So the video you have pinned here has doom slayer dying in it which can not happen because in the secret lore (sadly it's been completely wiped from everything I could find) which states that he was blessed AND given a very sneaky feat that makes him be able to summon the full power of hell if he is in near state of death (with no 1 ups) of which he could destroy all of any space marines with ease then with that power (I think it was posted 14 days ago but the internet will not say it exists because it's meant to be a secret and was only up on a site which i can not name because it will get me in a shit ton of trouble that requires a master name and password to get into and do ask me how I got it)
Couple of problems here. 1. The Praetor armor is proof against non hell attacks. When it was discovered by the UAC they used a laser with the heat of the sun to get a sample. Even after several hours of exposure there was not even a scratch. Also the Slayer launched himself with a railgun into the side of a building. He landed on his feet and not only was the armor unharmed but so was he. 2. The DOOM Slayer does not get stamina from demons. Demon energy gives him health, ammo, and further increases his strength. The Slayer has infinite stamina he does not require food, water, oxygen, or rest of any kind. When he fought the titan the fight lasted a decade. 3. To stop the Slayer, the demons collapsed a temple the sized of a city on top of him. This only STUNNED him. It lasted a few moments and was just long enough for them to cast a quick spell to rip him free of his armor and seal them both away. Had he been in full control the spell would not have worked. 4. Tactics are not lost on the Slayer. He simply prefers the quickest solution but can think outside the box when needed. He is a trained marine and he did learn from the Night Sentinels.
also Doom Slayer killed a titan without his praetor suit and I am confident that Titans are way more powerful than Space Marines I kinda want to see how Slayer killed it, that would be an epic battle... Come on Bethesda, make a short cinematic of their battle
@@blob643, simply the Slayer with a barebones sentinel suit (or butt naked if that got destroyed because time and fights), some weapons he collected, and he kept shooting, run n gun, when ammo was out, he just start a fist fight.... A decade later: Slayer won and was ripping the titan huge guts
When you get into the lore, the slayer's ability to absorb and devour the essence of demons to sustain and empower himself means he's similar to the alpha pariah; meaning he would present an existential threat to the ruinous powers themselves, for every demon he kills is a tiny piece of one of the dark gods.
Not sure the nationality of the narator, but in England, we use imperial for measurements to do with people (e.g. height, weight, waist measurements), and metric for literally everything else.
@@Usernamesdontmatter1 He would never deal with Chaos because the act of killing them only makes them stronger. I believe he is far more likely to fall victim to chaos, but be under the false idea that he is not corrupted.
@@NoName-fj3pi I mean the lore outright says the doomslayer is incorruptible. There are a few beings and even entire factions that are immune to the corruption of chaos. We also know that warp entities can be devoured or killed permenantly using the right kind of power, but be under the false idea that things are only bleak for anything but chaos. The ruinous powers aren't invincible.
Well , he would go for the Warp , yes , but I don't think he would exactly kill any human , he would more or less try to fix everything like he did in every Doom game. If I'm being honest , Doomslayer would be able to kill Khorne's demons , no , I'm serious , whatever he slays , he becomes more powerful (as the effect of absolutely taking the souls of the ones he slays , and the power that the soul has/had , even demons are effected by this) , by the time Khorne gains power from all of the hatred across the world , Doomslayer would already be more powerful from killing those demons , and don't get me started on the fact that his powers can't be used against him , even if Doomslayer were to enter Warhammer 40k universe , nobody could take or use his power , even his anger , meaning Khorne wouldn't get more powerful as a result , even though that does sound like utter bullshit
@@djordjepopovic7568 Did you really read the doom lore? He gets more powerfull becouse his armor uses the hell/Argent energy left after the demons are dead (and the hell energy requires souls to be transformed so no, unless you can show proof that the suit can transform souls into energy it can not). The warp entities would not strenghen him becouse they have none of this energy. They are literally emotions, feelings and concepts materialized feeding of the emotions, feelings, concepts and beliefs.
"Has zero concept of tactics" He was a trained marine before he became the doom slayer and was also trained as a night sentinel soldier. Yup, a twice trained soldier wouldn't have tactical knowledge, eh?
the only reason why Doom guy run and gun is because of his extreme buffs pretty much super durable and super strength etc... and It's easier than the demons just goes to him then he going to them
@@lag00n54 he does what he does because of the fact that the demons dont need any tactics to fight especially when you're the doomslayer who can tank anything they could throw at him
@@emiliianoportillo1311 Evidently, the concept of time and character growth, degradation, or development is lost on the Doom Slayer entirely. The consistency of his rage, and even growing strength of it over all that time just shows that he is both physically and mentally completely unaffected by time as a force of change. Entropy does not apply to the Doom Slayer.
@theamateuridiot "lacks the experience" Doom 2016 confirms that the slayer has been around fighting in hell for eons and is unable to age due to the fact that 1. Hells time works different and 2. I'm pretty sure the divinity machine made him immortal
I mean, if we go by told qualities of a universes canon, a lot of games and sci fi series beat the IoM, if we go by actually competently written (mostly game series based) achievements, its still a ok chunk that beat marines. Doom marine/BJ2/the beast/Slayer is probably the most super soldier instead of "40k never understood how technology works and had too many bad displays of power compared to good in both books and games to account for it as a fluke instead of standard thus gets ripped a new one"
ANDELE3025 Id say if Halo during ancient times invaded 40k they would win. Forerunners, Precursors, Ancient Humanity, and THE FLOOD against Necrons, Old Ones, Eldar, Orks, and Chaos
@William Smith Depends on which version of the Forerunners. The ones described as gods that have no limitations within the realm of physics or the ones who can't stop space zombies. I hate how conflicting the tech is versus the evidence. (For reference I over simplified the flood to make a point. No matter how smart a grave mind is, it's limited by the pretty low power it's bioforms can display. If the Forerunners were as powerful as described this shouldn't have been a threat to them.)
@William Smith I know all of that. I know every single thing you just said. My point is that if the Forerunners were as powerful as the many claims even everything you just said would be pointless. There would be no consuming of biomass. No life would be absorbed because they could flip a switch or press a button that just annihilates them at an early stage of development. Maybe you don't even realize that simply saying nothing short of the halos can stop them is just repeating something that doesn't make any sense. Why? This is the biggest issue with Halo's lore. I've read dozens of the novels and it's a great setting and a lot of it is very well written, but every time they dig into the power of the forerunners it becomes space magic with no limits, except they still lost to a life form that has a slow build up time and physical limitations. Limitations the Forerunners are not supposed to have. It's the same reason the didact was a bad villain in the new trilogy. If he was the incredible being he was described as he wouldn't have been beatable. Halo builds up things to such a degree that they become memes. But when it's time to use them in a story it falls apart because you can't tell a compelling story about a race with no limitations.
@William Smith you keep trying to explain this as if you're talking to someone who hasn't read the books. Our disagreement doesn't stem from my being ignorant on the lore. It stems from a common literary mistake that the halo universe suffers from terribly. You can't make the Forerunners out to be as powerful as you do and then have virtually anything be a threat. They can do anything imaginable... Well except build drones that are bullet proof or capable of stopping flood hybrid forms. It's just bad writing. Halo is at its best when it leaves the Forerunners mysterious. The less we know the less there is to pick apart.
"Has no concept of tactics..." To be fair, he has been trained in two separate militiaries, although he probably doesn't use them against the demons since both of them lost to Hell...
The only tactic that works against hell is one of ferocity, speed and brutality. To kill with extreme prejudice while simply weaving among their innumerable hordes. When you wield a Double Barreled Shotgun large enough that the real life equivalent is powerful enough to kill rhinoes and literally can't be wielded by hand without killing yourself, and then you always shoot both barrels at the same time (the force being enough to actually destroy your hands, in the hands of a normal person), the man who only wields what is essentially a slow-firing 50 caliber machine gun is a little bitch-tier in comparison. Considering Doomguy wielded a normal DB Shotgun, shot both barrels and was also fast enough and strong enough that there was no backlash, AND THEN he got the Angel upgrade. An astartes in light power armor could probably do what he did before the Upgrade, but honestly, I've said this plenty. Doom Slayer is as comparable to a normal Astartes is, as a Primarch is to an Astartes of a completely different chapter/legion. Aka not very for capability. The weaponry he uses, more or less equates to far more versatile Devastator weaponry, and the guy is so strong that firing them doesn't slow him down and doesn't convey almost any recoil that affects aim. Also the BFG is so powerful that the orbital cannon equivalent, is literally just an attachment that amplifies and focuses the BFG's already ridiculous power, and Hell itself fears it in his hands. There probably isn't a weapon in 40K that compares to the BFG, where, in the right hands, Chaos itself shits a collective brick by the mere thought of it.
also, don't forget that the Doom Slayer usually works on his own against overwhelming numbers. So tactics would (in his eyes) probably just be a waste of time While the Astartes usually works in unison with other Astartes, so tactics are more vital
@@erwinhilgers5574 true ... plus is not like brutality is gonna make demons scared and flee either even the Baron of hell has no sense of self preservation so the Doom slayer just does whats gonna kill them faster , he doesn't strategies bcuz he doesn't need them
I'd like to point out that the UAC did stress tests in the Doomsayer's armor and they couldn't determine it's durability because literally nothing they could do to it did any damage.
Yup.. warp corruption can be a boon as much as a curse. For exemple plague marines have all that insane durability, but are rather sluggish compared to loyalist space marines, letting themselves get hit a lot more often than a normal marine would allow. The most gifted make anyone around them feel like they are moving in molasses as a way to further make up for it, but its not something the baseline plague marine has access to. Overall though, what chaos marines gain in raw power, they tend to lose in sanity, tactics and the quality of their teamwork
@@BrotherCairus that's another interesting point to add in, plaguemarines may count as demons and heal DG when he kills them, plague bearers definitely will.
Warp Deities: Yo Big E , we have a human that kinda looks like a space marine thats causing all sorts of trouble for us, do you know this guy? * Shows an image of DoomSlayer raping a greater demon with ease * Emperor: I didnt made him but he feels like a son to me so imma call him my son now
Unless the Doom Slayer has the BFG, there is no way he would survive the caliber of the Bolter for very long. This is coming from a massive doom fan. He gets ripped apart by demons without weapons, so I think a gun would kill him pretty fast. Im new to the Warhammer genre, but I think I have enough knowledge. Doom Slayer's armor is built to survive hell's weapons and plasma, not full on actual projectiles.
well, didnt doomslayer get turned into a god? and doesnt he actually getb stronger with each kill of a demon he does? i would think throwing him in the warp is a horrifying idea as its literally an xp farm for him lol. im not too well versed with 40k so dont take me too seriously, but isnt there a realm in 40k much like hell where it's whole point is constant slaughter for this one god? and wouldnt doomslayer eventually be able to kill said god due to the exponential curve of power increase from an infinite power source for him?
@@m3rasmus Most demon attacks use Argent which is the only thing that can breach his suit. Unless the marines start using Argent infused Bolter rounds they won't do shit.
@@m3rasmus He got shot out of a railgun into a reinforced wall of a building. That aint hell energy chief, that is pure physical damage we talk about. Its hard to judge, because you cant take a games simple difficulty mechanics that makes a game challenging as a test of durability on him or his armor. I doubt that a bolter would do much on his armor, maybe stagger him if he gets completely sprayed. Mind you, it took the demons to collapse a whole fucking city on his ass to merely stun him for just long enough to put a spell on him.
Before ancient gods: yep sure he will After ancient gods: mate he would just punch this marine and the marine would die so hard that his entire legion and primarch would die from pure shockwave of this punch
It should be noted that dodging a BFG shot doesn't really work. At least not normally. Remember that the main projectile is only half of it, the plasma ball shoots out tendrils of Argent plasma at every enemy in line of sight of it. Meaning the only way to avoid a BFG shot is to take cover.
You need to stay out of LOS to the projectile, a marine's armor would give him a decent shot at realizing that in time to survive, but he'll be pretty cooked reguardless.
@@tamasrehany6532 From what I recall it's effective for pretty much everything IT REALLY DUCKS UP _anything with moisture basically_ *AND IT REALLY DUCKS UP DEMONS*
The BFG-9000's Plasma Tendrils seek out Argent Energy. Since a Space Marine's Armor doesn't use an Argent Power Source, they don't have to worry about the BFG's AOE. However, the Core of Argent Plasma would still be effective if the Marine suffered a direct hit from the Doom Slayer.
>Doomslayer no concept of tactics >Doomslayer targets enemy weakpoints, keeps weaker enemies to farm for HP, Armour and Ammo, and prioritises enemies such as the Archvile, Doom Hunter and Tyrant due to their high threat level.
And thats still like kindergarden when compared to the thoughtprocess of an Astartes before he even enters battle. A spacemarine doesnt even need to think about which target to chose. This is programmed into his brain while he even becomes a Spacemarine.
Well doom slayer is weaker in close quarter combat, He’s just fast and blessed with the strength to punch demons face in.. but not a lot of physical strength in terms of how much damage he can take, so take away his guns, disable his legs somehow, boom dead, and I love doom slayer but he’s pretty weak if demons had actual tactics
True, but gameplay should be treated as the true lore and is why halo is in fact filled with pussies that would die to half a zerg swarm (or any drop thats more than 4m).
@@ed8212 Nope and that second line only is limited to pvp games. Pve games gameplay (which is in fact both the vast majority of 40k games and the doom series but also most other games often brought up to 40k comparisons, as pve and pvp balance is usually quite vastly different) is the closest accurate non-subject to subjectivity representation of a universes possible feats.
This is so wrong in so many levels. As a Warhammer fan i can easily say Doomslayer would absolutely demolish any Space Marine with his bare fists alone, while being completely naked. Fun fact: Doomslayer uses guns because he thinks they are fun and not because he actually needs them. Yes Space Marines are awesome and extremely potent in their own rights, but they are not on the same level as an being, that rivals deities. Doomslayer literally killed the Devil/God of his universe and fucked hell by himself. So what makes people think, that an mere Astartes could even remotely pose a threat to this guy. You would need the top dogs of the Warhammer Universe, like the Primarchs to even give this guy a proper battle, let alone kill him. Even Khorne would probaly start sweating, when Doomslayer enters the throne room, while the Emperor would jerk off like crazy to the massarce of the Deamons of the Warp, that the Doomslayer starts by himself.
Hate to admit it but yes Doom Slayercan easily take down a space marine even few with just his blade and bare hands. Seen too many space marines die easily in the hands of ordinary enemies. Have seen space marines died from single shot and stab. Even the primarchs don't stand a chance. Just compare the enemies they fought and killed, you get the idea.
Some Random Dude Well to be fair the Blood Ravens like every other space marine and genetically and biologically augmented super soldier in the imperium besides the Sisters of Battle are castrated with no ball or stick. Also Please put a r/whoosh in your reply to me.
@AwwwhYyyyeah Totems that increases demons' strength and speed, demons that can summon demons until death, demons made specifically to kill the slayer and demons that were once part of the same warrior faction he was a part of.
Yeah no. Shoot gun, shoot bigger gun, and shoot gun more, do not count as tactics. Doomslayer has NEVER been shown to display any tactical ability at all. Hes just a berserker running to the nearest thing to kill and pulls the trigger until it stops that whole breathing thing.
Fun Fact: When the doomslayer takes damage in games, it is cannon that that is only a feature to balance the game, as the doomslayer is literally unkillable.
@@thekrampuselbananoquevivee9947 Nah, it makes sense within his lore if you give a read through. Game wouldn't be fun if you just couldn't die and one shot everything simply letting a fart rip.
I remember hearing that the slayer can one shot most demons with his bare hands and he uses guns to nerf himself... Mainly so they die as slowly and as painfully as possible. he a THICC BOI!!
yea he could basicly just punch his way through Hell but doing it with Guns is just more Fun and gives Demons mor Pain and Agony.....also more ways to Kill them......
Nerfing himself with guns a myth probably made up by a TH-camr. Doom Slayer thinks in practical terms and wants the demons dead as quickly and as efficiently as possible, it wouldn’t make sense for him to have fun when he doesn’t care. In a developer stream, they stated “YES” to Doom Slayer powering up his firearms in a similar way to the quad damage. Or think of how Dante from Devil May Cry puts energy into his guns. It’s like that.
@@CollegeBallYouknow It's not. The slayer likes guns because he was a marine stationed on Mars who's training revolved around using weapons, like real life marines. After his run through hell and hell on earth, he landed in an alternate universe and was with the night sentinels who used a variety of weapons and mostly unarmed combat. It's stated several times by the lore books, in game archives and even developers that the slayer uses guns only because he likes them. The in game berserker buff where you lose your guns and glory kill 1 shot every demon with your melee attack has been stated by devs to be how strong Canon doom slayer would be, literally bare handedly 1 shotting demons that take several clips and explosives to the face to kill.
@@CollegeBallYouknow that not exactly true, look at when we uses the rage power up. He one shots ANY demon he sees. Even barons of hell, which are a a lot stronger than bloodletters imo. I mean a blood letter is like 8 feet tall and kind of scrawny, when a Baron of hell is 15ish feet and made of pure muscle and hatred. And honestly, their weapons are pretty equal in power. The machine gun fires .50 bmg rounds at a fast pace, while bolters fire slower but bigger rounds. However, the doom slayer has a whole arsenal at his disposal. Hell, he has a ballista which punches through demons like butter. He has a galling gun which turns into 3 massive guns which can mow through anything. And if warp spaghetti works like Argent, than the BMG should be able to one shot almost anything
@@CollegeBallYouknow wrong it was stated that yes he only used guns cause its more fun for him. in lore he literaly killed a Titant for comparaison one titant could take down a city by himself. And he did that naked and without armor so yes gun is literaly a cap limiter to himself. Point two is pretty much point 1. the guy is stuck in a real where TIME is not even a thing for billions of BILLIONS of year he has fought the forces of hell and nearly brought extinction to them. its a game they have to make it fun that he core basic of the doom games you have guns = you have funs. It would be a shit game if it was just berserk power boost active all the time.
i think we are forgetting the fact that the doomslayer is confirmed to be doomguy from the classic games (and doom64) which now means he also has - served a good few years as his worlds equivalent of the imperial guard before beating his commanding officer to death - stopped hell on earth without his super powers - killed the icon of sin without his crucible blade - survived the plutonia experiment (archvile hell) - and killed the mother of all demons, twice it's fair to say he has experienced more shit in a far shorter timespan than the average space marine
Then with his career as Slayer and his time fighting the forces of hell, he has an untold amount of time with endless conflict and fighting. He has far more experience than possibly any space marine.
the thing with hell is that it has some wonky space time physics so he could of been in there for a few hours before being spat out into sentinel prime (as implied in doom64) when he could been fighting for an actual eternity in our time
Space marines fight literally bio ship fleets of tyranids that are mistaken for nebulas, weebs with plasma weapons that put a giant hole in the ground when they shoot from 20 miles away, chaos legions which are basically themselves but usually stronger and in larger numbers in certain areas
@The New Soviet Union And yet, I highly doubt any Space Marine fought a 100 story demon while naked with makeshift weapons and not beefed up with their Space Marine modifications ALONE like Slayer did.
