The padauk side panels have me salivating. Nice work. I want to get in line for a set (not necessarily padauk) when and if you get into production. You called it about the SHARC chips! That’s why I keep coming back to your channel. Glad you’ve got your utilities back. Helene totaled my Subaru (tree fall). It’s a hassle but it’s just a car. So many others in FL are really struggling/grieving. 🙏🏼
Good discussion, as a Pro Tools user and Apollo (16) for over ten years now, I can tell you that the compelling reason today for a UA Apollo with DSP is not about tracking thru plugins, but it’s all about latency during tracking. I’m a professional drummer that does many sessions for clients remotely at my home studio. I am extremely sensitive to latency and using Apollo console to record with no perceived latency is critical. I am also a Mac user, Mac Studio M2 Ultimate.
Unison preamps are the main reason I use DSP. And I'm not a purist, but my arguments for using DSP are 1) some of those unison plugins interact with the microphone, i.e. impedance, allowing one to craft a sound on the way in.. and 2) committing "to tape", despite it's disadvantages, can also save time and energy by laying down tracks where the vision and imagination of the producer becomes evident well before mixing begins. And DSP is no different, in that sense, from choosing microphones, preamps and hardware to massage the signal going to tape. And lastly, I simply enjoy the process of getting some cool sounds on the way in.. messing around with DSP can *really* be inspiring.
Barry, you forgot 1 thing that dsp doesn’t do in the UA/Apollo space, is the Unison pre’s which does something to the source, I guess with impedance matching which to me makes a difference vs going native.
Yup I have a Twin X and yeah it really changes the sound of the vocals! If you apply the same FX in post it's just not the same! These boxes are more for Artists recording than Mixing/Post production.
Hi Barry, I really like your design where the units are displayed one on one. Very visible and it surely is a great space saver. The finish is superb on all three builds. Thanks for sharing.
I do like the UA native plug-ins. Once your on an M series Mac system like I am, there is no need for a dsp interface these days in 2024! Apollo’s are good but not worth the price point they are asking. I enjoy using my Steinberg UR44C interface which has some dsp on board. I record at 96K in general but enjoy 48K as well.I use Logic 11, Luna and Cubase 13 with great sounding reverb, eq , gtr plugins. They do the trick. If I were to upgrade my converters then I would go RME. Apogee with be up there as well. I’m totally covered with excellent software like Fabfilter, UA native, Logic plugins, Valhalla , Waves, Plug-in Alliance , Ik T-Racks Steinberg , NI, Isotope, Melodyne they all get the job done😊 Thanks for your channel Barry! Love the wood work ! I’ve been selling acoustic pianos for over 10 years and music production gear, synths / keyboards for over 30 so keep your content coming! Our music production world needs content like yours.
I adopted a philosophy a few years back when I was updating my studio. That was to try to keep things modular and more or less single purpose. Like you I went RME/Ferrofish for flexibility, transparency and dependability. When it comes to interfaces that’s all I want and at $3k+ I expect them to perform decades down the road with ongoing support. I honestly don’t know if there’s another company I trust to provide this…
I've been WAITING for you to do this YT Tutorial on UA NEW APOLLO's....I and other know what your going to say, even though I still use My X8P, X6 & Twin Duo until I get the New Apple's M4 "STUDIO" to power my Projects! Happy to hear you survived the Hurricane! I'm sure when I get my NEW Mac (iMac or Studio) I will most likely STILL keep my Several Apollo's for DSP for PLUG-IN's the UA has NOT converted to "NATIVE" NO! BARRY! have UA DSP Plug-In's that have not made ot to the NATIVE side w/ UA ( still like you channel...just saying what I use every DAY! ) :) Thx Barry for making this VId ...It's ok if we sometimes disagree :). We would need to talk in person or on Cell to understand where were at TODAY with this Product :) George Amodei. I would NOT buy another UA Interface! Time to move on! ( but I may still keep my UA Interfaces ... Can't sell it for MUCH! )
Barry, Spunkafellic made a comment about why would people would want to track with a plugin printed. So to be clear, you have the option to print the plug-in or simply listen to it while you are tracking but not print it. Except for the unison slot. The unison slot is always printed by its nature. This includes many Neve and other preamps et cetera. There’s a pre-and post switch. And that is available track by track or on the whole recording. So some of the plug-ins, that I print when I record are some of the excellent unison slot amplifiers simulations that UAD has. I use a DI so I can also capture the raw signal on another track in case I want to re-amp later. I just felt that explanation was needed in case some people have gotten the wrong idea. I like your channel
I think the DSP era is over for audio processing. CPUs are plenty fast and efficient enough for those tasks. I am interested to see if there is any future for GPU based audio processing.
