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  • @PremierHistory
    @PremierHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Which rank do you think is the backbone of the Royal Air Force?
    Welcome back! If you are new here make sure to hit subscribe to expand your knowledge on Military History and join the growing Premier History Community!

    • @moonbaby6134
      @moonbaby6134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Corporal.

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Corporals do all the work, every time

    • @peace-now
      @peace-now 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Squadron Leader. Airmen associate with a squadron for example, 617 Squadron, the Dambusters or 303 Sqaudron in the Battle of Britain.

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peace-now in ww2 a sqn Ldr would indeed command a squadron but now no there is no need

    • @peace-now
      @peace-now 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexrowson-brown6568 I was referring to the English type formations, not the US. In the US, the Squadron is still the basic unit of the Air Force. A US squadron is headed by a Major or these days, a Lt. Colonel (possibly due to rank inflation).

  • @mrjockt
    @mrjockt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    The rank of Lance Corporal is specific to the Royal Air Force Regiment only and has no equivalent in any other RAF trade, the Senior Aircraftman Technician was introduced to replace the old rank of Junior Technician, in the old technical trades Senior Aircraftman was the highest rank a mechanic could reach before doing advanced training and becoming a Junior Technician, the lowest rank of technician, this was a necessary step to achieving NCO rank.

    • @booldawg
      @booldawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      same with the Army I guess; different ranks for different regiments.

    • @viveksapphire
      @viveksapphire ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi guys, I'm an applicant in the process of joining the Royal Air Force.
      I'll be covering the entire application process on my channel. I just posted a video about the Selection Interview on my channel which I think may interest some of you!
      I'd appreciate it if you had any feedback too.
      Thank you.

    • @jjsmallpiece9234
      @jjsmallpiece9234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even then the rank of Lance Corporal for the Rock Apes is still new-ish. Even Rocks never had the rank when I wore a blue suit.

  • @scotia001
    @scotia001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Lance Corporal rank was introduced in 2010 within the RAF Regiment (RAF Infantry) only, and is not a rank used in any other type of RAF Units.

    • @bholasingh-yx4uu
      @bholasingh-yx4uu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes also, seniour aircraft technician is only on certain trade, so SAC is highest rank before you jump to corporal in many trades..
      video is gonna make more confuse.

  • @bobbralee1019
    @bobbralee1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Also it must be noted that promotion in the RAF is far slower then the Army due to a longer expected career span. Rank for rank RAF personnel are on the whole far more experinced and often have more responsibility than many Army personnel at the same rank.

    • @insertnamehere5660
      @insertnamehere5660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The experience and responsibility I wouldn’t say are higher than the Army, remember Army personnel leave the wire more than RAF

    • @bobbralee1019
      @bobbralee1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@insertnamehere5660 What do you mean by "The wire" ?

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobbralee1019 As an ex RAF tech', I haven't got a clue what he's saying?

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. Its dead mans shoes.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bobbralee1019 Basically infantry doing foot patrols in Afghanistan compared to airmen staying on an airbase and never leaving.
      But its comparing apples to oranges. Both couldn't do the other persons job.

  • @topsouter
    @topsouter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dad was a Load Master Sergeant, I was born in Penang. I had the joy through the 60's and 70's of being dragged halfway around the world as a family of a RAF serviceman... sure taught me a few life lessons

  • @ROBRV
    @ROBRV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Nicely done. I feel this video would be useful to cadets, however it needs more detail. For example- lance corporal is within the RAF regiment and RAF police are promoted to corporal at the start of their career.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think some air traffic controllers and nurses are promoted to Sgt at the start of their career too, after training.
      PTI's are also a Cpl.

    • @marknorville9611
      @marknorville9611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notmenotme614 Total RUBBISH PTI's and Police are ACTING CPL's they are basically SAC rank but because they are in a position of importance then they get the stripes. As for nurses RUBBISH, if they are civvie nurses who have joined the RAF with a high level of degree then yes they do get promoted depending upon their experience. However, one of which said to me that he was an acting such a such a rank. However, if you join the RAF and have no experience then you go through the ranks as per normal. An acting what ever is not the same as a real CPL or SGT they do not hold the full rank. In ATC you also have SAC's. It is not an automatic promotion, however if you came from Heathrow airport as a civvie then yes that might be the case. A full CPL or SGT etc out ranks an acting all of the time. Also the pay is different as well, an acting will not get the full pay of a proper CPL, SGT etc. So an acting PTI or snow drop in this case will not get the same pay as a proper job. However, for nurses based on their experience then yes their pay bracket will be different. Doctors and Dentists are instant officers and pay to reflect that rank and experience.

