We are actually talking about Jon Lord's Gemini Suite album (Lord's 2nd album with orchestra after 'Concerto') which he wanted to record with Deep Purple after 'In Rock' but Ritchie Blackmore didn't like 'Gemini Suite' and they recorded Fireball instead.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I was living in a rural farming community then in Yorkshire UK, it's amazing how Concerto suddenly got rocker farm workers to appreciate orchestras, prior to that they would've written it off as 'posh rubbish'
This story is incorrect. Jon Bonham never chased Richie down the studio and beat the crap out of him. Total bs. Richie did tell Jon about the fact that Led Zeppelin was copying songs. But they were sort of having a ‘funny’ go at each other. When you tell a story like that, don’t just say ‘supposedly’ when it never really happened and there’s no evidence showing it. State your sources?
John Bonham and Ritchie Blackmore: two good friends, two "pain in the ass" guys and, without any shadow of a doubt, two of the most talented musicians ever !!!! Go on, Ritchie!!!! R.I.P. Bonzo!!!!
Saw Purple open for Cream in L.A. a lifetime ago at the Forum. They blew the roof off. After Cream’s second disastrous number, people were screaming for Purple to come back out.
That’s amazing! I’m so Jel of you older generation. I’m from a town in the uk called Bristol, my fathers best friend watched Led Zeppelin, black sabbath & Jimi Hendrix in a venue here called “the Colston hall” it’s still there now, such a small venue considering how big they became, he even seen the Beatles at weston super mare (just up the rd from Bristol) what a time to be alive
All the links between these bands are amazing. Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Rainbow, and Whitesnake all traded some key players back and forth throughout the 70s and 80s. Zeppelin was the only one that kept the same lineup throughout. I recently found The Butterfly Ball and The Grasshopper's Feast album that Roger Glover and Ronnie James Dio did together. What an amazing group of musicians.
Man this is great, I got older but my heart is in these stories and still teach my beloved music due too it.thankyou for this inspirational story, as always
What amazing stories about all those great musicians, Bonham my favorite forever drummer, Page and Blackmore those two magnificent guitarists, I got to see RJ Dio live they played Rainbows "man on the silver mountain"1985, Jimmy Page band with Jason Bonham on drums1988, Deep Purple 1987 with that awesome line up, Jethro Tull 1987, The Who 1988, all those great musicians!!🙏
Robert Pland and Cozy Powell were high school friends, if I recall correctly. And remained close friends all their life. Cozy played on Plant's 80's solo albums. RIP Cozy.
Fascinating... not only are Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple my two favorite bands... Blackmore & Page are my favorite guitarists and Bonham & Paice are my two favorite drummers, as well as Plant & Gillan are my two favorite singers. You couldn't plan that, some things just have to fall into place.
Another point to come out of this story. At the end of 1973 Blackmore and ian Paice jammed with Phil Lynott with the idea of starting a new band to be called Baby Face. Unfortunately after that jam the idea was scrapped because they felt Phil's bass playing couldn't keep up with theirs. So for those who say that Roger Glover is just an "average" bass player remember that Blackmore requested him in both of his bands, Purple and Rainbow.
Roger Glover is a phenomenal bass player. Try playing the parts to Highway star or No no no for example. Great note choices and moving around a lot with great melody!! A hero of mine. After he left Deep Purple their sound was thin and brittle. He was a great producer too.
I used to hang out a little at the Rainbow. Lots of rockers hung out there. The odd thing is, no bands played there at least when I was out in LA 1988-2001. Bands played the Whiskey and Roxy, but not the Rainbow. That was one of Lemmy's favorites in 90's. He would roll in most days around 5-6 pm for a long time.
Then you probably never went upstairs, bands played the upstairs room all the time in the timeframe you mentioned, the entry was by the bathrooms into that room.
I met Jason Bonham there in the fall of 1990, just standing by himself, so I walked up and said “your dad was the greatest” and he said something like “Oh thanks mate.” This was around the time his band ‘Bonham’ was trying to make waves. Obviously he knew his Dad used to hang out there, so he was walking in his footsteps. He was totally cool, but I kept it simple and left him alone and walked away. I just wanted to tell him what he already had probably heard a million times before! But it didn’t bother him at all, and it probably never gets old.
Such a great and documented story , thanks for doing this Karren , we won't see this on TV nor music magazines , not those days anymore anyway !! I can imagine Boham running after Ritchie , lots of things i did not know !!! hope you had a great Christmas !! happy holidays mate . rock on !! : )
Why not? Bonham was a pretty strong guy from all the years of heavy drumming. Ritchie messed with people and talked shit a lot. I am surprised Ritchie did not get punched out more often.
This whole clip is like an episode of That Metal Show. And a lot of these stores are 35-40 years old. Great to hear some of these lesser known stories about musicians doing more than turning it up to 11.
Still Bonzo will always be my favorite drummer ever. Even after so many years, and going through so many genres of music. 40 years since I first heard him, he still remains my favorite.
Just finished reading John Bonham bio "Beast" one of the best LZ bios ever. Strongly recommend, the last few paragraphs are shattering, if you remember those days and what could have been...
He comes across as a troubled guy. I know he was ultimately a family man who wanted to be on his farm most of all, but his violent side is pretty disturbing (particularly his assaults on women) .
Nice work ! I believe a young Eddie Van Halen dropped in at one of these guy's visits to The Rainbow. Eddie, happy to see them. sorta like 'get this kid out of here'. Little did they know,,,,tense later. Eddie respected Ritchie.
Great video, I saw Thin Lizzy at that Santa Monica Civic show you mention. Also saw Rainbow at the SMC once but I don't remember the year, but Dio was the singer at the time.
In a interview with Ritchie Blackmore Blackmore said Jimmy Page was a genius guitarist and Jimmy got it! That's when Blackmore decided to take deep purple into the heavy Rock route! Blackmore's words!