cpu's are fast, but still not fast enough. I can put 20 UAD plugins in my session be it compressors, eq's, effects, and have equal latency as if I had no plugins. Its like saying CPU's are fast enough so u dont need a graphics card.
@@yael_valle I am not sure many people need 20 UAD plugins on a session with low latency for mixing. And if you need more plugins than your system can handle, there are other options such as Audiogridder.
I absolutely agree. I think the Apollo interfaces should not lean on DSP so heavily. I do have my 2 cents to add. Tracking through DSP without commitment is, however, a great thing. Large track counts and happy musicians hearing themselves sound much closer to the final product makes sense. It is simply inspiring at the time of creation. That said, it is time for a single priced plugin that runs both native or DSP. It is pretty mind blowing if you reference the super low cost these chips to add to the interface.
Been using my Apollo solo and twin x since 2020(covid). I’ve invested money in to dsp plugins and I’ve learned from an educational perspective how to approach analog gear/consoles through the Apollo. I’m even up to 8 pieces of analog hardware now in my home setup. Apollo owners didn’t ask for anything crazy just better converters and I/O. I use a macM1 so the dsp is definitely beneficial but I can manage without it but after hearing the Presonus studio live gen 3. Idk, definitely appreciate the advice Barry
Great take. Your missing one thing on tracking thu uad plugins, lot of us need or like to hear processing in real time either for clarity and loudness or most used Autotune in real time as we track vocals without latency. I personally like printing a lil bit of compression and clarity direct on my recording just to get to where Im going step by step in small moves. Thats just my personal process.
Great stuff! Love the Console desk you made! Yeah…I’ve been with UAD since 2012. I am really thinking about moving to either RME, Ferrofish, or Steinberg’s ARX 4 with the Neve transformers, Cubase/Nuendo integration and Silk built into the interface. I just gotta see how this will work for my setup. I know I need a new mac. After that, I will probably know where to go next.
Thank you for sharing and explaining this Barry. This makes it really clear what I need and don’t need in my studio. Also, awesome work on the soft tube custom frames. 🫡
@8:35 - when it comes to Windows, you can opt to save money on Thunderbolt compatible systems by choosing the USB Interface wisely, because when it comes to low-latency/tracking with plugins on via USB, great drivers are everything; RME and Steinberg have the best, in my experience. I can get 8ms-10ms round trip with still a ton of plugins on with both, and I could go lower on the RME. What‘s your experience?
When looking at the specs of the new Apollo it's superior/on par with Apogee Symphony MK2 SE, Avid carbon and Antelope Orion in most cases so it should be quite an updrade from last gen in terms of convertion and sound, at least on paper
Good points on this video! One thing which is disappointing to me in a lot of the new interfaces is the lack of networking/ expandability through AVB, MADI or Dante - using instead Adat which is only 8 mono channels per fiber at 48KHz - and why AVB is less used since it has the bandwidth for 128 channels and it is native on macOS X ? MOTU has been quiet on updates for years. The live sound boxes are years ahead in channel count.
Glad you're doing ok, Barry! Totally agree that it seems as if UAD are not supporting Apollo/DSP clients any more. It's a pity because some of those new amp sim plugins would be so good if they could be Unison-enabled.
I'd buy a stand if they come in black! I don't understand why people are overlooking the zero latency tracking of DSP. I couldn't live without it. So much so that I see no reason for it to be obsolete.
In a PT Session with 100 tracks, with a Mac Ultra, 128 Gb Ram, 1 Tb SSD, it's impossible to track without latency. So, UAD lets me do that. What other options for now?
