Ein Tenor, der mit voller Resonanzausnutzung singt, damit einen runden, warmen, hell-dunklen und weichen, aber auch strahlenden Klang in jeder Lage mühelos erreicht. Genau so klingt für mich ein gut ausgebildeter Sänger! Bravo!
I have just seen this opera on 3Sat TV and I agree fully with you. I've got goosebumps and tears in my eyes as well when he sung the Gralserzählung. For this reason I have looked on TH-cam to hear him again. It's a wonderful, emotional performance from a brillant singer.
Anyone who knows anything about singing will admit this is the finest Helden Tenor singing the world has heard in many, many years. The production is irrelevant, anything else going on in this production is irrelevant. Jonas Kaufman is the real deal. His voice is one in a million.
merv eilleux Jonas : après "Adriana Lecouvreur" cet hiver à Londres, et Siegmund de la Walkyrie au Met, toutes ses prises de rôle sont fascinantes de profondeur et d'intensité. Merci .
Thank you for posting this live take which sounds great not to forget your steady hand with the video camera. JK commanded this role from beginning to end which we all observed from the first stage rehearsal onwards. Even when he fell ill with Schüttelfrost and a fever & had to stop after Act 2 in the last performance, he was excellent. It was wonderful to hear and see that the audience was totally spell bound by the moment. Thank you for the clip
Don't forget to hear Anja Harteros,she will be very soon one of the best. Jonas is pure emotion, and all these light tenors criticizing him should learn how to sing hearing what Jonas does with his voice, well controlled A magnificent musicianship
Thanks so much for upload! Kaufmann sang a most poetic In fernen Land. I attended the second performance in the house and he was equally wonderful. It would be great if you could post some more...much appreciated!
Come on, people, don't blame the singer if the staging sucks. He does his part excellently. He deserves better, both staging and critics. He IS Lohengrin; the regie is but something else... This wonderful opera deserves better respect from regisseurs
Well I can say, he's a good singer any way, may he does not have the power from corelli's voice or anyother's skills. That's because HE IS HIM!!. A good and technic lyric tenor with dark timbre. Very well Master Jonas!
That was the most beautiful performance I've ever heard of this and I've heard it many times. I performed in Lohengrin at the SF Opera and we had several Lohengrins and none of them memorable or remarkable. This was both. The production looks ridiculous, though. Why must directors make it so hard for us to connect with these characters and the story?
Perfidiame - I sang in the Bayreuther Festpielchor for years and had better than a front row seat there! Neither Peter Hoffman NOR Siegfried Jerusalem could carry the shoes of Kaufman. What a genius!
You are obviously impressed with the Italian voices, and I must admit, I like them too.. but this guys voice is really something special.. Corelli and De Monaco sang flat.... and would never dream of singing this with as much sensitivity as he does, I loved this an I don't even like Wagner much.
To each his own, I feel that "Im fernen Land" should not be sung like a lament, but a proud statement. He sang it like he was apologizing for being the son of Parcival.
Perfidiame, Jonas Kaufmann characterizes "In fernem Land" please note! not "Im fernen Land" in the most perfect manner as it is supposed to be. "In fernem Land" contains many sorts of emotions, not only the one you perceive. Jonas Kaufmann projects all of them in an impressive manner!
Perfidiame, My remark about your judgment referred to your comment "money being the motivation for singers to participate in such production", it is just placed in the wrong place, I dont know why. Regarding Peter Hoffmans Lohengrin I agree with you, I also like it. I find both excellent characterizations showing two different ways of doing it.
I am glad for you to have had that experience, but I don't know if you saw Peter Hoffman's performance in San Francisco. I guess it comes down to the question of personal taste. Great singers they all are (or were). I like Jonas Kaufmann very much.
Incredible, sensitive, moving performance. Especially considering the fact that Kaufmann had to sit down for 99% of the aria. This unquestionably reduces a singer's power and expressiveness, so it is a miracle and a testament to his skill that he sounded as good as he did. Idiotic production and staging, would have been far, far better in the traditional "knight in shining armor" style. Sorry to those who are looking for innovation and new approaches. Those can indeed be superb...when they do not detract from the original operatic story, and do not hobble the singers with ridiculous stage directions, such as Lohengrin sitting during this magnificent, touching, and heroic aria.