Led Zeppelin 1 really sent shockwaves throughout the music world. 2 was what broke them through as the top band commercially. But the first album really impacted the rock world. Deep Purple actually fired their original singer because of Led Zeppelin 1. And Black Sabbath was so inspired by it, that they decided to dramatically switch up their style, because they wanted to go even heavier than Zeppelin. They were doing a style that was more similar to Cream and early Fleetwood Mac. And Roger Daltrey said that Zeppelin came along and “took things to the next level, when everyone else was kind of on the down-end.” Led Zeppelin 1 established Hard Rock as a new genre, and can be totally classified as Hard Rock from start to finish. The first, true Heavy Rock album. Rather than simply having elements of heaviness. It established the “heaviness” in all ways. Guitar, drums, bass, and vocals.
'Gemini Suite' came out after 'In Rock' and before 'Fireball'. Ritchie Blackmore didn't want to play on it and Jon Lord recorded it as his first solo album. That was Jon Lord's second album with orchestra after 'the Concerto'.
I can't imagine Bonzo thinking Purple's music was "shitty rock 'n' roll." Personally, always thought Ian Paice was as good as Bonham, but a little funkier.
Tremendos aportes a la música rock de todos lo tiempos. Ritchie Blackmore guitarrista de Deep Purple y Rainbow. Aunque mi opinión es que con Deep Purple tubo su mejor época de creatividad en conjunto a otro grande como Jon Lord en los teclados de Deep Purple. John Bonham, al día de hoy, considerado el mejor baterista de rock de la historia, junto a Led Zeppelin, tubo momentos de inalcanzable nivel en la batería quedando dentro de la historia como el mejor con las baquetas.
Eso compa tu sabes en verdad Bonham fue el mas popular bateria pero para mi los mejores drummers fueron los progresivos como Neil Peart Bill Bruford Phil Collins ect Bonham aunque fue bien rockero pero no tenia el technico jazz como ellos pero en verdad Bonham fue uno de mi favoritos tambien porque el amaba Ringo Starr y queria ser como el segun Joe Walsh Richie Blackmore fue mi favorito guitarista con rainbow y el epico RJ Dio que voz epico especialmente Rainbow Rising incluyendo Cozy Powell
Back in the 70's. All of the great stories about all of my favorite bands were all told through the grapevine and occasionally i would find books and find out about the crazy exploits of my favorite bands. And I have numerous books and videos about these bands and their legendary exploits. But I am continually amazed on You Tube the constant new information and stories from the past. The stuff those bands did back then and got away with would have probably put them behind bars nowadays.
I loved this - yes - great photos and anecdotes- I am a guitar player; bassist and singer and I credit starting music to Led Zeppelin. I bought Led Zeppelin 2 in 1979 when I was eight years old after hearing an older teenage pot head neighbour playing ‘Heartbreaker’ on his Telecaster ( incidentally my first good electric was a Tele ( Esquire actually - Fender Japanese reissue 1985 ) - My point : John Bonham He is my number 1 musical influence of all time and I don’t even play drums. Why? His imagination; creativity; uncanny sense of time and feel; and his playing SWINGS like no one else. John Bonham is at the top of my musical lineage pyramid because of the sheer musicality of his work.
The Gemini Suite, in fact, was performed live by Deep Purple Mk2 and the Orchestra of the Light Music Society in 1970 and released on LP the same year. Later it was released on CD, first in Europe and later in Japan. I have the Japanese CD. Unlike the Concerto for Group and Orchestra, it sounds more like album Deep Purple In Rock, i.e. dirty and distorted sound. Ritchie Blackmore sounds wild, amazing and unmatched on this record. Several years ago, I think it was 2018, I was lucky enough the get Ritchie Blackmore's autograph on the sleeve for this CD after the "Rainbow" concert in Moscow. It was great, both the concert and the autograph.
Bonhams rage and inner turmoil was part of what made his playing so infernal. At the same time,.....he is that guy that shows up and makes everyone uncomfortable due to everybody knowing he will fight at the drop of a hat. Lol
wasn't at the drop of a hat. the guy was surrounded with narcissistic buttholes, and he gave them what they asked for. don't approve his type of solution, but props for him not taking their bullcrap.
On the 1977 US Tour journalists were issued with a set of rules on how/what/when etc - One of the rules was 'Do not look directly at John Bonham: this is for your own protection' Peter Grant introduced himself to Bob Dylan at an LA party in 1975 thus - "Hi Bob. I'm Peter Grant and I manage Led Zeppelin" Dylan [ as Groucho ] replied "Look man, I don't come to you with my problems" Kenneth Anger said "talking to Jimmy Page was like tapping on inch thick plate glass". "Led Zeppelin? Dangerous assholes" - Cynthia Emerson [ one of the Plastercasters ]. Great band though
As an old regional drummer, I think Paice is the all around best drummer along with Barlow, (yes, J. Tull's 2nd one) and Baker, but let's not forget the amazing Bill Ward from my favorite band. And Blackmore was at or extremely near the top for guitarists.
@@TimLondonGuitarist Not all Zeppelin is heavy, just like not all McCartney is light. Rockestra was McCartney trying to create a live Rock orchestra, with multiple musicians on each instrument. There was a tv special that aired in the late 70s on this, and an example can be found here. th-cam.com/video/qn3KUEMhOB0/w-d-xo.html
@@scottroland1272 I said he did not play with McCartney before Bonham became a member of Led Zeppelin. Since Wings was formed 3-4 years after Led Zeppelin's first album was released, this video corresponds with that timeline.
My favorite story of Bonham was when they were in Japan if I remember correctly. They were on a train, with a female reporter Page was trying to impress. Bonham got hold of her pocket book somehow and took a shit in it, and put it back wherever she had left it. From what I remember, Page was a little upset, lol.
Saw Deep Purple in 1972 Machine Head tour. ELF was touring with them at that time. Makes me wonder if Ritchie and Dio talked to each other back in 1972 while they were touring together?