    • @yodaslovetoy
      @yodaslovetoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Raf police are given the rank but not the pay of corporal. Anyone less that a corporal does not have arrest powers

    • @baronedipiemonte3990
      @baronedipiemonte3990 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yodaslovetoy That's similar to the Federal Law Enforcement authority of the US Coast Guard... Only Petty Officer 3rd class (NATO OR-4) and higher may exercise federal authority, or effect arrests of military personnel under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. However, for American Military Police (Army, Air Force, Marines) if you have graduated from Military Police school, you are promoted to OR-3, issued a badge, and technically may effect arrests. Navy MPs, called Master at Arms, must be at least Petty Officer 3c (OR-4) to make arrests. Most of the time an "arrest" meaning *restraint/taking into custody/confinement is done by a Non Commissioned Officer (OR-4 & above), and applies to enlisted personnel. In the U.S. , Warrant and Chief Warrant Officers are in the same category as Commissioned Officers (they are saluted etc). The USAF no longer has Warrant Officers. Also, unless directed by a Commanding Officer, or unless they have committed a felony offense in the presence of a Non Commissioned Officer or higher, no Warrant or Commissioned Officer may be confined/taken into custody/physically restrained. They are otherwise "on their honor" to remain in quarters, limit their own liberty, etc... Whenever possible, in matters involving military justice, Officers are handled by Officers.

    • @baronedipiemonte3990
      @baronedipiemonte3990 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notmenotme614 Historically, since the Second World War, U.S. Nurses are Commissioned Officers who may only exercise Officer authority over other nurses/enlisted or NCO medical personnel. It's not unusual for a "senior" nurse i.e. Lieutenant Colonel to militarily outrank a Doctor i.e. Captain. She is to be saluted, but may not give orders to a Doctor.

  • @colincampbell817
    @colincampbell817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lance Corporal is only in RAF Regt and only so that the Army can understand who are the section or fire team leaders. There is an unnoficial rank of Senior Senior Aircraftman - who are the most experienced and trusted SAC's who carry most of the workload in the absence of any actual NCO's (which happens more often than you think!!!!)

  • @leopardknowledge.1430
    @leopardknowledge.1430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Once again another great video and I really hope that you get 10,000 subscribers really soon

  • @scotia001
    @scotia001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The SAC(T) rank, a 3 Blade Propeller insignia inside a circle, replaced the Junior Technician rank title that had a 4 blade propellor (with no surrounding circle) in 2005.

    • @thearmouredpenguin7148
      @thearmouredpenguin7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the four bladed prop superseded a single inverted chevron in 1964.

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So what happened to those that were already JT's? Did they just 'Mark time' until they made Corporal or left the RAF?

    • @thearmouredpenguin7148
      @thearmouredpenguin7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnp8131 I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they did.

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thearmouredpenguin7148 Thanks mate, I'm glad I left when I did? I believe my old trade of Armourer hardly exists at 2nd and 3rd line any more? And what's left have dropped pay bands drastically?

    • @thearmouredpenguin7148
      @thearmouredpenguin7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnp8131 Likewise, I got out in the mid 80's. I met one of the last few remaining JTs sometime around 2008 when he was on a training course with the company where I worked.
      I think 3rd line has virtually ceased to exist in all trades. As far as I can make out the kit seems to go from 1st line, via a 2nd line filter bench, directly back to the manufacturer/4th Line,.

  • @ceddyspaghetti7905
    @ceddyspaghetti7905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My grandfather from New Zealand was a sergeant in the RAF in WW2. thanks again for another informative video 😎👍🇳🇿

    • @PremierHistory
      @PremierHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for sharing Ceddy

    • @peace-now
      @peace-now 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My mother was god friends with Johnny Checkitts who became a wing commander in WW2. She also knew Edgar Kane, who flew in the Battle of France.

  • @VikhyatChauhan15
    @VikhyatChauhan15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My grand father is in royal airforce he is started with lance corporal and ended with Group captain
    He passes in 1958-2016 😭😭😭

  • @bobdylan7120
    @bobdylan7120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They abolished the rank of Junior Technician (4-bladed prop) because the idiots at the top could see no purpose in it. Only when it had gone did they realise there was no way to distinguish between an SAC Mechanic and an SAC Engineer. Having got the Queen to ditch the JT rank they couldn't embarrass themselves by asking her to reinstate it, so they came up with the circle around the 3-bladed prop). Millions of taxpayer pounds wasted simply because the neddies at the top don't know how the RAF works.
    These are the same class of idiots that years ago gave all the Trade List 1 (Engines, Airframe, Electrics) Chief Technicians a massive pay rise (because they work on aircraft) but gave nothing to the List 2 (Airborne Radar, Comms, Nav Instruments, etc) Chiefs. Fact is Trade List 2 Personnel have exactly the same responsibilities as List 1. It's the LINE of service that determines where you work. 1st Line is on aircraft, 2nd Line is in the Bay, 3rd Line is at a Maintenance Unit and 4th Line is the Manufacturer, and any engineer can be sent to work on any of them. The Air Rank morons didn't even know the difference between Trade Lists and Lines of Service!

