose. That's why they got seats that had a seat in between them. The decided to squash whatever poor soul got that seat rather than just buy the extra seat between them.
That's probably true. They counted on airline staff reseating whatever poor soul got the seat between them, giving them that seat by default. It doesn't work when the flight is full, of course.
I’ve heard that travel agents encourage folks to book the aisle and window seats in a row in the hope that nobody else would choose or book the middle seat, thus giving them more space to spread out.
Sounds like it. And why didn’t they sit together when she asked? Because they both knew they wouldn’t fit side by side. I can’t imagine being stuck between 2 large people and they are sweating on me too 🤮🤮 I don’t want to feel any strangers sweat no matter what size they are!!!!!
@@raimeyewens7518 especially now. Pandemic. You get most of the infections via skin. You get it on the hands, you touch your face. Not that much through the air. So imo right now it's even worse, compared to a few years ago. Now imo it's about safeness, too. Not "just" enjoying the flight. They should be far more concerned about things like that...
I know 2 brothers that do just that on purpose.
As someone who is obese, I agree with you 100%! If the seat is 18 inches wide and you are wider than 18 inches, you need to buy another seat. I don't need 36 inches, but I do need 20. What irritates me is when I buy two seats and they try to sell my second seat!
Stay strong, brother. Losing weight can be a living hell. Can't imagine how rough it is, as literally everything is designed for average people LOL
wait so they try selling your already-bought-seat to other passengers??? what kind of bs is that???
Try silmers world that's what I did I put off for years I've now lost almost 20% of my body weight
@@zombiejesus8302 why not, it is a business and has to be more profitable! You don't count!
@@zombiejesus8302 they sold a seat I bought for my 2 year old and I had to have him sit on my lap the whole flight. I’ve heard of people that kick up a fuss about this exact thing and they kick them off.
As an obese person trying to lose weight (25 lbs down!), I completely agree with you. I am so conscious if I have to fly and do everything I can to squeeze myself into my own seat and hug my arms as close as possible in order to not inconvenience others. I haven't had to fly for quite a few years and hopefully by the next time I need to fly I'll be much smaller.
From what it looks like from these pictures, I'm much smaller than these two individuals. And, I'm still so conscious if I have to fly of inconveniencing others. The HAES/Body Positivity movement is awful. Everyone should be fatphobia to the degree that we do everything we can to lose weight if obese/overweight or not gain weight if you are a good weight.
Congrats on getting 25 down. Hope you reach you goal.
Nice work! You got this!
Nice work! Keep up the hard work!
Good on you and this shows the difference in attitude and self awareness between you and this brother and sister - I also want to encourage you with your weight loss efforts - it may be difficult or feel impossible but don't give up! It is for YOUR health more than anything else! I highly recommend a book titled Body For Life - while I grew up skinny and never had any issues with being fat - I did gain about 40+ lbs. in my mid-thirties - it finally got to me when I was looking at gaining 5 inches in my waist - inch by inch over a few short years - this book made sense and even though I didn't follow it as strictly as the author proscribed, it worked - and I got in even better shape than I was previously. The premise and basic talking points are: 1. This is not a "diet" - this is a lifestyle change in (a) what foods you can and cannot eat, exercise alone won't cause you to lose weight, it can help to some degree but it really is a change to your diet that will cause you to lose weight. 2. Exercise will help with your body shape - resistance training will help gain muscle and tone, and cardio will help with your overall energy. 3. Once a week you get a "free" day - any diet that tells you that you can never eat a hot fudge sundae or a double bacon cheeseburger is doomed to lead you to failure because - sooner or later you're gonna fall, and then you'll be discouraged and give up. But going from eating 2 bowls of Lucky Charms and 2 slices of heavily buttered toast 7 days a week to 1 day and week made a huge difference for me! 4. In the event you slip up on a day that isn't your free day - pick yourself up and get back on the program - never give up! 5. You won't notice it at first - and I only weighed myself once a week - but people around you will notice and compliment you and this will be encouraging and inspirational - and it will cause you to be encouraging to others for anything positive you notice about them. Congrats to being 25 lbs down! Cheering you on!
Great work!
This happened to me once (I was active military at the time and flying in uniform). The stewardess who saw my situation was horrified. She wound up taking me up to an empty seat in first class because it was the only other seat available, and she couldn't stop apologizing about the situation.
