Honestly, the drama was probably the best thing to happen to spite actually if you think about it. His channel is growing super fast and he has a strong core audience who will keep his view counts relatively high. But really the classy move would have been to amicably split and cross promote spites channel for three months. Help him to a 100k subs and kept a friend. Instead, he went full Chad.
I personally love Yam's incoherent wordsmithing. I have no idea what he's saying but i 100% read him loud and clear. That said Spite grew on me and I support the boy... even if he likes adv bikes.
YN is a narcissist. Imagine posting a video telling the world that you fired your best employee because you wanted their job even though they were a huge part of your success. Then YN was shocked that people weren't on his side. The guy is out of touch with reality. I'm one of the 10k that unsubscribed from him and subscribed to Spites Corner.
10k out of over a million is a drop in the bucket . Now I'm not happy for the change either but if yall liked spite so much why weren't you subbed to his channel before this happened lol
I watched yammie a tiny bit a few years ago but really quickly got tired of him. Only ones I could stand had spite take a lead roll in them before even that got enough and I basically just blocked the channel completely. So glad Spite has his own stuff now
@@KSMotoCafe After the porche wreck he didnt really have a means of generating motorcycle content so he would do videos making fun of shitty craigslist bikes n stuff, but that got old fast, so he bought an old Hornet to clean up and get running for content. He took a poll on what to paint the tank and people told him to cover it in hentai stickers, so he did. But ultimately, getting the bike running was beyond his ability...enter Spite. Spite started showing up here or there, helped get things running and made up for YN mechanical shortfalls and inability to ride. This is what makes Spite's firing so f-ing bad. YN was floundering HARD prior to Spite. Spite helped him next level it. I've been watching YN since his first post on his brand new Yamaha R3, hence the Yammie Noob name. Im not saying he owes it all to spite, but he owes at least half his success if not more. Watch Spites Corner, it feels like YN while when you now watch YN now it feels bland and meh. The heavy lifting that gave YN time and breathing room to be funny and creative WAS Spite. It was such a d1ck move and a really bad business decision. IMO they both kinda need each other, theyre better together than apart. Ride safe!
I honestly hope we DON'T see a collab between Spite and Yam. Spite doesn't need it, and Yam would only regard it as vindication. The best thing we can all do right now is help get Spite up to 100K subs as fast as possible. This will get him the clout he really needs for his channel to start attracting the attention of serious sponsors so that he can comfortably keep on making content full time, and get him on the right side of the algorythm to get his channel pushed and start generating even MORE subs. When you stop and think about it, Yam may actually have done Spite a favor here. Spite would still just be collecting a paycheck from that egomaniac if this hadn't gone down. Spite's corner would still be an unknown channel, and we'd still be getting a version of Spite that had been run through a Yammie Noob filter.
In fairness, they both have some strengths and a lot of weaknesses. Both will suck more now that they’re not filling the gaps each have. It’s gone from bad to worse.
@@ryanmalone2681 I can't agree. So far, I think the greatest weakness Spite has is simply not being a big enough channel to pull in the big sponsors and the big views. And I think that is going to change pretty quickly.
What got me was right before Spite got canned YN had released a video about their new digs. Spit was stoked about the garage he had helped design and setup and was talking about how much he was looking forward to working on bikes. I honestly thought maybe YN was going to stretch into featuring mods or maybe even start doing customs or whatever. You could clearly see Spite was excited. Then about a week later the video came out of Spite being canned. I instantly unsubscribed from YN and subscribed to Spite's corner. Seriously, Spite was the whole reason I was watching YN in the first place. Absolutely love his bike reviews.
Spite made the show more watchable. He evened out the energy and was very professional. YN is very weird by himself... he needs a counterbalance and Spite was it .
@@Telecasterland Yeah, and you'll notice that he has Whitney on his modest list of Spite-Approved content, in a bit of a hat-tip to her own videos. They seemed to work well, together, like well-adjusted siblings, being mutually open, and encouraging, while each respectfully allowing the other to stick-up for their own opinions, and "takes," on various things. I also think that it's good to have a woman chiming-in, on various bikes, since it can act as an encouragement for more women to think about getting-into riding, thus expanding the market.
Here’s my cut and dry assessment. Eric was the “CEO” of YN. Which is completely understandable, Spite is his employee and Eric wanted to keep the money the way it was in the beginning. The problem here is spite built that channel quite a bit and honestly from the viewer POV YN channel wouldn’t be anywhere close to what it is today without him. So I can see there being a contractual problem now. Spite wants to be compensated accordingly and Eric doesn’t want to give up any of his earnings to pay spite more. Personally Eric should have sold out a percentage of the company to spite, raising his salary, but also raising his liability the company too. This way Eric has his money, keeps his golden child to help build it more, and nothing really changes. Spite makes more money and everyone is happy. I just think Eric is greedy, which is what everyone has been saying.
Before Spite, he was around 200k subs. If I remember correctly, Spite initially was a viewer who was local to YN and started helping the YN channel. Also, I've always wondered what kind of person would want to be known as the yamaha noob.... especially after the porsche incident.
@@al6r725 yea i never knew about the porsche incident. Really only knew their was a bad crash in his past but I didnt start getting into motorcycle content until late 2021 anyways so i missed all that. I think if Spite can keep his relationships with the companies he's dealt with while at YN, I think his channel has potential to grow quickly. The problem is, he helped YN grow to where it is now and probably gave them lots of the ideas for things like giveaways and stores and etc. So if he tries to do the same thing, it will look like hes trying to copy YN. So he does need to keep it original while also sticking to what he does best. It will take time but his channel will do well I think.
@@al6r725 yea Spite was like a random dude that started to help with Harley stuff if I remember. YN wanted to do Harley videos and Spite said he’d help.
Honestly Spite was the only person on the YN channel worth watching. I hadn't been subscribed for a long time before this because I find the YN personality to be annoying, but I'd watch the occasional video featuring Spite and his thoughts on whatever bike he was riding. I'm happy to never have to return to YNs channel and now I can just be subbed to Spites corner.
Agree yn has an annoying voice for me. And spite is about the same build as me so he's who I was following on the yn channel. Spite was spot on with he's review of the z650 at the time I was using one myself to go through my license. He had the same views as myself so quite glad to have found spites corner as now I can watch just the content creator I'm after
@@hexsymbol2229 Yep, because, as to ergos, and what does or doesn't work for him, you can more-readily make determinations of what might or might not bw good, for-you. Some big guys are simply a scrunched-up on bikes that are too-small, just as a short-inseam person is not gonna be able to flat-foot a tall-clearance bike.
A lot of the old videos aren't around anymore, but the Porsche incident wasn't even the first time he acted with a ridiculous level of narcissism. It wasn't his first major crash, either. Yammie Noob has always been like this, so this definitely won't be the last time he does something selfish that makes people realize his true character. Since his channel is geared towards new riders, he continues to get new subscribers who don't have a clue about the history of his channel or his patterns of narcissism.
Yeah I thought his channel was done after the accident, but he made a big comeback with his top ten lists videos lol. He'll probably return to that type of content.
I am really happy for Spite, his on camera presence and work ethic will only mean his channel will grow exponentially and will hopefully allow him to have farrrr better job security and a far better income. Go Spite Go!
10k lost subs for YN doesn't even tell the full picture. Yeah, he's got 1.1 million subs, but most videos are only doing 20k views. That's shit engagement. If a significant portion of those 10k lost subs are from those active viewers, that's a real problem. Also, despite Spite "only* having 60k subs, he's getting 20-30k views per video, at least since last week. So he's basically already pulling in YN level of views, but with a much higher engagement percentage.
Even though YN/Eric only lost around 10k subscribers, his views are WAY down. For the week Aug 26-Sep1 he had 2.385m views. For the latest week, Sep 23-29, it's down to 1.141m views. That's a severe haemorrhaging in revenue. He'll be losing more revenue than it would have cost to keep Spite/Jake on the books. What a dweeb.
Thanks for the summary. Somehow I missed this four months ago and am just now catching up on all the drama. Subbed to Spites Corner, his new channel is really good!
