I’m a 42R (Army musician), and I just arrived at my first duty station. In one of my in-processing briefs here, the 11B E6 told us to share our name and MOS. When I said 42R, he asked what that was, and I replied that I play guitar in the band. He was all like, “No way! Dude that is totally badass!!!” Yep, it is pretty challenging to get into the bands (my AIT class was tiny), but definitely worth it. Everyone comes in as an E4, regardless of whether or not you have a degree. Additionally, if you can get into one of the Premier Bands (42S), you go to E6.
Also an army musician here. Giving a heads up to those wondering why 42S become E6. Those positions are symphony level competitive, and musicians of that caliber wouldn't bother with the military when they have way better opportunities elsewhere. 42R is also hard to get into but your chances of getting in are much higher if you're good. You can also always try again if you dont pass the audition. 42S auditions are sorta like once in a lifetime chances, and you're competing with hundreds of people who are qualified if not overqualified for 42R. Also yeah, promotions in 42R are pretty damn competitive
Most soldiers who've deployed understand fully the benefits of all mos's. I've had soldiers sing the national anthem and water my eyes. They emotionally move and motivate the troops. Good luck to you. Enjoy your career. You'll have a music career that your friends won't be able to compare.
My buddy was a 42R he was a bugle player he said he started playing the bugle because one of his grandfather's friends was a Korean war vet and during his funeral taps was played on a boom box and my friend said he never wanted another soldier to have taps played from a speaker so he learned to play the bugle when we turned 18 we joined the army 2003 he told the recruiter he was a bugle player and wanted to be on funeral details he had to try out but was picked up as a bugle player he has been doing for the last 20yrs he says every soldier who dies deserves to have a human play taps at their funeral
I'm a 42R with 3 years TIS. You are mostly right about the band; you'll definitely be playing whatever music your unit tasks you with, although heavy metal wouldn't necessarily be off the table. We're the Army's connection to American civilians, so if it has appeal and isn't controversial or too difficult to pull off, you might play any kind of music. The only thing I'll say is that promotions can be tough. Because 42R has such high job satisfaction and, like you mentioned, a ton of college-educated enlisted personnel, it can be really hard to go from E4 to E5. That said, you do get to enlist at E4 regardless of your education because of the skill it takes to pass the audition.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 Now that's a unicorn in the Army if I've ever heard of one. We obviously had 42R Drill Sergeants at my AIT, but I've never heard of a 42R DS at BCT until now
If I'm not mistaken 18D SF medics get some veterinarian training in the Q course. Great video duder, just thought I'd add a comment to drop some knowledge for comment readers.
I started my career as a 25m multimedia illustrator. "Computer graphics". I was a professional photographer and wanted that job but there wasn't any slots open for 1 year. The school was at ft meade Maryland. Very nice quiet base close to everything in DC. The training was amazing. But i stopped in the 25v (photographer) course to look around. The equipment was the best in the industry. $30,000 lenses etc. All available for your use. You also learn video. Imagine flying in a helicopter taking video or stills of cool action packed stuff. Just an incredible opportunity for anyone. Great job Chris.
Yeah, I looked into 25V and 46S because I am interested in journalism but I only had one semester off from school I could take off to train so I took a job in transportation logistics; an 88N to be exact.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 just so you know. Keep an eye out for the 2 MOSs you wanted. You can reclass into those gigs. As far as i know you can only do the reclass when your current enlistment is up for re-up. But there are many many times the military will have shortages for slots and will allow lateral transfers into the mos. For them its a win for the receiver unit, because they dont have to wait for you to go through basic before they get you in unit. They can pull you into the unit, slot you as mos 00 which means you're waiting for school. So they get a body to help out and then send you to reclass school for the new mos. Also nice for you as you can get idea of unit daily ops so you know what you'll be doing when you get back. Good luck too you. Keep your eye on the end goal. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. Pace yourself.
I knew a guy that joined the army for the athlete program. He had to select an MOS and go to OSUT. I'm guessing if boxing didn't work out for him they would just move him over to 19K. Once he was done with OSUT they stationed him in Colorado.
My kid is a 38b (civil affairs) and has described the job to me. Unfortunately, that description does not explain why a 26 week AIT at the JFK Special Warfare School, a TOP SECRET clearance and jump training are required to do the job they described. It sounded pretty simple. All the preparation does not.
68A is a skill set a person can use in the civilian sector. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we are talking about a 6 figure civilian job.
After I got out of the Army I worked for a private medical company in the early 80s . Then I got a job at the veterans administration and that was a GS 10-11.
