My Sorceress Archmage Path of Exile 2 Starter Plan/Theory
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Solid plan. 21 minutes closer to launch. Thank you
what do you mean? Fextralife is already playing! KEKW
They gonna tease 20 other insane things and you will change your mind again xD this is just the first teaser
this right here
i will do like any new PoE 1 league and make my mind, then change it 2 min before servers are up
So far Ive gone Sorc -> bloodmage -> Sorc ... with over a week to go that gives me atleast 10 more chances to change my mind i'd wager, then yolo something random on dec 6th when I get past the queue.
This is the way.
@@CaptainLance9I’ve went monk sorc monk sorc monk back to sorc and we have 8 days.
I went merc, no matter what. Too much of a cool and different class to not play first even if it's donkeyass
This sounds like bait im in for it
There’s barely any information for anything. All builds are bait
Here for the bait. Going fishing
I’m so happy I’m not a content creator and I can just log in get to level 20 make a new character, make dinner, come back, make another new character until I have one of each class at lvl 10 😂
that's actually the best idea for this league start, I might just do that and take it slow for once
you might be on to something lol
That's a nice idea. I may try that myself LOL
and waste a lot of time sure
Why tho? I dont get it.
Increase for energy shield would Not work if you take Eldritch battery , it's already approved information.
So main source would be flat mana , flat es , and mana increase and mana more.
Mana increase is very rare. Only a handful of nodes on the whole tree.
You're forgetting that increased mana is very rare. There's only a handful of nodes with that stat on the whole tree. When you take Eldritch battery, you lose all your energy shield scaling modifiers as well, due to the new conversion system. You absolutely will not hit 8k mana without some crazy gear mods.
how do you know?
i got the feeling there will be a lot of sorceresses out there in EA start at monday 9th or tuesday 10th after the server massacre will be hopefully a bit better
I think the biggest issue you're going to run into is spirit costs. Archmage is no joke. It has a massive spirit cost of 100. 2 blasphemy curses would be another 60, and any additional triggers or auras you might want also increase the burden. Sources of spirit seem to come from scepters which might not synergize well, especially if you have to dual wield. So you'd be rocking 2 minion weapons while trying to stack spell damage and mana. Maybe some of the points you need for damage, mana, or ES on the tree will end up going towards some kind of spirit efficiency or something to that effect. Guess we'll have to wait until it goes live to know for sure. Good luck with your build. No matter what the specifics end up being, archmage will obviously be a solid play style, as GGG made it as cookie cutter as possible, and even showcased builds using it.
I'm thinking of rolling Witchhunter first, simply because of the massive advantage you get for bossing. We'll go in blind against most bosses, so being able to just chunk away up to 30% of its hp while ALSO getting culling strike with one of the other ascendancy nodes allows you to skip a large part of the fight.
witchhunter is a pretty safe bet, one of the just generically good classes imo, explode looks pretty fun on it too.
Is culling strike hard to get elsewhere? Or do you have to pick that node to get to the rest?
@@niuage You need to pick it to get Decimating Blow. I think at least at launch it will be good, simply because you're able to chunk a good portion of the boss's health. If you go in blind for boss fights, getting a big amount of "free" damage should be pretty helpful imo.
The concentration stuff will be really useful too for making bosses smoother, and that's before getting a more damage multiplier from it.
Decemeting strike will be random from 5% up to 30% and culling strike will be 5% for bosses
D4 was my first serious ARPG but videos like this get me hyped for EA. I always enjoy theory crafting and all the build options make the possibilities almost endless. Stormweaver, Invoker or Blood Mage as seem really cool atm.
Going arcmage for sure. Been running that on Templar for a while. Can't wait to see how it all fits together and the skills look so cool.
"...and it's gonna be the sorceress" - you got yourself a new sub
Wouldn't Mana Remnants be good? 30 spirit and can overflow mana to double.
Can't wait for POE 2! Keep the starter builds coming!
Bloodmage also seems to work really well with an Eldritch Battery oriented Archmage build. You will end up running ES gear with Crimson Power. Which means you get both Life and Mana from scaling your ES. BM has crazy crit potential between Gore Spike and Pain Attunement. Vitality Siphon for huge sustain. Better yet is the fact that you can use the same scaling outlined here in Lance's video.
was thinking exactly the same as you. everything lance has mentioned here for sorc, but for bloodmage. gore spike looks broken op.
