Luke's black outfit that he wears in this movie is low-key the best fit in all of Star Wars. It's pretty subtle, but next time you watch the movie, pay attention to it and just admire how stylish he is.
yea that was great dialogue. Only part where I semi-disagree with the video tho he does say it was interesting just doesnt agree with the way it was presented which i respect because the officer coming in like "blah blah blah" does immediately start the energy off very low
I'm not making excuses but Han and Leia are probably played so weird because of the fact that Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher were constantly partying and showing up drunk.
Daniel Earl He pretty much was. From what I recall the actors were all tired by the time Jedi came around they just wanted this shit to be over with lol. (At least Harrison did).
Honestly if they had used Wookies instead of Ewoks would made the movie a lot better. For christs sakes even without weapons those Wookies would be ripping storm troopers arms off.
I was so blind when i was 6 i thought the ewoks were the wookies. Then again my dad kept switching channels showing revenge of the sith and return of the jedi
Plus, you know that canonically, Kashyyk (and therefore the Wookies) was under the Empire's control, because it was a key world. Plus, the Empire enslaved the Wookies, so...
@@straighttothecore8131 Well but i think that was decided Well after the production of this Movie so they couldve Just taken wookies and i also Heard that wookies were Planned but to expensive.
*starts throwing random shiz around and even though I am a master Jedi i miss almost every shot and the one shot i hit wasn't because of my accuracy* (Yoda's fight with Palpatine is the reference, when they were in the conference room.)
The one revelation that the Sci-Fi Universe article that hit me hardest came in the first item: "How intensely were the Ewoks marketed? Consider this: 'Ewok' is a household word, despite the fact that it’s never once spoken in the film."
Over confidence...like the USA in Vietnam. Or more exactly, like the leaders back home in America and their attitudes to the primitave Vietanmese. Luke even calls out Shive on this.
Bad things: 1) Boba Fett goes out like a punk. 2) Bad green screens. 3) Ewoks & child-friendly tone. Good things: 1) Best space battle of the OG trilogy. 2) Emotional conflict. 3) Lightsaber fights. 4) Amazingly satisfying ending.
Boba Fett is just a damn bounty hunter. Before the extended universe masturbated over him, he was just a guy who rode a dinosaur, tracked and delivered Han, then died in a fight, that's it.
@@AlejoConejo-vb8ln in the extended Canon, which is moot and has nothing to do with the events of the original trilogy. On those merits alone, Fett is just a guy with a cool outfit that gets merked as any other goon. Good riddance.
Also, well to be blunt, he and Lea hadn't had any alone time yet. Maybe he was worried the whole time if Little Solo was all the way out of the carbonite.
The one thing I'll say in defense about the scene with Luke and Darth Vader on the bridge is that if they wanted to fight each other, they would have fought each other. I actually think that's one of the best moments in the movie. They gave the two characters a chance to actually breathe. I also think it was important for the Ark of Darth Vader that he didn't want the fight luke. You can feel that torment as he tries to suppress the good side creeping back in when faced with his son who is purposefully speaking calmly and gently to him, man to man. I think it's a good scene. It makes the fight scene later a bit more powerful because you know Vader doesn't want to do it.
@@richardthemagician8991yea that makes absolutely no sense, you aren’t on the fence on anything, you are defending a clear point. Take the typo with dignity
Before watching this video Jedi was my favorite Star Wars film. After watching this Jedi is still my favorite Star Wars film, but you brought up some good points.
I agree i still love the movie and its still my favorite of all the star wars movies or second or maybe third(honestly i can’t decide which of the three originals is my favorite) but he did come up with some great points
The end battle and jabas palace save this film. Besides that his points really are true though. It just comes down to how much do you like the new fast paced lightsaber scenes because it does have the best lightsaber scenes in the trilogy
I recognize this movie has flaws and pacing issues galore but you're a damn liar If you say it doesnt wrap up Luke and Vader's character arcs PERFECTLY and deserves to be highly respected for that much.
Well, yeah... It's widely known to be the only redeeming quality of Jedi. Luke, Vader and Palpatine carried the whole damn movie on their backs while the others were just fuckin around.
ANH and Empire both had distinct beginnings, middles, ends. The Endor stuff seems to mix the middle and endings together. They should have had Coruscant be the end of the film as apparently originally intended. Look at Blade Runner, Cloud City in Empire, the Spacedock scenes in Star Trek 3, the space battle and death star run in Jedi. They could have done it and made it look reasonably good.
@@jaoh6659 I think they had already spent a record amount (at the time) on the budget. It's gotta be tons cheaper to just go out in the Redwood Forres than it would have been to build a convincing city set.
Honestly I come back to this video every now and again just for that rant lmao. "They're not f***** brass instruments so how are they making that noise?" lmfao
Geralt of Trivia ok, 1. just because someone makes a good thing doesn’t mean everything they make is good. 2. rian johnson only directed that episode. he didn’t write it.
I actually had the pleasure of showing my parents Star Wars from the prequels to this film. They themselves are disappointed seeing number VII and saying “what’s the point, everything is wrapped up, there is a nice story of redemption and the emperor is dead.” I just left it like that, no need to hit my head on a wall while watching the sequels because it will make no sense to them. Also had you seen the 2D clone wars? I was surprised that Episode III references Anakin’s adventures in the outer rims. I did not expect that. Loved every prequel even episode I...
Eloi oh I had done so. We started from Ep1 and included even the cartoon stuff to Solo and Rogue One. Funny thing is that we watched Rogue One with A New Hope back to back so it actually felt really special doing so.
John Randall I haven’t seen the new ones yet but hearing the reception it’s positive. My only gripes is Ashoka being everywhere. I watched it when I was 8 but now 12 years later I always tried but simply can’t get with the show. It’s the most difficult show to get by...
People complaining about bobas death baffle me. He was never really established to be some amazing cool guy at this point. He was just another random bounty hunter that people latched on to cause they thought his armour was cool. Since then we've got more stuff from the EU and shit. At the time boba was a nothing character. George himself has said he was just another minion. His death was kinda comical, so? Star wars fans really like 2 movies and think they love the franchise. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but nitpicks like bobas death are frustrating.
Okay, he was the one who tracked Han to Bespin. He was clearly not just a random character who had cool armor, he had skills above the other bounty hunters. He was also the only one who slowed Luke down at all on his rampage in the same movie. Top it all off with Star Wars fans being really into every minor character, and it's not surprising people were upset about his comedic death.
People like to say it's because of the armor but the bigger draw with boba fett is that he's the only henchman that threatens the main characters. He tracks the falcon down, captures han solo, and would've probably blasted luke in the hallway if he wasn't trying to lead him to vader (who up to that point personally killed no one that was actually fighting back). He's clearly more dangerous than the stormtroopers, and his death in jedi makes fans upset because any generic goon could have taken his place and it would've changed nothing. A good example of how he should've worked is karl in die hard (spoilers if you haven't seen die hard, which you should). He acts differently than the rest of the goons, has a bigger gun, and nearly kills mcclane many times while the other goons get shot to bits. It takes a long brawl scene where he's thashing bruce willis for most of it to ALMOST kill him, and even then he outlives the rest of the bad guys and is killed by another character to resolve his character arc.
Yes he was just a bounty hunter but he was also the coolest one and the only one that most people remember or know the name of and he had a jetpack. I think that's the problem we were just starting to think wow this is a really cool character and then instead of utilizing him in the third movie they just killed him in a pretty unspectacular way.
I loved this film, Marcus is a sack of crap filled with illogical persuasion of finding flaws when he doesn’t understand the point of the Boush or the fact that Empire establishes that force users can see the future. Considering Luke is strong with the force he was able to plan out the situation in Jabba’s Hutt. Marcus is a fanboy yet shits on the film’s setting. I think ROTJ is fine it’s a petty argument that broke my interest in Marcus’s opinions. Especially after him calling Prequel fans as idiots...
Don’t forget the part where a highly advanced and tactical army of well trained soldiers with tools of death and destruction lost to midget bears with pointy wooden sticks and rocks Yea the Empire, reeeeal menacing when they can be beat up easy by reject care-bears
@William Robb there's a quote somewhere from Lucas that the Ewoks were supposed to be Wookies but the budget didn't allow for it i personally call bullshit but definitely something to think about
@theninjamaster67 I mean I can see the budget along with many different problems factoring into it: 1. Budget - Making costumes that large and fitting them, then also the makeup artists involved for 100+ people every day (for multiple days) will cost a lot. 2. Extras - Finding 100+ people that are 7ft tall (Chewbacca's height approx.) is not that easy either. I personally think wookiees would have been better, but personally I don't tend to mind a whole lot, considering there are meant to be thousands of them and they did capture the main cast at some point and they don't just serve as eye candy considering we see quite a few of them die.
Leia using the grenade was to show Jabba that, not only is her motivation for collecting a bounty, but to also solidify herself as a legitimate character of the underworld, by using a fierce negotiating tactic. Of COURSE if the grenade is set off, no one wins, but that's not the point. The point is to sacrifice a few teammates in order for everyone to escape together. It's impossible to rescue only one, so the plan was to fully infiltrate their criminal enterprise and rely on R2 being able to fire out Luke's lightsaber to him at the right time. Of course, this requires a lot of things to line up perfectly for Luke (which I'm not a fan of), but that is the point of the entire setup. It makes sense, but you have to exit your current state as a "TH-cam critic" and think from different perspectives. Also, not telling C3PO about the plan was a GOOD thing. C3PO is a blabbermouth. He can't keep secrets. He'd most likely give away the plan, which is why it was the safer risk to put him in that situation with R2 without knowing anything.
Lando had already infiltrated for weeks at that point lmao, at pretty much any point he could have unfrozen Han when nobody was there and walked out. The entire plan is absolutely ass-backwards stupid and NONE of it makes any sense. Keep in mind that Jabba and his people had to sit silently in the dark for, what, 7 hours? waiting for Leia to show up to free solo - of which they had no idea she was Leia or that her objective was to release Han or when she would do it. There's your different perspective lol, it's an incredibly idiotic scene. I appreciate that you're trying to apologize for it and find the good in it, but the bad/dumb/unbelievable FAR outweighs any good in it.
"I wasn't alive when Return of the Jedi came out" Well, I was - 11 years old - and let me tell you, that theater experience was beyond any other. I love RotJ.
i may not have as important of an input because im 15, but I personally love the prequels because that’s what i grew up on. Obviously the movies suck but the nostalgia for me keeps them
@@thearchivist250 we have a new standard now, however. i agree with you that rotj is better than any prequel, but that doesn't mean the prequels are the worst star wars there is. yes tpm is garbage except for the final duel, and aotc is very boring apart from a few awesome stuff with clones, but revenge of the sith pulled clutch with that trilogy and gave it the ability to still be reguarded somewhat well. i would not, however, say that the force awakens is better than revenge of the sith.
C-3PO is very hesitant about lying to the teddy bears so Luke telling him the plan wouldn't be a great idea. Also sending R2 likely wouldn't be enough as he's an astromech droid, not much use for that kind of palace, they end up just using him as a table. 3PO ends up being very useful to Jabba with his translations
What I like: •Vader’s redemption •Luke’s arch •Nien Nunb •The final battle in space •The animatronics •The sets •The editing and effects •The sound design •Mark Hamill’s preformance •Palpatine •Luke unmasking Vader (this is my favorite scene in the franchise) •Leia meeting Wicket for the first time. This was just hella adorable. I can’t explain why I love this scene. •Yoda’s death •The last scene •Vader’s funeral The shit I don’t like: •Harrison Ford’s performance •Boba Fett’s potential as a threatening force •The opening scene on the Death Star •The pacing •The length of Endor: I’m okay with the Ewoks but it should NOT take up all of Act II. It kills the pacing. • Death Star II So pretty good flick. Great conclusion to the most influential movie trilogy EVER. 8/10
William Eckerle It feels too slow. Granted it isn’t BAD, but the film is treating it as a bombastic opening with Vader’s theme blaring and his march, but nothing in reality is happening. Vader is just telling the moff that his little science project is tardy and papa Palps is coming Yea I know the emperor is a big deal but even before Vader announced the arrival the theme was BLARING
The object appearing in view of our sight is equal to and identical to that of something being intent in of halting our progress and thwarting our plans (it’s a trap)
That's why C3PO has his memory wiped in Episode 3. Which must be like resetting his programming because he is still fluent in six million forms of communication. I think when they did it because they did not want info leaked to the Empire if they got a hold of him. R2 D2 is more clever.
