Just wondering but how would ya'll feel about me doing more casual videos during the weekdays (like random tier lists and whatnot) on top of the usual Saturday uploads, or would you prefer I make a separate channel for that?
Maybe I'm just being a total homer here, but I believe TJ Hockenson might be one of the position's brightest stars of the future. The way that he got off the plane after the trade and pretty much had go jump into a uniform and hit the field with no preparation or practice with his new offense and not only provide a presence but also lighting the fire that helped beat the Commanders at FedEx field back in October is impressive all by itself. It'll be fun watching him in purple for the better part of the next decade.
I think fullback would be a fun one to look at because it'd most likely be like the opposite where it started strong and dwindled down outside of a few stand outs
Great video. Only things I think coulda been added was Greg Olsen in one era, he was like a Jason witten lite. And gronk was a great pass blocker even tho they ran him out, dude was the total package
They knew they couldn’t stop Gronk so they went low and broke his knee and legs he’s had 10-12 surgeries crazy enough and has over 100 Tds in about 10 seasons of play or less due to injury
I think most people know Kelce is good, but most don't know how ELITE he is. The guy in 2020 was 119 yards short of finishing the season as the NFL's receiving yardage leader, as a TIGHT END. The guy is way different from Gronk.
The biggest evolution of the TE was the development of the H-back position by Joe Gibbs in the 1980s which, combined with an increased tendency of most teams to run 3 WR base sets in the 00s, led to the near-demise of the traditional FB. Guys like Winslow, Wycheck, and Clark were successful not just because of their size or athleticism, but how they lined up and motioned around.
People always forget about Greg Olsen. First TE to have 3 straight 1000 yards seasons, and was the best receving option on the Cam Newton Panthers. Brady and Gronk, Brees and Graham, Smith/Mahomes and Kelce, NEWTON AND OLSON .
I didn’t forget about Greg Olsen and honestly I’m kind of surprised how many people are talking about him. I didn’t mention him because I didn’t think he added anything extra to the positions evolution. And yes newton and Olsen were a dynamic qb te duo, I think that shows more how bad his receivers were rather than how great Olsen was. But your right probably should have mentioned him.
Of course I liked this video. You could've said a bit more about Ozzie but I get it. After all a bunch of interesting guys weren't mentioned. Mark Bavarro, Ben Watson, Bert Jones, Jay Novacek, etcetera. None of those guys advanced the position like the guys you mentioned. Good video
If oj Howard stayed healthy he would of been amazing. The couple glimpses we saw of him in Tampa we're awesome he was fast and insanely strong. I think we'll see more TE be slimmer and faster than gronk Kelce and kittle
I think there's too many twists and turnes for our pewnie mortal minds to bear such a master peice. Our brains would explode with the sheer perfection of it.
Jackie Smith & John Mackey were coming onto the seen , too. Just right behind Mike . the TE spot took off good in the 1970's . But , it was Kellen Winslow that MADE it what it is today ? Chiefs & Chargers have had a couple of REALL good TE"S , each . 2 in the Hall & 2 more that will be , soon .
1970's TE"S went down ? Jerry Smith , Bob Tucker , Richard Caster , Raymond Chester , Charlie Sanders , Charley Young , Riley Odoms , Russ Francis , Dave Casper , Ozzie Newsome [1978 ] Todd Christenson [ 1979 ] & into the 1980's , With Winslow as 2 of the best in that decade .So by MY count that is 11 TE"S that started OR played in the 1970's & left a mark behind them !
In the 1970s, we used to debate whether Dave Casper or Russ Francis was the GOAT at tight end. I doubt anyone these days even remembers those two legendary players. In 50 years, in 2074, many people will barely remember a lot of great players from 2024.
Sodexo is a much better player than a coach he's a jackass as a coach trading away a whole draft for Ricky Williams and not given Walter Payton the ball on the goal-line in a Superbowl sorry won a Superbowl but it was Buddy Ryan the players respected
Most of the so-called tight ends now aren't even tight ends. Kelce lines up as a wide receiver most of the time and runs a pass route on every down.. probably couldn't throw a block if his life depended on it. The same goes for Whitten, Tony Gonzalez, Shannon Sharpe, and the rest of them. Meanwhile, many great true tight ends are being overlooked for the HOF like Mark Bavaro.