Well, you should go back and look at some of the videos I’ve done in the past where I actually show you in real time that that is not the case. I literally have over 1000 tracks recording at the same time with five plug-ins each on them. At a 32 buffer.
Barry is a bit out of touch with real sessions TBH… when you’ve got busses cooking and heavy latency plugins on the mix bus you need the Apollo or HDX or some sort of dsp engine to monitor real time..
@@fosiko123 Composers for media (movies, TV, video, library music and games), especially with virtual orchestra and/or electronic sounds, nearly always need way over 100 tracks. Just one example. And - yes - these are mostly home or mid level studios and some thousands globally.
I would agree that would be true, however, at this price range not a lot of home studios are spending that kind of dough. Regardless, these are things for people to consider when trying to make decisions.
@Barryjohns been enjoying your videos lately. I am considering updating my audio interface from the Clarett+ to the RME UFX 3, will I notice a night and day difference in my AD/DA conversion? Or will it be nominal in your opinion?
It was always a dongle. The DSP was pitiful in the UAD-1 and ate more than running the plugs natively. It makes sense why you'd need a dongle of that power in the age of piracy, but the idea that it was doing much was a stretch after around 2003
I’m it’s not, I have a lot of Purple Heart in the garage and this is “similar” but it hit Purple Heart. If you’ve worked with Purple Heart you know it stinks when milling and sanding. Padauk, yes looks orange when orking with it, but spraying poly, this is the way it comes out.
@@BarryJohnsweird, padouk has always stayed on the orange side for me but Purple Heart simply looks like that when I’m done. I’ve never seen a shade of purple like that on padouk but I’ll take your word for it.
First thing Blessings to you & your family! Honestly I think at this price range they should have updated the AD not just the DA. Sonically there being left behind by RME, Antelope etc.
Barry, I know the Mac vs PC thing is beaten to death, but knowing that you have extensive experience with both platforms id love to hear some of your perspective why you go Mac. To me: Reaper and RME setup on PC is rock freaking solid and id never go back (I think) but I would be super interested in your perspective and experience
Sorry for all the comments: one more, actually on the subject matter of the video this time, and then I’ll shut up- I think UA has realized how much work it is to port all of their plugs to Native format. A new DSP processor could prove similarly challenging in that it may require an entire rewrite…they may not be willing to do that. Perhaps the ones that are already converted to Ntive would prove easier to port on a new chip, maybe something FPGA based.
Why not have the ability to have DSP rather than not? Any advantage is an advantage. If they have both native and DSP plug ins then why not just keep it going and make both equally? I get what you’re saying but a new computer these days is $6,000 for anything that’s really gonna get the job done.
C vox and the unison preamps make a difference rather than just putting it on it has been proven. They should have at least add more dsp chips this is not enough sound ID was proven to me the worst room correction. I understand that the writing is on the wall but they should give their customers a better deal. I hope it’s that they are getting ready for something bing where I can record a band basically mixed with dsp and tweak it after.
All Im gona say is one of the homies at Sweetwater told me that everyone there basically is unimpressed with the updated converters. They said the first x series sound better and they are dated. Basically very unimpressed by them.
I really believe this! The owner of a company that provides live sound for my live gig is also a high level employee with Guitar Center & he talks to me about bad products all the time! Just because they sell it doesn't mean it's not garbage 🗑️
Weird, just looked at the specs of the new Apollo vs Apogee Symphony MK2 SE, Avid Carbon and Antelope Orion and on paper it's superior/on par in most cases so it should be a great improvement
The desktops are night and day different. I’ve heard the both. The 8 is the same as the desktops but The 16 hasn’t changed. The old ones do not sound better. Whoever said that has no experience. I just listened to them at vintage king and A/B’d. Haven’t decided if I will upgrade or not but I’m leaning toward that because they also sound better than the symphony and Orion. I wasn’t impressed with either of those
In my circle of LA based producers ... with M1 Pro or newer machines ... almost no one is using DSP anymore. Latency is a thing of 2019. M4 Max machines will end this discussion altogether imo. Gen 2 UA interfaces...waaay too little, way too late.