Why did they even bring him then? If he's liable to fuck the plan up whether he knows it or not it's probably a good idea to take him out of the equation completely.
Personally, I think the dynamic between Luke and Vader, Vader’s redemption and the emperor was what made the movie. It makes up for the dumb and silly parts. I rank it number three after Empire and New Hope.
"...there's actually a lot of paintings. But it's still really cool!" Matte paintings are one of my favorite "lost arts" from movie-making prior to the dominance of CG. I especially like the ones in the 1989 Batman.
@@mattcorey8557 I think Lynch just happened to have a migraine that day and it just made Lucas' more wacky suggestions for ROTJ sound more off-putting to Lynch in the moment.
I agree with most of your points but the scene of Luke and Vader meeting again and talking before meeting the emperor is one of my favorites in the original trilogy
Honestly I like how Palpatine let's the rebels on to Endor, I think he was trying to give the rebellion a false sense of hope and then crush it. He actually does this a lot in the novels and comics, he's all about the mental mind games with him. So I personally like this part. Also Vader's obvious confusion is FREAKING hilarious. All Vader wants to do is kill, he wants to brutally take out everyone opposing him while Palpatine has patience and wants to get rid of the rebellion with one swipe. So yeah I actually like this part
In the first two movies the empire is so much more powerful than the rebellion that the rebels have to hide from it. In the third movie the rebellion is strong enough to take on the empire. It would be nice if this was somehow explained. Maybe more people have joined them, or they've had time to build more and better ships.
Bro, the ground and space force we see in the movie is basically the entire Rebellion. We see their fleet floating in space in ESB and can deduce they have a sizeable ground force based on the battle of Hoth. They gambled everything on destroying the Death Star II which adds a bit of excitement to the plot.
@@lepopcornnaisseur546 Also worth noting that the majority of the imperial fleet was not in the system at the time. This was intentional to draw the Rebels in to Palpatine's trap, they would have been too suspicious if there was a sizeable imperial presence in the system. This is literally mentioned in the film. So yeah, the Empire was WAY more powerful than the Rebels, Palpatine was just a fool who got overconfident and too trusting of vague visions - the Rebels were never supposed to be able to get the shield generator down and would have easily lost if that were the case.
*Starts describing how to improve the plot of a forty year old movie* Me: "No! Do NOT give George Lucas any more ideas! How many more edits must we endure?"
@@leaffinite2001 yeah the novelizations were written from the unedited scripts. There is a lot of cool stuff in them. Stuff they should've left in. Would have made the movies make more sense
@@leaffinite2001 Idk, I got that as a kid. I didn’t need the backstory of the bounty hunter whos armor she stole. Jabba said “This bounty hunters my kind of scum.” She did it to get in with them, so that’s he could stay the night and steal back Han.
@@choccake3057 read expended canon. his armor was salvaged by jawas and used by someone else. and Temuera Morrison is too old for Boba Fett in the TM Era.
Sergeant Cyro expended is the wrong word, Expanded Canon is also wrong, you’re talking about... well nothing, I guess you were just making stuff up. In Legends he escaped the Sarlaac pit through use of his arsenal and Mandalorian armor and while he was captured by Jawas afterward, they mistook him for an unintelligent being and only restrained him, and the bounty hunter escaped later, in canon, he is still being digested while alive or he gave in to the pain of the Sarlaac’s neurotoxins and died, and due to that specific Sarlaac’s continued wellbeing in canon, it would be impossible for a salvage anyway. Don’t talk out of your ass next time. Edit: neither Temuera Morrison or Boba Fett is too old for themselves in the New Republic Era. That’s... why Morrison was casted.
@@griffith4723 Morrison is too old for Boba, yes! Boba Fett is 36 Years old in Episode 6, means in The Mandalorian he is about 40 years old. Temuera Morrison is 60 years old! and would you please watch your language when talking to strangers next time?? christ, does ANYONE on social media or online still have manners???
"The Empire isn't making any big moves against the Rebellion". ... Did you miss the part where they were building a second Death Star? As a trap for the entire Rebel Fleet?
I’ve always felt that about Han and Leiah that they feel different in this movie, I always assumed it was because Carrie was battling through bipolar depression while Harrison Ford didn’t want to be there because he only wanted to do two movies
I kinda felt that Leia had a lot of time to really think about how much Han had met to her. When she’s finally able embrace him again she let her self be vulnerable. Considering she must’ve spent the last few years thinking Han may be gone forever it would explain her character change. Han Solo just wasn’t given much to do in the film. His one thing that he does is blow up a control station. In the first two films he was such a vital character and although Luke was the main hero, he couldn’t have done it without Han.
@@MrJoelMiller because that's his opinion? I think aside from parts of spiderman 2 mostly only the scenes with doc ock his movies are generally garbage and Toby Maguire just isn't Peter Parker to me or at least doesn't feel like him. Tom Holland feels more like Peter Parker in appearance looking much younger than Toby ever did. I still don't think Tom's movies are that much better than Toby's but if I had to pick I'd rather watch Tom's spiderman movies.
501 212 I think it was a directing issue, because that bland/wooden acting is all over the prequels, and Luke suffers from that in ROTJ too (I’m sorry, but Luke was SO boring in this film. Wise =/= bland, Obi-Wan was wise but still had personality
i think the main problem of this is that is a safe movie, with Empire they actually tried do something different and more ambitious, because there was no way the sequel to the Star wars was gonna flop so there was no risk, its the type of sequel that doesn't make the first movie again, its more mature, less predictable, amazing direction, there is no big battle at the end and stuff like that, and Jedi isn't any of that, its a step back, its even less mature than New hope, its kinda disappointing watching it with Empire lenses, George Lucas didn't learn ansolutely nothing with Empire, he just made the sequel to the first movie he made, because yea, this is a George Lucas movie in a nutshell.
Vader: A small rebel force has penetrated the shield and landed on Endor. Palpatine: Yes, I know. Marcus: ????? How was that not a dead giveaway that the Empire was setting a trap for the Alliance?! In fact, that’s the entire explanation for why they stopped striking after Empire. They were setting a trap to draw out the rebels after they got away, so they could finally beat them. Too bad Palpatine underestimated his enemy’s strength.
@@fildariusv7045 it was inevitable that Ewoks got into battle , it was either against everyone or the stormtroopers. I think our heroes befriending them was a good point and plot armour arguments is shit , it isn't something impossible or something.
@@turkepic3637 ok but in reality the rebels including the ewoks should have got spanked in that battle they only won cuz they were the new toy marketing item
@@turkepic3637 I'm sorry but there's not way a primitive teddy bear species of Ewoks should have been able to go toe to toe with even just a platoon of an advanced military (such as Storntroopers) without literally odds of 20 to 1, and with catastrophic casualties. I think if way more than just 1 teddy bear had died it might have been slightly more believable, and if we spent less time following them
He's far from the first person to say that ROTJ is the weakest of the OT, although most fans wouldn't go nearly as far as saying "it sucks" outright. Regardless, the weakest of the OT is still better than 95% of everything else, imo.
Austin Trousdale I’ve been trying to talk to star wars fans see what they actually think of the original trilogy and how it has faults no one every really talks about.
14:16 You just proved you weren't lying about being a real fan of Star Wars. Using the Emperor's first name, which is never said in any of the movies, to my knowledge. Kudos
@@supercamdog1234 Are you serious? It was just revealed like 2 years ago in a book. He had no last name before. It was definitely not mentioned in any movies.
I always thought Luke's plan did fail: he really did give up the droids -- maybe he planned on rescuing them after bargaining with Jabba. So then he sent Leia in, and she got captured. So then he went in to fix stuff. I didn't get that he had planned on the skiff fight scene, only that he and his pals knew generally what they'd need to do. I never thought his plan was what we saw. Instead, we saw a bunch of plans failing. First plan was to bargain with Jabba.
That was my understanding as well. The plan was to bargain with Jabba. If that failed, send Leia and Chewie to infiltrate and try to sneak Han out. If THAT failed, Luke would go in himself. But he knew if that didn’t work, he needed R2 and Lando to be there (which is why Lando was undercover as one of Jabba’s guards) to help fight them out.
In hindsight, the plan could've been streamlined as such: Step 1: Have Lando infiltrate Jabba's guards to confirm Han is at the palace. Step 2: Have Leia, disguised as a bounty hunter, "capture" Chewbacca and C-3PO. The latter would serve as a translator for Leia. Step 3: After Jabba's party, Leia would thaw Han from the carbonite, Lando get Chewie from his cell and they all leave. Step 4: On the off chance step 3 fails, which it does, Luke comes himself with R2 and demands Jabba surrenders. When he refuses then you get the fight at Jabba's Palace with Luke distracting everyone by fighting the Rancor. R2 breaks Leia's chains, she kills Jabba and everyone bails since she also activates the Thermal Detonator to blow up the palace. Side notes: This would, for better or worse, cut the fight over the Sarlacc Pit and allow Boba to join the fight on Endor on the Empire's side, giving Han and the others more to do.
You neglect the fact that he sent in the droids with his lightsaber stowed away in R2. That means he would have lost his lightsaber if Jaba had accepted them as offerings and would have had to retrieve it or give it up.
I think his plan was to send in as many infiltrators as possible, and while he was negotiating (I.e. distracting) jabba, Leia would sneak Han out, and luke and co would follow them, violently if need be. Leia unfreezing han at night and the battle of the skiff then being improvisations to recover from the plan not working out.
I love ROTJ for Wedge’s part the most. He’s finally shown in film leading the entire squadron and helps blow up the second Death Star without a sweat like a badass.
Have you seen Genndy Tartrokoski's (I spelled that so poorly) Clone Wars microseries from 2003? It's one of my favorite Star Wars things ever and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
NotoriousBusinessMan True, but he already made a great video on that. I love both, but I never hear *anyone* talk about the 2003 series anymore, and I think it deserves more recognition.
I always thought the Han rescue was just like repeated attempts after each previous one fails. And the nod is just like, "Well, uh I guess we are left with the nuclear option, fucking shit up Jedi style." The only thing he'd have to plan is having the lightsaber hidden, which isn't nuts. If years of D&D have taught me anything, people make wacky plans that get progressively wackier as they screw up.
Boba Fett had like 3 lines in the previous movie. Why did everyone love him so much to be mad at his death? Oh right! They read all of these stories an comics and watched shows with him in it that weren't even made yet and the time of this movie.
I hate when condescending assholes try to speak for everyone. I didn't really care that Boba died either, but, I'm not an absolute fucking cunt to people that have their gripes.
I appreciate this video, btw! It feels like many people are afraid to even critizise the original trilogy, almost viewing it like it's holy and that it's got no flaws and whoever says anything differently is shunned and disliked. Nothing has no flaws! It's good to see people express their opinions, challenging the pre-existing Star Wars norms. Though, judging by the like/dislike ratio at the time of making this comment, it's evident that not everyone feels this way.
To me, the Empire Strikes Back, after watching Return of the Jedi, was just awkward seeing Luke and Leia kiss, not knowing they were actually brothers and sisters. So yeah, there's that.
Albert The Peacock a lot of people have been hating on Return of the Jedi recently, people just change their minds over time and it happens very often, this movie is my favorite Star Wars movie and it might be my favorite movie ever so it kinda sucks to see people saying it’s worse than revenge of the sith
Return of the jedi is by far my favourite movie. Probably because of the difference between empire and rotj, Luke was so young a naive and in this one he's quite the force to be reckoned with. Him entering Jabbas palace the way he did was a clear sign of his growth between the films. Your opinion however cosmonaut, is valid.
Pretty sure anyone can draw the conclusion that Leia wasn’t asking Jabba for money, she was only saying that so she’d look and sound like a bounty hunter
@@3Rayfire I don't think you're seeing it from a proper point of view. Think of the huge weight of the head of the walker falling from it's height. That's what would damage it. Not the logs.
7:25 That’s because he was too focused on killing Luke and didn’t sense Vader turning on him. That’s also the reason why Mace Windu didn’t sense Anakin’s betrayal
Tbh the force is rlly poorly explained in the films. Many battles can be completely ended with them just force choking or graabing each other but they don't, and an explanation is never given in the films so alot.of.ppl start nitpicking the fights and things like how come palpatine never sensed Vader's betrayal
That is a shit excuse tbh... One of the most Powerful beings in the universe who can also apparently see into the future was "Distracted" yeah ok bud... 😐
@@ZombieOwlYT i mean.. hes about to kill the last jedi that could save the galaxy, if i were pure evil and was focused on killing my last enemy id prob be in deep not thinking of the other surroundings
@@dar6gh but again he can see the future so how come he wasn't ready for it. Also these force users can sense others without them even being in the same room, idc how much in the moment he is in killing Luke there is no way this mf doesn't atleast feel a tiny shiver in his spine when Vader is even debating on whether he should kill him or not.