    • @lorettarussell2823
      @lorettarussell2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I was in the RAF airmen or airwomen that went to Henlow became Flying Officers,in recognition of previous service

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Trade group one worked on a/c and had responsibility to the aircrew and PAX, unlike the hangar skivers! TG1 are in demand in civvy street and paid better! Mr bitter!

    • @bobdylan7120
      @bobdylan7120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JohnSmith-ei2pz Total BS!
      Trade Group 1 was the 'Heavies' (Engines, Airframes , Electrics), Trade Group 2 was the 'Fairies' (Radar, Comms, Nav Instruments, Av Systems). BOTH Trade Groups worked on Aircraft (1st Line), in the equipment bays (2nd Line), at Maintenance Units (3rd Line) and, on occasion, 4th Line (Industry).
      Common novice mistake to confuse Trade Groups with Lines of Maintenance.

  • @angelitotiapson1461
    @angelitotiapson1461 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice!!!

  • @briangoulden6687
    @briangoulden6687 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The use of Aircraftman has now been abolished in The RAF and, I believe, the use of Air Specialist and Aviator have replaced it.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is there still any one in the RAF, all technical work is contracted out. Maybe a few FLM's and driver the skivers on the flightline?

  • @richardweil8813
    @richardweil8813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought it was odd that non-pilots and other ground personnel could be "pilot officers" and "flying officers". It is interesting how the RAF combined elements of naval and army ranks into naming its structure, perhaps because it amalgamated fliers from both. Taken without the words "flight," "wing" or "group" the ranks are equivalent to the RN.

    • @dat581
      @dat581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's because the Officer ranks were taken directly from the Royal Naval Air Service when it was combined with the Royal Flying Corps to form the RAF.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its just a name and not a description

    • @nutyyyy
      @nutyyyy ปีที่แล้ว

      If I recall, they wanted to use Admiral ranks as well, but the RN opposed it. So they went with Marshals. Which is a smart move and differentiates the branches nicely.

  • @marknorville9611
    @marknorville9611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In relation to an AC, although you get no rank tabs, you do wear squadron colours so in my days it would be a red, blue, green beret disc and also a coloured scarf. So you did have an identity and the basis of a rank. However, when you pass out of trade training then the forces are not really the forces any more, it becomes a small village and nine times out of ten you are on first name basis with the majority of the ranks. It was only a select few that actually went by their ranks. Yeah you would still address officers as Sir or Maaam, but when they are in civvies then pretty much knew their names. The one out of the ten who went by their ranks, were usually the bullies that made your life shit.

  • @Marie579
    @Marie579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yes the Air Force was better when it had Jelly Totts !

  • @allandavis8201
    @allandavis8201 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Leading Aircraftman rank is awarded on the completion of basic trade training and is not because they are more experienced.

  • @thegamingguy7115
    @thegamingguy7115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video! Could you make a video on the Australian Military ranks?

    • @dat581
      @dat581 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are 95% the same as British ranks.

    • @thegamingguy7115
      @thegamingguy7115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.

  • @hubster1792
    @hubster1792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Dad is a CPL and is an ASOS (Air and Space Operations Specialist)

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Under which trade is that?

  • @lesliegardner2692
    @lesliegardner2692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When did 'Aircraftman' cease to be a rank used in service? (Just asking). I remember two 'such ranks - AC1 & AC2.

    • @marknorville9611
      @marknorville9611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is not, and you only have one AC rank or you did in my days. You was an AC as soon as you sign up, I was at Swinderby so I am the original old skool and we were straight AC's there was no AC1 or 2. I am not sure if that was different during WW2 or if they have changed since my day.

    • @lesliegardner2692
      @lesliegardner2692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marknorville9611 Just for info' AC1 &AC2 were introduced in the RAF on Jan' 1919.They were phased out on 1st April 1964. The lowest rank then becoming simply 'Aircraftman'. (I just looked it up). Hope this helps.

    • @saxav88
      @saxav88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I joined the RAF in 1975. When you were doing basic training at Swinderby you were an AC 2. After you passed out of Swinderby you were an AC 1. Then when you had gone on to and completed your basic trade training you were an LAC.@@marknorville9611

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We were just called you, or airman by officers and SNCO's not by rank many times!