Would you not get destroyed by their starting node? I feel like taking that much damage when you cast would be pretty rough especially with your es covering your mana instead of your life pool.
You don't get life and mana from scaling ES. When you convert ES to mana, ES scaling no longer applies, only base ES
@@Strill_ you get life from strength, and mana from int.
Nice to see not only me thinking in this way, will start on sorc archmage too LOGIN
I had a similar plan but with a monk, invoker seems generally strong, and acolyte could be also super good depending on the rest of the nodes we dont see yet, instant mana leech seems insanely good for this archetype
Leech doesnt scale based on your Max Ressource anymore so its not that good for scaling Max, also its very likely you cant mana leech spells in poe2 as well so chayula is a purely attack based ascendancy for the leech stuff
Sorc stormweaver archmage all day! Can’t wait, login!!!
7:45 - while its possible there are level 90 bases, the reason the staff had those requirements were purely because of the skill it was granting. but fingers crossed we get level 90+ bases to grind for
Also its been confirmed that % ES wont effect EB, youll just get the flat ES as mana and then that will scale with the Mana modifiers you have.
That's exactly what i was looking for, Sorc is what i plan to start
With the changes to damage conversion, there is a decent chance that EB conversion means the %ES wont apply when turned into mana. And there is a lot less %mana on tree. Still good ehp layer, but not for archmage.
I believe this is 100% the case, otherwise its just not remotely balanced. being able to go from 5k mana to 15-20k es is crazy. Solving stun with EB also seems kindof sketch
@@CaptainLance9 afaik devs confirmed that that version of EB will not be in EA, its gonna be the same as poe1 EB instead
@@stillprophet7529 so EB is "es protects mana instead of life"? Where did they confirm this?
I believe that with EB ES is ADDED to mana, not protecting it. Sas it in some video but I have been going through those like crazy for the past fee days xD
@@lm7_giocan't find source but supposedly Snap asked devs and it's old EB
im real hyped to play a build like this with ball lightning triggering something else with cast on shock
None of the scaling seems to bring flat damage though.
Same thoughts, cant go wrong with range + elemental in poe lol
Also a simple and familiar class will make the game more digestible.
I'm planning a long small ignite that refreshes the duration of a high effect short shock build.
Bad thing is we still dont know half of the ascendancy or even most of the sorc start tree, g^3 please!
Before you even started talking about it on stream i've been wanting to do something with srs and infernalist. It just seems to make sense. Something with either cast on minion death and cast on ignite to focus on my own damage via spells, or full on ignite minions. It's gonna be so hype.
But also now after seeing more stormweaver stuff i am so curious about playing something with infinite shocks, cast on shock, all the shebang
Ever since i built a badass fireball build in Last Epoch, i have had this itch.. That needs to be satisfied in Poe 2. I think it will. :)
Beside being potentially strong, Sorceress looks hot. That makes me wanna start the league with Sorceress more!
i always go pure mage elemental build in any RPG i play, so this will surely be top priority for first playthrough.
Do you guyz think dual wield staves can be a thing with giant's blood? It doesn't seem on video that the requirements are more then the skills that are provided along with staff. just 205x2=410 int, which is looks pretty obtainable
My experience with picking build: Decided what to play -> Play completely different build when log in
I am incredibly hopeful for the Gemling legionnaire with the ability to have any gem be satisfied by any stat. Without knowing all the skills and how they can function together it will be pretty cool to use ANY skills together. I personally want to have x bow grenades for mobbing and cross over to a Giant hammer and tower shield for bossing. But my secondary character will definitely be an archmage. The damage and clear look insane (possibly overpowered)but I also want to play the game first instead of steamrolling it right off the bat.
0:54 as for chronomancer, i do think this could be an amazing minion class together with time freeze. But we'll see the rest of the ascendancy nodes
That’s a pretty dope idea. Could be a good hardcore choice. Minion army + Time stop would give a lot of security.
@@bengalbrown2834 Yeah im really tempted to try it, but since there are no ascendancy respecs i might roll it later. I planned going stormweaver almost instantly when I saw the tree since elementalist is my favorite ascendancy in poe 1 and it seems the closest to it
@ I’m still undecided myself. I really like the look of chrono and i usually play sorc/wiz classes in these games. I’ll prob start sorc and play until I’m inspired one way or the other.