I love how he can point out flaws in this favorite of many Star Wars fans. The whole opening sequence with jabba and how it doesn’t work. And yet The Last Jedi is better than this in his opinion? Hahaha NO just NO. None of these problems in ROTJ ruined the trilogy as a whole. TLJ killed a trilogy on the second film. I can get behind some of his critical analysis but to claim this isn’t Star Wars at the end for ROTJ he’s ignoring a lot of glaring flaws in TLJ. Very inconsistent criticisms. I’m starting to notice this a lot about this guy. Still enjoy his videos but very inconsistent.
@@namesaretuff Delivering C3PO to Jabba with a restraining bolt is as good as *broadcasting* that the droid is likely hiding something he doesn't want to get out. Jabba would have it removed immedeately and goldenrod would spill the beans. That's not a chance Luke would've been willing to take, I know *I* wouldn't.
Yoda dying might be the only true moment where I actually felt true emotion in a Star Wars movie. I loved every moment with luke, vader, and the emperor, imo the best star wars scenes. And also how when Luke gets his lightsaber and just says fuck jedi technique and swings it a baseball bat and destroys everybody. For me, I lean towards the good usually outweighs the negatives if it's equal. I definitely liked this movie. It's the only one to be fun, while having a serious tone and balance it perfectly.
UltimateUchiha2K that was no where near emotional. Besides yoga and mace, we didn't really get to know any Jedi who were killed. It's basically just a bunch of faces being killed off, not as investing.
10,000 Subscribers without Videos just because you don't know a character, doesn't mean that there is no emotion behind their death. Besides, order 66 was not just the fall of the Jedi, it was the fall of Anakin. You see him attack the temple--his home. He killed children. The Jedi, who symbolize hope, peace, order, abd Justice, died. The light in the dark galaxy was snuffed out. On top of John Williams brilliant score, it was probably the most emotional moment in star wars history. One last thing. Yoda disappeared. The last time we saw that, the guy who disappeared came back as a ghost. Everyone knew that Yoda would become one too. The Jedi in order 66 didn't. That was the sad truth of moment. Order 66 was far more emotional than Yoda's "death"
The funny thing is, I love this one. I saw it when I was like 10 and loved every bit of it. The scenes in Jabbas Palace, the cute teddys fighting for their planet/moon and the epic fight at the end where luke nearly breaks. Seeing Lando flying the falcon was also kinda cool but I have to agree that building another Death Star and having more or less the same outcome than the first movie is kinda lazy.
It’s a great last act bar the endor battle which is a bit silly. And that last act is what we all remember and it makes us forgive the first two acts which are honestly fairly boring on repeated viewings
I'll posit that the reason you love it is because you were 10 when you saw it. I undeservedly like a number of mediocre movies because I saw them at an impressionable time.
I feel the opening of Return of the Jedi was successful, but I would make some changes to the rest of the film. I would change the plot from there to have Han and Leia follow a lead from Jabba’s Palace to Coruscant (kind of a WW2 French spy thriller vibe), and Han, Chewbacca, and Leia discover a method to use Spice routes to smuggle rebel troops past the Imperial fleet to storm the Imperial Palace. Blade Runner was released in 1982 so the effects were possible for Coruscant. Luke is now a symbol of hope for the galaxy, meaning he will bring the return of the jedi order and peace to the galaxy. The rebel troops inspire the Coruscantians to rise up (maybe there are Wookies that were inspired by Chewbacca, which helps turn the tide). Lando and a new character (maybe someone that infiltrated Jabba’s Palace with him so they have a rapport) would follow a similar path to the actual movie leading the space attack against the Imperial fleet, but the attack on the fleet is a smoke screen to distract the actual goal of sneaking in the ground troops to the surface; Lando could have subplot about convincing the rebel fleet on a suicide mission that functions as a distraction. Luke would similarly follow a similar path to the actual movie, but I would have had Luke be training Leia in the Force between movies (it’s clear in Empire Strikes Back that she can use The Force so why not have that training occur off screen or in an early scene…maybe Leia uses the Force during the Jabba mission). I would also not make Leia and Luke related; the scene where Luke snaps when Vader says “If you will not turn, maybe she will…” still works, especially if Leia is on the planet at the time. Luke would still confront the Emperor, but it would occur at the Imperial Palace. There would be additional tension because Luke falling to the Emperor’s side would snuff out the new hope that he has provided to the people of the galaxy. The rebels are successful with taking the palace and there is a celebration to the end of the civil war. Maybe Han dies so Harrison Ford can have his dream fulfilled. The end.
The Emperor “foreseeing” things (or his failure to do so) is one of the themes of the film. Yoda in ESB preaches the folly of looking away to the future. (One of the ironic inversions in the prequels, where Yoda and the Jedi are all about prophecy and future-seeing, except for Quite-Gon- who tells Obi-Wan to cut that out.) 6-film moral: Keep your mind on what you’re doing right NOW, or you’re going to have a bad time.
Multiverse I think that Yoda’s opinion has changed because of those times. He’s developed and learned from his experience. There was a comic not too long ago about how Yoda blamed himself for being to caught in the future to focus on the present and the evil approaching. Which causes him to exile himself like he does. It’s really a sad moment. But overall It’s a nice little arch that Yoda goes through.
"Skywalker, still looking to the horizon. You are here, NOW, the need in front of your nose!" All of Star Wars truly is about the decisions we make now, whether redeeming ourselves for our mistakes or trying to better ourselves and those around us. Great lessons.
That's definitely possible and Imma use that from now on lmao, but tbh I feel like it's also possible that Palpatine just had some inconsistencies and happened to align with that theme lol
It was originally going to be Wookies, but George thought that by ROTJ, he had already established them as a technologically advanced species and one of the themes he wanted to explore was a primitive species fighting the evil Empire, and so the Ewoks were born.
The dialogue was alright, the Endor could've been much better, but it's fine just the way it is. Just. Like. The Prequels. The revealing of Luke and Leia being siblings, I'll admit, *was* pretty awkward, but Darth Vader vs Luke was just the best Saber fight. Ranked 2 next to Darth Vader vs Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith for me! But I understand your opinion.
Well, oficially he was really dead, but after Lucasfilm fucked up star wars with episode 8 and 9, they desperately made him alive coz fans like him to at least save the ashes of the past SW legacy.
in legends it's implied heavily that Palpatine didn't care about that "body" as he had figured out the ability to transfer his conscious into another body or soul and power into another body as the one he was in was dying which could make him immortal before luke killed him with the help of leia i believe
General Kong Hahahahah! Are you fucking kidding me. Revenge is not a masterpiece it has many flaws. It’s so overrated. How come Star Wars fans are bunch of dumbasses now! Why do you ppl like Revenge so fucking much it’s really not that good at all.
I personally always felt that the whole first act was intended to build tension for the execution scene, and Luke backflipping and grabbing the green lightsaber to heroic music is the most perfect payoff I’ve ever seen on film, at least to me. AND I love that the final confrontation with the Emperor and Darth Vader is so psicological... In short, if you take Endor out and replace with... basically anything... this movie would be just as good as the other two to me. Slower paced, sure, but great all the same.
I have to: Yes, Return of the Jedi might be the weakest of the three. But many of your points aren't thought through. Let me unpack this for you: Yes, Han Solo's role seemed pretty unnecassary, but that was because his role was originally cut and just later added. Apart from that I'd like to think that Luke, Leia, Lando and all the others changed so much in the year between V and VI, Han was just a bit thrown off by their sudden competence. Remember, they all grew in the meantime, he was frozen in carbonite. *Jabba's Palace:* It is actually a great scene, it ends Han's arc with him owing money to Jabba. And Luke's plan actually makes sense. He didn't tell C-3PO any details for the obvious reason that 3PO is a naive coward who would have spilled the beans by accident. That is made clear because R2, the more clever one of the two, was involved in the plan. He's got Luke's lightsaber. But no, Luke didn't plan out exactly everything. He didn't plan to fight the Rancor and then go to the Sarlacc pit. He gave R2 his lightsaber to make sure there is a plan B. When he nodds to Lando, that obviously is the plan B. Look at how serious and pumped Leia looks when Luke is on the plank. She knows shit is about to get real. *The Ewoks:* Yes, the original idea to have Wookies instead of Ewoks would have been cooler. But agaim, you underestimate Luke's character. He joined the group and travels to Endor. He senses Vader on the ship and gets this feeling that something is happening. He doesn't quite know what, he wonders wether he should have come or not. The speeder chase happens and they all end up at the Ewok village. And then, when they all sit around the fire and 3PO tells them, they have become part of the tribe and the Ewok's will help them there is one shot of Luke standing at the door and having this look that says "Ohhh, so that was the reason why I came here. Now I can leave and confront my father" and that is exactly what he does. *Vader meets Luke:* You might find it boring and off hoe they interact with each other after the confrontation on Bespin. But it is sooo subtle. The look they give each other for the first time. One can just imagine what is going on in their minds at that moment. They way Luke speaks is very reserved and serious. He pushes his own confidence and when Vader activates his lightsaber behind his back it is so unsettling. Both of them must have gone through that conversation hundrets of times. This moment means much more that you think *The space battle:* No idea how you can dislike that, it's awesome *The second Death Star:* Sure, one could argue that it is just a rehash to have a second Death Star. But think about it, it just makes sense. The impirial power depends on it. The impirial senate was given up in favour of a weapon of fear to "Keep the local systems in line". They needed that Death Star as an instrument to keep the galaxy under their control. It's a tool a fear. *The duel:* Again, you argue nothing much happens, the fight is short and not really action packed. But this is exactly the poinz, it's not about the duel itself, it's about what it means. In the end it is all about Luke winning and deciding to spare his father. The real conflict - Luke even says that - is the conflict within. He doesn't give into his hate, he spares his fathers life and decides to die instead of joining the Emperor. Return of the Jedi might not be the best of the trilogy but it got it where it counts, kid. You underastimate it very much.
@devil-haha said it right my friend...I cannot dispute some of the problems I. The movie that we're touched upon, however I'm fine with looking past them since I appreciate the very elements of the plot you just described here...and I'm a hardcore ESB fan lol
Your whole counter argument is just re-narrating the movie. The Evoks scenes last much to long and are in fact BORING. Han character being cut and being readded later is not an excuse. The performance and dialogs were bad. Star Wars is a movie that tries to impress the viewers and the last fight with Vader was dull and lame as fuck. The reunion between Vader and Luke was rushed. This whole movie was an embarrassment to the franchise. Sometimes you gotta look past the nostalgia...
XXX1 XXX2 Man some people don't get star wars and critique it like they understand all the themes and meanings. First off your personal interest in the ewoks and their scenes is irrelevant, If you find them boring great, Not everyone does, And they do infact, Add a lot to the plot ( I will concede that it did feel like they pushed them a bit to far though and they became a slight toy commercial, But they did still add to the plot) Hans character being readded and ending his story are fine, I don't even get why it would be a problem that he's not a huge part of the movie, He wasn't meant to be and thats clear, It's lukes story now. The performances and dialog is bad, Ok this is a subjective point again, Your opinion on the acting is irrelevant, Most people found it to be fine. I'll ask what dialog or moments in the performances you found bad because i'm curious though And again the Luke and Vader fight is a bit subjective, But saying "it's lame" because their isn't much action? I'm sorry but you've completely missed the point, Star wars is not about light sabers, It's about the characters conflict and the lightsaber fights are ways of showing that conflict in a visual way. To say Return of the jedi is an embarrassment to star wars when we have movies like Rouge One and the entire prequel trilogy is absurd to me, I can't even understand that part of what your saying
I think the beginning was multiple failed rescue attempts, first a bargain that fails, then Leia sneaking in and failing, then Luke making a last ditch effort to rescue everyone and failing, then finally then make the plan to break out
I also think it was part of the plan that the plans sucks, so they dont pose a big threat to Jabba. His palace was full of bounty hunters and guards, if they went full murder on the heroes,, some of em probably would have died.