It's been well documented over the years that that was where the seeds were planted for Rainbow. They both had a fondness for medieval music and history.
According to Jerry Bloom in the book "In the Shadow of the Wizard 1975-76 " there is a recording of "MAN ON THE SILVER MOUNTAIN" with John Bonham on drums. Apparently, Bonham was at the rehearsal.
Elf opened for Deep Purple on a USA tour in the early seventies; that's how Blackmore came to know Ronnie Dio. In fact, Blackmore and Dio went into the studio in 1973 when Ritchie and Gillan's feud was at its highest and Blackmore wanted to leave Deep Purple. Dio and Blackmore recorded one song, "Black Sheep Of The Family" which ended-up on Rainbow's first album in 1975. Blackmore decided to stay with Deep Purple when Gillan left and Ritchie's "solo" project was put on hold.
The dissing of the Rainbow drummer is bollocks, Bonham loved the drumming on the first Rainbow album and in particular an accidental drum fill on MotSM. Cozy was one of many drummers auditioned for Rainbow, the last one, and Ritchie invited him over because of his Jeff Beck connection.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 ok so Bobby Berge is a liar because he definitely auditioned and the various writings/interviews from people like Jimmy Bain indicate a number of people tried and failed until Cozy outdid Ritchie's request for a shuffle and was picked.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 According to Cozy Powell print interviews he has said he did indeed have to audition for Rainbow. He didn't bring his drum kit w/him, & had to use the kit of the previous drummer that had auditioned just ahead of him. He said he thinks it was all theatre of Blackmore's doing to set the tone for their future relationship as his band mate & employee. That's what I have read. There may even be a few videos of several musicians telling the tale as told to them by Cozy. I think Bobby Rondinelli may be one of them.
@@Dibbdroid That is the correct story. Yes Cozy got the job. This guy doesn't know his stuff. In Rock was the First Hard Album by Deep Purple. Fireball was the second.
@@kurtsherrick2066 I ignored the In Rock error, it was too bad. Some of us were around when these albums came out, hoovering up the interviews, watching the tours and the fan forums around have a lot more truth than this channel. This is the guy who claims ACDC blew Rainbow of stage during the Rising tour.... reaches for Deutschland Tournee....
I don’t believe even half of this shit. I do know they were buddy’s because I heard Blackmore say it in an interview. Entertaining banter non the less. I also highly doubt Bonham dissed Ian Paice.
In about 78 I was working in a department store in Manchester UK, and the phone rang and a gruff voice said, its Sutch, is Johnny around, John being one of my work mates who managed bands, so I put Johnny on.
I was at the Station pub in Birmingham watching Spitfire the local Friday night band & often depending on what big band was playing in Brum muso's like Robert Plant, Steve Gibbons, some of the Purple guys, Roy Wood etc would get up & jam with the band. The room was packed & some pissed up chubby dude in front of me with a very loud sports jacket on kept swaying left & right nearly bumping into to me. I said to my mate "I'm going knock this prick out if he bumps into me again" at that moment the band on stage said over the mic that John Bonham (one of my hero's) was going to get up & jam with the band! you guessed it, it was the pissed up guy in the loud sports jacket & proceeded to destroy the poor drummers kit but played a great drum solo. So glad I didn't whack him.
You may have needed up similar to Bill Graham's (concert promoter) security person, brutally beaten, by Bonham, Cole, Bindon, and Grant. They were all charged with assault.
How could that have worked when Jimmy didn't meet Bonham until July of '68, and that song was released in April of '68? Bonham wasn't a studio musician
Correct me if I'm wrong.... but did thin Lizzy do an album under the name " funky junction Plays a tribute to deep purple" ??. I'm sure i heard that when i was a teenager.... im 58 now !!
Bonham did not play with Wings before Zeppelin. That to my knowledge was two one off things - a studio jam on Beware My Love and the 1979 Hammersmith Concert - the benefit one where he played on the Rockestra thing. Maybe he did a studio version of that theme song as well.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 No apologies required. I was being unnecessarily pedantic. Still, at least it proved that I paid attention … and, even admit to liking Wings, lol!
Rainbow started work on perfect strangers in 1980. only a partial demo was produced. Thin Lizzy released an album of DP covers under Funky Junction. Bonzo was gr8 on McCartney, Beware my love.
2:06 .... I read a slightly different version where John took Jason to a Police show and backstage the elder stepped on Sting's shoes and Sting said "hey man don't step on my blue suede shoes" to which Bonham replied "I'll step on your head in a minute.."
Wow man, I get it, Jimmy Page "lifting" a really small bit from Hey Joe and made Whole Lotta Love from it. It's such a minor riff, not even a riff and it's easy to identify in Hey Joe. I wonder if Hendrix reacted to this. I saw in an old interview on youtube where Page kind of reluctantly mentioned Hendrix' name when asked who he thought was the best guitarist of all time, but upon further thought I think Page could have been more humble about it and his thoughts on Hendrix. Hendrix was head and shoulders better than anyone else but egos get in the way of others stating flat out who was the best. Thanks for video dude, very interesting 👍
I think Ritchie was just winding Bonham up. Whole Lotta Love has nothing to do with Hey Joe. Maybe Immigrant Song. Anyway Whole Lotta Love sounds unique, nothing like Hey Joe.
To me, Bonham was the Pacific or Atlantic Ocean. The other great drummers that I respect, were creeks, rivers, or tributaries that flowed into the Bonham ocean 🌊 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
That’s a great comment. While Rich was undoubtably technically better, Bonham sounded better, rocked harder and was more instantly identifiable but like all things, this is a matter of opinion…
Sorry but we are actually talking about Jon Lord's Gemini Suite album (Lord's 2nd album with orchestra after 'Concerto') which he wanted to record with Deep Purple after 'In Rock' but Ritchie Blackmore didn't like 'Gemini Suite' and they recorded Fireball instead.
