Mad Men Interview

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
  • WorldScreen.com sits down with Jon Hamm and Elisabeth Moss to discuss the pop-culture phenomenon that is Mad Men.

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  • @vintagehippie3647
    @vintagehippie3647 6 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    I truly believe this show will live on into history and be watched for history. Without doubt about the best written, character development, acted, filmed show ever done.

    • @camila92500
      @camila92500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I totally agree! Mad men is completely different from any other show.

    • @rbfoster
      @rbfoster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mad men is my FAVORITE. Ive rewatched it 4 times on Netflix. I don't love the ending but I love how they incorporated historical events.

    • @cross5269
      @cross5269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@anastasios_moumouris Lost? Jesus christ

    • @chaicha1976
      @chaicha1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rbfoster SAMEEEE

    • @malotielemans3863
      @malotielemans3863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right but Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad and Peaky Blinders say hello ;)

  • @mariasja1234
    @mariasja1234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    I can't believe they're not actually Peggy and Don

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thats how you know it was a great performance by great actors.

    • @gsev38
      @gsev38 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How dare they

    • @saeedvazirian1620
      @saeedvazirian1620 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's because you're daft

  • @ronrobertson59
    @ronrobertson59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I've watched the entire series four times. It is the best TV show I've seen.

  • @geoffduck87
    @geoffduck87 13 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I love that he calls her "Lizzy." Amazing characters, incredible show. This will be the best 7 seasons of television ever.

  • @theshoeminator
    @theshoeminator 11 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I think I could watch Jon Hamm all day, as he's sitting on a couch looking slightly rumpled and deep in thought. The only man who can be sexier than Don Draper is Jon Hamm.

  • @gazebo6333
    @gazebo6333 11 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Don Draper's character is funny. He loves control, doesn't ask, just does and waits for others reactions. But he's successful. People love him for being right, but hate him for being right as well. One of the most complex characters in the history of television.

  • @joym9189
    @joym9189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    got hooked on Netflix showing until June 10th got 30 more episodes to get through. Jon Hamm should be the next James Bond!

    • @elcuh970
      @elcuh970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing happened to me. Prime has season for like 5 bucks each

    • @FHkhiUS
      @FHkhiUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here man .... I was barely able to finish the last season the day before on June 9th!!

    • @DPMusicStudio
      @DPMusicStudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not Scottish.

  • @heranje
    @heranje 12 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Beauty is not the end-all and be-all. The Mad Men stylists certainly know how to make someone look good - look at January Jones, Christina Hendricks, most of the other actresses playing secretaries, Don's love interests etc. Peggy is not supposed to be that, and Peggy's styling is clearly a very deliberate choice to convey her personality and where she is in her life. They're telling a story visually.

  • @baronantoine
    @baronantoine 11 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Elisabeth Moss is so cute !!

  • @ch39547
    @ch39547 13 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Not saying this is good or bad, but when Jon Hamm gives interviews, Don Draper seems to completely disappear. On the other hand when Elisabeth Moss is speaking, I do feel like I'm watching Peggy from Mad Men.

  • @janeb2162
    @janeb2162 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Watched Mad Men first season it came out, liked it, but got busy and let it go...revisited it this summer and have watched all but the last 7 episodes, have been addicted.....I spent four years on Madison Ave in the early 80's when I first graduated with my business degree, it wasn't all that different from the 60's, I could relate to so much and it really took me back...Such a sensational show, the acting is amazing!

    • @emilyspitzer5917
      @emilyspitzer5917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I worked for a huge ad agency in the early/mid 90’s and the exact same things happened there! Love this show so much.

  • @victoriamyst4742
    @victoriamyst4742 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    John Hamm is so humble in this interview. He became a huge star (and boy, so well deserved). So is the case with Elizabeth Moth. The casting is genius in the show. These actors are so where they’re supposed to be, it gives you chill and inspiration.

  • @RaniaBhatti
    @RaniaBhatti 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favorite actors and I love his deep voice 😍😩

  • @MMaaddeelleeiinnee
    @MMaaddeelleeiinnee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    11:53 No. One of the best things in this show is that they just show you how the things are and leave no comment on it, so it's for the viewer to form an opinion. Otherwise it wouldn't be eatable. I like when authors treat their audience like that.