I was 11 when it came out (like many others, I see!). I remember loving the experience, feeling like it was going by too quickly, wanting to savor every moment. But as we waited outside for my parents to pick us up and the crowd surrounding me was euphoric and talking about how cool it was, I felt for the first time in my life a distinct gap between what I was feeling and what they were expressing. It was disappointment, but it would take a long time for me to acknowledge it. Meanwhile, I bought the toys, books, tapes, and posters. There was enough to love about Return of the Jedi to forget that initial feeling and just keep on being a Star Wars fan. Then it came. I was in college when the February 1997 issue of Sci-Fi Universe magazine hit the stands. In big bold letters, the cover read, "FIFTY REASONS WHY WE HATE RETURN OF THE JEDI (and love Star Wars...). Reading it was cathartic. It was clever, genuine, and funny writing, obviously posited by people who really loved the franchise. My buddy and I would take turns reading it aloud to each other like a performance, it was so good. There was a side bar about all the ways Jedi was amazing, too. You hit a lot of the points covered in the essay, and I appreciated the deeper look and personal perspectives brought with this video. Clear, funny, informative, and - again - with an obvious love of Star Wars. Fun Asides: When the Special Edition came out, it was a thrill to see the ANH in the theater again. I relished watching the younger audience that was talking and joking through Empire get completely sucked into it and shut the F up. By the time Han got frozen, the entire theater was silent and learning into the screen, dumbfounded by how good it was. The same full audience laughed a lot through Return of the Jedi. The biggest unintentional laugh came when Vader said, "My son is with them. I have FELT him." I hadn't realized how suggestive that line was, but boy did the audience roar form it.
I remember when I finally had the Special Edition, I went to watch "Jedi" and the picture shrank down to a thin line on the screen. Horrors. Then at some point I discovered the Star Wars radio dramas, which were pretty good.
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Another Han line I liked was:
Han: So, how are we doing?
Luke: Like usual.
Han: That bad, huh?
Any line blind han says had me geeking.
"I think my eyesight is coming back; instead of a big dark blur I see a big light blur"
Also like "Hey... It's me"
I love how people love that cheese line but want to boycott the next one because Finn says “they fly now”. 🤔🤫😒
Brian Jungen Because they fly now sucks, and the other one doesn’t lol
"nobody hates star wars more than star wars fans"
TriggerScare true
Trueeee
Along w the actors
Never heard a more true statement in my life.
"insert overused quote here"
Luke's black outfit that he wears in this movie is low-key the best fit in all of Star Wars. It's pretty subtle, but next time you watch the movie, pay attention to it and just admire how stylish he is.
I'd argue that his design came close 2nd. Vader's suit tho? That can't be top
@@immentallyhandicapped2903 Nah Anakins from ROTS is best
@@user-no7qg4ye3k Anakin from the Prequels is not the best of anything.
Dripwalker
@@jimjam7928 prequels are the best
When Luke asks Vader to join him after being captured and Vader says: “It’s too late for me son” I nearly broke down in tears
Dude thats real
You’re telling me you legitimately almost broke down into tears after that, nerd😂😂😂😂
@@gavinholloran1381 bro you sound like you'd cry when you run out of protein shake let people enjoy movies jock
@@gavinholloran1381are you shaming people for having emotions?
yea that was great dialogue.
Only part where I semi-disagree with the video tho he does say it was interesting just doesnt agree with the way it was presented which i respect because the officer coming in like "blah blah blah" does immediately start the energy off very low
I'm not making excuses but Han and Leia are probably played so weird because of the fact that Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher were constantly partying and showing up drunk.
And screwing each other's brains out
Omaoc and she was kind of a cokehead. I mean, she was ready for the gold bikini.
they did that in all of them tbf tho
AmazingJoe96 not the first one but yea
Kind of? ol' girl had a pinky nail specifically to snort coke
Harrison Ford was done with Star Wars after the Holiday Special.
Daniel Earl He pretty much was. From what I recall the actors were all tired by the time Jedi came around they just wanted this shit to be over with lol. (At least Harrison did).
Geralt of Trivia yup
@@Alejandro-er7rp but, in Empire, he did a good job!
He was done after the return of the Jedi and he even said he wanted Han to die in this movie.
Cocain is a hell of a drug
"Luke gets himself captured because even he's sick of the Ewoks."
lol
Luke: *cosmonaut prediction* yeah he thinks this is bad screw you guyd
I thought you were plagiarizing until i saw the lol. lol really makes this line witty.
How did you get 2.4K likes by Just copying what he said and adding 'lol'
@@absarmstrong Why are you blaming me for it? Do you think I hit Like 2.4k times?
What an ignorant reply.
@@absarmstrong They're liking the quote. Not me, idiot.
The end of return of the Jedi with darth vader and luke is probably my favor scene in all of star wars. Def one of my favorites for movies in general
That actor sucked! Looks like the father of BEWITCHED 🙄
Honestly if they had used Wookies instead of Ewoks would made the movie a lot better. For christs sakes even without weapons those Wookies would be ripping storm troopers arms off.
i think it was to do with the fur for wookies being to expensive
I was so blind when i was 6 i thought the ewoks were the wookies. Then again my dad kept switching channels showing revenge of the sith and return of the jedi
@@ConsumerOfCringe no, George Lucas has admitted that it was for marketing purposes. It's easier to sell cute furry bears to children.
Plus, you know that canonically, Kashyyk (and therefore the Wookies) was under the Empire's control, because it was a key world. Plus, the Empire enslaved the Wookies, so...
@@straighttothecore8131 Well but i think that was decided Well after the production of this Movie so they couldve Just taken wookies and i also Heard that wookies were Planned but to expensive.
“As far as the new canon is concerned, he’s dead.”
*laughs in mandalorian*
👏
"I was just about to say that"
Nah Mandalorian boba is a second clone called Boba Fat
Got em
@@biggiecheese5953 hahahaha thats awesome
Only a Sith deals in absolutes Marcus. I will do what I must.
Jessica ? You will try...
*weird scream/moan while flipping*
*starts throwing random shiz around and even though I am a master Jedi i miss almost every shot and the one shot i hit wasn't because of my accuracy* (Yoda's fight with Palpatine is the reference, when they were in the conference room.)
It's funny because the phrase 'Only a Sith deals in absolutes' is in fact an absolute.
Jessica ? You underestimate my power.
The one revelation that the Sci-Fi Universe article that hit me hardest came in the first item: "How intensely were the Ewoks marketed? Consider this: 'Ewok' is a household word, despite the fact that it’s never once spoken in the film."
wow thats deep
I love the idea that everyone on the Empire's side gave up on the war except for Vader. I find that hilarious.
They just wont invite him to the Christmas party either bc he keeps killing the mood
@@DanniDerpy by being dead mainly
@@DanniDerpy does he kill the mood or the guests
Yes
Over confidence...like the USA in Vietnam. Or more exactly, like the leaders back home in America and their attitudes to the primitave Vietanmese. Luke even calls out Shive on this.
Bad things:
1) Boba Fett goes out like a punk.
2) Bad green screens.
3) Ewoks & child-friendly tone.
Good things:
1) Best space battle of the OG trilogy.
2) Emotional conflict.
3) Lightsaber fights.
4) Amazingly satisfying ending.
@@marcshimpar7645 Facts
Boba Fett is just a damn bounty hunter. Before the extended universe masturbated over him, he was just a guy who rode a dinosaur, tracked and delivered Han, then died in a fight, that's it.
@@trailersic Riding a dinosaur and being Han's best enemy is what made him such a badass, dumbass.
@@AlejoConejo-vb8ln in the extended Canon, which is moot and has nothing to do with the events of the original trilogy. On those merits alone, Fett is just a guy with a cool outfit that gets merked as any other goon. Good riddance.
they used blue screens then not green screens
about han solo: you know when you put some food in the freezer and when you finally reheat it the flavor changes and is all soggy? .... Han.
Oh my god you're a genius
He's carbonite burnt
Also, well to be blunt, he and Lea hadn't had any alone time yet. Maybe he was worried the whole time if Little Solo was all the way out of the carbonite.
@@misha5670 they had plenty of alone time in ESB
@@87dramarama Not really, but that was pre-carbonite
The one thing I'll say in defense about the scene with Luke and Darth Vader on the bridge is that if they wanted to fight each other, they would have fought each other. I actually think that's one of the best moments in the movie. They gave the two characters a chance to actually breathe. I also think it was important for the Ark of Darth Vader that he didn't want the fight luke. You can feel that torment as he tries to suppress the good side creeping back in when faced with his son who is purposefully speaking calmly and gently to him, man to man. I think it's a good scene. It makes the fight scene later a bit more powerful because you know Vader doesn't want to do it.
Exactly! This isn't how you meet an ex. If that were the case, shouldn't there be more childish insults?
@joelstone3914 lol. No. On the fence.
@@richardthemagician8991yea that makes absolutely no sense, you aren’t on the fence on anything, you are defending a clear point. Take the typo with dignity
@@vincentchamberlain107 I refuse! LOL. A typo corrected.
Before watching this video Jedi was my favorite Star Wars film. After watching this Jedi is still my favorite Star Wars film, but you brought up some good points.
That's a great way to take criticism for something you like
I agree i still love the movie and its still my favorite of all the star wars movies or second or maybe third(honestly i can’t decide which of the three originals is my favorite) but he did come up with some great points
Good job
The end battle and jabas palace save this film. Besides that his points really are true though. It just comes down to how much do you like the new fast paced lightsaber scenes because it does have the best lightsaber scenes in the trilogy
High points and a great send off save this film so I’m fine with its flaws.
LOL you actually called him Sheev. I don’t think I’ve heard anybody refer to Palpatine by his first name so nonchalantly
I've made a point in the last few years to only call him Sheev, or Ole Palpy
@@hamshankscps1049 Lmao
Oh I thought it was a reference to some other baddy. Sheev?!
@@hamshankscps1049 what about the senate
@@WalnutAnimations I have been referring to him as The Senate, or Emperor Sheev "The Senate" Palpatine
I recognize this movie has flaws and pacing issues galore but you're a damn liar If you say it doesnt wrap up Luke and Vader's character arcs PERFECTLY and deserves to be highly respected for that much.
Well, yeah... It's widely known to be the only redeeming quality of Jedi. Luke, Vader and Palpatine carried the whole damn movie on their backs while the others were just fuckin around.
@@kevinfromsales9445 The whole Jabba sequence was good
Opening Jabba (Han's rescue) was great. The Endor stuff kinda drags, except the speeder bike chase. The ending is perfect.
ANH and Empire both had distinct beginnings, middles, ends. The Endor stuff seems to mix the middle and endings together. They should have had Coruscant be the end of the film as apparently originally intended. Look at Blade Runner, Cloud City in Empire, the Spacedock scenes in Star Trek 3, the space battle and death star run in Jedi. They could have done it and made it look reasonably good.
@@jaoh6659 I think they had already spent a record amount (at the time) on the budget. It's gotta be tons cheaper to just go out in the Redwood Forres than it would have been to build a convincing city set.
"why is there a sexy Rodian woman?"
That breakdown at the end has been making me laugh for years now
Honestly I come back to this video every now and again just for that rant lmao. "They're not f***** brass instruments so how are they making that noise?" lmfao
“WITH BREASTS!”
Ok
@@michaelangelo2192ok..
Rodian? You mean twilek?
“You can’t truly love something unless you hate it”
-Some Guy
God it’s like me and Rainbow Six: Siege. Love it. But fuck that game.
@@danniwantsfood same with cs
Nick Diaz
Yeah but let’s still forget the sequels exist
@@Luigiboy-yl7rb I’d rather forget the prequels
When Star Wars fans find someone who like all the movies:
"Uh... That doesn't compute. Uh, wait... Uh... You're under arrest!"
It's treason then
i certainly *enjoy* all the movies, but i acknowledge that the prequels and TLJ are hot garbage. they’re kinda funny though.
Geralt of Trivia what episode?
Geralt of Trivia ok, 1. just because someone makes a good thing doesn’t mean everything they make is good. 2. rian johnson only directed that episode. he didn’t write it.
Geralt of Trivia do you like the prequels?
Star Wars is litterally all I’ve been watching during this quarantine
I actually had the pleasure of showing my parents Star Wars from the prequels to this film. They themselves are disappointed seeing number VII and saying “what’s the point, everything is wrapped up, there is a nice story of redemption and the emperor is dead.” I just left it like that, no need to hit my head on a wall while watching the sequels because it will make no sense to them.
