The interesting plow is a Massey Harris #26 plow with 23A bottoms; standard plowing match equipment for Ontario, Canada. I'm not a Massey expert, but there was a window of time when the plows were painted green. You can see a bunch of red Massy Harris tractors and plows in the background. I would have to bet those clips were from the International Plowing Match (IPM) in Ontario, Canada. Interesting that fellow was trying to use a narrow front Oliver with that Massey plow. The typical fare is a standard-tread Massey Harris tractor in Ontario. With a narrow front, you are almost guaranteed to lose points from a wheel mark in your finish from the front tires (the width of the two front tires could be 14" or more, but the furrow bottom is only 8"-10", so one tire leaves a little mark that does not get plowed up on the last pass). Conversely, I've been told a narrow front tractor was ideal to use in the contour class. The narrow front allowed you to drive the curve wide which kept the rear tractor tire in the furrow. Using a wide front, the best you could do in a curve was keep the front tire against the furrow wheel which meant the rear tire was either trying to climb out of the furrow or possibly driving over plowed ground.
My grandfather had an Oliver dealership in western PA, and I spent a lot of time there and going to all the farm shows, etc. around the area. I remember riding with him in a big flatbed GMC truck to either Cleveland or Columbus, to pick up some tractors. It was my job to keep him from falling asleep at the wheel. I want to buy an Oliver for my farm, to spread lime and fertilizer and for pulling a batwing rotary cutter. I keep getting into auctions, and getting outbid by last minute snipers. I guess everybody is after these great old tractors. Would be a very sentimental purchase for me.
Kudos, Chris, for putting these videos up! For me it has brought back some fond memories. Plowing in a contest was a thrill. We never had a time limit, we were scored on straightness of the back furrow, conformity of furrows, trash left on the ground. Ground was not supposed to show any trash, neatness of the dead furrow. Oh, and straightness of the headlands, when the plow went in the ground and when you raised it out. To make the furrows even, the rule of thumb was, if you had 14" bottom, you needed to plow 7" deep, 16" needed to plowl 8" deep, at that depth the plow would turn the furrow completely upside down. You were counted down for standing them on edge. Thanks again for the movies, do post some more, if you have them!!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Glad to hear that, I am very interested in that. So glad to see you have movies of that time. My Mother was pretty good about taking pictures, but we never had movies.
Love these old home movies. It’s too bad your grandpa didn’t make a booklet to tell what was what but you do an excellent job Chris. Keep them coming. Take care & stay safe. Cheers
Enjoy those old home movies. I love watching the ones of my grandfather and when the tractors were new. Funny thing is we still run his old tractors today yet too.
This is incredible! I would have never thought these films existed! I went with a neighbor farmer and his family to a competition in the late 50s in Greenville, Ohio. They had one of the new John Deere big 4 wheel drive tractors there. I'm thinkin' 9010, but it's been so long ago, I'm just not sure. To a young kid, it was fascinating! I never even knew they did such things! Something that jumped out to me, was that most of men watching the thing were wearing white shirts. It was event to see something like that... so you wear s white shirt🙂. Thank you so much. You brought back so memories of a time I had, all but, forgotten.
They had the ohio state plowing championship in greenville alot of years. I went with my dad in 65 or 66 ? To a young kid it was a MONSTER event. I remember all the men walking around with yard sticks measuring
Pretty tough to play on the cell phone with no auto steer. Lol. Those guys knew how to work, and their leisure time was filled up showing how good they were at working.
Oh to be able to go back and run a super 88 brand new. You were sitting on top of a big horse back then. Those furrows are insane. You could shoot an A-B line down those things they are so straight.
Love seeing these type of videos. Thanks for sharing this. I can smell the fresh dirt and diesel exhaust way down by me (diesel is my memory from spring in the 1980s).
I had to chuckle when you said Contour Plowing was difficult. I could never go straight in our hills cultivating don’t know what it would have looked like plowing 😳 Love your videos, really appreciate you for doing them. 👍👍
Man keep these coming boy I can remember getting yelled at about plowing keeping everything straight neat I can remember having corn growing contest we actually won it one year ,I can remember plowing a old hay field down one year ,my dad ended up finishing it before I made to big of a mess out of it
These films are incredible. A little before my time but I spent a lot of time on a super 88 in the furrow as a kid. Dad would let me know if I wasn't doing it right.