    • @jonhamm734
      @jonhamm734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks dear and nice to meet you 💝

  • @Pureimagination200
    @Pureimagination200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just binged mad men for the third time since it ended in 2015. I find something new each time I watch it. My favorite characters are Peter, Betty and Roger. I just love the fashion of the 60’s.

  • @throwawayaccount842
    @throwawayaccount842 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Liz is the best, I'm glad I got to see this interview cause we dont get to see enough of her.

  • @ottschi63
    @ottschi63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    🗣„:first i need a cigarette and an old fashioned!"🚬🤩🥃

  • @timeweston
    @timeweston 10 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    A show about the 'human condition'

    • @pedroaraujo1054
      @pedroaraujo1054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's not human condition, its a show about capitalism in the 60s

    • @emergencyfood7660
      @emergencyfood7660 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@pedroaraujo1054 the shows basic theme at its core is happiness and the ways we as humans use consumerism through media, sex, money, marriage etc etc to fill that void in us. The backdrop is 60s America but it's also very much about how humans cope

  • @anneredmoon
    @anneredmoon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    excellent, excellent interview

  • @makdoodle12
    @makdoodle12 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Elizabeth Moss is awesome in the show!

  • @skepsys
    @skepsys 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    truly. magnificent show. best show ive seen in the last 20 years. no words. so great.

  • @RJCooper2
    @RJCooper2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such great framing and detailed videography of two of my favorite characters ever…or no, that was my perception after first watching-then I realized when looking back, it's just all about these two personalities and the way they interact and support.

  • @carleavesceo709
    @carleavesceo709 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I first saw "Mad Men" on the Oprah Winfrey show. It was about the 1960's. I bought the 1st season on DVD and I was hooked ever since.

  • @dealerovski82
    @dealerovski82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scandinavian audience here since 2007

  • @EnochJC
    @EnochJC 11 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The AMC was like "oh we need more shows? lets write Mad Men, Breaking Bad and adapt TWD and fuck every other channel"

  • @billsparty
    @billsparty 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LOL I hope "Rectify" will be added to everyone's lists of favorites very soon.
    I love it so far.

  • @RodPotter
    @RodPotter 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    By FAR, AMC is the ONLY network worth watching! All of their shows, Mad Men, Walking dead etc are fantastic! In a world of reality show crap, you guys give us great television.Thank you for all of your great work. It is truly appreciated.

    • @irishgrl
      @irishgrl 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rod Potter don't forget Hell on Wheels

  • @brianyoung3
    @brianyoung3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that the Peggy character is so important in this series because the timeline is going from well before the modern feminist era to right in the middle of it. I think that the series deals with this quite well although in the interview, I'm not sure that Elizabeth truly understands how forward Peggy really was. Looking back from the 2010's to the 1960's is 50 years and we've come a helluva long way even though there is more to go clearly. But, the 60's is within living memory for most boomers and for children of the 80's and 90's it was really another world imo.

  • @OccasionalDiary
    @OccasionalDiary 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh my God! These dialogues, it's like a typical boss yelling and telling his subordinate how thankless she is and why she should be grateful because she was nothing when she was given an opportunity by him to work for this agency. SO SO TRUE and typical of bosses!

    • @jonhamm734
      @jonhamm734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks dear and nice to meet you 💝

  • @klarebear7211
    @klarebear7211 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    he;s completely right, mad men is one of the best written shows on television right now, none of my friends get why i watch it and it;s like besides how well it;s written it;s jon fracking hamm!!!

  • @glaked32
    @glaked32 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every actor on that show appears to either be ridiculously smart and/or attractive.

  • @ankicat3425
    @ankicat3425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving the show and the clothes and music

  • @tadmvmb
    @tadmvmb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jon Hamm should play James Bond.

  • @cumomsandcureloms
    @cumomsandcureloms 11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think Peggy is the most beautiful woman in the cast!

