Thanks for continuing to share your valuable experience with us. As my collection of fruit trees grows, you have been a great source of good information. Hope you've had a great season, and good luck this winter!
Hi Enlightenment Garden! Good luck with your mango, I think you will succeed; you clearly see that it's not easy here in the valley. I gave up on mango after 4 years of trying and killing 8 trees (including a $350 Coconut Cream!). I finally gave up after Jay came out and correctly diagnosed the fungal issues; I decided it just wasn't worth it (for me). I'm also aware of a couple of very high-profile, well-known gardens here in the valley who have given up on mango. But, that said, it IS being done successfully by some...just look at what Jay has done! I know he has lost many trees to get to where he is, but that just seems to be part of the deal to grow mango in AZ 9b!
This was wonderful! I was planning on bamboo by our fence.line for privacy behind pool and I have huge pots back in that area where mangoes would work nicely ..... thank you so much! Have seen morangas advertised, may pick up a couple.....we have a 14,000 sq ft lot with nothing but a pool...
You’re really on to it….! Tiger elemental sulfur….a great tip for alkaline water and soils….leaf litter and organic waste really helps cool the surface drip line.
I have too killed a lot of mangoes and I found the basic ones that you get from Lowe's works the best. I have 3 of them and one has survived 2 years and the other two 1 year. I like them best is that they are small(1-2 feet tall) so I can tip them so that their leaves form very low to give their trunk more shade. I though wrap them during winter because they are so small, it is easy to do so.
Thank you for making this video. I am in 9b down in Lakeland FL and just planted some mango’s this past spring so I’m curious how they do their first winter in ground. I also use liquid fertilizer but I do half strength weekly and have been getting lots of growth this year with all of them doubling in size. That may be wrong so I’ll see long term but so far it’s worked great.
You are welcome! Feeding the soil is important but I'm no longer a purist and see that using synthetic fertilizers as an adjunct does not destroy soil life as long as it's not overapplied. Half-strength as you are doing helps ensure that. The addition of mulch around the tree is a good way to bring in bugs and beneficial micro-organisms.
Wonderful... I am wondering if my cherimoya is having pH issues. It is in a pot so will give it some sulfur and liquid fish emulsion feed. My mangos are good. New FL grafts are shooting.
Thanks for sharing! I am curious, have you had any fungal disease problems? I am in SoCal and I planted several grafted seedling mango trees this spring so I am glad to hear yours made it through winter ok. I assume you got some wind also and they look good.
Thanks! No fungal issues on the NDM but I had a Sunrise mango for about 3 years (until Jan 2019 killed it) that did have issues with rust/black spot in Spring following wet Winters. I would treat with Garden Safe fungicide and that would knock it out. And yes we got plenty of wind this year despite very little rain. I think the bamboo helped as a wind break. The dwarf stature of the NDM also helps prevent broken limbs from heavy winds.
Thanks a lot. Can you give the items you have used for reducing that Ph. Also any nutritional advice. I’m about to plant 3G from the same nursery and have an idea to protect this winter… any advice on additional care initially which can help it ?
You are welcome. If you search under my past videos for "high ph," you will find a video dedicated to amendments for tropical plants. I link all of the amendments I use there. I'd suggest not planting your mango tree in the ground until spring. Keep it safe from frost by bringing it inside your garage on nights when we get down to the mid-30s. If you really want to plant it now then please see my frost protection video where I show the frame I built for my plumeria and discuss supplemental heat.
Great video, you mentioned using the tiger surfer. What was the dose and approach you took for your yard? How often do you plan on dosing it? You also mentioned using a tomato fertilizer , what type? and are you also using that for your Figs? I find your videos very informative as I live about 20 miles southeast of Tucson and just planted about 50 trees this year with a large variety of figs... trying to make sure I set them up for success. Thanks
Thanks! I purchased the sulfur, Tiger 90CR online-- www.tigersul.com/sulphur-bentonite/product/tiger-90cr-sulphur/. I add a few tablespoons on any new plantings. Also, I pour the sulfur in a seed spreader and broadcast the bag --a 50 lb bag covers about 10,000 sq ft. I plan to do this each year in Spring and soil test and increase if needed. The water soluble tomato food I used was the standard miracle grow stuff. I don't swear by that brand, it's just what I had. Water soluble is one of the best ways you can feed your plants but takes time and you need to do it often so I only do it for plants I want to give a boost to like my tropicals. I use a slow release fertilizer on 90% of the trees because I just don't have time for anything else. If you have the time, I recommend always feeding a liquid food. You'll get amazing growth and fruit.
Have you considered growing Keitt mango? They are grown as commercial mangoes in southern California and are apparently better cold tolerant. I am in northern California and we don't have enough heat in our area for mangoes.
Thanks I have not tried Keitt but sounds promising. If nothing else I can container grow some condo mangoes but am hopeful this micro-climate will pay off. Thanks again!
Hi! I personally don't enjoy avocados so don't have an interest in growing them. They are similar to loquat in micro climate needs and require afternoon shade here when young
I have employed shade cloth in the past for young trees but have moved to using the natural canopy of over story plants like bamboo. That way the foliage is also protected from frost in winter
TY! 🙏
Thanks for continuing to share your valuable experience with us. As my collection of fruit trees grows, you have been a great source of good information. Hope you've had a great season, and good luck this winter!
I'm also in Phoenix, and killed two mango trees, so far. You give me hope to try again!
