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Using T3 Thyroid Medication To Feel 100% Again | Dr. Westin Childs & Paul Robinson
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2021
- In this video, I interview Paul Robinson. Paul is a thyroid patient advocate and the author of 3 books on thyroid including Recovering with T3, the Thyroid Patients Manuel, and CT3M Handbook.
The key takeaway here is that you do NOT have to continue to suffer as a thyroid patient. Paul has successfully used T3 thyroid medication to recover his health back to 100% and has helped over 1,000 thyroid patients do the same over the last several years.
T3 is the most important thyroid hormone in the body and it can be used to both treat and manage thyroid symptoms in the short term and long term.
Links to Paul's books and website:
Recovering with T3: www.amazon.com...
Thyroid Patients Manuel: www.amazon.com...
CT3M Handbook: www.amazon.com...
Paul's Website: paulrobinsonth...
In this video, you will learn how Paul was able to recover back to 100% using T3 only thyroid medication, how to tell if you should be taking T3 thyroid medicine as a thyroid patient, the average dose that most people need to feel better, potential side effects of T3 thyroid medication and whether or not its dangerous, how to evaluate your thyroid lab tests while using T3, whether or not a suppressed TSH is dangerous, and much more.
Paul provides a wealth of knowledge that will help pretty much any thyroid patient.
Did you enjoy this interview? Would you like to see Paul again? Let me know below!
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Disclaimer:
Dr. Westin Childs received his Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine from Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic medicine in 2013. His use of “doctor” or “Dr.” in relation to himself solely refers to that degree. Dr. Childs is no longer practicing medicine and does not hold an active medical license so he can focus on helping people through videos, blog posts, research, and supplement formulation. To read more about why he is no longer licensed please see this page: www.restartmed...
This video is for general informational, educational, and entertainment purposes only. It should not be used to self-diagnose and it is not a substitute for a medical exam, treatment, diagnosis, prescription, or recommendation. It does not create a doctor-patient relationship between Dr. Childs and you. You should not make any changes to your medications or health regimens without first consulting a physician. If you have any questions please consult with your current primary care provider. Restart Medical LLC and Dr. Westin Childs are not liable or responsible for any advice, course of treatment, diagnosis, or any other information, services, or product you obtain through this website or video.
#thyroid #hypothyroidism #hashimoto's
Do you guys like this type of interview? Do you want to see more? Let me know!
Sometimes, if they go straight to the point and Iinformative
Yes, I love this kind of interview, I'm currently going through the same thing. I have hashimotos and would love to try just T3 only. I've been on levothyroxine, synthroid, armour, tirasent. Felt miserable on all of them.
T3 has changed my life so much! I went through an awful time with my thyroid disease, especially after having RAI. Doctors are clueless regarding thyroid disease.
Thank you, Dr. Childs! If only GPs could be forced to watch this interview, maybe there would be fewer thyroid patients suffering unnecessarily.
Yes love this interview.
This interview changed my life, I went to my Doctor and asked for Cytomel a month ago, my T3 was in range but was on the low end of the range and kept dropping from last year. My doctor prescribed a 5 microgram dose and it changed my life! I feel like a different person. My hair stopped falling out and my eyelashes grew back as well as my energy and mood improved significantly. Thank you for this interview.
How much T4 med are you taking?
are you taking any T4? or just the Cytomel?
@@irinam9848 no T4, but my Cytomel dose has changed to 25 mcg
@@dryRoses just the Cytomel, but they have now upped my dose to 25 mcg
You have to find your number when you feel good, and then THATS YOUR NUMBER!
I’ve learned a lot from Paul Robinson. I have read all three of his books. I’m fortunate that my doctor has as well. I’m glad that Dr. Westin is progressive and brings forth help for thyroid patients.
Where are you located Shelley? I am in New York City, have been on Levothyroxine for 11 years now, .88 mcg, have gained 50 lbs, feel exhausted, terrible, just assumed that was my only option. It's only in the last few months I have been educating myself and heard about Cytomel! I ran to my Endocrinologist in March and asked him to put me on it, and he gave me all the ridiculous reason to not go on it, re heart problems, it's only for people who have had Thyroid cancer, it's too strong, blahs blahs Blah. I need to find a great doctor here like Dr Childs or Paul Robinson! Thanks.
I live on the opposite side of the states in WA. I literally interview functional, intregrative or Naturopathic doctors before committing. I hope that helps.
@@shelleybuerer4502, Saw Dr Ken Gross at Poly in Seattle for years. He was amazing! Then he retired. Dr Hassam at Poly was.his replacement. 1st thing she did was change my meds. I politely disagreed. She said she knew better because she had been to medical school and I didn't. (WTH?) In the 2 yrs since, I've put on 50 lbs, lost much of my hair, have lizard skin, etc. In a phone appointment, she told me I needed to stop being lazy and exercise. I explained that I had been a triathlete and personal fitness instructor. And ate clean. That I was now disabled. She literally hung up on me.
@@avimae4225
That’s a disgrace to treat a patient out of ignorance. This doctor should have developed a relationship with you and have known that you once were a very good athlete.
