As a guy with a high/11oclock release point I found throwing a slider worked better when stepping a bit shorter and letting my arm go ‘across my body’ to get the horizontal snap
You finally gave me a proper answer to a 34-year old mystery of mine. I was drafted #1 in the 1987 U14 little league in my Ohio hometown. I had speed and accuracy at that age. A few of the older kids got to me and told me I needed to develop a couple of "junk balls" before high school, so they taught me an improper curve as well as very incorrect slider. I wanted to have a slider because the top pitcher the year before had one, and he was un-hittable. (In hindsight, it was because he hit puberty in 6th grade and was therefore capable of speed no one else our age could generate - yet. A baseball needs a minimum velocity to break into the catcher's mitt, a fact that was lost on me at that age). So I was taught to grip it like a fastball but throw it "sideways" with a quick snap of the wrist at release. I wasn't allowed to throw junk balls in practice so I saved it for the game. A few bounced into the batter's box and one flew over the backstop. I was quickly pulled from the game and very publicly embarrassed as both my coach and my dad scolded me when I got back to the bench. I never regained my confidence and accuracy that season and decided to quit baseball after that summer. I often wonder how things would have turned out had I just listened to the coach and stuck with fastballs. But thanks to you, I no longer wonder how to throw a slider correctly! Too bad I am way past the age now to even attempt one.
Great Video. I would just add that it is important to get on top of the ball, get your hand at about 1 O’Clock, kind of like you are going to shake hands with the catcher for a right hander, and you’re going to end up with a pronated hand in the follow through with this pitch. If that makes sense.
At either of the bends on the horse shoe, place the middle finger there against the seam to get more of a push off. This also enables more of a downward break also. The biggest things in throwing the Slider consistently are 1. Stay behind the Baseball, 2. Release the Slider out in front. 3. Throw it Downhill
Real good explanations. As you said , not only for the slider but also in your curveball clip , get out and throw it. Get a good catcher / partner for feedback , you gotta throw it. Thanks , you teach well.
Holy Crap. Matty!!!! What's up dude? It's Mikey S from the Legendary City Series Twins. Just stumbled on your channel. I have no idea why I am looking how to throw a slider at 37 years old but this was cool. Say hey to your dad and congrats dude
Despite my mightiest efforts, extensive time, and many training videos, I simply cannot throw a slider. It is a beautiful curve every time, but I need a slider too. Help?
this might be super late, come down on the seams a bit. By this i mean, if the U shape of the seam is facing away, so upside down U with the horseshoe away from you. Dont grip around the horse shoe, grip the right side of the upward seams. Think 2 seam fast ball grip offset to the middle finger instead. As brought my arm slot up a bit, throwing a slider fulling covered the horse turns into a curve. Coming down on the seams a bit lets the ball slip around my fingers better.
I threw a slider and a knuckle curve, the grips were essentially the same, I choked the ball (held like a two seam) on my slider my pointer finger didn't touch the ball and my follow through was to my left hip (3/4 arm slot) my curve ball was held same way except with the pointer finger nail in the ball and my release was more of a "pulling a string" so follow through was the feeling of trying to reach my left knee... Plenty of difference in movement out of the same arm slot. That's just how I did it
on release you should think like this; "fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, ..... sliiiiiiiiiiiddddderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
I throw a slider and it is very nasty but I like to grip it like a four steamer but your fingers together and another very weird thing that I do is i turn my wrist in wards. Some people might think it is weird but it works for me and I am comfortable with it.
Dude can tuck his thumb because he’s 6’ 3”. I’m not sure that would work the same for me at 5’ 10”. Also, Scherzer is just a freakishly phenomenal hurler of the baseball. I’m a Rangers fan, but I’ll always watch a truly skilled pitcher throw a game. Give me a great matchup where two ace pitchers are shutting down elite lineups and everyone else is bored... I’m having a blast watching them rack up K’s, paint corners and force people to ground into doubles.
I always taught in little league to focus on your fastball and changeup so as to not put extra stress on your arm. Save the junk for high school. I added a slider in high school that had some solid 10 to 4 break but my great was closer to a 2seam fastball grip. All this said, I stopped playing freshman year because I didn't see myself being good enough to ever have a chance to be drafted. That, and I played with a guy that was drafted i believe in the 16th round out of high school and he was exceptionally talented compared to me.
John CENA like Chris Kelly said, if you are in little league you should be throwing 3 pitches. 4 seam, 2 seam and Change up. Get proficient in those, learn the proper way to throw them and work on accuracy. Make sure you have proper pitching mechanics prior to throwing any pitch. If your mechanics are garbage any pitch you learn to throw will also be garbage. In little league when you reach the majors division start working your curve and when you play juniors or legion start you slider if needed.