I assume the 46S is a combination of the quebecs and romeos but I did quebec and it wasn't for me just because my unit could have disappeared and the only change that would have happened is the BC and Bn Commanders and SGMs would have been a little sad not seeing a paper with their exercises or initiatives in it. Maybe I just needed a mos with more concrete effect on the mission. One bonus though, for Change of Command ceremonies I showed up 15 minutes before, took photos of the change and then went right back to the office to process them so that's a nice thing.
Veterinarians go thru most of the classes in college as a doctor does, I heard it is harder to get into veterinarian school that regular medical school. They have phd’s in veterinarian medicine. They have to know pharmacology, how to do surgery, they have to know if the animals lab values are normal, and they have to understand pathophysiology. So, being a vet is no easy job. You have to pass a test and board to get your license. You also have to pass the DEA backround screening to get a license to prescribe medications.
A high school friend of mine is a vet. The competition just to qualify and be accepted to a veterinary school is difficult as well. Not many schools have a veterinary medicine program so they can be picky about who they accept.
A Vet has a much more difficult job than a doctor for humans. A Vets patients cannot describe how they feel or where they are experiencing pain. It's up to the Vet to determine that on his own.
A MOS that is often overlooked is 13F or forward observer. They’re artillery men that are attached to infantry and do fire control for the big guns 25 miles back. They live the infantry life but deal with less crap. And the promotion rates are even better than 11B. You can even get a Option 40, Rangers.
All the Ranger guys on TH-cam say that Infantry is highly sought-after, especially by young officers. I think that there are two types of people who join the Army: those looking for a job and those looking for adventure.
Cool! I considered that one but decided on something with wider civilian application so I selected Transportation Management Coordinator (88N). I was in Virginia too; but I trained in Fort Lee while you were in Fort Eustis.
I was also an 88 Mike in the Wisconsin Guard. I enlisted in 1993 and got out in late 2001. I was at Ft.Eustis in 1999 for locomotive engineer training/certification.
I can tell you this, good jobs in the military period are not in clerical, like the S1, supply etc. They work all the time and it is a THANKLESS JOB. If you are in an Infantry unit, every body else will be out having a good time and you are working. The same if it is FA, CAV, it really doesn't matter
The WCAP is very interesting to me. Didn’t know that was available. Do you have to be active to do that? I’m 31 looking at joining the reserves, have been a health/fitness/Jiu Jitsu instructor for the past decade.
Yes. That is an active-duty unit on Fort Carson that does that because they are training and competing all the time, so it would not work for a reservist or someone in the National Guard.
Its hard enough to get the 1st Sgt to sign off on a soldier to go take college classes. I have a hard time seeing a 1st Sgt allowing a soldier go play video games.
Don't believe it's something they would have to approve. It's more like the solder applies for it and if they got accepted they get orders to go to that unit in Fort Knox.
Any comment on all those Army soldiers dying in their bunks at Ft. Bragg and the Army chain of command say they "don't know what is happening"? Have you heard about that?
@@georgeacun3619 if you are a grunt then you know what the term, "force multiplier" means. Those few playing video games for the Army can motivate young people to join the Army. Some will even select a combat arms MOS.
Don’t forget about underwater basket weaver. 👍
I’m a 42R (Army musician), and I just arrived at my first duty station. In one of my in-processing briefs here, the 11B E6 told us to share our name and MOS. When I said 42R, he asked what that was, and I replied that I play guitar in the band. He was all like, “No way! Dude that is totally badass!!!” Yep, it is pretty challenging to get into the bands (my AIT class was tiny), but definitely worth it. Everyone comes in as an E4, regardless of whether or not you have a degree. Additionally, if you can get into one of the Premier Bands (42S), you go to E6.
Also an army musician here.
Giving a heads up to those wondering why 42S become E6. Those positions are symphony level competitive, and musicians of that caliber wouldn't bother with the military when they have way better opportunities elsewhere.
42R is also hard to get into but your chances of getting in are much higher if you're good. You can also always try again if you dont pass the audition. 42S auditions are sorta like once in a lifetime chances, and you're competing with hundreds of people who are qualified if not overqualified for 42R.
Also yeah, promotions in 42R are pretty damn competitive
Most soldiers who've deployed understand fully the benefits of all mos's. I've had soldiers sing the national anthem and water my eyes. They emotionally move and motivate the troops. Good luck to you. Enjoy your career. You'll have a music career that your friends won't be able to compare.
@@raymondjoseph7177 Thank you! I couldn’t agree more.
I have a question , do you have to know music theory?? Or just be good??
@@mcbins1993 Having some theory knowledge is definitely helpful, but the main thing they’re looking for is your playing ability.
