Top 3 Ritchie Blackmore Song Steals

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  • @owenevans4532
    @owenevans4532 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Steppin Out was actually first recorded by Eric Clapton on the Blues Breakers with Eric Clapton album from 1966. It's actually a cover of a Memphis Slim song from 1959. Jesse Gress, writing for Guitar Player magazine, noted that Ritchie Blackmore's "bluesy head to 'Lazy' (from Deep Purple's Machine Head) fondly paraphrases Slowhand’s [Clapton's] Bluesbreaker-era showcase 'Steppin’ Out,' right down to the same style of third-position swing-sixteenth G blues riffing".

    • @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz
      @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Thanks for this info!

    • @grahamjeffries4566
      @grahamjeffries4566 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Ripping off how about the eagles hotel California even copy the solo of jethro Tull we used to know

  • @tproudboomer5965
    @tproudboomer5965 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +6

    I love Zeppelin, but we can all agree no one borrowed from other artists more than Page did.

    • @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz
      @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

      Ya, there will be videos coming on that.

    • @BBaldwin
      @BBaldwin āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +4

      Everyone borrowed from everyone else. The old blues men borrowed from each other! The origins of many of the classic blues progressions cannot even be traced, so they fall within the public domain (they cannot be copyrighted anyway, only lyrics and melodies can). Besides, Zeppelin’s arrangements were light years beyond those that inspired them.

    • @flazjsg
      @flazjsg āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

      Nobody ever talks about the greatest Zep tunes. What was Kashmir a rip-off of? How about Achilles Last Stand? Song Remains the Same? Rainsong? Carouselambra? In the Evening? How about the arrangement of Stairway - going past the intro part? Wanton Song? Ten Years Gone?
      Robert Johnson did plenty of other people's tunes. It wasn't until the big money started flowing in - then the lawyers smelled blood. You can hear DeBussy in Aaron Copeland. Major artists influenced everything that came after. The Beatles were the biggest rock influence of them all.
      Zep was ripped off by other bands way more than the other way around. Blackmore's thievery is often very blatant - moreso than Zep.

    • @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz
      @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@flazjsg Very well-reasoned! Appreciate your comment and view!

    • @itsmedrooms6071
      @itsmedrooms6071 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      It goes back to the early blues artists who used to borrow each other’s material all the time. Jimmy did the same type of thing on multiple occasions it’s true, but we’re only talking about it because of the enormous success that Zeppelin enjoyed and everyone is looking for a pay day. They were taken to court and he did have to give credit eventually on several occasions. One of the more recent cases was a dispute over Stairway which Zeppelin won.

  • @robertstan2349
    @robertstan2349 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    this is what we call 'influence' 😋

    • @loulasher
      @loulasher āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      There's a reason driving under the influence is illegal.

  • @kerrydavidsadler980
    @kerrydavidsadler980 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Is there anything that's not being copy as far as music goes.

  • @rodcrispo5859
    @rodcrispo5859 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    My favorite guitar player

  • @flazjsg
    @flazjsg āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Stargazer takes a lot from Led Zeppelin's Kashmir. There's also a Rainbow tune, "Catch the Rainbow", that's Hendrix's "Little Wing."

    • @javier8218
      @javier8218 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

      Stargazer doesn't take anything from Kashmir, the only thing they have in common is being a 8 minute song with some orchestral work and a middle eastern feel. I don't think neither Blackmore nor Dio had listened to Kashmir and thought let's make a song like this one for Rainbow.

    • @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz
      @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      I was going to mention Stargazer and Kashmir, but the vid was running long. "Catch the Rainbow" slipped my mind, so good on you for that one! Appreciate your comment! Hope you'll subscribe if you haven't yet. 😎

    • @flazjsg
      @flazjsg āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@javier8218 The bit on Stargazer from :55 to 1:10 is right out of Kashmir. Is the intro like Kashmir? No. Is most of the song like Kashmir? Not necessarily. But that bit I mentioned is a LOT like Kashmir. What a coincidence, by the way, that one year after Physical Graffiti is released Rainbow comes out with a long middle-eastern song with the same tempo and vibe. "Jealous Lover" is also another Clapton rip.