  • @lompockid
    @lompockid 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legend has it .Jon Hamm was drinking undistilled vodka out of that glass .

    • @teeniebeenie8774
      @teeniebeenie8774 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the dam cigs are killing his delightful voice
      sad

  • @yobolion
    @yobolion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the concept and characters are so well written that I always care about what happens to them in Mad Men! Sometimes the script takes me out of it! But it also uses dream and fantasy logic even if some of the scenes seem superficially unrealistic!

  • @gtoger
    @gtoger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    They found the nastiest looking sofa on which to have this conversation.

    • @thegaytree5818
      @thegaytree5818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s called the casting couch ;)

  • @jenn9911
    @jenn9911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started watching the show, and fell in love with it, the fashion the style the story... EVERYTHING! But netflix took it down and couldn’t even watch the first season... but I’m definitely going to find it somewhere even tho i already know the ending LMAO... and the fact than John calls her Lizzy is so cuteee

    • @jonhamm734
      @jonhamm734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks dear and nice to meet you 💝

  • @leonardobarbosa7689
    @leonardobarbosa7689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2020, pandemic, lots of problems in the elections, i think the next decade it's going to be full of big events like the 60's.

  • @soulleskill
    @soulleskill 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ahh season 5 is great, to the future!

  • @Kulascus
    @Kulascus 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poland loves you guys :D

  • @TheDigitalMedia
    @TheDigitalMedia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That microphone produces amazing sound. Anyone knows the make and model? Is it a Shure perhaps?

    • @TheDigitalMedia
      @TheDigitalMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jeffrey Stern wish I could know for sure 😊

  • @brianambrosemcmahon8531
    @brianambrosemcmahon8531 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A once in a life time time piece of a generation . It exposes the human condition and all its frailty and hope for the future.

  • @shinytan
    @shinytan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing is that looking jon every expression reminded us more n more of Don...
    I don't know, if it's good thing for an actor or not... But Don is kinda character, you never ever wanted him to go away....
    Infact both Elizabeth and Jon are as natural as one can be... That's the beauty of it, I Guess...

  • @flowhannesburg1912
    @flowhannesburg1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOAT show.

  • @krrr427
    @krrr427 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He is pretty.

  • @VerifiedFiveIron
    @VerifiedFiveIron 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KAAllitt
    I thought the exact same thing. I think it's a good thing. It shows that no matter who the actors really are, they are able to embody their characters completely and perfectly. Good observation.

  • @billsingleton6617
    @billsingleton6617 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She is gorgeous there.

  • @gazebo6333
    @gazebo6333 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No. Many of them are either fired or leave because they were rejected. Its the main characters that remain.

  • @GiggleFishy
    @GiggleFishy 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think they could have gotten a bigger microphone?

  • @EugenieHeraty
    @EugenieHeraty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's kinda fun seeing the way sexy Jon Hamm fiddles & picks with his fingers as Lizzy talks

  • @vrmmmm
    @vrmmmm 12 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Wow, Peggy is hot in real life!

  • @jmbwithcats
    @jmbwithcats 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KAAllitt I think it's telling of how good of an actor Hamm is.

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There has never been a better more compelling exposition of the irony and hypocracy gauranteed by the unquestioned sexual double standards of the 50s and 60s.

  • @XxMyLameUserNamexX
    @XxMyLameUserNamexX 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm always looking for an interview that explains why Don cheats. Am I wrong for thinking that he loves his wife and is happily married?

    • @Cichka
      @Cichka 10 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Desire to be wanted, since he wasn't even wanted by his own father, then step-mother.

    • @mihirjadhav2796
      @mihirjadhav2796 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Don is a narcissist. Probably has the narcissistic personality disorder too. Narcissists are known to cheat.

    • @dasman01
      @dasman01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      XxMyLameUserNamexX It's a way to express the human condition. We are never satisfied (in fact, Don say this in his diary "When a man walks into a room").
      Don cheats because it's his way to externalize his dissatisfaction.
      But reading other comments, maybe he cheats because he likes to be wanted, because his parents doesn't paid attention to him when he was a kid.
      That's the beauty of this show, the characters are so complex... their actions can be interpreted from various perspectives.