He got let go very very soon after getting a brand new office/ warehouse…. Makes me feel bad. I guess there can only be one Yammie Noob on Yammie Noob. :(
The thing that irritated me the most was that Yammi went on to say how he hired all these different people to do all this other stuff and then turned around and fired Spite. I followed that channel for about 5 or 6 years however long it's been and immediately unsubscribed and went over to spikes channel. It was a shitty thing for him to do because hes a selfish narcissist. There would have been plenty of opportunity for the 2 of them to continue working with one another and making exceptional videos but it's his loss.
I paused in the middle of this to go and unsubscribe from Yammie Noob. I didn’t know about the yellow Porsche either. And now I’m subscribing to your channel!
Hadn't watched YN since the days of the Porsche Incident. Saw him in my feed recently and was SUPER confused to see he was talking about Harleys. Now I've got the context for that. And now I can go back to not caring.
Great video. Spite's going to come out on top of this. Every ounce of effort he and his friends put into his new videos will be going to him and them. Yammie has had to eat a huge dose of 'you are a complete a hole" pie. from all over the internet. Yammie reads and he sees it. But to his credit, his recent content is showing a renewed emphasis on connecting with other riders. I think Spite may well become every bit as big as Yammie is for a completely different reason. Spite knows what people want to see. Spite remembers what being a broke motorcyclist is like. In the end, if we support the people we like, including you , this will work out for everyone.
Spite is the type of rider that I would like to hang with. Just relaxed and has an appreciation for all bikes rather than creating a list of how to make fun of other riders
I don't think he's an asshole, I think all of you need to grow up and stop imagining that business owners should put themselves last, lol. Seriously, how did you kids come to the conclusion that success should be punished?
@@phil4986 My guy, if Spite thinks he's an asshole, then you got personality conflict, and so firing him was the responsible thing to do given the size of the business, lol. You're making it sound like Spite was only there to take advantage of the bikes and stuff, which would make _him_ the asshole, though I doubt that this is the case either given that his position didn't start out as a job, he was just a helpful discordboi, and that just happened to grow into a job... which is probably more than most of you have ever done in exchange for the help others have offered you over the years.
@@hlaw2830 Spite said nothing of the sort about Yammie being any kind of a hole. As a matter of fact, Spite said directly their were no hard feelings. I said...the internet was calling Yammie an a hole ..... not me personally. Yammies channel is Yammies channel. It's his business and he can make any decision he wants. I am not invested in any internet entertainer. I like Yammie for his quick mind and sharp focus and wit. I like Spite because he's down to earth and someone who focuses on a single subject and really dives into it. That they had to stop working together happens all the time to many people across many trades. I wish them both the best.
That's one thing I really liked about Spite is he was very enthusiastic about Harleys, and he'd ride anything and be honest about it. YN it just feels like he's grasping at straws to give anything to that bike.
aw thanks Marcus - this isn't usually the type of content I provide because my channel is more along the lines of sharing my riding experience as a beginner rider; so hope my past and future content is still watchable for you!
@@KSMotoCafe Even better! As I love hearing stories from new riders. As I first rode a motorbike over 40 years ago. I’m also an ex Australian Superbike racer (with Phillip Island being my home track), who from 250 cc production bikes and all the way up to Superbikes I’ve raced against a total of 6 riders who went on to becoming world champions. I just wasn’t as good as those guys however I can proudly say I’ve finished ahead of each at different events. The most famous of them all was Troy Bayliss. So, I am looking forward to seeing you develop. Yammie is just a person who thinks he’s better than most. I’ve even offered him a chance to prove himself at PI. 😊
id be too embarrassed and ashamed to show my face again if i had a head on with a porsche while unlicensed and uninsured.. then ask the internet for money on top of it... im not sure why these maxwrist types are as popular as they are but whatever.
I was a tier 4 (highest tier sub on YN) been on it since he was riding a r3. Him firing spite made me unsub and unsubscribe from his site. I hope spite does well in his YT career.
@@KSLAMB-uz4it If you spend $10 on a shirt, then pay me $5 to sell it for $20, did you make $5, or did you make $20? Yeah, revenue and profit are not the same thing. I really didn't feel any kind of way about this situation, but goddamn are the people complaining ignorant as hell!
@@hlaw2830 ---- and no matter if it is $5 or $20, someone STILL sent him $20 to help make that $3mil claimed revenue off of which it is assumed he realized some profit - Lamb's question was "why are people sending him money" - NOT "why is he making a profit" - and that question was in regards to JD giving Yammie Douche $1200 a year just to be in his club.
@@bonesrhodes3762 And, my point was that he's _not_ making $3 million per year, but I can answer the question for you anyway: People want to win a motorcycle. Pretty simple, really.
--- there is another upside to this beyond Spite growing his channel - it brought back all the vids of the SPACEX Yammie Douche launch off a Porsche booster
Sup man. I watched YN for a brief minute when I first started riding a couple years ago, but his style didn't appeal to me. Anyways I was sitting here bored cause my replacement rear tire failed to show up yesterday and decided to click your vid. I recognized the roads in a heart beat, nice to see a local vlogger. I'll check out some of your other vids.
lol it is awesome that more local riders are starting to get the feed! I would say the two Ride and Dine episodes have the most local feel, as it presents a restaurant in the CRD and a video about TractionWerks - you may see some riders you know :)
Yammienoob gets 10-40k Max views and he has 1,1 million subscribers thats really bad. Spite gets a lot more views or the same amount with 80k subs that shows his subscribers actually watch his videos while yammies don’t at all! I’m very happy for spite. I hope Josh and Whitney leave Yammie as well.
I am in spite's discord by the way, when a lot of people were asking for details, he simply said to not talk about it as it is just something he doesn't want to talk about, and he simply just wants it behind him and to just move forward. as for dates, the vid that had spites firing before it was taken down was released the day after that vid on the possible Kawasaki hybrid bike to give you a good point of reference of how long its been since he was fired.
well if he wants it behind him then I will respect his wishes and I shall stop fuelling the fire - it is time to move on for me as well anyways. Thank you
Hope to see Spites channel grow, and I'm now subbed to the channel. However, I'm not subbed to YN now, as it won't be the same. Spite is more of a regular dude😎. Yammie is more of a Yuppie. Hey, it could be renamed Yuppie Noob!😆👍😺
I've watched YN casually for years. Mostly because the channel puts out tons of content, with excellent click bait titles. But, he has always struck me as a childish dick. Not a sociopath, just someone who hasn't grown up. Spite was an excellent addition, as he was genuinely likeable. In a lot of ways YN reminds me of what I don't like about some gearheads. Spite strikes me as a genuine nice dude.
The thing that shook me is how he went on and on about how he couldn't afford to keep spite on at his pay. BUT NO discussion on if he personally took a pay cut for hiring 2, TWO, new personnel to take over duties for him and him 'demoting' himself to spites role. He is doing less work and in a lower position. But is he paying himself less? No response, all posts deleted.
148 Kilometers on 11 liters of 91 octane no ethanol added, just put on a new S&S Super E with a new 2 into 1 exhaust. 2004 Roadster 1200 with almost 42,000 kilometers. Still doing seat of the pants dyno adjustments on the S&S.
whoa - your Roadster gets 148km and fills up 11 litres? I guess it makes sense that the fuel economy goes down with higher displacement but I would have guessed it would be smaller difference. Thank you for that. Also Roadster with 2into1 looks so badass!
I didn't unsubscribe from YN but I'm not just not as interested in watching his videos. Turns out when watching Spite's Corner I found that his content, production and presentation style is actually what I liked about YN channel. And what I've noticed from creeping on YN's channel is that they are down 10 of 1000's of views.
thank you all for taking the time to leaving a comment on my previous vlog to share you knowledge on this topic! If I had any of the info wrong, be sure to correct me in the comments!
Appreciate your take on the entire Spite-YN situation, particularly your reliance on facts not so much hearsay. Also, think you are 100% correct that likely in 6 months or maybe a year from now, all of this will have disappeared and youtubers will have effectively moved on. That said, this has to be one of the weirdest scenarios that I have come across in some time.