My thoughts as well. Have to see what benefits of Infernalist and such would be missing out on, but freezing time while your minions go bananas, or teleporting back in time to before a boss wiped your army I think would be pretty amazing. Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
Archmage is probably going to be incredibly powerful, but no stormbind so far is tragic. I do think chronomancer could be pretty good for archmage, depending on how fast you can burn your mana pool, temporal rift could be a instant refresh of your mana, but stormweaver will be more practically in every other instance in all likelihood.
Personally, I am leaning towards sunder giants blood blood mage/legionnaire I think. Sunder guarantees a crit on enemies with armor broken status, something that has several ways to apply. Depending on how easy armor break is to apply you can potentially have a 2 button combo that always has fat crits with blood mage or potentially more triggered gems to synergize with sunder with legionnaire, the legionnaire angle would be focused on stun trigger gem supports since devastate support will apply armor break on enemies who get heavily stunned. I am waiting on more before I cook further.
There is definitely a lot of skills they probably just haven't finished or are holding off on adding till the appropriate themed class is ready like how RF is probably tied to templar reveal
The issue is getting the armour break fast, I think a better ascendancy with sunder may be pathfinder for more poison application and using corrosion support. The crit may not be as big as blood mage, but may have better dps.
this is a good cook, thanks chef!
ivory tower stonks 📈
Do we know if ailments like ignite that still have a stack limit of 1 work similar to how they do in poe 1? Specifically im talking about how you technically APPLY many ignites, but only the largest one can be effective at once. Considering using firestorm to proc cast on ignite.
Witch hunter might be a good archmage ascendancy depending on how far away the intelligence stacking damage node is from the merc start
merc start
starting location for warrior/ranger/merc I think will be very awkward to go archmage/mana/es in general but maybe doable
if EB stays the same, poe 2 conversion is end calculated. meaning, only the end result gets the increases. all ES bonuses have no effect with mana if you convert ES to mana only the base value is applied then multiplied by mana modifiers
this has been confirmed for EVA to Armour and all damage conversions
How does the Blasphemy-Despair-Decaying Hex interaction work? Also could work with Chaotic Freeze
I had a similar idea for my first character when i started seeing all the passive tree nodes
Do you think starting with a sorc and going to a minion build on lighning theme would be possible?
Would + lighning dmg or trigger on lighning dmg work on minnions(Skeletal mages)?
!!! Eldrich Battery Mana will not skale with increases to ES !!!
Conversion is changed in POE 2 they said damage that is converted will only skale with the increases to the damage type it ist converted to! I think it is reasonable to assume this will be true for all types of conversion
for Example: 100 Cold damge is converted to 75 Cold and 25 lightning with cold to lighting support meaning it will be 112,5 Cold damge and 50 lighting damage if you have 50% increased cold and 100% increased lightning. insted of the 62,5 lightning it would be in POE 1 ( not sure on the poe 1 calc tough)
This will mean Eldrich battery will give you something like 1k Mana at most.
Afaik EB is gone for now from early access. ES based characters seem to get larger hp pools at the cost of no armor/evasion + potentially large problems with stun and ailments because those are working with live thresholds. I also think you are vastly overestimating the amount of mana we can get. The most important thing about archmage/mana builds i have not heard you talking about is recovery. We barely seen any way to build large mana recovery so far. Also i think ES shields don't really exist? Maybe hybrids with low ES, but spirit shields idk. Aren't those Foci now , that give ES + caster stats but no block stuff?
Chronomancer being able to reset mana is busted on Archmage character that has the Notable that converts all ES into Mana and with Mind over Matter which makes you take 100% of damage from mana, plus CI.
I mean this ascendancy just straight up makes you immortal with this ability, except to 1 shots. But that could be fixed too, if you can just get enough mana then maybe you can withstand a hit from anything.
Are you going to release a planner during EA? This looks like a VERY gear specific class tho.
The make or break is how will Eldritch Battery work.
I still think the servers are going to be a gauntlet grade Uber for GGG to fight, let us all gather to pray they have some stability in the first hours of launch🙏🙏
Hello Mr Lance, do we have information how many sprit we gain after campaign ? Since we will start at 0 spirit now.
