Otto I: The German King Who Ended The Magyar Invasions Of Western Europe

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  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 5 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Otto is probably the most important figure in European history nobody ever talks about.

    • @Daniel-jm7ts
      @Daniel-jm7ts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      he is only importiant for germany and the countries bordering them but not for all of europe

    • @Yora21
      @Yora21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@Daniel-jm7ts So like 80% of Europe?

    • @Daniel-jm7ts
      @Daniel-jm7ts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Yora21 no, only france, poland and hungary and germany. Skandinavia, Britian, Iberia and the Balkans also exist

    • @Desmigalhation
      @Desmigalhation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Daniel-jm7ts dude if it’s important for central Europe of course its important to all Europe...the same with other personalities or happenings in other parts of Europe...whats the thing?

    • @positroll7870
      @positroll7870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Daniel-jm7ts You forgot to mention Italy, the north of which was ruled by Otto and his successors for quite a while. The Emperors of the Hohenstauffen dynasty even were Kings of Sicily, ie Southern italy.
      Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia, later all ruled by Habsburgs who happened to be HREmperors.
      More importantly, in medieval and early modern times, all history is connected to the HRE Emperors, one way or other.
      Ever heard of the 3rd crusade? Led by Emperor Barbarossa - with King Richard "Lionheart" and the French King BOTH officially submitting under his command. Until he drowned in a stupid river, releasing them from their oaths (which in turn caused Richard some trouble returning, needing ransom money to get out of prison, leading to the whole Robin Hood story) ...
      That crusade had a big impact on the balkans, given that the main German army marched down the Danube, and the brother of the Hungarian king joined in. As had Ottos later successors when fighting and stopping the Ottomans.
      Teutonic knights (in general, not just the order as such) were a major force in the Iberian Reconcista and christianized / conquered most of the Baltics.
      The Fugger became rich as the bankers of the Habsburg Emperors - and then also financed much of the Spanish and Portuguese ventures into the new world when Charles V was both Emperor of the HRE and King of Spain and Portugal. Like Magellans first trip aroung the world. And provided the copper the Portuguese trading empire in Africa and Asia was based on.
      None of this would have happened without Otto I.

  • @JamesAce
    @JamesAce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    nobody:
    automatic youtube translation: the magyars were "Offended greek-speaking people" from the ural mountains region

    • @ronjayrose9706
      @ronjayrose9706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Must be third wave feminist lmao

    • @kafon6368
      @kafon6368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@men8212 Otto I and the entire European history pre Marx is right-wing =D

    • @kafon6368
      @kafon6368 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@men8212 Literal millennia old institutions are still in existence today and sway billions of people in our modern era but OK, sure, black and white difference of history. Keep being pseudo-intellectual.

    • @kafon6368
      @kafon6368 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@men8212 I am responsible for the direction of the comment chain. There's no need because I already know.

    • @CelticAngloPress2nd
      @CelticAngloPress2nd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "Western Asia" the most retarded fucking thing I've ever heard lmao.
      The Urals is the border between European Russian and Eurasian Russia, Its not that hard. Hungarians are whiter then Sweden (literally compared to today, Sweden's finished).
      archive.org/details/HitlersWar-WhatTheHistoriansNeglectToMentiontestVersion
      archive.org/details/NationalSocialismExplainedErnstZundel

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Both the Vikings and the Magyars or Hungarians were to start with two of the most destructive enemies of western Christian civilisation and when they were eventually converted they turned out to be two of its strongest defenders.

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      History is strange.

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      We were the only one nomadic steppe people who adopted European culture

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sectorgovernor What about the Huns? They must be some descendant. You mean turkic people who adopted European culture.

    • @adamthetired9319
      @adamthetired9319 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The Hungarians are Magyars in language only, their genetic makeup, though, is typically Central-Eastern European, Germano-Celtic and Slavic admixtures. The Magyars, as it has been many times in history, were just a minority, who magyarized (don't know how to spell it) the locals. Like the Turkic people who turkified the local Anatolians, but are just a minority among the Turks nowadays.

    • @user-gy5er6wh2j
      @user-gy5er6wh2j 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@adamthetired9319 Recent genetic findings show that Modern Hungarian genetics are 40% - 60% Magyar or a variant of markers found in Central Asia Germano-Celtic and slavic Groupes are only 10% - 30% and that varies from different regions. The Magyar predominant genes were R1a and R1b from matched to the Tarim Basin and Mongolia and the Siberian genes were N1c, Q1a, C3, which only made up 20% to 30% in total and some groups of Magyars had J and other middle eastern markers as well. The Magyars were not Asians from the Urals who came and ruled over a dominant Slavic Germanic population, but had a major impact and made up about 1/3 of the total population of Pannonia. The other 2/3ds were multiple groups such as slavs, germans, Seklers (Szekely) but were Predominantly Avar.

  • @CinemaRojo
    @CinemaRojo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Ok, being crowned in Charlemagne's stone throne is pretty epic!

    • @KalonOrdona2
      @KalonOrdona2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      like something out of a fantasy novel

  • @larrywave
    @larrywave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Otto I had relation to charlemane from his fathers mother 🤔

    • @Siegbert85
      @Siegbert85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, I recall that as well.

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      larrywave this is true but he was of a different house, Charlemagne being an old frank, Otto being a Saxon. His father Henry was the first king of Germany, he was given the east frankish kingdom by the king as he died, however it became Germany at that point because the saxons were now in control. This also separated forever the legacies of Germany and France/West Francia. So although they were technically related, Otto brought a much more German element to his empire. Remember the Saxons were among the last people converted to Christianity by Charlemagne’s Frankish-Roman Empire, now 150 years later a Saxon himself won a new German-Roman Empire. Quite a development. Otto’s state would continue in numerous configurations for a thousand years

    • @USCKyle8
      @USCKyle8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wow this is true
      Charlemagne ->
      Louis the Pious ->
      Gisela Martel ->
      Ingeltrude ->
      Hedwiga of Babenburg ->
      Henry the Fowler ->
      Otto I

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheLocalLt You are so wrong on so many points that i wouldn't even know where to start...

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@abeedhal6519 what points, maybe you should start? From what I’ve read, Otto being a Saxon was a very important development in the history of Germany

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That's the video I was searching on TH-cam so much, thank you! God bless your wonderful work 😎

  • @multivitamin425
    @multivitamin425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm not a historian, but are two guys named Otto responsible for creating Germany?

    • @rick149ou
      @rick149ou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In part, yes. Henry the Fowler, his son Otto I. and his son Otto II. of House Liudolfinger.

    • @BeWe1510
      @BeWe1510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Rokuro
      I think he meant Otto von Bismarck

    • @rick149ou
      @rick149ou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BeWe1510 Yes, that should've come to mind ...

    • @rayzas4885
      @rayzas4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ottos father Henry can be credited more imo

    • @Andrij-v6k
      @Andrij-v6k ปีที่แล้ว

      No, they didn't create Germany. Just two very important and succesful leaders of Germany.

  • @adriansz343
    @adriansz343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Great video as always my man! Minor comment, as a Catholic, I’ve always heard it pronounced “Dio-sees.” Keep up the good work!

    • @backalleycqc4790
      @backalleycqc4790 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep,
      hypothesis - hypotheses
      crisis - crises
      pronounced exactly like: theory - theories

    • @KalonOrdona2
      @KalonOrdona2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@backalleycqc4790 wait so not "Die-oh-seas" but "Dee-oh-seas"?

    • @thethirdsicily4802
      @thethirdsicily4802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KalonOrdona2 Oh no it is Die-oh-seas, that's just how they spelled it.

  • @davidyoung2111
    @davidyoung2111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love your channel. You bring up people and things in history that I've never heard of. I hold no degrees just a commoner who has studied history for about 16 years. A few I have heard of. Obviously like Otto 1 I have heard of etc. Keep up the good work.

    • @AKumar528
      @AKumar528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Otto himself was a converted Christian Central Asian King

  • @achmedaan
    @achmedaan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The intonation in all your sentences is the same

  • @historicaladventurevideos
    @historicaladventurevideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the best History channels. Excellent work!

  • @wojtekkolo3003
    @wojtekkolo3003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video sir, keep up the good work!

  • @martialme84
    @martialme84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video.
    Thanks for making it.