@Julian Hasan Astartes aren't the grandsons of a god. At the time they were created, prior to the Emperor's internment on the Golden Throne, he was an extremely powerful Psyker perpetual but he was very much so still human. Thus Astartes are completely mortal, just very heavily augmented super soldiers. However, the Divinity Machine, as its name implies, actually made the Doomslayer Divinity. In other words a deity or a god. So, even if the Astartes WERE the grandsons of a god that wouldn't mean _shit_ to the Doomslayer since he actually _is_ a god and is not just distantly related to one.
@@Mugthraka True. In that train of thought. Couldn't a high tier Chaos Daemon just go and kill/overpower the Angel that supposedly blessed Doomslayer, depriving him of his powers?
According to gameplay, Doomslayer/BJ would rip marines like butter. Mostly because the best 40k game is a sadly now aborted mushroomstomper baby clone of what doom has evolved into (but also because doom along with nukem are the papas of the most notable genre 40k is in other than strategy).
@@ANDELE3025 Given that space marines have guns with grenades for bullets and fire as fast as a machine gun, the only way doom guy would win would be by plot armor or gameplay shenanigans not actual firepower
@@1ElNinho1 There is no rapid fire grenade launcher with Infinite ammo in any doom,closest you got is the heavy cannon and maybe the plasma gun, bfg only has 2 shots and is a plot weapon, that's like sending a terminator marine and calling it a day, yeah I don't think you know the scope of wh40k either, doom demons are like pets for the demons of wh40k
2 were technically sealed , the Icon Of Sin and the Titan on Taras Nabad , though still dead. One he killed , the Champion Titan , while in Hell , before he got the Praetor Suit and after he had to leave the Crucible. And lets not forget that he made all of Hell scared shitless , a living dimension that casually takes over other dimensions was scared shitless.
@@JohnDJ08 you obviously don’t know doom lore so let me fill you in. the doom slayer is a primevil, a creation of god who has been around since the dawn of time. the seraphim then bestowed even greater power unto him through use of the divinity machine. he can literally consume dimensions and destroy the multiverse and all of creation if he wanted to. he’s eternal, immortal, unstoppable. the only reason he couldn’t kill the titans is because the titans are also immortal. sealing them is the only option. also he does NOT need argent energy in any capacity to thrive. argent energy is more of a game mechanic than anything else, used to upgrade the slayers suit in doom 2016. it’s not about him “beating the standard space marine”. you could throw 1,000 astartes at him it’s not going to matter. the hell energy used by demons is hotter than the surface of the sun and it bounces off of the doom slayer. that’s not a being warhammer 40k can compete with.
With all his rage Doomslayer would get lost in all the ripping and tearing and after a while he'd forget what he's fighting for and who friend and foe is. He'd end up a minor amusement for the chaos gods. Another champion spilling blood for all eternity in the great game between them. And i think Khorne would claim him to be his champion before the other gods.
@@gabzsy4924 Well, Doomslayer is pretty much just out for revenge, if you don’t know, by the Lore, the reason the doom guy/slayer is killing the demons, is because they killed his pet rabbit Daisy. This man got so angry that he became immortal just because his pet Rabbit died, something else to note, the DOOM games and Wolfenstein games take place in the same time lines, specifically DOOM 3 I know for sure, but this basically means Doom Guy/Slayer had a family member who fought and killed all kinds of Nazis. So knowing this, he does have a military background for sure, and odds are he’d kill a human only if they deserve it.
@@gabzsy4924 But you do have a point, Humans can’t stop killing each other, we’re a species that can’t ever truly unite, there’s something Cortana says in Halo legends, I adopted this logic: War is like a virus, one that’s infected all of humanity. So long as the Human race exists war will always be a possibility, it could happen at any time, without warning.
I’m sorry about getting political here, but it’s about time someone said some shit that I feel like we are ignoring. . . Trump, somehow, was closer to unifying the planet then anyone except a certain person (Better know his name by my reference.) who goes nuke happy in Civilization due to a bug when he chooses democracy, I was born in 2002. . . Even still I know that for a fact, even before I was born long there was always a war going on, sure World War One ended, but right after world war 2 started, sure it ended, but right after, the Cold War, after that, Vietnam, and so on. . . All I’ve ever known within my life span is war. . . It was one of the things that was included in the “Death, taxes, and (Insert thing here) are always certain in life” jokes for me. But once Trump came, I didn’t hear about any wars starting, infact wars had started to end, countries like North Korea who were constantly testing nukes and threatening to blow up people stopped with the threats, there was more peace then ever, and how did the Democrats react? They called Trump Hitler, they said “He’s gonna start world war 3!” They did everything they could to get him out of office. . . And all the while my family who under the Democrats rule, we were constantly moving in and out of houses, before being forced to live with my grandmother, things were hard, when Trump came in prices on things started to drop, we could actually afford things, things seemed great, but. . . Then the pandemic hit, Trump had done so much good, only for him to be forced to be put the country on lock down, did this stop him from trying to still help the country? No. Instead he said “Anyone capable of it, work on a cure, who ever can make a working vaccine first, I’ll pay you how ever much you want, just get the vaccine made ASAP.” He was having companies with the parts for ventilators who weren’t making money, he told them to start making ventilators and he’d pay them in return, just start mass producing them, he had even sent a naval vessel to New York to act as a extra hospital for COVID patients. . . But what do the democrats do? Do they unite, and try to help him? No. Of course not, he’s Republican, he’s views don’t align with what they want. They fought him every step of the way, tried to prevent him from getting anything done, they did it ever since he was elected, and the riots? He had so much thrown at him at once, he had to deal with the virus, deal with the riots, he was getting harassed by democrats 24/7, and he still kept trying to serve the people, not the government, not himself, but the citizens. He even made sure that the children at the border, he made sure they’d be taught, kept safe, fed, and eventually reunited with they’re parents, all while this was happening, and when he got infected by the virus what did he do? He refused to show weakness, instead of taking advice to get himself treated, he stood strong, to ensure the country remained safe, how did democrats respond when they learned he was infected? “Good I hope he dies!” That was one of the many democrats who hoped he would die. And yet Trump survived. . . But he didn’t get re-elected. Biden has, and already, prices have risen again, 2 wars have already started again, one of which Biden’s considered getting us involved in against Russia, and Chinas threaten to invade Taiwan, Japan coming to Taiwan’s defense. . . What are the democrats saying? Nothing, they’re praising Biden! Just goes to show how bad things are in life at times. And how we won’t ever be united as a species.
There's lore that says the Doomslayer spent "eons" in hell fighting demons without eat, sleep, or repairs. I know there are some Primarchs with similar energy, but they couldn't single handedly storm a chaos-god's dimension, kick in the door and split their skull with one hand. The way he's written, he could probably rip the Emperor out of the throne, take his seat and will himself into permanently closing the Eye and sorting the webway.
Yeah, those comparisons are kinda stupid because Doom Slayer is pretty much a god tier entity so it's more about the rules of the given universe and how it works and not personal powerlevel of X character. It's the would doom slayer be as powerful in WH40k universe as he is in DOOM universe because if yes then he would likely be the most powerful entity there.
According to DOOM: Eternal, Doomyguy is pretty much a demigod. He’s killed lords of hell, “angels”, and so on with his bare hands. Basically the equivalent of killing a greater daemon. Not to mention that Doomguy’s Slayer armor is supposed to be borderline impenetrable, as it’s forged from sort of magical shit. I honestly think Doomguy could kick the shit out of a normal Astartes with ease.
Just for context, I originally posted this comment as a reply to another comment, but I thought it would be worth posting as its own comment so more people would see it since there seems to be a LOT of people who are SEVERELY underestimating just how unbelievably dangerous the Doom Slayer really is. He survived Vega's core exploding which opened a portal to Hell and was a far bigger and more powerful explosion. From what I understand, those grenades do something similar but instead of sending you to Hell they send you to the Warp. He would shrug that off like nothing and be pissed that he was suddenly somewhere else without any prior warning. Also, cannonically speaking he is unkillable and his armor is indestructible. The first bit of evidence for his armor is that the UAC used a laser as hot as the sun on it for hours but it was completely unharmed. The second bit of evidence for not just his armor but himself as well is the fact that in Doom Eternal, he literally shoots himself out of a rail gun (meaning a LOT faster then a standard bullet) through space (meaning there was little to no atmosphere to slow him down in any way shape or form) and punched through the side of a ship and both he and his armor were in perfect condition. I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure that neither a Space Marine nor their armor could survive being shot out of a rail gun and into the side of a ship without taking quite a bit of damage. As for the Doomslayer himself well... I have already said this as a reply to another reply on a different comment on this video but I'll copy and paste it here. Two words: Divinity machine. Now, with those two words out of the way, let me explain exactly what they mean and why they are relevant. As its name would imply, that machine granted him divinity. That means that he is either a God, assuming it made him fully divine, or a Demigod, assuming it made him only half divine. Certain things seem to imply that he's a full on God rather than a demigod, but I'll get to that later. Either way, he's effectively immortal and his armor is effectively indestructible. However, that doesn't mean he's invincible. He has been "beaten" before, when he had a massive temple dropped on his head stunning him long enough that the demons could strip him of his armor and throw him into a cursed sarcophagus. Another thing to note is that when his sarcophagus was opened up by the UAC in Doom 2016, he did not wake up immediately. He was still unconscious or in stasis for at _least_ a few seconds before waking up and immediately breaking the chains that were binding him to his sarcophagus. Otherwise at the very beginning of Doom (2016) we would have watched a cutscene starting with the lid of the sarcophagus being opened rather then him waking up with it already open. As such, the demons would have had time to open the sarcophagus and unleash a massive attack in an attempt to destroy him before he actually woke up. The fact that they COULD NOT kill him despite having him trapped in that sarcophagus goes to show how far his immortality extends. If they could have killed him then they sure as "Hell" would have, but they didn't which is highly indicative of the fact that they literally _couldn't_ kill him no matter what they threw at him. Another thing to note is that there are apparently actual _Gods_ of Hell, meaning that even literal Gods were completely incapable of killing him, suggesting that the Divinity Machine probably made him quite a bit more then _just_ a demigod, thus implying that he himself is a full on God who is at bare _minimum_ on par with the Dark Gods of Hell. Plus, in Doom Eternal apparently people start worshiping him as a God and form a religion of sorts dedicated to him. This all means that while he very much so _can_ be defeated, he very much so can not be killed. Also, to the idiots saying that either he or his armor can be damaged by Argent Energy, just stop. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. It's very clearly stated in the Codex that his armor *ABSORBES* Argent Energy to empower the Slayer even further, not that it is damaged by it! The Praetor Suit being damaged by Argent Energy would be completely contradictory according to the canonical ability to *ABSORBE* it! Throwing Argent Energy at the Doom Slayer would just make him stronger not hurt him! Stop being stupid! Furthermore the same could be said about psykers and their abilities. This is because Argent Energy is essentially just people's souls and in W40k people's souls are made up of Warp energy which is what Psykers use for pretty much everything. As such Argent Energy and Warp Energy are effectively direct equivalents to eachother, meaning that the Praetor Suit would absorb the Warp Energy of any abilities a psyker could ever use on him just like it absorbs Argent Energy. Thus Psyker abilities would just make him stronger due to his and his armor's canonical abilities! Thus he is immune to psykers! Cannonically it is also DIRECTLY STATED in the Slayer Testaments that he's also completely *incorruptible* so no he would never fall to Khorn, Nurgal, Slaneesh, nor Tzeentch either! Furthermore, in Doom Eternal it is directly stated that as it grows stronger the Icon of Sin becomes not just a planetary threat, nor is it even a galactic threat, but it is a *universal* threat, which is something that absolutely NOTHING in Warhammer 40k can match. Everything there is just Galactic level at worst. Not to mention the fact that there are litteral GODS of Hell that are supposed to be more powerful than the Icon of Sin but *STILL* couldn't kill the Doom Slayer when he was trapped unconscious in a fucking Sarcophagus for who the fuck knows how long! Continuing on that note, while we don't fight the Icon at its maximum capabilities, I personally believe that it is safe to assume that it is at least somewhere around city to continental level during the boss fight. However, due to Doom Eternal's gameplay format ID Software probably couldn't accurately display its power without resorting to the Doom Slayer fighting it in a cutscene or something which would have sucked all the fun out of it, thus they nerfed it for gameplay reasons. Developers do the exact same crap in other games! In God of War for example, they sure as Hell don't portray Kratos or any of the other Gods in a way that is accurate to their cannon abilities, so don't give me _any_ crap about grasping at straws or making excuses. Either way, cannonically speaking in the lore, while he may not have any magical powers that we know of, the Doom Slayer is an unkillable God who can fight skyscraper sized Titan demons with nothing but a sword, a shield, and his classic armor and not just win, but rip them to pieces, as we can clearly see from the Slayer Testaments and the Titan's corpse in Doom (2016)! Oh, and let's not forget that the BFG 10,000 was the POWER SOURCE of the cannon that shot a hole straight through to the core of Mars, which we see firing off into space dozens of times before we actually reach it. That means it either contains or is capable of PRODUCING enough energy to blow holes into the cores of planets not just once but multiple times. Since the BFG 10,000 is the POWER SOURCE the larger cannon is probably only needed to focus the energy produced by the BFG 10,000 so it doesn't actually destroy itself and whoever is using it whenever it fires at maximum capacity. As such, it's limited ammo in the game has to be just gameplay mechanics as it should be fully capable of shooting hundreds of millions of those little green spheres it fires AT BARE MINIMUM before it starts getting even close to running out of energy, meaning it effectively has unlimited ammo. Further more, a single direct hit from the projectile it fires should completely obliterate a Space Marine, and he should be able to fire who the fuck knows how many! Tl;dr A single Space Marine would be completely destroyed in a fight against the Doom Slayer, and that's all there is to it. Period. End of fucking story. Edit: Here's a link to the lore revealed in Doom Eternal's newest DLC as further evidence to back up my assertion that the gods from Doom are more powerful than anything from Warhammer 40k. doom.fandom.com/wiki/Codex/Book_Of_The_Seraphs Edit: Here's a link to a video with clearer and just generally better arguments in favor of the Doom Slayer: th-cam.com/video/9VhnYFj2P-Yi/w-d-xo.html Update: He's officially the strongest character in gaming. He killed Davoth who is multiversal to outerversal if not true infinite in terms of power. Plus word of the Devs confirms it. th-cam.com/video/dJ7ulqjS_Vg/w-d-xo.html
@ALSO-RAN ! Beaten to death? Killed by Missiles? He got fucking shot out into space using a fucking rail gun. And since nothing can stop momentum in space he might've gone faster than just a few machs. Not to mention that he smacked into concrete at those unimaginable speeds. He sticks his landing and shrugs off the dust, completely fine. Argent Energy is literally 100x hotter than a sun. And Doomslayer's armor doesn't even budge when faced with such extreme temperature. Bruh, have you even played or read up on doom? He killed a tower of a demon named the Titan by only using his Marine armor and a sword and shield. And that was before he got his Divination.
He was nerfed because of cinematic purposes. Here's a few issues I've noted. Doom guy, despite his rage, does still have martial training, and while he may be immune to demonic weapons... It's also proven that he is highly resistant to normal firearms, considering the demonic marines that he has to kill not blowing his armor off. Those, were human firearms. And yet, little damage. Second, putting a space marine at "strongest strength" without considering their average cannon means giving them the plot armor some less popular writers wrote. Plot armor up the arse, in other words. The metal that makes up their armor is also, quite aptly, torn apart by their own weaponry. I'd figure that doom slayers arsenal, being both from a futuristic earth, and the BFG quite literally capable of reducing larger foes to splatter, as well as, well, hitting them behind cover as long as it can reach out by arc, would have hit just as hard as a boltor, rather than a god damn peashooter. simply removing the one hit wonder, the bfg, from the equation would actually balance the encounter. Another thing to note, is the Marine holding up against strikes four times his own theoretical maximum strength. His arm would have been, well, fucked, much earlier from trading blows like that, and at most, a parry was possible. Not to mention the quality of power swords versus a crucible. The later, having slayed creatures that make arch angels worry. The former, sometimes failing to hurt one infernal boi. Sure, the former has more charge, but considering its output, it's safe to say the higher density weapon would cleave through it like butter pretty aptly. And as much as I love the bait that the marine pulled... When did that ever happen in warhammer? For the 'genius level intellect' of the marines, they hardly ever seem to use strategy... Especially in singular combat. Cover, sure, but that is hardly genius in streagem or planning. Not to mention, explosions would make quick work of cover. Making the concept of a marine taking cover well... Pointless. As an added note, how the hell do you 'dodge' something you can see whilst behind cover? You can argue he looked over, be you never aim the BFG directly at anything anywho. The marine would assume the guy missed. But, I digress, this is an internet debate, and I'm getting dick hurt over this.
@@MarshallConway *laughs in shot himself out of a rail gun through space into the side of a ship and neither he nor his armor were even so much as scratched* Bolters wouldn't do shit to him.
@@noneofyourbusiness2437 Duuude I cannot stress how many times I've seen people write about the Doom Slayer not being that durable but then forgetting this one lil' feat that proves them all dirt wrong. Not to mention that he also ate up the blast of Vega's explosion in Doom 2016 which was more powerful than 170 suns
@@damienmccuinn1956 it's not just the suit, it's also the power the seraphim gave him. The Khan Makyr specifically addressed him as "you, once a mortal", clearly stating in no uncertain terms that he isn't one any longer. Of course, immortal doesn't necessarily mean invulnerable, but he has proven time and again that he's able to take a hell of a lot of punishment and shrug it off like it's nothing. The demons couldn't even kill him without his armour. Frankly, the Doom slayer is ridiculously strong and tough, as well as a fully trained marine, and then trained all over again by the night sentinels (the thing about him having no tactics is ridiculous). Are there things that can match him in the 40k universe? Obviously. But not one standard space marine. Mind you, the entire fight's a huge stretch anyway since the Doom slayer isn't hostile to humans and isn't stupid enough not to recognise one. They'd charge at the daemons of the warp side by side and rip and tear like the bosses they are.
See, this one is a bit confusing. Because there's TWO dead titans, apparently killed by him--one in Titan's Realm in 2016, and the other in Taras Nabad in Eternal. The codex entries make it seem like they're supposed to be the same one, but that's unsure.The one in Taras Nabad was definitely killed AFTER he got his powers from the Seraphim, the Titan appearing being the very reason the Seraphim used such a desperate measure. The Slayer Testament in 2016 MIGHT line up to the story in Eternal, but it also might be another one. It's entirely possible that the Slayer killed another titan before he arrived in Argent D'Nur, or after being betrayed and trapped in Hell by the Deag Priests.
@@spamhere1123 Actually there is several titans, some killed by mechs, be it on earth or elsewhere, the blade puts them on a stasis of sorts The titan realm titan is stronger and bigger than normal titans and got killed the old fashion way as he rotted away
In lore, Astartes recognize their brothers and Primarchs instantly. So what would really happen would be the Marine would recognize the lost Primarch that is the Slayer and they would go on an epic road trip through the Warp killing everything in their way.
@@omnipotentazathoth5215 Then he drop kicks the foot-ball shaped astartes across the room through the wall I wanna see an animation like that come true
I`m sorry but that can`t happen without severing his head... :| we are not talking about a human scaled sword, we are talking about a Space Marine sword.