    • @user-xt9kl1vm3z
      @user-xt9kl1vm3z 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Funnily I put SAC retired after my name but was told only Officers can put it after their names!Utter bollocks 😂😂😂

  • @johnp8131
    @johnp8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who retired from the RAF in the mid nineties after a 22 year stint, a few of these non-commissioned ranks were new to me?
    When I first joined, I was told that the Flight Sergeant rank had been changed in the early seventies, as prior to that, it had equivalent to Chief Tech' in technical trades. Then they split them so a Chief would be paid less? I always found it strange that non-technical ranks would skip the rank of Chief Tech' but be senior to them, although often less qualified and experienced?

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep its like technical trades have an extra 2 ranks to jump through... Junior Technician (or its modern equivalent) and Chief Technician

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Were you non-technical? A/C, LAC, SAC, CPL, SGT, Flt SGT, WO man? Technical and best paid A/C, LAC, SAC, JT, CPl, SGT, C/T, FLT SGT and then WOman

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnSmith-ei2pz I was an Armourer from start to finish, at the beginning we were still know as "Fitters" or "Mechanics", if you took the long route. It was still Trade Group One at that time, being amongst the highest pay bands along with Riggers, Sooties, etc...... We used to work on everything armament wise down to fourth line servicing. Alas no more, much of the armament trade has been "civilianised" and they are no longer trade group one or the equivalent I believe. Finished as a Sgt working mostly on ejection systems.

  • @stevecowham1017
    @stevecowham1017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An SAC is generally given the rank after completing a year after finishing trade training. A Flight Lieutenant is normally in charge of around thirty personnel, a "flight", or "platoon" in the army. They might also be an ops officer or adjutant .

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On a flying squadron. The aircraft engineering ranks work like this....
    SAC is the mechanics working on the aircraft.
    SAC(T) are just SAC's with further training, They still need to be supervised though. In aircraft engineering, supervision is a requirement. SAC's will do the most basic tasks on the flight line, like refuelling and flight servicing. While the SAC(T)s do more complex fault rectification. You're either "on the line" or "doing trade"
    Cpl is the supervisor in aircraft engineering trades. And if there’s a small team working on one aircraft he will be in charge of that team. If you want to be hands-on the jet doing spannering, Cpl is the best rank as you don't get the bs that the SACs have to put up with and every rank after Cpl is a desk job. Backbone of the RAF.
    Sgt is the manager who does the desk work. He plans what maintenance is going to be done and by who. Sgt’s also carry out independent inspections on critical systems and assess wiring damage. SNCOs have the experience to be subject matter experts when fault finding and asking what to do.
    CT is the trade manager, who looks after the trades manpower, courses and whos getting posted in and out.
    FS is the shift boss. They'll be one FS per shift. They will work out the shift roster and leave, similar to CT but for the entire shift rather than for one trade desk.
    WO is the non-commissioned boss of the whole Squadron. They'll only be one of them. If you're called into the WO's office, you've done something wrong. A one way conversation without tea or biscuits.
    A Junior Engineering Officer just says “yes” while the WO or FS is stood next to them whispering in their ear. There's one Jengo per shift.
    Sqn Ldr is the Senior Engineering Officer of the Squadron. Mostly there to approve work and sign it off. A Sengo will be on their second tour, while a Jengo will be on their first tour.
    Wg Cdr is the CO of the Squadron and is usually a Pilot, sometimes a Nav.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There were very few warrant officers engineers, in my time. Very accurate explanation.

  • @petersmith9077
    @petersmith9077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was in the RAF during 1962 to 1967.Usually there were more technician ranks then such as Jnr. Tech, Cpl Tech. Snr.Tech. Has the RAF abolished such ranks?Usually then the Cpl & Snr.Tech. ranks displayed inverted chevrons appropriate to their status. When did the RAF change this? PJS.

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They've gone. I changed from a fitter to a technician in the seventies. Didn't get any more money though! I believe there's pretty much only 1st line and limited 2nd line servicing now? Most 2nd line, 3rd and 4th has now been privatised?

  • @jimpolk
    @jimpolk ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a presentation where you compare the insignia of all the Army, Navy, and Air Force side by side by rank?

  • @bytio
    @bytio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s missing the SNCO Aircrew ranks (different as they have the aircrew eagles on)

  • @aqueenslander
    @aqueenslander 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All rank descriptions are now out of date

  • @viveksapphire
    @viveksapphire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi guys, I'm an applicant in the process of joining the RAF.
    I'll be covering the entire application process on my channel and I recently posted a video about the DAA and Selection Interview recently, which I think may interest some of you.
    I'd love to hear your feedback, thank you!

  • @him050
    @him050 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aircraftman has now become Aviator, just as an FYI :-).