Jonas Kaufmann cariñito, mi, vida, mi amor, nuestro, juramento, en Fiumiccino, eres, el, precioso cisne blanco, del caballero cisne, mi Maravillosa, sueño, hecho realidad. Adoro, tu capacidad de, emocionarte, en público.!!!
we're lucky to have him, musician that he is I haven't seen the production apart from clips but it seems to me that staging opera the same way over and over again(especially Lohengrin - "fur deutsches land das deutsches schwert" and all the swords and shields) is in fact the easiest way to kill it completely
I have the utmost respect for H. Kaufmann. I find his singing to be very, very good. I think he may over-darken a bit, but that is a taste issue and I don't believe it will hurt his singing in any way. I woud have to say though, that I hope that he limits his foray into the Wagner world to Lohengrin and Stolzing, because I do not find his voice to have enough "metal" to sing the less-lyric Heldentenor roles.
my word, beautiful singing. i've heard Kaufmann in the more classical romantic roles - Rodolfo, Werther, Alfredo,etc., but this seems to fit him like a glove. And i don't think its just because he IS german....he seems to sing this role completely openly and honestly, he's not playing a part. Loved it. Shame the rest of it looks like an AA meeting run by zombies. :) Can't have everything I guess.
Wagner himself thought of his Lohengrin as a romantic opera,The hero as the defender of the noble and just ! This production is a farce, I personally like Kaufmann's concept of singing this in a very lyrical approach. - Mr, Jones on the other side should go home and read some book, for instance "Th Tristan Chord" nt Bryan Magee.
@unethicaldenier Rudolf Schock ist auch mein Nummer 1 wenn es um die Rolle des Lohengrin geht, aber ich muss auch die anderen recht geben: man kann Schocks Stimme unmöglich mit der Stimme Jonas Kaufmanns vergleichen. Auch sein Lohengrin gefällt mir außerordentlich. Und genauso René Kollo und Peter Hoffmann, sowie auch Klaus Florian Vogt, ein großer Star am Wagner Firmament heutzutage! Gerade die Verschiedenheit dieser Stimmen ist so wunderbar und genießenswert.
Wow, I think Kaufman has finally found his forte as a tenor. I don`t particulary like himin Mozart, Verdi nad Bizet operas. But this is truly fantastic.
I think you are a bit wrong. JK had slight problems in act 1 and 2, but was really great in act 3. This Gralserzählung was probably the best he ever sang. But of course some people don't understand his very special way of interpretation and singing exactly the loudness the composer asked for. I think the production is less upsetting than some other productions over here, it was just boring but easy to ignore.
@MariadelMonaco Es gibt sehr viele Methoden. Eine Zahl kann ich nicht nennen. Es gibt aber nur wenige Methoden, die zum konkurrenzfähigen Singen führen. Über Voce System Singing kann man auf den entsprechenden Seiten alles nachlesen und sich informieren. Die Methode basiert auf der Singart der führenden Sänger. Dazu gehören auch ihre genannten und noch viele weitere Sänger, wie auch z. B. Anna Netrebko.
@WhiteProfondo I sang often with Schock and taught Kaufmann. Schock had a small voice in comparison to Kaufmann. Kaufmann does not knödel but sings with open throat sbadigliare.
@WhiteProfondo Du scheinst gerne deinen Senf zu jedem Video abzugeben. Ich glaub ich bin nicht der erste dem des auffällt dass du zu fast jedem Video von irgendjemandem irgendeinen schlechten Kommentar abgibst White Profondo. Du solltest mehr genießen oder andere genießen lassen.
Anstatt nur Voce System Singing und die Singart Kaufmanns zu verdammen, würde mich sehr interessieren, welche Methode Sie bevorzugen? Wo kann man Videos und/oder Audios von Ihnen anhören? Das interessiert mich, um mir ein besseres Bild von Ihren Ansichten machen zu können.
Vielflieger, you are judging, I am giving my opinion of how I feel when I hear that particular performance. I am German born and grew up with Wagner's music and "Heldengeschichten". I know what he sings about and what I should feel. Listen to Peter Hoffman, he did it right.