Hypothetically if Doom Slayer suddenly just teleported into 40K universe, he could channel all Chaos god simultaneously without being corrupted at all. In 40K universe Doom Slayer would be potentially even stronger than in his own universe due to all of the death across the setting. Mortal weapons can't even hurt him, so he could easily just drop down to Holy Terra, walk the hallways of the Imperial Palace while pimp slapping the Custodes from his way to the Golden throne where he would toss the emperor to the corner and take a seat.
I think that if there is anything that we can takeaway from this is that the Lore version of the Slayer is way, WAY, more powerful than the Slayer we see in game and more people need to realize that.
*Amongst a hill of other dead sci-fi fantasy protagonists Warhammer 40k see the DooM Franchise...* Warhammer 40K: "Ah a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary!" DooM: "..." Never before have there existed words that were more true than this...
As much as I love Majorkill he’s definitely not done enough research, DOOM Guy/Slayer is away more powerful more powerful than any Space marine, Primearch or even then Emperor himself. DOOM is a God DOOM is Eternal
@@sumarbrander3354 I'm sorry to tell you this but yes doom slayer is stronger then the emperor he is a multiveral threat while the emperor is galaxy threat AT BEST.
I wouldn't say definitively stronger than the emperor. Maybe stronger than a primarch. The issue would really be if the win condition was killing. I don't think slayer could kill the emperor, but I don't think the emperor could kill the slayer either.
@@sumarbrander3354 i mean hes killed literal gods of his universe when the god emperor cant even take out galaxy threats he's way older than the emperor and hes fought armies of demons for eons straight
*Doomslayer sees a demon in the warp* Doomslayer: *Loads shotgun with malicious gleeful intent* Warp demon: Is that a new space mari... *shotgun blast noise*
Honestly: i think khorne would get defeated by Doomslayer. Afterall, he is a demonish being, and the Slayer has killed hell creatures of godlike power before(like Icon of sin. Twice.)
@@predator1704 Why would you even feed Khorne The God of HATRED , WAR , and DEATH a battery of unending rage , where every killed demon gives Khorne more power ? Your just giving Khorne another Tuska Daemon Killa but stronger and angrier which makes him stronger
@@predator1704 Every kill in anger empowers Khorne , so if Khorne gets more power , he can create more demons . DoomSlayer cant even get close to Khorne if that happens . The only way to kill Khorne is if he has a physical form and it would be done through 1 v 1 honorable combat but DoomSlayer needs to have somekind of powerup or superweapon. Khorne cant really die as long as War ,Death ,and Anger exist in the universe
Almighty Genesis why would The Doomslayer fight an Astarte though? Like, last I checked, space marines weren’t demo- *looks over shoulder for chaos marines*
Well, depends on what chapter of Space Marine he will fighting. If its Ultramarine or Black Templar, then he will have a hard time fighting them. But he will get raped by primarch...
Doom Eternal is actually perfect proof for how tactical of a mind Doom Slayer has. Use the heavy cannon to take out high-priority targets (mancubus, revenant, arachnotron cannons). Use the chainsaw on weaker enemies for a quick fuel up on ammo. Etc. Your active decision making out of game is his in game. He's far from the genius level tactical mind of an Astartes, but he's not a simple brute. He's an experienced fighter who knows exactly where and how to abuse his ridiculous strength to do the most damage. He doesn't use traditional battlefield tactics like cover and retreat because he's not built for that; he's built to sustain himself off the power of dead demons. Pure autistic roid rage is actually the best tactical choice for him most of the time.
Another good example is when he shoots a hole into mars. He just gets the information that he needs to get inside of mars and within a second he formulates the plan to use the BFG 10k to get there.
You really think a space marine can hold his own against a guy who literally beat a Titan bigger than skyscraper to a pulp with his bare hands? Also, the space marine sword cannot parry the crucible, Doomguy can literally just slice through the space marine’s sword.
No and yes the sword of the space Marines are a funny Thing but the sword of the doom Slayer too so it could be possible that this could be a normal sword fight
But then Doom Slayer can lose to a scratch off an Imp! Let's be honest.... he's a glass cannon. Roboute Guilliman went into the warp for centuries, and came back, as if nothing happened. He'd one-shot Doomguy!
@@lonestar6709 In gameplay maybe. In the lore The praetor suit was never penetrated even under test conditions. The reason why doom slayer makes these fights unfun if you take his lore context is he is in canon invincible. He's immortal and doesn't stop. These 1v1s are a pretty weighted scale when one side can't actually lose. I wouldn't say he's unstoppable, he's been stopped, but it took a fair bit of effort and coordination with a lot of demons and a bit of magic. Even then though it didn't kill him.
@@lonestar6709 The other guys already said it- but it's dumb to try to use the gameplay as your argument, after all, the Doom Slayer has to be weakened in the game or else the game wouldn't be challenging. After all, what type of challenge would the gameplay be if the enemies couldn't damage you?
@@John-Stark Emps: "What in the fuck, he is actually very cute, look at his old earth style armaments and armor and that demonic weapon, simply adorable, come to papa to tell you a good night story after you finish squishing the blueberries."
My original comment stated that slayer was a dangerous foe that could got toe to toe with the strongest space marines. But after *the ancient gods* DLC i have amended my comment. Slayer killed the literal actual creator of the universe who also created the slayer. 40k doesn't stand a chance in hell of surviving doomguy.
I personally rate Doomguy as a Primarch equivalent in capabilities. The Titan feat especially feels about equivalent to things like Vulkan fighting the Beast or Sanguinius beating Kha'Bandha.
@@theenderdestruction2362 Doom Slayer is the Doom Guy, but shit has happened to him in the time since then that raises him fucking *light years* beyond anything he was capable of when he was still just the Doom Guy. The Doom Slayer is an invincible killing machine who is quite *LITERALLY* a god or at the very least a demigod, made as such by the Divinity Machine. So nerfing him to Doom Guy levels is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Imagine doomslayer vs Kaldor Draigo (same as doomslayer since he's stuck in the warp for a few thousand years now but he also has psyker powers ) or Cato Sicarius the Plot armor of 40k
The seriphim didn't give him the power, the machine did, and it worked by making his strength match his will. The slayer is factually immortal, and tens of thousands of years old. Also the hell knight has skin as strong as a tank hull, it's in the codex for 2016.
Yeah, his incorruptible and unstoppable for eaons before he was Teliported to Argent D'ner as well. So that buff was simply icing on the cake. Dude was already abdormal.
I think DS enhances the power of guns he uses judging by how he can kill said tank-knight with a minigun It is a strong minigun but shouldn’t be tank-buster level
Considering doomslayer has fired himself out of a cannon into space stations and planets, I think it takes a bit more than bolter rounds or a power sword to drop him
I know, right? More often than not I'm shooting a BFG straight across open space to let it lightning-f**k everything for as long as possible. It does for splash damage what Stonehenge did for rocks.
@Mangoland hahahaha, this is the doomslayer, one of the strongest of his universe, against a space marine. one of literally millions of legions. 40k world would take doomslayer and devour him. I think he would become a pawn of one of the chaos gods because of his rage.
Ravenlord4711 Hazel i hope u realize the doom slayer is essentially angry jesus. its actually quite comical how stupidly powerful the doom slayer is in lore and this video really nerfs him a ton. i love 40k and doom, but the doom slayer would make legions of astartes his bitches with how hilariously powerful he and his weapons are. think about it like this: he killed a titan, which could probably give a knight from 40k a run for its money, without his armor, and just the crucible. now what would he do against an astartes WITH all his weapons and armor. i mean as far as we know, in lore, he cannot die, as he fought literally nonstop for 10 years and wasnt even harmed when he was completely incapacitated at the mercy of hell and heaven.
Ravenlord4711 on top of that the doom slayer alone made hell desperate, the realm that conquers universes to add to the demonic horde became desperate, just imagine the amount of enemies he killed, years of experience and training from the knight sentinels, and given the power of the divinity machine, the machine capable of seeing the future and the doom slayer has its power, possibly making him a demigod or an actual god, plus the demonic crucible is pure untamed argent energy, it would absolutely destroy almost every blade the 40k universe has because remember how argent energy can power entire city blocks and would go straight through the astartes blade
I think you really downplayed the strength of the praetor suit personally, but we all know the marine and the slayer would kick demon ass together instead of fighting
Well if he's using Eternal's Slayer, that Slayer wears only the most basic components of the praetor suit to maximize mobility. You can even see the remains of it in the Slayer's Fortress in the room with the old DOS PC and the guitars.
@Faity 5 A Baron of hell is canonically about 14.5 - 15 feet tall, so only a primarch could be close to a Baron's size height wise. A Marauder is closer to a space marine at about 8 - 9 feet tall.
@@justanordinaryguy._.7399 my comment is in reference to the fact that the person who made this video tried to insinuate that the Astartes had some kind of advantage based on their larger size and weight
@@magicmanscott40k No no it doesn't He's literally killed things that are superior to Demonic Princes single handedly, Demonic Princes are on the level of primarchs
While I find it cool that he did the math going by feats and lore, the DS canonically killed a being that warps universes, summons black holes, meteors, etc and actual gods. A standard space marine is jack against that. Also survived being blasted out of an orbital cannon, a weapon compare to a nuke and having meteors dropped on him without being phased. And he didn't need demonic energy to do so. Also, saying he had not tactical prowess makes no sense considering he was the head general of the Knight Sentinels, which requires such a mind. Not to mention he was also a Seargent in the Military which in their world is like a century or more beyond our current. He was both considered a deadly tactician and monstrous force. Also, he's not short lmao. He towers everyone he comes across and according to the Canon is 6'8? I believe? That's almost 7 feet so their height isn't far off. He also killed the titan with his bare hands and no suit, meaning none of the weapons the Marine has would really bother him. And even then his suit was able to tolerate the heat of a star after years if no power being in it. Kinda felt like blatant fanboyism in regards to war hammer suggesting they'd have much of a chance let alone not get ripped in two by The Slayer. The guy can walk through nukes, withstand having trillions of tons if not more dropped on him and only stagger, and handle forces capable of cracking planets. There's no way in Hell a standard Space Marine stands a chance beyond more than the first few seconds.
a big factor alot of comments were ignoring was the icon of sin, a being who could literally wipe out the ENTIRE UNIVERSE by just existing. Even says so in the offical ingame codex.
@@PapaBearIsHere he beat him by chipping a way at his health, the icon’s main mistake was not taking the marine seriously enough until it was too late. If the doom slayer was taken seriously earlier he might have died but since he is immune to all demonic weaponry the best course of action it could have taken was destroying the marine’s cover, then picking him up grated he would have had to get a good grip on him, and hold him under the lava until he was dead. The space marine is of no demonic origins or wields demonic weaponry. The marine is too run and gun too careless, he would take the space marine seriously which was the icons main mistake of the icon, I feel that this video did both of the marines justice.
@@CoffeeTablemmm nah bro.. The Slayer is literally indestructible not only because it was said in cutscenes and dialogue.. but his amps came from God (Davoth) it was said by the father that Primevals and more powerful beings are capable of killing each other and he beat Davoth's ass to submission easily (the being that created the fckng multiverse) 😂 so yeah... The Icon of Sin literally stood no chance
So let me get this straight, the Doom Slayer can solo armies that are billions strong and is literally unkillable, but we’re gonna compare him to a Space Marine who can be killed by a lucky shot from a bolter. Alrighty then.
Doom slayer literally killed demons in hell for THOUSANDS of years, And that was before he gained power from an angel. Meanwhile, that one trailer where you see orcs killing space marines with swords made out of scraps.
Hey now... the Orks have a way with their gear.... to normal people it looks like a piece of scrap metal... to them its a Choppa and they think it will cut anything so because of this it can cut.. almost anything.. sometimes.. not always.. but it works.. the Orks are.. interesting.
@@SleepySkull1 yes just like that. Although sometimes its a flamer, sometimes its a bomb that kills the ork other times it pops up some of the most perfectly toasted toast with dakka.
I love 40k, and doom, but I feel that Doomslayer would win. Yes physically it would appear that the Space Marines should win, they have the arsenal, armor and physicality to win. But Doomslayer has killed the equivalent of Bloodthirters by himself. Plus all the demons he had to kill to Get to the Bloodthirter equivalent. Doomslayer wins.
@Local Slayer Commisar Gamza did a video on doom slayer vs the chaos gods and he basically called the fight between Khorne and The Slayer was child abuse. 😂😂😭
here's the thing, the Doom marine is supposed to be player's extension in the game. he is as powerful as a character can be, and not meant for his feats to be taken literally, all the weakness are just meant for the game to be balanced. It's like when people try to make "Would Saitama be able to defeat X" from One Punch Man, He is meant to be unbeatable and a parody of the superhero trope, and I think the same applies to the Doom marine. The devs designed him to be unbeatable in the story to give the ultimate power fantasy.
Indeed. He was quite literally meant to be an unbeatable killing machine, able to accomplish any feat the game requires regardless of situation or opponent. Meanwhile, standard space marines are simply something the Imperium needs to not get their asses instantly kicked by literally every other species. Space marines do not compare and easily die to millions of things in the 40k universe, they are simply meant to be supersoldiers. Doom slayer is meant to be a vessel for the player, unkillable in nature (in the sense of reaching the end of the story. In the timeline that he makes it, there aren't any restarts or respawns, he makes it in one go)
So transfer that into the 40K universe and doom slayer would basically just eventually be unleashed on the warp either by the imperium to minimise chaos's physical presence or by a certain chaos god that feeds off of conflict, turning doom slayer into a battery. Regardless of outside motive, he would just do what he does in Doom. Kill evil unholy spawn for eternity nonstop
@@aidanmattys7488 to make matters even more insane, the doom slayer absorbes hell energy, so IF that were to apply in the 40k universe the doom slayer would actually be feeding off entities of the warp as well
@@aidanmattys7488 agreed. Plus the space marine is the equivalent of a chess piece in the table top game, with 30 years of clear and definitive strengths, weaknesses, and limitations.
@@user-zb9jn8fl7v and then the slayer would be replacing all your peices with queens and going at it (while your opponent doesn't even have all their regular pieces)
Yes Doom Slayer in the more recent version of the Doom games he is ridiculously more op than the Doom Guy in the older doom games. In fact another 40k youtuber Captain Master Valrak litteraly said he would be killing demons in the warp, but he would never die, while also being in a infinite stalemate against the Chaos Gods. If anything doom slayer is at least terminator space marine level, with at most being Kaldor Fucking Draigo or even Primarch Level Bullshit.
Faulted Bull9933 So basically what happened was that doom guy went into hell just in a event similar to the gate of molek which made emperor and Horus even more op than he already was and that’s how Doom guy became Doom Slayer. Because Doom Guy spent so much time in hell fighting demons probably because it has the same time fucking properties the warp does which made doom guy blesses by an angel and become doom slayer for killing literal trillions of demons.
@@Fau1ted basically a stable warp portal. the emperor used it to grab power from the warp that allowed him to create the primarchs. later horus used it to again gain power from the chaos gods, which was what turned him from regular old horus to bullshit powerful chaos horus.
Doom Slayers Intelligence is severely nerfed here. The Doom Slayer, according to lure, is actually a tactical genius. He looks for and exploits weaknesses. He isn’t just pure mindless rage. He uses his rage as his drive to fulfill his purpose of revenge. In the end if the Doom Slayer can find any flaw in Astartes battle tactics, he will exploit it without hesitation.
@@sethleoric2598 No, orgasms are for Slaneshi pussies. Khorne would probably be cheering him on and maybe even shouting rip and tear as the Slayer annihilates his armies.
Depends on what type of space marines you’re talking about. There’s standard space marines, Terminators, Librarians, or the Grey Knights. Pretty sure Doom Slayer can handle a standard one, and his crucible can cut through Terminator armour, but he’s going to have problems with the Librarians and the Grey Knights
@@yokgor4675 DS doesn't have a problem with anything ... the reality is that everything has a problem with DS ... drop of DS in the warp with in 3 days he would have raped the chaos gods at least a few 1000 times
Fun idea: Grey Knights are battling a massive daemonic invasion, but are slowly being driven back...then, a warp rift opens and from it they hear the chanting of "RIP AND TEAR! RIP AND TEAR!" as the Doom Slayer steps out onto the field of battle.
@@AstinCrow or rocket with remote detonator... Or sticky bombs.... Or using BFG shot to distract him to get close for a butt shot of super shotty and meathook....
@@andrehashimoto8056 Imagine if he used an ice bomb or a flame belch. Even though he wouldn't really get armor back, that Marine would have been cooked.
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 not a god. he is blessed by him, seemingly samur transfered his power onto doom slayer, cause on urdak system recognized him as seraphim. so not godly powers but angelic.
@@The_Desert_Tiger doomslayer basically is a grey knight, difference is that he just jumps straight into it without any other thought because he absolutely hates demons more than anyone ever could
@@The_Desert_Tiger Grey Knights are strong but I guess people not into the Doom lore enough tbh. People don't realize the vast difference between the two universes. In terms of power levels, the Slayer could take out multiple Chapters with ease. He could single-handedly eradicate all the Primarchs with the God-Emperor himself, even if they attack him together. I love 40k lore, but this is not even a competition. In 40k standards, the Slayer is closer to a Chaos God in terms of power, than a human or a space marine.
I think the Slayer in this instance is heavily understated. He would be better suited to a match up against the likes of Kratos than a space marine if you look at all of the feats he has done.
if it was a greyknight and he saw the demons at the guys feet i'm sure they would be the best of friends, like they just look at each other and nod in understanding
@@darthpalpalzang7914 if that would be the case , Doomslayer would just sent them all back and kill demons alone , fuck that shit , all power for him to take down Khorne.
Doomslayer: *Survives being shot from massive rail guns, heat 100s of times hotter than the sun, demons that would make Korne happy, A LITERAL MULTIDIMENTIONAL GOD THAT HE KILLS* Majorkill: "So a pathetic bolter round, knife, and a punch from a comparatively weaker being nearly kills him" Bro... you need to remake this and give the Doomslayer an actual run instead of... this..
Just gonna put this here: Doom Slayer outsmarted, out-fought, out-lasted, out-maneuvered, and out-gunned literally everything in his universe... Before he even MET the Sentinels. He, a human, literally EXILED himself TO HELL before even the GODS OF THE UNIVERSE knew it existed and then continued to LIVE and THRIVE there for MILLENNIA annihilating everything in his past with a blind thirst for rage before he was finally discovered battered up but STILL FRIGGIN FIGHTIN. ALL THAT BEFORE DOOM ETERNAL EVEN STARTS, before he even gets GOD powers. Christ almighty the fuckin' man was just Deadpool for masochists/sadists! And then, AND THEN, he is given the powers of immortality by who I can only assume was someone secretly above even the gods of his universe, at which point he continues to BLAST HIS INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY TWENTY NEW ASSHOLES. The dudes power most certainly would carry over to Warhammer 40k's universe AND intellectual property, even if his tech wouldn't. He could literally fight any average Astartes in nothing but a cotton headband with his MASSIVE MARINE WRECKINGBALLS hanging out and annihilate them completely. Even the God Emperor wasn't fully immortal to be fair, meaning that technically he's on slightly uneven ground (even if I think that a battle like that would be FAR too complicated to ever properly understand. But I think we're all missing the real point here. Slayer's innate immortality and abilities carry over, but his tech does not (aside from those with ammunition/energy that he could build himself). You know what this means, right? Our boy, Primearch Slayer, clad in CUSTOM POWER-ARMOR and gifted the ability to use it, wielding his VERY OWN chainsword and equipped with anything he wants to store in his pocket dimension. Bolter? He'll have it. Lasgun? Heavy Flamer? Check. TURBOLASER FUCKIN' DESTRUCTOR? He'll be whipping that bad boy out like a squeeze-bottle of ketchup at the hot-dog stand! Best part, since technically the humans aren't really arguing against the inquisitors (aside from heretics) Slayer is probably just gonna suit up and ride off into the warp to wage infinite war for them anyway! Win/Win. What a wonderful crossover that would be.