It can be if you know what you are doing. It can save DSP and processing and time later in the mix stage. I do it all of the time. No regrets but I also understand not everyone can commit like that
@@spunkadellic Maybe, I'm just saying looking at numbers they are superior/on par with some of the best audio interfaces on the market, waiting to see real comparaisons tho
@@G-O-N-xnumbers and specs can say one thing but the look on clients faces when their new Apollo was blown away by my 17 year old apogee when doing a side by side comparison. I could care less about any converter specs that UA could have - the symphony mk2 studio 16 just released and I want that. I know how it sounds and UA can’t touch that.
Good to hear you’re ok. Can you please stop using auto focus, or move back from the camera? Your face constantly going in and out of focus is distracting.
The channel is called “Studio Talk”. A lot of my videos are opinion based. I certainly understand if you disagree, that said brother it’s my channel and mine to go where I want with it. Not being a jerk, it am spitting facts about that.
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Glad to hear you and family are safe from those pesky hurricanes
The padauk side panels have me salivating. Nice work. I want to get in line for a set (not necessarily padauk) when and if you get into production.
You called it about the SHARC chips! That’s why I keep coming back to your channel. Glad you’ve got your utilities back. Helene totaled my Subaru (tree fall). It’s a hassle but it’s just a car. So many others in FL are really struggling/grieving. 🙏🏼
Good discussion, as a Pro Tools user and Apollo (16) for over ten years now, I can tell you that the compelling reason today for a UA Apollo with DSP is not about tracking thru plugins, but it’s all about latency during tracking. I’m a professional drummer that does many sessions for clients remotely at my home studio. I am extremely sensitive to latency and using Apollo console to record with no perceived latency is critical. I am also a Mac user, Mac Studio M2 Ultimate.
I will say in the video, I do make that very point about DSP being good for dealing with Layton seizure and tracking. A little over midway through.
Ayyyyyye Barry! I was hoping everything was ok with you and the family dealing with the storm and everything. Glad you all are good.
WOW SO HAPPY YOU'RE 🔙 !!!!! KEEP SPEAKING THE TRUTH !!!!!! WE ARE LISTENING !!!!!! 🤙🏾
Unison preamps are the main reason I use DSP. And I'm not a purist, but my arguments for using DSP are 1) some of those unison plugins interact with the microphone, i.e. impedance, allowing one to craft a sound on the way in.. and 2) committing "to tape", despite it's disadvantages, can also save time and energy by laying down tracks where the vision and imagination of the producer becomes evident well before mixing begins. And DSP is no different, in that sense, from choosing microphones, preamps and hardware to massage the signal going to tape. And lastly, I simply enjoy the process of getting some cool sounds on the way in.. messing around with DSP can *really* be inspiring.
Barry, you forgot 1 thing that dsp doesn’t do in the UA/Apollo space, is the Unison pre’s which does something to the source, I guess with impedance matching which to me makes a difference vs going native.
Yup I have a Twin X and yeah it really changes the sound of the vocals! If you apply the same FX in post it's just not the same! These boxes are more for Artists recording than Mixing/Post production.
Hi Barry, I really like your design where the units are displayed one on one. Very visible and it surely is a great space saver. The finish is superb on all three builds. Thanks for sharing.
Happy to hear everything is ok your way.
I do like the UA native plug-ins. Once your on an M series Mac system like I am, there is no need for a dsp interface these days in 2024! Apollo’s are good but not worth the price point they are asking. I enjoy using my Steinberg UR44C interface which has some dsp on board. I record at 96K in general but enjoy 48K as well.I use Logic 11, Luna and Cubase 13 with great sounding reverb, eq , gtr plugins. They do the trick. If I were to upgrade my converters then I would go RME. Apogee with be up there as well. I’m totally covered with excellent software like Fabfilter, UA native, Logic plugins, Valhalla , Waves, Plug-in Alliance , Ik T-Racks Steinberg , NI, Isotope, Melodyne they all get the job done😊 Thanks for your channel Barry! Love the wood work ! I’ve been selling acoustic pianos for over 10 years and music production gear, synths / keyboards for over 30 so keep your content coming! Our music production world needs content like yours.