Muss leider sagen, Kaufmann ist kein "Schlechter", aber Florian Vogt trifft um ein Vielfaches mehr die Vorstellung des Meisters. So einen gequetschten und glanzlosen Lohengrin wie in diesem Video habe ich selten gehört. Und ich habe einige gehört...
@WhiteProfondo würde kaufmann wirklich knödeln dann könnte er die arie bzw. erst recht nicht die gesamte partie eines lohengrin nicht singen können.ich würde an ihrer stelle nochmal hinterfragen ob ihre diagnose wirklich stimmt.den stimmapparat kann man nämlich nicht austricksen..seit 10 jahren auf einem weltklasse niveau immer gleich gut zu singen bedarf einer gute technik,viel ausdauer,harte arbeit und nerven aus stahl.es bedarf also bisschen mehr als einem "vernünftigen vordersitz"
Vielflieger, my remark about money being the motivation actually referred to the production, not the singing. So, we're even. -:) Angela Gheorghiu once said that she would not perform in tasteless productions. She can afford to say no, so could many others with big names, while most of the chorus need the job and have no choice. Peace??
@MariadelMonaco ich würde - Entschuldigung - an dieser Stelle der Mund mal nicht zu voll nehmen. Denn erstaunlicherweise kommen solche Kommentare, die ins Persönliche abzielen - das passiert dann, wenn dem Schreiber sonst nichts Besseres mehr einfällt - meist ausgerechnet von Leuten, die schön anonym bleiben und selbst gar keine Videos oder auch Audios öffentlich präsentieren. Es möge sich jeder selbst sein Urteil über diesen Sachverhalt bilden.
...also dass er am Ende Retter statt Ritter singt, zeigt leider das gesamte Desaster seines Gesangs. Das I ist schwer, keine Frage, aber so schlecht hat man es schon lang nicht mehr gehört. Wer den silbrig heroischen Lohengrin von Gedda, oder den jugendlich herosichen Lohengrin von Konya gehört hat, wünscht sich angescihts des dumpfig kehligen Gegrummels eines Jonas Kauffmann eine Zeitmaschine.
@WhiteProfondo Rudolph Schock, different voice, different backround, sad history. Vordersitz hat Jonas Kaufmann alle mal. Ich habe ihn mehrfach live gesehen und er war immer am besten zu hören, sprachlich und gesanglich. Ich kann deine Meinung leider nicht teilen. Knödeln tut mehr ein Klaus F.Vogt, aber nicht Jonas Kaufmann. Warten wir mal ab was J.K. in 10 Jahren produziert, dann kann man beurteilen, ob das was er tut gesund war oder nicht :)
@WhiteProfondo Ausgerechnet Herrn Schock als Beispiel heranzuzeihen dessen Lohengrin zumindest in der NDR Aufnahme unter Schüchter doch arg kehlig und mit schwachem Legato daherkommt...
Ich frage mich, warum denn nur Melchior das richtig singt! Koennen die nicht oder will man nicht? Ist da jemand draussen irgendwo in dieser Welt, der mir die Frage beantworten kann? Das kann ich als Laie und alter Mann ja besser und ich habe dieses Stueck erst vor ein paar Tagen angefangen zu lernen!
O.k.- thanks for the posting of this really expected debut. Kaufmann sings in the great tradition of dark sounded tenors like James King. It´s very exciting. But i´ve to notice: i don´t like the experiences of transalpine german directions. The stage looks ridicilous and forced in the ambition. Very regrettable !
Auch wenn die Inszenierung starke Gefühle nicht zulässt, Nagano wenig Erleuchtendes zu allem beiträgt, sind es Kaufmann und Harteros, die mich mitreißen. Diese ewigen Vergleiche mit Sängern, die wir nur noch von Konserve kennen, nerven und sind nicht angebracht. Oder weiß jemand noch, wie peinlich Tebaldi als Butterfly auf der Bühne wirkte?
@hennenrenner wenn vom meister die vorstellung war einen kurzatmigen,nach jedem 2 wort atmenden und hohe laute töne stemmenden tenor zu hören gebe ich ihnen recht. aber ich denke nicht dass er nasalen tenor haben wollte und schon gar nicht schleim in der stimme vor müdigkeit.die partie ist nicht einfach und ich respektiere jeden sänger der lohengrin öffentlich singen kann aber kaufmann und vogt singt 2 unterschiedliche klassen für sich. geben sie lohengrin 2011 vogt ein und vergleichen sie
@MariadelMonaco You should just be quiet. Kaufmann as a singer has beaten out literally thousands of other tenors to get on that stage. Impresarios, conductors, and directors everywhere have sought him out. Are we to believe that they are all wrong and you are right? Who are you and just what do you think you know? Have you ever held auditions and heard tenors? Maybe you prefer some other Lohengrin - fine. But to call him fake is ludicrous.