Hi Enlightenment Garden! Good luck with your mango, I think you will succeed; you clearly see that it's not easy here in the valley. I gave up on mango after 4 years of trying and killing 8 trees (including a $350 Coconut Cream!). I finally gave up after Jay came out and correctly diagnosed the fungal issues; I decided it just wasn't worth it (for me). I'm also aware of a couple of very high-profile, well-known gardens here in the valley who have given up on mango. But, that said, it IS being done successfully by some...just look at what Jay has done! I know he has lost many trees to get to where he is, but that just seems to be part of the deal to grow mango in AZ 9b!
Great video's like always. Would love to see an update on your plumerias
Living ground cover is what helps protect! 🙌🌱🥭🌱
This was wonderful! I was planning on bamboo by our fence.line for privacy behind pool and I have huge pots back in that area where mangoes would work nicely ..... thank you so much! Have seen morangas advertised, may pick up a couple.....we have a 14,000 sq ft lot with nothing but a pool...
You’re really on to it….!
Tiger elemental sulfur….a great tip for alkaline water and soils….leaf litter and organic waste really helps cool the surface drip line.
I have too killed a lot of mangoes and I found the basic ones that you get from Lowe's works the best. I have 3 of them and one has survived 2 years and the other two 1 year. I like them best is that they are small(1-2 feet tall) so I can tip them so that their leaves form very low to give their trunk more shade. I though wrap them during winter because they are so small, it is easy to do so.
Thank you for making this video. I am in 9b down in Lakeland FL and just planted some mango’s this past spring so I’m curious how they do their first winter in ground. I also use liquid fertilizer but I do half strength weekly and have been getting lots of growth this year with all of them doubling in size. That may be wrong so I’ll see long term but so far it’s worked great.
You are welcome! Feeding the soil is important but I'm no longer a purist and see that using synthetic fertilizers as an adjunct does not destroy soil life as long as it's not overapplied. Half-strength as you are doing helps ensure that. The addition of mulch around the tree is a good way to bring in bugs and beneficial micro-organisms.
Amazing !
Wonderful... I am wondering if my cherimoya is having pH issues. It is in a pot so will give it some sulfur and liquid fish emulsion feed. My mangos are good. New FL grafts are shooting.
Thanks for sharing! I am curious, have you had any fungal disease problems? I am in SoCal and I planted several grafted seedling mango trees this spring so I am glad to hear yours made it through winter ok. I assume you got some wind also and they look good.
Thanks! No fungal issues on the NDM but I had a Sunrise mango for about 3 years (until Jan 2019 killed it) that did have issues with rust/black spot in Spring following wet Winters. I would treat with Garden Safe fungicide and that would knock it out. And yes we got plenty of wind this year despite very little rain. I think the bamboo helped as a wind break. The dwarf stature of the NDM also helps prevent broken limbs from heavy winds.
Thanks a lot. Can you give the items you have used for reducing that Ph. Also any nutritional advice. I’m about to plant 3G from the same nursery and have an idea to protect this winter… any advice on additional care initially which can help it ?
You are welcome. If you search under my past videos for "high ph," you will find a video dedicated to amendments for tropical plants. I link all of the amendments I use there. I'd suggest not planting your mango tree in the ground until spring. Keep it safe from frost by bringing it inside your garage on nights when we get down to the mid-30s. If you really want to plant it now then please see my frost protection video where I show the frame I built for my plumeria and discuss supplemental heat.
@@EnlightenmentGarden thx again
Great video, you mentioned using the tiger surfer. What was the dose and approach you took for your yard? How often do you plan on dosing it? You also mentioned using a tomato fertilizer , what type? and are you also using that for your Figs? I find your videos very informative as I live about 20 miles southeast of Tucson and just planted about 50 trees this year with a large variety of figs... trying to make sure I set them up for success. Thanks
Thanks! I purchased the sulfur, Tiger 90CR online-- www.tigersul.com/sulphur-bentonite/product/tiger-90cr-sulphur/. I add a few tablespoons on any new plantings. Also, I pour the sulfur in a seed spreader and broadcast the bag --a 50 lb bag covers about 10,000 sq ft. I plan to do this each year in Spring and soil test and increase if needed. The water soluble tomato food I used was the standard miracle grow stuff. I don't swear by that brand, it's just what I had. Water soluble is one of the best ways you can feed your plants but takes time and you need to do it often so I only do it for plants I want to give a boost to like my tropicals. I use a slow release fertilizer on 90% of the trees because I just don't have time for anything else. If you have the time, I recommend always feeding a liquid food. You'll get amazing growth and fruit.
Pertinent for me as I'm attempting mangos in 9A North California. That mango has maybe doubled in height but more like quadrupled in volume.
Have you considered growing Keitt mango? They are grown as commercial mangoes in southern California and are apparently better cold tolerant. I am in northern California and we don't have enough heat in our area for mangoes.
Thanks I have not tried Keitt but sounds promising. If nothing else I can container grow some condo mangoes but am hopeful this micro-climate will pay off. Thanks again!
Hello, have you considered to grow Avocado ?
Hi! I personally don't enjoy avocados so don't have an interest in growing them. They are similar to loquat in micro climate needs and require afternoon shade here when young
What about a shade cloth?
It helps against frost as well as overhead radiation…..
I have employed shade cloth in the past for young trees but have moved to using the natural canopy of over story plants like bamboo. That way the foliage is also protected from frost in winter