I adopted a philosophy a few years back when I was updating my studio. That was to try to keep things modular and more or less single purpose. Like you I went RME/Ferrofish for flexibility, transparency and dependability. When it comes to interfaces that’s all I want and at $3k+ I expect them to perform decades down the road with ongoing support. I honestly don’t know if there’s another company I trust to provide this…
I've been WAITING for you to do this YT Tutorial on UA NEW APOLLO's....I and other know what your going to say, even though I still use My X8P, X6 & Twin Duo until I get the New Apple's M4 "STUDIO" to power my Projects! Happy to hear you survived the Hurricane!
I'm sure when I get my NEW Mac (iMac or Studio) I will most likely STILL keep my Several Apollo's for DSP for PLUG-IN's the UA has NOT converted to "NATIVE"
NO! BARRY! have UA DSP Plug-In's that have not made ot to the NATIVE side w/ UA ( still like you channel...just saying what I use every DAY! ) :) Thx Barry for making this VId ...It's ok if we sometimes disagree :). We would need to talk in person or on Cell to understand where were at TODAY with this Product :) George Amodei.
I would NOT buy another UA Interface! Time to move on! ( but I may still keep my UA Interfaces ... Can't sell it for MUCH! )
Yeah Right? I like the guy but still I need to finally poke my thoughts on this one because I LIVE IN THIS WORLD of Apollo 😜
He’s alive! Thank God 🙏🙏🙏
Barry, Spunkafellic made a comment about why would people would want to track with a plugin printed. So to be clear, you have the option to print the plug-in or simply listen to it while you are tracking but not print it. Except for the unison slot. The unison slot is always printed by its nature. This includes many Neve and other preamps et cetera. There’s a pre-and post switch. And that is available track by track or on the whole recording.
So some of the plug-ins, that I print when I record are some of the excellent unison slot amplifiers simulations that UAD has. I use a DI so I can also capture the raw signal on another track in case I want to re-amp later.
I just felt that explanation was needed in case some people have gotten the wrong idea.
I like your channel
I think the DSP era is over for audio processing. CPUs are plenty fast and efficient enough for those tasks. I am interested to see if there is any future for GPU based audio processing.
cpu's are fast, but still not fast enough. I can put 20 UAD plugins in my session be it compressors, eq's, effects, and have equal latency as if I had no plugins. Its like saying CPU's are fast enough so u dont need a graphics card.
@@yael_valle I am not sure many people need 20 UAD plugins on a session with low latency for mixing. And if you need more plugins than your system can handle, there are other options such as Audiogridder.
I absolutely agree. I think the Apollo interfaces should not lean on DSP so heavily. I do have my 2 cents to add. Tracking through DSP without commitment is, however, a great thing. Large track counts and happy musicians hearing themselves sound much closer to the final product makes sense. It is simply inspiring at the time of creation. That said, it is time for a single priced plugin that runs both native or DSP. It is pretty mind blowing if you reference the super low cost these chips to add to the interface.
Been using my Apollo solo and twin x since 2020(covid). I’ve invested money in to dsp plugins and I’ve learned from an educational perspective how to approach analog gear/consoles through the Apollo. I’m even up to 8 pieces of analog hardware now in my home setup. Apollo owners didn’t ask for anything crazy just better converters and I/O. I use a macM1 so the dsp is definitely beneficial but I can manage without it but after hearing the Presonus studio live gen 3. Idk, definitely appreciate the advice Barry
You are probably right as their very latest guitar pedals plugins - which sound awesome btw - are native only.
I have avoided Apollo interfaces as I don’t need dsp. I recently upgraded from a Focusrite clarett to an rme ufx ii and the difference is significant.
Great take. Your missing one thing on tracking thu uad plugins, lot of us need or like to hear processing in real time either for clarity and loudness or most used Autotune in real time as we track vocals without latency. I personally like printing a lil bit of compression and clarity direct on my recording just to get to where Im going step by step in small moves. Thats just my personal process.
Great stuff! Love the Console desk you made!
Yeah…I’ve been with UAD since 2012. I am really thinking about moving to either RME, Ferrofish, or Steinberg’s ARX 4 with the Neve transformers, Cubase/Nuendo integration and Silk built into the interface.
I just gotta see how this will work for my setup. I know I need a new mac. After that, I will probably know where to go next.