@@antondavidovic3996 true i also think that the doom slayer could rip atleast some parts out considering that he just ripped off a horn from a demon which was (its too long ago to remember correctly) approx the same size as himself after he "just" woke up
Pretty good take, however, you seemed to ignore the Doomslayer's massively superior strength when they began their duel/brawl. You also ignored the Doomslayer's vast experience by saying the SM was unlike any foe he'd faced, which I beg to differ. Even though the Doomslayer hasn't faced SMs before, he has fought against plenty of ranged, and close ranged foes nearly nonstop for thousands of years, and Demon's are not always mindless. Also, haven't the fireballs/fire attacks of Doom demons been calculated to be as hot as the surface of the sun? I think it's somewhat dishonest conjecture to assume the reason Doomslayer can withstand that kind of firepower is because of specific hell resistance that doesn't apply in any other scenario. It feels cheap and more than a little biased. Not to mentiom, the Doomslayer has much better feats for strength considering he was able to break the unknown metal chains in the first game, after being sealed away for a tremendous amount of time. Not to mention the fact that the Doomslayer was able to kill a titan without his gear, I'm pretty sure that's a feat no space marine, save a chapter master or top tier librarian could manage. Of course, I realize you could interpret these feats as outliers due to gameplay being somewhat inconsistent in comparison, but that just comes with the territory of comparing a game to a tabletop/books.
I wouldn't say i ignored his strength at all - he blocked a two handed downward swipe from the Space Marines Power Sword with only one hand on his blade plus the sword fight had actually broken the bones in the space marines hand
@@majorkill ah I hadn't heard the broken bone part. The blocking scene seemed to be the only instance where the Doomslayer was able to demonstrate his superior strength. A good example is when the SM picked the Doomslayer up, which makes some sense because he may be lighter, but the Doomslayer does nothing, he just lets the SM pick him up and ragdoll him. More likely is that would've turned into a wrestle of sorts, which the Doomslayer would've handily won. Anyways, I still stand by my other points. It was a good video though.
@@majorkill, the issue is the armor imo, UAC made tests, one which was using a laser cannon with laser temperature reaching core of sun temperatures (that's very hot) for hours, the suit didn't have a scratch... Plus it should be noted that the Slayer is more of a Run n Gun person, he can tank a few hits, but he prefers to keep hits to a minimum and use his experience with shooting on the move to hit his foes or keep them suppressed... Should be noted that no demon was strong enough to stun or daze the Slayerz he only got a brief Stun period when the demons dropped a temple the size of a large city on top of him (that's heavy enough to put him close to some middle tier high end superheroes), so it's doubtful an Astartes punch would be strong enough to get the Slayer to flinch
@@andrehashimoto8056 It's silly to compare WH40K where stuff is OP but everything is OP, and everyone has a weakness, and than doomguy who is "incorruptible" and has "invincible" armor (except the 3 things from his lore that can hurt him).. it's a stupid debate from the beginning, it's like trying to debate Doomguy vs Dr. Manhattan from Watchman who can twist time and reality in any way and could disintegrate Doomguy on a molecular level with a mere thought. Things from different universes shouldn't be debated unless they're built in a similar fashion, and this is not it. Space marines are super soldiers but in no way the "heroes" of the WH40k universe as they are largely expendable and are used as a tool of the Imperium, some make it to legendary status via plot but most are no names who get murked, while Doomguy is the main protagonist/hero that fights hell and succeeds in the lore and that's why he has to have plot armor that he is so and so. Even if you compared Doomguy from someone who could be considered important in the lore for WH40K, for example the Primarch Vulkan, who can't be killed no matter how bad you mutilate/disintegrate him (since he is a Perpetual being), you just get another stupid debate as they're simply not meant to exist in the same universe. WH40K got it's own rules and beings, Doom has it's own, both are cool, leave it at that.
@@95goa >It's silly to compare WH40K where stuff is OP but everything is OP, and everyone has a weakness, and than doomguy who is "incorruptible" Except it's not. The entire Malodrax book was exactly about the tests of a Space Marine's will and how indomitable it is against forces of temptation, exactly like Doomguy against the forces of Hell for a thousand years. The comparison is entirely apt to make. Additionally, the Praetor suit isn't actually impenetrable, but it is supported by an energy field to dissipate plasma (which may or may not also factor against pure physical trauma) and is obviously very resistant to anything a-la ceramite but far more consistent, if the impact compensation system and stress tests the UAC did are anything to go by (and despite what Mr. Hashimoto said, the UAC did not, in fact, use a laser against the suit, otherwise it would be ruined before Doomguy got to wear it. I can not imagine where he got that from). >[Space Marine's] are largely expendable No. Besides a scant few stories, Space Marine casualties never exceed a dozen, and very rarely reach that number. Hell, they haven't been expendable since the Codex Astartes went into print. >while Doomguy is the main protagonist/hero that fights hell and succeeds in the lore and that's why he has to have plot armor Like Space Marines aren't the main protagonists of their own stories? Like there even _is_ a coherent, overarching story in 40k with clear, definable actors and a protagonist who you can pit against Doom Slayer? Because there sure as Hell isn't, and even if you tried the closest you'd get is the gods of bullfuckery or God-Emperor Trump. You're being arbitrary about what qualifies a character to be pitted against another in meta-fictional death battles, when in fact anything goes: be it GM's against Gunbuster, Doctor Doom vs Doomguy or even a Ceph grunt facing a whole Space Marine company. >WH40K got it's own rules and beings, Doom has it's own, both are cool, leave it at that. You severely underestimate the powers of autistic power scaling, and even so that's not a suitable argument as to why the two shouldn't be compared. That's like saying we shouldn't compare Dragon Ball to Naruto because the average Dragon Ball character can destroy planets on their own, on a whim, no questions asked, while the most Naruto has done is blow up a mountain.
I would imagine the Doomslayer would eventually overthrow the Imperium and become the new Emperor of Mankind. Only demons can hurt the Doomslayer thanks to the Praetor armor which also heals him the more demons he kills. I don't think anyone of the Imperium's legions could stand up against the Slayer's vengeful wrath against the heretical Emperor: who he sees as a corrupted and false God.
Lol I like how the Slayer wins even after some key problems with his analysis. Had his analysis been totally accurate, the fight would have twice as fast.
Doomslayer is at least Sanguinius level, he took out his universes equiv of a titan in close quarters combat. And his universes equiv of a titan is actually a lot bigger than 40ks titans, which is saying something.
Err not at all Sanguinius' equivalent unless you have feats for him throwing hundreds of tonnes like cardboard and flying faster than the speed of sound and seeing laser move in slow motion
This is just difficult to say, sure he killed an being that is basicly the devil, but hell in Doom and Hell (warp) in 40k is very different. If you are going just by feats everyone has then no his not Sanguinius level. He can probably be at that level if a writer wrote him to be but his not at that level by any means because the demons in DOOM are not all that scary compared to Demons in 40k which by lore literally regenerates or can not be hurt by physcial/plasma weapons. Demons in doom are just another physical being that can bleed. I think we should not compare people, Doom guy is a bad ass in his universe, and space marines are bad asses in their universe.
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So the video you have pinned here has doom slayer dying in it which can not happen because in the secret lore (sadly it's been completely wiped from everything I could find) which states that he was blessed AND given a very sneaky feat that makes him be able to summon the full power of hell if he is in near state of death (with no 1 ups) of which he could destroy all of any space marines with ease then with that power (I think it was posted 14 days ago but the internet will not say it exists because it's meant to be a secret and was only up on a site which i can not name because it will get me in a shit ton of trouble that requires a master name and password to get into and do ask me how I got it)
Doom guy is doom slayer they just have different armor
Doom guy from the old games killed the most powerful demon in hell with just his bare hands
You should really read the Cannon of Doom rather than going by gameplay this is a No contest Doomslayer wins
Dude the doom slayer's armor is basically indestructible bolster shots and punches are not even going to scratch it
Couple of problems here.
1. The Praetor armor is proof against non hell attacks. When it was discovered by the UAC they used a laser with the heat of the sun to get a sample. Even after several hours of exposure there was not even a scratch. Also the Slayer launched himself with a railgun into the side of a building. He landed on his feet and not only was the armor unharmed but so was he.
2. The DOOM Slayer does not get stamina from demons. Demon energy gives him health, ammo, and further increases his strength. The Slayer has infinite stamina he does not require food, water, oxygen, or rest of any kind. When he fought the titan the fight lasted a decade.
3. To stop the Slayer, the demons collapsed a temple the sized of a city on top of him. This only STUNNED him. It lasted a few moments and was just long enough for them to cast a quick spell to rip him free of his armor and seal them both away. Had he been in full control the spell would not have worked.
4. Tactics are not lost on the Slayer. He simply prefers the quickest solution but can think outside the box when needed. He is a trained marine and he did learn from the Night Sentinels.
Majorkill, check this one here
also Doom Slayer killed a titan without his praetor suit and I am confident that Titans are way more powerful than Space Marines
I kinda want to see how Slayer killed it, that would be an epic battle... Come on Bethesda, make a short cinematic of their battle
@@blob643, simply the Slayer with a barebones sentinel suit (or butt naked if that got destroyed because time and fights), some weapons he collected, and he kept shooting, run n gun, when ammo was out, he just start a fist fight....
A decade later: Slayer won and was ripping the titan huge guts
When you get into the lore, the slayer's ability to absorb and devour the essence of demons to sustain and empower himself means he's similar to the alpha pariah; meaning he would present an existential threat to the ruinous powers themselves, for every demon he kills is a tiny piece of one of the dark gods.
@@blob643 naked super muscles dude fighting bigger naked red muscles dude with horns. That is what I want to watch.
'I use the metric system, because Iḿ not some degenerate.'
'Doom Slayer is six feet tall.'
Not sure the nationality of the narator, but in England, we use imperial for measurements to do with people (e.g. height, weight, waist measurements), and metric for literally everything else.
yep i was like, how much is 6 feet :S i know it something from 1.80 and 2.00 M
Bwahahahaha. Love it.
@FanTaz1986
6 ft. = 1.83 m iirc
Neion8 makes no sense, but that’s England for yuh
The Doom slayer would hate the imperium due to how they treat their citizens as disposable. You can see how angry he was at the UAC in DOOM 2016.
He'd probably go for chaos first and if that is ever permenantly dealt with he would come for the imperium's higher ups.
@@Usernamesdontmatter1 He would never deal with Chaos because the act of killing them only makes them stronger. I believe he is far more likely to fall victim to chaos, but be under the false idea that he is not corrupted.
@@NoName-fj3pi I mean the lore outright says the doomslayer is incorruptible. There are a few beings and even entire factions that are immune to the corruption of chaos. We also know that warp entities can be devoured or killed permenantly using the right kind of power, but be under the false idea that things are only bleak for anything but chaos. The ruinous powers aren't invincible.
Well , he would go for the Warp , yes , but I don't think he would exactly kill any human , he would more or less try to fix everything like he did in every Doom game.
If I'm being honest , Doomslayer would be able to kill Khorne's demons , no , I'm serious , whatever he slays , he becomes more powerful (as the effect of absolutely taking the souls of the ones he slays , and the power that the soul has/had , even demons are effected by this) , by the time Khorne gains power from all of the hatred across the world , Doomslayer would already be more powerful from killing those demons , and don't get me started on the fact that his powers can't be used against him , even if Doomslayer were to enter Warhammer 40k universe , nobody could take or use his power , even his anger , meaning Khorne wouldn't get more powerful as a result , even though that does sound like utter bullshit
@@djordjepopovic7568 Did you really read the doom lore? He gets more powerfull becouse his armor uses the hell/Argent energy left after the demons are dead (and the hell energy requires souls to be transformed so no, unless you can show proof that the suit can transform souls into energy it can not). The warp entities would not strenghen him becouse they have none of this energy. They are literally emotions, feelings and concepts materialized feeding of the emotions, feelings, concepts and beliefs.
"Has zero concept of tactics"
He was a trained marine before he became the doom slayer and was also trained as a night sentinel soldier. Yup, a twice trained soldier wouldn't have tactical knowledge, eh?
the only reason why Doom guy run and gun is because of his extreme buffs
pretty much super durable and super strength etc...
and It's easier than the demons just goes to him then he going to them
@@lag00n54 he does what he does because of the fact that the demons dont need any tactics to fight especially when you're the doomslayer who can tank anything they could throw at him
Wasnt that like, billions of years ago in doom loar
@@emiliianoportillo1311 Evidently, the concept of time and character growth, degradation, or development is lost on the Doom Slayer entirely. The consistency of his rage, and even growing strength of it over all that time just shows that he is both physically and mentally completely unaffected by time as a force of change. Entropy does not apply to the Doom Slayer.
@theamateuridiot "lacks the experience"
Doom 2016 confirms that the slayer has been around fighting in hell for eons and is unable to age due to the fact that 1. Hells time works different and 2. I'm pretty sure the divinity machine made him immortal
The Doom Slayer is perhaps the one “super solider” whose own canon gives him a cannon big enough to win
I mean, if we go by told qualities of a universes canon, a lot of games and sci fi series beat the IoM, if we go by actually competently written (mostly game series based) achievements, its still a ok chunk that beat marines. Doom marine/BJ2/the beast/Slayer is probably the most super soldier instead of "40k never understood how technology works and had too many bad displays of power compared to good in both books and games to account for it as a fluke instead of standard thus gets ripped a new one"
ANDELE3025 Id say if Halo during ancient times invaded 40k they would win. Forerunners, Precursors, Ancient Humanity, and THE FLOOD against Necrons, Old Ones, Eldar, Orks, and Chaos
@William Smith Depends on which version of the Forerunners. The ones described as gods that have no limitations within the realm of physics or the ones who can't stop space zombies. I hate how conflicting the tech is versus the evidence. (For reference I over simplified the flood to make a point. No matter how smart a grave mind is, it's limited by the pretty low power it's bioforms can display. If the Forerunners were as powerful as described this shouldn't have been a threat to them.)
@William Smith I know all of that. I know every single thing you just said. My point is that if the Forerunners were as powerful as the many claims even everything you just said would be pointless. There would be no consuming of biomass. No life would be absorbed because they could flip a switch or press a button that just annihilates them at an early stage of development. Maybe you don't even realize that simply saying nothing short of the halos can stop them is just repeating something that doesn't make any sense. Why? This is the biggest issue with Halo's lore. I've read dozens of the novels and it's a great setting and a lot of it is very well written, but every time they dig into the power of the forerunners it becomes space magic with no limits, except they still lost to a life form that has a slow build up time and physical limitations. Limitations the Forerunners are not supposed to have.
It's the same reason the didact was a bad villain in the new trilogy. If he was the incredible being he was described as he wouldn't have been beatable. Halo builds up things to such a degree that they become memes. But when it's time to use them in a story it falls apart because you can't tell a compelling story about a race with no limitations.
@William Smith you keep trying to explain this as if you're talking to someone who hasn't read the books. Our disagreement doesn't stem from my being ignorant on the lore. It stems from a common literary mistake that the halo universe suffers from terribly. You can't make the Forerunners out to be as powerful as you do and then have virtually anything be a threat. They can do anything imaginable... Well except build drones that are bullet proof or capable of stopping flood hybrid forms. It's just bad writing. Halo is at its best when it leaves the Forerunners mysterious. The less we know the less there is to pick apart.
"Has no concept of tactics..."
To be fair, he has been trained in two separate militiaries, although he probably doesn't use them against the demons since both of them lost to Hell...
The only tactic that works against hell is one of ferocity, speed and brutality. To kill with extreme prejudice while simply weaving among their innumerable hordes.
When you wield a Double Barreled Shotgun large enough that the real life equivalent is powerful enough to kill rhinoes and literally can't be wielded by hand without killing yourself, and then you always shoot both barrels at the same time (the force being enough to actually destroy your hands, in the hands of a normal person), the man who only wields what is essentially a slow-firing 50 caliber machine gun is a little bitch-tier in comparison.
Considering Doomguy wielded a normal DB Shotgun, shot both barrels and was also fast enough and strong enough that there was no backlash, AND THEN he got the Angel upgrade. An astartes in light power armor could probably do what he did before the Upgrade, but honestly, I've said this plenty.
Doom Slayer is as comparable to a normal Astartes is, as a Primarch is to an Astartes of a completely different chapter/legion. Aka not very for capability.
The weaponry he uses, more or less equates to far more versatile Devastator weaponry, and the guy is so strong that firing them doesn't slow him down and doesn't convey almost any recoil that affects aim.
Also the BFG is so powerful that the orbital cannon equivalent, is literally just an attachment that amplifies and focuses the BFG's already ridiculous power, and Hell itself fears it in his hands.
There probably isn't a weapon in 40K that compares to the BFG, where, in the right hands, Chaos itself shits a collective brick by the mere thought of it.
"Rip and tear until it is done" is really the only tactic Doomguy needs.
@@Slimurgical 950. Caliber*
also, don't forget that the Doom Slayer usually works on his own against overwhelming numbers. So tactics would (in his eyes) probably just be a waste of time
While the Astartes usually works in unison with other Astartes, so tactics are more vital
@@erwinhilgers5574 true ... plus is not like brutality is gonna make demons scared and flee either even the Baron of hell has no sense of self preservation so the Doom slayer just does whats gonna kill them faster , he doesn't strategies bcuz he doesn't need them
"Only the strongest weapon in the right spot can take down a space marine"
That's not what my dice say
so true it hurts.
*Laughs in TAU ranged combat*
I use my strongest one use weapon, and I rolled a one
@@etriuse4354 *LAV'S IN CHOPPA*
@@Lucifer04289 Oof. That's gotta hurt.
I'd like to point out that the UAC did stress tests in the Doomsayer's armor and they couldn't determine it's durability because literally nothing they could do to it did any damage.
This was Slayer vs a loyalist space marine, how much easier would he find a chaos space marine with all their warp corruption etc.?
No two CSM are alike. So it's hard to say. Depends on how the fickle ruinous powers feel.
Yup.. warp corruption can be a boon as much as a curse. For exemple plague marines have all that insane durability, but are rather sluggish compared to loyalist space marines, letting themselves get hit a lot more often than a normal marine would allow. The most gifted make anyone around them feel like they are moving in molasses as a way to further make up for it, but its not something the baseline plague marine has access to.
Overall though, what chaos marines gain in raw power, they tend to lose in sanity, tactics and the quality of their teamwork
Well I'd say it would probably be easier as the slayer might probably be resistant to their daemonic weapons
@@BrotherCairus that's another interesting point to add in, plaguemarines may count as demons and heal DG when he kills them, plague bearers definitely will.
@@thorveim1174 A Plague Marine is basically just a Mancubus; Slayer might not notice their was anything different.
Warp Deities: Yo Big E , we have a human that kinda looks like a space marine thats causing all sorts of trouble for us, do you know this guy?