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Man I just got into motorcycle content because I’ve been looking into buying my first bike and YN was the first person I saw and have been watching a lot of his content and now this XD
lolll yeah that is how I started out as well! I ended up getting the Iron 883 but I got to document many first ride reviews as a beginner rider in my channel because I found there weren't many true "new rider" experience on YT
yeah I don't think leadership is YN's strong suite. thanks for your service Bruce, I served with the Marines few years back and you guys live up to your standards
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Is thier no recognition for doing a great job. I guess not in the Yammie worlg. I also thought loyalty and brotherhood were biker standers.too. Spite you take your true biker spirit and do great things. All the best. Thnx KS for your insight.
I'm new to the motorcycle game, before I got my bike a few months ago there were no motorcycle related channels in my feed/suggested, as I started watching MC content I saw YN pop up every now and then but it was always the clickbait/rank titles, I finally watched a video on his channel of Spite reviewing the KLR 650, decided to try watching some other content of YN's and absolutely couldnt stand it. I enjoy watching spites content, he reminds me of Steve from Gamers Nexus, very calm and down to earth. I hope Spites Corner continues to grow, and I hope FortNine starts putting out longer form content or more frequent content.
I went through a similar cycle of following the same new rider channels until I started my own journey. I still find few channels entertaining but as I gain more experience, my taste changes
Nah I don’t think you made a harsh pre judgement. I remember this dude before the Porsche issue. I unsubscribed during that event. I can’t support people that are that ridiculous. He showed everyone who he is as a person back then. Anyways, great video. Happy you now have more of the details. Hoping Spites channel grows to outshine YN. For fun… you should check Doitwithdan’s video on the Porsche issue. The motorcycle community went hard on YN. Yet he survived. Glad he learned from that PR stunt. Smh.
I mean, I always give respect to those who choose to continue riding after a crash but man his was almost fatal and yet he got back on it almost immediately after recovery. I do believe he (YN) matured a bit (on camera) but you may be right, what you saw in the early days might have been his true self rather than what we see today
@@KSMotoCafe oh I believed he grew up on that childish behavior… yet firing your top employee because he was getting more recognition then you?? What a weird take. It’s counter productive. He claims he’s making all this money… but instead of growing from there… you axe the guy many people have grown to expect from a YN video… yet you are right. The internet has a short memory… YN will recover from this. Unfortunately
I used to enjoy watching the videos with Spite and YN - Eric was generally quite amusing but everything seemed a little too contrived. Spite on the other hand came across as pretty natural and was an excellent foil. I unsubbed from YN because the way his departure was handled just seemed utterly tone deaf. Spite’s Corner really seems to be going from strength to strength.
@@SLIGHT_ It's amazing how all of you geniuses don't know that profit and revenue are completely different things, lol; plus, if you started a business to get away from crunching numbers all day, and then found yourself doing that anyway, it's not childish to make a change, it's childish to expect your boss to put you first, and himself last.
@@hlaw2830obviously they’re different. Nobody is disputing that. The issue is simple… why not build on company by pushing both creators… that would increase the companies revenue while keeping the profit margins either the same if not more. (Assuming you’d need to increase billed hours (employees etc.)). I completely understand this. That’s not the point. The point is… based off his history… he clearly hated the role he got put in… and didn’t want to compete within his company. He even said this… “they started with “who is this spite guy?”… to… “who is this skinny guy?””
I left Yn channel after spite was let go.. spite was the only reason I watched Yn.. never really liked Eric but spite was so much more down to earth and more enjoyable to watch.
Nice quick silent shout out to Shadetree Surgeon at the end! I watch his content a lot, as well as Her Two Wheels. Nice to see you have a blue Sportster similar to mine! 2011 Sportster Nightster 1200 with Vince & Hines pipes, same color! 🙂👍 By the way, I guesstimate my Harley will run 130-140 miles before it runs out of gas. I have the small 3.25 gallon tank, but it runs about 44-46 mpg. I'm looking for a 4.5 gallon EFI tank, but can't find one at a good price. But I usually fill up just before I get to 100 miles. It takes almost 2 gallons sometimes.
haha yeah shadetree is such a genuine motovlog channel I love following them. Plus BrapStar is such a cool brand name. And thanks for sharing your sporty's range - it is always a guessing game for me because I am not sure if I am just not filling up the fuel tank properly
@@KSMotoCafe when I fill up, I stay on the bike to keep it level. I have the flow as slow as possible. I then keep the nozzle just outside the tank opening. When gas is just covering over the fill hole, it’s clear full; put the cap on. Then I reset my trip odometer to keep track as to when I need to fill up again. I know the low gas light works, but I never ran it until it comes on. It’s only several dollars to fill up for me, so I fill up frequently. Usually when I run 60-90 miles, I’ll fill up again. It’s usually a gallon or two at a time for me. But I cruise slow and take my time, I don’t run over 60-65 mph on the interstate. I want everyone to check out my loud Harley, so I cruise slow, relax, and save gas. 🙂👍 Especially when I cruise slowly past the Super Walmart doors, everyone gets a look at the Harley. Lol! 😃😃😂😂🙂🙂👍🇺🇸
@@KSMotoCafe I seen that. I just purchased one a few weeks ago, it's a 3rd bike. Last of the 1200 evos though. Bought it to mod for me and enjoy for short hops.
I don't know how YN got this big in the first place. First time I heard about him, he went headfirst into oncoming traffic riding the way exactly why motorcycle riders get a bad rep. Next, he was making '7 things this...', '9 things that...', videos calling others squid while being one. After that, he was "reviewing" Royal Enfields based off Spec sheet and then when there was backlash, he caved and came in with a half ass 'middle ground' video where he did not have enough balls to stick to what he said or to admit he was a jackass to "review" a bike without even seeing one in flesh.
@@KSMotoCafe They're damn good - well, unless you're a rider who has to do wheelies at 100mph on every green light to prove something. (Source: Have owned and ridden everything from a 1962 Honda 150 to a Victory Kingpin in >50yrs of riding.) Go do a test ride.
Yep. I watched a number of his videos, but never subscribed. I was perversely intrigued by his style, but had a hunch that he's just a dick. Hunch confirmed.
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ok - i need to really try to ride out my sportster to see what the real mileage is because I am also calculating that I have a lot more miles to go after the light turns on
--- and every time I see a clip of it, I can hear Elton John in the background singing: "And I think it's gonna be a long, long time 'Til touchdown brings me 'round again to find I'm not the man they think I am at home Oh, no, no, no I'm a rocket man"
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Yammie tries to crank out 9 videos per week and most of them are crappy videos of him dumping on different types of bikes and bikers. He should focus on something positive for the bike community. I hope Spite's channel continues to grow.
at first I found those lists amusing because I had no clue about the riding community but once I developed my own experience, I realized YN's content wasn't for me
Eric (yn) taking down the terrible firing video should be everything anyone needs to know. I'm happy spite is keeping on making content. His videos are better than Eric's. Imo.
@@hlaw2830 Obviously. Poor CEO of a 250k revenue a month company, he just wants to be a humble video production manager and mean old spite was in his way. He didn't ask for this, we should start a Patreon.
@@VIP-ry6vv LLCs don't have CEOs (or CFOs, he hired an accountant), and revenue is meaningless in a vacuum. Like, in 2019 Walmart did $514 billion in revenue, but only made $6.67 billion in profit, while those poor exploited employees took home $67 billion, lol. YNYT probably has better margins than 1.3%, but that would come out to just $3,250/mo. Successful people aren't evil and greedy, people like you are, my guy.
@@hlaw2830 oh shit. Here I was assuming you were being sarcastic for humor. You obviously didn't see the firing video or you would have perceived my sarcasm instantly. Carry on with your serious internet business Mr. H stands for "Hitler did nothing wrong." Law.
YN hates Harley Davidson. He always has. YN thinks he is the supreme motorcycle rider because he rides track. YN talks trash about “Street Rossi” riders but never mentions his Street Rossi crash.
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I've been following Yammie since before the Porsche incident. All the people say that Yammie wasn't gonna go to 1 milion subscribers if it wasn't for Spite are wrong, he had a plan that started when he decided to start the giveaways, and even before that he was one of the top dogs in motovlogging on youtube. I like Spite but if it wasn't for the last video where Yammie said "go subscribe to Spite's corner" he would have never gained subs so quickly. Probablly some from the drama of him disappearing from Yammie noob.