To be honest, it's not a difficult piece to sing. Name me one famous tenor who sang it badly... He sings it too "carefully", it's not heroic at all this way, but I like the musicality he brings. Pity he never sang Lohengrin it in a serious stage production that would stand the test of time...
From a pure technical point of view, Kaufman was just about flawless, and that sitting down! (Who was that idiot director, anyway?) Peter Hoffman was not nearly as polished in anything he did as is Kaufman. And I heard a great deal of Hoffman. His voice always sounded strained and rough compared to what I heard with Kaufman. Admittedly, it is hard to compare the recorded voice with the voice in the room. I always reserve ultimate judgement for the opera house.
"less upsetting than some other productions over here, it was just boring but easy to ignore." With the amount of money they pay these idiotic Regisseure I would hope they could come up with better than "boring but easy to ignore". What a travesty. But Kaufman was blendend
Opera alas is dead and we are left with a lot of silliness. Kaufmann is a fabulous singer vastly superior to the disastrous Florian Vogt on Kent's other Lohengrin. Alas the idiot stage director thinks it's sophisticated to stage it in rehersal clothes. But even that's Ok. We will just have to watch the highlights on TH-cam instead of buying the DVD. But here on TH-cam we must endure the self appointed vocal experts. Many of these are underemployed voice teachers looking to get work. Bah!
I feel like crying watching this video. I can't understand why the singers would lend themselves to such an ugly production, but I guess money is the motivation behind that. Aesthetically ugly, no wonder Kaufman's voice sounds lame, he doesn't represent the Lohengrin as he was intended to look and act. Shame, shame, shame. Thanks for posting it anyway.
Kaufmann is of course superb, but the staging is just awful!!!!! It's so.. UGLY! compared to the music. I don't know, all these stage directors lately have some sort of issues. How can you possibly listen to Wagner and have to concurrently look at something that is so completely dissonant with the beauty of the music, just so completely tasteless!
Ein Tenor, der mit voller Resonanzausnutzung singt, damit einen runden, warmen, hell-dunklen und weichen, aber auch strahlenden Klang in jeder Lage mühelos erreicht. Genau so klingt für mich ein gut ausgebildeter Sänger! Bravo!
I have just seen this opera on 3Sat TV and I agree fully with you. I've got goosebumps and tears in my eyes as well when he sung the Gralserzählung. For this reason I have looked on TH-cam to hear him again. It's a wonderful, emotional performance from a brillant singer.
The best Lohengrin, great Jonas and Anja ♥
Anyone who knows anything about singing will admit this is the finest Helden Tenor singing the world has heard in many, many years. The production is irrelevant, anything else going on in this production is irrelevant. Jonas Kaufman is the real deal. His voice is one in a million.
merv eilleux Jonas : après "Adriana Lecouvreur" cet hiver à Londres, et Siegmund de la Walkyrie au Met, toutes ses prises de rôle sont fascinantes de profondeur et d'intensité. Merci .
Mark my words friends. I have heard them all and Kaufmann will take his place in history as one of the great German tenors...
Eine fesselnde Stimme! Wunderbar!
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Oh my God ! what a voice ! What an handsome man !!
Fantástico como sempre.... Amazing as usual!
Lovely singing.TY l for posting.
Thank you for posting this live take which sounds great not to forget your steady hand with the video camera.
JK commanded this role from beginning to end which we all observed from the first stage rehearsal onwards. Even when he fell ill with Schüttelfrost and a fever & had to stop after Act 2 in the last performance, he was excellent.
It was wonderful to hear and see that the audience was totally spell bound by the moment.
Thank you for the clip
Kaufmanns sottovoce klingt so schön, das mein Herz weh tut.
Don't forget to hear Anja Harteros,she will be very soon one of the best.