I could EASILY picture Bonham, in a drunken rage, peeling Blackmore's hair off his head. Ronnie James Dio was one of my ALL TIME...favorite Singers...and Cozy was a GREAT drummer.
I got the Bonham bio book BEAST a few days ago and that book tells the truth and it is not very complimentary regarding his character, Bonham was a great drummer but also a bully and that's not cool
@@karsguitarchannel6088 must have been a strange time. You have Blackmore and Bonham who were good friends and then you have John Paul Jones saying he doesn’t like Blackmore and basically saying he really wasn’t a big session guy in the early days.
In Rock was the first Deep Purple Album after Deep Purple and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. Fireball was the second. In Rock is the Hard Rock Album that changed everything. Child In Time. Depending on the Copy Eddie Van Halen's Eruption was influenced by Ritchie's Intro into Speed King. My copy doesn't have that intro or Black Night. Mine is a American Release. But that is for sure what influenced Eruption.
We talk about 'Gemini Suite' here not 'the Concerto'. Fireball came out after Gemini Suite. Yes sure In Rock was Purple's first hard rock album, nobody argues that
We are actually talking about Jon Lord's Gemini Suite album (Lord's 2nd album with orchestra after 'Concerto') which he wanted to record with Deep Purple after 'In Rock' but Ritchie Blackmore didn't like 'Gemini Suite' and they recorded Fireball instead.
Does this mean if Gemini had gone ahead Fireball might never have happened ? (Fireball was my 1st brush with heavy rock).
@@TimLondonGuitarist Yes absolutely
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I was living in a rural farming community then in Yorkshire UK, it's amazing how Concerto suddenly got rocker farm workers to appreciate orchestras, prior to that they would've written it off as 'posh rubbish'
Glad u cleared that up cuz I was about to nerdily make a correction about what the first big hard rock album was that Purple recorded after Concerto😁
This story is incorrect. Jon Bonham never chased Richie down the studio and beat the crap out of him. Total bs.
Richie did tell Jon about the fact that Led Zeppelin was copying songs. But they were sort of having a ‘funny’ go at each other. When you tell a story like that, don’t just say ‘supposedly’ when it never really happened and there’s no evidence showing it. State your sources?
John Bonham and Ritchie Blackmore: two good friends, two "pain in the ass" guys and, without any shadow of a doubt, two of the most talented musicians ever !!!! Go on, Ritchie!!!! R.I.P. Bonzo!!!!
I used to think of these guys as old boring rock!but listening to Bonham drumming, its pretty easy to hear how good he was!
My favourite guitarist and my favourite drummer. Awesome.
Saw Purple open for Cream in L.A. a lifetime ago at the Forum. They blew the roof off. After Cream’s second disastrous number, people were screaming for Purple to come back out.
That’s amazing! I’m so Jel of you older generation. I’m from a town in the uk called Bristol, my fathers best friend watched Led Zeppelin, black sabbath & Jimi Hendrix in a venue here called “the Colston hall” it’s still there now, such a small venue considering how big they became, he even seen the Beatles at weston super mare (just up the rd from Bristol) what a time to be alive
I thought I have seen every photo of Bonzo ever shot but in this story I saw 3 photo of John that I have never seen before !! Very impressive.
Even the one with Lemmy and Phil Lynott? LOL
The best one remains the one with the oral $ex t-shirt.
@@tombieder8916 That shirt is so Bonham !! When he had a few in him I hear he really could make the ladies swoon 🥴🥴
@@kenglass7833 do you think the t-shirt helped him with the ladies ? Aha
@@tombieder8916 Tom, how could it not ??
Brilliant time to be alive. This music defines my life.
All the links between these bands are amazing. Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Rainbow, and Whitesnake all traded some key players back and forth throughout the 70s and 80s. Zeppelin was the only one that kept the same lineup throughout. I recently found The Butterfly Ball and The Grasshopper's Feast album that Roger Glover and Ronnie James Dio did together. What an amazing group of musicians.
That one got me through high school.
Glenn Hughes shines with an outstanding Vocal performance on that Album too.... Fresh outa Rehab. th-cam.com/video/gsWjT_cTfAo/w-d-xo.html
Man this is great, I got older but my heart is in these stories and still teach my beloved music due too it.thankyou for this inspirational story, as always
Great pleasure to hear this, thank you so much!
What amazing stories about all those great musicians, Bonham my favorite forever drummer, Page and Blackmore those two magnificent guitarists, I got to see RJ Dio live they played Rainbows "man on the silver mountain"1985, Jimmy Page band with Jason Bonham on drums1988, Deep Purple 1987 with that awesome line up, Jethro Tull 1987, The Who 1988, all those great musicians!!🙏
Robert Pland and Cozy Powell were high school friends, if I recall correctly. And remained close friends all their life. Cozy played on Plant's 80's solo albums. RIP Cozy.
Wrong cozy powell was from london and plant was from west bromwich and bonham lived in the uk
@@zog97xy no you wrong not me
Who's Robert Pland?
@@lusighfer As I said, Pland was Cozy Powell's high school buddy. Nothing do with Robert Plant the musician.
@@lusighfer Robert Plant è il cantante e leader dei LED Zeppelin.
I watch all your videos about Blackmore, this is your best one.
Thank you so much Darren, I appreciate! Rock 'N' Roll!
These videos are OUTSTANDING. Full of info I've never known.
Great pleasure to hear this! Thank you for checking out, much appreciated!
Stargazer is one of the best rock songs in history. Epic.
Stargazer or Kashmir? They're both brilliant, but I prefer Stargazer. I think Dio was a much better vocalist than Plant.
Fascinating... not only are Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple my two favorite bands... Blackmore & Page are my favorite guitarists and Bonham & Paice are my two favorite drummers, as well as Plant & Gillan are my two favorite singers. You couldn't plan that, some things just have to fall into place.