  • @GOBBYBOY333
    @GOBBYBOY333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good video, but you missed out three ranks within the NCO section RAF Sergeant Aircrew, three strips with wings above, Flight Sergeant Aircrew, three strips , wings and a crown and Master Aircrew, coat of arms, wings and laurels.

  • @Radman7789
    @Radman7789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pilot Officer is not for non-graduate direct entry officers. It is the starting rank straight out of Cranwell for all ground branches apart from Engineering Officer. All aircrew start as Flying Officer. Thus the minority of officers graduating have the rank of flying officer out of training. Those who start as Plt Off's are only this rank for 6 months before automatic promotion to Fg Off.

  • @jacobsow8202
    @jacobsow8202 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: RAF regiment uses air force rank or Army/marine ranks?

  • @MiniforceRailfan
    @MiniforceRailfan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Missed Marked Ranks:
    0:28 Aircraftman
    2:00 Corporal
    2:17 Sergeant

  • @gb4ever
    @gb4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Launched 3 weeks ago and unfortunately incorrect. The terminology "aircraftman" no longer exists and has been replaced by "aviator".
    Also the rank of Lance Corporal only exists in the RAF Regiment and is used to denote the section 2IC.

    • @danielhendry8376
      @danielhendry8376 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is not aviator in terms of rank though is it they are Air specialist.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No more Airmen then? Why would a reg grunt fly an a/c (aviator)? Logic and raf do not mix!

  • @mrjockt
    @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two years later and the ranks have been changed again, Leading Aircraftsman, Senior Aircraftsman and Senior Aircraftsman Technician have now been replaced with Air Specialist (Class 2), Air Specialist (Class 1) and Air Specialist (Class 1) Technician.

    • @thearmouredpenguin7148
      @thearmouredpenguin7148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Guaranteed promotion and gongs all round for those sitting on their arses in Whitehall who thought of that.

  • @PROWLER2103
    @PROWLER2103 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the Indian Air force except for the rank of pilot officer on other commissioned ranks are used all commissioned officers of the Indian Air force hold the rank of flying officer

  • @Mountianlions69
    @Mountianlions69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was in the highest paid trade to include SAC's, TG13B, Ptr & Fnr, Painter and Finisher, we were paid extra due to the explosive and poisonous environment of an aircraft and vehicle spray bay and chemicals associated with surface finish restoration. Trade is now carried out by Serco affectionately known as circus by the ex Ptr & Fnr trade.

  • @gordonhilder6448
    @gordonhilder6448 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The back bone of the RAF used to be an SAC , and for tech used to be JTs now it’s a AS2

  • @shaneconroy3499
    @shaneconroy3499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Isnt the Aircraftman in the RAF regiment called a Gunner ?

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always used to be. Maybe the 'Rock Apes' have a new PC name instead of Gunner these days?

  • @davidcampbell3722
    @davidcampbell3722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very well presented video the ncos are the backbone of any of the forces 👌👌

    • @PremierHistory
      @PremierHistory  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks David glad you enjoyed it

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you want to be a hands on engineer doing spannering. Cpl is the best rank.
      And its debateable who's really in charge of a shift... the WO / FS or the Flying Officer.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to be a hands on engineer doing spannering. Cpl is the best rank.
      And its debateable who's really in charge of a shift... the WO / FS or the Flying Officer.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FS or WO not the pretty boy!@@notmenotme614

  • @aqueenslander
    @aqueenslander 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about women's RAF ranks? Is "officer" still in use i.e. Flight Officer or Squadron Officer etc?

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How sexist! There have been women sering in the RAF for decades! Known as mam!

    • @mrjockt
      @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those ranks were all discontinued in the late '60s when the WRAF adopted the same officer ranks as the RAF, the WRAF itself ceased to exist in the early '90s.

  • @steamfandan9682
    @steamfandan9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since when did the rank of Lance Corporal become an RAF Rank?

    • @Altavista006
      @Altavista006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since 0212 in the RAF Regicment only.

    • @Altavista006
      @Altavista006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bloody computer keyboard (or more likely me)! ..... Since 2010 in the RAF Regiment only.

    • @steamfandan9682
      @steamfandan9682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Altavista006 thank you for that used to be in the ATC ( Now RAF cadets )

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its RAF Reg, for the 2 i/c of a section.
      It was created to reward them for the responsibility

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in the RAF. Only in the regiment.

  • @checkout5017
    @checkout5017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are out of date now. Recruits are ranked AR (Air Recruit)
    It then goes
    AS2. (air serviceman)
    AS1
    AS1 (Tech)

  • @jjsmallpiece9234
    @jjsmallpiece9234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Historically, according to what was Queen's Regulations, when the RAF still ran the engineering apprenticeship scheme (ended 1993) The lowest rank in the RAF was Apprentice not Airman.