It was before my time, but I agree. Things weren't as easy, but a man could farm a 100 acres or so, and feed his family and keep the bills paid. The wife and kids were always around, you had your little corner of the world and that was all you needed.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris do you suppose they had free agency too?? Here in NY they approved mobile betting, but not around areas that have casinos. But we got pot, had some here try to raise hemp, didn't fare to well.
These videos are so cool. You’ve done a really nice job putting them together. I’m pretty sure I’ve asked you this before but if you had some videos of the dealership and of some of the newer Oliver tractors could you show them someday? Sorry I think I forgot what your answer was to that last time I asked lol
I wish I did. It's like grandpa's movie camera broke in the early 60s. I do have some color slides from the 60s I could make into a slide show type of movie. I should dig through dad's home movies, I think it's mostly family stuff, but their might be some tractor footage as well.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yeah I wonder why he stopped filming all of a sudden? So far the videos you have shared have been awesome. I was thinking to myself man if he took videos like this right through all the years we are really in store for an awesome history lesson. Regardless I’m still grateful for the ones that you’ve shared so far. You really got a neat piece of history there
I could only guess why he stopped filming. Life gets busy, kids grow up.... my aunt might know. With the number of slides he took, I'm thinking that took over from movies. There was a trend for a time where you took slides and then had people over and forced them to sit through pictures of your vacation to the Poconos.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris hahaha! You know what you are absolutely right. When I was younger I found a slide projector at my grandparents house. When I showed interest it immediately sparked their interest. He unfolded the collapsible screen so we could look at some of them and four hours later he had about three suitcases full of slides lol.
I remember someone talking about fitting some Ransomes bottoms to an Oliver plow, but from what I know of them, it doesn't look like either Oliver or Ransomes. Is Fiskars the same company that makes scissors today?
Fiskars i am not sure of. My grandpa plowed completivly in the 1950s and I have heard those names brought before in some discussions and in doing research. I know somewhere I had seen a john deere 44 modded with different bottoms. Don't remember what brand
when alot of tractors were brand new 😊😊 in the 1940s 1950s tractor dealer shops had working demos now 2 day U dont see anything like that no more 😮😮 it's sad 😔 😮 2 say and U could drive the tractors yourself plowing disking and other equipment a tractor 🚜 😊 dealer would that equipment all brand new 😊😊 OMG 5 10 2O24
Mr. Losey. Thank you for your videos. They are both entertaining and informative. I have reverted to your videos on several occasions to help me through some tech issues on my own equipment. I am currently battling an issue with an 1855 steering issue. Is there any chance I could email you directly for some guidance and feedback? I understand that you probably get this type of question on a frequent basis, and if you do not wish to respond I understand, but I’m pulling my hair out with this one and hate to just keep throwing time and money at it. Regardless as to my request. Please keep up the videos and keeping us all entertained.
The interesting plow is a Massey Harris #26 plow with 23A bottoms; standard plowing match equipment for Ontario, Canada. I'm not a Massey expert, but there was a window of time when the plows were painted green. You can see a bunch of red Massy Harris tractors and plows in the background. I would have to bet those clips were from the International Plowing Match (IPM) in Ontario, Canada.
Interesting that fellow was trying to use a narrow front Oliver with that Massey plow. The typical fare is a standard-tread Massey Harris tractor in Ontario. With a narrow front, you are almost guaranteed to lose points from a wheel mark in your finish from the front tires (the width of the two front tires could be 14" or more, but the furrow bottom is only 8"-10", so one tire leaves a little mark that does not get plowed up on the last pass).
Conversely, I've been told a narrow front tractor was ideal to use in the contour class. The narrow front allowed you to drive the curve wide which kept the rear tractor tire in the furrow. Using a wide front, the best you could do in a curve was keep the front tire against the furrow wheel which meant the rear tire was either trying to climb out of the furrow or possibly driving over plowed ground.
Awesome information! My dad went to the IPM in Ontario, Canada, I think it was 63. He used a 770 and a specially built Oliver plow.
Good video I was born in 48 so it brings back good memories
My grandfather had an Oliver dealership in western PA, and I spent a lot of time there and going to all the farm shows, etc. around the area. I remember riding with him in a big flatbed GMC truck to either Cleveland or Columbus, to pick up some tractors. It was my job to keep him from falling asleep at the wheel. I want to buy an Oliver for my farm, to spread lime and fertilizer and for pulling a batwing rotary cutter. I keep getting into auctions, and getting outbid by last minute snipers. I guess everybody is after these great old tractors. Would be a very sentimental purchase for me.