Hormones and how they transport to our cells, organs are not well studied especially in the conventional medicine world. My very intelligent PCP told me this during our first visit. I see a naturopath ND for my hormone replacement therapy.
What studies that are chosen to put into the medical journals depend on a lot of factors. There’re many factual studies that are left out. Doctors that are not open to look beyond should be avoided.
Nutrients, good gut health to absorb them and help transport the hormones to the cells is poorly not understood by many doctors. To find your best dose of hormones to bring your thyroid levels is not black and white.
Stay away from these ignorant doctors and find a good open minded doctor. Usually they’ll be functional, intregrative or Naturopathic ND ( stay away from those who graduated from Bastyr or be very careful in selecting)
I can make a recommendation if you’re interested?
@@avimae4225That’s horrible and I experienced a similar situation when I had to switch providers… When she refused to prescribe my T3 that I had been taking with my T4, I went in a search for another prescriber!
No offense intended but why would you continue to suffer so much and keep going to her for so long?
🙏I wish you a return to better health and healing!❤️🩹
I am so happy you had Paul on your show! Just my humble 2 cents....as a woman with hypothyroidism in my 40s, none of my symptoms improved until I got my ferritin to 70. Iron is overlooked by many doctors. Also: the poor care thyroid patients get is by design. It's criminal.
Agreed.
What supplement helped you to increase ferritin to 70? I’m struggling with my iron levels
@@Kker448 I take ferrous fermarate iron with no stomach upset. I also have my docotor test my ferritin levels at least every 90 days. I take it with a small glass of orange juice for the vitiman C to help absorption. I found that absorbic acid vitiman C poorly affected my thyroid function. I went from a ferritin level of 10 to 70 in about 2 months. I don't take a lot. Only 29 miligrams a day.
Thank you for the quick response. 🙏🥰
We learn so much here. When I became ill 8 years ago I was given Levothyroxine and told "you have Hashimoto's, take this, goodbye".
Same with me. Dr: "You have Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism. Take levothyroxine for the rest of your life. See you in 6 months" . Me: Wait! How did I get it! What can I expect"? Dr: "Next patient, please"
Exactly..
Exactly! My doctor kept dropping my T4 dose, which was only barely sustaining me, because my TSH was "too low,," and I got practically nonfunctional. That's when you start doing your best to figure things out for yourself and obtain other meds through non-conventional sources, literally in order to survive.
where i am at right now trying to advocate and fignt for myself despite exhaustion. low t4 low t3 , low everything, levoxyrhine caused worsening symptoms and weight gain , depression, not myself
Love this interview! Gives hope to those that have been stuck in a holding pattern of feeling terrible because lab values are “within range”. We are being told our symptoms can’t possibly be your thyroid. To make matters worse, we are held captive by insurance companies that limit which prescribers you can see without paying 100% out of pocket. Unfortunately, I would bet most endocrinologists and GP’s would dismiss this thinking as radical.
I didn't know I was having thyroid issues until I started losing my hair and feeling unwell and in pain it made me go get my levels checked and my thyroid levels are low I feel so terrible I have no energy it sucks so bad to feel sick and tired 😩
I am a person that has experienced this for years. I had a precious doctor that went totally by my symptoms and not my normal blood labs. He prescribed a med. Looking back, I wish I would have made major changes to my diet and lifestyle because once you get on these meds, you never get off of them. I for one do not like the entrapment I feel by having to see a doctor. If you get one that you have to pay 100% out of pocket, which I have now, it costs a small fortune and then they blackmail you into buying their useless supplements plus have tons of other tests done so that they can search for other things that they want to "treat." It is all a big scam.
@@travelinggirl6681 ... correct, most of the know nothing about the andocrine system especially the Thyroid and para-rhyroids. Iv'e been struggling for 25 yrs am on 1.5 Eltroxin for thyroid.both lobes removed.my 4 para thyroids was so damaged being without blood supply they died off. Habing to take per day 2 magnesium, 2 calsium and two vit D. The cramps, pins and needles in hands and feet, deprived of sleep, lethargic, loosing hair, brittle nails and gaining weight i.e.
Its an ongoing shlepp!
Good luck to you!
@@acoet3496 I am so sorry you have been dealing with it too. There are many things working together to cause thyroid issues, I have discovered. I hope that you can find some things that work for you.
@@travelinggirl6681n.y
My Dr took me off of my T3 and i have not been right since. I am going to beg her to put me back on. Horrible without it. T4/Synthroid is NOT enough for some of us
The utter passion, love, and caring that Dr. Westin Childs and Author Paul Robinson have to educate the public, and explaining how absurd mainstream medicine is on such an important issue as thyroid, and getting the thyroid functioning at optimal levels. This video/info "brought me literally to tears" since I have hypothyroidism and been fighting to feel normal instead of feeling like an alien since 1990!! That mainstream doctors don't care, and push anti-depressants, refuse it, it's trash!! Dr. Childs and Robinson are "100% ANGELS of the purest form of love, they are true leaders!! Once again "Thank You SO Much" for such a great video, you are the Master!! And "please" Dr. Childs continue these type of videos!!!! Now my thoughts are rolling what would of happened to my life, if I would of had pin point knowledge back in 1990 and found a doctor like Dr. Westin Childs!!!! Much Love❤
Have you seen protocols from Ray Peat PhD who specialises on thyroid hormones
Bless his heart….we all have been there got the tee shirt! Took me 30 years. Now I take Armour AND Cytomel (T3). Finally!