My old band teacher was a 42R. He is still active, and was an amazing teacher.
My buddy was a 42R he was a bugle player he said he started playing the bugle because one of his grandfather's friends was a Korean war vet and during his funeral taps was played on a boom box and my friend said he never wanted another soldier to have taps played from a speaker so he learned to play the bugle when we turned 18 we joined the army 2003 he told the recruiter he was a bugle player and wanted to be on funeral details he had to try out but was picked up as a bugle player he has been doing for the last 20yrs he says every soldier who dies deserves to have a human play taps at their funeral
One of my old buddies was 25U and he was the C2 board operator for the CG’s Blackhawk when station in Hawaii
I'm a 42R with 3 years TIS. You are mostly right about the band; you'll definitely be playing whatever music your unit tasks you with, although heavy metal wouldn't necessarily be off the table. We're the Army's connection to American civilians, so if it has appeal and isn't controversial or too difficult to pull off, you might play any kind of music.
The only thing I'll say is that promotions can be tough. Because 42R has such high job satisfaction and, like you mentioned, a ton of college-educated enlisted personnel, it can be really hard to go from E4 to E5. That said, you do get to enlist at E4 regardless of your education because of the skill it takes to pass the audition.
🎺 Ah, my drill sergeant during yellow phase, at boot camp, was a 42R; a trumpet player, to be exact!
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 Now that's a unicorn in the Army if I've ever heard of one. We obviously had 42R Drill Sergeants at my AIT, but I've never heard of a 42R DS at BCT until now
If I'm not mistaken 18D SF medics get some veterinarian training in the Q course. Great video duder, just thought I'd add a comment to drop some knowledge for comment readers.
Doing a ovariohysterectomy on the kitchen table with the family dog after SOCM….because weekends are for the boys.
I started my career as a 25m multimedia illustrator. "Computer graphics". I was a professional photographer and wanted that job but there wasn't any slots open for 1 year. The school was at ft meade Maryland. Very nice quiet base close to everything in DC. The training was amazing. But i stopped in the 25v (photographer) course to look around. The equipment was the best in the industry. $30,000 lenses etc. All available for your use. You also learn video. Imagine flying in a helicopter taking video or stills of cool action packed stuff. Just an incredible opportunity for anyone. Great job Chris.
Yeah, I looked into 25V and 46S because I am interested in journalism but I only had one semester off from school I could take off to train so I took a job in transportation logistics; an 88N to be exact.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 just so you know. Keep an eye out for the 2 MOSs you wanted. You can reclass into those gigs. As far as i know you can only do the reclass when your current enlistment is up for re-up. But there are many many times the military will have shortages for slots and will allow lateral transfers into the mos. For them its a win for the receiver unit, because they dont have to wait for you to go through basic before they get you in unit. They can pull you into the unit, slot you as mos 00 which means you're waiting for school. So they get a body to help out and then send you to reclass school for the new mos. Also nice for you as you can get idea of unit daily ops so you know what you'll be doing when you get back. Good luck too you. Keep your eye on the end goal. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. Pace yourself.
Thanks,@@raymondjoseph7177 !
I knew a guy that joined the army for the athlete program. He had to select an MOS and go to OSUT. I'm guessing if boxing didn't work out for him they would just move him over to 19K. Once he was done with OSUT they stationed him in Colorado.
My kid is a 38b (civil affairs) and has described the job to me. Unfortunately, that description does not explain why a 26 week AIT at the JFK Special Warfare School, a TOP SECRET clearance and jump training are required to do the job they described. It sounded pretty simple. All the preparation does not.
I actually know someone who became a musician in the Army. She is having a blast and, great at it.
I worked in the hospital as a biomedical equipment technician repairing and medical equipment and x-ray systems
Did you like being a 68A?
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 When I was there I was 35 tango and went to a 35 uniform as a SSG.
68A is a skill set a person can use in the civilian sector. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we are talking about a 6 figure civilian job.
After I got out of the Army I worked for a private medical company in the early 80s . Then I got a job at the veterans administration and that was a GS 10-11.
I assume the 46S is a combination of the quebecs and romeos but I did quebec and it wasn't for me just because my unit could have disappeared and the only change that would have happened is the BC and Bn Commanders and SGMs would have been a little sad not seeing a paper with their exercises or initiatives in it. Maybe I just needed a mos with more concrete effect on the mission. One bonus though, for Change of Command ceremonies I showed up 15 minutes before, took photos of the change and then went right back to the office to process them so that's a nice thing.
