I like to paddle and fish too. Got the 119 and LOVE this boat. Super stable, tracks great, turns on a dime. I have room for a fishing crate and gear. Its pretty much a perfect solo canoe.
I know that's me as a first time canoe buyer I'm torn between buying one of these two boats !!! I love the longer Next more weight capacity and higher back seat over the Sportsman Solo but all the features on that solo and I wouldn't be hauling that much gear any way so I guess what will push me over the edge on my decision would be which of the two would be more stable in the water and I hear the Next model is somewhat faster of a canoe in the water !!! Damn !!! Decisions decisions !!!!
I still would pay up for another OT Pack, I love mine SO much... thanks for this compare vid though. I still think I'm gonna stay with the traditional 119 for my next boat. Mostly aesthetics for me. But I know...these new styles are catchy to most.
@@LancasterCountyMarine thanks for that agreement too. I feel the same. I just checked your site...all that inventory looks amazing! Hope you sell a bunch this season!
Initially when the next came out a few years back there was issues with the seat popping out of the tracks. Old town fixed that quickly with a running change that holds the tracks tightly to the seat
I contacted old town and they sent a second tether to strap the bars together. Before that I just used paracord to hold them together to keep the seat up.
The Esquif is 42 pounds. And they do not list a weight capacity. There are almost no boats in this realm that are lighter than 42 to 50 pounds. The only thing lighter than these are kayaks youd not trust in remotely the same environment and Kevlar boats. 50 pounds is not heavy for a boat.
@@Pierre50mm It's not a big deal man. And honestly not a big difference in weight. Was only pointing it out because they are so close in weight. Both are cool little solo boats. I owned a 119 for a while and used it often on several trips. But it's weight capacity for its size and weight I felt was not all that great.
Can I cartop that Solo 119 with a traditional foam blocks and straps? The elevation of the seat support looks like it might be prohibitive? Or can it be done? ty
Good Video..I really like the old town discovery 119 solo sportsman. I have question, Is any way I can add the carrying yoke on this canoe Thanks cheers
I had another guy ask me that same question today. Unfortunately on solo Canoes you really cant add a center yoke. However, the boats are so slim it is easy to pick them up and carry them over your head.
Thanks for video. Looking at the Next, I have a short (5.5') bed truck with no racks on it now. What is best way to transport this securely? Seems like it might be a little long to just drop tailgate and strap down.
I have a Ford Ranger with a 5 ft bed. I open the tailgate, put the canoe in on an angle and tie it down on both ends, works fine. I also bought the Yakima HD Racks. I can put it on top or in the bed. After a long days trip, I throw it in the bed...lol Its easier.
Seriously looking at purchasing one these 2 canoes. What's the best/most effective way to secure this size boat against theft while out traveling? Obviously I won't leave it for long. But if I'm traveling and need to stop in at a grocery store or something, is there a commonly recommended locking system for a lightweight canoe when it's strapped to a roof rack? Thankyou for any input on the matter
Our store address is 4448 Oregon Pike, Ephrata, PA 17522 but be sure to check out our website at www.lcmboating.com for our current hours and closure dates for the holidays. Thanks!
Would either of these be easier/faster to paddle than a 126 Loon? I'm leaning towards the 119 but I think the Next would be faster to paddle. Any suggestions? Some of the videos talk about how fast the 119 is.
Been eyeballing these two for a while. I kayak camp using a rtm tempo sot. Great kayak, pretty quick even hauling my gear. I think one of these would make a bit nicer camping canoe. I'm in central Georgia, and all we have are lazy rivers near me. Tracking is a big deal. Which of these would make a better camping canoe? A typical weekend paddle is around 40ish miles. I don't want a slug on the water. I would love some advice, never owned a canoe. Really want the open cockpit for gear and comfort.
Based on what your looking to do, the old town Next would be the better canoe. In the video we talk about camping and cargo room. The next is a solid choice for what your describing.
@@LancasterCountyMarine thank you for getting back to me. I thought it would be, but I saw comments that the sportsman paddled better in rivers. Kinda had me second guessing.
I had both boats. The Next has versatility, the 119, cannot be adjusted or modified. I really loved the Next. Not so much the Disco119, not a canoe, not a kayak, turkey bacon. Grown mans pool float
I currently have the Next. Was thinking of selling it for a sportsman. How do you find the comfort level in the sportsman? Have you taken the Next down any rivers? How did it do?