Now 2years after you posted .. are you still taking these And what has been your experience...?
( I saw your comment)
I'm getting ready to listen to listen interview. I was just given these meds ...
( I was on NP) for a couple weeks and clearing my system to get ready to take these as I said ..
Again wanting to know your experience on these..
Thank you
I went to the best in endocrinologist in St. Louis so I was told. After a few visits over a couple of years I realized that he was doing nothing for me and that I was on my own to figure out my thyroid issues. Watching many videos from different Dr like this one has changed my life for the best! Thanks for all you do I am a new follower and I have learned so much from binge watching your videos!
I was put on Levothyroxine 20 years ago because I was SO tired all the time and couldn't even summon up an idea in my head without great effort. When I finally asked that about Armour Thyroid, my doctor completely dismissed it. He told me that it was too difficult to measure the effectiveness of it. I continued to put up with it for over a decade and then demanded a T3 and T4 test. He finally put me on a very low dosage of T3. It gave me an immediate boost, but he also kept me on Levothyroxine. Now that I am 72 years old, my doctor just believes I am tired from old age and disability. I know deep down inside that is NOT true! Why won't they LISTEN????
They don't carexabout us. Only a consistent paycheck and kickbacks smh. Sickening.
All doctors are not trained to identify most thyroid problems , or how to to treat thyroid issues
I disagree with your doctor, Im 77 years old and went through your same experience with my
HCPs, demand a full panel t3 reverse t3, thyroid antibodies etc.
Most doctors , even some specialist are not up to date, they remain in a money making comfort zone, I fought for 2 yrs.straight only to be dismissed and disrespected, but kept fighting, today I’m doing much better , good luck to you , l know what it feels like. I thank God for , making a break through for me.
I’ve been on Eltroxin (a brand of Levothyroxine in Canada) for 10 years and one symptom I always have is FATIGUE! I’ve gotten iron infusions for my iron deficiency and b12 shots for my b12 deficiency. I exercise quite a bit and I’ve also tried diabetic meds for weight loss (I’m not a diabetic), and I am ALWAYS FATIGUED!!! I’m finally working with a Naturopath who has talked about adding T3. First time in my life a doctor has talked to me about it.
Paul’s book “Recovering with T3” is a Gem 💎
This is me!!! I did my research and found out many people that need T4 and T3. I just started T3 W my T4 and in a week I was feeling so much better. I might need a higher dose but waiting to see. I was miserable for 2 years and my Endo just wrote me off.
Hi
did it work out for you?
are you feeling better?
searching for a doctor thats willing to prescribe T3 for me
im miserable hope there is a way out of this hell
Levothyroxine that I started about 6 months ago and dosed up a bit was helping a lot. Now I feel like I am slipping back into that droop that I am very familiar with. My doctor tells me we are all getting older, could be some adrenal fatigue and I will see you in a year. Like you I am advocating for myself and not just turning into a blob. I was an athletic person until just 2 years ago. I hope you continue to improve on the T3 T4 combo
@L’esprit de l’escalier I don't eat pork I will never eat pork it's disgusting... Eggs some fish Turkey a little bit of beef grass fed organic et cetera...NEVER PORK!!! OR CAMEL!!!
@joaniweiss5870 Pasture raised pork is very different from conventionally raised pork.
Going through this issue for years and finally dr prescribed t3- cytomel 5 mcg.
Been feeling sick for too long. After hearing this interview I have hope again
Always keep the hope!
Same here! I just started taking 5 mcg cytomel in addition to my 75 mcg synthroid (lowered from 88 mcg) four days ago. Definitely feel less cold and less brain fog already! The second day I had a crazy amount of energy in the morning/afternoon then crashed hard in the evening. Haven't really had that burst of energy again after that. I know I've only been taking cytomel for 4 days, but do you have any tips Dr. Childs? And Elizabeth how long have you been taking your for now? Had an effects?
I'm in bed, no appetite.. Just nothing working...haven't even energy to go to specialist. T4 levothyroxine 2 years. End of line! I take supplements as advised. I studied this n he's right but doctor won't prescribe.
@@jbooots8691 that’s an extremely low dose. Know of people taking 30mcg 3x daily
@@y.t.a180 they sell T3 online pretty cheap. The best doctors believe in treating thyroid according to symptoms far more than bloodwork results. Some feel terrible & aren’t healthy unless their levels are higher than the high normal range.
Normal ranges are based on a population who 80-95% aren’t healthy anyways
Talk about a very very famous person yes. :-) I have heard his story on other podcasts and boy has he helped a lot of people. Thank you so much for having him on.
