Why Abarth Cant Make A 200BHP Stock 595.. For Now..
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- Abarth 595's have been running the same 1.4 turbocharged engine for a while now and whilst 200 BHP does not sound like a lot of power its a power figure that many Abarth owners have questioned as to why a standard car is not being produced with it. The reality is that without significant R&D and a new engine and thanks to emissions laws Abarth are currently tied. Now this doesn't mean that we wont ever see an Abarth 595 running stock power of over 200 BHP but i think we will have to wait a while for that to happen. We all know that modifying cars like the Abarth 595 Essesse or competizione will easily deliver power of over 200 bhp and run safely but it will breach emissions regulations. Here are my thoughts on it all.
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Dude! You got a new Abarth? I can’t believe I missed that video!
The banning of non-electric cars has been pushed forward to 2030. Rip
Here in the States we only got the 1.4T MultiAir, no T-Jets. Depending on the car, we got different power configurations.
500 Turbo (non-Abarth): 135hp/150lb
500 Abarth Automatic: 157hp/183lb
500 Abarth Manual: 160hp/170lb
500x & 500L: 160hp/184lb
124 (non-Abarth): 160hp/184lb
124 Abarth: 164hp/184lb
While the numbers seemed small, a lot of us were upset that the 500 Abarth MT was shorted 10lbs of torque compared to the rest of the FIAT range. Without any physical mods, and using piggyback systems or tunes, we have also reliably gotten 200hp+ out of the 1.4T MultiAir blocks. Combine that without any special editions, we felt like we were getting the short stick from "Abarth" (aka MOPAR engineers in Abarth hats).
I know we have less restrictions on petrol/gasoline than you guys (at least it seems that way) and legal allowances for aftermarket mods vary state to state. I'm in Las Vegas, so for me it's just an ODBII scan for codes and that's it. My neighbors in California have a visual inspection along with OBDII scans. In Massachusetts it's a multipoint vehicle inspection. So, depending on where you live, you might have to rip off all visually noticeable mods.
However, doesn't matter which side of the pond you are on, you're not going to see anymore development on either of the 1.4 blocks because the 1.3T Firefly is what is going to replace the 1.4 T-Jet & MultiAir. The 500X with the 1.3T is putting out 177hp/210lbs. I'd gladly take that extra 40lbs in a 500 Abarth.... Oh wait, no more 500 in North America :(
Thank you for such a great comment! Yeah I’m expecting a new engine once FCA have finished working on their electric range
Nice Job Stef, well done!
Happy Christmas holidays! A big hug.
Thank you! You too!
Abarth is beautiful, I am disappointed that it has been discontinued in America.
I can't even find a "repair manual" with diagrams.
What a great video and great explanations!
As an Abarth owner, I can say that every time I take my 695 biposto I have a smile on my face. It’s such a fun car.
An Abarth needs to have a special exhaust. An Abarth electric without the exhaust...no way.
Biposto is such a awesome car!
Abarth should focus more on upgrade parts.
They already have a great platform to work on and culture of abarth it's the customization
The 6 speed gearbox it's one great example. they should make it and will sell like hot cakes
I recognise those roads driven them many times Great vid as always
Thanks man
After watching Your reviews at the beginning of 2019 I wanted to buy a ESSESSE so badly...but the seats won’t fit my back 195cm/112kg 🤪
So in July endet up with getting a Rivale 695 with seats that fit me. Like I mentioned earlier it puts a smile on my face ever since the first day...
This coming summer 2020 will get either 200 or 230hp into it but if I’d go with 230 I’d also need the mechanical differential (6800.-€ more) have to think about that one...
I think like You said Stefan it’s a awesome platform and yes it makes You feel like a hooligan but in a good way. 6 gear well I’m driving it on landscape roads (lots of curves) not Autobahn or highway so basically fine with 5.
Let’s see what the future brings...hope to see You all in Milano maybe 2020 be good and have a happy new year 🎊
Had the same back issue and went with the Rivale - love it
Rivale is a great car! Love it! Yep hopefully see you there!
Stef ABtv would be awesome 😎
Woo more Abarth content! 🙌🔥
Great video. Food for thought.
6th gear is the thing that is the most important... Let us tinker and put our own R&D into pushing the power. That is one of the things everyone in the community loves. What I enjoyed the most on the Abarth Days 2019 was to see literally a 1000 same cars, but not 2 exactly the same - everyone adds their ow special sauce and personality tho their Abarth from a sticker to an extra 100 BHP...