* Shows an image of DoomSlayer raping a greater demon with ease *
Emperor: I didnt made him but he feels like a son to me so imma call him my son now
I want a Doomslayer chapter based off of his geneseed
and i heard that in TTS
Big E:...So one of my sons got sent to another universe? I've got a whole legion of his boi's on ice for when I found him.
@@Triumph263 well that explainst the "lost" primarch
*shows pic
- PLOT TWIST -
The Emperor: ...Dad?
Lost me at “doom slayer takes cover”
BOI I PERSONALLY ALWAYS WHIP OUT DA BFG WHEN I SEE A NEW ENEMY
Unless the Doom Slayer has the BFG, there is no way he would survive the caliber of the Bolter for very long. This is coming from a massive doom fan. He gets ripped apart by demons without weapons, so I think a gun would kill him pretty fast. Im new to the Warhammer genre, but I think I have enough knowledge. Doom Slayer's armor is built to survive hell's weapons and plasma, not full on actual projectiles.
well, didnt doomslayer get turned into a god? and doesnt he actually getb stronger with each kill of a demon he does? i would think throwing him in the warp is a horrifying idea as its literally an xp farm for him lol. im not too well versed with 40k so dont take me too seriously, but isnt there a realm in 40k much like hell where it's whole point is constant slaughter for this one god? and wouldnt doomslayer eventually be able to kill said god due to the exponential curve of power increase from an infinite power source for him?
@@m3rasmus Most demon attacks use Argent which is the only thing that can breach his suit. Unless the marines start using Argent infused Bolter rounds they won't do shit.
@@m3rasmus He got shot out of a railgun into a reinforced wall of a building. That aint hell energy chief, that is pure physical damage we talk about. Its hard to judge, because you cant take a games simple difficulty mechanics that makes a game challenging as a test of durability on him or his armor. I doubt that a bolter would do much on his armor, maybe stagger him if he gets completely sprayed. Mind you, it took the demons to collapse a whole fucking city on his ass to merely stun him for just long enough to put a spell on him.
Before ancient gods: yep sure he will
After ancient gods: mate he would just punch this marine and the marine would die so hard that his entire legion and primarch would die from pure shockwave of this punch
LMAO but also true
Clearly the only way to defeat a Space Marine is to be God lol
@@Azuroth soldier who got a lucky shot in the eye of a space marine: Applaud my supreme power
@@leonardochagas9930 assuming it destroyed ALL of the brain matter. The Space Marine will just grow it back and keep going lol so OP.
@@Azuroth if i recal correctly he killed the space marine
It should be noted that dodging a BFG shot doesn't really work. At least not normally. Remember that the main projectile is only half of it, the plasma ball shoots out tendrils of Argent plasma at every enemy in line of sight of it. Meaning the only way to avoid a BFG shot is to take cover.
You need to stay out of LOS to the projectile, a marine's armor would give him a decent shot at realizing that in time to survive, but he'll be pretty cooked reguardless.
tHe SpAcE MaRiNe WoUlD dOdGe ThE DoOmSlAyErS BuLlEtS
Correct me if I'm wrong but if I remember correctly the tendrils only work against demons (because their connection toargent energy ).
@@tamasrehany6532
From what I recall it's effective for pretty much everything
IT REALLY DUCKS UP _anything with moisture basically_
*AND IT REALLY DUCKS UP DEMONS*
The BFG-9000's Plasma Tendrils seek out Argent Energy. Since a Space Marine's Armor doesn't use an Argent Power Source, they don't have to worry about the BFG's AOE.
However, the Core of Argent Plasma would still be effective if the Marine suffered a direct hit from the Doom Slayer.
>Doomslayer no concept of tactics
>Doomslayer targets enemy weakpoints, keeps weaker enemies to farm for HP, Armour and Ammo, and prioritises enemies such as the Archvile, Doom Hunter and Tyrant due to their high threat level.
Not to mention that he specifically assassinates the Hell Priests instead of slaughtering every demon on Earth one by one...
And thats still like kindergarden when compared to the thoughtprocess of an Astartes before he even enters battle.
A spacemarine doesnt even need to think about which target to chose. This is programmed into his brain while he even becomes a Spacemarine.
@@Simon-iw5ts But how do you know that the Slayer is any different? He never lost a battle in his life, unlike many Astartes...
@@Simon-iw5ts I never said the Slayer > Space marine.
I just debunked the whole Slayer no use tatics bullshit. Calm your tits.
Well doom slayer is weaker in close quarter combat, He’s just fast and blessed with the strength to punch demons face in.. but not a lot of physical strength in terms of how much damage he can take, so take away his guns, disable his legs somehow, boom dead, and I love doom slayer but he’s pretty weak if demons had actual tactics
The Doomslayer is actually nerfed in the gameplay though, the berserk powerup does the lore justice
True, but gameplay should be treated as the true lore and is why halo is in fact filled with pussies that would die to half a zerg swarm (or any drop thats more than 4m).
The lore codex and cutscenes Makes him the GOAT .
@@ANDELE3025 no it shouldn't, lore is lore, gameplay is a representation of it within the limits of game balance and realizability
@@ed8212 Nope and that second line only is limited to pvp games. Pve games gameplay (which is in fact both the vast majority of 40k games and the doom series but also most other games often brought up to 40k comparisons, as pve and pvp balance is usually quite vastly different) is the closest accurate non-subject to subjectivity representation of a universes possible feats.
@@ed8212 Most of the Doom lore was created as an afterthought to the game by an external writer. As such the two can be quite inconsistent.
This is so wrong in so many levels.
As a Warhammer fan i can easily say Doomslayer would absolutely demolish any Space Marine with his bare fists alone, while being completely naked.
Fun fact: Doomslayer uses guns because he thinks they are fun and not because he actually needs them.
Yes Space Marines are awesome and extremely potent in their own rights, but they are not on the same level as an being, that rivals deities.
Doomslayer literally killed the Devil/God of his universe and fucked hell by himself.
So what makes people think, that an mere Astartes could even remotely pose a threat to this guy.
You would need the top dogs of the Warhammer Universe, like the Primarchs to even give this guy a proper battle, let alone kill him.
Even Khorne would probaly start sweating, when Doomslayer enters the throne room, while the Emperor would jerk off like crazy to the massarce of the Deamons of the Warp, that the Doomslayer starts by himself.
I think he was talking about the gameplay Slayer and not the lore Slayer
that last statement had me on the floor my guy. top tier
plus in Doom 2016 it is said that no Human Weapon which would probably mean stuff a lot stronger than a Bolter can harm the praetor suit
I swear Doom slayer is just a alternative version of the emperor
Hate to admit it but yes Doom Slayercan easily take down a space marine even few with just his blade and bare hands. Seen too many space marines die easily in the hands of ordinary enemies. Have seen space marines died from single shot and stab. Even the primarchs don't stand a chance. Just compare the enemies they fought and killed, you get the idea.
Realistically he'd team up with them to kill demon ass but all and all both put up a fair fight
Nahh hes got demon armor on so they'd probs want to kill him
Wouldn't that depend on which chapter he encounters?
He‘d better watch his stuff if he encounters the blood raven
The Blood Ravens don't have the balls to claim the Praetor Suit.
Some Random Dude Well to be fair the Blood Ravens like every other space marine and genetically and biologically augmented super soldier in the imperium besides the Sisters of Battle are castrated with no ball or stick. Also Please put a r/whoosh in your reply to me.
"He has zero concept of tactics". That's not true whatsoever.
He has two actually that he employs quite frequently
1. Rip
2. Tear
@@epicty3607, or if he's feeling more sadistic and black humoured: let enemy catch punch, deploy wrist blade
@AwwwhYyyyeah These demons that teleport. The demons that float. Just the ones that come to mind now.
@AwwwhYyyyeah Totems that increases demons' strength and speed, demons that can summon demons until death, demons made specifically to kill the slayer and demons that were once part of the same warrior faction he was a part of.
Yeah no. Shoot gun, shoot bigger gun, and shoot gun more, do not count as tactics. Doomslayer has NEVER been shown to display any tactical ability at all. Hes just a berserker running to the nearest thing to kill and pulls the trigger until it stops that whole breathing thing.
Fun Fact: When the doomslayer takes damage in games, it is cannon that that is only a feature to balance the game, as the doomslayer is literally unkillable.
That is stupid
@@thekrampuselbananoquevivee9947 so vulkans stupid? How about saint Celestine? Literally every daemon?
@@hibikiverney4146 no, only the "doom slayer" is stupid, all of these make sense in the context of Warhammer 40k
@@thekrampuselbananoquevivee9947 figured you say that. Typical warhammer fanboy
@@thekrampuselbananoquevivee9947 Nah, it makes sense within his lore if you give a read through. Game wouldn't be fun if you just couldn't die and one shot everything simply letting a fart rip.
I remember hearing that the slayer can one shot most demons with his bare hands and he uses guns to nerf himself... Mainly so they die as slowly and as
painfully as possible. he a THICC BOI!!
yea he could basicly just punch his way through Hell but doing it with Guns is just more Fun and gives Demons mor Pain and Agony.....also more ways to Kill them......
Nerfing himself with guns a myth probably made up by a TH-camr.
Doom Slayer thinks in practical terms and wants the demons dead as quickly and as efficiently as possible, it wouldn’t make sense for him to have fun when he doesn’t care.
In a developer stream, they stated “YES” to Doom Slayer powering up his firearms in a similar way to the quad damage. Or think of how Dante from Devil May Cry puts energy into his guns. It’s like that.
@@CollegeBallYouknow It's not. The slayer likes guns because he was a marine stationed on Mars who's training revolved around using weapons, like real life marines. After his run through hell and hell on earth, he landed in an alternate universe and was with the night sentinels who used a variety of weapons and mostly unarmed combat. It's stated several times by the lore books, in game archives and even developers that the slayer uses guns only because he likes them. The in game berserker buff where you lose your guns and glory kill 1 shot every demon with your melee attack has been stated by devs to be how strong Canon doom slayer would be, literally bare handedly 1 shotting demons that take several clips and explosives to the face to kill.
@@CollegeBallYouknow that not exactly true, look at when we uses the rage power up. He one shots ANY demon he sees. Even barons of hell, which are a a lot stronger than bloodletters imo. I mean a blood letter is like 8 feet tall and kind of scrawny, when a Baron of hell is 15ish feet and made of pure muscle and hatred. And honestly, their weapons are pretty equal in power. The machine gun fires .50 bmg rounds at a fast pace, while bolters fire slower but bigger rounds. However, the doom slayer has a whole arsenal at his disposal. Hell, he has a ballista which punches through demons like butter. He has a galling gun which turns into 3 massive guns which can mow through anything. And if warp spaghetti works like Argent, than the BMG should be able to one shot almost anything
@@CollegeBallYouknow wrong it was stated that yes he only used guns cause its more fun for him. in lore he literaly killed a Titant for comparaison one titant could take down a city by himself. And he did that naked and without armor so yes gun is literaly a cap limiter to himself.
Point two is pretty much point 1. the guy is stuck in a real where TIME is not even a thing for billions of BILLIONS of year he has fought the forces of hell and nearly brought extinction to them.
its a game they have to make it fun that he core basic of the doom games you have guns = you have funs. It would be a shit game if it was just berserk power boost active all the time.
i think we are forgetting the fact that the doomslayer is confirmed to be doomguy from the classic games (and doom64) which now means he also has
- served a good few years as his worlds equivalent of the imperial guard before beating his commanding officer to death
- stopped hell on earth without his super powers
- killed the icon of sin without his crucible blade
- survived the plutonia experiment (archvile hell)
- and killed the mother of all demons, twice
it's fair to say he has experienced more shit in a far shorter timespan than the average space marine
Then with his career as Slayer and his time fighting the forces of hell, he has an untold amount of time with endless conflict and fighting. He has far more experience than possibly any space marine.
the thing with hell is that it has some wonky space time physics so he could of been in there for a few hours before being spat out into sentinel prime (as implied in doom64) when he could been fighting for an actual eternity in our time
You realize that this shit is a space marines wednesday?
Space marines fight literally bio ship fleets of tyranids that are mistaken for nebulas, weebs with plasma weapons that put a giant hole in the ground when they shoot from 20 miles away, chaos legions which are basically themselves but usually stronger and in larger numbers in certain areas
@The New Soviet Union And yet, I highly doubt any Space Marine fought a 100 story demon while naked with makeshift weapons and not beefed up with their Space Marine modifications ALONE like Slayer did.
astartes: no you cant just cut ceramite with your crucible energy blade
doomslayer: hahaha sword go zoom zoom
Underrated comment
@Julian Hasan
Astartes aren't the grandsons of a god. At the time they were created, prior to the Emperor's internment on the Golden Throne, he was an extremely powerful Psyker perpetual but he was very much so still human. Thus Astartes are completely mortal, just very heavily augmented super soldiers.
However, the Divinity Machine, as its name implies, actually made the Doomslayer Divinity. In other words a deity or a god. So, even if the Astartes WERE the grandsons of a god that wouldn't mean _shit_ to the Doomslayer since he actually _is_ a god and is not just distantly related to one.
Doomslayer: My guns go pew pew
Astartes: But my bolter goes boom boom
@@earlgrey2130
Doom Slayer: But my BFG goes Brrr-BOOM *blasts hole to core of Mars*
@@noneofyourbusiness2437 But then it wouldn't be a reference to Big L - Put it on.
*Demons and Daemons chuckle* "We're in danger."
except Hell's Demons are total cat piss compared to Chaos deamons...
@@Mugthraka True. In that train of thought. Couldn't a high tier Chaos Daemon just go and kill/overpower the Angel that supposedly blessed Doomslayer, depriving him of his powers?
@@Prince__Teclis DBZ power levels is not how Chaos works, it's not how any of the warp-fuckery works. They are Chaos, not Orks.
@@khai96x I mean through Chaos' crazy reality warping and breaking. Daemon goes back in time and space, slays angel. Doomguy never gets blessed.
@@Prince__Teclis They didn't use their time travel abilities stop the Emperor from being born, so I guess it's not that simple.
Bolter rounds damaging the Praetor Suit is one of the most hilariously unrealistic things I've heard in a while.
He survived Vega's core. Orbital bombardment would not scratch the paint
According to gameplay?
No, or it would be an extremely close call.
According to lore?
Oh yes, absolutely.
According to gameplay, Doomslayer/BJ would rip marines like butter. Mostly because the best 40k game is a sadly now aborted mushroomstomper baby clone of what doom has evolved into (but also because doom along with nukem are the papas of the most notable genre 40k is in other than strategy).
@@ANDELE3025 Given that space marines have guns with grenades for bullets and fire as fast as a machine gun, the only way doom guy would win would be by plot armor or gameplay shenanigans not actual firepower
@@mnmlogic You didnt play Doom did you? That is not even in top 5 weapons Doom slayer would use
@@1ElNinho1 There is no rapid fire grenade launcher with Infinite ammo in any doom,closest you got is the heavy cannon and maybe the plasma gun, bfg only has 2 shots and is a plot weapon, that's like sending a terminator marine and calling it a day, yeah I don't think you know the scope of wh40k either, doom demons are like pets for the demons of wh40k
@@mnmlogic There is no way the astartes would get through the slayers armor though, nothing can harm it (according to lore) musch less a combat knife
Fuck it.... I'm getting the fight between the Marine and Doom slayer animated
Rip my bank account
Yes yes yes yes god speed you magnificent bastard
Rip and tear till your bank account is no more?
Where do we go to help pay for it?
I’m sorry everyone is fighting over this. Honestly with these characters it just comes down to opinion and point of view
@@jasoncustomizer56 Patreon
This is dumb. Clearly Doomslayer is one of the two lost Primarchs.
The other being Sigmar
Can confirm.
Totally a lost primarch
He would look totally badass leading the legion of the damned
He's the primarch of the angry marines.
"we aren't using Doom Guy, he would die instantly"
*Nerfs Doom Slayer to Doom Guy levels and still wins*
fucking lold
shows that biased cant compete with based
Well, no, it will be different you most, you read the story and the doom lore again
Doomslayer is a dangerous character i mean he is very strong against demon
He'd still win, yeah, but at least the space marine now has a small chance haha
Imagine killing the unkillable titan and being compared to people lesser than you.
@Shadow Ninja Hundreds of dead knight sentinels: "Are we a joke to you?"
Sealed, that is one, and with only weapon that can do so is two.
Yh he's definitely stronger than a titan but can't kill one since they regenerate indefinitely
2 were technically sealed , the Icon Of Sin and the Titan on Taras Nabad , though still dead.
One he killed , the Champion Titan , while in Hell , before he got the Praetor Suit and after he had to leave the Crucible. And lets not forget that he made all of Hell scared shitless , a living dimension that casually takes over other dimensions was scared shitless.
@@JohnDJ08 you obviously don’t know doom lore so let me fill you in. the doom slayer is a primevil, a creation of god who has been around since the dawn of time. the seraphim then bestowed even greater power unto him through use of the divinity machine. he can literally consume dimensions and destroy the multiverse and all of creation if he wanted to. he’s eternal, immortal, unstoppable. the only reason he couldn’t kill the titans is because the titans are also immortal. sealing them is the only option. also he does NOT need argent energy in any capacity to thrive. argent energy is more of a game mechanic than anything else, used to upgrade the slayers suit in doom 2016. it’s not about him “beating the standard space marine”. you could throw 1,000 astartes at him it’s not going to matter. the hell energy used by demons is hotter than the surface of the sun and it bounces off of the doom slayer. that’s not a being warhammer 40k can compete with.
*Doom slayer appears in the Eye of Terror*
Imperium at large: "Ha ha! You guys are so screwed now!!!"
The Chaos Horde/WH40K Demons: NOOO YOU CANT JUST SUMMON SOME DUDE AND WIN!!!
The Imperium of Man:HAHAHAH DOOMSLAYER GO RAGE-MODE!!
the more likely outcome of this whole ordeal tbh saint doomslayer the lost primarch of the angry marines
@@aTastyHaggis The XXIst Primarch? That makes sense!
With all his rage Doomslayer would get lost in all the ripping and tearing and after a while he'd forget what he's fighting for and who friend and foe is. He'd end up a minor amusement for the chaos gods. Another champion spilling blood for all eternity in the great game between them. And i think Khorne would claim him to be his champion before the other gods.
@@earlgrey2130 kaldor draigo intensifies
Also Doomguy wouldn't attack a human, unless the human deserved it.
He's human after all
Yes becuase humans don't kill humans. Flawless logic.
@@gabzsy4924 Well, Doomslayer is pretty much just out for revenge, if you don’t know, by the Lore, the reason the doom guy/slayer is killing the demons, is because they killed his pet rabbit Daisy. This man got so angry that he became immortal just because his pet Rabbit died, something else to note, the DOOM games and Wolfenstein games take place in the same time lines, specifically DOOM 3 I know for sure, but this basically means Doom Guy/Slayer had a family member who fought and killed all kinds of Nazis. So knowing this, he does have a military background for sure, and odds are he’d kill a human only if they deserve it.
@@gabzsy4924 But you do have a point, Humans can’t stop killing each other, we’re a species that can’t ever truly unite, there’s something Cortana says in Halo legends, I adopted this logic: War is like a virus, one that’s infected all of humanity. So long as the Human race exists war will always be a possibility, it could happen at any time, without warning.