One of the very few times I ever received any professional courtesy from airline staff.
Im a muscular guy with wide shoulders, when im on the alley seat my shoulders get hit by the trolleys.
One time i was sitting next to an obese person and i physically couldnt handle it. My back started hurting due to being contoured by this obese guy.
I told the flight attendant about it and i managed to swap my seat.
Interesting that two siblings who booked their tickets together ended up with an aisle seat and a window seat. I wonder if they specifically requested that, which would make the entire thing even more messed up.
You pick the seat with American Airlines, so yes, that pair was selfish.
The takeaway from obesity reality tv was that gigantic people are selfish, manipulative and very entitled.
They were playing the lottery hoping to get that middle seat for free.
I am normal BMI, but I’m a man and I’m in the military so whenever I have a window or aisle, I make it very clear to the person stuck in the middle seat that they get to have both armrests and let me know if they need anything from me. I say it clearly so that the other stranger (on their other side) hears me and feels obligated to do likewise.
I wish I could fly, period. Meeting folks like you would make my antisocial day. :)) I'm super people shy, sadly.
That's so sweet.
That subtle pressure you put on the opposite side goes a long way. Middle seat passagenrs everywhere thank you
I had to fly a 100% full Japanese airline when I was overweight (but not to the point of needing extender seatbelts) due to a medical condition & those seats are abnormally smaller than American planes, plus the space between the seats is as well, so I couldn’t get my feet on the ground because my legs were too long for the space, then the guy in the aisle kept slamming the armrest down on my hipbone until I was crying. I asked a flight attendant if I could change seats or if there was anything They could do to help, the mean guy wouldn’t switch & give me the aisle so I could at least sit sort in it with my knees hanging over & didn’t care that he was inflicting pain on me no matter how many times I asked him to stop because he was hurting me. Even though he was being horribly cruel & tbh abusive I was still apologetic & kind to him. After the guy in front of me kept trying to jam his seat back on my knees that couldn’t go down even though I also explained that & kindly asked him to stop, the guy is the window crammed himself as close to the window as possible & moved his feet over & offered me to try to move my feet over & to get as close as possible him so I could stop getting abused by armrest guy. He then apologized for everyone else’s behavior & tried to make me laugh & keep me distracted the rest of the flight. So I really gotta say...People like you are saints.
I once was in the same situation. The man next to me apologized and said he tried to purchase 2 seats but there was not another seat available. He kindly gave me coffee shop gift card and tried very hard not to get too much into my space. We actually had a pleasant conversation for most of the flight, taking my mind off the uncomfortable seat issue. Thankfully it was only an hour and a half flight. Ultimately, I think the airlines need to have larger seats, and charge more for them. Ben, my seatmate was very kind and I appreciated his gesture.
I love that MSM picked up your story. According to responses on Twitter, the people are on your side.
Since they’re siblings, they picked those seats intentionally knowing how obese they are and knowing they would fill up the seat between themselves.
And that is all well and good, but they took a chance and it didn't work. I would do that and then if that middle seat hot sold I would move over. "Dang someone bought the seat. I'll take the middle.:
Perhaps it's an incestous fetish 🤮
Interestingly, when seat belt extenders are used, they’re labeled in this manner…on one end they write FAA which stands for Federal Aviation Administration and on the other end they write TSO which stands for Technical Standard Order (which designates certification standards). Now, when you buckle the seatbelt, it spells out FAATSO.
Im not even kidding.
that's hilarious!! Someone designing them was pissed 😆
I think this is the best comment in the comment section. I hope I will never have to use a seatbelt extender.
lol, quite possibly lmao
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Hi Sydney, thanks for speaking up about this. It is a real issue.
As someone who used to be overweight, when people ask me why I lost the weight and got in shape, it's honestly situations like this that were my inspiration. If a beautiful woman like Sydney sits down next to me on a plane, I want her to think "that's a nice looking man" instead of "oh God noooo!".
Excellent point, and congratulations!
And then you'd bang on the plane in front of everyone, they'd all clap and the pilot would offer you a job, right?
Thank you! People say it doesn’t matter what others think, but honestly? It kind of does. That’s how we get jobs, friends, partners… what others think of us determines so much about our lives.