I too had been subbed to YN in the earlier days (before the Porsche crash) and I agree that Spite isn't the sole reason for the channel's success, but the business decision to hire Spite was keen because it allowed YN to grow with his audience. The sophomoric moto-bro approach that got YN on the map 7+ years ago is less appealing to the bulk of his subs these days, so featuring Spite brought a more mature style which also let Eric do his thing to an extent. I disagree that Yammie telling people to sub to Spite's Corner was a huge boost.. I doubt many people made it to the end of that video due to the cringe factor. I'm guessing that most viewers (myself included) subbed to Spite's Corner way before the end of that video.
firing spite and saying theres no spots to keep him at Ym, then hiring an intern to do that job shows yammie/eric didnt want to pay Spite the amount he is worth. spite got me into Ym not eric. i know whitney and josh are becoming very popular over there so if this happens to them down the line i wouldnt be suprised. Yammie shouldve just come clean about the real reasons why he fired him and i think peple wouldve repsected that more then some bs lets make a vid and shit on you. Edit : also this vid just popped up for me new sub here
I'm glad I watched this. I had no idea of YN's reckless past even though there were enough markers to point to it. It seemed a bit odd to let Spite go and this explains why. I will certainly be one of the 10K leaving YN.
just like back in the crash days - I only found YN videos because of others talking about him, and giving him airtime. I never sub'd because of the stuff you mentioned and his attitude towards his responsibility for the crash. I never new anything about Spite, until I heard he got fired.... because I never followed. Only find the best gossip when others talk about it.
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Anyone else notice that video didn’t stay up long at all from YN 🤨 like it went down very quickly it went down when i was watching it and it was only a few hours after its upload
Honestly I hope some of the other YN interns leave and join up with Spite. Josh seemed like a cool guy, I'm not too sure of what all he did there besides the limited videos he showed up in and the girl that was on a good handful of bike rides and even did a video with Josh checking out I believe a Chinese entry level sports bike has good energy and Spite and her work pretty well together from what we've seen. YN has proven himself an actual ass on more than one occasion now. Not just a joking ass for views, but a true one unfortunately.
@@KSMotoCafe yea I didn't mean right now, but even if they appeared on his (they would probably have to leave YN first, I don't see it happening) but you're right maybe I. The future
Spite was about the only reason I was subscribed to YN. I stayed subbed for a few days after this all went down, but the YN videos are just not interesting. Dude isn't interesting... He comes off like that guy at a party who tries to insert themselves into conversations going on around them and make those conversations about themselves. I legitimately feel like IRL he would be one of the few people that I just cannot stand to be around. And Spite... well, he seems like the kind of guy you could just have a beer with and shoot the shit. His videos come across as well researched and coming from someone who is experienced enough to know what they are talking about (or capable of educating themselves when they don't), but humble enough to not think they are some sort of rockstar. Like you said, this isn't going to kill the YN channel, and months from now most of his audience probably won't even remember it. But hopefully months from now Spite's channel will be going strong and I can say "I was here when he only had 2500 subscribers" lol
Honestly, the drama was probably the best thing to happen to spite actually if you think about it. His channel is growing super fast and he has a strong core audience who will keep his view counts relatively high. But really the classy move would have been to amicably split and cross promote spites channel for three months. Help him to a 100k subs and kept a friend. Instead, he went full Chad.
yeah in the long run, I think Spite will appreciate this move of independence
Try not to use words like ''chad'' you dont understand please.... try asshat istead or something like that...
I personally love Yam's incoherent wordsmithing. I have no idea what he's saying but i 100% read him loud and clear. That said Spite grew on me and I support the boy... even if he likes adv bikes.
Chad? CHAD?? TO DESCRIBE YAMMIE NOOB?
Bro, that was the most bitch move I've seen in a while. That's what a weak ass beta pussy would do.
I watched Yammie Noob because of Spite! So I'm actually quite happy he got to be independent... and I'm not even into cruisers or HD...
YN is a narcissist. Imagine posting a video telling the world that you fired your best employee because you wanted their job even though they were a huge part of your success. Then YN was shocked that people weren't on his side. The guy is out of touch with reality. I'm one of the 10k that unsubscribed from him and subscribed to Spites Corner.
Not only that but he would leave smart ass replies as if people are stupid for disagreeing with him
I completely forgot about him after the whole crash bs and wasn't until KS posted I remember he was a piece of work.
10k out of over a million is a drop in the bucket . Now I'm not happy for the change either but if yall liked spite so much why weren't you subbed to his channel before this happened lol
@@mrtree1368 not all of us live on the internet.. i didn't even know spite had a channel until all this nonsense.
I watched yammie a tiny bit a few years ago but really quickly got tired of him. Only ones I could stand had spite take a lead roll in them before even that got enough and I basically just blocked the channel completely. So glad Spite has his own stuff now
Before Spite, YN was putting hentai stickers on a bike he couldnt fix and was 100% out of content.
Whaaat? there is so much to unpack here. Yammie would try to fix other people's bikes? or his own bike?
@@KSMotoCafe After the porche wreck he didnt really have a means of generating motorcycle content so he would do videos making fun of shitty craigslist bikes n stuff, but that got old fast, so he bought an old Hornet to clean up and get running for content. He took a poll on what to paint the tank and people told him to cover it in hentai stickers, so he did. But ultimately, getting the bike running was beyond his ability...enter Spite. Spite started showing up here or there, helped get things running and made up for YN mechanical shortfalls and inability to ride. This is what makes Spite's firing so f-ing bad. YN was floundering HARD prior to Spite. Spite helped him next level it. I've been watching YN since his first post on his brand new Yamaha R3, hence the Yammie Noob name. Im not saying he owes it all to spite, but he owes at least half his success if not more. Watch Spites Corner, it feels like YN while when you now watch YN now it feels bland and meh. The heavy lifting that gave YN time and breathing room to be funny and creative WAS Spite. It was such a d1ck move and a really bad business decision. IMO they both kinda need each other, theyre better together than apart. Ride safe!
holy shit what a back story!! thanks man
didnt Yammie even say that in one video?
No bro. Spit contemplated shoeacide before strapping on his ho heels.
I honestly hope we DON'T see a collab between Spite and Yam. Spite doesn't need it, and Yam would only regard it as vindication.
The best thing we can all do right now is help get Spite up to 100K subs as fast as possible. This will get him the clout he really needs for his channel to start attracting the attention of serious sponsors so that he can comfortably keep on making content full time, and get him on the right side of the algorythm to get his channel pushed and start generating even MORE subs.
When you stop and think about it, Yam may actually have done Spite a favor here. Spite would still just be collecting a paycheck from that egomaniac if this hadn't gone down. Spite's corner would still be an unknown channel, and we'd still be getting a version of Spite that had been run through a Yammie Noob filter.
I think Spite will feel more free by having the independence to create his own fan base that belongs to his name
In fairness, they both have some strengths and a lot of weaknesses. Both will suck more now that they’re not filling the gaps each have. It’s gone from bad to worse.
this is an interesting take
@@ryanmalone2681 I can't agree. So far, I think the greatest weakness Spite has is simply not being a big enough channel to pull in the big sponsors and the big views. And I think that is going to change pretty quickly.
Spite doing a collab with Josh aka Shadetree Surgeon however, could do wonders
I think they'd get along pretty well
What got me was right before Spite got canned YN had released a video about their new digs. Spit was stoked about the garage he had helped design and setup and was talking about how much he was looking forward to working on bikes. I honestly thought maybe YN was going to stretch into featuring mods or maybe even start doing customs or whatever. You could clearly see Spite was excited. Then about a week later the video came out of Spite being canned. I instantly unsubscribed from YN and subscribed to Spite's corner. Seriously, Spite was the whole reason I was watching YN in the first place. Absolutely love his bike reviews.
aww man that makes me sad for Spite 😢
Spite made the show more watchable. He evened out the energy and was very professional. YN is very weird by himself... he needs a counterbalance and Spite was it .
I agree
Spite and Whitney were the best parts of the channel.