  • @Alcoholmixture
    @Alcoholmixture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Otto the First and Otto von Bismarck (the latter was born near the grave of the former in Magdeburg) were quite similar in the fact that they were imposing people of extraordinary ability, respected and feared but not really loved (except by a few; luckily, their over-the-top harshness was complemented by the presence of people who were either more pleasant, or more PR-savvy), although in private life, both seemed to be devoted towards their women (Both also had mother problems - one of Otto's first acts as emperor was banishing his mother Matilda of Ringelheim who favoured his younger brother Heinrich over him, and Bismarck hated his "cold and unloving" mother as a child. The women they met later - Eadgyth and Adelheid in the case of Otto, and Marie von Thadden and Johanna in the case of Bismarck - seemed to to give them the "anchor" that they needed).
    Friedrich Barbarossa, for example, probably suffered more defeats/setbacks than Otto, but was a man both respected and loved, and thus is better remembered today (also because his Swabia, as well as Southern Germany in general, is a rich and strong region today, while the Saxon area does not fare as well - although this is improving)

    • @nifrain9494
      @nifrain9494 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is the former saxon region not doing well? Don't confuse saxony with the modern state saxony. The saxon heartland was what today is part of NRW and lower saxony and the northern coastlands. It is only that the saxon family name shifted eastwards to areas formerly slavic

    • @Alcoholmixture
      @Alcoholmixture ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nifrain9494 Magdeburg, Quedlinburg and Halberstadt are in Saxony Anhalt. Gandersheim is in Lower Saxony. The commemoration of the Ottonians concentrates there. That was what I was thinking when I wrote that. Certainly, by the standard of many countries, people living there are not starving ("does not fare as well" is not "does not fare well". And one may count Hamburg as "Saxon land" too...

  • @redtom3022
    @redtom3022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man now i understood why kings killed their relatives

  • @user-ui3em2ev1j
    @user-ui3em2ev1j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Christoph Hahn saves Ottos life in the battle at Lechfeld in 955, Otto made Christoph Hahn a Knight for his deed

  • @neetwave6005
    @neetwave6005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Can you make a biography on Afonso de Albuquerque? Would be really interesting. Great video btw!

  • @abuseddoorhandle93
    @abuseddoorhandle93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant believe I didnt get the notification always love your videos man keep it up!

  • @ergunyildizoglu8018
    @ergunyildizoglu8018 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Greek speaking people ? ! ! Huns ? They are turkic speaking people from central asia.Attila was hun. Where did you get that info " huns were greek origin " ?

  • @synkkamaan1331
    @synkkamaan1331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The maps in this video are beautiful

  • @sectorgovernor
    @sectorgovernor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Western Europeans always speak about the defeats, why do you never make a video about the Battle of Pressburg(907)?

    • @woff1959
      @woff1959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly! See my points above!

    • @alterKammerad
      @alterKammerad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Canadian Villain lol

    • @frosthammer2386
      @frosthammer2386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Arról nem is beszélve, hogy az úgynevezett ,,Kalandozások korában" két vesztes csatánk volt, és több tíz olyan, amiben győztünk.

    • @70sztom
      @70sztom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Attol félnek a mai napig 😄

    • @sonofskeletor33
      @sonofskeletor33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/VHUSCs4Nacg/w-d-xo.html

  • @Eškala_Iśa
    @Eškala_Iśa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He forgives his brother Henry twice.

  • @marcus8767-q6l
    @marcus8767-q6l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you make a video about Charles XII of Sweden, please? As a Swedish native and fellow history enthusiast, it would be incredible!

    • @danielolsson7134
      @danielolsson7134 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mackansmack: Har du kollat på Herman Linkvists dokumentär om Karl XII som finns på youtube?

    • @nillynush4899
      @nillynush4899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't Napoleon fail to learn the lessons of Charles XII? I.e. fighting against father Winter.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're back!

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting. i learned a lot of new things today

  • @jameskelman9856
    @jameskelman9856 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done ! Thanks !

  • @invictus7736
    @invictus7736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You talk about the Magyar forces like they were destroyed, when in fact they suffered less casualties than Otto, the forces assaulting the baggage train escaped mostly unscathed aswell. They were forced to retreat and were later defeated decisively, but they definitely weren't destroyed at Augsburg.

    • @rUckAmIng
      @rUckAmIng 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      source?

    • @invictus7736
      @invictus7736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rUckAmIng Most sources have reached a consensus that the magyars suffered most of their casualties while on the way back to Pannonia/Hungary. The only source that implies all the magyars were destroyed is a german monk from Augsburg, "surprisingly". It'd also make sense for the german forces to launch an offensive into Hungary rather than eternally defending if they would've infact utterly annihilated the magyar forces and took no significant casualties, which did not happen.

    • @attila3231
      @attila3231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@invictus7736 In foreign territory, 20% of the province's military could participate. The western turf was defended by Bulcsu and ther Lehel. The Hungarian army may have been Ausburgnál around 12-16 thousand .

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C'mon stop spreading lies. They were absolutely destroyed in the final battle and that's that. Their leaders were killed and the few that survived fled into the area nowadays known as hungary.

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Augsburgnàl nem a teljes magyar haderő vonult fel!! Mint a Nyugat a Pressburg csatànàl. Attól hogy csatàt nyertetek, nem omlott össze Magyarorszàg. A lechfeldi mèszàrlàs miatt hatalmas bosszút àlltunk.

  • @ay243y4
    @ay243y4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know the DNA ancestry can be a bit BS, but do others get highlights in theirs like they might be the lineage of some great person in history? The one my Aunt put in said they her side (which is also mine) said that the lineage of our family directly corelates with Otto the first.

  • @SkrimOnYouTube
    @SkrimOnYouTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Magyar pronounced “mudyar”?

    • @unkas231
      @unkas231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He pronounced it quite well. Only the "gy" part is off a bit but it's not bad.

    • @jozseflaszlo7445
      @jozseflaszlo7445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is. @Skrim

    • @misirosso7536
      @misirosso7536 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maghiar is :-Mag-(Core,grain) one of the 12 base clan of HUN's! Hunor-Magor !!!Magyar(Magiar,Maghiar,Magyar)

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@misirosso7536 You are ridiculous less educated craftsman (PROLETARIAN)

  • @jacky9590
    @jacky9590 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It is a debunked misconception that the Pechenegs forced the Magyars to move. One that became a thing in the communist era. And the Magyar raiders did not sought slaves...taking people as slaves and selling them wasn't even a thing for them. You have to be careful with contemporary or wanna be contemporary western European sources because those contain a lot of untrue bullshit regarding the Magyars. And regarding the battle of Merseburg. It was fought between the forces of Henrik the first and a Hungarian division(!). The battle was lost but the Hungarian division did not lose many lives as they retreated from it in time. This was a small battle that was more of a psychological victory for the Germans as the Hungarian forces were back in 937 leading successful campaigns into Germany and France

    • @gabor-zsoltbenedek9420
      @gabor-zsoltbenedek9420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      According to the 10th-century Persian explorer and geographer Ibn Rustah, the Magyars did actually sell slaves to the Byzantine Empire in exchange for silk, ornaments and other goods.

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are from the less educated working class people (carftsman), known as proletarians, who did not have university degree, neither have a grammar school matriculation exam. With a great chance, you are not real Hungarian, but you are from the weird foreign turkic identity neo-cuman from Kunság Cumania region. You belive in conspiracy theories and pseudo history like turanism, and you visit the kurultáj events in Bugac Kunság.-

    • @anuszbizsergetokommentek2171
      @anuszbizsergetokommentek2171 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gabor-zsoltbenedek9420based

  • @andrewmonos4951
    @andrewmonos4951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    quite a few opinions and interpretations in here that have been stated as if they are hard facts.
    Because the Magyars where a confederation of nomadic tribes they never had what we would call a homeland. Rather they had an area of control that had been moving south and west for centuries.
    The Magyar campaigns in 954 and 955 where at the invitation of or encouragement from several German princes. It was not nation on nation warfare. Only 3 or 4 of the Magyar tribes took part and Otto did not have the German nation behind him.
    Otto spent most of his reign fighting his own people. Perhaps the epithet "the suppressor" would be more accurate.
    Calling the Elbe river the historic border between Slav and German people probably caused a few people to unsubscribe. Projecting the modern idea of borders back to a time like this is misleading.
    This description of the battle is mostly fiction (BazBattles has a much better video). We don't know the numbers involved. We do know that the Magyars rarely fielded more than 10,000 men and, using the list of German princes, Otto had 7,000-9,000. The idea that the Magyars didn't have time to launch a 2nd volley of arrows is just stupid.
    The key to Otto's victory was having well disciplined troops. The Magyars relied on being able to fight and retreat at will. In this battle they where forced to fight and couldn't retreat.
    It might be easier to tell history as a series of events but it could never cover the beautiful, intricate complexity of what really happened.
    History is more like continuous threads that both mix and diverge.