Veterinarians go thru most of the classes in college as a doctor does, I heard it is harder to get into veterinarian school that regular medical school. They have phd’s in veterinarian medicine. They have to know pharmacology, how to do surgery, they have to know if the animals lab values are normal, and they have to understand pathophysiology. So, being a vet is no easy job. You have to pass a test and board to get your license. You also have to pass the DEA backround screening to get a license to prescribe medications.
A high school friend of mine is a vet. The competition just to qualify and be accepted to a veterinary school is difficult as well. Not many schools have a veterinary medicine program so they can be picky about who they accept.
A Vet has a much more difficult job than a doctor for humans. A Vets patients cannot describe how they feel or where they are experiencing pain. It's up to the Vet to determine that on his own.
A MOS that is often overlooked is 13F or forward observer. They’re artillery men that are attached to infantry and do fire control for the big guns 25 miles back. They live the infantry life but deal with less crap. And the promotion rates are even better than 11B. You can even get a Option 40, Rangers.
i was a fister. i thought it was hands down the coolest job in the army. giving THAT much lethal power to an 18-19 year old was the best thing ever.
Can you choose this MOS? Or do you get assigned to it? What is the required ASVAB score to be 13f?
@@CortezOutdoors you can choose this MOS if it’s available. The score needed is FA 96.
Nobody wants to be a gun bunny.
@@Bellthorian 13F isn’t a gun bunny. You’re thinking 13B.
All the Ranger guys on TH-cam say that Infantry is highly sought-after, especially by young officers. I think that there are two types of people who join the Army: those looking for a job and those looking for adventure.
Yeah but at the same time, combat MOS's are for egotistical people, toxic.
I was 88U, Railroad brakeman, clerk, engineer.
Cool! I considered that one but decided on something with wider civilian application so I selected Transportation Management Coordinator (88N).
I was in Virginia too; but I trained in Fort Lee while you were in Fort Eustis.
I was also an 88 Mike in the Wisconsin Guard. I enlisted in 1993 and got out in late 2001. I was at Ft.Eustis in 1999 for locomotive engineer training/certification.
I’d like to be a gamer in the marines cause then i’d also Get to shoot guns
Damn if only esports was available for national guard 😭 how else am I supposed to flex my 17C mos keyboard skills
I can tell you this, good jobs in the military period are not in clerical, like the S1, supply etc. They work all the time and it is a THANKLESS JOB. If you are in an Infantry unit, every body else will be out having a good time and you are working. The same if it is FA, CAV, it really doesn't matter
42R here, Hooah!! 2003-2018.
I've heard people bitch about how quickly musicians - in all branches - promote. Its the skills man... :)
The WCAP is very interesting to me. Didn’t know that was available. Do you have to be active to do that? I’m 31 looking at joining the reserves, have been a health/fitness/Jiu Jitsu instructor for the past decade.
Yes. That is an active-duty unit on Fort Carson that does that because they are training and competing all the time, so it would not work for a reservist or someone in the National Guard.
Its hard enough to get the 1st Sgt to sign off on a soldier to go take college classes. I have a hard time seeing a 1st Sgt allowing a soldier go play video games.
Don't believe it's something they would have to approve. It's more like the solder applies for it and if they got accepted they get orders to go to that unit in Fort Knox.
That’s why you don’t ask for permission.
Dude I need Six Days of Fallujah to come out
I am about to choose mos
Great Greetings from Luxembourg
Notifications platoon!!!
Are these things available for national guard?
depends on state
Esports and World Class Athlete Program, no. Others, maybe.
Anyone has thoughts on 56M religious affairs specialist?
Just curious, Christopher, but what was your MOS? Thanks.
🚚 Christopher Chaos has a couple of videos where he discusses being a Motor Transport Operator (88M) in his past army career.
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 Thanks.
Notification platoon
What Is a rotc
Any comment on all those Army soldiers dying in their bunks at Ft. Bragg and the Army chain of command say they "don't know what is happening"? Have you heard about that?
chaos tbh i dont join the military just for playing video games even though I love playing call of duty and sometime I got killed in multiplayer
so much of what you show in this video is unobtanium for the normal person ...
Research medicine
Is there any jobs that pretty much handles guns and maybe get to shoot them without going into action
Yoooo
What? We need 11B not video game players.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not
Need everybody. 🙄
@@lelandgaunt9985 Good in theory, but give me 11B or 0311 watching my six.
@@georgeacun3619 if you are a grunt then you know what the term, "force multiplier" means. Those few playing video games for the Army can motivate young people to join the Army. Some will even select a combat arms MOS.
@@domdrty Those who want combat arms will select combat arms, others will have illusions of playing video games.