    • @marilyns8497
      @marilyns8497 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      XxMyLameUserNamexX
      Well it's crystal clear that he's not happily married, and neither is his wife! He doesn't love his wife at all. So I guess you are a bit wrong.

    • @marilyns8497
      @marilyns8497 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ren2250 Boredom.

  • @fgfg633
    @fgfg633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She looks so much different without those horrible wigs/hairstyles.

  • @LixxLixx
    @LixxLixx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    they looked at eachother so perfectly at the same time what the fuck

  • @superfest18
    @superfest18 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @geoffduck87 what do you mean 7 seasons have the announced that they will only be doing 7

  • @geoffduck87
    @geoffduck87 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @superfest18 Matthew Weiner has said in a few interviews that "7 Seasons seems like enough" - he wants to round the series off and end it in a safe and succinct way around 1970 (just go through the 60's). I think it's smart. If you read all the interviews he already kinda has an ending in mind as well (spoiler alert). I probably would not want to see more than seven or eight seasons... seems appropriate.

  • @anantambisht4895
    @anantambisht4895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peggghhyyy, come here!! I can't sign you on jaguar

  • @zurielmarcos798
    @zurielmarcos798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A good sequel would be Don Draper's life in the 80s.

    • @EpicJbanzai
      @EpicJbanzai ปีที่แล้ว

      Just an episode of Don's end of career would be great.

  • @DavidDavidson587
    @DavidDavidson587 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Jon totally smiled 6:25 because u know in the show and probably in real life too he could have hooked up with Elisabeth aka Peggy. Tbh I wouldnt be surprised if they hooked up irl. They have too much chemistry.

  • @TumbleweedCx
    @TumbleweedCx 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Put me in, coach."

  • @DavidMcCartney789
    @DavidMcCartney789 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes sense the writer is formerly of Sopranos.

  • @igortrinajstic92
    @igortrinajstic92 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In this show everything is excelent. Casting, cloths small.objects like pecils mugs furniture .kitchen etc every single detalj is so perfect. All of them has some caracter. Finaly show brineš you in really age of sixties. Jon Hamm is perfrct in show he looks like he just jump from.some Hitchcock movie .

  • @jobecker4381
    @jobecker4381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s so weird looking at celebrities knowing they’re Scientologists

  • @aris95
    @aris95 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are so nice :)

  • @hipnhappenin
    @hipnhappenin 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I saw the thumbnail I thought Elisabeth Moss was January Jones, and I cried, "Nooooooo!" Moss deserves more than Jones to be interviewed and recognized.

  • @carbine125
    @carbine125 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's just say when he means "we all took a risk" he means the company that made madmen because there's no doubt they took a risk doing madmen.

  • @superfest18
    @superfest18 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @geoffduck87 yes true it would be good move to cut it at 7 seasons. But i love it so much ! i will get so depressed when it finishes

  • @BeAsTMoDE528
    @BeAsTMoDE528 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    -Plot Holes
    I can't really name one here, so please point one out to me or this point is moot.
    -Stupid Choices
    Some characters are fucking idiots. Some people are ALSO fucking idiots. And the only awful choices I can think of off the top of my head are the ones Rick's family do.
    -Baffling Character Motives
    You understand people lose their mind when everyone around you dies right? Not everyone can be level headed. This applies to the last point.
    It's not a poorly written show, don't be a dumbass.

  • @theoryg
    @theoryg 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's teh duramax man. This time something worth getting into-

  • @yankeeangel26
    @yankeeangel26 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Mad Men, but AMC wasn't as obscure as Jon Hamm says when the show started. It just had a very different format.

  • @mark11967AD
    @mark11967AD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At one point near the end Elisabeth says they do bad things, but they’re not bad people. I think you could argue Don during certain periods is a bad person based on the totality of his hedonistic conquests and there destructive consequences no mattter how sympathetic we are in the basis of his childhood traumas.

  • @ericwiseman1995
    @ericwiseman1995 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with Felix 100%.

  • @guilapl
    @guilapl 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You just made your list upside down, buddy.