@@wingednomad8423 the Next is the most comfortable seat in the paddling universe. The sportsman cramped my buttocks in an hour. I cannot say how much I make SS my Next seat. I would never call a next a whitewater boat, so by river, I’m thinking a flat one would be fine. I had a older type shallow v hull. They newer ones seem different . I did explore some Maine coast in summer and loved how it tracked in current and some waves. Again, this is a small watercraft. I went up to 16’ because o needed more boat in my waters to be eafe
@@wingednomad8423 I was generally disappointed with the disco sportsman 119. All gimmick, very little canoe. Grown mans lazy boy for the bass pond. Keep your next
@@buttermilkstackswithbluebe7546 Thank you for the honest opinion good sir! ive taken back my deposit on the sportsman and put it toward a canoe barrel and some camping gear. Looking forward my first multi day trip on the North Saskatchewan river in the eastern slopes of the Rockies=)
I like to paddle and fish too. Got the 119 and LOVE this boat. Super stable, tracks great, turns on a dime. I have room for a fishing crate and gear. Its pretty much a perfect solo canoe.
Would be awesome if the exterior had a birch bark pattern
Exact comparison I was looking for. Still don’t know which one to buy lol
I know that's me as a first time canoe buyer I'm torn between buying one of these two boats !!! I love the longer Next more weight capacity and higher back seat over the Sportsman Solo but all the features on that solo and I wouldn't be hauling that much gear any way so I guess what will push me over the edge on my decision would be which of the two would be more stable in the water and I hear the Next model is somewhat faster of a canoe in the water !!! Damn !!! Decisions decisions !!!!
When will the Next be available??? 7 March 2022. I will buy one. Old Town Site says currently unavailable...how much to ship to Palo Alto, CA? Thanks
Contact our store, we have been getting the NEXT canoes in.
Just love these comparison videos! Both rides are nice. Made in USA!!!
What is the price different of these canoes please comment Back and let me know thank you very much for this video
What would you recommend for the Columbia River I'm planning a tour with a canoe but don't want to break the bank either
I still would pay up for another OT Pack, I love mine SO much... thanks for this compare vid though.
I still think I'm gonna stay with the traditional 119 for my next boat. Mostly aesthetics for me. But I know...these new styles are catchy to most.
Have you looked at the Esquif Adirondack pack?
@@LancasterCountyMarine I have, thank you. I guess if one came along at the right price.
@@Motorcyclewindtherapy we sell quite a few traditional discovery 119 canoes, I think that’s actually a great canoe priced cheaply for what it is.
@@LancasterCountyMarine thanks for that agreement too. I feel the same. I just checked your site...all that inventory looks amazing!
Hope you sell a bunch this season!
So will the Next model handle not only flat water but will it handle class 1 and 2 water as well ?
Next can handle class 1 pretty well, class two is possible depending on the paddler.
Seats seem to pop out of the NEXT where the plastic dips and the rails drop. Have you had any issue with this? If so, what did you do to fix?
Initially when the next came out a few years back there was issues with the seat popping out of the tracks. Old town fixed that quickly with a running change that holds the tracks tightly to the seat
I contacted old town and they sent a second tether to strap the bars together. Before that I just used paracord to hold them together to keep the seat up.
Can a second seat be installed for a child passenger (small 12 year old) to fish with me?
What is better for on a river? What is better for on a lake?
People don't talk like that around here
Can you add a 2nd seat to the Next? Use for camping and short trips? Thanks!
Discovery 119. Great litte solo... but too heavy, 50 lbs. The Esquif Adirondack is 38 lbs.
The Esquif is 42 pounds. And they do not list a weight capacity. There are almost no boats in this realm that are lighter than 42 to 50 pounds. The only thing lighter than these are kayaks youd not trust in remotely the same environment and Kevlar boats. 50 pounds is not heavy for a boat.
@@projectknifehand
Rignt. I mistaken. Don't remember where I got that number.
@@Pierre50mm It's not a big deal man. And honestly not a big difference in weight. Was only pointing it out because they are so close in weight. Both are cool little solo boats. I owned a 119 for a while and used it often on several trips. But it's weight capacity for its size and weight I felt was not all that great.
awesome video
Can I cartop that Solo 119 with a traditional foam blocks and straps? The elevation of the seat support looks like it might be prohibitive? Or can it be done? ty
Methinks I should give Santa a "heads up" about how 'needed' the 'next' is . . . .
Good Video..I really like the old town discovery 119 solo sportsman. I have question, Is any way I can add the carrying yoke on this canoe
Thanks cheers
I had another guy ask me that same question today. Unfortunately on solo Canoes you really cant add a center yoke. However, the boats are so slim it is easy to pick them up and carry them over your head.
thanks for the video how those in marina or rough water ? i want to get one.