Most of the very successful cars in history were tunable. If they squeeze everything from the engine from the get go, the stickers are the only thing we are left of with...
I have a 2018 Pista (Euro 6). No mods. And I can assure you that it bangs when going from 3rd to 4th. Just rev it to 3500-4000 and then change... BANG! No pops and bangs on idle or when lifting gas... but that last Euro 6 Batch, before the Euro6D one, still offered some bang for the price.
Same, 2021 tjet though
Stef Hi, surely if you want a 200 brake Abarth, and you drive a 180 Comp you just take it to Tony for a remap, like dozens of us have. Job done,easy peasy. All the best for the new year. Jerry
The 695 Biposto is to me the most beautiful Abarth ever made, even if I own a 595 Competizione 70° Anniversary myself and before this, I owned a 595 Trofeo / Pista. I really the new model as well, 695 70° Anniversario, that lovely 595 EsseEsse, etc... But when it comes to talk about the 695 Biposto, that is a really special car and that is why we all love it in the community. It is like a beautiful lady you can't afford, but you can dream of her, of course. Regards from Belgium, keep on the good work dear Stef.
Thanks mate! Yep the biposto is a winner! Stunning car! Congrats on a 70th Anniversario!
Interesting video Stef, I fancy an Abarth at some point, I used to prefer the Cooper S but it isn’t really that Mini anymore. Having driven the wife’s Fiat 500 lounge, I love it and wish she’d got an Abarth! You’re right they are concentrating on what really sells. Can’t afford to do what Mini did and change the whole platform, meaning they could ditch the horrible 1.6 PSA engine in the Cooper S and whack a 2.0 BMW engine in it. Don’t want PSA, the engines are pants, I had a 207 GTi, the camshaft pulley is held (or not in my case) in place by the friction from one centre bolt with no key way! I wouldn’t be too worried about having an Abarth remapped myself.
just got one now and hold onto it.
Nice video stef, you in Marbella this year?
I think the PSA merge might save the 500 and varients of small abart platform as they have a 1.2 3 pot turbo cable of 150 bhp in stock form this with a map and a few bits and that crucial 6th gear may make it the economics choice for the hot hatch, fait/abarth with the PSA merger need to capitalize on something no one else is and that is these are convenient cheap to run fast cars mini is going the wrong way by making the cars and the engines bigger, food for thought...
Great vid keep it up!
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Thank you Paul!
Welcome brother!! I have a fiat here in the states and no one understand why I own it until they drive it. It’s great having content for something I truly enjoy
Hi Stef! Congratulations on the channel and content. What do you think is the power limit to which the car does not lose that usability and fulfillment factor? (Keeping the Garrett 1446)
Keep on doing a great job!
230bhp it will run fine. Loads of cars run that power and as long as you maintain and let the car warm up and cool down you should be fine
Character is more important than the power in my opinion, not bothered about 200bhp if it means it doesn't bring as much of a smile to my face as my abarth does now.
that's right, kid. can't be bothered your moms 1997 ford taurus that looks like a sausage and goes to the laundromat is faster.
I mean, the slower you drive the more the ladies can look at you, right?
why even drive? just park it and lay over the hood, bro. sexy.
Very insightful! It will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years... I'm just hoping Fiat see this video and decide to prove you wrong 😁
Haha cheers mate! Would be mega
Amazing Fiat 595 Abarth! This car is so amazing that it does not need to have 200 hp to have fun! And, by the way, next year we will have Euro 7, so every automaker should switch to hybrids or electric cars in order to comply with the regulations and be able to produce quick and fast cars.
Hello Stefan! 2020 Abarth will release a John Player (black & gold) and (another) Yamaha Monster Abarth Edition. Also they are currently working on a 5-door Abarth (which will be released in 2-3 years) and we can expect to see a full electric Abarth in around 5-6 years. This information was given to our Abarth Club by the FCA Country Manager himself and he also pointed out that they dont have any plans at all to stop the production of Abarths.
That would be very cool! Not heard of the above yet though!