Jonas is pure emotion, and all these light tenors criticizing him should learn how to sing hearing what Jonas does with his voice, well controlled
A magnificent musicianship
Non seulement Jonas est un grand acteur mais il est un chanteur sublime et il incarne merveilleusement Lohengrin !
Kaufmann hangja csodálatos, varázslatos!🎶🌹👏
the best version ever
Thanks so much for upload! Kaufmann sang a most poetic In fernen Land. I attended the second performance in the house and he was equally wonderful. It would be great if you could post some more...much appreciated!
a very handsome Lohengrin with a voice to kill for:-)
All those tiny moments you cite there sound perfectly fine to me.
Lovely singing TY l for posting.
everyone's entitled to his/her opinion. I actually love his voice. And think he's a perfect fit.
@Ricocarrino1 You are nuts, his voice type comes along once a generation.. Its is beautiful!
Come on, people, don't blame the singer if the staging sucks. He does his part excellently. He deserves better, both staging and critics. He IS Lohengrin; the regie is but something else... This wonderful opera deserves better respect from regisseurs
Well I can say, he's a good singer any way, may he does not have the power from corelli's voice or anyother's skills. That's because HE IS HIM!!.
A good and technic lyric tenor with dark timbre.
Very well Master Jonas!
einfach toll!! wunderbare stimme!!
That was the most beautiful performance I've ever heard of this and I've heard it many times. I performed in Lohengrin at the SF Opera and we had several Lohengrins and none of them memorable or remarkable. This was both. The production looks ridiculous, though. Why must directors make it so hard for us to connect with these characters and the story?
Could listen forever...
The best Lohengrin ever 🙏
so singt man das... wie eine märchenerzählung...
Perfidiame - I sang in the Bayreuther Festpielchor for years and had better than a front row seat there! Neither Peter Hoffman NOR Siegfried Jerusalem could carry the shoes of Kaufman. What a genius!
You are obviously impressed with the Italian voices, and I must admit, I like them too.. but this guys voice is really something special.. Corelli and De Monaco sang flat.... and would never dream of singing this with as much sensitivity as he does, I loved this an I don't even like Wagner much.
To each his own, I feel that "Im fernen Land" should not be sung like a lament, but a proud statement. He sang it like he was apologizing for being the son of Parcival.
Super genial
Grandios.....
das hätte ich auch gerne von Fritz Wunderlich gehört
I've heard both Svanholm and Volker, and also Jess Thomas. I still think Kaufmann is a great Lohengrin.
wonderfull
It sounds to me as if Kaufmann's interpretation is a cry for what might have been and is forever lost. How sad for Lohengrin.
goosebumps!!!!!
...und ich hoffe, es werden ihm noch viele Sänger folgen und diese Singart anwenden.
That design... is an interesting choice.
Perfidiame, Jonas Kaufmann characterizes "In fernem Land" please note! not "Im fernen Land" in the most perfect manner as it is supposed to be. "In fernem Land" contains many sorts of emotions, not only the one you perceive. Jonas Kaufmann projects all of them in an impressive manner!
Perfidiame, My remark about your judgment referred to your comment "money being the motivation for singers to participate in such production", it is just placed in the wrong place, I dont know why. Regarding Peter Hoffmans Lohengrin I agree with you, I also like it. I find both excellent characterizations showing two different ways of doing it.
I am glad for you to have had that experience, but I don't know if you saw Peter Hoffman's performance in San Francisco. I guess it comes down to the question of personal taste. Great singers they all are (or were). I like Jonas Kaufmann very much.
Incredible, sensitive, moving performance. Especially considering the fact that Kaufmann had to sit down for 99% of the aria. This unquestionably reduces a singer's power and expressiveness, so it is a miracle and a testament to his skill that he sounded as good as he did. Idiotic production and staging, would have been far, far better in the traditional "knight in shining armor" style. Sorry to those who are looking for innovation and new approaches. Those can indeed be superb...when they do not detract from the original operatic story, and do not hobble the singers with ridiculous stage directions, such as Lohengrin sitting during this magnificent, touching, and heroic aria.