@@Telecasterland Yeah, and you'll notice that he has Whitney on his modest list of Spite-Approved content, in a bit of a hat-tip to her own videos. They seemed to work well, together, like well-adjusted siblings, being mutually open, and encouraging, while each respectfully allowing the other to stick-up for their own opinions, and "takes," on various things. I also think that it's good to have a woman chiming-in, on various bikes, since it can act as an encouragement for more women to think about getting-into riding, thus expanding the market.
Bummer, too bad Yammie's sub count can't go down by 100K.
I am pretty sure if he had the original video up, it would have been -100k easily. It irked even the most loyal fans
Here’s my cut and dry assessment. Eric was the “CEO” of YN. Which is completely understandable, Spite is his employee and Eric wanted to keep the money the way it was in the beginning. The problem here is spite built that channel quite a bit and honestly from the viewer POV YN channel wouldn’t be anywhere close to what it is today without him. So I can see there being a contractual problem now. Spite wants to be compensated accordingly and Eric doesn’t want to give up any of his earnings to pay spite more. Personally Eric should have sold out a percentage of the company to spite, raising his salary, but also raising his liability the company too. This way Eric has his money, keeps his golden child to help build it more, and nothing really changes. Spite makes more money and everyone is happy. I just think Eric is greedy, which is what everyone has been saying.
pretty good assessment!
Before Spite, he was around 200k subs. If I remember correctly, Spite initially was a viewer who was local to YN and started helping the YN channel.
Also, I've always wondered what kind of person would want to be known as the yamaha noob.... especially after the porsche incident.
@@al6r725 yea i never knew about the porsche incident. Really only knew their was a bad crash in his past but I didnt start getting into motorcycle content until late 2021 anyways so i missed all that. I think if Spite can keep his relationships with the companies he's dealt with while at YN, I think his channel has potential to grow quickly. The problem is, he helped YN grow to where it is now and probably gave them lots of the ideas for things like giveaways and stores and etc. So if he tries to do the same thing, it will look like hes trying to copy YN. So he does need to keep it original while also sticking to what he does best. It will take time but his channel will do well I think.
@@al6r725 yea Spite was like a random dude that started to help with Harley stuff if I remember. YN wanted to do Harley videos and Spite said he’d help.
Honestly Spite was the only person on the YN channel worth watching. I hadn't been subscribed for a long time before this because I find the YN personality to be annoying, but I'd watch the occasional video featuring Spite and his thoughts on whatever bike he was riding. I'm happy to never have to return to YNs channel and now I can just be subbed to Spites corner.
agreed!
Agree yn has an annoying voice for me. And spite is about the same build as me so he's who I was following on the yn channel. Spite was spot on with he's review of the z650 at the time I was using one myself to go through my license. He had the same views as myself so quite glad to have found spites corner as now I can watch just the content creator I'm after
@@hexsymbol2229 Yep, because, as to ergos, and what does or doesn't work for him, you can more-readily make determinations of what might or might not bw good, for-you. Some big guys are simply a scrunched-up on bikes that are too-small, just as a short-inseam person is not gonna be able to flat-foot a tall-clearance bike.
A lot of the old videos aren't around anymore, but the Porsche incident wasn't even the first time he acted with a ridiculous level of narcissism. It wasn't his first major crash, either. Yammie Noob has always been like this, so this definitely won't be the last time he does something selfish that makes people realize his true character. Since his channel is geared towards new riders, he continues to get new subscribers who don't have a clue about the history of his channel or his patterns of narcissism.
damn so deceptive!
Yeah I thought his channel was done after the accident, but he made a big comeback with his top ten lists videos lol. He'll probably return to that type of content.
I am really happy for Spite, his on camera presence and work ethic will only mean his channel will grow exponentially and will hopefully allow him to have farrrr better job security and a far better income.
Go Spite Go!
10k lost subs for YN doesn't even tell the full picture. Yeah, he's got 1.1 million subs, but most videos are only doing 20k views. That's shit engagement. If a significant portion of those 10k lost subs are from those active viewers, that's a real problem. Also, despite Spite "only* having 60k subs, he's getting 20-30k views per video, at least since last week. So he's basically already pulling in YN level of views, but with a much higher engagement percentage.
lol and here I am happy with 100 views and super excited if videos go over 1k 😂😢...😭
You’ve hit the nail on the head. The ratio of views to subscribers tells the real story here.
Even though YN/Eric only lost around 10k subscribers, his views are WAY down. For the week Aug 26-Sep1 he had 2.385m views. For the latest week, Sep 23-29, it's down to 1.141m views. That's a severe haemorrhaging in revenue. He'll be losing more revenue than it would have cost to keep Spite/Jake on the books. What a dweeb.
whoa yeah those are significant drops and if his new content doesn't get attention, Yt will stop pushing his content to others
Thanks for the summary. Somehow I missed this four months ago and am just now catching up on all the drama. Subbed to Spites Corner, his new channel is really good!
Thanks for the advanced report on this situation, KS. You answered a lot of unanswered questions! Subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
I liked how you circled and checked Shadetree, love that guy
😎🤟
He got let go very very soon after getting a brand new office/ warehouse…. Makes me feel bad. I guess there can only be one Yammie Noob on Yammie Noob. :(
it's better for Spite in the long run - especially if he was only getting paid a salary and not a percentage of profit
The thing that irritated me the most was that Yammi went on to say how he hired all these different people to do all this other stuff and then turned around and fired Spite. I followed that channel for about 5 or 6 years however long it's been and immediately unsubscribed and went over to spikes channel. It was a shitty thing for him to do because hes a selfish narcissist. There would have been plenty of opportunity for the 2 of them to continue working with one another and making exceptional videos but it's his loss.
HE should have just had a section called spite's corner and partnered with him. Gave him his own spotlight and grow the business. WHAT A BAD MOVE
now that would have been way better
Never was a fan of yammy but I always enjoyed the videos with Spite on the YN channel, glad spite has is own separate platform now tbh way better
same here
I paused in the middle of this to go and unsubscribe from Yammie Noob. I didn’t know about the yellow Porsche either.
And now I’m subscribing to your channel!
Hadn't watched YN since the days of the Porsche Incident. Saw him in my feed recently and was SUPER confused to see he was talking about Harleys.
Now I've got the context for that. And now I can go back to not caring.
Great video.
Spite's going to come out on top of this.
Every ounce of effort he and his friends put into his new videos will be going to him and them.
Yammie has had to eat a huge dose of 'you are a complete a hole" pie. from all over the internet.
Yammie reads and he sees it.
But to his credit, his recent content is showing a renewed emphasis on connecting with other riders.
I think Spite may well become every bit as big as Yammie is for a completely different reason.
Spite knows what people want to see.
Spite remembers what being a broke motorcyclist is like.
In the end, if we support the people we like, including you , this will work out for everyone.
Spite is the type of rider that I would like to hang with. Just relaxed and has an appreciation for all bikes rather than creating a list of how to make fun of other riders
I don't think he's an asshole, I think all of you need to grow up and stop imagining that business owners should put themselves last, lol. Seriously, how did you kids come to the conclusion that success should be punished?
@@hlaw2830 ask Spite.
@@phil4986 My guy, if Spite thinks he's an asshole, then you got personality conflict, and so firing him was the responsible thing to do given the size of the business, lol. You're making it sound like Spite was only there to take advantage of the bikes and stuff, which would make _him_ the asshole, though I doubt that this is the case either given that his position didn't start out as a job, he was just a helpful discordboi, and that just happened to grow into a job... which is probably more than most of you have ever done in exchange for the help others have offered you over the years.
@@hlaw2830 Spite said nothing of the sort about Yammie being any kind of a hole. As a matter of fact, Spite said directly their were no hard feelings.
I said...the internet was calling Yammie an a hole ..... not me personally. Yammies channel is Yammies channel. It's his business and he can make any decision he wants. I am not invested in any internet entertainer. I like Yammie for his quick mind and sharp focus and wit. I like Spite because he's down to earth and someone who focuses on a single subject and really dives into it. That they had to stop working together happens all the time to many people across many trades. I wish them both the best.