Bongiorno stef! Just watched your 200bhp story, well I don't think things will change much, the 500 has basically stayed the same since 2009 apart from a face-lift, power options, editons, trim levels, extras etc it's still basically the same car, I think it's their
"if it ain't broke don't fix it" policy also I think the merge with psa won't help unless mabe they decide to put one of there engines in the Abarth, if it will fit lol , also they are already pulling the 500 range out of the USA and and I hear fiat will be concentrating on bigger cars in the future so the only all new 500 will be electric only but the existing petrol versions including the abarth will be still available in the future and I believe the panda and punto'a days are numbered aswell so it doesn't bowed well for small Italian cars what with the 500 large and x and with everything going hybrid or fully electric aswell, there's an old Italian saying "the Italian peoples love for small Italian cars" as we know this is so true for many reasons particularly in the Abarths case, I personally think the abarth has enough power as it is, its plenty quick enough for me, if you want more power it's easy from a simple remap to a bigger turbo and injectors like you did with your 595, but I see your point of view and yes it does need a 6th gear I had a punto sporting with, 6speed and I with my Abarth has that gearbox, it mated perfectly with the engine and its power, the abarth gearbox is too tall and loses power through the gears also you can really miss gears like I could in the punto! And the end of the day the 500 abarth is an awesome little car and with its power to weight ratio which is its nemesis, it feels like a much more powerful car because of that so all is not lost, nothing comes close to an Abarth In that respect and as we know life's far too short not to have one in our life.... Hope my comments are useful sorry if I've waffled on too much, all the best in 2020...👍😉
Thanks for a great insight! It’s never waffle when we talk about cars :) will be great for people to read
I got rid of mine years ago and I miss it so much
Love your vids, made my first mod to my abarth the other day and hope for more soon, my friend has a corsa vxr and he keeps on about his 210 bhp so the aim is to wipe the smirk off his face 😂 someday, someday
Haha I’m sure you will! These Abarths are quick with some mods :)
I used to have the abarth punto evo supersport, got it mapped to 210hp. Great little car, shame they don't make the punto anymore
Wish they still did make the Punto abarth
Went to the dealer in Cannes this morning, will be road testing the Esseesse next week with a soft top.
What do you think about the Automatic transmission?
MTA transmission is good. Prefer the manual on these cars personally though
Ive had the standard 2011 abarth 500 with 135bhp but tuned it to 180/190. Would you recommend getting the 595 that has 160bhp? They are roughly the same price to buy if I go same year but not sure whether its worth paying more to insure it or not
its a shame...allready punto abarths stopped production a year ago.only 500 left and no changes,and i dont see future after we joined peugeot..
We don’t have emissions hear in Canada
Good content.👍It's so true though..having owned tons of fast Ford's etc through the years and finally taking the plunge and purchasing an abarth 500(low mile minter),it does make me smile ,and the term hooligan is correct,as you say the way it's build and set up...mine with suspension mod's,monza,middle box delete and remap to 180 I find that figure not too shabby and perfect for the chassis with a nice pop and crackle between shifts.. however I've yet to have a blast in a more powerful one,I'd imagine it's fun and scary..
They are very fun for sure!! :)
Just acquired a 595 turismo 65 plate can you recommend a good remapping company in the midlands ...more abarth content please !! Please !!
Abarth should now use 1.8L or 2.0 L turbo engines to reach 250 hp without affecting emission.
It doesn't get more powerfull for being small hatch aswell fwd. Anyway the point is the brands is very conservative due to being short on cash, but hopefully the next 500 will get the needed platform to handle more hp
Stef, pretty sure Fiat is going to drop the 500 and the Panda. They've already said the A segment is not profitable enough to justify developing a new car (or cars) to replace the old Panda and 500.
They both sell really well but the profit margins are really low.
On the other hand, it's pretty much guaranteed we'll have a new Punto in the near future. And I'm sure there'll be an Abarth model.
Thats a confirmed misinformation which was pushed and published by media but in fact is not true at all.
@@MuhKuh9ft13 Quoting Mike Manley:
“In the very near future, you will see us refocus on this higher-volume, higher-margin segment, and that will involve a move away from the minicar segment.”
Is there any confirmed source of any sorts saying otherwise or even confirming there would be a new 500 in the works?
Higher co2 output form a high output engine would just mean the fine they get at the end of this year will be even bigger. What they need is to make the 500 electric to keep there emmsions under the 95 average for cars
Is that the 17 inch rims?
The day FCA allows the 2.9 V6 of the Giorgio platform go into some Peageot I will put up my Giulia Quadrifoglio for sale. That will be one sad day Steff.
Yiorgos Dedes I hope not 😩
The Giulia is the world's most unreliable new car anyways, get rid of it asap...