I will just wait before getting into the beta. I love poe1, but I have bad experiences in buying into a beta which will end up free at the end. Ofcourse you get something back in this case, but to spend $50+ for this, I am not sold just yet. Yes it cost $30 to get in, but that only gives you some points, my thought is let me at least get some skin. My choice as is my choice that I will wait it out. All videos I have seen so far haven't convinced me just yet, so the future me can make that decision :)
what do u think about chayula monk with es/mana stacking (mana/es instant leech) ? that was my first idea
Gonna play Sorceress too, but I'm leaning into going Chronomancer instead of Storm Reaver.
Edit: just realized the name of the other Ascension is actually Storm Reaver and Archmage is a passive skill.
Knowing if we can get 30 thousand ES wouldn't mean anything now anyway, because we don't know how high enemy damage scales. For all we know both HP/ES and enemy damage go up to triple the highest levels they reach in PoE1. Without that relative information about enemy damage scaling, knowing about HP/ES figures we can reach means very little.
I like the way you think!
Stormweaver seems like it will be so fun with the new trigger skills. Elemental innovation is just Unleash on steroids. With 500 energy you cast 5x1sec, 6x0.9sec, 7x0,7sec cast time spells with no damage penatly. If we get something in stormweaver for faster freezing it seems its gonna zoom thru maps.
Keep in mind you need to click elemental invocation urself compared to other triggers like cast on shock or cast on crit
@@Zylosio Yhea thats why i refered it as unleash type skill. Also unknown if it has a hidden cast time or not. But both with shock and freeze type builds it should be a powerful button to press.
i agree 10000% on the point of sceptre+shield > staff at least until giga mirror item staffs, active block rly good even if u dont\cant get aegis
i will heavily invest into MoM mana stacker as a chronomancer taking as many arcane skills as possible.
Big agree on sorceress looking best !
I like witch and sorcerer, should I create 2 characters or just play 1 character and learn both sorcerer and witch skills
My biggest doubt lies in the stuns on you and the possibility of dealing with this problem.
So far we haven't seen a proper way to avoid stuns, if I'm not mistaken. And it wouldn't be cool to be stunlocked every other pack.
I'm just saying that maybe it makes sense to think about plan B.
Archmage and mana es stuff is all good. But Lance you need to get on the CHOOONK train!
CI MoM zealots oath with ES leech means you triple leech ES btw, one of which instant. If leech is even remotely viable it will be absolutely broken on chonk
-Won't be able to do Enfeeble aura, it's a wand implicit skill rather than a gem that can go in Blasphemy.- Seems that got changed, it's on the occult gem page now lol.
And Scepters are offhand only I believe. My original plan leveling monk was to have skele scepter+shield on offset for when things were sketchy, but gameplay showed someone pick up a scepter and main hand was red while offhand was green.
The Chronomancer they showed looked to have some kind of sand armor effect on them, guessing they might have a "Sands of time" defensive skill reservation with similar strength to petrified blood/flesh and stone. Chrono definitely seems like the Trickster of the sorc class.
I, personally, do not want another POE1. With information known and speculations, ES will be nerfed quite a fair amount during EA.
i was kinda thinking either ES stacking on either monk or sorc , this sounds pretty good might play it aswell
Ngl i was deciding on doing full mana conversion, no life no es archmage ever since i see how sick spark looks
I don't think every lvl 20 skill will require lvl 90. All of Sigil of Power requirements match the requirements of the staff that is granting the skill. So it can either be the staff requirement is match the skill requirement or vice versa.
We haven’t seen any spell totem as far as I know but I wonder if people are sleeping on totems. With ancestral bond they only cost 50 spirit each and you can seemingly get hundreds with just scepters and bass spirit.
Seems like you can spam a ton of totems with basically any class or build with ancestral bond.
Spell totem won’t be in the game until Templar is added
Ancestral bond is 100 spirit. With two good scepteres you should hit 500 spirit without any increases from the tree but it's super endgame. Shockwave attack time is 3s. Second totem skill requieres mace so no additional spirit for this skill. Not much support for the totem scalling on the tree/support gems. That's why there is no hype for totems. I had the same idea but for now i need to skip totems, we need something more.