Another point to come out of this story. At the end of 1973 Blackmore and ian Paice jammed with Phil Lynott with the idea of starting a new band to be called Baby Face. Unfortunately after that jam the idea was scrapped because they felt Phil's bass playing couldn't keep up with theirs.
So for those who say that Roger Glover is just an "average" bass player remember that Blackmore requested him in both of his bands, Purple and Rainbow.
Yes I did a story on Blackmore's 'Baby Face' project with Phil Lynott.
Roger Glover is a phenomenal bass player. Try playing the parts to Highway star or No no no for example. Great note choices and moving around a lot with great melody!! A hero of mine. After he left Deep Purple their sound was thin and brittle. He was a great producer too.
Baby face...wow blackmore had s** names for bands back then, rainbow kicked a* but it had a fruity name too. 🤔
@Disc Dfs mmm awful immature names for bands or whatever. Kick a** bands though
Glover is an in-the-pocket bassist and an excellent one.
Sir! Thank you so much for this!
You are very welcome, many thanks! Much appreciated!
I used to hang out a little at the Rainbow. Lots of rockers hung out there. The odd thing is, no bands played there at least when I was out in LA 1988-2001. Bands played the Whiskey and Roxy, but not the Rainbow. That was one of Lemmy's favorites in 90's. He would roll in most days around 5-6 pm for a long time.
Bands didn’t play the Rainbow, they hung out there.
I used to see Jason Bonham, Slash, Lemmy (amongst others) at the Rainbow.
Then you probably never went upstairs, bands played the upstairs room all the time in the timeframe you mentioned, the entry was by the bathrooms into that room.
I met Jason Bonham there in the fall of 1990, just standing by himself, so I walked up and said “your dad was the greatest” and he said something like “Oh thanks mate.” This was around the time his band ‘Bonham’ was trying to make waves. Obviously he knew his Dad used to hang out there, so he was walking in his footsteps. He was totally cool, but I kept it simple and left him alone and walked away. I just wanted to tell him what he already had probably heard a million times before!
But it didn’t bother him at all, and it probably never gets old.
Such a great and documented story , thanks for doing this Karren , we won't see this on TV nor music magazines , not those days anymore anyway !!
I can imagine Boham running after Ritchie , lots of things i did not know !!!
hope you had a great Christmas !!
happy holidays mate . rock on !! : )
Why not? Bonham was a pretty strong guy from all the years of heavy drumming. Ritchie messed with people and talked shit a lot. I am surprised Ritchie did not get punched out more often.
well , ritchie is authentic and Bonham too , just it made me laugh ; )
Many thanks for checking out Christophe, I appreciate! Happy Holidays to you too
@@michaelcraig9449 Happy Holidays Michael, thanks for the visit!
This whole clip is like an episode of That Metal Show. And a lot of these stores are 35-40 years old. Great to hear some of these lesser known stories about musicians doing more than turning it up to 11.
Very interesting and informative. Fascinating information, thank you very much for this slice of rock and roll history
You are very welcome, great pleasure!! Thank you!
Still Bonzo will always be my favorite drummer ever. Even after so many years, and going through so many genres of music. 40 years since I first heard him, he still remains my favorite.
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Well, he is the G.O.A.T.
@@johnnielsen2093 yeah
"The greatest rock drummer England ever produced"
-John Bonham in regards to Barry Barlow
Had Rainbow's Long Live Rock n Roll on 8 track when I was a kid with headphones and a love for music.
I love hearing stories like these about the mighty Zep.
This is great you have all the wonderful anecdotes of rock stars of that era...... good Lord Bonham was quite the character
Many thanks Chris, much appreciated! Rock on
Just finished reading John Bonham bio "Beast" one of the best LZ bios ever. Strongly recommend, the last few paragraphs are shattering, if you remember those days and what could have been...
He comes across as a troubled guy. I know he was ultimately a family man who wanted to be on his farm most of all, but his violent side is pretty disturbing (particularly his assaults on women) .
@@drummer78 all to much to young
I'm reading it now. It's a great read.
In 1974 I saw Deep Purple with opening acts Elf & Aerosmith. Quite an awesome outdoor show in a football field. I remember tickets cost $6 !!
I saw that same tour in the Astrodome. Except the opening bands were Navasota, Elf, and J. Geils Band.
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Big thanks, much appreciated!!!
Nice work !
I believe a young Eddie Van Halen dropped in at one of these guy's visits to The Rainbow.
Eddie, happy to see them.
sorta like 'get this kid out of here'.
Little did they know,,,,tense later.
Eddie respected Ritchie.
Many thanks!!!
True. I've read that in a couple different books.
Great video, I saw Thin Lizzy at that Santa Monica Civic show you mention. Also saw Rainbow at the SMC once but I don't remember the year, but Dio was the singer at the time.
Many thanks!!
In a interview with Ritchie Blackmore Blackmore said Jimmy Page was a genius guitarist and Jimmy got it! That's when Blackmore decided to take deep purple into the heavy Rock route! Blackmore's words!
True. I watched a Blackmore interview not very long ago where Ritchie said this same thing.
Pero como guitarrista, prefiero a Ritchie ...
Cuidado, estos son todos tipos de 8,50 para arriba, en escala de 1 a 10 ... 😎🇦🇷
Led Zeppelin 1 really sent shockwaves throughout the music world. 2 was what broke them through as the top band commercially. But the first album really impacted the rock world. Deep Purple actually fired their original singer because of Led Zeppelin 1. And Black Sabbath was so inspired by it, that they decided to dramatically switch up their style, because they wanted to go even heavier than Zeppelin. They were doing a style that was more similar to Cream and early Fleetwood Mac. And Roger Daltrey said that Zeppelin came along and “took things to the next level, when everyone else was kind of on the down-end.” Led Zeppelin 1 established Hard Rock as a new genre, and can be totally classified as Hard Rock from start to finish. The first, true Heavy Rock album. Rather than simply having elements of heaviness. It established the “heaviness” in all ways. Guitar, drums, bass, and vocals.