I don’t understand how it’s possible to bring your fingers over the front side of the ball, Just before releasing it, without taking lots of speed off of the ball.
Mine you'd turn the ball shown there 180 degrees and hook middle finger on seam at skinniest point of seams, index finger tight next to it and thumb curled in hooking horseshoe seam under ball, ring and pinkie finger tips curled to touch bottom of palm. From low 3/4 it had more late break than drop. Haven't yet taught it to my boys, I think 13 is still too young for him (will be late bloomer) to throw anything but fb and ch. and variations of each.
SALVATION is the most important thing in this life, it’s you accepting JESUS’s free gift to enter heaven when you die, you don’t have to be perfect you don’t even have to be good. You just gotta believe JESUS died for you and as it says in John 3:16 “For GOD so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that who ever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” And if you believe that and want to say a prayer like this you can “Our father in heaven I believe I’m a sinner and I repent of my sins, GOD I believe that you sent your one and only son to die for us and GOD I Believe that you rose your son from the dead three days later, and JESUS come into my heart and save me.” And if you believe that you can be saved rn
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As a guy with a high/11oclock release point I found throwing a slider worked better when stepping a bit shorter and letting my arm go ‘across my body’ to get the horizontal snap
Great video
I feel like I would launch the ball into the dugout with my thumb that far down on the seams
Haha everyone is a little different. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Same!!!
thats crazy hes basically controlling it with two fingers then
Do you throw it like a fastball with downforce flicking downwards?
Ikr
This is amazing, thanks for breaking this down!!
Pure education! With love from Manchester, England
You finally gave me a proper answer to a 34-year old mystery of mine. I was drafted #1 in the 1987 U14 little league in my Ohio hometown. I had speed and accuracy at that age. A few of the older kids got to me and told me I needed to develop a couple of "junk balls" before high school, so they taught me an improper curve as well as very incorrect slider. I wanted to have a slider because the top pitcher the year before had one, and he was un-hittable. (In hindsight, it was because he hit puberty in 6th grade and was therefore capable of speed no one else our age could generate - yet. A baseball needs a minimum velocity to break into the catcher's mitt, a fact that was lost on me at that age). So I was taught to grip it like a fastball but throw it "sideways" with a quick snap of the wrist at release. I wasn't allowed to throw junk balls in practice so I saved it for the game. A few bounced into the batter's box and one flew over the backstop. I was quickly pulled from the game and very publicly embarrassed as both my coach and my dad scolded me when I got back to the bench. I never regained my confidence and accuracy that season and decided to quit baseball after that summer. I often wonder how things would have turned out had I just listened to the coach and stuck with fastballs. But thanks to you, I no longer wonder how to throw a slider correctly! Too bad I am way past the age now to even attempt one.
Great Video. I would just add that it is important to get on top of the ball, get your hand at about 1 O’Clock, kind of like you are going to shake hands with the catcher for a right hander, and you’re going to end up with a pronated hand in the follow through with this pitch. If that makes sense.
Too bad there was no TH-cam when i was 12 so i can try to throw these
Good thing I’m 12 trying it out
@@curtisthemilkman same
I’m 11
@@curtisthemilkman same
Good thing I'm 13 trying this out
At either of the bends on the horse shoe, place the middle finger there against the seam to get more of a push off. This also enables more of a downward break also. The biggest things in throwing the Slider consistently are 1. Stay behind the Baseball, 2. Release the Slider out in front. 3. Throw it Downhill
Such a good break down! Good work
You’re gonna tell me I’ve been throwing a slider accidentally!
I’ve just kinda gripped onto the ball randomly and it moved and I was like “ok”
Same here. Way back when I thought I was throwing a curveball, thanks to TH-cam now I know I was throwing more of a slider.
to see him execute the pitch he showed would have been a good addition to this
Real good explanations. As you said , not only for the slider but also in your curveball clip , get out and throw it. Get a good catcher / partner for feedback , you gotta throw it. Thanks , you teach well.
Holy Crap. Matty!!!! What's up dude? It's Mikey S from the Legendary City Series Twins. Just stumbled on your channel. I have no idea why I am looking how to throw a slider at 37 years old but this was cool. Say hey to your dad and congrats dude
Great info. But how far back in his hand does he hold the ball? How hard is it thrown and what does his hand do on release?
Despite my mightiest efforts, extensive time, and many training videos, I simply cannot throw a slider. It is a beautiful curve every time, but I need a slider too. Help?
Could be your arm action. Are you over the top?