Thank you very much for this beautiful old pictures. 🙂👍
You are very welcome
Very interesting pc of history here sir thanks for sharing this 👌👌👌👌👍👍👍
Kudos, Chris, for putting these videos up! For me it has brought back some fond memories. Plowing in a contest was a thrill. We never had a time limit, we were scored on straightness of the back furrow, conformity of furrows, trash left on the ground. Ground was not supposed to show any trash, neatness of the dead furrow. Oh, and straightness of the headlands, when the plow went in the ground and when you raised it out. To make the furrows even, the rule of thumb was, if you had 14" bottom, you needed to plow 7" deep, 16" needed to plowl 8" deep, at that depth the plow would turn the furrow completely upside down. You were counted down for standing them on edge. Thanks again for the movies, do post some more, if you have them!!
Thanks for the info! I do have more, some from a national contest in Iowa. I need to figure out which year that would have been.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Glad to hear that, I am very interested in that. So glad to see you have movies of that time. My Mother was pretty good about taking pictures, but we never had movies.
Way back when I had a 4240 plow, a neighbor said they were very popular for plowing competitions, so I would say your video can confirm that!
Thank you for sharing Chris!!
Hard to narrate when you weren't there.. but you know enough about the people who were, that you do great!
Thanks, Ed!
This is a great video, I like the old plowing videos.
Love these old home movies. It’s too bad your grandpa didn’t make a booklet to tell what was what but you do an excellent job Chris. Keep them coming. Take care & stay safe. Cheers
Thanks!
Thank you so much for sharing, great to watch these much better times that are sadly gone now...
Wonderful history right there!
Enjoy those old home movies. I love watching the ones of my grandfather and when the tractors were new. Funny thing is we still run his old tractors today yet too.
And to think all this equipment is wearing their original colors, another good video
What a difference 60 years makes. I remember these days, plowing with an Oliver Super 88, then an 1850. More tractors after that.
Nice seeing the history of back then.
This is incredible! I would have never thought these films existed! I went with a neighbor farmer and his family to a competition in the late 50s in Greenville, Ohio. They had one of the new John Deere big 4 wheel drive tractors there. I'm thinkin' 9010, but it's been so long ago, I'm just not sure. To a young kid, it was fascinating! I never even knew they did such things! Something that jumped out to me, was that most of men watching the thing were wearing white shirts. It was event to see something like that... so you wear s white shirt🙂. Thank you so much. You brought back so memories of a time I had, all but, forgotten.
Glad you enjoyed it!
They had the ohio state plowing championship in greenville alot of years. I went with my dad in 65 or 66 ? To a young kid it was a MONSTER event. I remember all the men walking around with yard sticks measuring
Deere had the 8010 around that time. Had a 6-71 Jimmy in it I believe. I don't remember if it came out in late '59 or '60. It was one of the two.
Old home movies are cool. Thanks for sharing. The little orange tractor at the 3:19 I think was a Bantam. I have one, soon to be my grandson's
Thanks for identifying it. I figured it was a custom built machine.
Pretty tough to play on the cell phone with no auto steer. Lol. Those guys knew how to work, and their leisure time was filled up showing how good they were at working.
Pretty neat old movies. Interesting how times have changed. My dad bought a 66 and 77 around 1957. The 66 was a demonstrator but the 77 was new.
Awesome stuff. It's also awesome you're archiving it in a digital format and sharing to the world to see! Love it! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Oh to be able to go back and run a super 88 brand new. You were sitting on top of a big horse back then. Those furrows are insane. You could shoot an A-B line down those things they are so straight.
And clean. No crumbling on the furrow wall. I've had some rough rides following others at plow days.
A lost art.
Love seeing these type of videos. Thanks for sharing this. I can smell the fresh dirt and diesel exhaust way down by me (diesel is my memory from spring in the 1980s).
Always neat to see would be cool to see something like this come to an rantoul type show
I had to chuckle when you said Contour Plowing was difficult.
I could never go straight in our hills cultivating don’t know what it would have looked like plowing 😳
Love your videos, really appreciate you for doing them. 👍👍
Man keep these coming boy I can remember getting yelled at about plowing keeping everything straight neat I can remember having corn growing contest we actually won it one year ,I can remember plowing a old hay field down one year ,my dad ended up finishing it before I made to big of a mess out of it
Sounds like my dad. He never let me plow, too worried someone might see it and think he did it I guess.
Thank you Sir😀😀😀
Good times. Better times. That’s all I can say.
Theses are so interesting thanks for posting!