'Gemini Suite' came out after 'In Rock' and before 'Fireball'. Ritchie Blackmore didn't want to play on it and Jon Lord recorded it as his first solo album. That was Jon Lord's second album with orchestra after 'the Concerto'.
wow, that was great . Good to hear these stories and pass them down to the next generation
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Rock 'N' Roll!!!
I can't imagine Bonzo thinking Purple's music was "shitty rock 'n' roll." Personally, always thought Ian Paice was as good as Bonham, but a little funkier.
Ian Paice is fucking Dynamite 🧨!!!
@@JohnSmith-rk6jy getoff mykitchngo away
Bonham was louder and heavier
Alcoholics say a lot of dumb things!
Paice was fantastic but Bonzo was better
Tremendos aportes a la música rock de todos lo tiempos. Ritchie Blackmore guitarrista de Deep Purple y Rainbow. Aunque mi opinión es que con Deep Purple tubo su mejor época de creatividad en conjunto a otro grande como Jon Lord en los teclados de Deep Purple. John Bonham, al día de hoy, considerado el mejor baterista de rock de la historia, junto a Led Zeppelin, tubo momentos de inalcanzable nivel en la batería quedando dentro de la historia como el mejor con las baquetas.
Eso compa tu sabes en verdad Bonham fue el mas popular bateria pero para mi los mejores drummers fueron los progresivos como Neil Peart Bill Bruford Phil Collins ect Bonham aunque fue bien rockero pero no tenia el technico jazz como ellos pero en verdad Bonham fue uno de mi favoritos tambien porque el amaba Ringo Starr y queria ser como el segun Joe Walsh Richie Blackmore fue mi favorito guitarista con rainbow y el epico RJ Dio que voz epico especialmente Rainbow Rising incluyendo Cozy Powell
Amazing insights to an era i love. Great work man
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Back in the 70's. All of the great stories about all of my favorite bands were all told through the grapevine and occasionally i would find books and find out about the crazy exploits of my favorite bands. And I have numerous books and videos about these bands and their legendary exploits. But I am continually amazed on You Tube the constant new information and stories from the past. The stuff those bands did back then and got away with would have probably put them behind bars nowadays.
Was fortunate enough to see the Perfect Stranger Tour in 1984 & at least saw Plant/Page 3X, The Firm, & Solo Plant 8X
Absolutely awesome content...
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Great info. And pics. Well done.
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Fantastic as always ! Thank You :) We want moore ! :D
Great pleasure to hear this, much appreciated! Thank you
Lots of great info, very cool and subscribed!
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Thank you much!!! IV 4ever!!!
You are very welcome Pavel, thank you too!!!
Another great story. So good.
Big thanks!!!
These are great stories! Much of this I never knew and I usually know these types of stories... Very fascinating.
Thank you so much Jason, such a great pleausre to hear this!
I know a lot about rock history but even I learn from Kars stories.
Very cool stories!
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Big thanks!!!
Thanks for another informative and entertaining video
Many thanks Charlie, great pleasure!
I loved this - yes - great photos and anecdotes-
I am a guitar player; bassist and singer and I credit starting music to Led Zeppelin. I bought Led Zeppelin 2 in 1979 when I was eight years old after hearing an older teenage pot head neighbour playing ‘Heartbreaker’ on his Telecaster ( incidentally my first good electric was a Tele ( Esquire actually - Fender Japanese reissue 1985 ) -
My point : John Bonham
He is my number 1 musical influence of all time and I don’t even play drums.
Why?
His imagination; creativity; uncanny sense of time and feel; and his playing SWINGS like no one else.
John Bonham is at the top of my musical lineage pyramid because of the sheer musicality of his work.
Zeppelin, Purple, Elf, Trapeze, Rainbow, TLizzy...Give me a break....So many legendary bands stories in one video!!!
The Gemini Suite, in fact, was performed live by Deep Purple Mk2 and the Orchestra of the Light Music Society in 1970 and released on LP the same year. Later it was released on CD, first in Europe and later in Japan. I have the Japanese CD.
Unlike the Concerto for Group and Orchestra, it sounds more like album Deep Purple In Rock, i.e. dirty and distorted sound. Ritchie Blackmore sounds wild, amazing and unmatched on this record.
Several years ago, I think it was 2018, I was lucky enough the get Ritchie Blackmore's autograph on the sleeve for this CD after the "Rainbow" concert in Moscow. It was great, both the concert and the autograph.
I think Gates of Babylon was the best answer of Ritchie Blackmore to Zeppelin's Kashmir. Beautifully mystical and misterious, these two great songs.
This was AWESOME. Thank you for these stories! /subbed.
Bonhams rage and inner turmoil was part of what made his playing so infernal. At the same time,.....he is that guy that shows up and makes everyone uncomfortable due to everybody knowing he will fight at the drop of a hat. Lol
wasn't at the drop of a hat. the guy was surrounded with narcissistic buttholes, and he gave them what they asked for. don't approve his type of solution, but props for him not taking their bullcrap.
@@LfunkeyAI agree. It's so sad that he drank that hard because he hated being away from his family.
On the 1977 US Tour journalists were issued with a set of rules on how/what/when etc - One of the rules was 'Do not look directly at John Bonham: this is for your own protection'
Peter Grant introduced himself to Bob Dylan at an LA party in 1975 thus -
"Hi Bob. I'm Peter Grant and I manage Led Zeppelin"
Dylan [ as Groucho ] replied "Look man, I don't come to you with my problems"
Kenneth Anger said "talking to Jimmy Page was like tapping on inch thick plate glass".
"Led Zeppelin? Dangerous assholes" - Cynthia Emerson [ one of the Plastercasters ]. Great band though
Lmbo. The book I'm reading about Bonzo, says differently.
As an old regional drummer, I think Paice is the all around best drummer along with Barlow, (yes, J. Tull's 2nd one) and Baker, but let's not forget the amazing Bill Ward from my favorite band. And Blackmore was at or extremely near the top for guitarists.