Congratulations also! 🍾 that’s awesome that you took initiative and put in the hard work
When I was younger, I used to love to go to all-you-can-eat buffets with my family, and you always noticed the fat people and watched how much they took (I once saw a HUGE black dude literally take the ENTIRE tray of crab legs - that had just been put-out - back to his table!) Now I am a very fat person, and the very first time I saw others watching me in a restaurant, I stopped going. I don't want to be 'that guy' that others whisper about ("OMG! Look at how much they are taking!") Bullying serves an important function in society - it either makes you 'get better', or hide in shame. Both are acceptable outcomes for when you have no control over your own desires.
The entire thing is something that’s needed to be said
I had a window seat on a flight. Ready to sleep and the middle and aisle sat down both obese and I was literally pushed into the the window. Fortunately the flight attendant saw my predicament and moved me and dropped me a few free cocktails 😅
I'm 6ft 4in tall and on a flight to Hawaii I had my knee slammed into by a stewardess and then got berated because I couldn't get my knee out of the isle. My other knee was in my wife's area and I tried to explain this to her but she didn't want to hear it. The person in front of me wouldn't even consider sitting up. I should of sued because I actually have a torn meniscus from her slamming my knee. The thing is she didn't even care either way about my knee or the fact I didn't fit in my seat.
They intentionally chose their seats so that they would not be sitting next to each other. It was literally their plan to try and give themselves more room by crushing the person in the middle seat.
This is why I always pay more for an isle seat. On an 12 hour flight back home, a mother asked me if I was travelling alone and if I could swap seats so she, her husband and daughter can sit together. I asked if the other seat she booked was an Isle seat and she said no. So I immediately said no. She wasn't happy about and when I left the plane, I saw why. The daughter was overweight and sat in the middle of two other obest people. She had been crying all flight because she was squashed. I did feel for her yet I thought, that could have been me and I had paid more for my seat then she did.
My grandmother said I was selfish and I said no, they are. I paid extra for my seat because I wanted that seat and I am not overweight! They're the selfish ones for expecting other people to splash out for their required room!
I am so sorry you had to go through that!
Don't feel bad at all. I typically fly business class, but especially on short notice I often fly coach. No biggie, but being the germophobe, i often buy the middle seat too. I'm a skinnier guy, and I just like the extra space. Often someone asks me to swap seats or someone will sit in the vacated spot. I always politely explain that I purchased that seat, and grown adults have such a problem with that it's mind boggling. I'm very aware that some people can't afford to do the same, trust me, I get it. It's weird and I'm weird, but it's my money and my seat, and I shouldn't have to explain my reasoning to anyone. I used to get guilted into it, but the more I tell people about it, the more I see others doing the same. Point is, sit in the seat you bought, and don't get mad when someone doesn't want to share with strangers.
It’s a luxury, and I think people don’t realize that.
Like if someone bought a new car and another person bought a dingy car that was broken. The person who bought the new car is not then obligated to give their car to the person who bought the dingy broken car. It’s a luxury. Take the bus if you cannot afford a functioning car 🤦
It’s not up to the flight attendants to sort you out if you make people uncomfortable you should then get kicked out by all rights. Flying is a luxury and there are other means of transportation. If you don’t fit in your seat and only your seat, buy another seat.
I am not looking forward to moving out of my city for this reason because I am anticipating having to fly in 😂
If the parents weren't happy about their own daughter being squished between 2 obese people, they were more than welcome to trade their own seats with her. How surprising that was never an option /s
A lot of us had to learn to not be people pleasers, have boundaries, and being cool with people being unhappy with us. My upbringing made all of those things, stuff that I had to learn as an adult, and gosh, oh how important is it to learn it!
There’s a saying that goes, “Givers need to learn how to stop giving, because takers never stop taking.” So don’t let anyone say you’re selfish for looking out for yourself. It’s actually just not being a doormat.
Isle seats are not charged at a premium. Exit rows are and advanced seat selection is but not specifically an isle seat.
I had a nightmare trip similar to yours a while ago. Nine hours of being sweated on. Nine hours of forced intimacy. Even having the other passanger drooling on me while they kept nodding off on my left shoulder. AAAAAGH!!!
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Get your money back
I had a similar situation… I was equally frustrated and beside myself. This happened 25 years ago and I still remember the body odor and the absolute violated feeling… I’m 5’2” and small in general and it was excruciating.