I’m sorry about getting political here, but it’s about time someone said some shit that I feel like we are ignoring. . . Trump, somehow, was closer to unifying the planet then anyone except a certain person (Better know his name by my reference.) who goes nuke happy in Civilization due to a bug when he chooses democracy, I was born in 2002. . . Even still I know that for a fact, even before I was born long there was always a war going on, sure World War One ended, but right after world war 2 started, sure it ended, but right after, the Cold War, after that, Vietnam, and so on. . . All I’ve ever known within my life span is war. . . It was one of the things that was included in the “Death, taxes, and (Insert thing here) are always certain in life” jokes for me. But once Trump came, I didn’t hear about any wars starting, infact wars had started to end, countries like North Korea who were constantly testing nukes and threatening to blow up people stopped with the threats, there was more peace then ever, and how did the Democrats react? They called Trump Hitler, they said “He’s gonna start world war 3!” They did everything they could to get him out of office. . . And all the while my family who under the Democrats rule, we were constantly moving in and out of houses, before being forced to live with my grandmother, things were hard, when Trump came in prices on things started to drop, we could actually afford things, things seemed great, but. . . Then the pandemic hit, Trump had done so much good, only for him to be forced to be put the country on lock down, did this stop him from trying to still help the country? No. Instead he said “Anyone capable of it, work on a cure, who ever can make a working vaccine first, I’ll pay you how ever much you want, just get the vaccine made ASAP.” He was having companies with the parts for ventilators who weren’t making money, he told them to start making ventilators and he’d pay them in return, just start mass producing them, he had even sent a naval vessel to New York to act as a extra hospital for COVID patients. . . But what do the democrats do? Do they unite, and try to help him? No. Of course not, he’s Republican, he’s views don’t align with what they want. They fought him every step of the way, tried to prevent him from getting anything done, they did it ever since he was elected, and the riots? He had so much thrown at him at once, he had to deal with the virus, deal with the riots, he was getting harassed by democrats 24/7, and he still kept trying to serve the people, not the government, not himself, but the citizens. He even made sure that the children at the border, he made sure they’d be taught, kept safe, fed, and eventually reunited with they’re parents, all while this was happening, and when he got infected by the virus what did he do? He refused to show weakness, instead of taking advice to get himself treated, he stood strong, to ensure the country remained safe, how did democrats respond when they learned he was infected? “Good I hope he dies!” That was one of the many democrats who hoped he would die. And yet Trump survived. . . But he didn’t get re-elected. Biden has, and already, prices have risen again, 2 wars have already started again, one of which Biden’s considered getting us involved in against Russia, and Chinas threaten to invade Taiwan, Japan coming to Taiwan’s defense. . . What are the democrats saying? Nothing, they’re praising Biden! Just goes to show how bad things are in life at times. And how we won’t ever be united as a species.
I doubt my I already rather lengthy reply will show, but if it does, once again, sorry for getting political, just had to say it.
There's lore that says the Doomslayer spent "eons" in hell fighting demons without eat, sleep, or repairs. I know there are some Primarchs with similar energy, but they couldn't single handedly storm a chaos-god's dimension, kick in the door and split their skull with one hand.
The way he's written, he could probably rip the Emperor out of the throne, take his seat and will himself into permanently closing the Eye and sorting the webway.
His level is like grey knight-primarch
@@mansoloraphyblacktemplar5908 I like to think of the Doomslayer as an extinction level entity.
@@coopers1716 more like thething who get rid of the extinction
Emperor would send him to Slaneesh right away
Yeah, those comparisons are kinda stupid because Doom Slayer is pretty much a god tier entity so it's more about the rules of the given universe and how it works and not personal powerlevel of X character. It's the would doom slayer be as powerful in WH40k universe as he is in DOOM universe because if yes then he would likely be the most powerful entity there.
Majorkill: So I'll be covering doomsayers weakness
Me: So you have chosen death
Majorkill : Gonna nerf Doomslayer
Me : Dont do it Majorkill
Me: Zawarudo!!!!!!!!!!
Me:....................3 seconds have past.
@@blazermettro2059 I erased time and leapt past it
Doom sayer 🤔
He has no weakness
According to DOOM: Eternal, Doomyguy is pretty much a demigod. He’s killed lords of hell, “angels”, and so on with his bare hands. Basically the equivalent of killing a greater daemon. Not to mention that Doomguy’s Slayer armor is supposed to be borderline impenetrable, as it’s forged from sort of magical shit. I honestly think Doomguy could kick the shit out of a normal Astartes with ease.
Doom guy would lose to a naked space marine.
@@K4inan nope
@@K4inan incorrect
@@ls200076 correct.
@@BaldyAngry yep.
Just for context, I originally posted this comment as a reply to another comment, but I thought it would be worth posting as its own comment so more people would see it since there seems to be a LOT of people who are SEVERELY underestimating just how unbelievably dangerous the Doom Slayer really is.
He survived Vega's core exploding which opened a portal to Hell and was a far bigger and more powerful explosion. From what I understand, those grenades do something similar but instead of sending you to Hell they send you to the Warp. He would shrug that off like nothing and be pissed that he was suddenly somewhere else without any prior warning.
Also, cannonically speaking he is unkillable and his armor is indestructible. The first bit of evidence for his armor is that the UAC used a laser as hot as the sun on it for hours but it was completely unharmed. The second bit of evidence for not just his armor but himself as well is the fact that in Doom Eternal, he literally shoots himself out of a rail gun (meaning a LOT faster then a standard bullet) through space (meaning there was little to no atmosphere to slow him down in any way shape or form) and punched through the side of a ship and both he and his armor were in perfect condition.
I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure that neither a Space Marine nor their armor could survive being shot out of a rail gun and into the side of a ship without taking quite a bit of damage.
As for the Doomslayer himself well...
I have already said this as a reply to another reply on a different comment on this video but I'll copy and paste it here.
Two words: Divinity machine.
Now, with those two words out of the way, let me explain exactly what they mean and why they are relevant. As its name would imply, that machine granted him divinity. That means that he is either a God, assuming it made him fully divine, or a Demigod, assuming it made him only half divine. Certain things seem to imply that he's a full on God rather than a demigod, but I'll get to that later. Either way, he's effectively immortal and his armor is effectively indestructible.
However, that doesn't mean he's invincible. He has been "beaten" before, when he had a massive temple dropped on his head stunning him long enough that the demons could strip him of his armor and throw him into a cursed sarcophagus.
Another thing to note is that when his sarcophagus was opened up by the UAC in Doom 2016, he did not wake up immediately. He was still unconscious or in stasis for at _least_ a few seconds before waking up and immediately breaking the chains that were binding him to his sarcophagus. Otherwise at the very beginning of Doom (2016) we would have watched a cutscene starting with the lid of the sarcophagus being opened rather then him waking up with it already open.
As such, the demons would have had time to open the sarcophagus and unleash a massive attack in an attempt to destroy him before he actually woke up. The fact that they COULD NOT kill him despite having him trapped in that sarcophagus goes to show how far his immortality extends. If they could have killed him then they sure as "Hell" would have, but they didn't which is highly indicative of the fact that they literally _couldn't_ kill him no matter what they threw at him.
Another thing to note is that there are apparently actual _Gods_ of Hell, meaning that even literal Gods were completely incapable of killing him, suggesting that the Divinity Machine probably made him quite a bit more then _just_ a demigod, thus implying that he himself is a full on God who is at bare _minimum_ on par with the Dark Gods of Hell. Plus, in Doom Eternal apparently people start worshiping him as a God and form a religion of sorts dedicated to him.
This all means that while he very much so _can_ be defeated, he very much so can not be killed.
Also, to the idiots saying that either he or his armor can be damaged by Argent Energy, just stop. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. It's very clearly stated in the Codex that his armor *ABSORBES* Argent Energy to empower the Slayer even further, not that it is damaged by it! The Praetor Suit being damaged by Argent Energy would be completely contradictory according to the canonical ability to *ABSORBE* it! Throwing Argent Energy at the Doom Slayer would just make him stronger not hurt him! Stop being stupid!
Furthermore the same could be said about psykers and their abilities. This is because Argent Energy is essentially just people's souls and in W40k people's souls are made up of Warp energy which is what Psykers use for pretty much everything. As such Argent Energy and Warp Energy are effectively direct equivalents to eachother, meaning that the Praetor Suit would absorb the Warp Energy of any abilities a psyker could ever use on him just like it absorbs Argent Energy. Thus Psyker abilities would just make him stronger due to his and his armor's canonical abilities! Thus he is immune to psykers!
Cannonically it is also DIRECTLY STATED in the Slayer Testaments that he's also completely *incorruptible* so no he would never fall to Khorn, Nurgal, Slaneesh, nor Tzeentch either!
Furthermore, in Doom Eternal it is directly stated that as it grows stronger the Icon of Sin becomes not just a planetary threat, nor is it even a galactic threat, but it is a *universal* threat, which is something that absolutely NOTHING in Warhammer 40k can match. Everything there is just Galactic level at worst. Not to mention the fact that there are litteral GODS of Hell that are supposed to be more powerful than the Icon of Sin but *STILL* couldn't kill the Doom Slayer when he was trapped unconscious in a fucking Sarcophagus for who the fuck knows how long!
Continuing on that note, while we don't fight the Icon at its maximum capabilities, I personally believe that it is safe to assume that it is at least somewhere around city to continental level during the boss fight. However, due to Doom Eternal's gameplay format ID Software probably couldn't accurately display its power without resorting to the Doom Slayer fighting it in a cutscene or something which would have sucked all the fun out of it, thus they nerfed it for gameplay reasons. Developers do the exact same crap in other games! In God of War for example, they sure as Hell don't portray Kratos or any of the other Gods in a way that is accurate to their cannon abilities, so don't give me _any_ crap about grasping at straws or making excuses.
Either way, cannonically speaking in the lore, while he may not have any magical powers that we know of, the Doom Slayer is an unkillable God who can fight skyscraper sized Titan demons with nothing but a sword, a shield, and his classic armor and not just win, but rip them to pieces, as we can clearly see from the Slayer Testaments and the Titan's corpse in Doom (2016)!
Oh, and let's not forget that the BFG 10,000 was the POWER SOURCE of the cannon that shot a hole straight through to the core of Mars, which we see firing off into space dozens of times before we actually reach it. That means it either contains or is capable of PRODUCING enough energy to blow holes into the cores of planets not just once but multiple times.
Since the BFG 10,000 is the POWER SOURCE the larger cannon is probably only needed to focus the energy produced by the BFG 10,000 so it doesn't actually destroy itself and whoever is using it whenever it fires at maximum capacity. As such, it's limited ammo in the game has to be just gameplay mechanics as it should be fully capable of shooting hundreds of millions of those little green spheres it fires AT BARE MINIMUM before it starts getting even close to running out of energy, meaning it effectively has unlimited ammo. Further more, a single direct hit from the projectile it fires should completely obliterate a Space Marine, and he should be able to fire who the fuck knows how many!
Tl;dr A single Space Marine would be completely destroyed in a fight against the Doom Slayer, and that's all there is to it. Period. End of fucking story.
Edit: Here's a link to the lore revealed in Doom Eternal's newest DLC as further evidence to back up my assertion that the gods from Doom are more powerful than anything from Warhammer 40k. doom.fandom.com/wiki/Codex/Book_Of_The_Seraphs
Edit: Here's a link to a video with clearer and just generally better arguments in favor of the Doom Slayer: th-cam.com/video/9VhnYFj2P-Yi/w-d-xo.html
Update: He's officially the strongest character in gaming. He killed Davoth who is multiversal to outerversal if not true infinite in terms of power. Plus word of the Devs confirms it. th-cam.com/video/dJ7ulqjS_Vg/w-d-xo.html
*Slow clap* Skulls for the Skull throne and Blood for the Blood god, Khorn would be pleased~
@@dragonslayerornstein387
Except Doom Slayer can't be corrupted, so Khorn would be just as pissed as usual.
@@noneofyourbusiness2437
Khorn would have a large fucking boner though.
This is some good shit, well done.
@ALSO-RAN !
Beaten to death?
Killed by Missiles?
He got fucking shot out into space using a fucking rail gun. And since nothing can stop momentum in space he might've gone faster than just a few machs. Not to mention that he smacked into concrete at those unimaginable speeds. He sticks his landing and shrugs off the dust, completely fine.
Argent Energy is literally 100x hotter than a sun. And Doomslayer's armor doesn't even budge when faced with such extreme temperature.
Bruh, have you even played or read up on doom? He killed a tower of a demon named the Titan by only using his Marine armor and a sword and shield. And that was before he got his Divination.
Gameplay slayer is extremely nerfed and saying that would an understatement.
He killed a titan that is IMMORTAL without being bless by an angel
Doomguy was extremely nerfed here, we all know that it would be over in an instant if the space marine heard the music.
He was nerfed because of cinematic purposes. Here's a few issues I've noted. Doom guy, despite his rage, does still have martial training, and while he may be immune to demonic weapons... It's also proven that he is highly resistant to normal firearms, considering the demonic marines that he has to kill not blowing his armor off. Those, were human firearms. And yet, little damage. Second, putting a space marine at "strongest strength" without considering their average cannon means giving them the plot armor some less popular writers wrote. Plot armor up the arse, in other words. The metal that makes up their armor is also, quite aptly, torn apart by their own weaponry. I'd figure that doom slayers arsenal, being both from a futuristic earth, and the BFG quite literally capable of reducing larger foes to splatter, as well as, well, hitting them behind cover as long as it can reach out by arc, would have hit just as hard as a boltor, rather than a god damn peashooter. simply removing the one hit wonder, the bfg, from the equation would actually balance the encounter. Another thing to note, is the Marine holding up against strikes four times his own theoretical maximum strength. His arm would have been, well, fucked, much earlier from trading blows like that, and at most, a parry was possible. Not to mention the quality of power swords versus a crucible. The later, having slayed creatures that make arch angels worry. The former, sometimes failing to hurt one infernal boi. Sure, the former has more charge, but considering its output, it's safe to say the higher density weapon would cleave through it like butter pretty aptly. And as much as I love the bait that the marine pulled... When did that ever happen in warhammer? For the 'genius level intellect' of the marines, they hardly ever seem to use strategy... Especially in singular combat. Cover, sure, but that is hardly genius in streagem or planning. Not to mention, explosions would make quick work of cover. Making the concept of a marine taking cover well... Pointless. As an added note, how the hell do you 'dodge' something you can see whilst behind cover? You can argue he looked over, be you never aim the BFG directly at anything anywho. The marine would assume the guy missed. But, I digress, this is an internet debate, and I'm getting dick hurt over this.
@@synsastral2753 "human firearms" as if that would make them less effective *laughs in .75 calibre rocket propelled rounds*
@@MarshallConway
*laughs in shot himself out of a rail gun through space into the side of a ship and neither he nor his armor were even so much as scratched*
Bolters wouldn't do shit to him.
@@noneofyourbusiness2437 Duuude I cannot stress how many times I've seen people write about the Doom Slayer not being that durable but then forgetting this one lil' feat that proves them all dirt wrong. Not to mention that he also ate up the blast of Vega's explosion in Doom 2016 which was more powerful than 170 suns
@@damienmccuinn1956 it's not just the suit, it's also the power the seraphim gave him. The Khan Makyr specifically addressed him as "you, once a mortal", clearly stating in no uncertain terms that he isn't one any longer. Of course, immortal doesn't necessarily mean invulnerable, but he has proven time and again that he's able to take a hell of a lot of punishment and shrug it off like it's nothing. The demons couldn't even kill him without his armour.
Frankly, the Doom slayer is ridiculously strong and tough, as well as a fully trained marine, and then trained all over again by the night sentinels (the thing about him having no tactics is ridiculous). Are there things that can match him in the 40k universe? Obviously. But not one standard space marine. Mind you, the entire fight's a huge stretch anyway since the Doom slayer isn't hostile to humans and isn't stupid enough not to recognise one. They'd charge at the daemons of the warp side by side and rip and tear like the bosses they are.
Considering he killed a titan BEFORE he got divine powers and armor and pretty much uses gun for sport only (berserk power up)
Ya he could
We have no idea when he killed the titan or how
The_Drop Bear that red sword can kill and someone do this before (i don't remember name)
No I think that was shortly after he got his powers
See, this one is a bit confusing. Because there's TWO dead titans, apparently killed by him--one in Titan's Realm in 2016, and the other in Taras Nabad in Eternal. The codex entries make it seem like they're supposed to be the same one, but that's unsure.The one in Taras Nabad was definitely killed AFTER he got his powers from the Seraphim, the Titan appearing being the very reason the Seraphim used such a desperate measure.
The Slayer Testament in 2016 MIGHT line up to the story in Eternal, but it also might be another one. It's entirely possible that the Slayer killed another titan before he arrived in Argent D'Nur, or after being betrayed and trapped in Hell by the Deag Priests.
@@spamhere1123 Actually there is several titans, some killed by mechs, be it on earth or elsewhere, the blade puts them on a stasis of sorts
The titan realm titan is stronger and bigger than normal titans and got killed the old fashion way as he rotted away
Two of my favourite franchises by one of my favourite TH-camr’s....
*200% ERECT*
That's some extreme warp fuckery right there.
Is this some Dark Eldar Debauchery I've seen, *Heresy!!!!!*
circle jerk
“Doomslayer is *6 foot and weighs 81 kilos* ”
What is this measurement heresy?!
It's likely from Quake 3's stats on him. In the Ancient gods he's like a full head above the average male so 6'6 +.
Doesn't this guy curb stomp demon heads? 81kilos? Tf?
@@abhaybhuvanendra9697 As of the most recent carachter description he is 6'8" (207 cm/ 2,07 m) and 360 lbs (163 kg)
@@tyberostheredwake6153 God damn that's a thick boi
@@tyberostheredwake6153 Talk about Hack-A-Shaq, jesus fucking christ...
In lore, Astartes recognize their brothers and Primarchs instantly. So what would really happen would be the Marine would recognize the lost Primarch that is the Slayer and they would go on an epic road trip through the Warp killing everything in their way.
We need a buddy cop movie of the Doomslayer and an Astartes commiting demonic genocide with their bare hands while learning the value of friendship.
In all honesty? Yes, most likely.
No heretic will be left standing.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: *Y E S*
Thanks chief
"The Astarte plunges the broken sword deep into the Slayer's neck."
...and that's when he got mad(...er)
If a laser many many times hotter than the sun can't pierce the Slayer's armor then I doubt that a broken sword will
Doom Slayer just gets pissed and crunches stupid space Marine armor into a crumpled ball
@@omnipotentazathoth5215 Then he drop kicks the foot-ball shaped astartes across the room through the wall
I wanna see an animation like that come true
@@frostbite5081 you sir subscriber
I`m sorry but that can`t happen without severing his head... :| we are not talking about a human scaled sword, we are talking about a Space Marine sword.
This isn’t even a competition, 10/10 times the doom slayer would beat waaayyyy more than 1 space marine
He might be able to rip and tear through a whole chapter while heavy metal is playing
he could honestly kill all space marines in the galaxy
He could actually destroy the emperors presence within the warp and all four chaos gods. He's so overpowered that he even puts mui goku to shame.
Hypothetically if Doom Slayer suddenly just teleported into 40K universe, he could channel all Chaos god simultaneously without being corrupted at all. In 40K universe Doom Slayer would be potentially even stronger than in his own universe due to all of the death across the setting.