Great video!
Big thanks Andrew!!!
John Bonham did not play in Wings before Led Zeppelin.
He played in McCartney’s Wings on the Rockestra tracks on Back to the Egg in 1979.
Bonham also played with Wings on Beware My Love's demo in 1976
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wings did some heavy stuff ? or was Bonham heavily restrained ?
@@TimLondonGuitarist Not all Zeppelin is heavy, just like not all McCartney is light.
Rockestra was McCartney trying to create a live Rock orchestra, with multiple musicians on each instrument.
There was a tv special that aired in the late 70s on this, and an example can be found here. th-cam.com/video/qn3KUEMhOB0/w-d-xo.html
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@@scottroland1272 I said he did not play with McCartney before Bonham became a member of Led Zeppelin.
Since Wings was formed 3-4 years after Led Zeppelin's first album was released, this video corresponds with that timeline.
My favorite story of Bonham was when they were in Japan if I remember correctly. They were on a train, with a female reporter Page was trying to impress. Bonham got hold of her pocket book somehow and took a shit in it, and put it back wherever she had left it. From what I remember, Page was a little upset, lol.
Ritchie is a living legend 🤔🎸…Man on the Silver mountain is What made me a Dio fan 🙌🏻… wow 🤯
Great Stories. Subbed.
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Saw Deep Purple in 1972 Machine Head tour. ELF was touring with them at that time. Makes me wonder if Ritchie and Dio talked to each other back in 1972 while they were touring together?
I think that's been the accepted theory and I believe I've heard interviews from either Dio or Blackmore where they said as much.
It's been well documented over the years that that was where the seeds were planted for Rainbow. They both had a fondness for medieval music and history.
... ya think 🤔
According to Jerry Bloom in the book "In the Shadow of the Wizard 1975-76 " there is a recording of "MAN ON THE SILVER MOUNTAIN" with John Bonham on drums. Apparently, Bonham was at the rehearsal.
My 2 favorite bands as a kid.
Led Zeppelin
Deep Purple
Excellent video
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Elf opened for Deep Purple on a USA tour in the early seventies; that's how Blackmore came to know Ronnie Dio. In fact, Blackmore and Dio went into the studio in 1973 when Ritchie and Gillan's feud was at its highest and Blackmore wanted to leave Deep Purple. Dio and Blackmore recorded one song, "Black Sheep Of The Family" which ended-up on Rainbow's first album in 1975. Blackmore decided to stay with Deep Purple when Gillan left and Ritchie's "solo" project was put on hold.
The dissing of the Rainbow drummer is bollocks, Bonham loved the drumming on the first Rainbow album and in particular an accidental drum fill on MotSM. Cozy was one of many drummers auditioned for Rainbow, the last one, and Ritchie invited him over because of his Jeff Beck connection.
I heard that Ritchie didn't audition any drummers at all. When Cozy came, Ritchie gave him the job right away.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 ok so Bobby Berge is a liar because he definitely auditioned and the various writings/interviews from people like Jimmy Bain indicate a number of people tried and failed until Cozy outdid Ritchie's request for a shuffle and was picked.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 According to Cozy Powell print interviews he has said he did indeed have to audition for Rainbow. He didn't bring his drum kit w/him, & had to use the kit of the previous drummer that had auditioned just ahead of him. He said he thinks it was all theatre of Blackmore's doing to set the tone for their future relationship as his band mate & employee. That's what I have read. There may even be a few videos of several musicians telling the tale as told to them by Cozy. I think Bobby Rondinelli may be one of them.
@@Dibbdroid That is the correct story. Yes Cozy got the job. This guy doesn't know his stuff. In Rock was the First Hard Album by Deep Purple. Fireball was the second.
@@kurtsherrick2066 I ignored the In Rock error, it was too bad. Some of us were around when these albums came out, hoovering up the interviews, watching the tours and the fan forums around have a lot more truth than this channel. This is the guy who claims ACDC blew Rainbow of stage during the Rising tour.... reaches for Deutschland Tournee....
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Cool story excellent The way you say it
Many thanks Damon!
I don’t believe even half of this shit. I do know they were buddy’s because I heard Blackmore say it in an interview. Entertaining banter non the less. I also highly doubt Bonham dissed Ian Paice.
i agree.
Funny T-shirt of John 😁
enjoyed this - ty !
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Awesome Stories \m/
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In about 78 I was working in a department store in Manchester UK, and the phone rang and a gruff voice said, its Sutch, is Johnny around, John being one of my work mates who managed bands, so I put Johnny on.
Enjoyable, thanks.
The Irish pronunciation of Phil Lynott's name, as shown in interviews with people who knew him, is LIN-et
I was at the Station pub in Birmingham watching Spitfire the local Friday night band & often depending on what big band was playing in Brum muso's like Robert Plant, Steve Gibbons, some of the Purple guys, Roy Wood etc would get up & jam with the band. The room was packed & some pissed up chubby dude in front of me with a very loud sports jacket on kept swaying left & right nearly bumping into to me. I said to my mate "I'm going knock this prick out if he bumps into me again" at that moment the band on stage said over the mic that John Bonham (one of my hero's) was going to get up & jam with the band! you guessed it, it was the pissed up guy in the loud sports jacket & proceeded to destroy the poor drummers kit but played a great drum solo. So glad I didn't whack him.
Great story, thanks for sharing!
You may have needed up similar to Bill Graham's (concert promoter) security person, brutally beaten, by Bonham, Cole, Bindon, and Grant. They were all charged with assault.
Another fact about Bonham was he played drums on the session for Donovan’s Hurdy Gurdy Man with Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones
How could that have worked when Jimmy didn't meet Bonham until July of '68, and that song was released in April of '68? Bonham wasn't a studio musician
Clem Cattini drums John Bonham percussion on the song Hurdy Gurdy Man.
@@richardhincemon Did you not read my comment, or can you not read?