    • @mrjockt
      @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Surely since you had to go through basic training, as an airman, before starting apprentice training that would put airman lower down the pecking order than apprentice.

    • @jjsmallpiece9234
      @jjsmallpiece9234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrjockt No. I remember being a little surprised as well. It does make sense that 'apprentice is the lowest rank. After basic training an airman might go and do his trade training e.g. Supplier etc and then finish training and get posted to a unit.
      Whereas the lad who joined as an apprentice still had to complete his 3yrs apprentice to be of any use.
      Its certainly the rank order from RAF Queens Regulations in the 1980s - apprentice was the lowest rank. Engineering apprentice training was a training scheme all of its own. I know I did it. It was, I guess, like going to public school.
      Not sure what happens now - with the re-introduction of the so called modern apprenticeships.

    • @mrjockt
      @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jjsmallpiece9234 If that's correct then ''whooppee'' I was actually higher in rank than others at Halton, lol.🤣

    • @jjsmallpiece9234
      @jjsmallpiece9234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrjockt Its is correct for the 1980s and to the end of the RAF engineering scheme in 1993

  • @captainamerica4095
    @captainamerica4095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m gonna join the RAAF when I’m older and hope to be a fighter pilot

    • @tdpro3607
      @tdpro3607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its cool to have dream but i hope you understand the hardship it brings. good luck on your journey

    • @sausage_roll2561
      @sausage_roll2561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's so much more to do in the RAF than shoot guns or fly

    • @dar2ski309
      @dar2ski309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish you luck

  • @jjsmallpiece9234
    @jjsmallpiece9234 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Senior Aircraft Technician used to be called Junior Technician. So what was the point of replacing JTs? The rank of Lance Corporal is new, far too much like an army rank.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chief Technician was the senior rank mentioning "Technician" there were/are Flt SGTs and W/O technical a/c trades.

    • @jjsmallpiece9234
      @jjsmallpiece9234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnSmith-ei2pz Correct. Hence why I question getting rid of the JT rank/airman to signify and engineering trade group. I was in TG1.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably to pacify the non-technical trades who hated techies!@@jjsmallpiece9234

  • @nickhart8961
    @nickhart8961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back bone of the RAF, every time SAC.

  • @Jarry29287
    @Jarry29287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👌

  • @arthurtaylor4391
    @arthurtaylor4391 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why are corporals wearing sashes ? In the army, sergeants and senior ncos only

  • @alistairhudson8163
    @alistairhudson8163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even with three university degrees it is possible to graduate from RAF Cranwell as a Pilot Officer rather than a Flying Officer.

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, really depends on how much you know of the trade you are going into upon graduation from cranwell, some even grad as flight lieutenant though usually they are in medical roles

    • @ethanmasters6722
      @ethanmasters6722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You will only grad from cranwell as a pilot officer nothing higher if you come from university or civilian even if you have 3 degrees

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ethanmasters6722 not true people gead as flying officers and flight lieutenant if medical

    • @ethanmasters6722
      @ethanmasters6722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexrowson-brown6568 only if you have commissioned from a non-commissioned rank you go in at one above others who come straight in I think

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ethanmasters6722 that doesn’t always hold true, if you were a snco beforehand perhaps you would graduate at fg off but certain professions such as doctors have not only done medical degree but also all their training in the nhs to be fully certified, they come in as a flt lt upon graduation

  • @RykerPlay
    @RykerPlay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please do royal marine next 🙏

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s same as the army

    • @scotia001
      @scotia001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      RM uses the same rank structure and insignia as the British Army infantry Units.

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotia001 thank you for saying what I said but in more words

    • @scotia001
      @scotia001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexrowson-brown6568 you mean ‘more eloquently’ ….

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotia001 “why use more words when few words do trick”

  • @kayngo87
    @kayngo87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hardest rank has to be Cpl. Both producer and supervisor and face of every trade.

    • @notmenotme614
      @notmenotme614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True. Its the highest rank thats hands on

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notmenotme614 Used to still get my hands dirty as a Sgt Armourer when I could. Trouble is 90% of the trade has gone! I would agree with Cpl though.

  • @michaelraf4893
    @michaelraf4893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CORRECTION!!
    Lance Corporal Rank: Only to personnel serving in the RAF Regiment

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Too thick to join the RAF technical trades and too stupid to join the army? So not real RAF!!

  • @alistairhudson8163
    @alistairhudson8163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lance Corporal is only in the RAF Regiment

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Army so not proper RAF!!

  • @paulhumphrey3948
    @paulhumphrey3948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are still a couple of Junior Technicians floating about.

  • @georgegarcia1445
    @georgegarcia1445 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There aren't that many. It's only confusing to those ignorant of the military ranking system.