Hope you enjoyed it!
You guys are wonderful together. Been on Synthroid over 60 years and my Doc just put me on Cytomel and I take a half of 5 MCG daily and it makes me feel normal again. Wish there were more Doctors like you.
These interviews are GOLD
Glad you enjoy them!
Great!
I was talking t4 for over 20 years now. I noticed that my t3 was low normal despite t4 being ok. Then I increased my t4 but my t3 even DEcreased!
My insulin resistance went up, my HDL went down!
Now my doctor prescribed me t3 (actually today). I’m excited to feel the difference in a few days / weeks!
update?
Any update?
Update!
Update please !!!! How you feeling
Love this interview. Paul Robinson is so knowledgeable regarding thyroid disease. This interview is so relatable.
He is great! I want to have him back on again.
My new dr said I didn’t have Hashimotos any more, so she stopped my T3’s.
I spiraled into a deep depression for no reason. I was suicidal. I had ALL of the ‘usual’ hypothyroidism symptoms!
It came to me at 3am that I NEEDED my T3’s!!!!! I called into the office and told them I was suicidal for no reason and I NEED to be back on my t3’s.
It gave me my life back again!
were you just on T3 or were you also on T4?
@@dryRoses I am on T4 112 & T3 only 5!
I’m going to insist on a referral to Endocrinologist next time I see my Dr!
If you don't have hashimoto's anymore, then that should mean you're in remission and don't need medication anymore at all....but, are you saying they stopped t3 but not t4?.....if you still wanted to take a low dose of t3 for a while, I don't see how that could be a problem...
Great interview! Paul is amazing, he's helped me SO MUCH. I'm now almost symptom-free after 8 long years of thyroid problems :)
This gives me so much hope! I’m still not well but I know I’m going to get there. X
You are geniuses. You bring back the sens and confidence in doctors. I’m so afraid of them that when I felled in the middle of the night because of a dizziness, and back to myself bathing in my blood I waited till my family leaving far away, waked up and came to bring me at hospital. I was ready to dye home without assistance.
I had surgery in 2012 for hypothyroidism , no matter how many doctors I seen,how many times they have change my medication (Levothyroxine) now I'm having heart problems because I never got proper treatment..I recently change my doctor to a N.D and say the exact same thing ..First thing she look for was the T3 something no other doctor did for me ..I lost hope but hearing this gives me some back..
I appreciate this interview
Love this interview, more doctors should listen and learn!!! We have been being told complete nonsense for too long. Thanks for getting this info out there!
Happy to do it!
I agree 200%!!
How many people here have also had there gall bladders taken out?? And have a hypothyroid?? My tsh was 5.4 and my blood was taken at 4pm. The doctor told me 5.4 is not a big deal. I've just had all of the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism for decades now. Depression, no energy, constipation, rigid britle fingernails, body temp is always below 97.5, dry itchy skin, hair loss, border low b12, gallbladder problems.
I did.
You definitely need T3’s!!!
I’ve been dealing with it for over 25 years.
I insisted on a T3 resistance test 25 years ago, this positive result and T3 prescription was life changing!
@@karenholt8441 t3 was good but was too stimulating. I also found out that I have a genetic mutation that causes me to have really bad methylation by the mthfr enzyme. Basically my body is depleted of vitamin b9. B9 plays a huge role in depression, anxiety, brain health. Heart health. Gallbladder health.
Excellent! Bring Paul back whenever he is available. Thank you.
I started taking Levothyroxine at night. Sublingual. Much much better. I broke T3 tablet in half this morning. Brilliant.
Glad to hear it!
@@drwestinchilds I followed your advice about taking Levothyroxine at night and sublingually. The half Tertroxin is purely experimental. Thank you for your good work.
This was such an informative interview. Hearing two experts providing their knowledge in this format was perfection.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Could my thyroid be why I had breast cancer? I have hypothyroidism take levathyroxine.
Yes indeed that’s what I am trying to do, I got diagnosed in 2017, if it was up to the Endocrinologist they put you on T 4 and tell you come back when your thyroid is completely destroyed. I want to go in remission and I am bringing all this information to my internist!
I had to plead with my PCP to get tested for T3 and reverse T3. Going in tomorrow for the test. I asked for a complete thyroid panel, but he only agreed to those. I know that historically, my T3 has been low, but at 80, I find I forget things like that. Didn’t remember this until I saw the video where you talked about the complete panel. Now we will see. I am exhausted constantly, but I have had COVID 6 times, and now have long COVID, so don’t know how much of the exhaustion is from long COVID. I really hope part of it is thyroid related.
I've struggled with my thyroid problems for years. Thankfully I found a doctor who specializes in the thyroid problems. She's given me to T3 try for the days that I feel I need more than the Levothyroxine and Liothyroninum can give me.
I was diagnosed at the age of 24yrs. I went to the doctors after a massive panic attack in Ikea, my heart rate was all over the place.
I KNOW I have had thyroid problem for over 25 years....went to a doctor once and he said I JUST NEED TO GET A JOB......I was sick so how could I get a job ...I was there to see him to get fixed ,better......I knew there was something wrong with me but the doctors couldn’t work it out....