    • @gordonkerry9320
      @gordonkerry9320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you

    • @woff1959
      @woff1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gordonkerry9320 Correction. The Magyars were a monarchy, not a tribal confederation. Read Byzantine Emperor Leo VI Tactica. He states it openly.

    • @Rabauke84
      @Rabauke84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are some mistakes in your comment.
      It is uncertain if the Magyars were invited or not. They had send some "diplomats" before to look at the situation in south germany. The war torn part of the country would have been an easy target for plundering, like the Magyars did prior in other regions of europe. So we don't know for sure, if they came as aid for the south german leaders or for raiding the easy peasy lemon squeezy part of germany.
      Otto had to put down any opposers and threads to his throne from the inside and outside of his claim, like any king or duke of his time. The Holy Roman Empire didn't just include Germany, but also Burgundy, Bohemia and Italy. And in all of these regions, wars for power were a common thing. For example, he claimed the italian crown by marrying the italian queen. Which was seen as a thread by his son of a prior wife, because she could give birth to a new heir -> so war it is! Calling him a "suppressor" because he had fought his own people is just exaggerating.
      And the numbers, we know for sure that Otto had 8 legions by a report of Widukind of Corvey,
      who also wrote down, that one bohemian Legion equals 1,000 men. He also explained that the people of Augsburg prepared for another siege, when thousands of magyars were riding to the city, after the battle took place. When they saw that they just were riding by, they realised that they were fleeing from the battle. So, we know on one hand that the battle was a decisive victory for Otto and on the other, that the amount of magyars fleeing was still great enough to be feared. According to the people of Augsburg, it were like 20,000 fleeing riders. But I think this is way too much. So while this number can't be validated, I don't think that they had like 10,000 men. This amount of men wouldn't be enough, especially after a decisive loss and heavy casualties, that could still be seen as a threat, so it must be more.

    • @andrewmonos4951
      @andrewmonos4951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rabauke84 Thankyou for your comment. I don't usually read or reply to comments on youtube as most are just trolls but you are actually adding something that is worth thinking about

    • @andrewmonos4951
      @andrewmonos4951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rabauke84 You're right, I shouldn't have used the word invited, a more accurate word would be encouraged. Magyars took the disunity in German lands as an opportunity for raiding.
      Epithets are always an exaggeration. Summing up a persons life in 1 word or a statement is never accurate. The epitaph "suppressor" is fitting because he spent most of his reign suppressing 1 rebellion after another. "peace maker" could be a positive epithet that says the same thing.
      As for numbers; we know the numbers reported in 1st hand accounts where little more than propaganda. We also know that in the middle ages fielding an army of 10k was only possible in ideal conditions. Nomadic people could mobilise more than that in a migratory confederation. The raid that led to this battle only involved the western tribes of the Magyar confederation.
      With the Magyars advantage in mobility they had no reason to engage an numerically superior enemy, so we know that they had more than Otto's 7 to 9k. Suggesting a Magyar force much more than 10k requires proof that this was an exception to what we know of medieval warfare and Magyars history. A Magyar force of 5k was enough to successfully campaign through northern Italy so the people of Augsburg could be justified in fearing much less than 10k

  • @chrisdjernaes9658
    @chrisdjernaes9658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for filling in the historical timeline re the Magyars ...

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      See: Magyarsàgkutató Intèzet channel

  • @medievalgaming8754
    @medievalgaming8754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good!

  • @christianfreedom-seeker2025
    @christianfreedom-seeker2025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knew about Otto the First. Not many people know this but the pagan German rulers were also the ones who converted to Roman Christianity. Shrewed but survivors!

    • @martinlopez2816
      @martinlopez2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were more badass when they were pagan, that sucks!

  • @blehkelekwet9642
    @blehkelekwet9642 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Otton! Otton! Otton amour ♪ a changé ma vie ♫

  • @hithere1435
    @hithere1435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ayy nice video

  • @pawebielinski4903
    @pawebielinski4903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In fact, Mieszko I was not subdued. The tribute was paid for the Baltic island of Rugia/Rugen.

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Infact poles will make up random things about their subdued ancestors so they don't feel so bad.

  • @prometheustod
    @prometheustod ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Magyar, it was terrible to hear the mispronunciation of the name of my nation, otherwise very cool video! 👌

  • @chrisgriffin7357
    @chrisgriffin7357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Monarchy is a crap-shoot; you either can have an amazing King like Otto I, or a horrid king. I'd take that system over media-controlled democracy any day.

    • @P._Nisbroch
      @P._Nisbroch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      in a Republic , too. Good Presidents like Weizäcker in FRG or bad Presidents like Idi Amin in Uganda.
      Long live anarchy :D

  • @recepahmetkartal6813
    @recepahmetkartal6813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is different between ottoman and otto one?

    • @aryankhan3619
      @aryankhan3619 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ottoman was a eurofied name of usman

  • @mom1349
    @mom1349 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's actually 1 of my relatives And I have a famous basketball player in my family

  • @damianb8322
    @damianb8322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    10:52 Mieszko paid tribute only from unknown and disputed territories (Pomerania? Stodorania? land of Lubusz?)
    as saxon chronicler Thietmar of Merseburg wrote Mieszko was “loyal to the emperor and paid him a tribute all the way to the river Warta”
    Some curiosity: Annales Fuldenses named Mieszko as Marchio of Nordmark !
    And to be precise: Mieszko paid tribute to Otton I not as a "german king" but as an Emperor, successor of Charlemagne.
    A significant difference.

    • @christianfreedom-seeker2025
      @christianfreedom-seeker2025 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well there is a dispute amongst historians over whether Charlemange the Frank was the founder of the HRE or Otto was the founder. Back in those times, the "Empire" was a patchwork of tribal dynasties that had not yet found any legit claim to the land they occupied. Much of Germany at the time of Otto was simply mud huts surrounding halls walled with earthworks.

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christianfreedom-seeker2025 People build proper hall houses and farmsteats in German lands since thousands of years. They were not living in mud huts.

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah well, it wasn't really disputed. That is the whole point of mizko paying up like the lil bish he was. if he didn't the Ottonians may have attempted to take the land.

    • @Andrij-v6k
      @Andrij-v6k ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christianfreedom-seeker2025 LMAO. Neither was the Empire at the time a patchwork of tribal dynasties nor were the houses in Germany at the time mudhuts... smh. Already during ancient Germanic times they had built woodhouses in skeleton design and there had been roman-influenced and roman-controlled cities with roman architecture and stone structues all over the place. There also are Roman descriptions of Germanic fortresses on mountains/hills. In fact I can't even find any information about Germanic mudhuts whatsoever. By the 800s Germany already had huge churches, cathedrals and palaces for kings and coronation purposes and this already since centuries. The huge cathedral of Trier for example was finished in 340. Why do you even type comments when you have no idea about the topic at hands?

    • @Andrij-v6k
      @Andrij-v6k ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abeedhal6519 Why do you call him a 'lil bish' ? I don't think that's ok.

  • @gwynedd8179
    @gwynedd8179 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How many times have Ukraine been invaded?