Fo the 80s, we should not forget Todd Christensen and Mark Bavaro. The Raider was a very productive reciever, fantastic at getting open and after the catch abailities. Bavaro was more in the mold of John Mackey, a beast at blocking with gret reciever years in 86 and 87.
Well done video. Your channel is all stuff younger/newer NFL fans should watch. Kids trying to tell me that Gronk was better than Tony G and don't even know the names of anyone older than Shannon Sharpe. Good stuff man keep it up.
Jackie Smith is blamed for a loss that wasn’t really his fault. First of all, Staubach, by his own admission, threw a lousy pass. Look at the film. The pass was low and behind Smith. Second of all, Landry called a lousy play. It was a goal line play called on a 3rd and 10 situation. Third of all, Smith was coaxed out of retirement and barely played that season and didn’t have a single catch. He was the third string TE. Fourth, the Cowboys committed three turnovers, all of which the Steelers converted into TDS on the ensuing drives. One of those turnovers was an interception thrown by Staubach. So to say Smith was the cause for the Cowboys losing is to not look at the facts. Smith set a record for receiving yards by a TE with 1205 in 1967 on just 56 receptions. That’s a 21.5 yard average per catch. He also held career records for a TE in receptions, yard and TDs at the time of his retirement. Also, from 1964-69, he had 281 receptions for 4670 yards (16.6 yards per catch) and 21 TDs. While his TD and receptions totals were less, his total yards were right up there and his yards per catch was WR worthy, like Lance Alworth worthy.
Just wondering but how would ya'll feel about me doing more casual videos during the weekdays (like random tier lists and whatnot) on top of the usual Saturday uploads, or would you prefer I make a separate channel for that?
I'd like for you to do those type of videos. Any new video is good, also don't make a new channel, don't want you to get burnt out
Heck yeah
Yessir
Yes
Any content is good content!
For him being the first modern tight end, ditka’s numbers actually matched up decently with kelce’s
Maybe I'm just being a total homer here, but I believe TJ Hockenson might be one of the position's brightest stars of the future. The way that he got off the plane after the trade and pretty much had go jump into a uniform and hit the field with no preparation or practice with his new offense and not only provide a presence but also lighting the fire that helped beat the Commanders at FedEx field back in October is impressive all by itself. It'll be fun watching him in purple for the better part of the next decade.
Have fun with mister drop passes 🥱
I think fullback would be a fun one to look at because it'd most likely be like the opposite where it started strong and dwindled down outside of a few stand outs
The TE spot is one of of the most underrated positions after OL winch is the power of offensive game.
I enjoyed this vide good job well written
Amazing video👍
Great video. Only things I think coulda been added was Greg Olsen in one era, he was like a Jason witten lite. And gronk was a great pass blocker even tho they ran him out, dude was the total package
Make the vids on this channel. I think that’s a great idea. I’m so glad you mentioned Jimmy Graham. He was a beast and a major player in evolution.
dont forget tha dominant career of greg olsen he was an above average te during career
Brock bowers called he says ur lat on your car insurance
Now can you do linebackers
Evolution of TubFrogs hair
5:27 Yo Mr White we need to catch
LOL
Do a Fullback one
THe FULL DE-EVOLUTION of the TE Position in the CFL (12-man football)
Uncle Shannon is the T.E. G.O.A.T.
This is where Tom Brady began 💀💀
So for the 1340 to the 1940s😂
nice
wb greg olsen
Sr. Not Jr.
Ozzie Newsome was shunned.
Brock Bowers is going to be the best Tight End in NFL history, save this comment so in 10 years I’ll say “I told you so”
Gates > Gonzalez
First
They knew they couldn’t stop Gronk so they went low and broke his knee and legs he’s had 10-12 surgeries crazy enough and has over 100 Tds in about 10 seasons of play or less due to injury
It wasnt just gronk basically every te gets their legs taken out
I think most people know Kelce is good, but most don't know how ELITE he is. The guy in 2020 was 119 yards short of finishing the season as the NFL's receiving yardage leader, as a TIGHT END.