I got really sick about 10 months ago and told him I was thinking of suicide....he finally did the test and put me on levothyroxine... I do feel better but I am sure I can do better...Thanks you two there is light at the end of the tunnel
I feel I need to doctor myself now. I don’t trust most of the conventional docs.
Glad you two got together!!! Please do more!!! 👏🏽💙
absolutely wonderful discussion, couldn't agree more with every point! Took many more than a decade to FINALLY get tested for antibodies, 3 endo's later got onto Tirsint which helped...some, added liothyronine but it exacerbated (not caused) heart palps (PVC) within the first hour or so after dosage. Finally found an awesome GP who tested reverse t3 and as it seems, I don't convert well. He changed tx approach - sustained release t3, with tirosint - tirosint was lowered and t3 is the primary tx. Feel better than I have in years.
You're very very lucky. I'm from Romania and they only test tsh , antibodies and that's it
I tested my t3 on my own but I'm in the normal range so my doctor was very dismissive until she finally agreed to help me dose it.. but she never recommends reverse t3. I don't think they even know what that is here..
@@OzmaOfOzz I’m sorry to hear that, and hope perhaps your doctor would be willing to explore more options. Before I had my current doctorI would take Dr.Childs’ articles to my doctor and she was willing to explore done things but like your experience, she would not test rt3
This was such a wonderful interview, the ability to obtain all the information and self-educate is fulfilling however on the flip side we can self educate until we're blue in the face but getting a doctor to listen and help us is nearly impossible and that includes Integrative Medicine doctors as well they will even raise an eyebrow at an suppressed TSH ( 0.09 or 0.02) even when the t3 levels are still low and patient is not well!! We feel trapped because everything we have learned and taught ourselves we cannot use for help, we continue to stay in hashi prison!! Like Dr. Robinson said it destroys people's careers, lives and relationships!! I could not agree more. Thank you again for this wonderful post 👍
Happy to do it! I agree that it can be tough to find someone but it's always worth it in the end.
My life has been destroyed because of my thyroid, There is no help... I've been in a near death state for 20 years!!! I can barely get out of bed... Death would be better than this.
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I was just put on T3 and it was so wonderful to have a breakdown and understanding of it’s use. This was an extremely helpful interview.
Great things Dr iyaremoses on TH-cam has being doing for mankind, I undergo his treatment for 6 days and my hypothyroidism was gone
Have you noticed improvements and are you on any other thyroid meds or only T3?
@@ninavaldi2032 hello friend I get cure permanently with herbal remedy from Dr iyaremoses on TH-cam channel
Love this interview! Two of my favorite people have n thyroid issues. I had my thyroid taken out 39 years ago and have been through it all! I also had cancer twice which I believe was a result of doctors not treating my thyroid issue. I found Paul a few years ago and have been T3 only since....what a difference! Thank you for all the information Dr. Child’s!
My pleasure!
What does of t3 are you on? Do you take one dose or throughout the day?
I am on compounded T3...70 mcg a day. I split it up into 4 doses a day.
Doctors for 25 + yrs have tried to give me anti-depressant meds that I'd throw away only after a couple wks. After watching and reading about the thyroid I asked/begged for further testing which finally turned out to be hypothyroidism. The first wk I found so much peace and energy I literally cried. In my second wk my legs which had a tough to touch patches but were not visible totally gone and was able to ditch all use of lotions. On my third wk, I found myself up and down, one day feeling great and the next miserable which I hope is just an adjustment to my new life on Levothyroxine. Dr. Westin, I'm taking your advice seriously so I made an appt. to see an Endocrinologist first then I will determine afterward if I should go on to the next type of doctor you mentioned in another video. So much of my life has been wasted and I refuse to waste any more precious time. My Doctor created a monster lol when she found my issue was hypothyroidism.
P.S. After my first couple of days I also found I was breathing deeper and not holding my breath anymore. I so hope others who are in that dark place of hypothyroidism find the help that they so deserve.
What was the other kind of doctor he mentioned?
Nic how you are prompting a book in
@@Ka-kai Endocrinologist
Thanks for this interview Dr Childs. I had 2 x thyroidectomies - leaving me with 1/2 a thyroid. I was on Thyroxine for about 20 years, then about 13 years on NDT (+ some sex hormones). I read Stop The Thyroid Madness a few years ago. And this year, read Elle Russ's book. I was lucky enough to find an endocrinologist, who was happy to put me on T3 only. In fact, he actively promotes T3 only! It's only been 5 weeks on 60mcg,
but I haven't started to feel the difference yet.
Obviously, developing Meniere's Disease has complicated things somewhat, but I am hoping this new course will help the MD as well.
Thank you for what you do.
what province do you live in Naomi??
Where do you live? California has the worst doctors ever!
Make sure you are eating well. T3 can be a nightmare, any thyroid medication, really, when not eating well. You will not be able to absorb it properly, and, high inflammation will affect how you absorb t3.