  • @woff1959
    @woff1959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am sorry to say this is *the* worst video I have seen on the Magyars in the 10th C. I am Hungarian and have been studying this period for some 40 years. Let's look at the most egregious errors: 00:12 'Spent centuries moving West.' Wrong. Archaeological research shows they spent one generation moving to Etelköz, then on to the Carpathian Basin. 00:35. "Pecheneg attack" made them move. This whole source (Byzantine Emperor Constantive Porphyrogenitus) is very questionable. There seems to have been some raid, but nothing serious. 00:42 The Magyars "launched devastating raids". What? Just like that? They occupied Hungary in alliance with the Holy Roman Emperor Arnulf of Carinthia. They defeated Berengar of Ivrea in 899, using, note, in alliance with Arnulf! They had 5000 men against Berengar's 15,000. When Arnulf died in 899 and the Hungarian envoys sent to continue the peace were arrested, THAT caused the war. There were border fights with the Bavarians (Austria hadn't been invented yet) and so in 907, the Germans decided to re-occupy Pannonia, Western Hungary. At Pressburg in 907, all the leaders of Bavaria were killed in an open battle which lasted three days. I note you carefully avoid mentioning that. Why? This was followed by punitive military campaigns (not raids!) In 908, the Magyars brought the Thüringians to battle at Eisanach, on August 3, 908, in which the Duke of Thüringia was killed. In 909, they destroyed Fresing but suffered a minor reverse at the hands of Arnulf the Bad, who had re-built part of the Bavarian army. He later allied himself with the Magyars. In 910, Louis the Child raised the entire East Frankish feudal levy in order to invade Hungary. The Magyars destroyed his army at the Lechfeld (same place) on June 12. All the Magyar attacks were done with careful planning and diplomatic preparation. They always attacked whoever was weaker, so they could not repeat Charlemagne's genocidal campaign against the Avars in the early 9th C. Another error: 2:14, the Battle of Merseburg in 933. This was no "decisive defeat" as the above mentioned Magyar victories were. One part of the Magyar army suffered a reverse, and withdrew in good order. The rest of the army was fine. Why did you not mention all of the above to give your viewers a more balanced view? Lechfeld 955 was indeed a big defeat of the Magyars, but it did not prevent further wars or attacks from Hungary, as you claim. In 961, the Pope asked for Magyar protection. As to the "huge Magyar army", the only datum we have on their numbers are mentioned above about the Italian Campaign from Regino, the Abott of Prüm. But I have a question for you and your followers: If Otto's victory was so complete, and you showed yourself he was an ambitious king, why did he not invade Hungary, conquer it and have the glory of converting the Magyars (many of whom had converted to Christianity long before, but not all)? Well, I'm interested in your answer.

    • @HistoryUncovered
      @HistoryUncovered  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      1. From the ~5th Century they moved from the Urals to modern day Ukraine in the 9th Century. That's centuries, not a generation. Are you misunderstanding what I stated?
      2. Numerous sources mention the Pechenegs forcing the Magyars further west.
      3. You are denying the Magyars launched "devastating raids" on Western Europe? That is pretty common knowledge and historical fact.

    • @woff1959
      @woff1959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1. I am relying on the most recent historical and archaeological sources published by the Hungarian Academy of Sciences. They state that new information proves the move was no more than 40-60 years. We do not have any material showing where the Magyars were in the 5th C. I would suggest you keep up with existing research. 2. "Numerous sources" are Constantine, who I mentioned, and one source in the West. That's far from 'numerous.' This has been very problematic and the majority of Hungarian scholars has dropped this as a reason. Constantine claimed that the Pechenegs had killed all the Hungarian women, but the graveyards show a full population, not lacking women at all. So that, among other things, has brought his works into question. Again, you are about 100 years behind the research. 3. I am saying these were not -- emphatically NOT 'raids'. They were military campaigns. Clearly, when the HRE invaded Moravia, or Hungary or anywhere else, that was 'devastating'. But the Magyar Campaigns were not more devastating than the murderous campaigns of say, Charlemagne. I would suggest get yourself updated information and re-do the video, correctly this time. It isn't fair to your viewers to 'teach' them material that has long been rejected by scholars.

    • @HistoryUncovered
      @HistoryUncovered  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I get my information straight out of published books on Medieval and Military history. You seem to only mention Hungarian sources for you information. If you want to talk about biases I think you might fall under the same category.

    • @woff1959
      @woff1959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HistoryUncovered When was the Byzantine Emperor a 'Hungarian source'? I read the German literature, the Hungarian material as well as English-language literature.I also follow the Russian/Ukrainian material in translation. There have been a lot of discoveries there. Also, recent genetic discoveries are very interesting (available in English). With a few exceptions, the English-language material is generally very far behind. I am sure you do get your material from published books, that's the trouble. Rather go for scholarly articles. As for looking at Hungarian material, you must realise that the Hungarian academics are afraid of being seen as 'nationalists', so if anything, they minimise the achievements of the Magyars. If they have a bias, it's more against themselves. That IS weird, but that's how it is. But then again, if I was to study the American Civil War, wouldn't I look at American authors?

    • @sectorgovernor
      @sectorgovernor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only hungarian sources are reliable about hungarian history and origin. Not your fake theories.

  • @militaryorchid7937
    @militaryorchid7937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are still minor things to put in the right place in early medieval European history... Even Hungarian historians considered these topics with a shrug of the shoulder because of political reasons. No one knows who lived in the Carpathian basin before, no one knows, which route the Hungarians took to arrive there (today's archeological findings in Ukraine and Moldavia are quite promising) and no one knows whose language they speak. Clues there are that they speak the language they have already found there. Btw, the mentioned campaign was just a private enterprise of some military chiefs, Otto did not even think of attacking Hungary after that even for a minute. A decade later Hungarians besieged Byzantium so that could not be that devastating at all. Just the private enterprises for the sack have seemingly stopped.

    • @tamaszlav
      @tamaszlav 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are literally 0 clues that the Magyar spoke the language of the people who were in the basin before them, and all the clues, that they spoke the langues their descendants speak today. The earliest Hungarian settlement name appeared in the basin where no 8-9th century archaeological remains were found, that is rich in 10th century Magyar remains, which is strong evidence that they spoke Hungarian. That, and the fact they came from the Ural mountains, where Hungarian language originates.

    • @militaryorchid7937
      @militaryorchid7937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tamaszlav From the mountains... The clues regarding the language are the number of the populations. No one kmows for sure who was the lender and the borrower.

    • @tamaszlav
      @tamaszlav ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@militaryorchid7937 Yes, they do. Magyars speak a Uralic language, their closest related language is the Mansi. The Magyars came from the Ural mountains, their closest neighbirs were the Mansi (and some Indo-Iranians from the South, and Turks from the East). Their closest genetic relations are with the Mansis. So according to you, a population, who comes from the Ural mountains close to Uralic people, are closely related to Uralic populations (whom are also their closest linguistical relatives), might not have spoken an Uralic language, they just found it here (somehow), and that language coincidentally is the closest to the language the Mansi, whom the Magyars are closest genetic relatives. Riiiiiiiiiiiight. You alter nationalists are so cute with yourbig ideas in small brains.

    • @rayzas4885
      @rayzas4885 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The "private venture" of military chiefs included the most important Hungarian leaders. An army of 10,000 horse archers was killed off. The Hungarians never again raided west after 90 years of doing it. Lechfeld very much was an absolute disaster for the Hungarians.

    • @militaryorchid7937
      @militaryorchid7937 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rayzas4885 No. They stopped with the undertakes towards the west but they still continued ransoming Byzantine till 970. "The most important Hungarian leaders" part is utterly false. The most important Hungarian leaders never left Hungary for a campaign. The reverse is also true: it was only in 1030 when a western army dared to attack Hungary, only to suffer a catastrophic defeat (again).

  • @benziescha5438
    @benziescha5438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't he an apprentice of Athlestan?

    • @johnnythemachine6949
      @johnnythemachine6949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The King of England? He was his brother-in-law. Otto's first wife Edith was his sister

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fascinating figure it sounds like. Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊

    • @finnishboo4192
      @finnishboo4192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      God is fake but yeah

    • @Numba003
      @Numba003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finnishboo4192 What makes you think so?

    • @finnishboo4192
      @finnishboo4192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Numba003 well he wouldnt allow such evil like the world wars

    • @Numba003
      @Numba003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finnishboo4192 Is that not blaming God for the mistakes people make though? For people to have free will and not just be mindless automatons, they have to have the ability to choose. It wouldn’t mean much if I programmed my computer to tell me it loved me every day and it did so. But, if I had a child who decided to love me after I loved it, then that love has meaning. So too I think it is with people and God. He loves us, shows us that He does, and then teaches us what is good. Why then should we not love Him? Why should God be blamed when people choose to reject goodness? Unless of course you say there should not be freedom of will. In which case, you’re arguing that your own consciousness should not exist.

    • @finnishboo4192
      @finnishboo4192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Numba003 how does god love us what has he done for us? Lmao the jews god really helped them and lived them eh?