Edited: Scepters are off-hand only, so you will get a lot less spirit
have the same plan, waiting tree and ascend for final choice, but about ES "refuel" , funny thing is chronomancer "time freez"+ cdr +increase duration, and just use it like "panic buton" for go again full ES and full mana on a safe place 👀
The only problem is to find a normal Build to level up the character and get to the maps, I don't want to spend 3 days to get late game! lvling build should be fast and good at solo traget. imagen haveing low dps in lvling build and then stuck at maps cause u have no damage so u cant farm
@@Duuude9448 have no doubt about dmg scaling, just find that's meca is fun cause you can use it. very versatil , one way for couple of sec for free time dps, or for free" chance" on a fight. but for sur need something interesting in the 5 unknow nodde 👍
Is there any way to leech ES besides chaos monk? I'm thinking about going chaos Monk if leech ends up good. But I haven't seen good offensive scaling for it yet
i play lightning sorc in every game
I already decided I'm going Gemling legionnaire, but man, they made me want to go sorcerer.
13:00 Aright, we got snitch potential here for archmage oversights with duration skills, somebody keep tabs
What should my friends play? They all new to poe and haven't tried poe1 - I was thinking a summoner witch but that might be a too hard class to start with since they won't see much of other monsters attack ect.. What you guys think will be the best for brand new players? Archmage or?
literally anything they think looks cool?
Nobody actually knows anything about poe 2 builds yet, even with these dumb theorycrafting videos going around, where they don't even know how stuff is actually going to work.
Pennance brand of dissipation snapshot archmage again, let's go
Everyone seems to be playing this
Do we know how many baseline spirit we can get without using scepter?
I don't think you can do scepter and shield since scepter is an offhand weapon(you can't dual wield them either)
when watching the sceptre most recent showcase the witch is holding like an antler shield thing? definitely something that is a need to know more definite info on, worst case would be just going dps staff but I hope sceptre shield is an option
theyve said you can do scepter + sheild or scepter + 1h. just not dual wield
Okay, I stand corrected. I wonder if in POE 2 you there is a narrower set of weapon mods, so using a scepter might not give the needed affixes for an elemental spell caster
Does she have like some bonus to triggers over say the witch?
Damn it every time I see a video like this I change the class I wanna play first😂😂😂😂
Gigachads know melee sorc is the only viable option.
Sorc also seems to be the best scaler to me based off what we know right now, but then the korea interview comes and Jonathan says he thinks melee is way stronge right now?
ghost reaver does exist, and can be seen on poe2db
17:43 looks sick
If we know anything about poe devs, the firestorm skill will probably be problematic at enabling top-end min-max builds lololol.
When the game fully opens, I think I will troll myself and play a tank crossbow build that weapon swaps to a shield when spooked.
Doesn't seem like archmage adds any flat damage anymore. It also works with orb skills. Its just a 5% more dmg per 100 mana, which is still very strong, but much less skill dependent than in poe1.
POE2 HYPE! WAKE ME UP DEC 6TH
Anyone knows what's the maximum amount of spirit we have access to?
Do we know if ED works with %ES increases on the tree? If it’s like dmg conversion then it should not (instead with %mana only)
I would believe it does not work, reason -> it would be completely unbalanced if it did.
I hope someone gets the passive node tree up as soon as the game drops. Then I’ll spend my time looking through the nodes while the servers are down at launch😂
I'm just really hoping that there are a few casting speed nodes in the tree for the build that I wanna play
you didnt like any bow skills?
u need whispers of doom if you are using blasfemy ?
OUR build
such a based take at the end there
Can you apply Blasphemy to 2 curses? how?
I think you are underestimating how bad ES recharge being 4 seconds instead of 2 is going to feel. Dreamcore has mentioned he did not see ES leech or Ghost Reaver anywhere on the passive tree when he played, so all I can say is good luck. But you are definately right on how good Archmage and Int/mana stacking looks.
I definitely think I will want around 100% faster start of charge, kindof wondering if its on gear or not. Sustain is going to feel way different compared to poe 1 for life builds as well.
@@CaptainLance9 there also is a 10% chance on cast to start ES charge, might also be good with a fast casting skill.
There's one with half of Aegis Aurora's effect.
Will Warrior be able to have viable sword and shield build?
wait archmage is support so it can be used only on 1 skill, right ? is it this a huge issue here ?
With sorc, campaing bosses may be such pain in the ass. Hopefully we will get spell life leech
Can you only have one archmage support?