That's one thing I really liked about Spite is he was very enthusiastic about Harleys, and he'd ride anything and be honest about it. YN it just feels like he's grasping at straws to give anything to that bike.
Yammie definitely had a type he liked - fast & cheap bike or a ducati. Spite was a good balance
Spite would spend 20mins taking about how a primitive bike had soul. Then rip on an actually good bike🙄
Bravo Zulu man just found this channel good to see a TH-camr so close
thanks brother! it is nice to see locals chiming in!
Your channel is blowing up! You're doing s great job and keep up the great content. Eric
Well said. Just subscribed to your channel purely based on this honest and humble video. Looking forward to watching more. 👍😎🇦🇺
aw thanks Marcus - this isn't usually the type of content I provide because my channel is more along the lines of sharing my riding experience as a beginner rider; so hope my past and future content is still watchable for you!
@@KSMotoCafe Even better! As I love hearing stories from new riders. As I first rode a motorbike over 40 years ago. I’m also an ex Australian Superbike racer (with Phillip Island being my home track), who from 250 cc production bikes and all the way up to Superbikes I’ve raced against a total of 6 riders who went on to becoming world champions. I just wasn’t as good as those guys however I can proudly say I’ve finished ahead of each at different events. The most famous of them all was Troy Bayliss. So, I am looking forward to seeing you develop. Yammie is just a person who thinks he’s better than most. I’ve even offered him a chance to prove himself at PI. 😊
id be too embarrassed and ashamed to show my face again if i had a head on with a porsche while unlicensed and uninsured.. then ask the internet for money on top of it... im not sure why these maxwrist types are as popular as they are but whatever.
thanks for posting this, i didnt realize how consistent eric was in this.
yeah, it seems like a pattern that he tends to repeat..
@@KSMotoCafe disappointing to see it affect spites career but its nice to see he's at 80k rn
I am one of those unsubscribers, but I replaced it by subscribing to Spites channel.
right on!
same
I was a tier 4 (highest tier sub on YN) been on it since he was riding a r3. Him firing spite made me unsub and unsubscribe from his site. I hope spite does well in his YT career.
Yammie says he makes 3 million a year. Why are people giving him their money?
wow that was a big commitment!
@@KSLAMB-uz4it If you spend $10 on a shirt, then pay me $5 to sell it for $20, did you make $5, or did you make $20? Yeah, revenue and profit are not the same thing. I really didn't feel any kind of way about this situation, but goddamn are the people complaining ignorant as hell!
@@hlaw2830 ---- and no matter if it is $5 or $20, someone STILL sent him $20 to help make that $3mil claimed revenue off of which it is assumed he realized some profit - Lamb's question was "why are people sending him money" - NOT "why is he making a profit" - and that question was in regards to JD giving Yammie Douche $1200 a year just to be in his club.
@@bonesrhodes3762 And, my point was that he's _not_ making $3 million per year, but I can answer the question for you anyway: People want to win a motorcycle. Pretty simple, really.
--- there is another upside to this beyond Spite growing his channel - it brought back all the vids of the SPACEX Yammie Douche launch off a Porsche booster
🤣🤣🤣
Sup man. I watched YN for a brief minute when I first started riding a couple years ago, but his style didn't appeal to me. Anyways I was sitting here bored cause my replacement rear tire failed to show up yesterday and decided to click your vid. I recognized the roads in a heart beat, nice to see a local vlogger. I'll check out some of your other vids.
lol it is awesome that more local riders are starting to get the feed! I would say the two Ride and Dine episodes have the most local feel, as it presents a restaurant in the CRD and a video about TractionWerks - you may see some riders you know :)
Yammienoob gets 10-40k Max views and he has 1,1 million subscribers thats really bad.
Spite gets a lot more views or the same amount with 80k subs that shows his subscribers actually watch his videos while yammies don’t at all! I’m very happy for spite. I hope Josh and Whitney leave Yammie as well.
$20 for 2.8 gallons?! Whyyy
I am in spite's discord by the way, when a lot of people were asking for details, he simply said to not talk about it as it is just something he doesn't want to talk about, and he simply just wants it behind him and to just move forward. as for dates, the vid that had spites firing before it was taken down was released the day after that vid on the possible Kawasaki hybrid bike to give you a good point of reference of how long its been since he was fired.
well if he wants it behind him then I will respect his wishes and I shall stop fuelling the fire - it is time to move on for me as well anyways. Thank you
Hey bud, grab a paper towel from besides the bowser when fueling up as a splash/drip protector.
Works a treat
This is what I was afraid of doing from my past:
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WTF I see what you mean. That was a geyser!
Cheers mate
YN not only ran into a Porsche. But before that he also had another accident flying into a boulder. So he might not be all there mentally.
jesus how much dirt is on this guy!
Hope to see Spites channel grow, and I'm now subbed to the channel. However, I'm not subbed to YN now, as it won't be the same. Spite is more of a regular dude😎. Yammie is more of a Yuppie. Hey, it could be renamed Yuppie Noob!😆👍😺
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Good video, thank you for the info!
I've watched YN casually for years. Mostly because the channel puts out tons of content, with excellent click bait titles. But, he has always struck me as a childish dick. Not a sociopath, just someone who hasn't grown up. Spite was an excellent addition, as he was genuinely likeable. In a lot of ways YN reminds me of what I don't like about some gearheads. Spite strikes me as a genuine nice dude.
that is a really good way to explain the two hosts.
The thing that shook me is how he went on and on about how he couldn't afford to keep spite on at his pay. BUT NO discussion on if he personally took a pay cut for hiring 2, TWO, new personnel to take over duties for him and him 'demoting' himself to spites role.
He is doing less work and in a lower position. But is he paying himself less? No response, all posts deleted.
he doesnt even look that happy to do the work on camera lately!
148 Kilometers on 11 liters of 91 octane no ethanol added, just put on a new S&S Super E with a new 2 into 1 exhaust. 2004 Roadster 1200 with almost 42,000 kilometers. Still doing seat of the pants dyno adjustments on the S&S.
whoa - your Roadster gets 148km and fills up 11 litres? I guess it makes sense that the fuel economy goes down with higher displacement but I would have guessed it would be smaller difference. Thank you for that. Also Roadster with 2into1 looks so badass!
I didn't unsubscribe from YN but I'm not just not as interested in watching his videos. Turns out when watching Spite's Corner I found that his content, production and presentation style is actually what I liked about YN channel. And what I've noticed from creeping on YN's channel is that they are down 10 of 1000's of views.
I am still subbed to YN to watch how it all turns out
I am still subbed to yammie, but only because of Whitney.
And o got to love how she gives him cheek.
Time to unsub 😉
@@robertholland7558 On Spite's Corner, he has Whitney's own channel on his small list of Spite-Approved content, where you can catch her, on-there.
@@johnstanley7442 yes a discovered the Whitney and Megan shows. Those girls are something different.
thank you all for taking the time to leaving a comment on my previous vlog to share you knowledge on this topic! If I had any of the info wrong, be sure to correct me in the comments!
didn't know that Spite is a guitar player, hope for the best to his new venture.
Nice video, and beautiful area. Are you in the Okanagan?
Thank you - actually I am on Vancouver Island (the island across from Seattle in Canada)
Appreciate your take on the entire Spite-YN situation, particularly your reliance on facts not so much hearsay. Also, think you are 100% correct that likely in 6 months or maybe a year from now, all of this will have disappeared and youtubers will have effectively moved on. That said, this has to be one of the weirdest scenarios that I have come across in some time.
What brand are those gloves you’re wearing?
they are super comfortable and have ton of protection. the company also gave me a 10% coupon code to give to my viewers
code: KSMOTO10
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Awesome thank you 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 and love the video!
thanks for enjoying it!
Man I just got into motorcycle content because I’ve been looking into buying my first bike and YN was the first person I saw and have been watching a lot of his content and now this XD
lolll yeah that is how I started out as well! I ended up getting the Iron 883 but I got to document many first ride reviews as a beginner rider in my channel because I found there weren't many true "new rider" experience on YT
Basic leadership was YN's downfall. In the Marines we were taught, Praise in public & condemn in private.
yeah I don't think leadership is YN's strong suite. thanks for your service Bruce, I served with the Marines few years back and you guys live up to your standards
Yammi "support" was cover for his dumping Spite. Horray for Spite.