  • @Klopp2543
    @Klopp2543 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    invading and conquering 2 superpowers is no taking advantage. it's more like a human tsunami on land!

  • @vazeg4008
    @vazeg4008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the fourth video i watched in line and the Magyars numbers growing every time from 35.000 to 50.000 while Ottos army decreased from 20.000 to 7.000...
    Whats next? 85.000 vs 2.000...?

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      triggered magyar descendant detected lol

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness ปีที่แล้ว

      50000 fő magyar sereg túl szèp. Nem reàlis.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when did the Holy Roman empire really begun?

  • @uuuueber
    @uuuueber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this who the Ottobahn is named after ?

  • @aliengalaxy6096
    @aliengalaxy6096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When Arpad came back to the Carpatian Basin (chronicles said: "secundus ingressus" "home coming") So the chronicles did not said any "conquest", so this word used only from Habsurg era. So when Arpad came back with 1 million people (womans, childrens, animals etc) and they very fast settled here. In the cemeteries they found equal male/female corpses. So if many enemy nation would live here that time, the conquest would have not been so fast. Probably Arpad found a lot of Hungarian groups in the Carpatian Basin when he arrived. (From Huns/Avars) And also after this conquest the Hungarians was able to move every part of Europe.
    Also they talking about “raids”. Actually the other nations always hired the Hungarian army to help them for fight each other. The Hungarian warrior was the best at that time, was really developed: meat powder (so they could eat anytime so they could reach Iberian Peninsula as well), strong horses, saddle, reins, underpants, saber (protect the fingers), light good quality fish scales armor (possible to swimming with horse in armor), good tactics, super fast and high ranged composite bow! Check videos “Kassai rapid archer”
    th-cam.com/video/Bs0poHibsSg/w-d-xo.html
    th-cam.com/video/2yorHswhzrU/w-d-xo.html
    And check the Syctian archers...
    www.google.com/search?q=scythian+archer&client=opera&hs=Ths&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwijyIutoeHpAhVbhlwKHZxZAWAQ_AUoAXoECAsQAw&biw=1920&bih=970
    Also in the cemeteries the archaeologist found Christian cross on the neck of the old Hungarian skeletons. Because they used the traditional way of Christianity not the western style. The Germans always wanted destroy them because they had afraid that Attila the Hun is back.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Pressburg
    In the battle of Pressburg (907) was a decisive Hungarian victory against the united western forces (after this the Hungarian border extended near to Salzburg near to today Germany)
    pages.uoregon.edu/klio/maps/med/a910eu.gif
    (after this the German army attacked again Hungary only at 1030 and got a same loss)
    The Hungarian made a wide border system around his territory (some kind of no man land) and used a preemptive war. And also when the Hungarian attacked monasteries around Europe because they want only get back the stolen Scythians/Avar treasures. Maybe the holy crown as well. The historian talk always 2 losing battles (Merseburg 933, Augsburg 955 (was betrayal)) however the Hungarian has this time more than 50+ winning battles.
    fdocuments.in/document/mystery-of-tatarlaka-klara-friedrich.html
    The Hungarian language is very old and very logic, I can find a connection with almost every language, because the language is very old. As you said Europe was always inhabited in the past and If you see the maps you can see the Carpatian basin was in the area of the Syctians. And the Etruscan peoples lived in Europe in the old times, the Roman culture based on this. There are some theory to the connection of the Hungarian language, you can read. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_language
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Hungarian_script
    www.runiform.lingfil.uu.se/wiki/Avar_bone_plates
    www.quora.com/Is-it-likely-that-the-Etruscan-script-evolved-from-the-Vinca-script
    paleosemiotics.blogspot.com/2011/02/etruscanmagyar.html
    www.stormfront.org/forum/t430217/
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szarvas_inscription
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tărtăria_tablets
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_of_Nagyszentmiklós
    www.runiform.lingfil.uu.se/wiki/Avar_bone_plates
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_culture

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      God this is on polish levels when it comes to historical revisionism. Way to gobuddy...

    • @K.Pershing
      @K.Pershing ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​​​@@abeedhal6519 bullshit I haven't seen no pole claim that when the poles sieged moscow
      they were invited in. Hungayrians are the worst offenders of this shit along with they're altaic brothers the turks

  • @Ashoerchen
    @Ashoerchen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concise and informative video. You need a better speaker though. The way he gives each and every sentences exactly the same pitch simply wears you out.

  • @joe_moneyspreadolozzi
    @joe_moneyspreadolozzi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is he a German king though? He spoke Italian

    • @stilicho8762
      @stilicho8762 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro he was a saxon. And "italien" wasnt even a language then.

  • @MCorpReview
    @MCorpReview 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alert my guess is rt! Now I
    Ike ur video ! 👍😁

  • @wu1ming9shi
    @wu1ming9shi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I get some "EMPRAAAH OF MAAANNNN" vibes?...

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please check out Micahistory 2, it would mean a lot!

  • @tyforman1821
    @tyforman1821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i heard you

  • @mvegetaxachilles7211
    @mvegetaxachilles7211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos on Germany. Would be cool to see some FACTUAL pieces on WW2. One that comes to mind specifically is the siege of cherkassy. General Leon Degrelle’s account of this battle retold in the TH-cam video “surrounded at cherkassy” is a masterpiece of a video that I’m sure you’d at least find intriguing. Keep up the great content!

  • @luigianchondo7241
    @luigianchondo7241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does Otto said: fuck all the rice and chopsticks
    Rice and chopsticks: East Asians

  • @Szentatyaisten
    @Szentatyaisten 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We learned how to defend that day.

  • @ronevergrow8319
    @ronevergrow8319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at the Berber Moors not all of them had big broad noses and big lips with nappy hair,
    Some of them even had blonde hair.........

    • @vieiradosreismariadelurdes9105
      @vieiradosreismariadelurdes9105 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...but...were they the so called " OTTO mans"? 🧐 = The OTTOMAN Empire? 🤔
      "Berbers= Forigners=" Aliens "( military)

  • @va3vad
    @va3vad 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Magyarok a nagy vilagban.
    Itt lehet feliratkozni.
    groups.io/g/magyar

  • @garychynne1377
    @garychynne1377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    atta boy otto. immigration by sword. occupation by hord.

  • @hungarienness
    @hungarienness 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Nyugat fosztogatásáról és a magyarok pusztításáról(genocide) nem akar filmet csinálni?

  • @lajkatajka
    @lajkatajka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so inaccurate in so many level that it is not funny.
    50 000 Hungarian army, more like 5 000 strong raiding party.
    But to make the victory more significant than what it was the Germans had to exaggerate the size of the Hungarian army.
    The whole Hungarian army was no more the 50 000 strong. Out of that at any given time not more than 10% would go on a campaign.
    Usually this involve the tribes close to the western borders. Tribes form Transylvania would never go campaigning in Germany, their target were Byzantium and Russ.
    The rest of the troops were guarding the Hungarian borders. Make sense right?
    If a 50 000 strong Hungarian army would attack Germany that would not have been called a campaign that would be called an occupation force.
    Like when the German tried to attack Hungary at Pressburg in 907ad. were 3 German armies - some 60 000 strong - were annihilated in a single day by some 20 0000 Hungarian horseman.
    Here is the link of the battle:
    th-cam.com/video/VHUSCs4Nacg/w-d-xo.html

  • @blablableh724
    @blablableh724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Magyar are/were simply Hungarians.

  • @faustopina6639
    @faustopina6639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Die Deutsche sagen er war ein guter sachsener König.

  • @benziescha5438
    @benziescha5438 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A student of Athlestan

  • @scottanderson8167
    @scottanderson8167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He probably did it by encouraging migration, diversity and multiculturalism

    • @Domispitaletti
      @Domispitaletti 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Grow up you weirdo. Maybe mixing with foreign blood, would prevent the existence of ugly specimens like you..

  • @MAKDavid-1
    @MAKDavid-1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This a huge nonsense for MagYar where and are GaL who’ hasn’t invaded the land but defended the land against Roman and they allies intrusion in to GaL tribal land which spread from PortuGaL all the way to BenGaL and MonGolia.
    The very name MagYar Sead of Yarl directly related and still called as MakAr,MacAr which relates to MaKArSka a city on Adrien that was established 4000 years ago and to make it even worse it is who are called Ak or UnGAR,UnGER,VenGri,Wangri …for so called German are not GERMan but a Roman related group.