    • @javier8218
      @javier8218 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@flazjsg Stargazer riff is in phyrigian dominant over a steady chord of B and its notes are
      1-2m-1-3M
      1-2m-1-5
      1-2m-1-2m-1-7m-1
      Kashmir riff is a chromatic chord progression of A-A#-B-C-D (1-2m-2M-3m-4)
      Later in the song there are some licks in A phrygian dominant over the chord progression of G A G A...
      The first lick notes are:
      7m
      1-2m-1-7m-1-2m-4
      5-4-3M-4-5
      So yes, they both use the phrygian dominant scale, and yes, the use the same 5 notes out of the only 7 notes the scale has, and yes, Kashmir came 1 year before Stargazer. But you can see clearly how the way the notes were used is completely different.
      Being Stargazer some playing a bit above around the root then going high and rest, another playing above then going higher and rest, and another longer playing going above and below to end up on the root. While Kashmir is a start with a long rest below the root then a playing around the root going above and down to then go to a high note (forth) and making the same playing of going above and below the fourth to end up one note above in the fifth. Then it makes some ornaments to return below and basically makes another lick going high to return back and repeat the whole licks.
      To sum up, they use the same scale but using the same scale isn't plagiarism, neither is using licks with a similar sound (middle eastern, which is the sound the use of that scale gives). Plagiarism is using literally a segment of a riff, many exact licks together or some lyrics excerpt.
      And the release of Stargazer as a long middle eastern sounding epic isn't related to Kashmir release a year before as both Blackmore and Jon Lord had been using phrygian dominant/harmonic minor scale since Deep Purple's early days. I might be wrong but I'd dare to say Page hadn't used it until 1975, at least half as much as Blackmore. Appart from Kashmir he's definitely not known by his middle eastern influences as opposed to Blackmore.

    • @flazjsg
      @flazjsg āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      I appreciate the detailed musical analysis. I didn't say it was plagiarism out and out, but given the tenor of this video, it fit in terms of "heavily influenced." The author of this video mentions the Beethoven's 5th thing backwards. That to me is genius on Blackmore's part. Nobody would have noticed - at least no casual listener.
      That bit I mentioned sounds more like Kashmir than anything. You don't need a PHD is musicology to hear it. The guy that runs this channel also noticed it! First time I heard it, it was obvious that it was clearly lifted or "heavily influenced" from Kashmir. Okay, so it's not an exact replica but it's clearly the same vibe, exotic scales and tempo. My ears tell me that. I guarantee that Ritchie Blackmore would acknowledge it. Funny how he found a Robert Plant look alike and sound alike after Ian Gillan left the band, but apparently you don't think Zeppelin is a big influence on Blackmore.
      Page did other middle-eastern modal sounding stuff early on. Four Sticks has a bit of that, so does White Summer and Black Mountain Side (listen and watch the live acoustic versions from 1970), which he obviously stole from Bert Jansch. The "Dazed and Confused" live improvs from 1972/73 get into some strange scales as well.
      Just about every band out there watched what Led Zeppelin was doing. Kiss comes out with "Love Gun" a year after Presence. Listen to the signature Drum bit in it - it's right out of the end part of Achilles. When Led Zeppelin came out with "Stairway", other bands came up with own epics. It laid the blueprint out. Dennis DeYoung of Styx mentioned that - he said after Stairway we(and every band) knew we had to come up with our own epics. Boston's "More than a Feeling" is a good example. Styx "Suite Madame Blue". Heart's "Mistral Wind." Ever wonder why Van Halen's first album is called VH I. The second VH II. All of it is thanks to Led Zep.

  • @blackjackmusic1107
    @blackjackmusic1107 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    In Deep Purples defense, there are only so may notes we can play, only so many patterns as a drummer I can play. I've borrowed from some of the greats to write my best stuff, but not copied it.Say, play Smells Like Teen Spirit but in a different manner

    • @DAGDRUM53
      @DAGDRUM53 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      As a musician too I wholeheartedly agree. Being inspired to create something new is Job One---if it's similar, oh well, nothing's totally original.
      Another factor is Ricky Nelson certainly didn't write Summertime, numerous artists charted with the song before he did.

    • @flazjsg
      @flazjsg āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      What was stolen was the arrangement. The band Ram jam didn't write the original Black Betty, But the version Pat Travers does is a direct take of Ram Jam. ​@@DAGDRUM53

  • @grahamjeffries4566
    @grahamjeffries4566 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Blackmore was takng the piss about ripping off Beethoven

    • @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz
      @TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      Ya, I think so, too. He usually is.

    • @loulasher
      @loulasher āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Wolf from Accept looted old Ludwig! Metal Heart is a fav of mine because it.

  • @loulasher
    @loulasher āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Two blatant rip-offs are Quiet Maria by Astrid Gilberto and Bombay Calling by It's a Beautiful Day, Smoke on the Water, and Child in Time respectively.