The guy is way different from Gronk.
Yes he’s a receiver not a TE
Can't wait till we finally get to the evolution of the punter in these evolution videos..
From Ray Guy to Ray Guy
Pat McAfee role
The biggest evolution of the TE was the development of the H-back position by Joe Gibbs in the 1980s which, combined with an increased tendency of most teams to run 3 WR base sets in the 00s, led to the near-demise of the traditional FB. Guys like Winslow, Wycheck, and Clark were successful not just because of their size or athleticism, but how they lined up and motioned around.
i remember u had like 400 subs not that long ago congrats on 30k ur content is so fire
Todd Christensen should've been mentioned, one of the main weapons of the great Oakland/LA Raiders teams of the 80's
How come this guy doesn't have anymore subs his channel is amazing
I'm missing one other tight end who has a documentary on him on Netflix, but obviously he wasn't only killing it on the field....
Every video the brady picture gets more secured i swear
He’s not going anywhere
People always forget about Greg Olsen. First TE to have 3 straight 1000 yards seasons, and was the best receving option on the Cam Newton Panthers. Brady and Gronk, Brees and Graham, Smith/Mahomes and Kelce, NEWTON AND OLSON .
I didn’t forget about Greg Olsen and honestly I’m kind of surprised how many people are talking about him. I didn’t mention him because I didn’t think he added anything extra to the positions evolution. And yes newton and Olsen were a dynamic qb te duo, I think that shows more how bad his receivers were rather than how great Olsen was. But your right probably should have mentioned him.
That walter white reference was on point but anybody else see ron howard there too? 👀
That one Gronk Play was Hilarious LMAO
Gronk is the most dominant and balanced TE Run blocking and Catching TDS in the regular season or playoffs having the most duo TDS 16
Love when you upload
Of course I liked this video. You could've said a bit more about Ozzie but I get it. After all a bunch of interesting guys weren't mentioned. Mark Bavarro, Ben Watson, Bert Jones, Jay Novacek, etcetera. None of those guys advanced the position like the guys you mentioned. Good video
New England’s other TE in the early 2010’s was a killer tho
God dang it.
If oj Howard stayed healthy he would of been amazing. The couple glimpses we saw of him in Tampa we're awesome he was fast and insanely strong. I think we'll see more TE be slimmer and faster than gronk Kelce and kittle
Babe wake up new TubFrog
Do corner back next or kickers that would be cool
Looking forward to the evolution of defensive linemen 🏈
I think there's too many twists and turnes for our pewnie mortal minds to bear such a master peice. Our brains would explode with the sheer perfection of it.
Can we stop with the narrative that Gronk wasn’t used as a blocker?
Jackie Smith & John Mackey were coming onto the seen , too. Just right behind Mike . the TE spot took off good in the 1970's . But , it was Kellen Winslow that MADE it what it is today ? Chiefs & Chargers have had a couple of REALL good TE"S , each . 2 in the Hall & 2 more that will be , soon .
1970's TE"S went down ? Jerry Smith , Bob Tucker , Richard Caster , Raymond Chester , Charlie Sanders , Charley Young , Riley Odoms , Russ Francis , Dave Casper , Ozzie Newsome [1978 ] Todd Christenson [ 1979 ] & into the 1980's , With Winslow as 2 of the best in that decade .So by MY count that is 11 TE"S that started OR played in the 1970's & left a mark behind them !
Amazing Video
good video as always
IMO you’re underselling Gronk as a blocker.
Fair, he was a pretty good blocker but I was kind of trying to say that wasn’t his speciality
An amazing video … so much good history of the Tight End!
Thank you again TubFrog.
My cousin was a good TE, it’s just that most of his career was wasted on the 90’s Bengals, and if you know football you know how bad they were.