9l fill up on '05 Sporty. about normal. Thanks for the extra info.
I am always second guessing if I am filling the tank to full because everytime I fill up, it is below 10L but I also fill up soon after the light turns on
I couldn’t keep watching YN after this, I tried and it just felt off
definitely left a sour taste
Totally unrelated to the topic but what gloves are those you’re rocking?
they are Fogy Garage gloves. I had a fall a week after this video (you can check it out in the recent uploads) and these gloves saved my skin!
Also vendor gave me a discount code to give out. You can get additional 10% discount if you use the code:KSMOTO10
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Does Yammie have cancer? If not, why does he intentionally look like that?
Is thier no recognition for doing a great job. I guess not in the Yammie worlg. I also thought loyalty and brotherhood were biker standers.too. Spite you take your true biker spirit and do great things. All the best. Thnx KS for your insight.
some people just don't have that in them to appreciate other's good work because to they are entitled
I'm new to the motorcycle game, before I got my bike a few months ago there were no motorcycle related channels in my feed/suggested, as I started watching MC content I saw YN pop up every now and then but it was always the clickbait/rank titles, I finally watched a video on his channel of Spite reviewing the KLR 650, decided to try watching some other content of YN's and absolutely couldnt stand it. I enjoy watching spites content, he reminds me of Steve from Gamers Nexus, very calm and down to earth. I hope Spites Corner continues to grow, and I hope FortNine starts putting out longer form content or more frequent content.
I went through a similar cycle of following the same new rider channels until I started my own journey. I still find few channels entertaining but as I gain more experience, my taste changes
Did YammieNoob take down the original video, I can’t find it anywhere?
yup
Nah I don’t think you made a harsh pre judgement.
I remember this dude before the Porsche issue. I unsubscribed during that event. I can’t support people that are that ridiculous. He showed everyone who he is as a person back then.
Anyways, great video. Happy you now have more of the details. Hoping Spites channel grows to outshine YN.
For fun… you should check Doitwithdan’s video on the Porsche issue. The motorcycle community went hard on YN. Yet he survived. Glad he learned from that PR stunt. Smh.
I mean, I always give respect to those who choose to continue riding after a crash but man his was almost fatal and yet he got back on it almost immediately after recovery. I do believe he (YN) matured a bit (on camera) but you may be right, what you saw in the early days might have been his true self rather than what we see today
@@KSMotoCafe oh I believed he grew up on that childish behavior… yet firing your top employee because he was getting more recognition then you?? What a weird take. It’s counter productive. He claims he’s making all this money… but instead of growing from there… you axe the guy many people have grown to expect from a YN video… yet you are right. The internet has a short memory… YN will recover from this. Unfortunately
I used to enjoy watching the videos with Spite and YN - Eric was generally quite amusing but everything seemed a little too contrived. Spite on the other hand came across as pretty natural and was an excellent foil.
I unsubbed from YN because the way his departure was handled just seemed utterly tone deaf.
Spite’s Corner really seems to be going from strength to strength.
@@SLIGHT_ It's amazing how all of you geniuses don't know that profit and revenue are completely different things, lol; plus, if you started a business to get away from crunching numbers all day, and then found yourself doing that anyway, it's not childish to make a change, it's childish to expect your boss to put you first, and himself last.
@@hlaw2830obviously they’re different. Nobody is disputing that. The issue is simple… why not build on company by pushing both creators… that would increase the companies revenue while keeping the profit margins either the same if not more. (Assuming you’d need to increase billed hours (employees etc.)). I completely understand this. That’s not the point.
The point is… based off his history… he clearly hated the role he got put in… and didn’t want to compete within his company. He even said this… “they started with “who is this spite guy?”… to… “who is this skinny guy?””
Just unfollowed yn & gave spite a follow instead . Childish?? Yes , yes I am 😂
I left Yn channel after spite was let go.. spite was the only reason I watched Yn.. never really liked Eric but spite was so much more down to earth and more enjoyable to watch.
hey man, much better editing between the cameras, good job dude :D feels less intensive on the eyes.
phew~ thanks man - I need more viewers to criticize my editing because it is nearly impossible to know how others feel about it.
Hi, what kind of handlebars are you using?
Thanks.
the handlebar is stock iron 883 bars but it is on a 4" riser that I installed in my first year
Good insight 👍
Nice quick silent shout out to Shadetree Surgeon at the end! I watch his content a lot, as well as Her Two Wheels. Nice to see you have a blue Sportster similar to mine! 2011 Sportster Nightster 1200 with Vince & Hines pipes, same color! 🙂👍 By the way, I guesstimate my Harley will run 130-140 miles before it runs out of gas. I have the small 3.25 gallon tank, but it runs about 44-46 mpg. I'm looking for a 4.5 gallon EFI tank, but can't find one at a good price. But I usually fill up just before I get to 100 miles. It takes almost 2 gallons sometimes.
haha yeah shadetree is such a genuine motovlog channel I love following them. Plus BrapStar is such a cool brand name. And thanks for sharing your sporty's range - it is always a guessing game for me because I am not sure if I am just not filling up the fuel tank properly
@@KSMotoCafe when I fill up, I stay on the bike to keep it level. I have the flow as slow as possible. I then keep the nozzle just outside the tank opening. When gas is just covering over the fill hole, it’s clear full; put the cap on. Then I reset my trip odometer to keep track as to when I need to fill up again. I know the low gas light works, but I never ran it until it comes on. It’s only several dollars to fill up for me, so I fill up frequently. Usually when I run 60-90 miles, I’ll fill up again. It’s usually a gallon or two at a time for me. But I cruise slow and take my time, I don’t run over 60-65 mph on the interstate. I want everyone to check out my loud Harley, so I cruise slow, relax, and save gas. 🙂👍 Especially when I cruise slowly past the Super Walmart doors, everyone gets a look at the Harley. Lol! 😃😃😂😂🙂🙂👍🇺🇸
Yeah, Spite has a great channel. Tammie Noob has always been drama. Thanks for sharing new sub.
lol Tammie Swanson
@@KSMotoCafe I wondered if anyone would catch that. Hahaha. 😜😆
I like your bike, I'm a fan of Sportsters. Looks clean.
Thanks! I have been doing an owner's review each year I have owned it (2 years so far)
@@KSMotoCafe I seen that. I just purchased one a few weeks ago, it's a 3rd bike. Last of the 1200 evos though. Bought it to mod for me and enjoy for short hops.
@@grayghost1423 oh yeah you will love its modability - yup made up that word but I think it works 😅. Congrats on owning a new bike!
More people should see this video!
The gas light on my Vulcan comes one when the tank is still almost half full. So annoying!
man I know the feeling!
I don't know how YN got this big in the first place. First time I heard about him, he went headfirst into oncoming traffic riding the way exactly why motorcycle riders get a bad rep. Next, he was making '7 things this...', '9 things that...', videos calling others squid while being one. After that, he was "reviewing" Royal Enfields based off Spec sheet and then when there was backlash, he caved and came in with a half ass 'middle ground' video where he did not have enough balls to stick to what he said or to admit he was a jackass to "review" a bike without even seeing one in flesh.
I still have yet to ride a Royal Enfield. They look like classic bikes and are really cheap, are they good?
@@KSMotoCafe They're damn good - well, unless you're a rider who has to do wheelies at 100mph on every green light to prove something. (Source: Have owned and ridden everything from a 1962 Honda 150 to a Victory Kingpin in >50yrs of riding.) Go do a test ride.
Yep. I watched a number of his videos, but never subscribed. I was perversely intrigued by his style, but had a hunch that he's just a dick. Hunch confirmed.
@@KSMotoCafe they are very good. They are just a basic fun motorcycle.
By the way, I was on the Discord when Yammie announced his firing. It was about two weeks before that video came out.
that is what I was thinking when I saw those comment posts few weeks prior to the YN video
Hey man, what kind of gloves are those? Thx
These are gloves from Fogy Garage (pretty new company). they are super comfortable and have ton of protection. the company also gave me a 10% coupon code to give to my viewers
code: KSMOTO10
fogygarage.com/collections/gloves-1/products/ursus-chief-gloves-sand
@@KSMotoCafe Right on dude, thanks!!