I live on the Yellowstone River. Would you Discovery Sportsman be better for paddling on the river? I have been looking at the Next canoe
It would be a slight bit more maneuverable
@@LancasterCountyMarine Thank you, I appreciate your response
Thanks for video. Looking at the Next, I have a short (5.5') bed truck with no racks on it now. What is best way to transport this securely? Seems like it might be a little long to just drop tailgate and strap down.
Pickup a bed extender for your pickup
I have a Ford Ranger with a 5 ft bed. I open the tailgate, put the canoe in on an angle and tie it down on both ends, works fine. I also bought the Yakima HD Racks. I can put it on top or in the bed. After a long days trip, I throw it in the bed...lol Its easier.
Seriously looking at purchasing one these 2 canoes. What's the best/most effective way to secure this size boat against theft while out traveling? Obviously I won't leave it for long. But if I'm traveling and need to stop in at a grocery store or something, is there a commonly recommended locking system for a lightweight canoe when it's strapped to a roof rack? Thankyou for any input on the matter
Pick up a heavy duty security cable, about 9 foot. Wrap the cable around the seat frame and go around your crossbar. This is how I lock my boats up.
Too bad the 119 doesn't come with oar locks
What is the msrp on the 119 Sportsman canoe?
Hello guys, I would like to visit your store, can you tell me the address please, thank you
Our store address is 4448 Oregon Pike, Ephrata, PA 17522 but be sure to check out our website at www.lcmboating.com for our current hours and closure dates for the holidays. Thanks!
can you put a trolling motor on the 119?
Im a bigger guy 300 lbs would the sportsman have an issue with me and gear?
The boat will hold you, but I think you would be better suited for a larger model canoe.
Which would be better for paddling a somewhat long along the coast with mild waves? I know none are ideal, but if I were to get one?
I think I would choose the NEXT when paddling through mild waves.
I don't see any Pirogues in that shop.
Way are they hard to get Alberta Canada.
I can't find a Next anywhere. Did old Town quit selling them?
Contact our store, we are getting the NEXT canoes.
Anyone put a trolling motor on it
Would either of these be easier/faster to paddle than a 126 Loon? I'm leaning towards the 119 but I think the Next would be faster to paddle. Any suggestions? Some of the videos talk about how fast the 119 is.
It is possible to say the next could be as fast as a loon 126. I don’t think the 119 would be comparable
Great video. Thanks. One question. Is the removable seat made so you can use it nex to the fireplace, or nex to the tent?
I have one and i have used it for this purpose often
@@nathanolson732 Thank you for the reply. Much appreciated. I think I will go for this canoe. 👍🏻😊
Been eyeballing these two for a while. I kayak camp using a rtm tempo sot. Great kayak, pretty quick even hauling my gear. I think one of these would make a bit nicer camping canoe. I'm in central Georgia, and all we have are lazy rivers near me. Tracking is a big deal. Which of these would make a better camping canoe? A typical weekend paddle is around 40ish miles. I don't want a slug on the water. I would love some advice, never owned a canoe. Really want the open cockpit for gear and comfort.
Based on what your looking to do, the old town Next would be the better canoe. In the video we talk about camping and cargo room. The next is a solid choice for what your describing.
@@LancasterCountyMarine thank you for getting back to me. I thought it would be, but I saw comments that the sportsman paddled better in rivers. Kinda had me second guessing.
Which is harder to tip?
I really wanted this video. Thanks.
You're welcome!
Sou do Brasil, gostei muito.
Thanks 🇨🇦👍
I had both boats. The Next has versatility, the 119, cannot be adjusted or modified. I really loved the Next. Not so much the Disco119, not a canoe, not a kayak, turkey bacon. Grown mans pool float
I traded then in towards Esquif Avalon and I’m VERY happy 😃 with it !(that’s another video no one has made ( hint -hint))
I currently have the Next. Was thinking of selling it for a sportsman.
How do you find the comfort level in the sportsman?
Have you taken the Next down any rivers? How did it do?
@@wingednomad8423 the Next is the most comfortable seat in the paddling universe. The sportsman cramped my buttocks in an hour. I cannot say how much I make SS my Next seat. I would never call a next a whitewater boat, so by river, I’m thinking a flat one would be fine. I had a older type shallow v hull. They newer ones seem different . I did explore some Maine coast in summer and loved how it tracked in current and some waves. Again, this is a small watercraft. I went up to 16’ because o needed more boat in my waters to be eafe
@@wingednomad8423 I was generally disappointed with the disco sportsman 119. All gimmick, very little canoe. Grown mans lazy boy for the bass pond. Keep your next
@@buttermilkstackswithbluebe7546 Thank you for the honest opinion good sir! ive taken back my deposit on the sportsman and put it toward a canoe barrel and some camping gear. Looking forward my first multi day trip on the North Saskatchewan river in the eastern slopes of the Rockies=)