Mortal weapons can't even hurt him, so he could easily just drop down to Holy Terra, walk the hallways of the Imperial Palace while pimp slapping the Custodes from his way to the Golden throne where he would toss the emperor to the corner and take a seat.
I think that if there is anything that we can takeaway from this is that the Lore version of the Slayer is way, WAY, more powerful than the Slayer we see in game and more people need to realize that.
The in game Slayer is op, you just have to be as good as Zero Master to see it.
Thank you someone else realized that
Doom guy canonically plays on easy mode
Doom Slayer Is the PRIMARCH for the Angry Marines after all
Doom Slayer, Primarch of the XIth Legion "Angry Marines"
Legend says that he has been lost in the Warp since the early days of the Great Crusade.
True beyond PRIMARCH
top call man \m/
I prefer the Doom Marines chapter.
Implying that Doom Slayer is weak as the other primarch
*Amongst a hill of other dead sci-fi fantasy protagonists Warhammer 40k see the DooM Franchise...*
Warhammer 40K: "Ah a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary!"
DooM: "..."
Never before have there existed words that were more true than this...
As much as I love Majorkill he’s definitely not done enough research, DOOM Guy/Slayer is away more powerful more powerful than any Space marine, Primearch or even then Emperor himself. DOOM is a God DOOM is Eternal
@@sumarbrander3354 I'm sorry to tell you this but yes doom slayer is stronger then the emperor he is a multiveral threat while the emperor is galaxy threat AT BEST.
@@ammarbolden3020 BIG E should just assist him to the warp for doom slayers next round with the demons i hear khorne is starting to get bored again
I wouldn't say definitively stronger than the emperor. Maybe stronger than a primarch. The issue would really be if the win condition was killing. I don't think slayer could kill the emperor, but I don't think the emperor could kill the slayer either.
Doom Slayer has killed... The literal entity that created his entire multiverse, Big E would die in a single punch.
@@sumarbrander3354 i mean hes killed literal gods of his universe when the god emperor cant even take out galaxy threats he's way older than the emperor and hes fought armies of demons for eons straight
*Doomslayer sees a demon in the warp*
Doomslayer: *Loads shotgun with malicious gleeful intent*
Warp demon: Is that a new space mari... *shotgun blast noise*
That's about right...
Honestly: i think khorne would get defeated by Doomslayer. Afterall, he is a demonish being, and the Slayer has killed hell creatures of godlike power before(like Icon of sin. Twice.)
@@predator1704
Why would you even feed Khorne The God of HATRED , WAR , and DEATH a battery of unending rage , where every killed demon gives Khorne more power ? Your just giving Khorne another Tuska Daemon Killa but stronger and angrier which makes him stronger
@@hotwheelsmark maybe. But will he get fed fast enough to survive the slayer? And yes, i know that Khorne technically cant die.
@@predator1704
Every kill in anger empowers Khorne , so if Khorne gets more power , he can create more demons . DoomSlayer cant even get close to Khorne if that happens . The only way to kill Khorne is if he has a physical form and it would be done through 1 v 1 honorable combat but DoomSlayer needs to have somekind of powerup or superweapon. Khorne cant really die as long as War ,Death ,and Anger exist in the universe
Having previously learned about the abilities of the Astartes, it's safe to say that the doom slayer WILL crack an astartes like an egg
Almighty Genesis why would The Doomslayer fight an Astarte though? Like, last I checked, space marines weren’t demo- *looks over shoulder for chaos marines*
Well, depends on what chapter of Space Marine he will fighting. If its Ultramarine or Black Templar, then he will have a hard time fighting them. But he will get raped by primarch...
@@justanordinaryguy._.7399 currently I'd say he's equal to a primarch
@@crossfire4691 Maybe some of them. But not someone like Magnus, Vulkan, Horus/Papa Smurf or Agron.
@@justanordinaryguy._.7399 yh until we see how he fairs against the devil I'd say he's at lorgars power
Doom Eternal is actually perfect proof for how tactical of a mind Doom Slayer has. Use the heavy cannon to take out high-priority targets (mancubus, revenant, arachnotron cannons). Use the chainsaw on weaker enemies for a quick fuel up on ammo. Etc. Your active decision making out of game is his in game. He's far from the genius level tactical mind of an Astartes, but he's not a simple brute. He's an experienced fighter who knows exactly where and how to abuse his ridiculous strength to do the most damage. He doesn't use traditional battlefield tactics like cover and retreat because he's not built for that; he's built to sustain himself off the power of dead demons. Pure autistic roid rage is actually the best tactical choice for him most of the time.
Another good example is when he shoots a hole into mars. He just gets the information that he needs to get inside of mars and within a second he formulates the plan to use the BFG 10k to get there.
@@RandomPerson-yq1qk To be fair that's a pretty simple plan. "Need to crack the big rock. Where's the biggest boom at?"
@@pirateman1144 Lol
@@pirateman1144 That's against the codex.
You really think a space marine can hold his own against a guy who literally beat a Titan bigger than skyscraper to a pulp with his bare hands? Also, the space marine sword cannot parry the crucible, Doomguy can literally just slice through the space marine’s sword.
No and yes the sword of the space Marines are a funny Thing but the sword of the doom Slayer too so it could be possible that this could be a normal sword fight
But then Doom Slayer can lose to a scratch off an Imp!
Let's be honest.... he's a glass cannon. Roboute Guilliman went into the warp for centuries, and came back, as if nothing happened.
He'd one-shot Doomguy!
@@lonestar6709 Are you really comparing gameplay to lore?
@@lonestar6709 In gameplay maybe. In the lore The praetor suit was never penetrated even under test conditions. The reason why doom slayer makes these fights unfun if you take his lore context is he is in canon invincible. He's immortal and doesn't stop. These 1v1s are a pretty weighted scale when one side can't actually lose. I wouldn't say he's unstoppable, he's been stopped, but it took a fair bit of effort and coordination with a lot of demons and a bit of magic. Even then though it didn't kill him.
@@lonestar6709 The other guys already said it- but it's dumb to try to use the gameplay as your argument, after all, the Doom Slayer has to be weakened in the game or else the game wouldn't be challenging. After all, what type of challenge would the gameplay be if the enemies couldn't damage you?
Space marine: *sees the slayer approaching* the emperor is on our side
Meanwhile in the golden throne
Emperor: *RUN YOU FOOLS! RUN!*
This needs more likes
What's the TTS version of that?
@@John-Stark Emps: "What in the fuck, he is actually very cute, look at his old earth style armaments and armor and that demonic weapon, simply adorable, come to papa to tell you a good night story after you finish squishing the blueberries."
More like, how can we transfer this guy to the web way gate at the golden throne. So big E could focus all his powers on other stuff.
I think the TTS version would be more like this “FINALLY SOMETHING THAT CAN KILL THOSE BLUEBERRY UNKILLABLE THINGS!”
My original comment stated that slayer was a dangerous foe that could got toe to toe with the strongest space marines. But after *the ancient gods* DLC i have amended my comment. Slayer killed the literal actual creator of the universe who also created the slayer. 40k doesn't stand a chance in hell of surviving doomguy.
A guy who specializes in beating the shit out of larger armored creatures vs a large armored human
*you're speaking to one*
As someone who is only just getting into 40k I'm glad someone more experienced thinks this too.
I personally rate Doomguy as a Primarch equivalent in capabilities. The Titan feat especially feels about equivalent to things like Vulkan fighting the Beast or Sanguinius beating Kha'Bandha.
uwau true but Doom Guy is almost certainly a god in canon.
>*fair fight*
>*nerfs doom slayer to doomguy levels*
lmao.
*That moment when you realise that the doomslayer and doomguy are one in the same but one is in the future and the other in the past*
the ender destruction doom 2016 is a sequel to doom, doom 2, and doom 64 if you didn’t know. A friendly and well meant fyi
@@theenderdestruction2362
Doom Slayer is the Doom Guy, but shit has happened to him in the time since then that raises him fucking *light years* beyond anything he was capable of when he was still just the Doom Guy. The Doom Slayer is an invincible killing machine who is quite *LITERALLY* a god or at the very least a demigod, made as such by the Divinity Machine. So nerfing him to Doom Guy levels is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
@@noneofyourbusiness2437 thank you for that input but to clarify I already knew that but it's ok the comment I made is somewhat confusing :D
@@theenderdestruction2362 That moment you realize the past is the doom slayer and yet he is older than the doom guy.
‘Both fighters will be at peak strength’ Damn. That’s a struggle for the slayer considering his strength matches his will which is never-ending
DoomSlayer is literally unkillable. But I hate to underestimate anything in the 40k universe...
BFG 10k
For an unkillable, he pretty died very much against grunts in my opinion, dozens of times
Gregzenegair Skynet that’s called reverse plot armor.
"EVEN GODS MAY DIE!!!!!"
some random space marine
Imagine doomslayer vs Kaldor Draigo (same as doomslayer since he's stuck in the warp for a few thousand years now but he also has psyker powers ) or Cato Sicarius the Plot armor of 40k
Why would i beat one of my brothers
*grandchildren
He said "Daisy is a bitch"
the thing is they will beat u if they have to...
I'm pretty sure they'd consider your unnatural strength an speed along with your crucible blade to be a product of chaos an then label you a heretic.
DS doesnt talk!
The seriphim didn't give him the power, the machine did, and it worked by making his strength match his will. The slayer is factually immortal, and tens of thousands of years old. Also the hell knight has skin as strong as a tank hull, it's in the codex for 2016.
Yeah, his incorruptible and unstoppable for eaons before he was Teliported to Argent D'ner as well. So that buff was simply icing on the cake. Dude was already abdormal.
I think DS enhances the power of guns he uses judging by how he can kill said tank-knight with a minigun
It is a strong minigun but shouldn’t be tank-buster level
Considering doomslayer has fired himself out of a cannon into space stations and planets, I think it takes a bit more than bolter rounds or a power sword to drop him
he dies to lava.
We have been over this already a hundred times: Doom Slayer/ Guy, is the long lost Primarch of the Angry Marines.
not gonna lie, it be cool to see like a chapter based around him put together
@@stephtros9029
He already has a chapter. They're called the Night Sentinels.
thought the angry marines were the templar...
ALWAYS ANGRY. ALL THE TIME
@@alfatazer_8991 much closer to a blood marine IMO
He's actually 6'8" in lore now
Cheers, always a pain to dig through the web for that info.
He grows as he absorbs the souls of more Demons, it seems.
6'8... Excuse me while I Photoshop a certain comedian who's 6'8 into Doomslayer's armour.
@@Prince__Teclis Danny Devito?
@@duncanmcokiner4242 Greg Davies
"""dodges""" a bfg, what?
I know, right? More often than not I'm shooting a BFG straight across open space to let it lightning-f**k everything for as long as possible. It does for splash damage what Stonehenge did for rocks.
Can't you see, he attempted to nerf the Doomslayer but failed ultimately
@Mangoland hahahaha, this is the doomslayer, one of the strongest of his universe, against a space marine. one of literally millions of legions. 40k world would take doomslayer and devour him. I think he would become a pawn of one of the chaos gods because of his rage.
Ravenlord4711 Hazel
i hope u realize the doom slayer is essentially angry jesus. its actually quite comical how stupidly powerful the doom slayer is in lore and this video really nerfs him a ton. i love 40k and doom, but the doom slayer would make legions of astartes his bitches with how hilariously powerful he and his weapons are. think about it like this: he killed a titan, which could probably give a knight from 40k a run for its money, without his armor, and just the crucible. now what would he do against an astartes WITH all his weapons and armor. i mean as far as we know, in lore, he cannot die, as he fought literally nonstop for 10 years and wasnt even harmed when he was completely incapacitated at the mercy of hell and heaven.
Ravenlord4711 on top of that the doom slayer alone made hell desperate, the realm that conquers universes to add to the demonic horde became desperate, just imagine the amount of enemies he killed, years of experience and training from the knight sentinels, and given the power of the divinity machine, the machine capable of seeing the future and the doom slayer has its power, possibly making him a demigod or an actual god, plus the demonic crucible is pure untamed argent energy, it would absolutely destroy almost every blade the 40k universe has because remember how argent energy can power entire city blocks and would go straight through the astartes blade
I think you really downplayed the strength of the praetor suit personally, but we all know the marine and the slayer would kick demon ass together instead of fighting
Well if he's using Eternal's Slayer, that Slayer wears only the most basic components of the praetor suit to maximize mobility. You can even see the remains of it in the Slayer's Fortress in the room with the old DOS PC and the guitars.
@@sorrenblitz805 yeah
@@sorrenblitz805 I mean nothing’s stopping the slayer from just putting the rest of the armor on
If there's one thing that the Astartes and the Doom Slayer get off on *BIGTIME,* it's purging some heresy.
11:23 "Significantly Larger and Heavier" Laughs in Titan/Icon of Sin/Cyberdemon/Mancubus/Hellknight/Baron of Hell/cont.
@Faity 5 not to mention marauder is fast like slayer and his exe is basically a crusible
@Faity 5 A Baron of hell is canonically about 14.5 - 15 feet tall, so only a primarch could be close to a Baron's size height wise. A Marauder is closer to a space marine at about 8 - 9 feet tall.
Well, those are not really powerful as cosmic entity like The Emperor or Void Dragon...
@@justanordinaryguy._.7399 my comment is in reference to the fact that the person who made this video tried to insinuate that the Astartes had some kind of advantage based on their larger size and weight
Even tho I’m a massive warhammer fan, doom slayer would rip a single marine to bits without any harm. He could easily take on an entire squad.
Yeah but it depends on the space marine loadout. If it's a basic squad though, I can see doom slayer winning
Scott Fillinger unless they are honor guardor ultrasmurfs, I can’t see any way he would struggle at all
@@magicmanscott40k No no it doesn't He's literally killed things that are superior to Demonic Princes single handedly,
Demonic Princes are on the level of primarchs
@@zacht9447 ok then 18 primarch vs doom guy
@@magicmanscott40k emperor vs doomslayer
While I find it cool that he did the math going by feats and lore, the DS canonically killed a being that warps universes, summons black holes, meteors, etc and actual gods. A standard space marine is jack against that. Also survived being blasted out of an orbital cannon, a weapon compare to a nuke and having meteors dropped on him without being phased.
And he didn't need demonic energy to do so. Also, saying he had not tactical prowess makes no sense considering he was the head general of the Knight Sentinels, which requires such a mind. Not to mention he was also a Seargent in the Military which in their world is like a century or more beyond our current. He was both considered a deadly tactician and monstrous force.
Also, he's not short lmao. He towers everyone he comes across and according to the Canon is 6'8? I believe? That's almost 7 feet so their height isn't far off.
He also killed the titan with his bare hands and no suit, meaning none of the weapons the Marine has would really bother him. And even then his suit was able to tolerate the heat of a star after years if no power being in it.
Kinda felt like blatant fanboyism in regards to war hammer suggesting they'd have much of a chance let alone not get ripped in two by The Slayer. The guy can walk through nukes, withstand having trillions of tons if not more dropped on him and only stagger, and handle forces capable of cracking planets.
There's no way in Hell a standard Space Marine stands a chance beyond more than the first few seconds.
And now the Doomslayer literally punched the Seraphim, *GOD'S SERVANT* to near death.
a big factor alot of comments were ignoring was the icon of sin, a being who could literally wipe out the ENTIRE UNIVERSE by just existing. Even says so in the offical ingame codex.
@@PapaBearIsHere he beat him by chipping a way at his health, the icon’s main mistake was not taking the marine seriously enough until it was too late. If the doom slayer was taken seriously earlier he might have died but since he is immune to all demonic weaponry the best course of action it could have taken was destroying the marine’s cover, then picking him up grated he would have had to get a good grip on him, and hold him under the lava until he was dead. The space marine is of no demonic origins or wields demonic weaponry. The marine is too run and gun too careless, he would take the space marine seriously which was the icons main mistake of the icon, I feel that this video did both of the marines justice.
Grated=granted
@@CoffeeTablemmm nah bro.. The Slayer is literally indestructible not only because it was said in cutscenes and dialogue.. but his amps came from God (Davoth) it was said by the father that Primevals and more powerful beings are capable of killing each other and he beat Davoth's ass to submission easily (the being that created the fckng multiverse) 😂 so yeah... The Icon of Sin literally stood no chance
So let me get this straight, the Doom Slayer can solo armies that are billions strong and is literally unkillable, but we’re gonna compare him to a Space Marine who can be killed by a lucky shot from a bolter. Alrighty then.
Doom slayer literally killed demons in hell for THOUSANDS of years, And that was before he gained power from an angel.
Meanwhile, that one trailer where you see orcs killing space marines with swords made out of scraps.
Hey now... the Orks have a way with their gear.... to normal people it looks like a piece of scrap metal... to them its a Choppa and they think it will cut anything so because of this it can cut.. almost anything.. sometimes.. not always.. but it works.. the Orks are.. interesting.
@@freed991 Ok, see dis toaster? turn it on it's side an put a handle ‘n it.
it's a flammer, now.
@@SleepySkull1 yes just like that. Although sometimes its a flamer, sometimes its a bomb that kills the ork other times it pops up some of the most perfectly toasted toast with dakka.
The orcs probably thought it was some sort of legendary sword that could kill anything in one hit
@@SleepySkull1 U HUMMIES DONT UNDERSTAND THE BIG CHOPPY CUTTER CAN CUT ADNYTING
I love 40k, and doom, but I feel that Doomslayer would win. Yes physically it would appear that the Space Marines should win, they have the arsenal, armor and physicality to win. But Doomslayer has killed the equivalent of Bloodthirters by himself. Plus all the demons he had to kill to Get to the Bloodthirter equivalent. Doomslayer wins.
I mean he killed davoth. The one above all in the current doom verse. Davoth alone would solo all the chaos gods with the swipe of his hand.
@Local Slayer I appreciate the passing of knowledge without a condescending tone. Thank you for that brother.
@Local Slayer Commisar Gamza did a video on doom slayer vs the chaos gods and he basically called the fight between Khorne and The Slayer was child abuse. 😂😂😭
He’s killed the equivalent of khorne
Physical strength goes to doomslayer
here's the thing, the Doom marine is supposed to be player's extension in the game. he is as powerful as a character can be, and not meant for his feats to be taken literally, all the weakness are just meant for the game to be balanced. It's like when people try to make "Would Saitama be able to defeat X" from One Punch Man, He is meant to be unbeatable and a parody of the superhero trope, and I think the same applies to the Doom marine. The devs designed him to be unbeatable in the story to give the ultimate power fantasy.
Indeed. He was quite literally meant to be an unbeatable killing machine, able to accomplish any feat the game requires regardless of situation or opponent.
Meanwhile, standard space marines are simply something the Imperium needs to not get their asses instantly kicked by literally every other species. Space marines do not compare and easily die to millions of things in the 40k universe, they are simply meant to be supersoldiers. Doom slayer is meant to be a vessel for the player, unkillable in nature (in the sense of reaching the end of the story. In the timeline that he makes it, there aren't any restarts or respawns, he makes it in one go)
So transfer that into the 40K universe and doom slayer would basically just eventually be unleashed on the warp either by the imperium to minimise chaos's physical presence or by a certain chaos god that feeds off of conflict, turning doom slayer into a battery. Regardless of outside motive, he would just do what he does in Doom. Kill evil unholy spawn for eternity nonstop
@@aidanmattys7488 to make matters even more insane, the doom slayer absorbes hell energy, so IF that were to apply in the 40k universe the doom slayer would actually be feeding off entities of the warp as well
@@aidanmattys7488 agreed. Plus the space marine is the equivalent of a chess piece in the table top game, with 30 years of clear and definitive strengths, weaknesses, and limitations.