Correct me if I'm wrong.... but did thin Lizzy do an album under the name " funky junction
Plays a tribute to deep purple" ??.
I'm sure i heard that when i was a teenager.... im 58 now !!
Yes they did, we did a video about that
@@karsguitarchannel6088 cheers for that 👍i was offered that album by a neighbour around 45yrs ago. I should have grabbed it.
Yes and it's a horrible album
Big Fan of Rainbow and Deep Purple Mark III & IV !!!
Bonham did not play with Wings before Zeppelin. That to my knowledge was two one off things - a studio jam on Beware My Love and the 1979 Hammersmith Concert - the benefit one where he played on the Rockestra thing. Maybe he did a studio version of that theme song as well.
Wings didn't even exist until well after Led Zeppelin began making records
Thank you for the interesting info from a few good musicians.
You are very welcome Carol, much appreciated!
… ‘and Wings’? (0:36) before Zep? In which universe? With which time machine?
Please sorry about this, I messed up a bit with that
I just wanted to say that Bonham participated in other projects outside Led Zeppelin.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 No apologies required. I was being unnecessarily pedantic. Still, at least it proved that I paid attention … and, even admit to liking Wings, lol!
P.S. Also interesting; Perfect Strangers is about my favorite song, and always thought it had a Zeppelin influence, as said here.
Wish the MIGHTY Thin Lizzy would of played. Just the mention of Rainbow and Lizzy opening the show WOW.
Rainbow started work on perfect strangers in 1980. only a partial demo was produced. Thin Lizzy released an album of DP covers under Funky Junction.
Bonzo was gr8 on McCartney, Beware my love.
I got lost about 4 minutes in - and I lived through this era and know these names! o_O
Good job with these videos man...
Big thanks, much appreciated!
Yes actually Bonham said, "Play Love on the Silver Mountain"
2:06 .... I read a slightly different version where John took Jason to a Police show and backstage the elder stepped on Sting's shoes and Sting said "hey man don't step on my blue suede shoes" to which Bonham replied "I'll step on your head in a minute.."
That’s funny!
. great video.
Many thanks!
Wow man, I get it, Jimmy Page "lifting" a really small bit from Hey Joe and made Whole Lotta Love from it. It's such a minor riff, not even a riff and it's easy to identify in Hey Joe. I wonder if Hendrix reacted to this. I saw in an old interview on youtube where Page kind of reluctantly mentioned Hendrix' name when asked who he thought was the best guitarist of all time, but upon further thought I think Page could have been more humble about it and his thoughts on Hendrix. Hendrix was head and shoulders better than anyone else but egos get in the way of others stating flat out who was the best. Thanks for video dude, very interesting 👍
Many thanks Bruce for checking out, much appreciated!
I think Ritchie was just winding Bonham up. Whole Lotta Love has nothing to do with Hey Joe. Maybe Immigrant Song. Anyway Whole Lotta Love sounds unique, nothing like Hey Joe.
@Bruce: Hendrix wasn't the best guitarist of his era.
Page hated wrst album of lzm it was a RIP off blues for him.
@@MGB18 you're nuts.
Cozy is so good.
To me, Bonham was the Pacific or Atlantic Ocean. The other great drummers that I respect, were creeks, rivers, or tributaries that flowed into the Bonham ocean 🌊 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
If Bonham was the Atlantic, Buddy Rich was the Pacific!
That’s a great comment. While Rich was undoubtably technically better, Bonham sounded better, rocked harder and was more instantly identifiable but like all things, this is a matter of opinion…
Youre wrong about Fireball being DPs first non orchestra album.
In Rock was that album.
Sorry but we are actually talking about Jon Lord's Gemini Suite album (Lord's 2nd album with orchestra after 'Concerto') which he wanted to record with Deep Purple after 'In Rock' but Ritchie Blackmore didn't like 'Gemini Suite' and they recorded Fireball instead.
Do one one on Coven and Jinx Dawson.
I could EASILY picture Bonham, in a drunken rage, peeling Blackmore's hair off his head. Ronnie James Dio was one of my ALL TIME...favorite Singers...and Cozy was a GREAT drummer.
I got the Bonham bio book BEAST a few days ago and that book tells the truth and it is not very complimentary regarding his character, Bonham was a great drummer but also a bully and that's not cool
It's a bit more complicated. Alcohol turned him into the beast while he was said to be very kind when he was sober.
Thanks for this upload. Two of my rock heroes, for sure, pains in the ass or not.
Cool story, bro.
Many thanks!!! Rock on
Wow, wasn't even aware of Little Miss Lover. Whole Lotta Love surely does sound like it.
Gotta check out Trapeze...Dave Holland on drums 🥁 huh. Good line up
Great story. Where do you find all this info 😊
Thank you very much, great pleasure! From different sources like interviews, books. Ritchie Blackmore and John Bonham were very friendly.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 must have been a strange time. You have Blackmore and Bonham who were good friends and then you have John Paul Jones saying he doesn’t like Blackmore and basically saying he really wasn’t a big session guy in the early days.
In Rock was the first Deep Purple Album after Deep Purple and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. Fireball was the second. In Rock is the Hard Rock Album that changed everything. Child In Time. Depending on the Copy Eddie Van Halen's Eruption was influenced by Ritchie's Intro into Speed King. My copy doesn't have that intro or Black Night. Mine is a American Release. But that is for sure what influenced Eruption.
We talk about 'Gemini Suite' here not 'the Concerto'. Fireball came out after Gemini Suite. Yes sure In Rock was Purple's first hard rock album, nobody argues that
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I was thinking about what was actually recorded at the time. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Happy New Year. Rock On.
@@kurtsherrick2066 That's ok Kurt, thanks! Rock on!
Sir, before "Fireball" there was "Deep Purple In Rock". THIS was the 1st hard rock album by Purple.
Sir.. Learn to read.
and the best hard rock album ever
Amazeing, sounds as though you were right there..🫠