Jonas Kaufmann cariñito, mi, vida, mi amor, nuestro, juramento, en Fiumiccino, eres, el, precioso cisne blanco, del caballero cisne, mi Maravillosa, sueño, hecho realidad. Adoro, tu capacidad de, emocionarte, en público.!!!
we're lucky to have him, musician that he is
I haven't seen the production apart from clips but it seems to me that staging opera the same way over and over again(especially Lohengrin - "fur deutsches land das deutsches schwert" and all the swords and shields) is in fact the easiest way to kill it completely
I have the utmost respect for H. Kaufmann. I find his singing to be very, very good. I think he may over-darken a bit, but that is a taste issue and I don't believe it will hurt his singing in any way. I woud have to say though, that I hope that he limits his foray into the Wagner world to Lohengrin and Stolzing, because I do not find his voice to have enough "metal" to sing the less-lyric Heldentenor roles.
my word, beautiful singing. i've heard Kaufmann in the more classical romantic roles - Rodolfo, Werther, Alfredo,etc., but this seems to fit him like a glove. And i don't think its just because he IS german....he seems to sing this role completely openly and honestly, he's not playing a part. Loved it.
Shame the rest of it looks like an AA meeting run by zombies. :) Can't have everything I guess.
Wagner himself thought of his Lohengrin as a romantic opera,The hero as the defender of the noble and just ! This production is a farce, I personally like Kaufmann's concept of singing this in a very lyrical approach. - Mr, Jones on the other side should go home and read some book, for instance "Th Tristan Chord" nt Bryan Magee.
@unethicaldenier Rudolf Schock ist auch mein Nummer 1 wenn es um die Rolle des Lohengrin geht, aber ich muss auch die anderen recht geben: man kann Schocks Stimme unmöglich mit der Stimme Jonas Kaufmanns vergleichen. Auch sein Lohengrin gefällt mir außerordentlich. Und genauso René Kollo und Peter Hoffmann, sowie auch Klaus Florian Vogt, ein großer Star am Wagner Firmament heutzutage! Gerade die Verschiedenheit dieser Stimmen ist so wunderbar und genießenswert.
Beautiful voice. Beyond terrible staging. This is a performance that belongs on a CD not a DVD.
Wow, I think Kaufman has finally found his forte as a tenor. I don`t particulary like himin Mozart, Verdi nad Bizet operas. But this is truly fantastic.
@dg6da I sang Telramud with both Gedda and Konya and they pale in the sight of the magnificent voice of Jonas.
wow, this might be his best rendition ever! But the whole staging is just abysmal, the absolute bottom! A shame
Yes - totally agree.
Is it a tribute to working class lovers of Wagner? I find them everywhere!
I think you are a bit wrong. JK had slight problems in act 1 and 2, but was really great in act 3. This Gralserzählung was probably the best he ever sang. But of course some people don't understand his very special way of interpretation and singing exactly the loudness the composer asked for.
I think the production is less upsetting than some other productions over here, it was just boring but easy to ignore.
@MariadelMonaco
Es gibt sehr viele Methoden. Eine Zahl kann ich nicht nennen. Es gibt aber nur wenige Methoden, die zum konkurrenzfähigen Singen führen.
Über Voce System Singing kann man auf den entsprechenden Seiten alles nachlesen und sich informieren. Die Methode basiert auf der Singart der führenden Sänger. Dazu gehören auch ihre genannten und noch viele weitere Sänger, wie auch z. B. Anna Netrebko.
@WhiteProfondo I sang often with Schock and taught Kaufmann. Schock had a small voice in comparison to Kaufmann. Kaufmann does not knödel but sings with open throat sbadigliare.
He sings this much better on studio record ; was he particularly sick that night ?
@WhiteProfondo Du scheinst gerne deinen Senf zu jedem Video abzugeben. Ich glaub ich bin nicht der erste dem des auffällt dass du zu fast jedem Video von irgendjemandem irgendeinen schlechten Kommentar abgibst White Profondo.
Du solltest mehr genießen oder andere genießen lassen.
Anstatt nur Voce System Singing und die Singart Kaufmanns zu verdammen, würde mich sehr interessieren, welche Methode Sie bevorzugen? Wo kann man Videos und/oder Audios von Ihnen anhören? Das interessiert mich, um mir ein besseres Bild von Ihren Ansichten machen zu können.
Vielflieger, you are judging, I am giving my opinion of how I feel when I hear that particular performance. I am German born and grew up with Wagner's music and "Heldengeschichten". I know what he sings about and what I should feel. Listen to Peter Hoffman, he did it right.