It is very reliable to me and so have all my Alfas been. In any case, it all depends how one uses its cars.
@@georgiosdedes how many miles does it have though? And if you baby it it might last longer but theres zo many issues with the car its sad because its beautiful
@@2Skills4u As mentioned, I never ever had any serious issues with my Alfas over the past 30 years of ownership. But I do take care of them, yes. The Giulia Q is a completely different product to any of my previous Alfas. The Giorgio platform has been developed based on the design philosophy of operability, maintainability and survivability. Considering the constraints of the project, Alfa has met its main objective which was to create a package that is competitive against equivalent proposals from other manufacturers in this segment. The car is not cheap to run but one cannot expect this from such a product in this segment.
I service it according to the factory requirements and recommendations and that implies that it goes into the service shop once a year for all checks, oil change, etc.
Neither the C63S AMG nor the M3/M4 cars are cheap, nor more reliable. I have friends who run these cars and there is no black and white as ownership, styles of driving nd areas may differ considerably.
My car is brand new out of the production line at the Cassino plant in September 2017 but first put on the road in April 2018 as I did not wish to run it first time in the winter months after delivery. I live in Europe. Since then, the engine has covered 16,000 miles which dependent on what part of the world you come from may not seem that much. I drive it every day to work as a daily driver to commute to work and for pleasure trips in the weekends. Once a year, it gets the chance to drive on a long journey to Italy where I push the car. During the 16,000 miles, it has had two oil changes and no other engine, drive train or else needed change or repair. I'd say that the engine is about done with the breaking in period. The car behaves and feels as good today as it was when I took delivery of it.
For the sake of it; the most miles I have ever covered in my other Alfas without the need for restoration of the engine is 200,000 miles. This was on my Alfa 147. I have owned 7 different Alfa Romeo models and I can assure you that the Giulia Quadrifoglio is the best by far. The car is just as reliable if not better than any other cars I have driven or owned including German equivalents.
I first and only 500 is a 500E all electric here in the states. Don't knock EVs until you drive them. Its fantastic
A 'Hybrid' Abarth would get you to 200hp :-)
They could just stick a small electric motor with the petrol engine and it would easily be over 200 bhp, massively improve low down torque and reduce emissions at the same time.
Agree but they need to do the R&D for that first. There will be other cars under FCA that need to go electric first
@@StefABtv I think that FCA has merged with PSA so might start having more electric cars in the FCA group.
145ps more useable power ihi turbo kicks in quicker than the Garrett turbo on 165/180ps models.
Now let me think, what area in the road traffic act relates to “solid double white lines”
SAD
Hey mate, great video, I’m pretty new here but keep up the good work… I’ve got an Abarth Punto Evo Supersport 2014 (180BHP)… is this the same engine, turbo etc as what’s in your 595?
Fred Thompson the Evo is a Multiair engine while the 595 is the t-jet. Same turbo ☺️
Do you know roughly what BHP my multiair engine could run?
Fred Thompson Many have seen 205-210 with just an induction kit, tuning box and the GFB+
With a proper remap and some supporting mods, you’d comfortably see 230bhp (remembering to run it on optimum fuel and oil). Fun as hell 😈
Fred Thompson a good point of reference is the 124 Abarth (with regards tuning). Search TH-cam on that as it’s the same engine 🙌🏻
With the FCA and PSA merger and the inevitable switch to electric perhaps we'll see the hot renault zoe prototype become a reality and a new abarth 595 sharing the same platform?
Samuel Spink renault is not from psa
@@davevanderham998 that is a very good point. That's probably why I shouldn't post my ideas on TH-cam when I've only just got out of bed. Ever since I saw that concept though it's made me slightly excited about the idea of electric hot hatches
Not sure if others have said this, maybe Abarth 595 should focus on making the car lighter if they can't get more than 190BHP. Advertise it as spartan and deliberately non-technology focused hahaha. I love my comp. No mods as yet, but eventually I will. But for where I live the power to fun ratio is just right!
Do all the facelift Abarths (2016 and newer) have a worse sounding exhaust then?
Euro 6 means less pops and bangs
On a separate note, I was never sure why the US Abarth 500 was launched with the 1.4 MultiAir used in the Abarth Punto Evo in Europe.
The 1.4 Multiair blocks used and made by FCA US were already equipping the Dodge Dart, so it only made sense to get them on the american 500s.
Multiairs are also more fuel efficient, so emissions are lower.