Also had you seen the 2D clone wars? I was surprised that Episode III references Anakin’s adventures in the outer rims. I did not expect that. Loved every prequel even episode I...
HOPELESS Ent. You could show them Rogue One and Solo
Eloi oh I had done so. We started from Ep1 and included even the cartoon stuff to Solo and Rogue One. Funny thing is that we watched Rogue One with A New Hope back to back so it actually felt really special doing so.
Same tbh
John Randall I haven’t seen the new ones yet but hearing the reception it’s positive. My only gripes is Ashoka being everywhere. I watched it when I was 8 but now 12 years later I always tried but simply can’t get with the show. It’s the most difficult show to get by...
People complaining about bobas death baffle me. He was never really established to be some amazing cool guy at this point. He was just another random bounty hunter that people latched on to cause they thought his armour was cool. Since then we've got more stuff from the EU and shit. At the time boba was a nothing character. George himself has said he was just another minion. His death was kinda comical, so? Star wars fans really like 2 movies and think they love the franchise. Everyone's entitled to their opinion but nitpicks like bobas death are frustrating.
Okay, he was the one who tracked Han to Bespin. He was clearly not just a random character who had cool armor, he had skills above the other bounty hunters. He was also the only one who slowed Luke down at all on his rampage in the same movie. Top it all off with Star Wars fans being really into every minor character, and it's not surprising people were upset about his comedic death.
After what they did to him in TBOBF, I'd be content with Boba's death in ROTJ
People like to say it's because of the armor but the bigger draw with boba fett is that he's the only henchman that threatens the main characters. He tracks the falcon down, captures han solo, and would've probably blasted luke in the hallway if he wasn't trying to lead him to vader (who up to that point personally killed no one that was actually fighting back). He's clearly more dangerous than the stormtroopers, and his death in jedi makes fans upset because any generic goon could have taken his place and it would've changed nothing.
A good example of how he should've worked is karl in die hard (spoilers if you haven't seen die hard, which you should). He acts differently than the rest of the goons, has a bigger gun, and nearly kills mcclane many times while the other goons get shot to bits. It takes a long brawl scene where he's thashing bruce willis for most of it to ALMOST kill him, and even then he outlives the rest of the bad guys and is killed by another character to resolve his character arc.
what 2 movies are you talking about? youre talking about a New hope and peoples obsession with the empire strikes back?
Yes he was just a bounty hunter but he was also the coolest one and the only one that most people remember or know the name of and he had a jetpack. I think that's the problem we were just starting to think wow this is a really cool character and then instead of utilizing him in the third movie they just killed him in a pretty unspectacular way.
The movie still holds a special place in my heart even if it’s flawed as hell
Yea shut up bitch we don't need your analysis
I loved this film, Marcus is a sack of crap filled with illogical persuasion of finding flaws when he doesn’t understand the point of the Boush or the fact that Empire establishes that force users can see the future. Considering Luke is strong with the force he was able to plan out the situation in Jabba’s Hutt. Marcus is a fanboy yet shits on the film’s setting. I think ROTJ is fine it’s a petty argument that broke my interest in Marcus’s opinions. Especially after him calling Prequel fans as idiots...
@Gareth Keenan yep
@@One.Zero.One101 He wasn't wrong, I'd be disappointed if Red Letter Media actually supported Return of the Teddy Bears.
JediHoss241 we don’t need yours.
Don’t forget the part where a highly advanced and tactical army of well trained soldiers with tools of death and destruction lost to midget bears with pointy wooden sticks and rocks
Yea the Empire, reeeeal menacing when they can be beat up easy by reject care-bears
fizz 2151
Storm troopers need a buff
I like the Ewoks.
@William Robb there's a quote somewhere from Lucas that the Ewoks were supposed to be Wookies but the budget didn't allow for it i personally call bullshit but definitely something to think about
@theninjamaster67 I mean I can see the budget along with many different problems factoring into it:
1. Budget - Making costumes that large and fitting them, then also the makeup artists involved for 100+ people every day (for multiple days) will cost a lot.
2. Extras - Finding 100+ people that are 7ft tall (Chewbacca's height approx.) is not that easy either.
I personally think wookiees would have been better, but personally I don't tend to mind a whole lot, considering there are meant to be thousands of them and they did capture the main cast at some point and they don't just serve as eye candy considering we see quite a few of them die.
@@kartrix1 well you wouldn't need to do make-up for em but yah the costumes would be hard also fairly sure Chewbacca's actor used stilts
18:18 that descent into madness is incredible
LeoYoshi54321 lmao it really was
He joined the dark side
Leia using the grenade was to show Jabba that, not only is her motivation for collecting a bounty, but to also solidify herself as a legitimate character of the underworld, by using a fierce negotiating tactic. Of COURSE if the grenade is set off, no one wins, but that's not the point. The point is to sacrifice a few teammates in order for everyone to escape together. It's impossible to rescue only one, so the plan was to fully infiltrate their criminal enterprise and rely on R2 being able to fire out Luke's lightsaber to him at the right time.
Of course, this requires a lot of things to line up perfectly for Luke (which I'm not a fan of), but that is the point of the entire setup. It makes sense, but you have to exit your current state as a "TH-cam critic" and think from different perspectives.
Also, not telling C3PO about the plan was a GOOD thing. C3PO is a blabbermouth. He can't keep secrets. He'd most likely give away the plan, which is why it was the safer risk to put him in that situation with R2 without knowing anything.
Lando had already infiltrated for weeks at that point lmao, at pretty much any point he could have unfrozen Han when nobody was there and walked out.
The entire plan is absolutely ass-backwards stupid and NONE of it makes any sense.
Keep in mind that Jabba and his people had to sit silently in the dark for, what, 7 hours? waiting for Leia to show up to free solo - of which they had no idea she was Leia or that her objective was to release Han or when she would do it.
There's your different perspective lol, it's an incredibly idiotic scene.
I appreciate that you're trying to apologize for it and find the good in it, but the bad/dumb/unbelievable FAR outweighs any good in it.
"I wasn't alive when Return of the Jedi came out"
Well, I was - 11 years old - and let me tell you, that theater experience was beyond any other. I love RotJ.
I was 6. First movie in theater I remember seeing. Yeah, has its flaws, but light years better than the prequels.
@Tronam This is correct. It is still so much better than the prequels. Only Force Awakens or Rogue One are similar or superior. Depends on taste.
i may not have as important of an input because im 15, but I personally love the prequels because that’s what i grew up on. Obviously the movies suck but the nostalgia for me keeps them
valid
@@thearchivist250 we have a new standard now, however. i agree with you that rotj is better than any prequel, but that doesn't mean the prequels are the worst star wars there is. yes tpm is garbage except for the final duel, and aotc is very boring apart from a few awesome stuff with clones, but revenge of the sith pulled clutch with that trilogy and gave it the ability to still be reguarded somewhat well. i would not, however, say that the force awakens is better than revenge of the sith.
I don't get why people try to argue what a real fan is. Sounds like a stupid and immature premise.
U r not a real fan so you wouldn't get it.
Da real fan of star war is stupid
'true Star Wars' fans are assholes.Dont listen to them
If you are a 'true fan' of Star Wars you have to hate:
most of the movies
plenty of the characters
the creator of Star Wars
logic level = 100 XD
By definition, if you dont admire or support something, you are not a fan. Easiest case ever.
Every time I hear "Palpatine" I automatically think "Papa Palpatine". Damn you, Robot Chicken.
platyputine
Playbutton
What the hell is an aluminum falcon?!
The force blablabla
...I love you, too.
C-3PO is very hesitant about lying to the teddy bears so Luke telling him the plan wouldn't be a great idea. Also sending R2 likely wouldn't be enough as he's an astromech droid, not much use for that kind of palace, they end up just using him as a table. 3PO ends up being very useful to Jabba with his translations
It's treason, then...
*Jumps doing magic space wizard flips* : "AAAAAARARARAAAARUUUAARUAUHRUAHURHRH!!!"
POWER
Not yet
Prequels>>
@@manz7860 everything >>>>prequels
What I like:
•Vader’s redemption
•Luke’s arch
•Nien Nunb
•The final battle in space
•The animatronics
•The sets
•The editing and effects
•The sound design
•Mark Hamill’s preformance
•Palpatine
•Luke unmasking Vader (this is my favorite scene in the franchise)
•Leia meeting Wicket for the first time. This was just hella adorable. I can’t explain why I love this scene.
•Yoda’s death
•The last scene
•Vader’s funeral
The shit I don’t like:
•Harrison Ford’s performance
•Boba Fett’s potential as a threatening force
•The opening scene on the Death Star
•The pacing
•The length of Endor: I’m okay with the Ewoks but it should NOT take up all of Act II. It kills the pacing.
• Death Star II
So pretty good flick. Great conclusion to the most influential movie trilogy EVER. 8/10
I agree with you on most things. Why don't you like the opening scene?
William Eckerle
It feels too slow. Granted it isn’t BAD, but the film is treating it as a bombastic opening with Vader’s theme blaring and his march, but nothing in reality is happening. Vader is just telling the moff that his little science project is tardy and papa Palps is coming
Yea I know the emperor is a big deal but even before Vader announced the arrival the theme was BLARING
@@joeiorio9654 But you have to admit that the death star looked pretty cool in that scene
Hello space, I'm dad.
I agree with your points
How could this movie be bad?? I'm in it
Admiral Ackbar it’s a trap!
Admiral Ackbar is MVP
The object appearing in view of our sight is equal to and identical to that of something being intent in of halting our progress and thwarting our plans (it’s a trap)
Jordan Gill but I'm still alive in the hearts of the fans.
I'm not
6:58 "Yes, I know."
That line sounds like it came from the prequels.
Luke probably didn't tell c3po about the plan because he would have fucked it up
l Beavis l Yeah, he does have a big mouth.
That's why C3PO has his memory wiped in Episode 3. Which must be like resetting his programming because he is still fluent in six million forms of communication. I think when they did it because they did not want info leaked to the Empire if they got a hold of him. R2 D2 is more clever.
Why did they even bring him then? If he's liable to fuck the plan up whether he knows it or not it's probably a good idea to take him out of the equation completely.
l Beavis l Thats why you tell the droid to not give you the odds.
l Beavis l facts 😅
Personally, I think the dynamic between Luke and Vader, Vader’s redemption and the emperor was what made the movie. It makes up for the dumb and silly parts. I rank it number three after Empire and New Hope.
I always fall asleep before ROTJ even gets to that throne-room...
I think Vaders redemption was forced as fuck.
That's honestly how all three trilogies hold themselves together, Anakin and Obi Wan, Luke and Vader, Rey and Kylo. The duality is strong.
I rank it number 11
@@cooldude2251 how ? He was watching his son die and the empire was laughing about it
I personally like Return of the Jedi. But I respect your opinions on this film.
Jonnycool 107 how DARE you be reasonable!
bob bill I know I just committed a crime against the fanboys. OH MAH GAWSH!!!111 lol
Ex De Who is she?
Did he ever actually openly state that he disliked the movie?
Treh-Vor No, but some things I just disagreed with. I respect his opinions though.
"...there's actually a lot of paintings. But it's still really cool!"
Matte paintings are one of my favorite "lost arts" from movie-making prior to the dominance of CG. I especially like the ones in the 1989 Batman.
18:28 *"Good thing Black don't crack" -The Cosmonaut Variety Hour*
I laughed there
Grey Studios Black don’t crack, crack is whack, so cut me some slack, I don’t deserve all this flack.
@@Kalina47 underrated comment
Papa Dragon if your taking hella kinds of drug drinking to Excess sitting around then yes your right ,but on the whole it don’t crack
@Papa Dragon cute.
*Imagine if David Lynch got to direct this as was planned.*
David Lynch said in an interview that when George Lucas met with him he started to get a migraine.
@@mattcorey8557 I think Lynch just happened to have a migraine that day and it just made Lucas' more wacky suggestions for ROTJ sound more off-putting to Lynch in the moment.
@@Wired4Life2 I feel like those two personalities are like oil and water.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Probably that too.
BlueFox94 i just wish Spielberg could’ve directed it
I agree with most of your points but the scene of Luke and Vader meeting again and talking before meeting the emperor is one of my favorites in the original trilogy
Animations well would you look at that. 66 likes just like Order 66 🤣
“You had a lot of faith in your unarmed, naked sister” is my new favorite quote.