  • @NoName-yw1pt
    @NoName-yw1pt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any sad Hungarians here?

  • @MD-xm6ub
    @MD-xm6ub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The old Magyars were a Turkic people. They did assimilate many Europeans and, so, they became Europeans!

    • @nuperaa6617
      @nuperaa6617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were Uralic people, it's true that they had Turkic affiliations

    • @MD-xm6ub
      @MD-xm6ub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nuperaa6617 x Bravo! Correct!

    • @bencepandi3568
      @bencepandi3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most of us has Scythian DNA ancestry

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We Hungarians are natives of Europe/Carpathian Basin but we have Asian relatives.

  • @Hunfootball
    @Hunfootball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just missing some little facts that the German-united European, Frank forces wanted to destroy the Hungarians, and Hungarians defeated them in 907 near Pressburg...If Hungarians just wanted to steal, they wouldn't have reached Spain, they'd have attacked just some northern or closer territories.

    • @boldoghazi27
      @boldoghazi27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      victors write history....it wasnt about steeling, thats what western style is :) we were called most of time... also 50 000 hungarian? hmmm, we never had that many troops idiot!!! specially back than... this video is very unnacurate,, but who really cares about the truth..

    • @swunt10
      @swunt10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullshit. You are a brainless hungarian peasant.

  • @martonjuhasz1544
    @martonjuhasz1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "forcing" is a bit a strong word. the carpathian basin was where the capital of attila was located, and the hungarian nobility claimed descendance from attila himself. the latest genetic studies support this claim. chances are they wanted to conquer attila's lost empire are high. the pechenegs attacked the hungarian camps when their armies were on a campaign to the west, therefore the camps were left with insufficient guards to resist the full might of the pechenegs. so under the pressure they moved their camps west over the mountains to close the gap between the offensive armies and the rear guard, and events turned out in a way so they rather stood in the basin than to go all the way back to etelköz.

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hungarians have nothing to do with Huns. Not even the ethnonym of Hungary related to Huns. If you try to search real Asiatic mongoloid genetic admixture, search it among Eastern Slavs and Northern Germanic people. Stop your pseudo-historic turanist propaganda from the weird foreign looking neo-Cuman minority region of Kunság.

    • @martonjuhasz1544
      @martonjuhasz1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriswanger284
      www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-53105-5
      journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0205920
      you're welcome :)

    • @martonjuhasz1544
      @martonjuhasz1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      here is some more
      indo-european.eu/2020/08/xiongnu-ancestry-connects-huns-avars-to-scytho-siberians/

    • @martonjuhasz1544
      @martonjuhasz1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      and look, some more even :D and many more will come, so feel free to write scientific papers disputing these results
      www.nature.com/articles/s41431-020-0683-z

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is jlaughable, neither of your papers speak about any relationship between modern Hungarian population and Huns. Huns were yellow people, mongoloid in all sources, and they had mongoloid haplogroup Q, which is the rarest haplogroup in modern Hungary.

  • @vondobrogi8196
    @vondobrogi8196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2597/5000
    Hungarians are not related to Finns. We love Finns, there is nothing wrong with that, but we are not blood relatives.
    Anthropology, culture, and language are also different.
    There are about 150 words in which similarity can be shown.
    The Finno-Ugric kinship was taught by the linguists of the Habsburg family to destroy the keeping of the Hungarian nationality.
    About 250 years ago.
    There are 1500 words in Turkish which are supposed to be the same.
    Although we don't understand Turkish either.
    The Hungarians are descendants of Skyta. The Skyta people are the oldest people in the world with a history of thousands of years. Although this is only lied to for 200-300 years ....
    Sumerian writings can also be deciphered with the help of the Hungarian language.
    There are studies that include Egyptian hiresogriphs as well.
    Why is that?
    Because Hungarian has preserved most of the native language spoken on earth. We also understand the Hungarian speech spoken up to 1000 years ago by our ancestors.
    This can be said in English, French, etc. languages?
    For centuries, the struggle for dominance over the Carpathian Basin was stifled by the struggle between the West and the indigenous Skyta peoples.
    The Hungarians invaded the Carpathian Basin in 895. In 907, the united army of the West attacked the areas inhabited by the Hungarians, with the aim of exterminating the Hungarians in full. Battle of Pőzsony (Pressburg).
    th-cam.com/video/xnBFV5MgSS4/w-d-xo.html
    Yet the Hungarian army won against a huge force.
    One of the goals of the subsequent Western campaigns was to secure the Hungarian territories against the Western invasion. Usually in alliance with one of the western rulers.
    As far as I know, the battle of the Lech field was lost because the quarrels with each other secretly reconciled and enslaved the Hungarian army.
    About 5,000 people laid down their guns. Leaders and soldiers were hanged after laying down their arms. (this was not a custom at the time, especially for leaders)
    Another Hungarian army was stationed nearby to take bloody revenge for the executions, but this is not very often mentioned by Western historians. Glory to Otto I! :-))
    Of course, I do not guarantee this, because historians are lying back together. In any case, after the lost Lech field battle, Hungary was not attacked from the west or for 70 years.
    Unfortunately, Christianity did not bring any luck to the Hungarian nationality. Our culture has been almost destroyed, our traditions have been almost destroyed, our true history hidden.
    1000 years of repression.
    Hungarians still live in Hungary as second-class citizens.
    Our real relatives are the Uyghurs, the Japanese, the Koreans, and the countless peoples living on the steppes in the east, who greatly appreciate the Hungarians.

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are from the less educated working class people (carftsman), known as proletarians, who did not have university degree, neither have a grammar school matriculation exam. With a great chance, you are not real Hungarian, but you are from the weird foreign turkic identity neo-cuman from Kunság Cumania region. You belive in conspiracy theories and pseudo history like turanism, and you visit the kurultáj events in Bugac Kunság.

    • @vondobrogi8196
      @vondobrogi8196 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriswanger284 Funny!

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vondobrogi8196 modern neo-Kunok nem magyarok a szorosabb etnikai értelemben, hanem csak politikailag magyarok. Tradicionális materiális kultúrájuk pedig a balkáni és kelet-európai népekére emlékeztet, és nemcsak hogy nem hasonló, hanem durván eltérő a tipikusan közép-európai magyar népesség materiális kultúrájától. Csak a magyar nyelv megtanulása velük az egyetlen kapocs kulturális értelemben, ami valljuk be még elég gyenge önmagában tekintve. Nagyon kevés kun élte túl a Nagy Török háborúk korát, szinte teljesen kiirtották őket 1686-1690 közötti korszakban. A neo-kunok többsége az oszmán hódítás korszakában bevándorolt román szerb bosnyák menekült, azaz balkáni migráns, később pedig szlovákok is érkeztek nagy arányban. Nyelvük elmagyarosodott idővel ami a magyar közvetítő nyelv fontosságára utal.
      A sokfelől érkezett jövevények, balkáni és szlovák migránsok utódai összefogtak, hogy visszaszerezzék a terület számára a hajdani un. "Kun" jogokat, mert a területet az uralkodó eladta a Német lovagrendnek. Tehát az új kamu-kun öntudat kialakulását szó szerint a privilégiumok megszerzése, azaz anyagi jogi és politikai érdekek határozták meg és motiválták. (PL ha a jövevények megszerzik a hajdani kunoknak adott jogokat, akkor nincsenek földesurak, szabad lesz a saját bíró és lelkészválasztás, nincsenek a földesuraknak fizetendő adók robot, se jobbágyság, se földesúri bíráskodás felettük, tehát afféle nemesekhez sokban hasonlatos jogokat szerezhettek) A jövevények célja, a privilégiumok megszerzése megvalósult Mária Terézia Jászkun Redemptio nevű aktusával. Későbbi generációk meg - ahogy az gyakran lenni szokott - már el is hitték hogy ők kunok utódai. Erről röviden itt olvashatsz: Kunok legyünk vagy magyarok? LINK: www.nyest.hu/renhirek/kunok-legyunk-vagy-magyarok , olvasásra javaslom a török hódoltság korszakát és a Jászkun Redemptio szekciókat.
      Ami idegenszerű materiális kultúrájukat illeti ajánlom ezt az egyetemi tankönyvet a Szegedi Egyetemről, Alföld szindróma a címe, de mint a cikkből kiderül, valójában a durván eltérő jászkun gazdasági, társadalmi, kulturális fejlődés és az elég keményen eltérő civilizációs fejlődés problematikus voltát kutatja. Link: Az „Alföld szindróma” eredete tet.rkk.hu/index.php/TeT/article/view/98/196
      Kevésbé ismert (nem reklámozott) tény, hogy 1918-ban a kunsági értelmiség széles körben összefogott hogy elszakadhasson Magyarországtól. Tervükhöz a Pest Megyei Budapesten őrzött fegyverraktárakban felhalmozott nagy mennyiségű fegyvert kívánták megszerezni, a szerbek elleni lehetséges "védekezés" hamis jelszavára hivatkozva. Ez sikertelen kísérlet maradt, mivel a kormány ügynökei révén már pontos értesülések tudtában megtiltotta fegyverek szállítását és kiadását kunsági területeken, ezért a kunsági elit komolyabb lépésekre már képtelen volt jutni. A magyarok vágóhídra hajtották fiainkat az ő nagy háborújukban, hangzott el a kunsági elit gyakori érvelése… Fegyverek hiányában pedig nem lehetett rábeszélni az ott élőket a felkelésre és a harcra. Érdemes elgondolkodni azon , mi lett volna ha Budapestről befutnak a Kunságba a fegyverrel megrakott szerelvények, és szétosztják a fegyvereket a felheccelt neo-kun tömegeknek....