These films are incredible. A little before my time but I spent a lot of time on a super 88 in the furrow as a kid. Dad would let me know if I wasn't doing it right.
You have a great legacy going.
Thanks!
Keep them coming 😂 Really enjoying them 😉☺️
Thanks for sharing the videos, they are really fun to watch! It would have been alot of fun to be there back in the day!
Thanks Chris
The good old days. I sure don't think life was easier then. I think it was simpler and I think people in general were happier.
It was before my time, but I agree. Things weren't as easy, but a man could farm a 100 acres or so, and feed his family and keep the bills paid. The wife and kids were always around, you had your little corner of the world and that was all you needed.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris that and 35 dairy cows for a steady paycheck.
Great video Chris
Your T-shirts look good 👍
Thanks 👍
"Queen of the furrow"... that sounds like a country song
It doesn't exactly sound family friendly! Lol
If I invent the time machine this is the time I will return to.
I know I don't invent the time machine, because I would have come back and told me about it by now.
Great video bro, I notice white shirts must have been the high viz of the time as they stand out well. Safe travels up your way
I am near Syracuse ny but the tractor is located in Elba ny which is about 1 hour east of buffalo. You can view it on Facebook marketplace
I'll check it out. Thanks
Competitive plowing had bunting and paparazzi and a queen!! Was there wagering also??
I suppose anything is possible! We've got legal online gambling here in Michigan, maybe they have the Vegas odds on the winner!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris do you suppose they had free agency too?? Here in NY they approved mobile betting, but not around areas that have casinos. But we got pot, had some here try to raise hemp, didn't fare to well.
These videos are so cool. You’ve done a really nice job putting them together. I’m pretty sure I’ve asked you this before but if you had some videos of the dealership and of some of the newer Oliver tractors could you show them someday? Sorry I think I forgot what your answer was to that last time I asked lol
I wish I did. It's like grandpa's movie camera broke in the early 60s. I do have some color slides from the 60s I could make into a slide show type of movie. I should dig through dad's home movies, I think it's mostly family stuff, but their might be some tractor footage as well.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yeah I wonder why he stopped filming all of a sudden? So far the videos you have shared have been awesome. I was thinking to myself man if he took videos like this right through all the years we are really in store for an awesome history lesson. Regardless I’m still grateful for the ones that you’ve shared so far. You really got a neat piece of history there
I could only guess why he stopped filming. Life gets busy, kids grow up.... my aunt might know. With the number of slides he took, I'm thinking that took over from movies. There was a trend for a time where you took slides and then had people over and forced them to sit through pictures of your vacation to the Poconos.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris hahaha! You know what you are absolutely right. When I was younger I found a slide projector at my grandparents house. When I showed interest it immediately sparked their interest. He unfolded the collapsible screen so we could look at some of them and four hours later he had about three suitcases full of slides lol.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yep lol
Is there a way to make the speedometer cable on the 1800a not so sharp of a bend
Maybe get a longer one?
Pretty queen
Wonder if the plow you couldn't identify was a kverneland or a fiskars? Btw thanks for taking the time to share these videos!
I remember someone talking about fitting some Ransomes bottoms to an Oliver plow, but from what I know of them, it doesn't look like either Oliver or Ransomes. Is Fiskars the same company that makes scissors today?
Fiskars i am not sure of. My grandpa plowed completivly in the 1950s and I have heard those names brought before in some discussions and in doing research. I know somewhere I had seen a john deere 44 modded with different bottoms. Don't remember what brand
when alot of tractors were brand new 😊😊 in the 1940s 1950s tractor dealer shops had working demos now 2 day U dont see anything like that no more 😮😮 it's sad 😔 😮 2 say and U could drive the tractors yourself plowing disking and other equipment a tractor 🚜 😊 dealer would that equipment all brand new 😊😊 OMG 5 10 2O24
Mr. Losey. Thank you for your videos. They are both entertaining and informative. I have reverted to your videos on several occasions to help me through some tech issues on my own equipment. I am currently battling an issue with an 1855 steering issue. Is there any chance I could email you directly for some guidance and feedback? I understand that you probably get this type of question on a frequent basis, and if you do not wish to respond I understand, but I’m pulling my hair out with this one and hate to just keep throwing time and money at it. Regardless as to my request. Please keep up the videos and keeping us all entertained.
You can email me at hpocachris@gmail.com
Hi Chris are you interested in a 1968 Oliver 1950 4wd gm diesel ?
I suppose if the price is right. I already have a 1966 1950 4wd gm diesel. Where are you located?