The trail "sucks" bc it is a challenging tech trail and most riders are too lazy to take on that challenge. Bike-a hike?? No way! More trail traffic would wear in the trail better. This is how almost all trails were 20 years ago. Now, the machine-cut trails with sculpted berms are the rage. Those trails make for better selfies and vids, I guess. Backcountry is the best country imo.
@petedog9581 Agreed! Don't worry, they will put in a nice smooth flow trail there at some point. TBH, I'm tired of seeing tech trails closed for flow because folks can't find a way to ride them smoothly. If anything, instead of closing it, you would think think they would do maybe a couple little edits to increase the 'natural' rhythm of that line if its so bad.
@@Eganize I live locally, just to clarify these trails aren't being closed because they are difficult. They are being closed or re-routed due to erosion (Black Mountain), sedimentation (Butter Gap), and/or user conflicts (Cat Gap, likely others soon-ish). The sanitization done in DuPont is to help with erosion and facilitate horses, along with mitigate issues with other user groups. Most trail work you see in this area is for water mitigation and occasionally to resolve user conflicts, it has nothing to do with trails being difficult. Unfortunately around here, difficult trails tend to be eroded and the land managers don't like that. There are limits on the grades and materials trailbuilders can use, so whatever work gets done inevitably ends up being a mellow grade flow trail. This trail was proposed for closure because it's low traffic and a constant erosion problem, at least in the eyes of the land managers. It's also out/back, so it presents a potential user conflict. People rarely ride or hike it. So that is why they proposed closing it. To be clear I don't agree with this reasoning at all, it just is what it is. SORBA will tell you to get involved but it's just grandstanding, neither land managers in Pisgah nor DuPont really have any willingness to change their outlook or policies, so these trends will likely continue and there isn't anything they can do about it.
Ridden this trail many times but only ride it in the winter time because of the over grown section at the top! Also, I normally only ride an XC bike so the section of the wash out going down can be challenging on a 120mm/100mm bike.
That is the only trail in DuPont that hasn’t been sanitized. I’d hate to see it closed.
Same ;(
I guess I missed it,, what is the name of that trail?
@@ridelikekrum7707 Stone Mountain Trail! 🙌
The trail "sucks" bc it is a challenging tech trail and most riders are too lazy to take on that challenge. Bike-a hike?? No way!
More trail traffic would wear in the trail better. This is how almost all trails were 20 years ago. Now, the machine-cut trails with sculpted berms are the rage. Those trails make for better selfies and vids, I guess. Backcountry is the best country imo.
@petedog9581 Agreed! Don't worry, they will put in a nice smooth flow trail there at some point. TBH, I'm tired of seeing tech trails closed for flow because folks can't find a way to ride them smoothly. If anything, instead of closing it, you would think think they would do maybe a couple little edits to increase the 'natural' rhythm of that line if its so bad.
@@Eganize I live locally, just to clarify these trails aren't being closed because they are difficult. They are being closed or re-routed due to erosion (Black Mountain), sedimentation (Butter Gap), and/or user conflicts (Cat Gap, likely others soon-ish). The sanitization done in DuPont is to help with erosion and facilitate horses, along with mitigate issues with other user groups. Most trail work you see in this area is for water mitigation and occasionally to resolve user conflicts, it has nothing to do with trails being difficult. Unfortunately around here, difficult trails tend to be eroded and the land managers don't like that. There are limits on the grades and materials trailbuilders can use, so whatever work gets done inevitably ends up being a mellow grade flow trail.
This trail was proposed for closure because it's low traffic and a constant erosion problem, at least in the eyes of the land managers. It's also out/back, so it presents a potential user conflict. People rarely ride or hike it. So that is why they proposed closing it.
To be clear I don't agree with this reasoning at all, it just is what it is. SORBA will tell you to get involved but it's just grandstanding, neither land managers in Pisgah nor DuPont really have any willingness to change their outlook or policies, so these trends will likely continue and there isn't anything they can do about it.
Only rode it a couple times last winter but that trail was a blast! Bummed its closing😕 was always a good reason to go ride rocky ridge.
@@nickryan3287 couldn't agree more
Ridden this trail many times but only ride it in the winter time because of the over grown section at the top! Also, I normally only ride an XC bike so the section of the wash out going down can be challenging on a 120mm/100mm bike.
@@benstep2 I definitely won't ride again till winter. I bet that was gnarly on that bike 🙌
Good riding ..Looks like they just neglected to maintain that 1st trail
@@CDcooper3876 yes sadly ;(
They are closing the trail. Why would they maintain it?
@@salmonella508 unfortunately it hasn't been maintained for year from what I've heard. Even before they decided to close it.
Just started MTN bike again I used to take pruning snips w me o. The trail to cut back stuff on the walk ride up to not get whipped otw down
@@JesseBayles That's awesome! Good tip
I rode with a guy that did the same thing years ago. He kept them in his bag. A little maintenance and a little save your butt.