When they ordered their tickets they made sure to get seats apart for they know how uncomfortable they would be demoting next to each other
This!
OR maybe Syd payed for the middle seat first? Also, what does demoting in this context mean?
@@spaghetto9836 was suppose to be sitting. I guess I didn’t proofread that very well . That’s on me
@@richardreese8038 Np.
I'm fairly obese myself. If I noticed I was practically crushing you like that, I would have felt incredibly guilty and tried to do something about it immediately. What the hell la-la land were those two in?
I'm a "fatty-fat-fat" and I definitely feel for you! I do what I can to change myself, because of course, but I do NOT consider you to be fat shaming - not by a LONG shot.
Sorry you had to deal with that. I'm also even more sympathetic to your worse experience dealing with our sick society that would treat you as if YOU are the problem. You are not the problem; you're a champ. Love your work. Keep it up!
If you go out of your way to shit on people then that is shaming. If people are literally forced onto you… is def something different
We need to fat shame; look what has become of society
@@pyropulseIXXI I don't think we need to fat shame. I'm fat because of severe depression, suicidality and stress so yeah someone reminding me of something I'm very well aware of is not going to help me in any positive way. I'm trying to tackle my issues one at a time and unfortunately losing weight is not my priority at the moment. But I do agree with her that she shouldn't have been in this situation and if you're wedged between two fat people on a plane they should be buying two tickets. Personally, I don't plan on travelling by airplane until I lose weight.
@@pyropulseIXXI I understand where you're coming from, but that can cause the opposite effect: people slipping further into depression, feeling that they're rejected by society and overeating even more as a result. You're not gonna get a better person by telling them "you're horrible". Same here. What we have to do is educate people on reasons *why* it's wrong, and advise and offer help to overcome this issue.
@@pyropulseIXXI you’re a horrible human I hope a person you care about get shammed
I had to get an MRI done and when scheduling they asked if I weighed more than 450 lbs. After I stopped laughing I said, ‘I hope not!’
If they have to ask that because you literally won’t fit in the thing if you’re that big, can’t they do the same for plane flights?
MRI's must be getting bigger, they asked me if I was over 300.
They ask that because the bed part of the MRI has a structural weight limit.
@@Qilue So do planes
Actually it's also very tight enclosure if you are going inside the machine
@@Bellthorian they might be making them bigger. I remember hearing stories from the local zoo that would help local hospitals by letting them use their large medical facility for some patients.
"If passengers come in all shapes and sizes, then so should the seats."
Me: so is their prices.
Exactly this! On planes space = $$$
If you want more space, be prepared to pay more. It's super selfish and entitled to expect that the airline (a private business) should accommodate your size for free. Just no! Because it's not free and everybody else will just end up having to pay more.
Maybe a new Airline policy would be paying by weight or pay by your with.
The common theme of the video was if you're too wide for the seat pay for a second seat.
@@EDV8ZR1 like extra luggage
@@divorceguru sorry miss you are too tall by 1 whole inch, that will come with a surcharge of 850 extra USD per flight on our airline.
@@francopanigaia2425 Weight is controllable, height is not.
I don’t care if you’re obese or as a thin as a rod - I don’t like anyone invading my personal space it freaks me out. So I feel your pain. And for sure one those siblings should have switched with you.
They didn’t even have to buy two seats, they could have bought the middle seat together since they were brother and sister… they could have split the cost of the middle seat. Happy travelling for everyone
They didn't have any money left they spent it all on food
Or they hoped that the person in the middle would feel to much uncomfortable that would ask to be moved elsewhere, giving them a free middle seat
@@WanRa28so much this
Manatees should not be flying.... transport them how the Zoo does it. A truck in a little wading pool and hose them down every now and again so they don't overheat😐 they totally knew what they were doing....even they didn't want to sit next to each other ffs
@@WanRa28 It would have been hilarious if the person who bought the middle seat was a fatso, too. Would serve the other two passengers right.
This really touched home for me because I am overweight and always very conscious to do everything I can to be as small as possible in my seat to avoid infringing on someone's space. I don't go into the other seat but it's still a tight fit. I absolutely understand where you are coming from and I think the airline should be ashamed of their response, as should others raging at you for complaining. I don't think you are a fat-shamer or the bad guy for voicing your distress over the situation. You are right that we all deserve the space we are paying for and if someone is so obese that they infringe on the seat of another, they should buy business or two seats or not fly.