Muss leider sagen, Kaufmann ist kein "Schlechter", aber Florian Vogt trifft um ein Vielfaches mehr die Vorstellung des Meisters. So einen gequetschten und glanzlosen Lohengrin wie in diesem Video habe ich selten gehört. Und ich habe einige gehört...
yes, but he is a God.
Rivetting. As always.
@WhiteProfondo würde kaufmann wirklich knödeln dann könnte er die arie bzw. erst recht nicht die gesamte partie eines lohengrin nicht singen können.ich würde an ihrer stelle nochmal hinterfragen ob ihre diagnose wirklich stimmt.den stimmapparat kann man nämlich nicht austricksen..seit 10 jahren auf einem weltklasse niveau immer gleich gut zu singen bedarf einer gute technik,viel ausdauer,harte arbeit und nerven aus stahl.es bedarf also bisschen mehr als einem "vernünftigen vordersitz"
@MariadelMonaco
Who are you to criticize anyone's singing (especially one of his caliber)?
You have heard Völker as Lohengrin? How old are you? 90?
@GERMANYFrankie
So, do it! Or may be as Siegmund at Met Opera! What does hinder you to do so?
And let's not forget Helge.
Vielflieger, my remark about money being the motivation actually referred to the production, not the singing. So, we're even. -:) Angela Gheorghiu once said that she would not perform in tasteless productions. She can afford to say no, so could many others with big names, while most of the chorus need the job and have no choice. Peace??
@MariadelMonaco
ich würde - Entschuldigung - an dieser Stelle der Mund mal nicht zu voll nehmen. Denn erstaunlicherweise kommen solche Kommentare, die ins Persönliche abzielen - das passiert dann, wenn dem Schreiber sonst nichts Besseres mehr einfällt - meist ausgerechnet von Leuten, die schön anonym bleiben und selbst gar keine Videos oder auch Audios öffentlich präsentieren.
Es möge sich jeder selbst sein Urteil über diesen Sachverhalt bilden.
...also dass er am Ende Retter statt Ritter singt, zeigt leider das gesamte Desaster seines Gesangs. Das I ist schwer, keine Frage, aber so schlecht hat man es schon lang nicht mehr gehört. Wer den silbrig heroischen Lohengrin von Gedda, oder den jugendlich herosichen Lohengrin von Konya gehört hat, wünscht sich angescihts des dumpfig kehligen Gegrummels eines Jonas Kauffmann eine Zeitmaschine.
@temperanceluv81
who gives a damn about his teeth. that voice is like WOW.
@WhiteProfondo
Rudolph Schock, different voice, different backround, sad history. Vordersitz hat Jonas Kaufmann alle mal. Ich habe ihn mehrfach live gesehen und er war immer am besten zu hören, sprachlich und gesanglich. Ich kann deine Meinung leider nicht teilen. Knödeln tut mehr ein Klaus F.Vogt, aber nicht Jonas Kaufmann. Warten wir mal ab was J.K. in 10 Jahren produziert, dann kann man beurteilen, ob das was er tut gesund war oder nicht :)
@WhiteProfondo
Ausgerechnet Herrn Schock als Beispiel heranzuzeihen dessen Lohengrin zumindest in der NDR Aufnahme unter Schüchter doch arg kehlig und mit schwachem Legato daherkommt...
Ich frage mich, warum denn nur Melchior das richtig singt! Koennen die nicht oder will man nicht?
Ist da jemand draussen irgendwo in dieser Welt, der mir die Frage beantworten kann?
Das kann ich als Laie und alter Mann ja besser und ich habe dieses Stueck erst vor ein paar Tagen angefangen zu lernen!
Perfidiame, please do not judge without knowing what you are talking about.
Kaufmann und Schock zu vergleichen hat was vom Vergleich von Äpfeln mit Birnen..
@MRhodess I would sing Kaufmann under the table, and this as an amateur!
O.k.- thanks for the posting of this really expected debut. Kaufmann sings in the great tradition of dark sounded tenors like James King. It´s very exciting. But i´ve to notice: i don´t like the experiences of transalpine german directions. The stage looks ridicilous and forced in the ambition. Very regrettable !