  • @JohnnySmithWhite-wd4ey
    @JohnnySmithWhite-wd4ey 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All militaries depend on their NCO's to function.

  • @jackthelad5366
    @jackthelad5366 ปีที่แล้ว

    L/Cpl in the regiment is the 2i/c of a section and is in charge of a fire team, 2 fire teams make a section the Cpl is the section commander the descriptions of the regiment on here are bollox

  • @endoflevelboss
    @endoflevelboss หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are you speaking in slow motion dude? You add 20% speed there to get things moving

  • @martinjones12
    @martinjones12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed out the Aircrew ranks, namely Sergeant Aicrew, Flt Sergeant Aircrew, and Master Aircrew........ These are the backbone of the flying Branch, most crews of the Second World War and even today were NCO Aircrew.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes correct. RAF Officers flying club do not want to mix or acknowledge Sargeant pilots serving in the Army Air Corp! Or that SGT's were Pilots during WWII

  • @ronnienairn2057
    @ronnienairn2057 ปีที่แล้ว

    My older brother works for the RAF and he opened a door to someone who's new with his middle finger and a officer came by and said 'is that to me?

  • @Mister_Pedantic
    @Mister_Pedantic ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you will explain the rank structure of the Canadian military. It's pretty straight-forward except for the Master-Corporal rank/appointment.

  • @LEESS1005
    @LEESS1005 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have chief technician,but NO aircrew sergeant,

  • @altaylor3988
    @altaylor3988 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    S.A.C. the basis of ALL Squadrons.

  • @forsdykemontague1017
    @forsdykemontague1017 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has now changed as Aircraftman is now Air Specialist presumably to be gender neutral 😂

  • @jean-paul7251
    @jean-paul7251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There seem to be so many ranks in every organisation on earth according to you! 🤣

  • @user-vj7ko6ns4c
    @user-vj7ko6ns4c ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m in Air Force cadets does that count?

  • @brucejohnson1588
    @brucejohnson1588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aircraftmen, do exist in service personnel

  • @arzenyukimatammu5165
    @arzenyukimatammu5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Third ig

  • @pgh45rpms
    @pgh45rpms หลายเดือนก่อน

    How has the commissioned officer insignia changed, due to King Charles as monarch?

    • @user-xt9kl1vm3z
      @user-xt9kl1vm3z 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      King's crown on headgear?

  • @squarelime1
    @squarelime1 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you please do a video on the Australian Air Force ranks?

  • @user-op3cq7qp2v
    @user-op3cq7qp2v ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to be there..CAP

  • @BenJamin-tx7ol
    @BenJamin-tx7ol หลายเดือนก่อน

    Highest rank in the Air Force is Mister. !😊

  • @carforumwanker
    @carforumwanker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yours fucking truly OF2
    RAFR

  • @Sandhoeflyerhome
    @Sandhoeflyerhome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed one… Specialist !

    • @geocachingwomble
      @geocachingwomble 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That isn't a Rank in the RAF as the British don't use it

    • @Sandhoeflyerhome
      @Sandhoeflyerhome 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it is. It’s an officer rank. A Good friend was one. Rare but a rank none the less. It occurs when for example you have ‘specialist’ skills too valuable to lose from an aircraft role. Example, airborne early warning, or Elint. Normally those people are held at Flt Lt rank. Otherwise they would be promoted and moved off the aircraft to a desk and so on. So the rank specialist was created. My friend was paid as a Sqn Ldr but wore the rank of `Flt Lt’ but with the addition of an insignia saying specialist . Everyone knew he was of Sqn Ldr rank.

    • @bobbralee1019
      @bobbralee1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think you may frind that Specialist is a Branch such as legal not a rank as such, I served 35 years and never heard of it and its not listed by the RAF as a rank on their website.

    • @jefffranklin4894
      @jefffranklin4894 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Specialist is a role not a rank

  • @MrJoseSamuels
    @MrJoseSamuels 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needs updating.

  • @different262
    @different262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have missed cadet officer

    • @jefffranklin4894
      @jefffranklin4894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Switch it around but yeh, Officer Cadets are the ranks of COs when going through Cranwell or while they are with the University Air Squadron

    • @JammyDodger45
      @JammyDodger45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not really a rank, it carries no actual authority, for example an OC can't issue a direct order to a junior rank they can merely ask them to do something.

  • @stevenlangdon-griffiths293
    @stevenlangdon-griffiths293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cook

  • @johnnunn8688
    @johnnunn8688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    L/Cpl is RAF Regt only and the chevron is inverted.

    • @thearmouredpenguin7148
      @thearmouredpenguin7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The current RAF Regiment L/Cpl chevron is not inverted. Prior to 1964 Junior Technician rank insignia was an inverted chevron.