@@diogo266 Yes, it's a great unit. My APE used to be very fuel efficient with stunning performance - a very smooth free revving engine. Perhaps my question should have been 'why not fitted to European Abarth 500s rather than the TJet?''
@@markahomer That's a great question. Perhaps because the T-Jet unit is cheaper? Either that or just the italians being italians.
Yes it seems odd that only the USA and punto get this engine! Other than chrysler using it in their own cars so it makes sense to them for the US spec 500, The tjet is more robust and reliable, the mutiair needs specific oil and frequent changes or you could wreck the head, the tjet is a strong useful engine and has been around for along time, the power output is no Iess than the mulitair engine in the 500but more in the punto ,think its around 175bhp!
@@marinobottali4170 My 2012 APE had 165 bhp stock (if I recall correctly) although I believe some were dyno-ing more. An Essesse dealer upgrate was available taking it to 180 bhp. I think the last run of APEs came with 180 bhp out of the factory. I recall the forums exposing the odd early MultAir head failure but I don't believe it was widespread - espicially as the unit was widely used in the Fiat line up. Yes - essential that 'MultiAir' oil used or long term head/valve failure inevitable.
They were sticking the 135 bhp MultiAir in the Fiat Punto Evo Sport so why European Abarth 500s got the Tjet remains an enigma.
I think you have hit the nail on the head with your comment about sales. How many Fiat 500 are Abarth speced?
At the end of day in business it is all about sales and the bottom line. Nice to have a flag ship car, but does it sell.
A way to cheat a little is to over bore the block to 1500cc.
It's been the same Turbo 1.4 engine since the 1985 Fiat Uno Turbo! If you want a 200bhp Hot Hatch Mini, factory stock unmodified, get a Vauxhaul Corsa VXR 1.6 Turbo Nürburgring Edition!
Same reason it’s still running a five speed gearbox and is on the same platform that was released over a decade ago. FCA have constantly and criminally underfunded their lineup. If it wasn’t for the 500 Fiat would essentially be dead. They keep Abarth ticking along with a load of specials for as long as they can but there’s only so many editions of the same car you can make.
A rapid electric abarth might be fun 😃
I'd love to see a 300hp awd Abarth
I have a 595 got sport cat, exhaust, intake
Who would I look at for a une
Tune4performance mate
@@StefABtv cheers mate
The question is; do I want a better or more powerful 595? That would be a different car.
Electric Abarth? No thanks. What would the exhaust sound like, a sewing machine? I’m keeping my 2019 Abarth and adding an ECM module which will bring it up to 200. So many mods available. Great video btw!
Thank you 🙌🙌
This is the new Abarth "Essay Essay..?" 😄
3DFX how else would one pronounce it? 🧐
SS - like Super Sport. Esse Esse
You do realise SS in Italian is pronounced essay-essay 😂
@@grimecritic6511 nope, wrong. It's pronounced "ese ese" with a long "s"
@Rabbi Shekelberg In italian the E is pronunced like the A in "And", so you say SS like "esse esse", or in english "es es"
May be PSA put the Peugeot 208 T16 engine with 875HP on the Abarth!!
i don't get it,the new ones are euro6 but emissions class F,wtf
Abarth need to change the platform, chassis, styling of the car.
WHAT NO
When we come out of the EU will that affect this ruling ??
I doubt our emissions rules will change at all. Allowing higher emissions is a stwp backwards so they "won't" do it. In fact I doubt we'll notice much change in our daily lives on a day to day basis.
Not sure mate. Will have the wait and see.
Probably not. The EU is still a bigger market than the UK, and developing a product specifically for the UK would be financially stupid, especially if there are a lot of people who would buy it anyway. But maybe they could get the weight down a bit, that might actually be more interesting.
Tjet engine dates back to original Fire unit. Bet you've never spoken to anyone in FPT or Elasis?
Abarth could just put in a 6 or 7 speed gearbox in it that could help with the emission so they can add more power in the engine.. they didn't do it because i think abarth just broke... they dont want to spend any money to develop in the 500,595 and 695, even the 124..
I think fiat should give us more options. If i want to order a 500 with a more powerful engine i do not mind paying the cash. To fiat and the fiat dealers......all you have to do is ASK us as a buyer what we want and the money will come to you.......just ask!!!
It won't help. They don't want their fleet emissions to be screwed up. Dealers get extra bonuses these days if they sell weaker, more efficient cars.