  • @Felishamois
    @Felishamois 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Third View was First Comment when 21K Subscribers

  • @SSLaziale
    @SSLaziale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, too bad it is a blatant lie (depending on mostly false AUT-HUN XIX century sources)
    Hungarians came to help as mercenaries paid by W EU lords, not just in this occasion, but almost every one of them between 907 and 955.
    This was the case in 955 too. While en route, german lords, adversaries to one another, came to agreement and ambushed the unpaid mercenaries together (also it was only a minor proportion of Hungarian armies)
    Otto is also famous for the biggest lie in human history according to Herbert Illig, please read about that too, maths don't lie, papers do.

    • @tamaszlav
      @tamaszlav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And idiots like you stay idiots....Illig lol.

    • @SSLaziale
      @SSLaziale 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tamaszlav te meg menjél kalandozni a mongol ka-ba

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are from the less educated working class people (carftsman), known as proletarians, who did not have university degree, neither have a grammar school matriculation exam. With a great chance, you are not real Hungarian, but you are from the weird foreign turkic identity neo-cuman from Kunság Cumania region. You belive in conspiracy theories and pseudo history like turanism, and you visit the kurultáj events in Bugac Kunság.,

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tamaszlav You are from the less educated working class people (carftsman), known as proletarians, who did not have university degree, neither have a grammar school matriculation exam. With a great chance, you are not real Hungarian, but you are from the weird foreign turkic identity neo-cuman from Kunság Cumania region. You belive in conspiracy theories and pseudo history like turanism, and you visit the kurultáj events in Bugac Kunság.,.,

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriswanger284 And what is problem with kurultaj?

  • @kristinamyslowski5193
    @kristinamyslowski5193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought rather fascinating that I found website that helped me create a family tree. Going through and adding a few relatives, portions became filled in. Otto I is listed as one of my ancestors. If this is true, it really is amazing!

  • @lorddarius9390
    @lorddarius9390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Magyars are Turk

    • @70sztom
      @70sztom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct, mainly yes,and many pechenegs cumans yazigs tribes settled in Hungary in XI-XIII c

    • @norten76
      @norten76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@70sztom
      No. Some traces, yes, but by no means can you call them turks.

    • @attila3231
      @attila3231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@70sztom The Jászok is one of the oldest Hungarian tribes, as is the Palocz k.e. By 800, they were already here.

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness ปีที่แล้ว

      Magyars are ancient European but we have Asian relatives.

  • @rockstar450
    @rockstar450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    CORRECTION: the Byzantines never acknowledged Otto as HRE, only ‘Emperor’ and not by choice

    • @rockstar450
      @rockstar450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other than that great video!

  • @sauvageaux
    @sauvageaux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @tamaszlav
    @tamaszlav ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you really say the Magyar army was over 50 thousand raiders? 😂😂😂😂😂 Is this Lord of the Rings?

  • @kingsarues1586
    @kingsarues1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if the Magyars didn’t get greedy this battle would’ve ended differently.

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's good it ended this way.

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@abeedhal6519 Was a grandiose revange. Because was grandiose reason.

  • @bastadimasta
    @bastadimasta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Constantinople never approved the German claim of Roman Empire. Don't feed people wrong information.

    • @tamino27
      @tamino27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      sure. thats why he never married Theophanu

    • @tamino27
      @tamino27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ever heard of Theophanu, his wife ?

    • @positroll7870
      @positroll7870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tamino27 That would be his sons wife. Otto I's first wife was German, the second one Adelheid of Italy ... But Otto I arranged that marriage of his son Otto II with the Bycantine court, who then formally accepted the Ottonians as Emperors of the West. Though there is some question whether they just recognized them as Caesars to their own Augustus (ie saw them as the junior dynasty).
      Fun fact , the Ottomans did similarly recognize the Habsburg in the peace treaty ending the" long Turkish war" in the early 1600s ...

  • @Player-st4hn
    @Player-st4hn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me: finally an English vid about Magyars!
    History uncovered: nope, only about Otto!
    Ps. Why tf did my Magyars play the battle so bad?!

    • @zekun4741
      @zekun4741 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They went against mostly heavy cavalry as horse archers, took heavy casualties regardless but decided to retreat in time when realising that their weapons were ineffective against heavy armour. But due to stormy weather they couldn't escape the region and were eventually caught

    • @frosthammer2386
      @frosthammer2386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zekun4741 The main reason of this defeat was probably a treason. One of the commanders of the hungarian army was Bulcsú. He was a great general, like Napoleon, but only in middle ages. I think, a strategical genius like he, can not be defeated so easily. Only then, if somebody betrays him. It could be a german allied person.
      About fighting against heavy cavarly: the heavy armor in Europe, in this period was mail in most cases. The hungarians had lamellar, and scale armor, they had also a form of heavy cavarly. The mail is ineffective against arrows, if those were shooted from a proper warbow. In this timeperiod, the bows and the arrows of the hungarians were feared in whole Europe: ,,Sagittis Hungarorum libera nos, Domine!".
      Their weapons were ineffective against heavy armor? I do not think so. We had spears, wich can break through the mail armor. We had also bows, and arrows, those were also effective, too. And we had a great weapon wich was used even in the first world war. That was the fokos. If that could not penetrate the heavy armor, I do not no wich weapon could.
      I say all of this, because I am a hungarian, too. I am magyar, or more preciously sekler. Once we were great warriors, who fought against Europe. But when the time has come, we defended Europe, with our on blood. Sadly, from some reason this is unknown for a big part of the world. (Mondom mindezt úgy, hogy magyar vagyok én is, konkrétan székely. Valaha harcosok voltunk jórészt, akik harcoltak az európai hatalmak ellen. De mikor eljött az idő, védtük Európát, a saját vérünkkel. Csak sajnos ezt valamilyen okból kifolyólag nagyon kevesen tudják.)

    • @zekun4741
      @zekun4741 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frosthammer2386 i see. i would say it's a bit over the top to compare this bulcsu to napoleon, but tell me more about this traitor allied with the germans

    • @frosthammer2386
      @frosthammer2386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zekun4741 Even if he was not like Napoleon, but defenetly was a great general, who was known in whole Europe.
      About the treason: I know this from works of Lajos Szántai. He sad, that in Gesta Hungarorum, are evidences for a treason against Bulcsú.
      I do not know exactly wich is true from tis, and wich is false. But one thing is clear. The hungarian horse army in this period was like none other in Europe. The western regions of Europe, could not fought against they effectivly for a long time.
      In the X.th century the hungarians fought in 46-47 campaings against Europe. From these, only two was ended with defeat for they.
      For this I simply can not believe that the european armies could all at once defeat the magyars, when they (hungarians), had much more succes agains the european armies.

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zekun4741 There were not real armours against arrows until the plate armor of the 14-15th century.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a great German victory before Germany became a country.

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Germania has been a thing since roman times. Try again.