I am going through the same , I also have Meniers . How did you it go for you ?
Absolutely loved it! More of these types of interviews please, Big Cheers from the UK :) Great job, thank you Dr Childs.
I could relate to him so much like it made me feel better about my situation. He actually described my situation to a T.
Very good interview, will be super helpful for those who are starting their journey of figuring out their thyroid issues, and for everyone to get a better grasp of how all the thyroid hormones work!
What a treat this interview was. Thanks so much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It's nice to come across a video in which a doctor speaks sense. I have struggled with Hashimotos for most of my life. Never felt well enough on Levothyroxine alone. Nobody wanted to test my T3 until 30 years in when finally somebody did. I was below normal range and suspect I had been all my life. I'm now seeing an Endocrinolgist who is supplementing me with T3 while simultaneously lowing the dose of T4. My T3 levels are now in the upper half of the range and I feel so much better. My lipids are improving as well.
Could you share on what dosages of T4 &T3 are you? TIA
Currently 50 mcg of levothyroxine every morning and 10 mcg of liothyronine both morning and afternoon.
I lost around half of my thyroid in 2007 when benign lumps were removed from it. It went onto synthetic T4 straight after the op. A recent sonar shows that my thyroid has grown back, virtually 100%! I am now systematically going off the T4 medication. I'm 67. The hope is that my thyroid is actually doing OK, and I don't need any meds!! Initial results are positive. I'm on 50 micrograms Uthyrox, hoping to go down to 25 and then 0!
...you so lucky, thyroid growing back!!
Thank you Paul & Dr Childs you have given me huge information as I am taking Levo following total thyroidectomy. I am feeling so crappy and this gives me hope, but I am going to find a dr who understands me and my hypo symptoms even whilst taking T4 med, I feel so much worse now than prior to my surgery…THANK YOU BOTH FOR OPENING MY EYES TO.A POSITIVE AND VERY INFORMATIVE chat
Happy to help! You can use this resource to help you find a doctor as well: www.restartmed.com/how-to-find-a-doctor-to-treat-your-thyroid/
Great interview! This should be the stuff any GP should know. Thank you for this pure gold info.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great things Dr iyaremoses on TH-cam has being doing for mankind, I undergo his treatment for 6 days and my hypothyroidism was gone
That sounds great!
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I'm so glad I'm learning more about thyroid issues and that there's treatments available to help with it I feel horrible can't wait for my doctor to make me well again 😭 get your thyroid checked I didn't know I had issues until I've felt unwell and hair loss then I found out when my symptoms started getting worse my levels are low
Great things Dr iyaremoses on TH-cam has being doing for mankind, I undergo his treatment for 6 days and my hypothyroidism was gone
My thyroid tests are never the same. Then I got Afib. Meds are so expensive.
Doc added 25mcg liothyrinine to my 112mcg synthroid. Game changer 🙌🏾
25mcg is usually enough to feel it :) Glad you feel better!
I take 112 also and I went to functional APRN and she has added 25mcg of T3, I just started. I hope this helps with high A12 and high cholesterol, tiredness. I eat good, workout. Hopeful
Amen, Doctors! It's all about getting thyroid patients feeling better. Thank you for saying that. Doctors I see for my Graves don't want me to even question what they're giving me, let alone asking for a T3 test! Frustrating to no end!
Great things Dr iyaremoses on TH-cam has being doing for mankind, I undergo his treatment for 6 days and my hypothyroidism was gone
Thank you Dr Childs for posting this interview with Paul Robinson - as I do not have a thyroid due to graves disease & have low cortisol - I take NDT trying to optimize - very illuminating!
I swear T3 was like taking a xanax for me. From crying like a mad person with high anxiety due to hormonal imbalance, I took 1/2 or 25mcg of T3 and felt loads better in 15 minutes. Thyroid unbalanced levels can really mess with your emotions, no joke.
Thanks for this gem of an interview, wish more doctors would listen!!
Great things Dr iyaremoses on TH-cam has being doing for mankind, I undergo his treatment for 6 days and my hypothyroidism was gone
I think what you described is what I am going through now!
@@reginafranklin4518 try natural dessicated thyroid
Badly timed commercial breaks by youtube .....had to rewind several times. Starting my journey to treat my thyroid and this is very informative.
Thank GOD for doctors like this! (who want to learn the WHY of everything and question "normal" values when their patient has bald spots and gain 30 lbs in a month) He needs to start a medical school because doctors need to be trained to think this way!
Thanks Dr. Childs. You’re great, especially at .75 playback speed 😁
Haha, sorry!
Felt well on NDT then added Levothyroxine (FT4) ... to try get FT4 levels up from 10% to 50%.
FT4 made me feel so unwell & has put me back after 10 weeks on it (major fatigue, thyroid inflammation, muscle & joint pain & really bad daily headaches).
Now 2 weeks off Levothyroxine & trying to get well on NDT alone again.
Incredible information. Thank you both for doing this.
Another awesome interview 👏👏👏
This interview was so informative. Thank You!
Great interview nice to get a different perspective
Help us to find drs that will treat thyroid correctly please.