I get between 100-120 miles. My gas light comes on between 70-80 miles depending on how hard I ride.
ok - i need to really try to ride out my sportster to see what the real mileage is because I am also calculating that I have a lot more miles to go after the light turns on
I unsubbed a while ago when I found out I needed to pay for a discord server to connect with other bikes like what💀😂
The "Porsche Incident" wasn't even his first.
--- and every time I see a clip of it, I can hear Elton John in the background singing:
"And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
'Til touchdown brings me 'round again to find
I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh, no, no, no
I'm a rocket man"
if I had that kind of accident- I would not be able to get back on a bike
What kind of gloves are those?
they are super comfortable and have ton of protection. the company also gave me a 10% coupon code to give to my viewers
code: KSMOTO10
fogygarage.com/collections/gloves-1/products/ursus-chief-gloves-sand
Yammie tries to crank out 9 videos per week and most of them are crappy videos of him dumping on different types of bikes and bikers. He should focus on something positive for the bike community.
I hope Spite's channel continues to grow.
at first I found those lists amusing because I had no clue about the riding community but once I developed my own experience, I realized YN's content wasn't for me
@@KSMotoCafe Exactly, I've been riding for about 15 months and came to a similar realization.
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
Eric (yn) taking down the terrible firing video should be everything anyone needs to know. I'm happy spite is keeping on making content. His videos are better than Eric's. Imo.
💯 agree
He took it down because he didn't realize how hysterically ignorant all of you are, bruh.
@@hlaw2830 Obviously. Poor CEO of a 250k revenue a month company, he just wants to be a humble video production manager and mean old spite was in his way. He didn't ask for this, we should start a Patreon.
@@VIP-ry6vv LLCs don't have CEOs (or CFOs, he hired an accountant), and revenue is meaningless in a vacuum. Like, in 2019 Walmart did $514 billion in revenue, but only made $6.67 billion in profit, while those poor exploited employees took home $67 billion, lol. YNYT probably has better margins than 1.3%, but that would come out to just $3,250/mo. Successful people aren't evil and greedy, people like you are, my guy.
@@hlaw2830 oh shit. Here I was assuming you were being sarcastic for humor. You obviously didn't see the firing video or you would have perceived my sarcasm instantly. Carry on with your serious internet business Mr. H stands for "Hitler did nothing wrong." Law.
YN hates Harley Davidson. He always has.
YN thinks he is the supreme motorcycle rider because he rides track.
YN talks trash about “Street Rossi” riders but never mentions his Street Rossi crash.
that is what annoys me - he just looks down on everyone
I dig those gloves, man. Who makes them?
they are super comfortable and have ton of protection. the company also gave me a 10% coupon code to give to my viewers
code: KSMOTO10
fogygarage.com/collections/gloves-1/products/ursus-chief-gloves-sand
Obviously people started liking spite more than him , and instead of being about his friends success he got jealous
Im here for spite. It's too bad YN deleted that video as a lot of people still done know about sprites channel. Get subbed people
What town is this bro? I love seeing so many people out on bikes and motorbikes.
Victoria, BC in Canada!
@@KSMotoCafe oh no way? I have visited before. So awesome.
I've been following Yammie since before the Porsche incident. All the people say that Yammie wasn't gonna go to 1 milion subscribers if it wasn't for Spite are wrong, he had a plan that started when he decided to start the giveaways, and even before that he was one of the top dogs in motovlogging on youtube. I like Spite but if it wasn't for the last video where Yammie said "go subscribe to Spite's corner" he would have never gained subs so quickly. Probablly some from the drama of him disappearing from Yammie noob.
I too had been subbed to YN in the earlier days (before the Porsche crash) and I agree that Spite isn't the sole reason for the channel's success, but the business decision to hire Spite was keen because it allowed YN to grow with his audience. The sophomoric moto-bro approach that got YN on the map 7+ years ago is less appealing to the bulk of his subs these days, so featuring Spite brought a more mature style which also let Eric do his thing to an extent. I disagree that Yammie telling people to sub to Spite's Corner was a huge boost.. I doubt many people made it to the end of that video due to the cringe factor. I'm guessing that most viewers (myself included) subbed to Spite's Corner way before the end of that video.
firing spite and saying theres no spots to keep him at Ym, then hiring an intern to do that job shows yammie/eric didnt want to pay Spite the amount he is worth. spite got me into Ym not eric. i know whitney and josh are becoming very popular over there so if this happens to them down the line i wouldnt be suprised. Yammie shouldve just come clean about the real reasons why he fired him and i think peple wouldve repsected that more then some bs lets make a vid and shit on you.
Edit : also this vid just popped up for me new sub here
Funny how Yammie deleted the video of him and Spite talking and then uploaded a video "Moving to a MASSIVE new place"
lol yeah and hires new people
I never really liked Spite that much. But having said that I hope his channel is successful.
I'm glad I watched this. I had no idea of YN's reckless past even though there were enough markers to point to it. It seemed a bit odd to let Spite go and this explains why. I will certainly be one of the 10K leaving YN.
They went from 1.15 mill subs to 1.14 I notice. Spite went from 2.8k subs to 70k subs
nice
I didn't know who Spite was until this separation. All I knew was that I couldn't stand YammieNewb.
Enjoying your work, Spite!
just like back in the crash days - I only found YN videos because of others talking about him, and giving him airtime. I never sub'd because of the stuff you mentioned and his attitude towards his responsibility for the crash. I never new anything about Spite, until I heard he got fired.... because I never followed.
Only find the best gossip when others talk about it.
the rumour mill content
@postocalypse talks about this... im thinking more and more Post might be right.... yammies a butt munch but hes a smart butt munch lol
@@michaeldelarm1630 oh yes - drama gets views..
Would be dope to see Spite gain a huge following or get picked up by a big channel like Revzilla or something.
I agree with you. YN has issues.
hope he grows out of it
Usually when a show duet breaks up, it's the beginning of the end.
Good video mate spites got a good site. Buy the way where can I get a pair of your gloves iam in the uk cheers
Thanks man! these gloves are from here: fogygarage.com/collections/gloves-1/products/ursus-chief-gloves-sand
you can use the code: KSMOTO10 for 10% discount if you want.
Anyone else notice that video didn’t stay up long at all from YN 🤨 like it went down very quickly it went down when i was watching it and it was only a few hours after its upload
yeah it was hurting his channel so he deleted it as soon as it backfired
Honestly I hope some of the other YN interns leave and join up with Spite. Josh seemed like a cool guy, I'm not too sure of what all he did there besides the limited videos he showed up in and the girl that was on a good handful of bike rides and even did a video with Josh checking out I believe a Chinese entry level sports bike has good energy and Spite and her work pretty well together from what we've seen.
YN has proven himself an actual ass on more than one occasion now. Not just a joking ass for views, but a true one unfortunately.
maybe one day but i doubt Spite currently has enough revenue to hire staff yet
@@KSMotoCafe yea I didn't mean right now, but even if they appeared on his (they would probably have to leave YN first, I don't see it happening) but you're right maybe I. The future
They just need to do a good enough job at YN to become more likeable than Eric; then they can get fired with severance pay
@@KSMotoCafe lol fair enough. Appreciate the time replying man
Spite was about the only reason I was subscribed to YN. I stayed subbed for a few days after this all went down, but the YN videos are just not interesting. Dude isn't interesting... He comes off like that guy at a party who tries to insert themselves into conversations going on around them and make those conversations about themselves. I legitimately feel like IRL he would be one of the few people that I just cannot stand to be around.
And Spite... well, he seems like the kind of guy you could just have a beer with and shoot the shit. His videos come across as well researched and coming from someone who is experienced enough to know what they are talking about (or capable of educating themselves when they don't), but humble enough to not think they are some sort of rockstar.
Like you said, this isn't going to kill the YN channel, and months from now most of his audience probably won't even remember it. But hopefully months from now Spite's channel will be going strong and I can say "I was here when he only had 2500 subscribers" lol
hell yeah I would have a beer with Spite 😅