Antonelli Baseball, Yes. I used to pitch sidearm and my slider was gorgeous, but now I'm over and for the velo and it's all curveball
Marky Bleazard same
Are you turning your wrist like a curveball? You don’t want that just throw it normal
this might be super late, come down on the seams a bit. By this i mean, if the U shape of the seam is facing away, so upside down U with the horseshoe away from you. Dont grip around the horse shoe, grip the right side of the upward seams. Think 2 seam fast ball grip offset to the middle finger instead. As brought my arm slot up a bit, throwing a slider fulling covered the horse turns into a curve. Coming down on the seams a bit lets the ball slip around my fingers better.
I threw a slider and a knuckle curve, the grips were essentially the same, I choked the ball (held like a two seam) on my slider my pointer finger didn't touch the ball and my follow through was to my left hip (3/4 arm slot) my curve ball was held same way except with the pointer finger nail in the ball and my release was more of a "pulling a string" so follow through was the feeling of trying to reach my left knee... Plenty of difference in movement out of the same arm slot. That's just how I did it
So is the wrist action more like a tomahawk chop or like paint the fence ?
Thank you
Does he throw it like a fastball or kinda like a football. The way you throw the curve
Football spin also gyro spin is a cutter. A slider has backwards diagonal spin
Slider and the 12-6 best pitches in baseball
on release you should think like this; "fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, fastball, ..... sliiiiiiiiiiiddddderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
I’m using this in my next game I pitch
Thk you
I throw a slider and it is very nasty but I like to grip it like a four steamer but your fingers together and another very weird thing that I do is i turn my wrist in wards. Some people might think it is weird but it works for me and I am comfortable with it.
That's more of a basic breaking ball/curve
I never see how you release pitches, I think that's also important! Why not show that perhaps in slow motion?
Dude can tuck his thumb because he’s 6’ 3”. I’m not sure that would work the same for me at 5’ 10”. Also, Scherzer is just a freakishly phenomenal hurler of the baseball. I’m a Rangers fan, but I’ll always watch a truly skilled pitcher throw a game. Give me a great matchup where two ace pitchers are shutting down elite lineups and everyone else is bored... I’m having a blast watching them rack up K’s, paint corners and force people to ground into doubles.
Hey Antonelli baseball I'm in little league and I want to know how to release the ball for a curveball. Thanks you are the best.
Will have a bunch of those videos coming soon! Thanks for watching!
I always taught in little league to focus on your fastball and changeup so as to not put extra stress on your arm. Save the junk for high school. I added a slider in high school that had some solid 10 to 4 break but my great was closer to a 2seam fastball grip.
All this said, I stopped playing freshman year because I didn't see myself being good enough to ever have a chance to be drafted. That, and I played with a guy that was drafted i believe in the 16th round out of high school and he was exceptionally talented compared to me.
John CENA like Chris Kelly said, if you are in little league you should be throwing 3 pitches.
4 seam, 2 seam and Change up. Get proficient in those, learn the proper way to throw them and work on accuracy.
Make sure you have proper pitching mechanics prior to throwing any pitch. If your mechanics are garbage any pitch you learn to throw will also be garbage.
In little league when you reach the majors division start working your curve and when you play juniors or legion start you slider if needed.
No curveballs until age 15
Guess what would have been a lot cooler than you NOT showing the pitches...
Gracias voz sipote
I don’t understand how it’s possible to bring your fingers over the front side of the ball, Just before releasing it, without taking lots of speed off of the ball.
I throw it same way
Thanks
Mine you'd turn the ball shown there 180 degrees and hook middle finger on seam at skinniest point of seams, index finger tight next to it and thumb curled in hooking horseshoe seam under ball, ring and pinkie finger tips curled to touch bottom of palm. From low 3/4 it had more late break than drop. Haven't yet taught it to my boys, I think 13 is still too young for him (will be late bloomer) to throw anything but fb and ch. and variations of each.
SALVATION is the most important thing in this life, it’s you accepting JESUS’s free gift to enter heaven when you die, you don’t have to be perfect you don’t even have to be good. You just gotta believe JESUS died for you and as it says in John 3:16 “For GOD so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that who ever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” And if you believe that and want to say a prayer like this you can “Our father in heaven I believe I’m a sinner and I repent of my sins, GOD I believe that you sent your one and only son to die for us and GOD I Believe that you rose your son from the dead three days later, and JESUS come into my heart and save me.” And if you believe that you can be saved rn
Why would I want to hear you explain how he throws the ball ? When you actually watch the master explaining how he throws the ball.
Throwing a slider in Little League
What you said is throw not handling a slider😤
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This is a curveball not a slider
awful tutorial