Im tiny...
and im not fat shaming, but tall people, or well built men seem to feel its their right to have their elbows into my ribcage, legs spread so i cant move mine sideways to shift butt position...
or any other method of squishing me into 1/3 of my seat....!
On one flight, i had to climb over the headrests to get out to go to the bathroom...
that was a mission, cause the 7 foot tall, 6 feet wide in the shoulders was sound asleep and unable to be woken!....
It happens regularly...
because im little its almost an expectation i wont mind!...
I also get long legs poked into my back if someone tall is sat behind me...
My son is tall, very tall, so i understand the problems, and usually dont get too wound up....hazzards of flying....
Under certain circumstances i will quietly assert my rights to my seat but i try to do it very low key
Makes life interesting lol....
Former 400 lb woman here. I am now less than half of my former self! I totally get it Sydney. Having been that obese person, I always opted for business class so I could fit there without bothering others. If for some reason, I HAD to fly regular, I got the aisle seat, brought a seatbelt extender with me, and hung my hip/leg on the aisle outside so that my side next to someone didn't squish them. Yes, I had issues with the little cart and people walking by but I never assumed it was their problem. It was MY problem. So I 99% of the time paid for the larger seat.
Most of these fat queens are younger women who haven't stopped to think about their inconvenience to others. Nor do they think about what will happen when they get older. I hate to think what I would be like if today at 67 I were still 400 pounds.
Please keep speaking out. Fat-shaming is a myth.
Fat shaming is not a myth. But its grossly overdone today. You are damn right.
Amen!
3:03 This has nothing to do with politics at all. I am centre-left wing and it would make me extremely uncomfortable to have to sit next to 2 obese people
Some rides at theme/amusement parks have a sample seat at the front, and if you can’t get on/in that seat, you can’t ride.
We need to have this at airports.
Yeah, instead of airplanes, we should have giant slingshots that wouls shoot fat people to their destination
@@marcelocastro6992 there's no rubber band strong enough. You need a trebuchet.
They already do for luggage, so why not?
When I go shopping I catch myself staring in disbelief at the percentage of morbidly obese people. The majority of them are Young adults and children.
@@Hanzyscure that’s because they don’t usually survive to be an older age, or don’t leave the house
I am a very large person, not obese, but very large framed at 6'7" and north of 350 lbs. I also don't fit in airplane seats and would have gone out of my way to not impose too much on the neighboring seat(s). Accepting people as they are comes with the accepted person recognizing their impact on the people around them and, in this case, doing what is possible to alleviate the situation. As you said, I usually am asked to move to help make everyone comfortable or I try to purchase the second seat to make everyone comfortable. Normal sized people don't fit well in airplane seats today. Why make it worse.The airline should have upgraded you or moved you, if space was available.
6'7" and over 350lbs is by definition clinically obese.
Your BMI is over 35.1; over 30 is obese.
You should check your body fat percentage. Over 25% is obese for a man.
True that height is a problem for standard airplane seats, but the fuel to carry you is twice the cost of an average person, so perhaps double size seats should be made available on airlines for larger passengers, at higher cost, of course.
I'm too big for my 3 year old's bike so I don't use it! I don't fit I a womans thong so I don't wear them! logic is logic
@@angrytedtalks only if he has no muscle on him. He might be overweight with a lot of muscle. Definitely possible with his height.
@@lalithrockz That is why I said to check fat %. The definition is based on BMI, therefore it can include muscle.
My point was that large folk don't fit, I don't care if it is fat or muscle if they sit in a big seat away from me.
thats your fault
I am in complete agreement with you. The amount of self entitlement is offensive.
AMEN! We are all very tired of this.
I’m 6’4” (not obese) and have a wide frame and shoulders. On the exceedingly rare occasion I end up in a tight seat, I instinctively try to “narrow” my shoulders out of respect for those near me. In a situation similar to yours, I’d literally exit the plane and wait for another flight unless getting home at that time was critically important. Practically speaking, it would simply be unbearable to me.