  • @MD-xm6ub
    @MD-xm6ub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They became white.
    The Turkic peoples are a mixture betwen old Scythians who migrated from Eastern European steppes to Central Asia. There, they mixtured with peoples who were yellow. Yellow race. But, a yellow majority and a white minority. The Turkic peoples are metise!
    Today, most of Magyars do not recognise that! They lies.
    Over 90% of Hungarians, today, are Europeans assimilated!

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong. Asian mongoloid markers are in Slavic people Romanians and in some northern Germanic nations. Hungarians haven't. Learn population genetics.

    • @MD-xm6ub
      @MD-xm6ub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chriswanger284 What?

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mire mèltatlanok? Mit hazudnak?

    • @hungarienness
      @hungarienness ปีที่แล้ว

      Hungarians are natives of Carpathatian Basin, classic European white. But we are Asian relatives also.

  • @razvanandreiantonescurogoz4236
    @razvanandreiantonescurogoz4236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Otto rules !

  • @yllbardh
    @yllbardh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    STOP!!! Stop!!! Stop!
    00:07 if you want to make a historic video on english then use english maps god dam!!!

  • @Retarior
    @Retarior 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, Despite Germans tried hard, we Bohemians never were part of Germany and will never be :-). We were always independent. The Boleslav I. the Cruel of Bohemia (Bohemia, Moravia) have gave 1000 heavy horse to Otto. The men all died. Yet we finaly stopped those raiding bastards :-D .

    • @Retarior
      @Retarior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @BRITISH MAN COLONIZE
      What? We were ruling our selfs untill 17.th century. We were independent ;-) there are even several bullas confirming it. Sooo you are trying to point out what?

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Retarior You are wrong. Kingdom of Hungary was part of Austria only between 1849-1867. Read the article of "Austro-Hungarian compromise" in English Wikipedia.

    • @Retarior
      @Retarior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriswanger284
      Who speaks about Hungary here ;-) ? Learn more about what you are talking about. Bohemia... Study.

    • @chriswanger284
      @chriswanger284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Retarior Bohemia had no parliament. It was a vassal state of The Holy Roman Emperors in medieval era.

    • @Retarior
      @Retarior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriswanger284
      Lol apparently you know nothing about toppic you wish to press. You try hard yet you are very ignorant ;-). We had gathering of nobles since mid 13th century you fool ;-). Nobility has made it on Přemysl Otakar II. who led 2 crusades on his own, aspired on imperial crown and for quite time ruled over Austria and part of Hungary. Besides the gathering of nobles was present as election of each duke and later king sinc early dark ages, where laws were passed. Golden Bulla of Sicily 1212 confirmed by HRE states our independence, just as Friedrich I. Barbarossa acknowledged it much earlier despire his later efforts. Same happened in 1348 with Golden Bulla of Emperor Charles IV. who in his Vita Caroli, identified him self as Czech by blood from his Přemyslid mother and primarily Czech king ;-). Germies hated him for that. And we made sure that "Compactata" we forced upon pope and Catholic church assured our religious and traditional rights. Habsburks accepted it and later didnt hold on to it. We rebelled then. We were free and always will be. You can Ask Lothar III. who got his Ass kicked in North Bohemia by Sobieslav I ;-P. Your resources are poor at best as the Czech king was first amnog Kurfirzsten and independent sovereign. There were times when Czech kings were forced to officialy kneel before emperor, symbolicaly, when they lost a war, but practicaly it ment no difference :-P and famous emperors of HRE got their bottoms wrecked many times in Bohemia ;-). Swallow your ignorant anti-Czech sentiment. We are older nation than English ;-). When William the Conqueror set to Hastings, we already had centralised state and rule, with laws ;-). We have quite old laws from urban-law collection of royal cities. Your biggot ego will have to deal with it. Sorry ;-) .

  • @TR_Conqueror
    @TR_Conqueror 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magyar's are a Turkic tribe and its pronounced as Majarr not Magyar.

    • @hun44k56
      @hun44k56 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never been turkic tribe. Scythians, Huns, Avars, Magyars.

    • @MD-xm6ub
      @MD-xm6ub 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct. A Turkic people!

    • @nuperaa6617
      @nuperaa6617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's up with the Uralic language?

    • @nuperaa6617
      @nuperaa6617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hun44k56 don't put Magyars with Huns and Scythians, Huns were probably Turkic or Mongolic people, and Scythians are ancient Indo-European people. Magyars are Uralic people that adopted the nomadic lifestyle.

    • @hun44k56
      @hun44k56 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nuperaa6617 , probably as you said, probably. It's far from the fact. The fact is the dna. You've heard about it?

  • @wraithkin2662
    @wraithkin2662 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a voce enim Domini pavebit Assur virga percussus
    et erit transitus virgae fundatus quam requiescere faciet Dominus super eum in tympanis et in citharis et in bellis praecipuis expugnabit eos
    praeparata est enim ab heri Thofeth a rege praeparata profunda et dilatata nutrimenta eius ignis et ligna multa flatus Domini sicut torrens sulphuris succendens eam

    • @wraithkin2662
      @wraithkin2662 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 Corinthians 1:2-3

    • @wraithkin2662
      @wraithkin2662 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/6Cwi0pkhoSE/w-d-xo.html

  • @QNgo-g9m
    @QNgo-g9m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Magyarman

  • @kullancad643
    @kullancad643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Otto is turk. Proof is otto man empire.

  • @lajkatajka
    @lajkatajka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So let me get this strait; the German heavy cavalry has killed of most of the 50 000 lighting fats Hungarian light horse archers, right?
    That is a physical impossibility. Can you see what is the problem with this types of propaganda?

    • @swunt10
      @swunt10 ปีที่แล้ว

      1. Hungary was not invented back then
      2. the germans killed the magyar army if you believe it or not
      3. throughout history light cavalry almost always loses to heavy cavalry

    • @lajkatajka
      @lajkatajka ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swunt10 LOL, go and learn your history. Have you heard the about them Mongols? They are the one who beat half of the world with light cavalry. Heavy Cavalry did not stand the change. But who cares about the fact right?

    • @lajkatajka
      @lajkatajka ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swunt10 "Hungary was not invented back then" Of course not, maybe it was a dream when the western priests were praying like that: "Save us, Lord, from the arrows of the Hungarians!" But again who cares about the facts right?

    • @lajkatajka
      @lajkatajka ปีที่แล้ว

      @@swunt10 German armies almost lost all they manpower against the Hungarian between 907-910ad. So much so that they did not have enough man to gourd the castles.

    • @swunt10
      @swunt10 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lajkatajka I'm so sorry you are such an uneducated moron.
      1. the mongols had heavy cavalry themselves...
      2. the mongols got beaten by heavy cavalry like lancers in many battles
      3. I don't think western priest prayed in modern english place names all that much...
      In latin sources the name Ungarii started only to be used slowly in the 10th century
      4. german armies lost so much manpower that they still beat the Magyars for eternity with almost no trouble.

  • @Beepboopbopboop433
    @Beepboopbopboop433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn I’m Hungarian lol I took L

  • @lajkatajka
    @lajkatajka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lets apply some logyc to thsi inacurate story;
    If the Germans annihilated the 50 0000 strong Hungarian army then why they did not attacked Hungary to further weaken the Hungarians. This is a tactical maneuver 101.
    Germans did not know that? I do not think so.
    The answer is simple. They have won an insignificant battle and would not dear attack the intact army in Hungary itself.
    For years nobody knew why the Hungarians did not continue on with they campaign against the west, the most probable answer is that the new leadership in Hungary wanted peace and made the deal with the Germans. The deal was as follows: If Germany relinquishes the claim on Pannonia then Hungary will stop attacking German lands.
    Oh and one more thing, the German victory was sooo "great" that for the next 100 years no German army set foot on Hungarian soil.
    ...and when they did in 1051AD turned into a nightmare for the Germans at Vertes Hills.

  • @davrosdarlek7058
    @davrosdarlek7058 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magyars were offended greek people

  • @AttackTheGasStation1
    @AttackTheGasStation1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How can he be german while Germany didnt even exist ???

    • @henryc.1131
      @henryc.1131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The name for Germany comes from the name of its people, not the other way around.
      In german "Deutschland" means "land of the germans" or "german land" and the word "deutsch" was first used as "diudisko" by a gothic bishop named Wulfila, in 360 AD. Also the name for a german land/Germany "deutsches Land" was created around this time period.
      So you can call Otto I. legally german.