  • @wisterV
    @wisterV 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Miss Moss is the sexiest gal on the show.

  • @AndreabelievesinJesusChrist
    @AndreabelievesinJesusChrist 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    aren't we all.

  • @khnh9739
    @khnh9739 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:32 This makes Don sounds like a jerk but he does recognize the talents and works that his co-workers/subodinates does. He does value and respect Peggy and Pete much more in season 7 compare to season 1.

  • @MrSMW1989
    @MrSMW1989 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think Don's Lifestyle rubs off on Jon's Eyes.

  • @ampm9771
    @ampm9771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You wish you could be in Don's place, but then you don't want because of the sad things keep happening in his life. But you say to yourself wish I was in his place so I could take different action, but then again it's all speculation.... Whatever happened in Don's life had to happen.

  • @etsneroj
    @etsneroj 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or they should get emmys for deliberately making her look her look the way her character was supposed to look in season 1: A girl from Brooklyn who needs a make-over.

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pete's chracter arc in season 5; geez can you say nuanced hubris?; tragic?or what.

  • @olichudarnee2109
    @olichudarnee2109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mad Men - “Cure for the Common Human Condition”??!!🙂

  • @blastofre
    @blastofre 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not Betty.

  • @rivariad
    @rivariad 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice watch you got there don

  • @ch39547
    @ch39547 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @CleverDjembe Thank you, Captain Obvious.

  • @skepsys
    @skepsys 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    and wonderful actors :)

    • @afriend9428
      @afriend9428 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      skepsys *THE BEST!* ⭐️

  • @hdguy5
    @hdguy5 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMC have 3 of my fave shows running on it:
    1. The Walking Fcuking Dead
    2. Breaking Fcuking Bad
    3. Mad Fcuking Men!

  • @laneeret7585
    @laneeret7585 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    me trying to talk on DPH 8:03

  • @pierrepaviard9769
    @pierrepaviard9769 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turn-down, maybe. But it most certainly is HER life.

  • @proffessoremoo
    @proffessoremoo 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @viniciusb Dude, what's your deal?

  • @DannyBoy443
    @DannyBoy443 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best line in this when Jon says, "They're not evil" straight up lol. It's so common sense and grounded. That's the thing about truly smart people. You can say big words all day, but if no one understand what the fuck you're telling them, it's more worthless than dead smokers lungs.

  • @jakesohn7591
    @jakesohn7591 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1. Breaking Bad
    2. Mad Men
    3. The Killing
    4. The Walking Dead
    That's my order

    • @Elbonanero
      @Elbonanero 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The walking dead?

  • @SowmyaJain0014
    @SowmyaJain0014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peggy is love

  • @goma5102
    @goma5102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    サムネ みんなでカラオケに行ったのかと思った💧

  • @sangeetadasappa1947
    @sangeetadasappa1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is he doing with his fingers? Or is it his nails

    • @afriend9428
      @afriend9428 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sangeeta Dasappa *Cleaning them!!!*

  • @CleverDjembe
    @CleverDjembe 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KAAllitt
    -1

  • @machovoce6826
    @machovoce6826 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    LOL. Hamm took a risk? By what, getting paid for a change? What WAS he doing seven years ago anyway? Please.

    • @Liselorebon
      @Liselorebon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought the same thing! He acts like he was giving everything up to be on mad men!

    • @nacs
      @nacs 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      LiLo It's a multi-year commitment that will consume all his time. Of course it's a risk.

    • @d_no_allyn_86
      @d_no_allyn_86 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      nacs bravo to you.

    • @Liselorebon
      @Liselorebon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      nacs of course. He had to give up paying small roles in commercials, not to mention his job as a waiter. No, this is what people call an opportunity. Not a risk.

    • @David-dd6dc
      @David-dd6dc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      LiLo The second episode was shot a year after the pilot. Everybody had to wait and see if it would be picked up I think. This is probably what it means. It was not a sure thing and at the time none of these people probably had much money, etc.

  • @AndreabelievesinJesusChrist
    @AndreabelievesinJesusChrist 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    what exactly is a scientologist? what do they believe in?