Yes, please bring him back! I am just beginning the journey of trying to find a doctor to help as an expat living in Portugal. I am not feeling very hopeful. Yet, referring my new doc to this video will be a help!
Thank you this is wonderful, I like different lab ranges!
Every person is different, I happen to do better with the NDT Compound And Lio! GPs need to listen to the each individual. I am glad to hear that a low T3 show you are symptomatic.
Great video 👌 Thank you Dr. Childs and Mr. Robinson
Welcome!
My primary issue with synthetic T4 is the chronic joint pain I was experiencing after using so many years. I also had low HR during workouts. I was just tired. My T3 always measured low normal, so that’s explains a lot. I’m now on 30mg NP thyroid and I’m thinking of increasing the dose for T3.
Thyroid levels vary to the extreme when it comes to ideal levels. A fairly large percentage feel like absolute crap & have every thyroid symptom known with “perfect levels” and don’t feel good & aren’t healthy until their levels are higher than the high normal range. The best doctors agree it should be treated based on symptoms, not blood levels.
T3 can be found online btw
@@Brockt87 where???
@@unrepentantjaegerist7236 can we find it by searching on Duck Duck Go?
@@Brockt87 Can it be found searching on Duck Duck Go?
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I take 112 mg of Armour thyroid and feel good right now. I feel best when my TSH is .18 which my endocrinologist thinks is too low. Luckily I found a doctor who listens to me, not just the range, which for me, is way off. I am 80 years old and my bones and heart are fine, contrary to what my endocrinologist believes is possible. It is very important to find the doctor who will listen to u if you understand your body. Be your own advocate.
This was informative. My doctor suspects I am suffering from thyroid hormone resistance (he thinks it's genetic). He explained thyroid hormone resistance as taking what seems like a fairly high dose of the medication yet only receiving a percentage of the benefit. I have hashimotos and I'm currently taking 75mcg liothyronine (this has been increased over time) and 75mcg levothyroxine daily. I was put on liothyronine because it was determined my body does not convert T4 to T3 well. My latest lab results are a bit confusing since I'm still symptomatic (although since boosting to 75mcg of liothyronine, I have seen a slight improvement in my symptoms) My results are as follows: TSH 0.02, T4 Total 3.3, T3 Reverse
Hyperthyroidism has similar symptoms to Hypothyroidism.
Over 35 years I’ve been dealing with hypothyroidism and what a struggle with getting them to prescribe desiccated thyroid medication the reason for that is it’s the biggest profit maker of all medications, the pharmaceuticals industry offers so many perk’s for endroconologists that prescribe within certain numbers and any that do prescribe anything else are victimized. Listening to the video there were so many points touched on that over the years I’ve found just what you have said true especially when it comes to the tsh and t3 and t4 and have at some point heard that there is a useless t2, experience shows how often they have been so wrong as with the useless appendix or tonsils. I do have another view on some of the reasons for such fluctuations person to person regarding numbers. Hopefully some day opportunity to discuss will present itself
Thank you both
Yes, I like this type of interview. I just came across this video and find it very helpful!!
Glad to hear it!
Fantastic interview 🙏🏼👍
It almost feels like you’re talking about me, I’ve had an underactive thyroid for thirty three years, not once have I felt great. They told me that I’ve been overprescribed levothyroxine and reduced this then sent me to the specialist regarding it, who reduced it but sent me for a bone density scan, which was fine. I still feel the same but lately I can’t stay awake. I’m going to get this guys books so I can go and discuss this effectively with my GP
Great interview.My GP told me T3 is for people with hyperthyroid and he won't prescribe it to me.I am 2 years on T4 100mcg and now I decided to add small dose t3 on my own.I hope I won't make any damage.I live in the Netherlands and can not find GP who understands how it works.It is so frustrating!
Find a functional doctor in Netherlands - Germany and Belgium has many 🦋💙
hi
did it work out for you?
you sourced it on your own?
im from Switzerland and in the same boat no doctor wants to prescribe me T3 :(
Where are you getting the t3 if your doctor won't prescribe it?
T3 would make a Hyperthyroid patient even more hyper. They need less hormone not more.
@@tanjasrensen3303 can you please tell me which functional dr? im in belgium and still not having luck
Very glad I found this video. What a great discussion. Helped me understand where I am at a whole lot more.
That was brilliant! I am sending this link to my doctor.
Incredible interview! Wow
Thank you Mr Robinson, us too we are tired 😪
Yes, I love this type of interview
This is some really great info but what we need is a list of doctors nationwide who will prescribe T3 only or are open to that as a therapy. It took me several years to find an endo who was willing to let me try T3 based on my own research, monitoring my symptoms and numbers. He hadn’t prescribed it before but I found out after my success with it, he starting prescribing it. He wasn’t willing to put me on Armour, but the Cytomel added to levoxyl was a game changer for me at the time. Fast forward, I’m on Armour and it works even better, though every time I have labs done, I get the “Well, your TSH is suppressed.” I’m a medical technologist by degree and I explain the negative feedback system and I know TSH is a messenger: if your thyroid hormone levels are adequate, you don’t need TSH telling your thyroid to make more! I think it boils down to liability in most cases, unfortunately. Our lawsuit happy society wants to hold doctors to some standard of perfection, so doctors get scared of working outside the boundaries of “normal” test ranges. If you find a doctor who listens and works with you, that’s great, but if you or they move away and you have to start over, it’s scary.