Thank you for sharing and explaining this Barry. This makes it really clear what I need and don’t need in my studio. Also, awesome work on the soft tube custom frames. 🫡
Awesome info and videos as always man.
What's your setup for video gear? Thanks man.
Keep rocking!
@8:35 - when it comes to Windows, you can opt to save money on Thunderbolt compatible systems by choosing the USB Interface wisely, because when it comes to low-latency/tracking with plugins on via USB, great drivers are everything; RME and Steinberg have the best, in my experience. I can get 8ms-10ms round trip with still a ton of plugins on with both, and I could go lower on the RME. What‘s your experience?
GORGEOUS paneling
So i have 8xp….worth upgrading? Great content!
Barry, whats the little jog wheel controller to the right side of the Softube controllers and what do you use it for ?
When looking at the specs of the new Apollo it's superior/on par with Apogee Symphony MK2 SE, Avid carbon and Antelope Orion in most cases so it should be quite an updrade from last gen in terms of convertion and sound, at least on paper
Good points on this video! One thing which is disappointing to me in a lot of the new interfaces is the lack of networking/ expandability through AVB, MADI or Dante - using instead Adat which is only 8 mono channels per fiber at 48KHz - and why AVB is less used since it has the bandwidth for 128 channels and it is native on macOS X ? MOTU has been quiet on updates for years. The live sound boxes are years ahead in channel count.
Glad you're doing ok, Barry! Totally agree that it seems as if UAD are not supporting Apollo/DSP clients any more. It's a pity because some of those new amp sim plugins would be so good if they could be Unison-enabled.
I'd buy a stand if they come in black!
I don't understand why people are overlooking the zero latency tracking of DSP. I couldn't live without it. So much so that I see no reason for it to be obsolete.
I still use ALL my Apollo's because of that ( DSP ...Latency FREE ) until I get the NEW M4 Mac "STUDIO"
In a PT Session with 100 tracks, with a Mac Ultra, 128 Gb Ram, 1 Tb SSD, it's impossible to track without latency. So, UAD lets me do that. What other options for now?
Well, you should go back and look at some of the videos I’ve done in the past where I actually show you in real time that that is not the case. I literally have over 1000 tracks recording at the same time with five plug-ins each on them. At a 32 buffer.
Agreed; but how many people; especially home and mid level studios really needs 100 tracks at a time !!! very very few
Barry is a bit out of touch with real sessions TBH… when you’ve got busses cooking and heavy latency plugins on the mix bus you need the Apollo or HDX or some sort of dsp engine to monitor real time..
@@fosiko123 Composers for media (movies, TV, video, library music and games), especially with virtual orchestra and/or electronic sounds, nearly always need way over 100 tracks. Just one example. And - yes - these are mostly home or mid level studios and some thousands globally.
I would agree that would be true, however, at this price range not a lot of home studios are spending that kind of dough. Regardless, these are things for people to consider when trying to make decisions.
@Barryjohns been enjoying your videos lately. I am considering updating my audio interface from the Clarett+ to the RME UFX 3, will I notice a night and day difference in my AD/DA conversion? Or will it be nominal in your opinion?
I am sticking with RME and RME is coming out with new converters and interfaces firenet!
It was always a dongle. The DSP was pitiful in the UAD-1 and ate more than running the plugs natively. It makes sense why you'd need a dongle of that power in the age of piracy, but the idea that it was doing much was a stretch after around 2003
I need that "side by side " piece!!!!!!
That’s Purple Heart by the way. Not Padouk which is on the orange side :)
I’m it’s not, I have a lot of Purple Heart in the garage and this is “similar” but it hit Purple Heart. If you’ve worked with Purple Heart you know it stinks when milling and sanding. Padauk, yes looks orange when orking with it, but spraying poly, this is the way it comes out.
@@BarryJohnsweird, padouk has always stayed on the orange side for me but Purple Heart simply looks like that when I’m done. I’ve never seen a shade of purple like that on padouk but I’ll take your word for it.
great channel
First thing Blessings to you & your family! Honestly I think at this price range they should have updated the AD not just the DA. Sonically there being left behind by RME, Antelope etc.