Honestly I like how Palpatine let's the rebels on to Endor, I think he was trying to give the rebellion a false sense of hope and then crush it. He actually does this a lot in the novels and comics, he's all about the mental mind games with him. So I personally like this part. Also Vader's obvious confusion is FREAKING hilarious. All Vader wants to do is kill, he wants to brutally take out everyone opposing him while Palpatine has patience and wants to get rid of the rebellion with one swipe. So yeah I actually like this part
Pikachu Cat I’m not trying to kill your fun but since he led the rebels to Endor and they won they kinda makes him an idiot
Like Luke said palpatines over confidence is his weakness
@@tylercalabrese1101 I think it's the poor writing of this movie.
That also fits with the whole overconfidence being his weakness thing.
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen4737 not really? He set a trap for the rebels?
Still a satisfying and worthy finale to an epic trilogy.
Yeah...which you can't say at all for the two trilogies on either side of this one.
@@veteran0121 The prequels ended with a fucking bang. It’s the sequels that ended like shit.
@@thefilmwatcher1302 I mean ROTS is a good ending to the prequels because it's the only good one out of the trilogy
@@k_anth You mean prequels.
@@thefilmwatcher1302 yeah lol I didn't even realize I typed that
The last minute is one of the funniest scenes I have ever seen on this channel.
The Legendary Husquin I couldn’t agree more
The Legendary Husquin I put it on par with the for honor video
I was dying. Especially because THAT scene specifically is the one I just can't stand more than anything.
YESSSSSSS!!!!
In the first two movies the empire is so much more powerful than the rebellion that the rebels have to hide from it. In the third movie the rebellion is strong enough to take on the empire. It would be nice if this was somehow explained. Maybe more people have joined them, or they've had time to build more and better ships.
Bro, the ground and space force we see in the movie is basically the entire Rebellion. We see their fleet floating in space in ESB and can deduce they have a sizeable ground force based on the battle of Hoth. They gambled everything on destroying the Death Star II which adds a bit of excitement to the plot.
@@lepopcornnaisseur546 Also worth noting that the majority of the imperial fleet was not in the system at the time. This was intentional to draw the Rebels in to Palpatine's trap, they would have been too suspicious if there was a sizeable imperial presence in the system. This is literally mentioned in the film. So yeah, the Empire was WAY more powerful than the Rebels, Palpatine was just a fool who got overconfident and too trusting of vague visions - the Rebels were never supposed to be able to get the shield generator down and would have easily lost if that were the case.
*Starts describing how to improve the plot of a forty year old movie*
Me: "No! Do NOT give George Lucas any more ideas! How many more edits must we endure?"
George Lucas doesn't own Star Wars anymore.
Wait, forty?
MrDanChandler If I could get a good one this time...
Macklunky
Im from the future
MacClunky
Leia asking for more money is a part of her cover, the bounty hunter whose armor she stole was known to be greedy.
Cool. Wish that was in the fuckin movie tho, lol
@@leaffinite2001 yeah the novelizations were written from the unedited scripts. There is a lot of cool stuff in them. Stuff they should've left in. Would have made the movies make more sense
If you need outside materials to plug plot holes in your script you failed as a scriptwriter.
@@MkZuO12345 yea if you have a movie you can’t Understand without reading 50 books then you did fail
@@leaffinite2001 Idk, I got that as a kid. I didn’t need the backstory of the bounty hunter whos armor she stole. Jabba said “This bounty hunters my kind of scum.” She did it to get in with them, so that’s he could stay the night and steal back Han.
“Boba Fett is Dead”
Me: *laughs in Mandalorian season 2 casting*
he wont be there.
@@Cyro_2235 www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a32420071/mandalorian-boba-fett-casting-confirmed-season-2/
@@choccake3057 read expended canon. his armor was salvaged by jawas and used by someone else. and Temuera Morrison is too old for Boba Fett in the TM Era.
Sergeant Cyro expended is the wrong word, Expanded Canon is also wrong, you’re talking about... well nothing, I guess you were just making stuff up. In Legends he escaped the Sarlaac pit through use of his arsenal and Mandalorian armor and while he was captured by Jawas afterward, they mistook him for an unintelligent being and only restrained him, and the bounty hunter escaped later, in canon, he is still being digested while alive or he gave in to the pain of the Sarlaac’s neurotoxins and died, and due to that specific Sarlaac’s continued wellbeing in canon, it would be impossible for a salvage anyway. Don’t talk out of your ass next time.
Edit: neither Temuera Morrison or Boba Fett is too old for themselves in the New Republic Era. That’s... why Morrison was casted.
@@griffith4723 Morrison is too old for Boba, yes! Boba Fett is 36 Years old in Episode 6, means in The Mandalorian he is about 40 years old. Temuera Morrison is 60 years old!
and would you please watch your language when talking to strangers next time?? christ, does ANYONE on social media or online still have manners???
13:27 What did you expect, “vAdEr We MeeT aGaiN”?
"The Empire isn't making any big moves against the Rebellion".
... Did you miss the part where they were building a second Death Star? As a trap for the entire Rebel Fleet?
I mean they were probably building it during Empire Strikes Back too
@@knowledgeanddefense1054 nah,at least not in new canon, in disney canon they started a month before rotj and thats why it's weak
@@amvcentral9198 that’s not even remotely true. They started building it before the first Death Star blew up.
He means them having some screen time where they do things besides stand around
@@knowledgeanddefense1054 ewwwww, it’s the sequel shill who always defends those piles of a crap (I know your videos)
I’ve always felt that about Han and Leiah that they feel different in this movie, I always assumed it was because Carrie was battling through bipolar depression while Harrison Ford didn’t want to be there because he only wanted to do two movies
just bad script writing tbh lol new director didn’t seem to care abt them maybe
@@pddimez8485 everyone seemed so exhausted in the movie lol
i always thought it was because she was on coke
@@screenheads3812 TBF they probably would be in canon too lol
I kinda felt that Leia had a lot of time to really think about how much Han had met to her. When she’s finally able embrace him again she let her self be vulnerable. Considering she must’ve spent the last few years thinking Han may be gone forever it would explain her character change.
Han Solo just wasn’t given much to do in the film. His one thing that he does is blow up a control station. In the first two films he was such a vital character and although Luke was the main hero, he couldn’t have done it without Han.
Some of Han's conversations is like Oblivion NPC dialogue.
STOP! YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW! PAY THE COURT A FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE!
The REAL reason Cosmonaut hates Return of the Jedi is because the Gonk Droid at the beginning gets his feet burnt
What’s funny is that he goes on about how the Tobey and Andrew films are garbage, but yet says how Tom’s Spider-Man movies are amazing 💀
@@MrJoelMiller ok
@@MrJoelMillerThat’s because Tom’s movies are the best.
@@MrJoelMiller because that's his opinion? I think aside from parts of spiderman 2 mostly only the scenes with doc ock his movies are generally garbage and Toby Maguire just isn't Peter Parker to me or at least doesn't feel like him. Tom Holland feels more like Peter Parker in appearance looking much younger than Toby ever did. I still don't think Tom's movies are that much better than Toby's but if I had to pick I'd rather watch Tom's spiderman movies.
It should have been wookiees not ewoks.
Agreed.
gumdeo least there in Episode 3
Yes.
Ikr, that's one of the things the prequels got right
Apparently they wanted to do that but they ran out of money
*cracks knuckles* you're not a real star wars fan
Ricardo Conde My nigga
Fans could have their own opinions. A lot of the Star Wars fanbase hate the prequels. Does that make them not fans?
Sean Wheeler :yes.
Sean Wheeler No, that makes them true fans.
Sean Wheeler If someone likes the prequels they are likely liberal swines.
I think Carrie Fisher was High when she did that scene with Luke on Endor in the Ewok Village
Galifreyfallsnomore 2004 i think so too. sadly i heard that se had a drug problem at the time.
501 212 I think it was a directing issue, because that bland/wooden acting is all over the prequels, and Luke suffers from that in ROTJ too (I’m sorry, but Luke was SO boring in this film. Wise =/= bland, Obi-Wan was wise but still had personality
She was high for every scene in this movie, and half of Empire.
Every performance in this movie feels weird, like they were acting for TV.
Let's be honest, who wouldn't be high when working on Star Wars?
i think the main problem of this is that is a safe movie, with Empire they actually tried do something different and more ambitious, because there was no way the sequel to the Star wars was gonna flop so there was no risk, its the type of sequel that doesn't make the first movie again, its more mature, less predictable, amazing direction, there is no big battle at the end and stuff like that, and Jedi isn't any of that, its a step back, its even less mature than New hope, its kinda disappointing watching it with Empire lenses, George Lucas didn't learn ansolutely nothing with Empire, he just made the sequel to the first movie he made, because yea, this is a George Lucas movie in a nutshell.
Irving kershner and Steven Spielberg probably looked at the script and that’s the reason they passed on directing lol
This is UNAPOLOGETICALLY my favorite Star Wars movie.
I actually think that empire strikes back was better but its like 3 best star wars (the new hope is secound) movie for me too
top 2 for me it goes ROTS then ROTJ
Ok?
@@em.5941 it’s the exact same for me
Please explain to me why you love this movie so much.
I’d really wonder how he feels about the Indiana Jones Trilogy
Conner Wilcons
*Quadrilogy
Aladdin Sane no, there is no fourth one. That is a spin-off 😂😂😂
OOooOooh I'm a scary space thing ooOoooOooh
There's Russians scary ooOooooOooh
Keeganator I’m going to have to disagree with you there
@@aladinsane9785 we don't talk about that last one.
Vader: A small rebel force has penetrated the shield and landed on Endor.
Palpatine: Yes, I know.
Marcus: ?????
How was that not a dead giveaway that the Empire was setting a trap for the Alliance?! In fact, that’s the entire explanation for why they stopped striking after Empire. They were setting a trap to draw out the rebels after they got away, so they could finally beat them. Too bad Palpatine underestimated his enemy’s strength.
He understimated the plot armor, made up from a primitive race of tesdy bears and really lucky rebels, TOO LUCKY.
@@fildariusv7045 it was inevitable that Ewoks got into battle , it was either against everyone or the stormtroopers. I think our heroes befriending them was a good point and plot armour arguments is shit , it isn't something impossible or something.
@@turkepic3637 ok but in reality the rebels including the ewoks should have got spanked in that battle they only won cuz they were the new toy marketing item
They have been setting a trap for like 2 years!
@@turkepic3637 I'm sorry but there's not way a primitive teddy bear species of Ewoks should have been able to go toe to toe with even just a platoon of an advanced military (such as Storntroopers) without literally odds of 20 to 1, and with catastrophic casualties. I think if way more than just 1 teddy bear had died it might have been slightly more believable, and if we spent less time following them
This is the video that made me realize cosmonaut has BALLS
Ehh he's ok.
He's far from the first person to say that ROTJ is the weakest of the OT, although most fans wouldn't go nearly as far as saying "it sucks" outright. Regardless, the weakest of the OT is still better than 95% of everything else, imo.
Austin Trousdale I’ve been trying to talk to star wars fans see what they actually think of the original trilogy and how it has faults no one every really talks about.
Sounds like yet another whining millennial being a dick for clicks to me.
@@DeanStrickson ok boomer
14:16 You just proved you weren't lying about being a real fan of Star Wars. Using the Emperor's first name, which is never said in any of the movies, to my knowledge. Kudos
Frost Quake I think it’s mentioned in The Phantom Menace once or twice
@@supercamdog1234 Are you serious? It was just revealed like 2 years ago in a book. He had no last name before.
It was definitely not mentioned in any movies.
I’ve seen Sheev a billion different places, and I’m the farthest from being a big fan of the franchise now. Even when I was, still.
King Adas is my favorite Star Wars character :).
@@maan7715 Sauce on the 2 years claim - I'm willing to bet it was more than 2 years ago.
I always thought Luke's plan did fail: he really did give up the droids -- maybe he planned on rescuing them after bargaining with Jabba. So then he sent Leia in, and she got captured. So then he went in to fix stuff. I didn't get that he had planned on the skiff fight scene, only that he and his pals knew generally what they'd need to do. I never thought his plan was what we saw. Instead, we saw a bunch of plans failing. First plan was to bargain with Jabba.
That was my understanding as well. The plan was to bargain with Jabba. If that failed, send Leia and Chewie to infiltrate and try to sneak Han out. If THAT failed, Luke would go in himself. But he knew if that didn’t work, he needed R2 and Lando to be there (which is why Lando was undercover as one of Jabba’s guards) to help fight them out.