I'm working on putting a list together but it's not as easy as it seems :)
Work with an NP at a BIHT
I order from Mexico without Rx. A friend who visits Mexico all the time is bringing some back. It’s not illegal for goodness sake.
T3 helps a lot. However, sustained release T3 is so much better!! It's totally worth paying out of pocket and makes a big difference
Found this interview critical to my thyroid recovery. My reverse T3 was 23 on 30 mg of NP and 100 mcg’s of Synthroid. We reduced the Synthroid to 88 mcg’s and my reverse T3 went to 16. Then started on 5 mcg’s of regular T3. My reverse T3 went to 15.5, but both FT3 and FT4 went down. So I was given the 5mcg’s sustained release T3, and I’ve been taking that at night and the 5 mcg of regular T3 during the day. Result this far esp. since taking the sustained release at night, is that my sleep is been better which of course helps everything. I sometimes add another regular T3 during the day for a total of 10-15 mcg’s daily.
1. Why is it that sustained T3 taken at night helps one to sleep better?
2. What is a recommended rate of increasing T3 until you find the sweet spot, right level for you?
I believe it has something to do with the interaction between thyroid hormone and cortisol levels which normally peak in the morning. The rate of increasing T3 varies by person. 5-10mcg is usually good for most people.
I raised my wife a quarter pill a week with no issues until she got to 75mcg and it worked very well
I started sustained T3 yesterday, 2.5 mcg took it at 3:00 pm and I could not sleep all night. I don’t know if it was too stimulating for me. Today I’m feeling so exhausted.
Oh Boy I need to speak to my endocrinologist , my low T 3 and T 4 are been ignored while I’m suffering from so many issues
You should!
@@drwestinchilds Thank you for this interesting interview.
Paul is a smart man. I have cfs/me and normal / optimal thyriod. I supplement with low dose t3 and it def helps
OTC?
@@christinearmington it's not otc
Definitely talk about Adrenal Insufficiency, his low cortisol, Iron. The adrenals were what stopped me from absorbing T3 and converting T4 along with low iron. Those must be addressed for T3 to get into the cells. I wasted years being sick until I addressed this!
@@christopherludlam1602 - i could never increase or even stay on NDT thyroid meds with my low iron. Recently my practitioner has put me on B12 methylcobalamin shots. Cortisol, B12 & low iron all seem to prevent effective thyroid supplementation. B12 is related to low iron too.
@@christopherludlam1602have you considered the carnivore diet?
Yes great interview
So hopeful and informative
Yes, wonderful interview and discussion. My doctor would not write for a T3 level with my annual thyroid panel. Just Free T4 0.80 and TSH 1.54, thank you Dr. Childs for so much wonderful information. I have not felt right in a long time. I take 50mcq of Levothyroxine and have been slowly taking myself off of it...very slowly. I want to order a home T3 kit to check my T3 level. What do you think of these home kits?
I guess it depends on which one you are using.
Liothyronine is covered in the USA thru most insurances, unlike the NDT compound.
Good philosophy and great interview 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you both for sharing this amazing info 🦋 ...
Welcome!
Can you kindly do a video on T3 and pregnancy - is it safe to take? 🙏🏻❤️
If I have high reverse T3 with lots of hypothyroid symptoms but everything else is normal, should I still take thyroid supplements to feel better? to treat the reverse T3 issue. I feel crappy a lot
In my opinion, yes.
I enjoyed this interview very much 😊
Excellent interview.
I want to find help for life after a thyroidectomy. And I thought it was hard getting good help before...now it is virtually impossible!!!
I began on medication for Hashimotos Thyroiditis 46 yrs ago.
Have felt awful my whole life while begging everywhere for some help.
Have tried Armor and have been on both Cytomel and Liothyronine. Had a cancer scare three yrs ago and
Was told I needed a thyroidectomy. My maternal Grandfather died from thyroid cancer and I have two aunt's who have had partial a thyroidectomy. Now I feel more lost than ever.........🤦
Thanks, Dr. Westin and Paul. I have hyperthyroidism, and I take 112 MCG of levothyroxine. I thank you for the information you shared, and I am going to check out your website.
Glad you found it helpful!
Great interview. Thank you !
Welcome!
Thank you both. More ammunition i can use when meeting my new doctor to work for me not the pharmaceutical companies. I have already plan asking him for the proof in research for his out of date info, if it comes to that. I plan to ask him when was the last he cut someone to do bloodletting, or drilled a hole in the head to let evil spirits out. "Get up to date on new methodology, or research or get left behind". I shouldn't have to go to medical school too
Dont make him defensive. I know drs are often clueless. Wonder too why do I have to research on this.