Auch wenn die Inszenierung starke Gefühle nicht zulässt, Nagano wenig Erleuchtendes zu allem beiträgt, sind es Kaufmann und Harteros, die mich mitreißen. Diese ewigen Vergleiche mit Sängern, die wir nur noch von Konserve kennen, nerven und sind nicht angebracht. Oder weiß jemand noch, wie peinlich Tebaldi als Butterfly auf der Bühne wirkte?
@GERMANYFrankie
So, do it! Or may be as Siegmund at Met Opera!
@hennenrenner wenn vom meister die vorstellung war einen kurzatmigen,nach jedem 2 wort atmenden und hohe laute töne stemmenden tenor zu hören gebe ich ihnen recht. aber ich denke nicht dass er nasalen tenor haben wollte und schon gar nicht schleim in der stimme vor müdigkeit.die partie ist nicht einfach und ich respektiere jeden sänger der lohengrin öffentlich singen kann aber kaufmann und vogt singt 2 unterschiedliche klassen für sich. geben sie lohengrin 2011 vogt ein und vergleichen sie
@MariadelMonaco
You should just be quiet. Kaufmann as a singer has beaten out literally thousands of other tenors to get on that stage. Impresarios, conductors, and directors everywhere have sought him out. Are we to believe that they are all wrong and you are right? Who are you and just what do you think you know? Have you ever held auditions and heard tenors? Maybe you prefer some other Lohengrin - fine. But to call him fake is ludicrous.
To be honest, it's not a difficult piece to sing. Name me one famous tenor who sang it badly... He sings it too "carefully", it's not heroic at all this way, but I like the musicality he brings. Pity he never sang Lohengrin it in a serious stage production that would stand the test of time...
From a pure technical point of view, Kaufman was just about flawless, and that sitting down! (Who was that idiot director, anyway?) Peter Hoffman was not nearly as polished in anything he did as is Kaufman. And I heard a great deal of Hoffman. His voice always sounded strained and rough compared to what I heard with Kaufman. Admittedly, it is hard to compare the recorded voice with the voice in the room. I always reserve ultimate judgement for the opera house.
"less upsetting than some other productions over here, it was just boring but easy to ignore." With the amount of money they pay these idiotic Regisseure I would hope they could come up with better than "boring but easy to ignore". What a travesty. But Kaufman was blendend
Wie kann man das sagen? Haben Sie Ahnung von Stimmen oder überhaupt vom Singen?
Schöner kann man das fast nicht singen!
Adembenemend
Opera alas is dead and we are left with a lot of silliness. Kaufmann is a fabulous singer vastly superior to the disastrous Florian Vogt on Kent's other Lohengrin. Alas the idiot stage director thinks it's sophisticated to stage it in rehersal clothes. But even that's Ok. We will just have to watch the highlights on TH-cam instead of buying the DVD. But here on TH-cam we must endure the self appointed vocal experts. Many of these are underemployed voice teachers looking to get work. Bah!
@TheWandererF
schwierig zu singen!! gelungen!!!!
Does he think he's singing Schubert? (Glaubt er dass er Schubert singt?).
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yawlltube , glauben Sie, dass Sie von Schubert Ahnung haben? Ich glaube Sie haben keinen blassen Schimmer, weder von Stimmen noch von Interpretation .
Es gibt nur 2 Wege Wagner zu spielen , einen guten und schlechten Weg. Dies ist ein besonders schlechter weg. Schade fuer die Saenger ,
I feel like crying watching this video. I can't understand why the singers would lend themselves to such an ugly production, but I guess money is the motivation behind that. Aesthetically ugly, no wonder Kaufman's voice sounds lame, he doesn't represent the Lohengrin as he was intended to look and act. Shame, shame, shame. Thanks for posting it anyway.
Kaufmann ist leider scheußlich...
Kaufmann is of course superb, but the staging is just awful!!!!! It's so.. UGLY! compared to the music. I don't know, all these stage directors lately have some sort of issues. How can you possibly listen to Wagner and have to concurrently look at something that is so completely dissonant with the beauty of the music, just so completely tasteless!
Es gibt nur 2 Wege Wagner zu spielen , einen guten und schlechten Weg. Dies ist ein besonders schlechter weg. Schade fuer die Saenger ,