Oh, I've to do that with my shoulder in City busses, it's the worst
You can't fold fat
I could deal with it for a couple hours. More than that? Probably not. Definitely not on a 6+ hour flight.
i'm the same way - however i'm 5'3 and i know i'm a bit more on the chunky side, and i always always ALWAYS try and squish myself in to the point where i'm not touching another person. i also have mental issues that cause sensory issues, and so touching another person i don't know is essentially a huge no-no on my part. i know that i'm not fat enough to warrant two seats, thank our good Lord, but even then i'd rather buy two seats than inconvenience others.
Yup. 6'2'' 215 with a long upper torso (which is good since legs are relatively short for my height and slide under the seat in front of me). This is one reason it's always great to travel with a small person - they can take the middle seat.
"Our passengers come in all shapes and sizes"
So why not your seats?
Why isn’t this comment at the top? Perfect response.
The seats do
@@happytravels5487 lol thats funny.
I would have done my best to throw up on them, and claim air sickness.
@@happytravels5487 so Sydneys neighbors were put on the small seats by mistake?
If passengers come in all shapes and sizes, then so should the seats.
True.
100% YES
But they would have to charge more for these extra seats to be worth it, but if they do all the fat folks gonna cry out loud.
Negative! WTF? lol No, that's not how the world works sorry.
They need to bring back modern versions of the "Boeing Stratosphere" including the incorporated classiness.
Otherwise, I admit I'm a bit hefty myself and if I was to fly somewhere I would expect to pay for 2 seats(unless was in First Class which tends to be roomier).
Considering how critical weight is on aircraft, I'm surprised airlines don't have fat seats evenly distributed throughout the plane for safety reasons
I would have fake coughed the entire time and talked about how the doctors just could not figure it out and it was just getting worse and maybe contagious.
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Good one. I would have too.
Hahaha
I'm not stuck with you, you stuck with me strategy is op
Yeah, and with the terrible gastro I have, I hope I can make it to the aisle with making a mess. Do you want to swap yet?
You could even poke the body parts that invade your space over and over, and over. If they say something you can reply hey thats my seat. And keep poking. Until they ask to be seated somewhere else or agree to that seat swap...
I'm so sorry you have gone through this situation. I'm a flight attendant myself, and if it were on one of my flights, I would have tried to change your seat or at least invited you to stay in the galley during the cruise. I honestly think an extra seat should be mandatory for over-sized people, especially nowadays with space between seats being more and more reduced.
Btw by being over-sized, I mean, needing an extension belt and not being able to put the armrests down.
That's a good call. I used to fly a lot when I was in the military, and was pretty big (broad shoulders). I usually get up a lot, when I can, just to give people some room around me. I had one long trip (post deployment on contract air) with 2 guys my size and we couldn't even eat at the same time.
That’s what gets me here. We don’t let people on to rollercoasters at all if they don’t fit the dimensions. Can you imagine the discomfort/embarrassment of trying to get the cart past the aisle-sitting passenger? (I’m not a flight attendant so I don’t really know if it’s a thing.) Would they have complained of you hit/touched them with it? What if you accidentally injured them? (Going by, turbulence jerks y’all around, and they get a bruise or something from the cart.)
I’m not even worried about why they’re so large - doesn’t matter to me, really. Being a huge framed muscular person, eating themselves fat or having a medical condition - doesn’t matter. The result is what it is on a plane. If the person doesn’t buy the extra seat, why don’t they get bumped to the next flight that can accommodate them? They should have planned for the space needed for themselves. They’re big and fabulous. They deserve to treat themselves to that extra seat.
@@stub4958 ooo. Fair point. I didn’t even think about the broad shouldered. I would imagine even body builders may need to buy an extra seat when flying, no? (Gotta edit my other comment. Lol)
@@stub4958 as a nearly 6'4" broad shoulder guy myself her experience is my every flight now. I can't sit back without displacing other people. Armrests dig into my hips. It's ridiculous. Bring back the 90's seat configurations that extra 3" was reasonable these new configurations are inhumane.
They do have self awareness, that's why when checking in to their flight, knowing how large they are and how they 'encroach' on the seat next to them (we know they know this since they're siblings so this didn't just happen by chance), they chose seats separated when most family members would chose adjacent seats. They did this specifically so the person that will be forced to be uncomfortable will not be either of them.
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Or hoping no one would book the seat in the middle...
this exactly