@@user-zb9jn8fl7v and then the slayer would be replacing all your peices with queens and going at it (while your opponent doesn't even have all their regular pieces)
Pretty sure the slayer could crack open the Astartes armour with his bare hands.
Breaking News: Heretic too angry to die, kills Astartes.
Yes Doom Slayer in the more recent version of the Doom games he is ridiculously more op than the Doom Guy in the older doom games. In fact another 40k youtuber Captain Master Valrak litteraly said he would be killing demons in the warp, but he would never die, while also being in a infinite stalemate against the Chaos Gods. If anything doom slayer is at least terminator space marine level, with at most being Kaldor Fucking Draigo or even Primarch Level Bullshit.
a demon price of khorne dissagrees
Faulted Bull9933 So basically what happened was that doom guy went into hell just in a event similar to the gate of molek which made emperor and Horus even more op than he already was and that’s how Doom guy became Doom Slayer. Because Doom Guy spent so much time in hell fighting demons probably because it has the same time fucking properties the warp does which made doom guy blesses by an angel and become doom slayer for killing literal trillions of demons.
Faulted Bull9933 Shut the fuck up Timmy
@@Fau1ted basically a stable warp portal. the emperor used it to grab power from the warp that allowed him to create the primarchs. later horus used it to again gain power from the chaos gods, which was what turned him from regular old horus to bullshit powerful chaos horus.
Dr. Omnus there’s a fan fiction about this happening
Majorkill: A space marine would beat doom slayer
DOOM fans: *Rip and tear until it is done*
The space Marine approaching: I CATO SICARIUS THE KNIGHT AND CHAMPION OF MACRAGGE !!!!
An unnamed space Marine would get fucked in the ass by doom slayer, a named space marine on the other hand......
@@MansMan42069 Ladies and gentlemen, behold the unparalleled maturity of 40k fanboys
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 ok, and?
Sylas Grayson you’re an idiot is what he is saying.
Doom Slayers Intelligence is severely nerfed here. The Doom Slayer, according to lure, is actually a tactical genius. He looks for and exploits weaknesses. He isn’t just pure mindless rage. He uses his rage as his drive to fulfill his purpose of revenge. In the end if the Doom Slayer can find any flaw in Astartes battle tactics, he will exploit it without hesitation.
Khorne is DOOM Slayers number one fan girl.
I highly believe that if Doom Slayer went into the Warp, he'd kill so many Khornites that Khorne would die of orgasmo
@@sethleoric2598 No, orgasms are for Slaneshi pussies. Khorne would probably be cheering him on and maybe even shouting rip and tear as the Slayer annihilates his armies.
@@spimpsmacker6422 no he'd be so full of joy that he suffers a stroke
Fuck guys i love these comments.
Khorne do not get stronger if the Slayer get more angry . The Divinity machine is much stronger than the warp ever be .
The real question is: Does the Space Marine have a fighting chance against the DOOM Slayer?
Depends on what type of space marines you’re talking about. There’s standard space marines, Terminators, Librarians, or the Grey Knights. Pretty sure Doom Slayer can handle a standard one, and his crucible can cut through Terminator armour, but he’s going to have problems with the Librarians and the Grey Knights
@@yokgor4675 I assumed it would be the standard space marine
@@yokgor4675 isn't greyknights hanging out with doom slayer on slaying demon Sunday?
Steel legion Troop then Doom Slayer’s gonna get his memory wiped every time he finished hanging out with them 😂 They’re like the MIB in 40K
@@yokgor4675 DS doesn't have a problem with anything ... the reality is that everything has a problem with DS ... drop of DS in the warp with in 3 days he would have raped the chaos gods at least a few 1000 times
If kaldor draigo and the doom slayer where actually one and the same, I wouldn't be surpirsed
Kaldor Draigo is basically the Doom Slayer of 40k.
Kaldor Draigo and Doom Slayer teamup would be lit
@@dasauce9147 Kaldor Draigo: Have you seen my sword?
Doom Guy: ...
Kaldor Draigo: No it's not! Hands don't exist in my reality!
Doom Guy: ...
@@ninjaknight6715 NO SUN!!!!
Inquisitor Titus have you ever had.... a tangerine.. *WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY ONE?*
Fun idea: Grey Knights are battling a massive daemonic invasion, but are slowly being driven back...then, a warp rift opens and from it they hear the chanting of "RIP AND TEAR! RIP AND TEAR!" as the Doom Slayer steps out onto the field of battle.
Majorkill: "I use the Metric System because I'm not a degenerate."
Me, an Imperial System User: "Thems fighting words."
Well, you know what they say, there's two kinds of nations in this world, ones which use the metric system, and one which put a man on the moon. :P
@@McDonaldWilliamT you I like you
Them be *RIP AND TEARING* noises
You wrote the title wrong let me correct it for you “can a space marine survive the doom slayer”
*HEars Doom Slayer taking cover instead of bunny hopping around the marine* Well clearly this is not in depth! lol
He didn't even use the basic combo of super shotty+ballista for 1000 damage!
@@AstinCrow or rocket with remote detonator... Or sticky bombs.... Or using BFG shot to distract him to get close for a butt shot of super shotty and meathook....
@@andrehashimoto8056 Imagine if he used an ice bomb or a flame belch. Even though he wouldn't really get armor back, that Marine would have been cooked.
@@AstinCrow He didnt even use the Meathook to fly around
Dr Hayden : No you can just shoot a hole on a space marine armor !
Doom slayer : How 'bout i do anyway !
Isn't Doom Slayer a perpetual now, since he's been blessed with immortality and respawn ability like Vulcan?
Nope he can't respawn and isn't immortal
He is a god now. He was turned into one by Samur Maykr.
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
Given that the maykrs aren't god's no.
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 not a god. he is blessed by him, seemingly samur transfered his power onto doom slayer, cause on urdak system recognized him as seraphim. so not godly powers but angelic.
@@the_dropbear4392 He is immortal.Even in the 2016 Doom game you wake up after 100 years cause the demons put you to sleep but could not destroy you
One thing I would say: the Astartes are soldiers, there only needs to be ONE Doomslayer.
Doctor Fossil that should be enough to get to the point
Agreed, the point I was making is that the Doomslayer has transcended being a soldier, and is now just a one-man army.
Matters on which Astartes tbh, primaris are stronger than the normal ones and grey knights are even stronger again.
@@The_Desert_Tiger doomslayer basically is a grey knight, difference is that he just jumps straight into it without any other thought because he absolutely hates demons more than anyone ever could
@@The_Desert_Tiger Grey Knights are strong but I guess people not into the Doom lore enough tbh. People don't realize the vast difference between the two universes. In terms of power levels, the Slayer could take out multiple Chapters with ease. He could single-handedly eradicate all the Primarchs with the God-Emperor himself, even if they attack him together. I love 40k lore, but this is not even a competition. In 40k standards, the Slayer is closer to a Chaos God in terms of power, than a human or a space marine.
When's can timmy beat a space marine
Timmy's power level is so high
Im starting to think theres a "timmy" is being born in the warp right now....
I think the Slayer in this instance is heavily understated. He would be better suited to a match up against the likes of Kratos than a space marine if you look at all of the feats he has done.
I think this should actually be "Can Doom Slayer befriend a Space Marine?"
Incorrect "Can a space marine befriend the doom slayer before he gets angry"
@@enteredge2907
Easy!
Space Marine: *Cuts Daemon in half with Chain Sword*.
Doom Slayer: *nods in silent approval*.
if it was a greyknight and he saw the demons at the guys feet i'm sure they would be the best of friends, like they just look at each other and nod in understanding
I like to think that if they meet somewhere in warp they probably nod to one a other and continue killing demons together
Imagine if all the primarchs and the doomsayer decided to team up and start a murder competition...
Darth pal Palzang
Khorne would love it.
@@darthpalpalzang7914 if that would be the case , Doomslayer would just sent them all back and kill demons alone , fuck that shit , all power for him to take down Khorne.
Um, my boi... you do realize the latest Doom game confirmed that Doom Guy and Doom Slayer are the same person?! 1:22
Doomguy is post doomslayer, same guy different strength. Like bruce banner vs the hulk.
@@orca5192 doom slayer is after he met and was trained by the night sentinel's, doom guy was from doom 1 to doom 64
At about 2:10 he shows that he knows that they are the same person.
Superkami god then why wouldn’t he say that first?
@@RoboVenturer I don't know. I guess he just wanted to highlight the differences between the character in the past as opposed to his current form.
Doomslayer: *Survives being shot from massive rail guns, heat 100s of times hotter than the sun, demons that would make Korne happy, A LITERAL MULTIDIMENTIONAL GOD THAT HE KILLS*
Majorkill: "So a pathetic bolter round, knife, and a punch from a comparatively weaker being nearly kills him"
Bro... you need to remake this and give the Doomslayer an actual run instead of... this..
Just gonna put this here:
Doom Slayer outsmarted, out-fought, out-lasted, out-maneuvered, and out-gunned literally everything in his universe... Before he even MET the Sentinels. He, a human, literally EXILED himself TO HELL before even the GODS OF THE UNIVERSE knew it existed and then continued to LIVE and THRIVE there for MILLENNIA annihilating everything in his past with a blind thirst for rage before he was finally discovered battered up but STILL FRIGGIN FIGHTIN. ALL THAT BEFORE DOOM ETERNAL EVEN STARTS, before he even gets GOD powers. Christ almighty the fuckin' man was just Deadpool for masochists/sadists! And then, AND THEN, he is given the powers of immortality by who I can only assume was someone secretly above even the gods of his universe, at which point he continues to BLAST HIS INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY TWENTY NEW ASSHOLES.
The dudes power most certainly would carry over to Warhammer 40k's universe AND intellectual property, even if his tech wouldn't. He could literally fight any average Astartes in nothing but a cotton headband with his MASSIVE MARINE WRECKINGBALLS hanging out and annihilate them completely. Even the God Emperor wasn't fully immortal to be fair, meaning that technically he's on slightly uneven ground (even if I think that a battle like that would be FAR too complicated to ever properly understand.
But I think we're all missing the real point here. Slayer's innate immortality and abilities carry over, but his tech does not (aside from those with ammunition/energy that he could build himself). You know what this means, right?
Our boy, Primearch Slayer, clad in CUSTOM POWER-ARMOR and gifted the ability to use it, wielding his VERY OWN chainsword and equipped with anything he wants to store in his pocket dimension. Bolter? He'll have it. Lasgun? Heavy Flamer? Check. TURBOLASER FUCKIN' DESTRUCTOR? He'll be whipping that bad boy out like a squeeze-bottle of ketchup at the hot-dog stand!
Best part, since technically the humans aren't really arguing against the inquisitors (aside from heretics) Slayer is probably just gonna suit up and ride off into the warp to wage infinite war for them anyway! Win/Win. What a wonderful crossover that would be.
Need me a Doom Slayer clad in terminator armor ASAP
If you add up all your caps words you get ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED
Oat lord delete that right now before I make your house disappear 👽
asian lee He’s still gonna haul a fuck TLD around I guarantee it. Shock value 🤣
asian lee “Well... That’s one spicy Chaos Ship now.”
Space Marine: *has a Armor that is not penetrable by legit anything known to the Warhammer Universe*
Doom Slayer: *laughs in Crucible Sword*
Not exactly but kinda... no normal man can kill break them but other astartes and other things have been known to do this
Are we forgetting how he just easily strips the armor of a heavily armored Cyber Mancubus with just one punch?
@@antondavidovic3996 true i also think that the doom slayer could rip atleast some parts out considering that he just ripped off a horn from a demon which was (its too long ago to remember correctly) approx the same size as himself after he "just" woke up
@@sammarino7357 ik i exaggerated on that one
@@Azriel4789 You talking about the Baron of Hell? That thing is way bigger than the Slayer i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/300/518/f19.jpg
Pretty good take, however, you seemed to ignore the Doomslayer's massively superior strength when they began their duel/brawl. You also ignored the Doomslayer's vast experience by saying the SM was unlike any foe he'd faced, which I beg to differ. Even though the Doomslayer hasn't faced SMs before, he has fought against plenty of ranged, and close ranged foes nearly nonstop for thousands of years, and Demon's are not always mindless.
Also, haven't the fireballs/fire attacks of Doom demons been calculated to be as hot as the surface of the sun? I think it's somewhat dishonest conjecture to assume the reason Doomslayer can withstand that kind of firepower is because of specific hell resistance that doesn't apply in any other scenario. It feels cheap and more than a little biased. Not to mentiom, the Doomslayer has much better feats for strength considering he was able to break the unknown metal chains in the first game, after being sealed away for a tremendous amount of time. Not to mention the fact that the Doomslayer was able to kill a titan without his gear, I'm pretty sure that's a feat no space marine, save a chapter master or top tier librarian could manage. Of course, I realize you could interpret these feats as outliers due to gameplay being somewhat inconsistent in comparison, but that just comes with the territory of comparing a game to a tabletop/books.
I wouldn't say i ignored his strength at all - he blocked a two handed downward swipe from the Space Marines Power Sword with only one hand on his blade plus the sword fight had actually broken the bones in the space marines hand
@@majorkill ah I hadn't heard the broken bone part. The blocking scene seemed to be the only instance where the Doomslayer was able to demonstrate his superior strength. A good example is when the SM picked the Doomslayer up, which makes some sense because he may be lighter, but the Doomslayer does nothing, he just lets the SM pick him up and ragdoll him. More likely is that would've turned into a wrestle of sorts, which the Doomslayer would've handily won. Anyways, I still stand by my other points. It was a good video though.
@@majorkill, the issue is the armor imo, UAC made tests, one which was using a laser cannon with laser temperature reaching core of sun temperatures (that's very hot) for hours, the suit didn't have a scratch...
Plus it should be noted that the Slayer is more of a Run n Gun person, he can tank a few hits, but he prefers to keep hits to a minimum and use his experience with shooting on the move to hit his foes or keep them suppressed...
Should be noted that no demon was strong enough to stun or daze the Slayerz he only got a brief Stun period when the demons dropped a temple the size of a large city on top of him (that's heavy enough to put him close to some middle tier high end superheroes), so it's doubtful an Astartes punch would be strong enough to get the Slayer to flinch
@@andrehashimoto8056 It's silly to compare WH40K where stuff is OP but everything is OP, and everyone has a weakness, and than doomguy who is "incorruptible" and has "invincible" armor (except the 3 things from his lore that can hurt him).. it's a stupid debate from the beginning, it's like trying to debate Doomguy vs Dr. Manhattan from Watchman who can twist time and reality in any way and could disintegrate Doomguy on a molecular level with a mere thought. Things from different universes shouldn't be debated unless they're built in a similar fashion, and this is not it.
Space marines are super soldiers but in no way the "heroes" of the WH40k universe as they are largely expendable and are used as a tool of the Imperium, some make it to legendary status via plot but most are no names who get murked, while Doomguy is the main protagonist/hero that fights hell and succeeds in the lore and that's why he has to have plot armor that he is so and so.
Even if you compared Doomguy from someone who could be considered important in the lore for WH40K, for example the Primarch Vulkan, who can't be killed no matter how bad you mutilate/disintegrate him (since he is a Perpetual being), you just get another stupid debate as they're simply not meant to exist in the same universe.
WH40K got it's own rules and beings, Doom has it's own, both are cool, leave it at that.
@@95goa >It's silly to compare WH40K where stuff is OP but everything is OP, and everyone has a weakness, and than doomguy who is "incorruptible"
Except it's not. The entire Malodrax book was exactly about the tests of a Space Marine's will and how indomitable it is against forces of temptation, exactly like Doomguy against the forces of Hell for a thousand years. The comparison is entirely apt to make.
Additionally, the Praetor suit isn't actually impenetrable, but it is supported by an energy field to dissipate plasma (which may or may not also factor against pure physical trauma) and is obviously very resistant to anything a-la ceramite but far more consistent, if the impact compensation system and stress tests the UAC did are anything to go by (and despite what Mr. Hashimoto said, the UAC did not, in fact, use a laser against the suit, otherwise it would be ruined before Doomguy got to wear it. I can not imagine where he got that from).
>[Space Marine's] are largely expendable
No. Besides a scant few stories, Space Marine casualties never exceed a dozen, and very rarely reach that number. Hell, they haven't been expendable since the Codex Astartes went into print.
>while Doomguy is the main protagonist/hero that fights hell and succeeds in the lore and that's why he has to have plot armor
Like Space Marines aren't the main protagonists of their own stories? Like there even _is_ a coherent, overarching story in 40k with clear, definable actors and a protagonist who you can pit against Doom Slayer? Because there sure as Hell isn't, and even if you tried the closest you'd get is the gods of bullfuckery or God-Emperor Trump. You're being arbitrary about what qualifies a character to be pitted against another in meta-fictional death battles, when in fact anything goes: be it GM's against Gunbuster, Doctor Doom vs Doomguy or even a Ceph grunt facing a whole Space Marine company.
>WH40K got it's own rules and beings, Doom has it's own, both are cool, leave it at that.
You severely underestimate the powers of autistic power scaling, and even so that's not a suitable argument as to why the two shouldn't be compared. That's like saying we shouldn't compare Dragon Ball to Naruto because the average Dragon Ball character can destroy planets on their own, on a whim, no questions asked, while the most Naruto has done is blow up a mountain.
I would imagine the Doomslayer would eventually overthrow the Imperium and become the new Emperor of Mankind. Only demons can hurt the Doomslayer thanks to the Praetor armor which also heals him the more demons he kills. I don't think anyone of the Imperium's legions could stand up against the Slayer's vengeful wrath against the heretical Emperor: who he sees as a corrupted and false God.
Doom Slayer trapped in warp realm: this is an absolute win
Lol I like how the Slayer wins even after some key problems with his analysis.
Had his analysis been totally accurate, the fight would have twice as fast.
It would have lasted a total of 2 actual seconds accounting for travel time
Doomslayer is at least Sanguinius level, he took out his universes equiv of a titan in close quarters combat. And his universes equiv of a titan is actually a lot bigger than 40ks titans, which is saying something.
Very much depends on the titan we're talking about though, an emperor class would clap hell titan cheeks for days... millennia even
Err not at all Sanguinius' equivalent unless you have feats for him throwing hundreds of tonnes like cardboard and flying faster than the speed of sound and seeing laser move in slow motion
Not just any titan, the most powerful titan in hell, which is an infinite dimension.
This is just difficult to say, sure he killed an being that is basicly the devil, but hell in Doom and Hell (warp) in 40k is very different. If you are going just by feats everyone has then no his not Sanguinius level. He can probably be at that level if a writer wrote him to be but his not at that level by any means because the demons in DOOM are not all that scary compared to Demons in 40k which by lore literally regenerates or can not be hurt by physcial/plasma weapons. Demons in doom are just another physical being that can bleed. I think we should not compare people, Doom guy is a bad ass in his universe, and space marines are bad asses in their universe.
well bigger does not mean stronger)