It’s crazy how nobody really talks about how Shannon really revolutionized the position
In the 1970s, we used to debate whether Dave Casper or Russ Francis was the GOAT at tight end.
I doubt anyone these days even remembers those two legendary players.
In 50 years, in 2074, many people will barely remember a lot of great players from 2024.
Jeremy Shockey, Charlie Sanders, Riley Odomes, Billy Joe Dupree, Doug Cosbey, Jay Novachek.
Mark Bavaro deserves more love
Sodexo is a much better player than a coach he's a jackass as a coach trading away a whole draft for Ricky Williams and not given Walter Payton the ball on the goal-line in a Superbowl sorry won a Superbowl but it was Buddy Ryan the players respected
Most of the so-called tight ends now aren't even tight ends. Kelce lines up as a wide receiver most of the time and runs a pass route on every down.. probably couldn't throw a block if his life depended on it. The same goes for Whitten, Tony Gonzalez, Shannon Sharpe, and the rest of them. Meanwhile, many great true tight ends are being overlooked for the HOF like Mark Bavaro.
I think Heath Miller is actually a really underrated Tight End, although I suppose you could say it was also Ben that made him successful
Why you disrespect Pete Werner like that?!? 😭😭
Alex Smith doesn't receive the credit he deserves. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to the HoF
I would love to see a video on the demise of the Fullback, which is probably related to the rise of the Tight End
Did you play Phantasy Star 2 or watch me play Phantasy Star 2 at all or were you too young
Full evolution of linebackers
Full evolution of Defense lineman
Full evolution of Offensive lineman
Why the flak towards Ozzie? He’s in the HOF.
add a broken heart on the TB12 poster
I may
10:32 Wouldn’t Antonio Gates also be Tony G? 😁
AFC West is kinda TE Factory
You leave out Mark Barvaro shame
Jesse we have to run TE Attack
Wth no mention of Aaron Hernandez??
Kelce doesn’t block at all
What’s up with your hair bro? 😂
Hey man wheres shocky & gramham?
George Halas was a genius
I love Walter white
Ozzie disrespect????
He is tony Gonzalez, university of California?
elite reference
Fo the 80s, we should not forget Todd Christensen and Mark Bavaro. The Raider was a very productive reciever, fantastic at getting open and after the catch abailities. Bavaro was more in the mold of John Mackey, a beast at blocking with gret reciever years in 86 and 87.
wb greg olsen
Well done video. Your channel is all stuff younger/newer NFL fans should watch. Kids trying to tell me that Gronk was better than Tony G and don't even know the names of anyone older than Shannon Sharpe. Good stuff man keep it up.
Top 7 TE ever
1. Tony Gonzalez
2. Antonio Gates
3. Jason Witten
4. Rob Gronkowski
5. Shannon Sharpe
6. Dave Casper
7. Travis Kelce
Give Travis like another year and he’s right behind gronk
Witten is not as good as novacek
Jackie Smith is blamed for a loss that wasn’t really his fault. First of all, Staubach, by his own admission, threw a lousy pass. Look at the film. The pass was low and behind Smith. Second of all, Landry called a lousy play. It was a goal line play called on a 3rd and 10 situation. Third of all, Smith was coaxed out of retirement and barely played that season and didn’t have a single catch. He was the third string TE. Fourth, the Cowboys committed three turnovers, all of which the Steelers converted into TDS on the ensuing drives. One of those turnovers was an interception thrown by Staubach. So to say Smith was the cause for the Cowboys losing is to not look at the facts.
Smith set a record for receiving yards by a TE with 1205 in 1967 on just 56 receptions. That’s a 21.5 yard average per catch. He also held career records for a TE in receptions, yard and TDs at the time of his retirement.
Also, from 1964-69, he had 281 receptions for 4670 yards (16.6 yards per catch) and 21 TDs. While his TD and receptions totals were less, his total yards were right up there and his yards per catch was WR worthy, like Lance Alworth worthy.
Sharpe has 3 super bowl's raven's 00
Only real ones have been here since 800 subs
When you gone do defense
Unc was a different breed indeed.