In hindsight, the plan could've been streamlined as such:
Step 1: Have Lando infiltrate Jabba's guards to confirm Han is at the palace.
Step 2: Have Leia, disguised as a bounty hunter, "capture" Chewbacca and C-3PO. The latter would serve as a translator for Leia.
Step 3: After Jabba's party, Leia would thaw Han from the carbonite, Lando get Chewie from his cell and they all leave.
Step 4: On the off chance step 3 fails, which it does, Luke comes himself with R2 and demands Jabba surrenders. When he refuses then you get the fight at Jabba's Palace with Luke distracting everyone by fighting the Rancor. R2 breaks Leia's chains, she kills Jabba and everyone bails since she also activates the Thermal Detonator to blow up the palace.
Side notes: This would, for better or worse, cut the fight over the Sarlacc Pit and allow Boba to join the fight on Endor on the Empire's side, giving Han and the others more to do.
You neglect the fact that he sent in the droids with his lightsaber stowed away in R2. That means he would have lost his lightsaber if Jaba had accepted them as offerings and would have had to retrieve it or give it up.
I think his plan was to send in as many infiltrators as possible, and while he was negotiating (I.e. distracting) jabba, Leia would sneak Han out, and luke and co would follow them, violently if need be. Leia unfreezing han at night and the battle of the skiff then being improvisations to recover from the plan not working out.
In the end the first act was just dumb but hey... Action!!!
I love ROTJ for Wedge’s part the most. He’s finally shown in film leading the entire squadron and helps blow up the second Death Star without a sweat like a badass.
I dont think Rotj sucks, but its definitely the weakest of the original trilogy.
"Rotj" 😂?
DA VIEWZ Return of the Jedi.
DA VIEWZ that’s how it’s spelled
I thought a new hope was
DA VIEWZ Fuck outta sw fanbase nigga.
Marcus' "THIS ISN"T STAR WARS!" rant at the end had me absolutely tearing up XD
I think I have heard that sentence like thousand times from everyone about every movie which isn't ANH or ESB
His name is Marcus?
I always thought of him as: 'The Cosmanaut Quickie.'
It had me laughing at hilariously triggered he sounds, lol!
Have you seen Genndy Tartrokoski's (I spelled that so poorly) Clone Wars microseries from 2003? It's one of my favorite Star Wars things ever and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
NotoriousBusinessMan
True, but he already made a great video on that. I love both, but I never hear *anyone* talk about the 2003 series anymore, and I think it deserves more recognition.
J Grandmaster - That series was my first introduction to Star Wars. Then I found old VHS tapes of the original trilogy when I visited my Uncle in '04.
I like that show very much and one day may make a video on it. - Marcus
J Grandmaster Why? he'll bash &hate on that too.
That's the series that completely revived my interest in Star Wars.
I always thought the Han rescue was just like repeated attempts after each previous one fails. And the nod is just like, "Well, uh I guess we are left with the nuclear option, fucking shit up Jedi style." The only thing he'd have to plan is having the lightsaber hidden, which isn't nuts. If years of D&D have taught me anything, people make wacky plans that get progressively wackier as they screw up.
Boba Fett had like 3 lines in the previous movie. Why did everyone love him so much to be mad at his death? Oh right! They read all of these stories an comics and watched shows with him in it that weren't even made yet and the time of this movie.
We all know Jango is the better Fett.
I hate when condescending assholes try to speak for everyone. I didn't really care that Boba died either, but, I'm not an absolute fucking cunt to people that have their gripes.
TyranusRex721 Jango is more skilled from what we’ve seen. And he beat Obi-Wan, that’s badass. But, Personally. I think Boba is more interesting.
Boba fett looked badass and had the coolest voice
Weird. I can't figure out why people liked a mysterious looking bad ass in cool armor with a rocket on his back.
I appreciate this video, btw! It feels like many people are afraid to even critizise the original trilogy, almost viewing it like it's holy and that it's got no flaws and whoever says anything differently is shunned and disliked. Nothing has no flaws! It's good to see people express their opinions, challenging the pre-existing Star Wars norms. Though, judging by the like/dislike ratio at the time of making this comment, it's evident that not everyone feels this way.
Nothing has no flaws? Have you ever seen Empire Strikes Back, Robocop, No Country for Old Men, Goodfellas, or Fargo?
To me, the Empire Strikes Back, after watching Return of the Jedi, was just awkward seeing Luke and Leia kiss, not knowing they were actually brothers and sisters. So yeah, there's that.
Well, they were not meant to be siblings. But we now know what happened in Ep.6. I mean, you can fast forward the two scenes like I do...
"Nothing has no flaws" "Return of the Jedi sucks: Why it sucks" two different views
that is practically the same view.
Everybody shits on RotJ and it's been my favorite Star Wars film since I was a kid.
O.G. Erik no one can take that away from you. It’s awesome you love it! When I was a kid I was obsessed with attack of the clones
Geralt of Trivia ROTS is great.
People shit on Episode 6? Fans and fanboys love this shit
Albert The Peacock a lot of people have been hating on Return of the Jedi recently, people just change their minds over time and it happens very often, this movie is my favorite Star Wars movie and it might be my favorite movie ever so it kinda sucks to see people saying it’s worse than revenge of the sith
@@impulse5674 Revenge of The Sith isn't necessarily bad, just average, and that's what ROTJ is too.
Return of the jedi is by far my favourite movie. Probably because of the difference between empire and rotj, Luke was so young a naive and in this one he's quite the force to be reckoned with. Him entering Jabbas palace the way he did was a clear sign of his growth between the films. Your opinion however cosmonaut, is valid.
Pretty sure anyone can draw the conclusion that Leia wasn’t asking Jabba for money, she was only saying that so she’d look and sound like a bounty hunter
So she risked killing herself to do so? There was absolutely NO OTHER WAY TO PROVE THAT SHES A BOUNTY HUNTER?!
"Look the have little sticks."
* Shows multiple giant logs rolling down a hill and taking out a walker *
Not by damage mind you, but by tripping it like a parent stepping barefoot on so many Legos.
@@3Rayfire I don't think you're seeing it from a proper point of view. Think of the huge weight of the head of the walker falling from it's height. That's what would damage it. Not the logs.
7:25 That’s because he was too focused on killing Luke and didn’t sense Vader turning on him. That’s also the reason why Mace Windu didn’t sense Anakin’s betrayal
Tbh the force is rlly poorly explained in the films. Many battles can be completely ended with them just force choking or graabing each other but they don't, and an explanation is never given in the films so alot.of.ppl start nitpicking the fights and things like how come palpatine never sensed Vader's betrayal
Also Vader is very powerful and could probably conceal his feelings to an extent
That is a shit excuse tbh... One of the most Powerful beings in the universe who can also apparently see into the future was "Distracted" yeah ok bud... 😐
@@ZombieOwlYT i mean.. hes about to kill the last jedi that could save the galaxy, if i were pure evil and was focused on killing my last enemy id prob be in deep not thinking of the other surroundings
@@dar6gh but again he can see the future so how come he wasn't ready for it. Also these force users can sense others without them even being in the same room, idc how much in the moment he is in killing Luke there is no way this mf doesn't atleast feel a tiny shiver in his spine when Vader is even debating on whether he should kill him or not.
Ah yes, the “I love Star Wars, but, I also fucking hate Star Wars” type of fan… Yeah, like 80% of Star Wars fan base
You don't have to like everything that comes out about star wars to be a star wars fan
All I wanna say is... Victory Theme >>> Yub Nub
Have a great day everyone.
TS Prism Everyone has opinions.
The only good change
Actually the rebellion simply wrecked the galaxy and made it vulnerable to the organic might of the droid hating Yuuzhan Vong
charles Receski Dude that's not even Canon...
The ONLY change I like!
"Why wouldn't he tell C3PO the plan?" Because 3PO is a tattletale and he'd spill the whole thing under the slightest bit of pressure. xD
Natya Rudh restraining bolt
I love how he can point out flaws in this favorite of many Star Wars fans. The whole opening sequence with jabba and how it doesn’t work. And yet The Last Jedi is better than this in his opinion? Hahaha NO just NO. None of these problems in ROTJ ruined the trilogy as a whole. TLJ killed a trilogy on the second film. I can get behind some of his critical analysis but to claim this isn’t Star Wars at the end for ROTJ he’s ignoring a lot of glaring flaws in TLJ. Very inconsistent criticisms. I’m starting to notice this a lot about this guy. Still enjoy his videos but very inconsistent.
@@namesaretuff Delivering C3PO to Jabba with a restraining bolt is as good as *broadcasting* that the droid is likely hiding something he doesn't want to get out. Jabba would have it removed immedeately and goldenrod would spill the beans. That's not a chance Luke would've been willing to take, I know *I* wouldn't.
Natya Rudh Oh right
Yoda dying might be the only true moment where I actually felt true emotion in a Star Wars movie.
I loved every moment with luke, vader, and the emperor, imo the best star wars scenes. And also how when Luke gets his lightsaber and just says fuck jedi technique and swings it a baseball bat and destroys everybody.
For me, I lean towards the good usually outweighs the negatives if it's equal. I definitely liked this movie. It's the only one to be fun, while having a serious tone and balance it perfectly.
10,000 Subscribers without Videos no emotion when Luke fought Vader in the throne room?
Vlad II Dracul not the same type of emotion. I was close to tears the first time I saw that part, and it's crazy that it's from a puppet lol.
10,000 Subscribers without Videos have you seen order 66?
UltimateUchiha2K that was no where near emotional. Besides yoga and mace, we didn't really get to know any Jedi who were killed. It's basically just a bunch of faces being killed off, not as investing.
10,000 Subscribers without Videos just because you don't know a character, doesn't mean that there is no emotion behind their death. Besides, order 66 was not just the fall of the Jedi, it was the fall of Anakin. You see him attack the temple--his home. He killed children. The Jedi, who symbolize hope, peace, order, abd Justice, died. The light in the dark galaxy was snuffed out. On top of John Williams brilliant score, it was probably the most emotional moment in star wars history.
One last thing. Yoda disappeared. The last time we saw that, the guy who disappeared came back as a ghost. Everyone knew that Yoda would become one too. The Jedi in order 66 didn't. That was the sad truth of moment.
Order 66 was far more emotional than Yoda's "death"
“Boba fett is dead as fuck”.
*4 years later*. He’s back Like a bantha
😂
The funny thing is, I love this one. I saw it when I was like 10 and loved every bit of it. The scenes in Jabbas Palace, the cute teddys fighting for their planet/moon and the epic fight at the end where luke nearly breaks. Seeing Lando flying the falcon was also kinda cool but I have to agree that building another Death Star and having more or less the same outcome than the first movie is kinda lazy.
It’s a great last act bar the endor battle which is a bit silly. And that last act is what we all remember and it makes us forgive the first two acts which are honestly fairly boring on repeated viewings
@@davidgeisler9885 I love the whole Jabba part tho
I'll posit that the reason you love it is because you were 10 when you saw it. I undeservedly like a number of mediocre movies because I saw them at an impressionable time.
I feel the opening of Return of the Jedi was successful, but I would make some changes to the rest of the film.
I would change the plot from there to have Han and Leia follow a lead from Jabba’s Palace to Coruscant (kind of a WW2 French spy thriller vibe), and Han, Chewbacca, and Leia discover a method to use Spice routes to smuggle rebel troops past the Imperial fleet to storm the Imperial Palace. Blade Runner was released in 1982 so the effects were possible for Coruscant. Luke is now a symbol of hope for the galaxy, meaning he will bring the return of the jedi order and peace to the galaxy. The rebel troops inspire the Coruscantians to rise up (maybe there are Wookies that were inspired by Chewbacca, which helps turn the tide).
Lando and a new character (maybe someone that infiltrated Jabba’s Palace with him so they have a rapport) would follow a similar path to the actual movie leading the space attack against the Imperial fleet, but the attack on the fleet is a smoke screen to distract the actual goal of sneaking in the ground troops to the surface; Lando could have subplot about convincing the rebel fleet on a suicide mission that functions as a distraction.