    • @johnnunn8688
      @johnnunn8688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thearmouredpenguin7148, you win the inverted argument but I win the Rockape part.

  • @jordankelly9329
    @jordankelly9329 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WO are NCOs

    • @alexrowson-brown6568
      @alexrowson-brown6568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup as they are officers by warrant not commission

  • @frederickbootland1781
    @frederickbootland1781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The RAF spend more time in hotel rooms thanany of the other services.

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was on shortish NATO detatchments a lot whilst at RAF Wyton when the Canberras were there in the eighties and nineties. And I must admit, other than regular visits to Akrotiri and Kinloss, most of the time on European detachments, we were in Hotels with imprest payments for meals too. Often this was mainly due to the majority of the detatchment personnel being junior NCO's upwards (RAF & Navy combined) and many NATO Airforces only had substandard conscript accomodation and messing?

    • @ashleyrosser9979
      @ashleyrosser9979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RAF, because we tried harder at school.😁

  • @Ben501uk
    @Ben501uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is also the rank of Hotel Booker.

  • @GrenvilleP710
    @GrenvilleP710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ranks in the RAF are very simple. The lowest entry rank was Hairdresser next by seniority and exam is Runway Sweeper 3 rd Class then 2nd Class on the Award of a new broom gaining Runway Sweeper First Class after passing exam for Pilots Mate ..This rank being achieved by selection. Senior Pilots Mate was awarded on performance and enthusiasm. .Very few reach the Rank of Flighty Sargent's Instructor. .. Station Mincing Instructor is an Honoury position without pay award. ...

  • @toma8689
    @toma8689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    officer cadet (off cdt) was missed!!!

  • @freespeech4023
    @freespeech4023 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SAC has now been replaced with AS1 for those who have finished training .they had to go AS1 and 2 as SAC had man in its name and the females were being called Serior Air Craftsman 😂😂

    • @mrjockt
      @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can't understand why they didn't just switch out ''man'' and ''woman'' in the rank designation with ''person'', i.e. Leading Aircraft Person, Senior Aircrafts Person.

    • @freespeech4023
      @freespeech4023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrjockt then we would be nick named Laps and Saps ahhahaa

    • @mrjockt
      @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@freespeech4023 Instead they’re called “ass 1’s” and “ass 2’s”, I know which I’d prefer.

    • @freespeech4023
      @freespeech4023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mrjockt no they are called AS1 and AS2

  • @Thisiswhereweare1946
    @Thisiswhereweare1946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First i am first

  • @scavenger141
    @scavenger141 ปีที่แล้ว

    Officer ranks in India is also same lol

  • @krishivmehta6135
    @krishivmehta6135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wing commanders and seargents are the backbone

    • @danielhendry8376
      @danielhendry8376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cpls…….

    • @johnp8131
      @johnp8131 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely not Wing Commanders as they're senior management and there's too few of them. Probably was Cpl as they can manage lesser ranks and do the donkey work if necessary. At least that was the case 20 years ago.

  • @NekoVityaz_5
    @NekoVityaz_5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second :v

  • @andrewharrison5983
    @andrewharrison5983 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The back bone of the RAF is the Corporal, generally Sergeant's and above tend to be tied up with essential administrative duties and paperwork.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bollox... SAC's, come back when you grow up!

  • @defensordoom5833
    @defensordoom5833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the Royal Air Force

  • @richardslater677
    @richardslater677 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hasn’t the term “aircraftsman” gone now? Replaced with something non gender specific?

    • @PotatoSalad614
      @PotatoSalad614 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@englishspoon2930 RAF went woke now its going broke

    • @user-xt9kl1vm3z
      @user-xt9kl1vm3z 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely 💯!

  • @stevecowham1017
    @stevecowham1017 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd say that Sargent is the backbone of most forces.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No SAC"

    • @mrjockt
      @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back when I served in the RAF, the 1980's, Sergeants were more often concerned with paperwork and admin duties and left the day to day running of things to the Corporals.

  • @Obnubilation
    @Obnubilation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Before Pilot Officer there is Acting Pilot Officer. They hold A Commision but have not yet had initial Officer Training.

  • @kiwiadventures3773
    @kiwiadventures3773 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to the rank of Squadron Leader in 12 years.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What on X-box Rupert?

  • @alannewport4553
    @alannewport4553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lac are the back one of the raf

  • @PotatoSalad614
    @PotatoSalad614 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RAF went woke. Aircraftsman is gone

    • @mrjockt
      @mrjockt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They didn't like aircraftsman or aircraftswoman so went to air specialist, what was wrong with just saying aircraftperson?