They updated both. They have said so in their forums and on social
Barry, I know the Mac vs PC thing is beaten to death, but knowing that you have extensive experience with both platforms id love to hear some of your perspective why you go Mac. To me: Reaper and RME setup on PC is rock freaking solid and id never go back (I think) but I would be super interested in your perspective and experience
Everyone knew Mac was where it’s at years ago for music production
Sorry for all the comments: one more, actually on the subject matter of the video this time, and then I’ll shut up- I think UA has realized how much work it is to port all of their plugs to Native format. A new DSP processor could prove similarly challenging in that it may require an entire rewrite…they may not be willing to do that. Perhaps the ones that are already converted to Ntive would prove easier to port on a new chip, maybe something FPGA based.
Why not have the ability to have DSP rather than not? Any advantage is an advantage. If they have both native and DSP plug ins then why not just keep it going and make both equally? I get what you’re saying but a new computer these days is $6,000 for anything that’s really gonna get the job done.
How many rack spaces are the console 1 units?
I’ve been waiting on this video. UA is losing it.
There is a Dante I/O version
16D
As far as sound quality im not sure what to pick, mt48 ,symphony desktop or fireface
They all sound fine. Probably better to look at what other features are important to you: IO, preamps, etc
C vox and the unison preamps make a difference rather than just putting it on it has been proven. They should have at least add more dsp chips this is not enough sound ID was proven to me the worst room correction. I understand that the writing is on the wall but they should give their customers a better deal. I hope it’s that they are getting ready for something bing where I can record a band basically mixed with dsp and tweak it after.
All Im gona say is one of the homies at Sweetwater told me that everyone there basically is unimpressed with the updated converters. They said the first x series sound better and they are dated. Basically very unimpressed by them.
anyone Confirm This 🤣
I really believe this! The owner of a company that provides live sound for my live gig is also a high level employee with Guitar Center & he talks to me about bad products all the time! Just because they sell it doesn't mean it's not garbage 🗑️
Weird, just looked at the specs of the new Apollo vs Apogee Symphony MK2 SE, Avid Carbon and Antelope Orion and on paper it's superior/on par in most cases so it should be a great improvement
The desktops are night and day different. I’ve heard the both. The 8 is the same as the desktops but The 16 hasn’t changed. The old ones do not sound better. Whoever said that has no experience. I just listened to them at vintage king and A/B’d. Haven’t decided if I will upgrade or not but I’m leaning toward that because they also sound better than the symphony and Orion. I wasn’t impressed with either of those
I see Icon Audio
In my circle of LA based producers ... with M1 Pro or newer machines ... almost no one is using DSP anymore. Latency is a thing of 2019. M4 Max machines will end this discussion altogether imo. Gen 2 UA interfaces...waaay too little, way too late.
Wait, people argue that it’s better to track with plugins printed ????? lol
It can be if you know what you are doing. It can save DSP and processing and time later in the mix stage. I do it all of the time. No regrets but I also understand not everyone can commit like that
Wow
Honestly UA should stick to hardware and leave the conversion to the professionals.
The new specs on conversion are looking great tho
@@G-O-N-xthat’s what they said about the first Apollo lol
Yeah ok lol. Based on the specs they are better. Plenty of charts going around now showing that
@@spunkadellic Maybe, I'm just saying looking at numbers they are superior/on par with some of the best audio interfaces on the market, waiting to see real comparaisons tho
@@G-O-N-xnumbers and specs can say one thing but the look on clients faces when their new Apollo was blown away by my 17 year old apogee when doing a side by side comparison. I could care less about any converter specs that UA could have - the symphony mk2 studio 16 just released and I want that. I know how it sounds and UA can’t touch that.
Good to hear you’re ok. Can you please stop using auto focus, or move back from the camera? Your face constantly going in and out of focus is distracting.
I’m sorry, I get it, it’s not an issue the majority of the time, but I have no choice. I’m a one man show.
More speculation and less facts. Come on, man.
The channel is called “Studio Talk”. A lot of my videos are opinion based. I certainly understand if you disagree, that said brother it’s my channel and mine to go where I want with it. Not being a jerk, it am spitting facts about that.