Luke would similarly follow a similar path to the actual movie, but I would have had Luke be training Leia in the Force between movies (it’s clear in Empire Strikes Back that she can use The Force so why not have that training occur off screen or in an early scene…maybe Leia uses the Force during the Jabba mission). I would also not make Leia and Luke related; the scene where Luke snaps when Vader says “If you will not turn, maybe she will…” still works, especially if Leia is on the planet at the time. Luke would still confront the Emperor, but it would occur at the Imperial Palace. There would be additional tension because Luke falling to the Emperor’s side would snuff out the new hope that he has provided to the people of the galaxy.
The rebels are successful with taking the palace and there is a celebration to the end of the civil war. Maybe Han dies so Harrison Ford can have his dream fulfilled. The end.
The other stuff is fluff the real story is between luke vader and palpatine and its fantastic
The Emperor “foreseeing” things (or his failure to do so) is one of the themes of the film. Yoda in ESB preaches the folly of looking away to the future. (One of the ironic inversions in the prequels, where Yoda and the Jedi are all about prophecy and future-seeing, except for Quite-Gon- who tells Obi-Wan to cut that out.) 6-film moral: Keep your mind on what you’re doing right NOW, or you’re going to have a bad time.
Multiverse I think that Yoda’s opinion has changed because of those times. He’s developed and learned from his experience. There was a comic not too long ago about how Yoda blamed himself for being to caught in the future to focus on the present and the evil approaching. Which causes him to exile himself like he does. It’s really a sad moment. But overall It’s a nice little arch that Yoda goes through.
"Skywalker, still looking to the horizon. You are here, NOW, the need in front of your nose!"
All of Star Wars truly is about the decisions we make now, whether redeeming ourselves for our mistakes or trying to better ourselves and those around us. Great lessons.
That's definitely possible and Imma use that from now on lmao, but tbh I feel like it's also possible that Palpatine just had some inconsistencies and happened to align with that theme lol
all my homies love Return of the Jedi
Cause it’s a good movie
I loved it as a child and i would watch it again and again
@tom gu yeah but not sequel bad it’s like a five b it sequels are a two
@tom gu then what is it
One of the reasons why ROTJ sucked is because Gary Kurtz left the project. He knew....
I can see why people don't like this movie. Its still my favorite Star Wars film though.
Yeah, but I just wished that instead of Ewoks we got to see the Wookies. However, the wookies in Revenge of the Sith weren't so bad either.
It was originally going to be Wookies, but George thought that by ROTJ, he had already established them as a technologically advanced species and one of the themes he wanted to explore was a primitive species fighting the evil Empire, and so the Ewoks were born.
Awake Now episode 3 was the best
How do you fucking like this movie
The dialogue was alright, the Endor could've been much better, but it's fine just the way it is. Just. Like. The Prequels.
The revealing of Luke and Leia being siblings, I'll admit, *was* pretty awkward, but Darth Vader vs Luke was just the best Saber fight. Ranked 2 next to Darth Vader vs Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith for me! But I understand your opinion.
>boba fett dies
Dave filoni: I bet you feel real stupid right now huh
Yeah but in the later half he really gets wasted
Well, oficially he was really dead, but after Lucasfilm fucked up star wars with episode 8 and 9, they desperately made him alive coz fans like him to at least save the ashes of the past SW legacy.
Laughs in Darth Maul
@@Judas_1989 Even before Disney Canon, Boba Fett was alive in Legends, it was only recently added to canon
And then they butchered him as a character in his OWN SHOW. Should've just disappeared after his appearance in Mandalorian
Palpitine didn't see his death comeing because he was so deep in the force in that moment and enjoying Luke's pain
in legends it's implied heavily that Palpatine didn't care about that "body" as he had figured out the ability to transfer his conscious into another body or soul and power into another body as the one he was in was dying which could make him immortal before luke killed him with the help of leia i believe
So deep... that's what she said
so... like snoke in the last jedi?
Em Dyson he not dead
Sounds like made up bullshit
“Big foot in the snow”
Yeti: Am I a joke to you?
This and Revenge of the Sith are my favorite Star Wars movies I’m gonna be honest
Vanity Weird Opinion but ok
@@BK-sh2pn No. It's a great opinion. Revenge if the Sith is a masterpiece
General Kong I would definitely say no but ok
General Kong Hahahahah! Are you fucking kidding me. Revenge is not a masterpiece it has many flaws. It’s so overrated. How come Star Wars fans are bunch of dumbasses now! Why do you ppl like Revenge so fucking much it’s really not that good at all.
@@BK-sh2pn "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"
"As far as the new cannon is concerned, Boba fett is dead"
The Mandalorian: Are you sure about that?
Ahhhh beat me to it 🤣🤣
"Oh I don't think so"
I personally always felt that the whole first act was intended to build tension for the execution scene, and Luke backflipping and grabbing the green lightsaber to heroic music is the most perfect payoff I’ve ever seen on film, at least to me.
AND I love that the final confrontation with the Emperor and Darth Vader is so psicological... In short, if you take Endor out and replace with... basically anything... this movie would be just as good as the other two to me. Slower paced, sure, but great all the same.
Gustavo Medeiros anything except jar jar or the casino scene on ep 8 xD
Gustavo Medeiros Then legends ruined it with the palpi clones.
Gustavo Medeiros But why didn't R2 get that chip put on him? If he did luke would be dead.
That screaming at the end was PRICELESS! 😂😂😂😂
I just realized something
“I used to live here you know”
Like no shit? You MET eachother here
Yeah but Han wouldn't have known for CERTAIN Luke lived there.
BRUH WTF TOO TRUE
@@SPM0717 They wanted a way off the planet.
Also, Luke had very clearly never been to space before.
I have to:
Yes, Return of the Jedi might be the weakest of the three. But many of your points aren't thought through. Let me unpack this for you:
Yes, Han Solo's role seemed pretty unnecassary, but that was because his role was originally cut and just later added. Apart from that I'd like to think that Luke, Leia, Lando and all the others changed so much in the year between V and VI, Han was just a bit thrown off by their sudden competence. Remember, they all grew in the meantime, he was frozen in carbonite.
*Jabba's Palace:*
It is actually a great scene, it ends Han's arc with him owing money to Jabba. And Luke's plan actually makes sense. He didn't tell C-3PO any details for the obvious reason that 3PO is a naive coward who would have spilled the beans by accident. That is made clear because R2, the more clever one of the two, was involved in the plan. He's got Luke's lightsaber.
But no, Luke didn't plan out exactly everything. He didn't plan to fight the Rancor and then go to the Sarlacc pit. He gave R2 his lightsaber to make sure there is a plan B. When he nodds to Lando, that obviously is the plan B. Look at how serious and pumped Leia looks when Luke is on the plank. She knows shit is about to get real.
*The Ewoks:*
Yes, the original idea to have Wookies instead of Ewoks would have been cooler. But agaim, you underestimate Luke's character. He joined the group and travels to Endor. He senses Vader on the ship and gets this feeling that something is happening. He doesn't quite know what, he wonders wether he should have come or not. The speeder chase happens and they all end up at the Ewok village. And then, when they all sit around the fire and 3PO tells them, they have become part of the tribe and the Ewok's will help them there is one shot of Luke standing at the door and having this look that says "Ohhh, so that was the reason why I came here. Now I can leave and confront my father" and that is exactly what he does.
*Vader meets Luke:*
You might find it boring and off hoe they interact with each other after the confrontation on Bespin. But it is sooo subtle. The look they give each other for the first time. One can just imagine what is going on in their minds at that moment. They way Luke speaks is very reserved and serious. He pushes his own confidence and when Vader activates his lightsaber behind his back it is so unsettling. Both of them must have gone through that conversation hundrets of times. This moment means much more that you think
*The space battle:*
No idea how you can dislike that, it's awesome
*The second Death Star:*
Sure, one could argue that it is just a rehash to have a second Death Star. But think about it, it just makes sense. The impirial power depends on it. The impirial senate was given up in favour of a weapon of fear to "Keep the local systems in line". They needed that Death Star as an instrument to keep the galaxy under their control. It's a tool a fear.
*The duel:*
Again, you argue nothing much happens, the fight is short and not really action packed. But this is exactly the poinz, it's not about the duel itself, it's about what it means. In the end it is all about Luke winning and deciding to spare his father. The real conflict - Luke even says that - is the conflict within. He doesn't give into his hate, he spares his fathers life and decides to die instead of joining the Emperor.
Return of the Jedi might not be the best of the trilogy but it got it where it counts, kid. You underastimate it very much.
Just wanted to say 'Thank you!' . And no, that is not sarcasm.
@devil-haha said it right my friend...I cannot dispute some of the problems I. The movie that we're touched upon, however I'm fine with looking past them since I appreciate the very elements of the plot you just described here...and I'm a hardcore ESB fan lol
Your whole counter argument is just re-narrating the movie. The Evoks scenes last much to long and are in fact BORING. Han character being cut and being readded later is not an excuse. The performance and dialogs were bad. Star Wars is a movie that tries to impress the viewers and the last fight with Vader was dull and lame as fuck. The reunion between Vader and Luke was rushed. This whole movie was an embarrassment to the franchise. Sometimes you gotta look past the nostalgia...
XXX1 XXX2 Man some people don't get star wars and critique it like they understand all the themes and meanings.
First off your personal interest in the ewoks and their scenes is irrelevant, If you find them boring great, Not everyone does, And they do infact, Add a lot to the plot ( I will concede that it did feel like they pushed them a bit to far though and they became a slight toy commercial, But they did still add to the plot)
Hans character being readded and ending his story are fine, I don't even get why it would be a problem that he's not a huge part of the movie, He wasn't meant to be and thats clear, It's lukes story now.
The performances and dialog is bad, Ok this is a subjective point again, Your opinion on the acting is irrelevant, Most people found it to be fine. I'll ask what dialog or moments in the performances you found bad because i'm curious though
And again the Luke and Vader fight is a bit subjective, But saying "it's lame" because their isn't much action? I'm sorry but you've completely missed the point, Star wars is not about light sabers, It's about the characters conflict and the lightsaber fights are ways of showing that conflict in a visual way.
To say Return of the jedi is an embarrassment to star wars when we have movies like Rouge One and the entire prequel trilogy is absurd to me, I can't even understand that part of what your saying
tldr holy shit was that nerdy
headcanon is no excuse my dude
I think the beginning was multiple failed rescue attempts, first a bargain that fails, then Leia sneaking in and failing, then Luke making a last ditch effort to rescue everyone and failing, then finally then make the plan to break out
I also think it was part of the plan that the plans sucks, so they dont pose a big threat to Jabba. His palace was full of bounty hunters and guards, if they went full murder on the heroes,, some of em probably would have died.
I was 11 when it came out (like many others, I see!). I remember loving the experience, feeling like it was going by too quickly, wanting to savor every moment. But as we waited outside for my parents to pick us up and the crowd surrounding me was euphoric and talking about how cool it was, I felt for the first time in my life a distinct gap between what I was feeling and what they were expressing. It was disappointment, but it would take a long time for me to acknowledge it. Meanwhile, I bought the toys, books, tapes, and posters. There was enough to love about Return of the Jedi to forget that initial feeling and just keep on being a Star Wars fan.
Then it came. I was in college when the February 1997 issue of Sci-Fi Universe magazine hit the stands. In big bold letters, the cover read, "FIFTY REASONS WHY WE HATE RETURN OF THE JEDI (and love Star Wars...). Reading it was cathartic. It was clever, genuine, and funny writing, obviously posited by people who really loved the franchise. My buddy and I would take turns reading it aloud to each other like a performance, it was so good. There was a side bar about all the ways Jedi was amazing, too.
You hit a lot of the points covered in the essay, and I appreciated the deeper look and personal perspectives brought with this video. Clear, funny, informative, and - again - with an obvious love of Star Wars.
Fun Asides:
When the Special Edition came out, it was a thrill to see the ANH in the theater again. I relished watching the younger audience that was talking and joking through Empire get completely sucked into it and shut the F up. By the time Han got frozen, the entire theater was silent and learning into the screen, dumbfounded by how good it was. The same full audience laughed a lot through Return of the Jedi. The biggest unintentional laugh came when Vader said, "My son is with them. I have FELT him." I hadn't realized how suggestive that line was, but boy did the audience roar form it.
I remember when I finally had the Special Edition, I went to watch "Jedi" and the picture shrank down to a thin line on the screen. Horrors.
Then at some point I discovered the Star Wars radio dramas, which were pretty good.
star wars Kinect was the best movie.
Star Wars: Youngling Massacre (VR Edition) is vastly superior in every way
Slade Wilson the Mercenary Everyone always wonders why I masturbate whenever I play that.
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