It’s because Fiat Abarth don’t make any electric or hybrid cars ⚡️
Not yet. I’m sure it will come. It has to
Please correct me if I am wrong but isn't the correct way to pronounce Abarth A Bart and not Abartttthhhhh?
That’s the proper way to pronounce yep
If you are Italian.
“Es see say”
"ess" "ess".
Like a Camaro
Hello peeps
Hello 👋
New cars just wont be worth buying soon
If abarth goes electric i won't buy another
As for the 200 bhp and possibility of a six speed gearbox the six speed gearbox could probably fit as a 1.4 100hp of 2007 had a 6 speed but and like you said but explain with just a six speed for example to Mr insurance or EU emissions department we've got a fiat 500 and yes it is a 500 at the end of the day that will do 155 mph they're going to be laughing more than us when we blow away a BMW driver acting Mr big
So is it going to happen I personally think no
The EU gotta spoil all the fun.
Abarth are flogging a dead horse with their current range. Just part bin specials to try and eeek a little extra revenue out of a dying model. The 124 could have been special but was priced stupidly for the performance on offer. This inevitably lead to low sales and killed it. I think we are nearing the end of the brand in the next few years, to be feasible the development cycle should have started years ago for an EV Abarth if it were standalone. FCA seem late to the EV game in general. EV also doesn't seem compatible with the currently marketed brand ethos which will have to change. Other manufacturers have released 2-3 entirely new models since the first abarth 500 came on sale. The car has a chassis over 10 years old. Lack of R&D has killed Abarth in general.
@Sebastian Hellie because our shitty countries love to tax the shit out of us
BHP means nothing. Power to weight on a 180bhp Abarth is more than on a Fiesta ST, Hyundai I20 N, Mini JCW, Pug GTi. The Abarth doesn't need more power from the factory to compete.
The new 500 electric looks sick I hope they do an electric abarth
With all the speed bumps and cameras what’s the point of having a super fast car (or bike).
It’s a shame isn’t it :(
Yes, you are Correct.
You have answered your own question.
But, if you Really do want it, and can discipline yourself, buy it!
Fiat u.s are going to stop selling the fiat 500s in the u.s by next year they don't get the special editions to its a shame .the u.s car market is so boring they need change the u.s 500 abarth had more bhp then the European one also has cruise control to.
Also Fiat u.s own these car brands to Fiat Chrysler Automobiles owns Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Maserati, and Ram
It's an R&D cost issue and no more, and for the pub top trumps iv'e got 200hp to your 180 does it really matter in the real world?
It’s more we have had the same platform for so long and I love the engine but would like to see more out of it from factory. Either way the car is great fun and you will still enjoy driving it at 180bhp
It's not essay essay, it's s s. That's all
Driving a Punto Evo pushing 270 bhp
#voteleave
I was going to buy an arbarth, but for 5k I bought an R53 Cooper s with 170bhp and 30k on the clock, and it's much faster. 500s don't handle well on the limit.
Why do you want a 200bhp abarth from the factory when its easy to upgrade an Abarth to 200 anyway?
Sod the new car emissions.
Just for bragging rights I guess, also if you buy a 180bhp one and modify it you'll possibly lose warranty.
Electric Abarth? Stop swearing!
Lol it will happen I think
Why 200 it's good as is
A fiat running reliability. Yeah next joke 😂😂
Your joke must be from Jeremy Clarkson's mouth circa 1986.. They are very reliable cars.
Stephen300o they look shit and they drive even worse
Danny Jenkins your obviously 12yr old, so what do you know about driving, apart from your dad‘s Playstation
kid, you forgot to tell people multi air engines are absolutely terrible.
the 500 abarth does not use this which is why it makes more power and is faster and much simpler to tune.
Prefer mini s r56
why no 200bhp !?! well with 200bhp your 1.4 engine won't live long !! your 180bhp barely going to get a lifespan of 100k miles !! NOTHING TO DO WITH ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS, 200bhp and euro 6 is easy you just need a bigger engine ! i'm someone who knows something about car mechanics and i will honestly tell you i would have bought the 145bhp version with depowerings option to 135bhp ! the engine will live longer and never be in need of expensive repairs !! WHAT CAN I SAY? I'M A REAL CAR GUY WHO WORKS ON HIS OWN CAR, your just a "car lover" who nows nothing about car mechanics and only sees "BPH"
For a bigger engine you need R&D
@@StefABtv or you buy an other engine with another company
Make better content and you do not have to beg tor clicks.